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Dushnisky and Garofalo on gold mining’s future INTERVIEW
| Barrick, Goldcorp bosses see value in fiscal discipline, partnerships, technology
BY JOHN CUMMING
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| Cobalt demand has a 7% annual growth rate
jcumming@northernminer.com
At the Canadian Mining Symposium hosted by The Northern Miner at Canada House in London in May, session moderator Greg Huffman, managing director and global head of mining sales at Canaccord Genuity, sat down with Barrick Gold (TSX: ABX; NYSE: ABX) president Kelvin Dushnisky and Goldcorp (TSX: G; NYSE: GG) president and CEO David Garofalo for an in-depth conversation on the strategies they use to guide both companies, plus a look at what the future holds for gold mining globally. The following is an edited transcript of the exchange. Greg Huffman for The Northern Miner: Looking at some of Goldcorp’s latest acquisitions — such as Gold Eagle, Virginia, Probe and Kaminak — is there now a premium on assets in safer jurisdictions, given the current political turmoil worldwide? David Garofalo: It’s always been fundamental to Goldcorp’s strategy to stay in low political-risk jurisdictions, generally investment-grade countries, with the exception of tak-
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Barrick Gold president Kelvin Dushnisky (left) and Goldcorp president and CEO David Garofalo speaking at the Canadian Mining Symposium at Canada House in London, U.K., in May 2017. PHOTO BY MARTINA LANG
ing a bit more risk in investing in Argentina before the Macri regime. But that was a generational asset in Cerro Negro, and it’s been born out in the changing regime there and the Macri economic model. Fundamental to our story is that we’re focused on the Americas and our own time zones. It makes it an eminently more manageable company. In my 27-year career I’ve worked with mining companies that are spread out across multiple jurisdictions on multiple continents, and this introduces an element of risk and complexity to managing assets that makes it hard to run the company, and requires a risk premium associated with operating across too many jurisdictions. One of the reasons Goldcorp historically has gotten a good multiple is because of its stringent geographical and geological focus. TNM: Barrick has operations in many countries. How have you decentralized the company to deal with the increased jurisdictions and associated risks? Kelvin Dushnisky: In 2016, 70% of our production was from our five core mines in the Americas: Gold-
strike, Cortez, Pueblo Viejo — where we’re partnered with Goldcorp — Lagunas Norte and Veladero. That represents 50% of our reserves. Outside of this, in some of the other jurisdictions we’re operating, we factor in political, technical and financial risk. Part of what we try to do in terms of managing risk is develop various layers, starting with local procurement and hiring practices, understanding local politics and influences on policy — be it local, provincial or state, or federal — and ensuring that we have strong relationships in that respect. We also look to jurisdictions where investment treaties could exist, ranging from Canada, which uses foreign investor protection agreements or even better, where we have free trade agreements with strong investor protection chapters. Those help us. We layer in various strategies to manage risk, and it has worked out well. TNM: What do Canadians bring to the table that may separate us a little from some of the other mining nations? DG: We have a long mining history, and more importantly we have the
mining infrastructure that comes with that. And I mean “people infrastructure” — not just physical infrastructure — that we’re able to export, whether it’s banking, legal or financial expertise that we’ve developed over more than a century of mining in Canada. Accessing risk capital to work in the sector, predominantly within our own country, but also we’ve been exporting this over the last 30 years or so. When Latin America opened up as an investment, we were one of the first countries to rush in and develop, for example, the Chilean copper sector. This brought a whole new level of expertise to Canada that is the envy of the industry. KD: I’d agree. The infrastructure exists and the services exist. There is also the stock exchange and the predominance of publicly listed companies that trade on the Toronto Stock Exchange. And it’s more than that. It’s cultural — the familiarity with the space. Canada was mining before Canada was a country. Canada and mining, it’s a little bit like Italy and sports cars and the fashion industry. You don’t
obalt prices have nearly doubled in the first quarter of the year, with demand for its use in rechargeable batteries and the electric-vehicle market, in particular, expected to take off. The Northern Miner spoke about the dynamics of the cobalt market with Edward Spencer, a senior consultant and head cobalt market analyst at the CRU Group in London. Spencer joined CRU in 2015 as a senior consultant to CRU’s nickel, stainless steel and special alloys group, and has worked on outlooks for molybdenum, nickel and ferrochrome. He has a PhD in See COBALT / 6 PM40069240
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