Flyer & Salvage Issue 177

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ME123 Garford with Guy Ellis, Mark Hall, Jim Hall and Bob Weir at Randwick Fire Brigade’s Centenary Page Number 1


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From the Editor

July 2008

Aaron Bischoff

Welcome to issue 177 of the Flyer & Salvage. Thank you again to those who have called to say they are enjoying Flyer & Salvage. I had always looked forward to each copy that Brett put together and I am glad that I have been able to continue on from Brett and not disappoint. In the last copy, there was an old photo that my grandfather had of the old Mines Rescue Station appliance. I had thought the old vehicle might have been an International but was never sure. Several people called to inform me that the vehicle was a Maple Leaf. Thanks to those who called. Having returned to my crew after “running the show” at work, I had planned to attend Randwick’s Centenary with the crew and appliance from work. But as we signed on, we were sent out to Blacktown for a job and missed the event. Speaking to Guy, the day went along really well. Hopefully I’ll make an outing one day! As always, a big thank you to everyone who sent in stories and photos. It makes it so much easier putting it all in place and this of course makes for a more interesting read. As always, submissions of stories and photos are always appreciated. And of course, if you want something added to the Flyer and Salvage as a regular article, just let me know.

Enjoy the read.

HFEA General Meeting The next meeting of the Historic Fire Engine Association will be held on the 10th August 2008 at Huntingwood Fire Station. Remember that each meeting now incorporates a run. So come along with your fire engine.

A friendly reminder! A number of our members have yet to pay their 2008 Membership Fees. If you happen to be one of those members, please take this as a final reminder to pay. If payment is not received within the next month, your membership will lapse. If you have paid and have not yet received a receipt please advise the Secretary ASAP.

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HFEA attends Randwick Fire Brigade Centenary On Saturday 14th June 2008, Randwick Fire Brigade celebrated their centenary. The HFEA attended with three appliances and the Museum Of Fire attended with the Mack Ladders. In addition to the display of fire appliances, both past and present, there were displays of photos and items of interest show casing the 100 years of service that the brigade has given the community. In particular, there was a photo of the Randwick crew with the station’s Garford taken in 1948. Having a Garford on display for the day, it was too good an opportunity to miss to recreate that photo. Dressed in period turn out gear, Guy Ellis, Bob Weir, Mark and Jim Hall were able to take us back the 60 years. On display for the day were: Guy Ellis’s 1924 Garford Jim & Mark Hall’s 1947 Dennis Light 4 Museum of Fire’s 1942 Mack Ladders driven by Mark White Guy Ellis’s 1984 International 'White Knight" driven by Brett Williams

Randwick fire fighters with the 1924 Garford

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On display for the centenary: 1924 Garford, 1947 Dennis Light 4, 1942 Mack Ladders and the 1984 International Centenary pumper

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Photo of the 1948 Randwick crew with their Garford Appliance

HFEA members recreate the 1948 photo Page Number 5


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Historic fire appliances on parade as part of the Randwick Fire Brigade Centenary Celebrations

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OUT & ABOUT If you have been out and about with your fire appliance, how about sharing your adventure with other HFEA members. So if you have a story or some photos of a recent run or visit, just send an email to aaron.bischoff@bigpond.com and I’ll include it in the next issue of Flyer & Salvage.

LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION Not to be content with his bit part in Fire 000, our Guy Ellis and his Iveco Ladders will soon be seen in the up coming movie “Accidents Happen”. Of course it should be noted that it is an American film and not one of those quality productions out of Pinewood studies featuring Dennis fire appliances. None the less, Guy has reported back that all went well, with the production crew being very impressed, with the truck that is! Who knows he may end up being the next Hugh Jackman.

A snippet from the movie with Guy’s Iveco Ladders in the background

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A close up of “Fairfield City’s Ladder 22”…. A few decals and some imagination quickly transformed the old Iveco into an American appliance.

OPEN DAY 472 STATION TURVEY PARK In June, the NSWFB held its annual open day. Many vintage fire appliances belonging to HFEA members attended their local fire station to add to the displays. Down Wagga Wagga way, Steve Baistow was there with his 1943 Mack ME 293. The station was open to the public for the day, where they were able to participate in some practical fire fighting experience, talk to the local fire fighters about fire safety, check out the latest in fire appliances and catch a ride on the old Mack. If you have had your appliance on display at the local fire station for the annual open day, drop me a line with some photos and I will put it in the next issue.

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Steve Baistow out with his Mack ME 293 during the Open Day at Turvey Park

RECENT APPLIANCE MOVEMENTS Several HFEA members have recently sold, bought or swapped appliances. HFEA member Neil Baldwin recently placed his Thames Trader on the market. It was not long before it was quickly picked up by another member, our President Guy Ellis. I think at last count that makes it about 467 trucks for Guy. Neil had had the old Thames for as long as I have known him. He was always out and about with the old appliance. He was a regular at the Maitland Steamfest and local parades. I think one of the first displays we did together was for the Telarah Fire Brigade Championships back in 1999. He had the Thames and the Ford D200 and I took along my Dennis Ace. Another trip was out to Paterson just out of Maitland. We had been asked by the Hunter Valley Commercial Vehicle Club to come along. After some mechanical hiccups, Guy made an appearance in the Mack, Neil had brought along the Thames and I tagged along in the Ace. Tucker Park made for a great location to show case a wide variety of vintage trucks, ranging from double decker buses and fire trucks to military vehicles. And of course how can we forget the race back to my place, the little Dennis led uncontested all the way back. I must get those photos out for the next issue. The old Thames will be sadly missed from our area; however its new home is not all that far away. Page Number 9


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Neil Baldwin handing over the keys of the Thames Trader to Guy Ellis

BLAST FROM THE PAST Now I know what you all are about to say. And guess what? You are all wrong. There are actually other makes of fire appliances out there apart from Dennis. Well that’s what people have told me. I have yet to see any but apparently they do exist. So to show that I am not completely one sided, I have added a couple of copies of adverts from the past. They are almost cartoon like in how the manufacturers advertised their products for the various markets. In the following issues of Flyer & Salvage, I will be adding some other old adverts and other flyers that manufacturers produced. It gives a good look into the past on how things were done.

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An early advertisement for Dennis Bros indicating their commitment to the fire brigades of Australia

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An almost comic like advertisement introducing the NEW Dennis F8

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DATES TO REMEMBER HFEA MEETING DATES General Meeting, 10th August 2008 Huntingwood Fire Station General Meeting, 9th November 2008 venue ( CareFlight Base Westmead to be confirmed )

HFEA EVENTS (Events Officer – Shane McDonnell 0401 690081) 40th Anniversary Historic Fire Engine Association March 2009

NSWFB EVENTS Richmond Fire Station Centenary, (exact date to be confirmed) NSWFB FIREFIGHTER CHAMPIONSHIPS South Region NSWFB State Championships

Bega Tamworth

30th & 31st August 2008 18th to 24th October 2008

CMC EVENTS All British Day, Sunday 17th August 2008, Kings School North Parramatta. Shannons Eastern Creek Classic, 24th August 2008, Eastern Creek Raceway. CMC MEETINGS Held on the last Monday of uneven numbered months at 8pm at Western Suburbs Australian Rules Football Club at 40 Hampton Road, Croydon Park.

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FOR SALE Thinking of selling your fire engine? How about giving thought to selling it to a current member of the HFEA. If you are unable to do this, suggest that the new owner becomes a member of the Association. That way we keep it an active viable association dedicated to retaining the history of a very unique industry. Remember also to advertise it through our members first. We have over 70 members who are always keen to add to their collections

1971 Dennis D600 Jag Series 2 Fire Engine ex NSWFB Comes with a lot of gear. Good condition, but could do with a repaint to make perfect. Currently unregistered, it is located at Albury NSW Price $6000 Contact Steve McLennan on 0438 406 844

1942 Mack Pumper ME143 ex NSWFB 100% complete and running (only missing hub caps) Needs restoration finishing (painting and getting to roadworthy) Currently located on the Central Coast Price $5000 firm Email guy on firieguy@yahoo.co.uk for photos Contact Guy Ellis on 0414 182 010

Dennis D600 1968 Model Series 1 (Ex NSWFB ME 382) New windscreen fitted, complete new brakes in front end, Officer’s spotlight, radio, scaling ladders, aluminium ladder, all red beacons, spare tyre, hard suction hoses & suction hose spanners, brass suction strainer, strainer basket, electronic siren, rotary brass trumpet siren, driving lights, many spares including brand new radiator and too many other extras to list. Complete history available. P.O.A Contact Kevin Smith on 0417 046 411 Two Dennis D600 Fire Engines ( ME375 & ME 416 ) Both ex NSWFB appliances Includes a large amount of equipment incl ladders, lights and sirens etc One is fully registered, the other is on historic plates Priced to sell as a single purchase or each separately Contact Ian Wilkinson on 0417 43 7236 (BH) or 6355 2711 (AH) Genuine ex-NSWFB cage lights, in working order $15.00 each 2 with NSWFB Rescue Section tags on the lead $25.00 each HFEA Name Plate (former Club Rego Plate) $25.00 each Contact Doug Humphreys on 0419 441 687 with proceeds to the HFEA Page Number 14


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Contributors Flyer & Salvage Issue 177

Articles

Aaron Bischoff Guy Ellis Steve Baistow

Photos

Steve Baistow Guy Ellis Dr Barry Hutchinson

HFEA WORD FIND

D A V E Y P U M P R

R E C N A I L P P A

O C N E W W O R L D

F I K N B G H S D B

D J A F I A M F S J

E A U T G S O Y E E

JAG BEDFORD DAVEY PUMP AEC NEW WORLD BIG FOUR GARFORD

B G A R F O R D M A

Z L C Q O N R G A C

MORRIS MACK ACE THAMES HFEA APPLIANCE DENNIS

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Flyer & Salvage is the official newsletter of the Historic Fire Engine Association Incorporated (HFEA). The HFEA solicits and actively encourages submissions to this newsletter from members and other interested parties. Since many such submissions are published, this newsletter often reflects the opinions and views of its contributors and not necessarily the opinions and views of the Association. All contributions for inclusion in Flyer & Salvage should be mailed to: The Editor, Flyer & Salvage, 7 Berrinda Close Bolwarra Hts NSW 2320 Or emailed to aaron.bischoff@bigpond.com. All other correspondence should be addressed to: The Secretary, HFEA, P.O. Box 520, Kingswood NSW 2747. Flyer & Salvage is named after two of the firefighting appliances that operated from the City of Sydney Fire Station (traditionally known as Headquarters) in Castlereagh St, Sydney. During the early days of the Historic Fire Engine Association, meetings were held at Headquarters Fire Station, and were often interrupted by fire calls. Crews were called to their appliances over the public address system, and the call of “Flyer & Salvage� was the most common. The Flyer was one of three pumping appliances at Headquarters (the others being the Runner and the Second Call). It was the first appliance to leave the station on each fire call in the city area. It was crewed by an Officer and five firefighters, none of whom were allowed to leave the immediate area of the Flyer during their shift. The Salvage motor was designed and equipped to carry salvage and rescue gear not normally carried on firefighting appliances. Most Salvages have now been removed from their traditional homes at the District stations and redeployed at stations which have been allocated primary rescue responsibilities. In this new role they are known as Rescues and respond to all rescue incidents within their area. HFEA OFFICE BEARERS FOR 2008: (elected at the February Annual General Meeting). President Guy Ellis Vice Presidents Shane McDonell Keith Lang Secretary Ray Kelly Editor Aaron Bischoff Treasurer Doug Humphreys CMC Delegate Brian Blunt Events Officers Shane McDonnell Registrars Gerard Duck Shane McDonnell NSWFB Liaison Ray Kelly NSWRFS Liaison Keith Lang Public Officer Gerard Duck

0414 182 010

firieguy@yahoo.co.uk

(02) 4736 7609 (home) 0415 497 735 (mob)

jorcon@eftel.net.au excal@lisp.com.au

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0409 773 207 (mob)

aaron.bischoff@bigpond.com doug.humphreys@aat.gov.au

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bblunt@bigair.com.au

(02) 4736 7609 (home)

jorcon@eftel.net.au

(02) 4578 3665 (ah) (02) 4736 7609 (home)

gjduck@bigpond.com.au jorcon@pnc.com.au

(02) 9626 8289

0408 268289 (mob)

0415 497 735 (mob)

excal@lisp.com.au

(02) 4578 3665 (ah)

gjduck@bigpond.com.au

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