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Vince & Ian’s Dennis Light 4 on display at Warnies

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From the Editor

May 2008

Aaron Bischoff

Welcome to issue 176 of the Flyer and Salvage. Thanks to everyone for the positive comments on my first Flyer & Salvage. It was a great challenge and I enjoyed putting it all together. Thanks also to Brett for putting me in the right direction and to Ray for the proof reading (kept him busy on this). To everyone who sent stories and photos in, a big thanks. It makes it so much easier putting it all in place and this of course makes for a more interesting read. As always, submissions of stories and photos are always appreciated. And of course, if you want something added to the Flyer and Salvage as a regular article, just let me know. Due to work commitments (they have actually let me be the boss) I was unable to get to a couple of displays/outings in April. However we have been fortunate that our members and my mum and dad were able to get the camera out to share the day with us.

Enjoy the read.

HFEA General Meeting The last meeting of the HFEA was held at the City of Sydney Fire Station 213 Castlereagh St on Sunday 18th May 2008. The meeting was followed by a BBQ lunch and a tour of the station. With fifteen members attending, Brett Williams’ Land Drover and Ryan Williams’ International added to a good turnout. Remember that each meeting now incorporates a run. So come along with your fire engine.

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A friendly reminder! A number of our members have yet to pay their 2008 Membership Fees. If you happen to be one of those members, please take this as a final reminder to pay. If payment is not received within the next month, your membership will lapse. If you have paid and have not yet received a receipt please advise the Secretary ASAP.

2008 Steamfest Maitland Well the weekend of 19 & 20Th April was not the sort of weekend the organisers of Steamfest were hoping for. From early in the week it was obvious they were in for a very wet weekend. Sunday was to be the Show & Shine car display in Maitland Park. However, with the very wet and extremely boggy park, Neil Baldwin with his Thames and Guy Ellis in the Dennis D600, settled for the high ground and displayed their appliances outside the Maitland Fire Station. A big thanks to my mum and dad for taking these photos for me.

Guy’s F44 outside Maitland Fire Station during Steamfest Page Number 3


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Maitland’s Composite sitting in the engine bay as part of the Station’s Steamfest display.

Another view of Guy’s F44 with Neil’s Thames just out of shot Page Number 4


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OUT & ABOUT If you have been out and about with your fire appliance, how about sharing your adventure with other HFEA members. So if you have a story or some photos of a recent run or visit, just send an email to aaron.bischoff@bigpond.com and I’ll include it in the next issue of Flyer & Salvage. From our friends up the Mid North Coast. Kevin Mulley and Mate Mcwhirter have been out displaying their old appliances and by the sounds of it enjoying the atmosphere at the same time. The boys were to attend Timbertown with their pumpers but due to the wet weather, the day out was cancelled. This obviously did not dampen their spirits as they were able to get out to an open day at Douglas Vale Winery on the 12th April. They even have a nice drop of port Kevin reports. With Kevin busy getting old 277 Dennis back together and ready for the repaint, there will soon be four old appliances in the Port Macquarie and Wauchope area.

Mate Mcwhirter seen at Douglas Vale Winery with the Dennis 250 and Dennis Ace Page Number 5


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Kevin Mulley’s Dennis before restoration

Old ME277 Dennis getting ready for a new coat of paint Page Number 6


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From our friends on the Central Coast. On Saturday 19th April, members of the HFEA attended Warnies located on the Central Coast. Located next to Warnervale Rail Station on the Central Coast, Warnies, a local country store and caf• often holds market days and this one, titled “Warnies’ Fired Up”, and was well supported by HFEA and NSWFB fire appliances. The HFEA was represented with Guy and Robyn, Shane and Kris, Vince and Ian displaying a Garford, J1 Bedford, Dennis Light 4, Dennis Jag, Dennis Rolls and the old centenary motor “White Knight”. The NSW Fire Brigades also attended with Berkley Vale’s Heavy Hazmat appliance, Hamlyn Terrace’s Volvo, Bateau Bay’s aerial appliance and the Zone SEV International. A great display of vintage and current appliances made for a good afternoon for HFEA members and their families.

HFEA members’ appliances drew a good crowd at “Warnies” on the Central Coast in April 2008

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Zone SEV International, Guy’s Dennis F44 and Hamlyn Terrace’s Volvo at Warnervale.

The NSW Fire Brigades Centenary Appliance now owned by Guy Ellis

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From our Interstate friends On the weekend of the 3rd & 4th May 2008, our friends at the Canberra Fire Museum held an open day. HFEA President Guy Ellis attended with his Dennis F44 saying the weekend was great. “These are really great blokes and they always make you feel welcome� was just one of the comments on the weekend. For anyone wanting to visit the Museum, it is open on Saturdays and Sundays with access during the week by appointment with free entry for HFEA members. Contact details for the Canberra Fire Museum are as follows: Ted Plunkett Drew McLean Dave Mackin

President Secretary Treasurer

02 62545708 02 62979854 02 62822538

Outside Canberra Fire Museum: Dennis Jag, Dennis F12, Scania Heavy Pumper and the AEC Ladders

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A model T Ford with a modified 250 back on display

An old Volvo F86 Pumper of the Canberra Fire Brigade Page Number 10


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An old Hoskiss Fire engine in storage at the Canberra Fire Museum

And finally from our friends down South. HFEA member Steve Baistow writes on the International Foam Pumper that was stationed at Wagga Wagga and its replacement the Isuzu FVR800 Pumper.

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International Foam Pumper FBY 264 1800 series 1810C Series 1820D series cab Motor: International 6.9lt 212hp V8 petrol Transmission: 4 speed Allison Automatic Pump: 57-60 ltr/sec or 750-800 gallons/min UMPX Godiva universal multi purpose pump

FBY 264 Entered service November 1984 at 65 Station Rydalmere, later being sent to NSWFB workshop, where it was fitted with two 90 litre foam tanks located behind crew cab with twin shut off valves and plumbing to the pump, with 25mm fittings and shut off valves between deliveries.

FBY 264 with foam tanks mounted behind crew cab FBY 264 was then installed at 62 Station Bankstown as a foam pumper for calls to Bankstown Airport and as the 1st response. After approximately 5 years it was sent to 462 Station Tighes Hill and serviced from 1994 to 2001 when it was sent back to the NSWFB workshop for a month before being stationed to 480 Station Wagga Wagga.

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Remaining at there until January 2003 when it was replaced with an Isuzu FVR 800 6 speed manual with a 49 ltr/sec pump. Pumper 264 was then sent to 322 Station Henty where it serviced from early 2003 until 2006, when again it was replaced by an Isuzu pumper. FBY 264 returned to Wagga Wagga as the Zone SEV where it has remained till now. FBY 264 is one of the last International pumpers left in service and will probably go out of service by the end of 2008. FBY 264 is unique in that its original 1810C cab was replaced with an 1820D series cab. It is also the only known pumper out of the International Acco series that was converted to a foam pumper and is still in service as a designated foam pumper, more than likely the last pumper to serve in the NSWFB as a designated Foam pumper. FBY 264 will be replaced by an unknown SEV, more than likely an Isuzu.

FBY 264 in the rear yard of Wagga Wagga Fire Station

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Another view of the International Foam Motor

ISUZU PUMPER FVR 800 series class 2

Wagga Wagga’s new Isuzu Pumper FBY 504 Page Number 14

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Motor: Isuzu 8.4 Ltr 220 hp and naturally aspirated Transmission: Isuzu 6 speed manual Pump: 49 ltr/sec or 650 gallons/min Rosenbeau pump

Near side pocket layout of the Type 2 Isuzu Pumper

Rear view of the Isuzu showing the hose pockets and pump layout Page Number 15


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Off side pocket layout of the Type 2 Isuzu Pumper

Something a little different! My dad, both grandfathers and a couple of uncles all worked for the South Maitland Railways at various times. I found these photos while going through some of the old things that my grandfather had some years ago. They are of the old Mines Rescue Station at Abermain near Maitland.

Original Mines Rescue Station with the Supt.’s car and rescue car Page Number 16


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The following two photos are of the rescue car. As you can see from the photos, the appliance was very well equipped for the time. It carried fire fighting equipment, proto breathing apparatus, first aid and rescue equipment. There was also a section at the rear to carry the rescue crews. Can anyone identify the make of the vehicle?

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DATES TO REMEMBER HFEA MEETING DATES General Meeting, 10th August 2008 venue to be advised General Meeting, 9th November 2008 venue to be advised with Christmas party also proposed after the meeting.

HFEA EVENTS (Events Officer – Shane McDonnell 0401 690081) 40th Anniversary Historic Fire Engine Association March 2009

NSWFB EVENTS Randwick Fire Station Centenary, Saturday 14th June 2008 Richmond Fire Station Centenary, 2008 ( exact date to be confirmed ) NSWFB FIREFIGHTER CHAMPIONSHIPS Metro Region South Region NSWFB State Championships

Morisset Bega Tamworth

14th & 15th June 2008 30th & 31st August 2008 18th to 24th October 2008

CMC EVENTS All British Day, Sunday 17th August 2008, Kings School North Parramatta. Shannons Eastern Creek Classic, 24th August 2008, Eastern Creek Raceway. CMC MEETINGS Held on the last Monday of even numbered months at 8pm at Western Suburbs Australian Rules Football Club at 40 Hampton Road, Croydon Park.

OTHER EVENTS Liverpool Super Swap Meet Run by the Chrysler Restorers Club of Australia on 20/07/2008 at Fairfield City Showground, Smithfield Road, Prairiewood.

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FOR SALE Thinking of selling your fire engine? How about giving thought to selling it to a current member of the HFEA. If you are unable to do this, suggest that the new owner becomes a member of the Association. That way we keep it an active viable association dedicated to retaining the history of a very unique industry. Remember also to advertise it through our members first. We have over 70 members who are keen to add to their collections. Look at our President as an example; 11 appliances at last count and making a move on the nation's fire services.

1960 Ford Thames Trader ex NSWFB #320. In good order and condition, needs a new pump relay shaft bearing to make it 100%. Competitively priced. Contact Neil Baldwin for more details on --- GET THE NUMBER OFF GUY --Dennis D600 1968 Model Series 1 ( Ex NSWFB ME 382) New windscreen fitted, complete new brakes in front end, Officer’s spotlight, radio, scaling ladders, aluminium ladder, all red beacons, spare tyre, hard suction hoses & suction hose spanners, brass suction strainer, strainer basket, electronic siren, rotary brass trumpet siren, driving lights, many spares including brand new radiator and too many other extras to list. Complete history available. P.O.A Contact Kevin Smith on 0417 046 411 Complete ladder supports with brass rails from Dennis Big Four or similar $100.00

Contact Chris Moore on 02 9876 1680 or 0403 927 147 Genuine ex-NSWFB cage lights, in working order $15.00 each 2 with NSWFB Rescue Section tags on the lead $25.00 each HFEA Name Plate (former Club Rego Plate) $25.00 each Contact Doug Humphreys on 0419 441 687 with proceeds to the HFEA

Contributors Flyer & Salvage Issue 176 

Articles

Aaron Bischoff Kevin Mulley Guy Ellis Steve Baistow

Photos

Shane & Kris McDonnell Ken Mulley Ray & Shirley Bischoff ( the Ed’s mum & dad ) Steve Baistow Guy Ellis Page Number 19


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Flyer & Salvage is the official newsletter of the Historic Fire Engine Association Incorporated (HFEA). The HFEA solicits and actively encourages submissions to this newsletter from members and other interested parties. Since many such submissions are published, this newsletter often reflects the opinions and views of its contributors and not necessarily the opinions and views of the Association. All contributions for inclusion in Flyer & Salvage should be mailed to: The Editor, Flyer & Salvage, 7 Berrinda Close Bolwarra Hts NSW 2320 Or emailed to aaron.bischoff@bigpond.com. All other correspondence should be addressed to: The Secretary, HFEA., P.O. Box 520, Kingswood NSW 2747. Flyer & Salvage is named after two of the firefighting appliances that operated from the City of Sydney Fire Station (traditionally known as Headquarters) in Castlereagh St, Sydney. During the early days of the Historic Fire Engine Association, meetings were held at Headquarters Fire Station, and were often interrupted by fire calls. Crews were called to their appliances over the public address system, and the call of “Flyer & Salvage� was the most common. The Flyer was one of three pumping appliances at Headquarters (the others being the Runner and the Second Call). It was the first appliance to leave the station on each fire call in the city area. It was crewed by an Officer and five firefighters, none of whom were allowed to leave the immediate area of the Flyer during their shift. The Salvage motor was designed and equipped to carry salvage and rescue gear not normally carried on firefighting appliances. Most Salvages have now been removed from their traditional homes at the District stations and redeployed at stations which have been allocated primary rescue responsibilities. In this new role they are known as Rescues and respond to all rescue incidents within their area. HFEA OFFICE BEARERS FOR 2008: (elected at the February Annual General Meeting). President Guy Ellis Vice Presidents Shane McDonell Keith Lang Secretary Ray Kelly Editor Aaron Bischoff Treasurer Doug Humphreys CMC Delegate Brian Blunt Events Officers Shane McDonnell Registrars Gerard Duck Shane McDonnell NSWFB Liaison Ray Kelly NSWRFS Liaison Keith Lang Public Officer Gerard Duck

0414 182 010

firieguy@yahoo.co.uk

(02) 4736 7609 (home) 0415 497 735 (mob)

jorcon@eftel.net.au excal@lisp.com.au

(02) 9626 8289

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0409 773 207 (mob)

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(02) 9663 0661 (ah)

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