Summer 2011

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PROGRESS A publication of the Virginia Adult Learning Resource Center

Working with

Under-resourced Adults An Interview with Ruby Payne

Summer 2011 Vol. 23, No. 3

Working with Diverse Learners 1

An Interview with Ruby Payne

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Coaching Life

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An Interview with Janet Isserlis

7 The Millennial Student Editor’s Note: Ruby Payne is an expert on poverty and mindsets in the Classroom of economic classes. Her many 8 Empowering Adult publications include A Framework Learners for Health Care for Understanding Poverty and (with Philip E. DeVol) Bridges 12 Creating a Safe Space Out of Poverty: Strategies for for LGBTQ Students Professionals and Communities. 16 Promoting Resilience She has been a high school teacher, principal, and school administrator of Adult Learners and is the founder and CEO of the Back VALRC Update aha! Process, Inc., educational consulting firm. Ruby Payne holds a Ph.D. in educational leadership and policy studies from Loyola University and an M.A. in English literature Ruby: All learning is coded emotionally. from Western Michigan University. She was Particularly for people from generations of interviewed for Progress in May 2011. poverty, the nature of the relationship is crucial. If the relationship is not there, or Hillary: Thank you for agreeing to talk with they don’t like you, they are not going to me today. I’m Hillary Major with the Virginia learn from you. Often, it’s considered a form Adult Learning Resource Center in Richmond, of dishonesty to work for someone that you Virginia. We work with adult educators all don’t like. Education has to be a relationship around the state who teach adults who are of mutual respect. Mutual respect is not learning basic reading, writing, or math about being a student’s friend. It is about skills; studying to take the GED® Tests; or holding high expectations and providing learning English. I think adult ed is similar insistent support; in other words, telling to many other educational fields in that a students “I know you can do it, I’m going to large percentage of our teachers and staff help you, and here’s what I insist on from are middle class, while many of our students you.” come from poverty. Based on your work, A huge issue in generational poverty is what advice do you have for teachers in this that people live in a survival environment, situation? which is this very concrete, reactive world. To survive in school and Continued on page 18 ...


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