Records Volume 79: The Diaries of Bishop William Poynter, V.A. 1815-1824 by The Catholic Record Society

CATHOLIC RECORD SOCIETY PUBLICATIONS (RECORDS SERIES) VOLUME 79

Bishop William Poynter, Vicar Apostolic of the London District (Portrait in St Edmund's College, Ware)

The Diaries of Bishop Willi ant Poynter, V.A. . (1815 - 1824)

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CANON PETER PHILLIPS

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CONTENTS Introduction Diaries

Bibliography

256

Index of People

261

Index of English Missions/Churches

283

General Index

287

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ho was William Poynter and what do his diaries tell us of his life and the times in which he lived? Only seven of his diaries, between 1815 and 1824, have survived. Yet they cover a period early in the nineteenth century when issues that were critical for the future of the Catholic Church in Britain had to be addressed . For this undertaking William Poynter had been well prepared. His place of birth and upbringing are both significant in the light of his future calling.

1. Early Life (1762-1775)

He was born in Petersfield, Hampshire, on 20 May 1762, the first child of John Poynter, a coachbuilder, and Mary Todd of Warblington, a village close to Langstone, Havant. In East Hampshire Catholic faith and practice had been kept alive throughout the years of persecution, mainly due to the devotion and sacrifices made by the recusant Catholic families who withstood the crippling fines imposed upon them for nonattendance at services at the parish church and who at great risk to their lives housed priests and encouraged them to celebrate Mass and the sacraments secretly in their homes for their households and neighbours . Such centres of the 'old religion' were scattered throughout the region, among them the Shelleys and Vachells in Buriton, the Dormers at Idsworth House, the Carylls of Ladyholt, the Fordes at Uppark, the Cottons of Warblington Castle, the Eystons at East Hendred and the Blounts at Mapledurham. The illegal 'traffic' in Catholic priests in penal times had been made easier by the access to the sea at Langstone Harbour, traditionally reputed for its trade in smuggling. The seminary priests and Jesuits, trained in colleges abroad, could be brought ashore as secretly as any other contraband. What is more, by royal charter the whole region had been placed under the jurisdiction of the See of Winchester, thus shielding it from the direct inspection of the Crown officials and priest-catchers in London.

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Although Bishop Challoner had visited Peters field in 1741, recording 60 Catholics and confirming 31 of them, I there was no Catholic chapel in Petersfield in 1762, and therefore William Poynter was baptised at home four days after his birth. The priest who baptised him, Ralph Falkner from Maryland, an alumnus of the English College in Rome, failed to record the baptism. It was not until 19 years later, when evidence of his baptism was required before he could receive minor orders, that the priest at Brockhampton, the nearest Catholic mission, some 15 miles south in Havant, where a chapel, 'removed from Langstone & held in the attiks of 3 cottages in Brockhampton' had been built in 1752, made the following entry, in Latin, in the register in 1781: I Missionary Priest of the London District attest that I have received the following sworn statement from William Todd uncle and godfather and also John and Mary Poynter parents of William Poynter: 'We the undersigned attest and swear that William Poynter son of John and his wife Mary Todd, born on 20th May 1762 was baptised by the Reverend Ralph Falkner missionary priest of the London District in his parents' house at Petersfield on 24th May 1762 in our presence. J.Poynter, M.Poynter, W. Todd'. I Richard Cornthwaite have witnessed this statement and have set my sea1. 2

The importance of the Brockhampton mission in the life of the Catholic Church in the south of England is revealed in a letter written by Benjamin Hoadley, Bishop of Winchester, to a Minister of State on 22 May 1759 concerning: ... a house with a large Chapel, built a few Years ago by one Morgan, a popish Priest, situated in the Manor of Havant in Hants ... It is opposite Langstone Harbour, and it is a building which cost twelve or fourteen hundred Pounds. All the Papists in or about Portsmouth, and all who come from abroad, or go abroad from thence, make no Secret of going to this Chapel: and make generally a Large Congregation . There is a Service twice on Sundays and regularly on Holy days ... This House is certainly more dangerous than any other House of the Same Kind , by reason of its Situation, which is so perfectly convenient for sending Persons abroad with Intelligence, or receiving Intelligence from abroad .3

The Brockhampton registers record that the Poynter family regularly attended the chapel there and were fully involved in the life of the mission. Their names and those of their relations, the Knapps (one of whom was ordained priest in the English College I 2

Burton , Edwin, The Life and Times of Bishop Chalioner, 2 vols. (1909), 1, p. 149. Hampshire Registers III: Brockhampton, CRS 44 (1949), pp. 3, 48, 138. Ibid., p. 145.

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at Douai in 1775) and the Todds appear frequently as godparents at baptisms and witnesses at marriages. The tombstones of William's maternal grandparents are still visible in the churchyard of St Thomas a Becket church in Warblington. The author of the Bulbeck MS, which describes the early history of the Brockhampton mission, includes the note, 'Bp Poynter from Peters field said his catechism at the Altar rails' . After attending the Grammar School at Petersfield, where he was the only Catholic student, at the age of 13 he was sent by Bishop Challoner to the English College, Douai, to study for the priesthood. A letter from William Gibson, the President of the College, to Bishop Douglass, the Vicar Apostolic in London, in January 1784 reported his progress and good repute: 'We have one Poynter here. He has one or two brothers, one of which if not both would gladly come. If they be like him, we need not care how many we have of them' . In fact his two younger brothers, James and John, did not follow William to Douai. Both married, James to Susanna Watts at Brockhampton, John to Sarah Glover at Portsea, and are mentioned in the Diaries.5 2. Douai (1775-1795)

The members at the College at Douai in 1775 were made up of 16 staff (all priests), 31 students of philosophy or theology and 70 studying humanities. The College had been founded by William Allen in 1568 as a seminary to prepare priests for the English mission, although over the years sons of many Catholic families joined the College for a Catholic education which was denied them at home . The fees of the clerical students were paid from a grant from the Pontifical College in Rome. Lay students were supported financially by parents and friends. Before he was ordained priest in 1786 William Poynter took the solemn College Oath, promising to obey the President and go on the English mission when required and not to join a religious order. In the course of his studies he defended theses in both Moral and Dogmatic Theology, for which he was granted a Doctorate in Divinity. He lectured in logic and theology in the College and was appointed Prefect of Studies. And so it happened that his handwriting records the dramatic entry:

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Ibid., p. 139. The Gibson letter is quoted in Anstruther 4, p. 222. For Poynter's brothers, see CRS 44 passim and Hampshire Registers TV: Gossport and Portsea, CRS 49 (1955), passim.

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On 12 October 1793 all the College staff and students ... were led to imprisonment in the Scots College ... until 16 October, when they were forcibly transferred to the castle at Doullens, where amid many hardships they await their release. October 1, 1794.6

Their imprisonment during the French Revolution was a result of the declaration of war between England and France on the execution of King Louis XVI. The College was invaded and searched by national guards ('the most ill-looking fellows you ever saw'7), though some of the College treasures and relics, including the martyred body of John Southworth, were buried by students within or outside the buildings. The Douai 'Prefect of Studies Book' was saved by one of the youngest students, Robert Gradwell,8 and was held by William Poynter during their captivity. On the way to Doullens some of the party managed to escape and make their way back to England . The prisoners eventually numbered 26 from the English College, including Poynter, Gradwell and John Bulbeck from Ravant, and 6 Benedictines from their Douai house. They became known as the Douai 'trente-deux', sleeping in cramped quarters on straw and eating 'whenever we could beg or buy a little bread without regard to its colour, white, brown, black or purple, for we ate all sorts indifferently'.9 The imprisonment in fact sounded the deathknell of the English Colleges at Douai and St Omer which were confiscated and never returned to their original use. During their captivity William Poynter demonstrated his leadership by reciting his breviary in full view on the ramparts of the prison. It was later revealed what encouragement this act brought not only to the English, but also to the French prisoners. On 24 November 1794 they were released, and after a night in Arras, they were housed in the Irish College in Douai, before making their way to Calais, where they crossed to Dover in an American ship on 2 March 1795.

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Douai College Documents 1639-1794, CRS 63 (1972), p. 337 (Latin original). Ward , St Edmund's, p. 74. Robert Gradwell was ordained in 1802; after working in Lancashire, he was appointed rector of the re-opened English College, Rome, in 1818, where he acted as agent for the V.A.s. He was the first secular priest to be rector. Consecrated Bp of Ludda and co-adjutor in the London District, 1828, he died in 1833 before succeeding. On 'The Prefect of Studies Book' see CRS 63, pp. 133-4. Ward St Edmund's, p. 82 .

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3. St Edmund's College (1795-1812)

On arrival in London William Poynter was immediately set to work by Bishop Douglass on the task of planning to replace the English colleges at Douai and St Orner on English soil. The Prime Minister, William Pitt, in an interview with Bishop Douglass, advised that the new college be near the existing small Catholic school at the Old Hall in Hertfordshire, which had been bought by Bishop James Talbot in 1769, in the hope that it would attract little attention; the ghastly scenes of the Gordon Riots in 1780 were still alive in people's minds . The school had already been earmarked by Bishop Douglass as a possible refuge for students expelled from France at the outbreak of the Revolution. With this in mind he had taken advantage of the Relief Act of 1791 , which had removed the prohibition of Catholic places of worshiplo to replace the hidden chapel in the loft of the Old Hall with a new chapel which was built at the back of the 'Old College' and blessed and opened by him in December 1792. He wrote in his diary: '1793. On the 16th November, the feast of St Edmund of Canterbury, we commenced studies or established a new College there, a substitute for Douai' .11 Overcrowding in the limited accommodation afforded by the Old Hall and the neighbouring 'Hermitage' soon caused difficulties, and in May 1794 Bishop Gibson, Vicar Apostolic of the Northern District, wrote to say that he had found a place for a College in the north, 'It is called Crooked Hall (sic) , a retired place about 11 miles from Durham',12 to which the northern students were transferred. It was, however, a fortuitous legacy that enabled St Edmund's to become a major replacement for Douai in the south of England. On a visit to his family in 1795 William Poynter told the story to a gathering of Catholics in Havant of the imprisonment of the 'trente-deux' at Doullens experienced by himself and a Havant boy John Bulbeck, of the loss of the college at Douai and of the plans to replace Douai College at Old Hall in spite of lack of funds. One of his audience, John Sone, a wealthy miller and a generous benefactor to the mission, took him aside and asked, 'Sir, would ten thousand pounds help to meet the difficulty?,. 13 And to confirm his offer he left that

Provided they were legally registered, that the doors were left unlocked during the services, and that the building did not contain a bell tower. Ward , St Edmund's, p. 100. Ibid. , p. 109. Ibid. , p. 128.

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amount in his will to Bishop Douglass for the building of St Edmund's. He died a few months later. The constitution of the new College is summed up in the first entry in the Diary of St Edmund's College, again in Poynter's handwriting, thus making him a witness to the death of the College at Douai and to its rebirth in England at St Edmund's: AD 1795. The Rt Rev John Douglass, Vicar Apostolic in the London District, desirous of repairing the losses which England has suffered by the subversion of our Colleges in France, determined to establish without delay a College in the London District, in which the young men who are called to the Ecclesiastical state might be well formed for every part of their duty, and other Children designed for various employments in life might be prepared by a Catholic, and useful education for the discharge of their respective states ... 14

William Poynter was appointed the first vice-president and in 1802 became president. A year later he was appointed titular bishop of Halia and Coadjutor Vicar Apostolic of the London District,15 and consecrated in the chapel at St Edmund's on 29 May by Bishop Douglass. He remained president of the College for another 10 years in spite of frequent absences from the College visiting missions and aiding the infirm Bishop Douglass. The Diaries reflect his great affection and concern for St Edmund 's during the rest of his life. There are many references to the College, which he visited regularly to and from Holborn (a journey of 3 hours each way by carriage), to the Seminary and even to the farms that were part of the College estate. Many ordinations mentioned in the Diaries took place at the College including that of Dom Bede Polding. 16 He also consecrated his successor, Bishop Bramston, and Bishop Thomas Weld,17 the future Cardinal, at St Edmund's. Each year he blessed the holy oils there on Maundy Thursday. Towards the end of his life he arranged for the annual retreat for priests of the London District to be held at the College. In his will he left his heart to the College to be buried in the chapel which he had built and is now a classroom at the end of the ambulacrum.

Ibid. , p . 144.

With right of succession on the death of Bishop Douglass. Polding became the first Archbishop of Sydney, Australia, in 1842. James Yorke Bramston: Poynter's V.G . Appointed coadjutor in 1823, he succeeded as V.A. in 1827; he died in 1836. Poynter had requested his appointment as coadjutor as early as 1815. On Weld, see note 286.

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4. Vicar Apostolic (1812-1827) When Bishop Douglass died on 8 May 1812, Bishop Poynter succeeded him as Vicar Apostolic. There were at that time four Vicars Apostolic in England & Wales, responsible to Rome for the four Districts - London, Midland, Western, Northern. The London Vicariate embraced London itself, the counties of Middlesex, Essex, Surrey, Kent, Sussex, Hampshire, Berkshire, Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire and Hertfordshire, with the Channel Islands and the Isle of Wight. The London Vicar Apostolic also had responsibility for the British Colonies abroad, as is evidenced by the frequent references in the Diaries to his finding bishops and priests to minister in Australia, the West Indies, Quebec and the Eastern Colonies, and his almost daily correspondence with Propaganda in Rome and many other countries abroad . These letters were despatched to foreign countries via Liverpool. It would appear that Propaganda used him as a means of corresponding with bishops in many parts of the world and providing them with funds. He enjoyed a close relationship with the Colonial Office in London, and especially with Lord Bathurst,18 with whom he was in regular contact concerning the appointment of priests and even bishops to the colonies and with whom he often dined . In order to devote his full attention to the pressing problems of the London District and of the Catholic Church in Britain he reluctantly resigned the presidency of St Edmund's in 1813. The College felt his loss enormously and was only to recover its equilibrium years later with the appointment of Thomas Griffiths as president in 1818 . An urgent concern at the time was the small number of priests being ordained in spite of the increasing Catholic population. By 1812 the number of Catholics in the District had increased to 69,000, yet the number of priests had fallen to 88. 19 One of the reasons for this shortfall in the education of priests was lack of funds and so he set up a fund to educate priests. He also made every possible effort to recover the debt that was owed through the confiscation of the English Colleges in France during the Revolution. This engaged much of his time, taking him on several occasions to France for long periods to put the claims before the French government. The visits in 1815-16 and 1817-18 are recorded in the Diaries. In spite of support from the French King Louis XVIII, the Duke of Wellington, the British Ambassador, and Sir Charles Stuart, the 18 19

Lord Bathurst, 1762-1834: Secretary of State for war and the colonies (DNB). Ward , St Edmund's, p. 211.

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charge d'affaires and half brother of Lord Castlereagh, the Foreign Secretary, he came away empty handed. When eventually it was settled that compensation of ÂŁ120,000 should be made, hopes of using the money to educate priests in England were dashed when the English government refused payment to Catholics on the grounds that it was to be used for 'superstitious purposes' . Poynter wrote, 'Justice is therefore denied us because we are Catholics'. 20 It is not clear for what purposes the money was used by the government, though projects such as the building of the Regent's Palace in Brighton and Marble Arch in London have sometimes been suggested. It is said that the disappointment shortened Poynter's life. As Vicar Apostolic he took up residence at 4 Castle (now Furnival) Street, Holborn, in a modest three-storey building, 'a dirty, dingy, shabby-genteel house', where Bishop Douglass had died. The Bishop and his chaplains who lived there were often called 'the gentlemen of the Castle' . Many of the English martyrs had passed the end of Castle Street as they were dragged on hurdles from Newgate prison to their death at Tyburn. Priests and even bishops were ordained in the small chapel there. After Poynter's death the bishop's residence was transferred to Golden Square, and No 4 became a restaurant.

Controversies

Poynter's years as Coadjutor had already given him valuable experience of the major problems facing him as Vicar Apostolic, since he frequently had had to stand in for the ailing Bishop Douglass. The first of the surviving Diaries gives an account of his visit to Rome in 1815 in order to obtain an authoritative judgement from the Pope on these issues. They arose from three main causes: the growing desire of the Catholic laity to be freed from the civil disabilities they still endured as a result of the penal laws; the uneasy relationship between the English and Irish bishops; and the irregular religious loyalties among some of the French emigre priests in England. The difficulty in facing these problems was compounded by differences in character and attitude between Poynter and the Vicar Apostolic of the Midland District, Bishop John Milner. These are well expressed in a letter to Poynter from his Vicar General, James Yorke Bramston:

Ward, 3, p. 149.

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I pray that your Lordship may prove to be a Bee, active, with a sting to use only when necessity requires, but constantly productive of much honey. Avert from us all which is all stir and sting and makes no honey for us . I like not Mitred Wasps.21

These colourful metaphors accurately describe the contrasting characters of the two men . Poynter was renowned for his tact and courtesy, his gentle yet firm way of dealing with delicate situations. Milner, endowed with a very active and discerning intellect, was assertively orthodox in his religious opinions, and even harsh and unbending in the way he expressed them. Their differences were evident in their attitude towards the Catholic laity. Milner resented the role adopted by the laity in ecclesiastical matters, which he regarded as a strictly clerical domain; Poynter on the other hand was conscious of the huge debt owed to the Catholic laity for their part in the preservation of the faith during penal times and supported their co-operation in striving for Catholic emancipation. Things came to a head after a meeting at the St Alban's Tavern of 'many Catholic Noblemen & Gentlemen' , to which the Vicars Apostolic were invited, in January 1810. The object of the meeting was 'to repeal the severe penalties to which Roman Catholics of England are subjected' so that they may enjoy 'an equal participation in the rights, privileges and immunities of the British Constitution. ' They drew up a Petition in the form of five resolutions. It was the Fifth Resolution that caused bitter controversy: That the English Roman Catholics . . . are firmly persuaded that adequate provision for the maintenance of the civil and religious establishments of this kingdom may be made consistently with the strict adherence on their part to the tenets and discipline of the Roman Catholic religion; and that any arrangement of this basis of mutual satisfaction and security and extending to them the full enjoyment of the civil constitution of their country will be met with their grateful concurrence. 22

Poynter and Collingridge of the Western District 23 were persuaded to sign the petition. Milner declined. In articles in the press he denounced the bishops who had signed for laying 'our Church, the inheritance of the martyrs, bound and gagged under the feet of an hypocritical Protestant establishment'. He drew the Irish bishops, for whom he was the agent in England, into the attack, accusing the English bishops of 'acting the part of a few 21 Ibid. , 2, p. 6. 22 Ibid. , I, p . 113 . 23

Peter Bernardine Collingridge OFM (1757-1829), Vicar Apostolic of the Western District 1809-29.

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tame decoy ducks, in order to lead an immense flock of wild Irish ducks into a snare prepared for both parties' .24 The penalties imposed on Catholics in Ireland by the penal laws had not been enforced as rigidly as in England. The Church in Ireland was still governed by an episcopal hierarchy and Catholics were allowed to worship in houses or chapels of their own making, paying a shilling a week for non-attendance at the parish church and permitted only one priest to minister at each chapel. Yet the issue of Roman Catholic emancipation was even more keenly felt than in England. The disabilities imposed by the law kept the majority of the population from holding political office. The number of Catholics in Ireland was four-fifths of the total population of 6 million, with over 2,000 priests, whereas in England at the same time the estimated Catholic population was less than 200,000 and the clergy about 400. Yet as a result of the Act of Union of 1800 the seat of government of Ireland was in London, where the English bishops, being closer at hand, exerted more influence upon Parliament than the Irish bishops. It is understandable that their every political move was watched with some suspicion on the other side of the Irish Sea. In 1813 a further Catholic Relief Bill was brought before Parliament, which would have granted the franchise to Catholics. The vexed question of the veto given to the Crown in the appointment of bishops was not mentioned, but clauses were introduced in the form of an oath and the creation of commissions 'to advise the King of the election of Bishops and deans, and to inspect any bulls or dispensations received from Rome' . The reaction to these proposals was almost predictable. Poynter was of the opinion that the Bill should not be opposed as a whole and that the clauses could be made more acceptable to Catholics. Bishop Milner foresaw no such possibility and distributed a pamphlet among members of Parliament before the debate arguing that the proposed provisions were inconsistent with Catholic discipline. As a result the Speaker declared that the Bill, far from its intention of putting an end to strife, was producing even more strife within the Catholic body; it was halted at the Committee stage. The Catholic Board then demanded Milner's resignation and he was also excluded from a meeting of the other Vicars Apostolic of England and Scotland in Durham in October 1813. Bishop Poynter wrote to the other bishops:

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I should ask whether, knowing the temper and spirit of our colleague Dr Milner, it would be advisable to invite him to the meeting. In the regular course of things he should be there. But unless he could be bound to secrecy, he would communicate everything to the Irish Bishops, and even to the public in some pamphlet or letter in a newspaper. 2S

The other bishops consulted were of the same opinion. The outcome of the Durham meeting was a Pastoral Letter in which the bishops reflected on 'the temperate, peaceful and consistent conduct of British Catholics in seeking relief . . . consistently with the strictest adherence to the tenets and discipline of the Roman Catholic religion'.26 The Pastoral was not read in the Midland District. Another disagreement between the same parties had arisen after the signing of the Concordat between Pope Pius VII and Napoleon in 1801. Most of the emigre priests in England returned to France as a result, but of the 560 who remained some were infected by the statement of the influential Abbe Blanchard that the Pope had been 'heretical' in signing the agreement and that he therefore refused allegiance to him. In 1810 the English Bishops had ruled that priests who subscribed to the 'Blanchardist Schism' should be refused ecclesiastical faculties. One such priest who had subscribed, I'Abbe de Trevaux, had had his faculties withdrawn by Bishop Douglass, but later after an appeal by the Bishop of Angouleme that Trevaux had been too old and feeble to understand all the implications of what he had signed, Bishop Douglass had restored his faculties. Bishop Milner condemned this action as an 'injury to the Communion of the whole Catholic Church'27 and conveyed the news to Ireland. The Archbishop of Dublin wrote to Bishop Douglass demanding an explanation. Convalescing in Ealing in 1811 Douglass asked Bishop Poynter to answer on his behalf, ... being unable to write on account of my eyesight . .. I wish you to write with more than your usual mildness. That I was much surprised at receipt of the letter calling me to say if I had required a retractation and threatening to break communion. 28

Poynter wrote to the Archbishop, As neither Dr Milner nor the Prelates of Ireland have any jurisdiction over Dr Douglass, we do not conceive that either of you have any

Ward, 2, p. 59.

Ibid. , p. 64. Ibid. , 1, p. 163. Ibid. , p. 166.

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right to call on him to explain his reasons in this affair. To the sovereign Pontiff Dr Douglass is ready to explain his conduct. 29

The Diaries explain that when Poynter reached Rome in 1815 he composed a formula which was approved by the Pope: I the undersigned profess that I am under the submission of the Sovereign Pope, Pius VII, as Head of the Church, and I am in communion with the same Pope, as members of the Church. 3D

On his return to England he invited those emigre priests who remained in the District to sign the formula. Most of them complied. Those who refused were asked to return their faculties entitling them to minister in the District. Among the latter was the chaplain to Mrs Fitzherbert. 6. Rome (1814-1815)

With the return of the Pope and Cardinals from exile in Fontainebleau to Rome early in 1814 Bishop Milner had made haste to lay his complaints in person before Pius VII against Bishop Poynter and the English Catholic Board. He travelled light, on horseback with two saddlebags, arriving in June. Poynter, summoned to France at the same time over the Douai claims, was unable to follow him until the end of the year, when he was urgently summoned to Rome by the Rev. Paul Macpherson, the Roman agent for the English Vicars Apostolic: Your presence is absolutely necessary. I alone am too weak to stand against Dr Milner and all Ireland at his heels. You cannot have an idea of all the calumnies he has given in to the Propaganda against you all ... Bring Mr Bramston with you. There will be work enough for you both.3l

He travelled by cabriolet accompanied by James Bramston and a servant. The travelling expenses for each stage of the journey are recorded in detail in the Diaries. The 1815 Diary contains a picturesque account of the places they visited on their journey to Rome which they reached on 14 January 1815 and also on their return journey from Genoa where they followed the Pope when he fled from Rome on news of Napoleon's escape from Elba. There are accounts of their visits

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Ibid. , p. 167. Ibid. , 2, p. 225. Ibid. , p. 105. Paul Macpherson was rector of the Scots College in Rome; agent for

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to shrines and cathedrals, and their impressions of the inhabitants: 'very few poor in the wine country, healthy and stout in the mountains, many beggars in Florence . .. the people very polite and kind ... but the people generally especially in the towns lounging without anything to do'. There are almost no references on either journey to the threat and danger of war, only Lord Bentinck's advice for them to leave Genoa without delay, and on 5 June 1815, twelve days before the Battle of Waterloo, the entry 'From St Trou to Brusselle - a bad day - saw little of the town - full of soldiers'. They had been met in Rome by Macpherson and were housed in the Scots College and provided wi th a carriage and coachman paid for by the Pope. The audiences with the Pope and meetings with the Cardinals are described in the Diary. Mr Bramston describes the first papal audience in his own diaries: Bishop Poynter expressed the devotion to his Holiness, [ofl his colleagues, his Vicars general, his clergy, and the nobility and gentry of England. The Holy Father heard him with complaisant attention; expressed his wish that harmony should be restored among the Bishops. Bishop Poynter said that perfect harmony reigned , save with regard to one only. His Holiness expressed his wish to satisfy the English Government as far as religion would permit, and not meddle in politics, and seemed to allude with some dissatisfaction that some clergy in Ireland had given umbrage to Government. 32

Not all interviews with Cardinals in Rome reflected that 'complaisant attention'. Neither Milner nor Poynter found it easy to understand the subtleties of the Roman practice of negotiation. Poynter spoke of the 'versatility' of Cardinal Litta, the Prefect of Propaganda, before whom Bishop Milner had voiced his complaints. In a letter to a fellow Vicar Apostolic, Bishop Colllingridge, he describes a meeting with him: Mr Bramston and I rose against him, and we spoke as loud as he did. We told him that we discovered in some Cardinals a disposition to sacrifice the English Vicars Apostolic to Bishop Milner and the Irish Bishops, and to sacrifice the Catholics of England to the Irish populace ... Mr Bramston, who by his sensible and forceful but respectful way of speaking has generally produced more effect than I have, told him that before Dr Milner the character of a Vicar Apostolic was sacred in England; but that he had violated the respect due to that character, and encouraged others to attack US. 33

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AAW/SEC, Series 15/3, Bramston's Diary. Ward, 2, p. 126.

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Afterwards, in desperation, Mr Bramston exclaimed, 'The Cardinal is a weather-cock' .34 The agenda included all the matters in which Poynter was in dispute with Bishop Milner, in particular regarding the discussions that had taken place between Cardinal Consalvi, the powerful lay Papal Secretary of State and Lord Castlereagh, representing the British Government, concerning the possibility of emancipation. As a result Dr Poynter could write in his diary that 'there was a good understanding between Rome and the British Government'. Poynter eventually left Genoa with four copies of a document from the Congregation of Cardinals, which became known as the 'Genoese Letter', to be delivered to the other English bishops and to Ireland. It stated: Let us now consider the election of Bishops . . .. His Holiness feels no hesitation in allowing those to whom it appertains, to present to the King's ministers a list of candidates, in order that if any of them should be obnoxious or suspected, the Government may immediately point him out, so that he may be expunged . ... 35

This apparent concession veto in the appointment of indignation especially from layman, who vilified Bishop

by Rome to the right of a form of bishops caused a violent outburst of Daniel O'Connell, the leading Irish Poynter in a public speech:

Poor man! ... He exerted every effort to carry tIlls ruinous measure. One of our Northern Prelates who is advanced in life and a good deal deaf, was in the habit in the present synod of mistaking Poynter's name; he constantly called him 'Doctor Spaniel'. On being corrected two or three times in the heat of the debate, he exclaimed 'Poynter by name, but spaniel by nature!'36

7. Problems at Home (1815-1827) Dr Poynter found further problems awaItmg him at home, principally what became known as 'the unveiling of the retired ladies' or religious sisters, forbidding them to wear their habits in

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Ibid. , p. 132 Ibid. , pp. 205-19. Ibid. , pp. 147-8.

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public,37 and his refusal to allow the official recogmtIOn of the Jesuits (the 'Gentlemen of Stonyhurst') in England without the approval of the Government. 38 Both brought him into direct opposition to Bishop Milner, as did his treatment of Peter Gandolphy,39 a chaplain at the Spanish Chapel, concerning the publication of his book on Apologetics, for which he had been granted a Roman Imprimatur but of which Poynter questioned the orthodoxy. Eventually Gandolphy submitted to Poynter's wishes. He retired from the Spanish Chapel and went to live in retirement. Soon he fell ill and died on 9 July 1821 at the age of 42. It is reported that on hearing of his death Dr Poynter broke down in tears. It is not surprising that the constant and sometimes violent opposition which he received caused him bouts of despondency. A letter to one of his fellow bishops, to whom he bares his soul, reflects his feelings : I do not think there is a Bishop in the Catholic Church in so painful a situation as I am in. The Irish Bishops are unjustly turned against me, Bishop Milner circulating his libellous pamphlets against me in the London District, and over the whole Church; our Catholic gentlemen in their eagerness for Emancipation press the conditions imposed by the legislature, and amid this their eagerness no common prudence, firmness and patience is needed to keep them right. Your Lordship has reason to compassionate me; I hope you will pray for me and be ready to instruct me and support me. 40

A letter to Cardinal Litta in Rome conveys the same sentiment: The mitre which I wear is become to me a crown of thorns; and if I have to bear the cross that is laid upon my shoulders until death, by the help of God's grace I will call out with the Apostle, "God forbid that I should glory but in the cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ. ... "

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Ibid. , p. 165. The English nuns expelled from France during the Revolution, in particular the Benedictines at Hammersmith, the Sepulchrines of New Hall and the Poor Clares of Gosfield, Essex, had been helped fina ncialIy by the British Government. When peace was restored this protection ceased. However, the Prime Minister, Lord Liverpool, assured Poynter that the nuns could remain teaching in schools provided they did not wear their habit. This condition was never enforced. Ibid. , p. 205. The Jesuits were officially restored in 1814, but only in those countries 'in which the civil government consent to receive and recall them. Poynter maintained that Parliament did not consent. Eventually the Jesuits were formally reinstated in England in 1829. Ibid., pp. 205-19. Gandolphy was a successful missioner, firstly on the Isle of Wight and then at the Spanish Chapel. Poynter suspended him in 1816. Ibid. , p. 170.

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In 1817 he had gone even further and threatened to ignation as Vicar Apostolic of the London District Appeals against his resignation were sent to Rome bishops (except Milner), the London clergy and laity. His offer was not accepted in Rome .41

offer his resto the Pope. by the other the Catholic

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The Diaries provide a living picture of the steady growth of the Catholic Church in England in the first quarter of the 19th century. In 1814 Bishop Poynter had sent a minute return of the London Vicariate to Propaganda recording 78 chapels, 104 priests and 68,776 Catholics, of which London itself contained 12 chapels and the counties of Middlesex, Berkshire, Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Essex, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, Kent, Surrey, Sussex and the Islands of Guernsey and Jersey 66. 42 Over 60 Missions in the London District are mentioned in the Diaries, most of them visited by Bishop Poynter himself or by his Vicar Generals, with some details of the resident clergy, times of services, numbers of confirmations and even of their annual financial audit which was carried out personally by the Bishop. In 1824 a list of the Estimated Catholic Population in the London District was published, indicating that the population in the London Chapels was 107,000 and 20,000 in the '40 Chapels in country parts'. The numbers may well be exaggerated. In the Diaries Bishop Poynter records the opening and blessing of chapels at Hampstead, Chelsea and Horsham and the measurements of the new chapel of St Mary, Moorfields. Of all the chapels mentioned only those at Warwick Street, Hampstead and St George's Fields, now reconstructed after war damage as St George's Cathedral, survive for public worship today. Places of public worship in the London District and schools were published annually in the Laity's Directory . It would appear that Poynter used his diaries as an aide memoire for the appointments and granting of faculties and permissions to individual priests. That he sought constant advice in the administration of the District is clear from records of his regular meetings with a group of senior priests. Pastoral Letters were read before Lent each year and on occasions when matters of importance were drawn to the attention of all Catholics. His anxiety to provide a constant supply of priests for the District 41

Ibid., pp . 335-7. See Brady 3, pp. 187-91 , for these and other sta tistics.

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and for the illlSSlOns in the Colonies is reflected in details recorded of those offering themselves for the priesthood and his attention to their education at St Edmund's, Lisbon, Valladolid or the English College in Rome . His great concern for the education of children and for the poor are shown in the many references in the Diaries to the religious sisters at Hammersmith, Somers Town and New Hall, to the collection of funds for the Aged Poor Society and the Charitable Sisters (consisting of women who were not Religious, founded by Poynter himself) and for the schools for poor children attached to some missions (Chatham, Lambs Conduit, Somerstown, Poplar, Dartford, East Lane Bermondsey, Hammersmith, York Street, Lincoln's Inn Fields, Tottenham, Virginia St, Wapping) sometimes with details of the salaries paid to the teachers and the numbers of children attending. His report to Propaganda records that, two catholic schools have been instituted in the District, one with 741 boys, of whom 308 are clothed, and 18 orphans are entirely maintained. In the other school are 262 girls of whom 74 are clothed, and 6 orphans are entirely maintained.4 3

Almost every day entries in the Diaries record letters received and answered. The majority of letters were, apart from those to or from Propaganda, correspondence with Paul Macpherson, Roman agent for the English Vicars Apostolic and his successor Robert Gradwell, later rector of the English College in Rome, and with his Vicar Generals Joseph Hodgson, James Bramston and Francis Tuite. He and his staff at Castle Street were employed until late at night writing and copying letters. 9. Content of the Diaries The Diaries contain no references to William Poynter's family life apart from the sale of the Peters field family 'estate', and the bald statements of the death and burial of his brother James at Stanmore and of his nephew William's entry into the preparatory school at Sedgley Park. The closest he comes to revealing particulars of his personal life are references to the bouts of ill health that occasionally kept him confined to his room, and laundry lists of his everyday clothes - 'shirts, cravats (red and blue), handkerchiefs, socks, stockings and silk stockings, drawers, waistcoat, night shirt and night cap' - occasionally numbered and

Ibid. , p. 190.

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costed. He gives details also of his episcopal apparel and insignia purchased while he was in France - Mozetta etc (£285), cross and chain (£132), ring (£80) and pectoral cross (130 francs) . He was meticulous in entering his personal expenditure and that of the District, though nowhere in the Diaries is there any attempt to produce a full financial statement. Frequent mention is made of three of his successors as Vicars Apostolic of the London District: James Yorke Bramston (182736) and Thomas Griffiths (1836-47), who had been, like Poynter himself, Presidents of St Edmund's College, and one to Nicholas Wiseman (1849-50) who became the first Archbishop of Westminster; he is mentioned in the Diaries as one of the first batch of English students to travel to the English College in Rome in September 1818. There are many references to John Lingard's meetings and correspondence with Poynter, who arranged for the printing of his History of England and for his being granted a Doctorate. On one of Lingard's visits to London Poynter handed him copies of his own Epistola Apologetica (London 1820).44 However, it was only in 1827 that Poynter's Christianity: or, The evidences and characters of the Christian religion was published. His more popular Prayer Book, ' . . . recommended to the Use of Catholics serving in The Fleets and Armies of Great Britain', was published in 1821 and reprinted in 1826 by Keating and Brown. It relies heavily for its content on Challoner's Garden of the Soul, but includes prayers for 'those engaged in warfare in mortal danger': prayers 'Before an Engagement': 'If you have leisure to say the Preparation for Death, in the most fervent manner you can, then do your duty with courage and confidence in God, without whose will not a hair of your head can perish'. There are also 'Prayers in a Storm at Sea' and 'Prayers for a Departing Soul, and for the Burial of a Catholic'.45 His concern for the increasing numbers of Catholics serving in the navy or army is also demonstrated in the opening of the Catholic Chapel at Chelsea 'for the use by The Wounded and Disabled Soldiers' and his care in providing a chaplain to the 'hulks' in Gosport and Portsea, housing prisoners from the Napoleonic war. Reading the Diaries, one gets glimpses here and there of William Poynter's character - his meticulous recording of payments of money and the detailed accounts of faculties and permissions granted to priests of the District; his description of 44

Defending himself to Propaganda against the accusations of Bishop Milner. Copies of both 'Christianity' and 'Prayers for those serving in the Fleets and Armies of Great Britain' are in the museum of St Edmund's College.

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the countryside during his travels and especially of the earthquake experienced in Radicofani;46 his indignation at his treatment by Cardinal Somaglia in Rome: I asked his leave to hear confessions in Rome. He looked at us in surprise and asked whether we heard confessions in England .... He kept myself and Mr B standing in the door place between an antechamber & the sitting room without inviting me to sit down ... Consider how he who goes for the cause of Religion is treated by a Cardinal in Rome!47

There was also his insistence on borrowers recording what they had borrowed and adding their signature in the diary; his impatience with Dr Kimbell on relinquishing the Presidency of St Edmund's at. short notice without waiting on his successor, and his concern for the well-being of his priests and consulting them about appointments. Above all stands out his strict respect for the letter of the law. Obedience had been instilled into him from his formation at Douai. 10. Poynter's Death (1827)

Like Moses, Bishop Poynter was destined not to witness ' the promised land' - the realisation of Catholic Emancipation for which he had striven so long and so hard. In 1827 he presided at the Holy Week and Easter ceremonies at St Edmund's College as was his wont, but the next day was struck down by the internal complaint that had dogged him most of his life and was taken back to his house in Castle Street. After a short attempted convalescence in Cheltenham and Bath he returned to Holborn in easy stages and after prolonged suffering died on 26th November. 48 His Requiem and burial took place in the chapel of St Mary, Moorfields, which he had built, and he was buried in the vaults underneath. When that chapel was dismantled in 1899 his body was transferred to St Edmund's and reinterred in the chapel cloister with the inscription:

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Diaries, January 12, 1815. Diaries, January, 20-31 , 1815. A moving account oflus last days by Thomas Griffiths is recorded in Ward , 3, pp. 193-4.

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Gulielmo Poynter, Epo Hal et V.A.L. Hoc Marmor Co-adjutor, Clerusque Dolentes Posuere Obiit A.D . MDCCCXXVII. Aet. LXVI Nullam Diem Praetermisit Qua Non Aliqua Praeclara Fidei, Pietatis, Atque Innocentiae Argumenta Praestiterit49 His panegyric was preached by one of his former students at Douai and St Edmund's, Lewis Havard,5o who quoted a statement which had been made to him about Bishop Poynter by Bishop Milner, his most severe critic over many years . Milner's words are a fitting tribute to the esteem and admiration in which Bishop Poynter had been held: He entertained the most unbounded veneration for the virtues, piety and edifying character of Dr Poynter, and said that he would give the universe to possess half his merit in the sight of GOd. 51

11. Technical Notes

The Diaries which have survived are in full for the years 1815, 1817,1818,1819,1821,1822 and 1824, with only three entries for 1816 and two entries for 1820. They are now preserved in the archives of St Edmund's College, housed in the Westminster Diocesan Archives.52 Each Diary consists of a small lightly bound book in a fragile condition, each measuring 7.5 x 4.5 inches, providing 2 facing pages for each week. The left hand page is divided into 2 columns, the first entitled 'Appointments' with the day of the week and the date of the month in the margin; and the second 'Memorandums & Observations'. The right hand page is

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'His sorrowing co-adjutor and clergy set up this memorial to William Poynter, Bishop of Ha1ia and Vicar Apostolic of London. He died AD 1827, aged 66. He allowed no day to pass in which he did not show outstanding proof of Faith, Piety and Innocence'. Lewis Hava rd (1774-1858), one of the Douai 'trente-deux ', ordained at St Edm und 's, 1800, for the London District. He ta ught at St Edmund's for a time. Ward 3, p. 195. The reference is AAW/SEC, Series 15/2 & 3.

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divided under the headings 'Account of Cash', 'Received' and 'Paid' .53 The present transcript gives the entries for each day without any regard to the headings, following the practice of Bishop Poynter who did not strictly follow them. The original spelling has been followed throughout and also the abbreviations employed by Poynter, except where they have been expanded in translations which are given in square brackets [ ]. For punctuation Poynter most frequently used a dash; this has been altered in the transcript to make the entries more readable. The spelling of proper names is not always consistent in the Diaries. Many of the letters written or received by Poynter which are referred to in the Diaries are preserved, or copies of them, in the Westminster Archives. 54 Titles in the early 19th Century: 'mission' was the equivalent of the present 'parish', 'chapel' of the present 'church'; the English secular priests were entitled 'Mr' or 'Revd Mr' , the French emigre priests 'Abbe' or 'M. l' Abbe' . It is not always clear whether Poynter is referring to a priest or a layman when he uses 'Mr'. Where possible, names mentioned in the text are identified in the footnotes; for clergy, the lists provided in Bellenger and Fitzgerald-Lombard (see below) have been invaluable. For the many cardinals and bishops mentioned, use has been made of Cardinaux, Brady and Episcopat (see below). Money: Poynter was meticulous in listing payments, but it is not easy to keep track of the real sums involved. He used a variety of denominations, sometimes in the same entry. A napoleon was a gold coin equivalent to twenty francs which replaced the traditional louis while Napoleon was emperor; after 1795 the franc was a silver coin worth about lOd. He also used Roman crowns (worth about 4/6), florins and livres (Poynter valued this last variously, at 1 franc or 1 penny). 12. Abbreviations

AA W: Archives of the Archbishop of Westminster. SEC: Archives of St Edmund's College, housed in AAW.

The books were commerical publications, entitled The Complete Pocketbook; or Gentleman 's and Tradesman 's DAILY JOURNAL . .. They contained enough supplementary sections to qualify as mini-almanacs. AAW, A58-68.

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CRS : The Catholic Record Society. ECP: 'Estimated Catholic Population' of Missions in the London District in 1824. Anstruther: Anstruther, Godfrey, The Seminary Priests 4 vols . (1968-1977); vol. 4 covers the years 1716-1800. Bellenger, French clergy: Bellenger, Dominic Aidan, The French Exiled Clergy in the British Isles after 1789 (Downside 1986). Bellenger, English Priests: Bellenger, Dominic Aidan, English and Welsh Priests 1558-1800 (Downside 1984). Brady: Brady, W . Maziere, The Episcopal Succession in England, Scotland and Ireland A.D. 1400-1875 3 vols . (1876-7; repr. 1971). Cardinaux: Berton, C., Dictionnaire des Cardinaux (Paris 1857). DNB: The Dictionary of National Biography (Concise ed., Oxford 1992). Episcopat: Bannard, L. (ed.), L'Episcopat Franfais, Depuis Ie Concordat jusqu'a la Separation (1802 -1905) (Paris 1907).

Fitzgerald-Lombard, English Priests: Fitzgerald-Lombard, Charles, English and Welsh Priests 1801-1914 (Downside 1993). Gillow: Gillow, J., A Bibliographical Dictionary of the English Catholics 5 vols . (1885-1902). Kelly: Kelly, Bernard, Historical Notes on English Catholic Missions (1907; 1995 ed. by Michael Gandy) . Ward: Ward, Bernard, The Eve of Catholic Emancipation 180318293 vols. (1911-12). Vol.1 covers 1803-12; vol.2, 1812-20; vol.3 , 1820-29. Ward, St Edmund's: Ward, Bernard, The History of St Edmund's College (1893).

THE DIARIES 1815 [The Diary for the Year 1815 is prefaced by detailed notes relating to the interviews in Rome between Bishop Poynter (accompanied by Mr Bramston) and Cardinal Litta, Prefect of Propaganda, concerning controversial matters between Bishop Poynter, supported by the other English and Scottish Vicars Apostolic, and Bishop Milner, agent for the Irish Hierarchy.}

Complaints of Cardinal Litta 1. 5th resolution 55 unjustifiable in its circumstances. 2. Injustice of revenge . 3. Obnoxious clauses of bill consequences of 5th resolution. 4. The other V.A's (except Dr Milner) had approved of those clauses. 5. Several Eng Catholics went by that name. 6. The Cisalpine Club.56 7. Mr Butler. 57 8. My conduct relative to the nuns 58 - he gave a Theological lecture on the reading of scripture & a lecture against lay-Catholics. 9. Our acceptance of Quarantotti's letter. 59 10. Want of Romana fides . 11. Not inviting Dr Milner to our meeting. 12. Dr Murray60 complained of Bp Douglass about Trevaux. 61 13. Abbot of La Trappe 62 complaining of Dr Gibson.63

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Resolution of the Catholic Laity in 1810 seeking repeal of penalties imposed on Catholics; cf. Introduction, p. 9. The original title adopted by the Board of Catholic Laity. Charles Butler, lawyer for the Board. The accusation that Poynter had forbidden nuns to wear their habit in public; cf. Introduction , pp. 14- 15. Letter from the Vice-Prefect of Propaganda to the English Bishops in 1814 approving that they embrace the Bill of the previous year for emancipation. (G- B. Quarantotti became a cardinal in 1816; he died in 1820.) Coadjutor of Dublin. French priest suspected of supporting the Blanchardist Schism; cf. Introduction p. 11. The Trappists at Lulworth. V.A. of the Northern District.

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Reasons for complaining of him

Did not give me the sentences I called for over these charges of injustice & revenge. Endeavoured to make me & other V.A's out of order by approving the clauses of the late Bill. Consider [he] reproved me for conduct relative to the nuns before he had heard me. Backward in protecting the English Bishops whom he acknowledged to have been injured & favoured in support & protection of Dr Milner & the Irish who he acknowledged had injured us. Was willing to write a letter. Will not at present answer any of the disputed facts given to him, except by giving me a letter. Acknowledgements of Cardinal Litta

1. That the 5th resolution was innocent in itself. 2. That my answer to the charges of injustice was positive & that Dr Milner in his reply had not touched the points of the charge. 3. That we had nothing to do with the Veto. 4. That we did not approve the Clauses of the Bill. 5. That my conduct was regular & satisfactory for my calling for Instructions on the Bill. 6. That we are not responsible for what might be blameable in the rescript. 7. That the Irish Bishops had done wrong in censuring our 5th resolution. 8. That Dr Milner was chargeable for attacking our conduct, not to trust in his Pamphlets. 9. That Dr Milner had done wrong in attacking our Pastoral Instruction. 10. That Dr Milner was forced to go back to England. 11. That he had reprimanded Dr Milner. 12. That the Irish Bishops had done wrong in making him agent. [On a fly-leaf at the beginning of the Diary is a carefully written but undated set of points to do with the same issues.]

1. Quarantotti had full power to issue a Rescript: this was the 1st question proposed by the Canonists & Divines & they answered in the affirmative, from his faculties in writing. 2. The Cause was deliberately examined & the answer to the different questions proposed upon it were given in writing by the eminent Canonists & Theologians who were consulted . 3. The form of the letter differed in certain expressions from the language of the answers of the Canonists & from the style of Rome on these subjects. Certain terms were new.

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4. The letter was not subjected to the Inspection of these Canonists & Theologians before it was sent off to me, but the political letter was . 5. When we arrived in Rome we found a general cry against Quarantotti's Rescript. 6. It had been understood by those concerned in drawing up the Rescript that all the Catholics of England would have been banished who should have refused the clauses of the Bill. 7. Card. Litta said he had read all my letters, & that I did not assert any such thing. 8. Card. Litta acknowledged that my conduct was regular & satisfactory in calling for Instructions on the Bill for Emancipation: & in accepting & obeying the orders of the Rescript, which was sent as from a high authority to which we were subject. 9. Card. Litta acknowledges that we the Eng. V.A.s are not responsible for anything blameable in Q's Rescript: that must rest with those who drew it up . 10. It appears the general wish and most desirable that the Rescript should be no more spoken of. 11 . As the spirit of conciliation which that Rescript breathed, & which we could not but approve of, produced a happy effect, we urged the necessity of some other letter written in the same spirit. C. Pacca 64 told us that there was so good an understanding on the conditions of our Emancipation between Rome & the British Government, that if the cause did not now succeed it would be through the fault of the Catholics through a want of union & peaceable dispositions amongst themselves .

[The diary proper starts here with an account of Poynter 's journey to Rome.} January 1 From Parma to Reggio . At Parma said Mass in St Sepulchre' s[ ?} Church, saw different churches, the Cathedral, ceiling beautifully painted, subterranean chapel, in which the Canons celebrate office, 3 monthly in year. Curious Baptisterion, fine walk on the borders & ramparts. Parma a poor town, a great many beggars .

Bartolomeo Pacca (1756-1844), acting Papal Secretary of State.

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Inn, Post house very cheap. Saw Mr Borgo. Arrived at Reggio half past 4. Very superior to Parma, fine Cathedral, beautiful Episcopal Church. The country from Parma to Reggio very populous, vines running up the trees, near Castel St Giovani entered the Duchy of Parma. January 2

From Reggio to Bologna, through a very populous country indeed, from S. Ilario the road has been hedged with houses. Near S. Ilario entered the Dutchy [sic] of Modena. We breakfasted at Modena, a fine well built city. Magnificent palace, several good churches, good pictures and good streets. Arrived at Bologna about 5 oclock. The country covered with Elms, which serve as props for the vines and they say provide food for the numberless fine oxen employed in drawing carts & other purposes of agriculture . Great many seats of well built houses on the side of the road of this populous and rich country. At Castel Franco we entered on the territory belonging to the Legation of Bologna, now under the Govt. of Austria. January 3

At Bologna, a very fine city, we saw the Dome, the Basilica in which Cassini's painting was masked . The church of St Catherine of Bologna in which we saw and touched her body which is entire, flexible though exposed to the air. St Dominico is a well proportioned church in which the body of St Dominic is in a rich and exquisite shrine. The church of the Bamabites, painting over the choir of the conversion of St Paul. St Saviour, fine marble. Many fine palaces and princely houses. From Bologna to Pojoli, about 4 miles from Pianoro, up a very steep mountain. January 4

From Pojoli to Covigliaio we continued to ascend the Apenines by roads so very steep that besides our horses we were drawn by oxen; six mountains, we went ten miles in four hours & have been this day 11 hours in our carriage going about 30 miles, through a deep snow almost all the way. The ascent from Pianoro was about 40 miles up the Apenines. We passed by the Volcano of Petra Mala which we saw blazing. The ascent of the Apenines more steep in some places than that of the Alps, we were not aware of it. Between Filigare & Covigliaio we entered the Dominion of Tuscany.

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January 5

From Covigliaio to Florence, Deo Gratias. A most hard day's journey of nearly 40 miles in ten hours, snow very deep in places, road very slippery where no snow, up and down very steep hills, dreadfully steep. The passes of the Apenines much worse than that [sic] of the Alps - shorter indeed but more difficult. We were obliged to walk several miles down very steep hills & through snow; on the whole it may be said that we were going up and down hills crushed with snow almost from Bologna to Florence, nearly one hundred miles, often drawn by oxen & the roads too dangerous in their present state for us to ride in the carriage. January 6

Said Mass in the Church Spirito Santo. Saw the Cathedral encrusted with marble except in the front; the baptisterion near the Cathedral, fine bas relief on the doors. St Laurence beautiful altar & St Catherine's. Walked about the City, saw the Chev. Cicciaporci. January 7

Saw the Carmes Church, in which is the body of St Andrew Corsini; St Marco or Dominicans' in which is the body of St Antoninus; the Annunciata, a rich altar; the famous Royal Chapel in St Laurence's Church. The academy des beaux arts; painting; Ie travail des pierres dures et la mosaique & La Galleria de Florence. January 8

Said Mass in the Church Spir. Santo . Saw the Church of the Holy Cross, St Cajetano & St Philip Neri. The Palace & Gardens of the Pitti. Dined with Chev. Cicciaporci, Lord & Lady Bentinck, the Count & Countess of Baldelli, at the Chev. Cicciaporci's. January 9

From Florence to Poggibonzi a mountainous Road, steep hills, fine Country. At Poggibonzi was found a Castle, the walls of which are about one & a half miles in circumference. The country very populous. The country about Florence was wonderfully populous, houses all over the plain & particularly on the mountains. A great many beggars in Florence. In general we found the pe?ple in good condition, very few poor in the wine country,

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healthy & stout on the mountains, miserably looking at Parma, well looking at Reggio & Piacenza & Bologna. January 10

From Poggibonzi to Buon Convento, much up & down hill. We breakfasted at Sienna, saw the Cathedral, gothic outside, Corinthian inside, pulpit in which St Bernard preached. Beautiful Chapel of the BVM. Saw the church of St Augustine Novello, beautiful pictures. January 11

From Buon Convento to Radicofani a very rough & mountainous country, especially from Terrasini, hills as steep as any we have seen, we were drawn by 4 & 5 horses, Radicofani on the top of one of the highest mountains, the country in general not susceptible to cultivation, torn to pieces apparently by violent torrents, The people all through Tuscany extremely civil & a great appearance of Religion, in Churches as many men as women, all very attentive to their devotions, many young men as well behaved as the old. We found Dragoons at the Post houses from Buon Convento placed there by order of the Grand Duke to escort Travellers & defend them from Robbers. January 12

From Radicofani to Viterbo near 70 miles, through a wild, uncultivated, rocky, savage country, as far as Pontrecantano where we entered the Papal territory, road terrible, in the whole area we were shaken & beaten against the sides of the cabriolet & were very much fatigued . At Bolsena the country beautiful, vines, divers trees, beautiful lakes. From Bolsena to Montefiascone on the borders of the lakes through a wood almost all the way . Near Viterbo a sulphurous lake smoking. Viterbo a dirty town, we saw the body of St Rose of Viterbo & the house in which she was born, lived & died . At Radicofani about Midnight a strong Earthquake, a roof of a house in the town fell in, all the people got up and only we remained in bed; the people in the neighbouring village got up & remained from midnight round a great fire in the open air. The earthquake was felt as far away as 57 miles. January 13

From Viterbo to Baccano up a high mountain, a part of the Ganinas where we were amidst snow & descended round the borders of the lake to Ronciglione; a great part of the road very rough shaking our carriage much & beating our sides, from

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Monterari to Baccano on the Cassian road paved. We have found the people throughout Italy very polite & kind, the Inns especially in the country very good, but the people in general especially in the towns lounging without anything to do . January 14 From Baccano to Rome: the country for the most part quite uncultivated. Mr Macpherson 65 met us with a carriage about a mile from Rome. We went to the Scotch College, where apartments were furnished for us at the expense of the Pope & a carriage provided with a coachman; our Board also provided by his Holiness. January 15 We went out to see the Vatican, the Capitol, the Tarpeian Rock, Constantine Triumphal Arch, Titus' ditto, the Amphitheatre, the Forum & Column of Trajan. Rome appears miserable. Saw Mr Eustace.66 Journey from London to Rome ÂŁ197 .14s. January 16 We saw St Mary Major. Wrote to Dr Rigby .67 Saw Dr Conolly & Mr Silvertop.68 January 17 Saw St John Lateran, the Baptistery, the Sancta Scala, St Antony's Church. Hitherto we are ignorant of our object here . Drawn on Callaghan of Paris by Scultheis value of ÂŁ10 sterling, 44 Crowns. Given to Mr Bramston 44. January 18 Went to St Peter's, High Mass sung by Card Galeffi,69 the Pope assisting. Went to Card Litta, delivered letters to him, in conversation about 20 minutes. He received me & Mr B very civilly. I told him I was ready to explain everything about the District & our conduct & desired him to say anything that remained on his mind concerning the calumnies against me & my colleagues. He

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See note 31 above. John Chetwode Eustace (?l764-1 815), a priest of the Midland District who knew Rome well (Bell enger, English Priests). Vicar General in Castle Street. Senior member of the Ca tholic laity, from Ministeracres in Northumberland. Pierre-Franc,:ois Galeffi (1770-1 837), Bishop of Albano .

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will appoint a day to receive us. We called on the French Ambassador 7o & left letters, he being busy called on us. We dined with Mr Silvertop. January 19 Delivered letters. Saw St Martin, Spanish Major Domo; Mgr Mauri; Card Pacca; Mgr Gregorio, Bp of Lithosia. Received a letter from Mgr Doria appointing Monday for a presentation to the Pope. Card Litta called on us; Mr Rossi . Saw in evening Galeassj71 & Mr Silvertop. Called on Card Gabriella.1 2 January 20 Saw the Duke of Bedford, Card Brancadoro,73 Card Somaglia,74 Vicar Card Dagnani & Card Scotti. Called on Card Pietro, Ruffo & Saluzza. 75 Ld Wm Bentinck 76 called on us & spoke about General Matters. Drawn on Scultheis for 25 Rom Crown, paid Taylor 25, drawn 51, paid 51. [The following entry is placed at the beginning of the Diary marked 'Memorandums and Observations at the Beginning of the Year 1815'.} (1 an 20 - 31) Cardinal Somaglia much prejudiced against me, often visited by Dr Milner. His opinions concerning the power of the Pope in temporals, very confused from want of distinguishing between the direct objects of the two powers & spiritual from civil effects . He spoke so much of the necessity of attending to the Irish Bishops & People in the question of Emancipation & in so little regard to the English, that I told him that the meaning of

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Marquis d'Osmond. The lay minute-taking secretary of Propaganda. Cardinal Gabrielli (1748-1822), a very strong supporter of the papacy against Napoleon; many expected him to become the next pope but he died a year before Pius VII. Cardinal Brancadoro (1755-1837) Archbishop of Fermo. Secretary of the Holy Office and Bishop of Frascati (1744-1830). Cardinal Dagnani was presumably Antony Dugnani (1748-1818), Bishop of Porto; Scotti was presumably Cardinal Ga lleratti-Scotti (1747-1819); Pietro was Michele di Pietro (1747-1821), a strong supporter of Pius VII; Ruffo was either Fabrizio (1744-1827) or Luigi (1750-1 832), Archbishop of Naples; Saluzza was Sa1uzzo (1744-1816). Commanding Officer of Briti sh Forces in Sicily during the occupation 1811-14. His son voted for Catholic Emancipation in Parliament in 1829 (DNB).

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what he said was that the English Vicars Apostolic were to be sacrificed to Dr Milner & the Irish Bishops & the body of English Catholics to the advantage of Ireland. He has expressed his opinion, as we were informed, that there was neither Morality nor Religion among English Catholics, & I believe he said so. Mr B & I asked his leave to hear confessions of the English in Rome. He looked at us in surprise & asked whether we heard confessions in England. I left with him my Notanda concerning the Veto & went to ask him whether he could treat about the affair of our Emancipation, he said No. He told us to go after the Pope to Florence (Soyez tranquille si vous pouvez) that we might perhaps do something. I told him I had reason to complain of the treatment I had received from some Cardinals, of the manifest disposition in Rome to sacrifice the English Vicars Apostolic & Catholics to Mr M & the Irish. I complained that Justice was not done me when I had demonstrated the falsehood of Dr M 's charges. He kept myself & Mr B standing in the door place between an antechamber & the sitting room without inviting me to sit down or go into his sitting room tho there was nobody there . There was a servant in his antechamber. Consider how he who goes for the cause of Religion is treated by a Cardinal m Rome! January 21

Saw Card Litta from 11 to 1 about powers of Pope towards right of Kings, Irish Church, 5th resolution; explained subscription. Drawn on Scultheis 240. Paid to clothier 240. January 22

Called on Card Braschi. 77 Heard High Mass at Chapel of English College. Went with Mr Silvertop to see the Rotunda & St Peter's. January 23

About 11 Mr B & I with Mr Macpherson were introduced to the Pope who received us most kindly & affectionately. We then called at the Secretariat of the Card Vicar; went to Card Galeffi's who was not returned & went to Card Braschi's. Dined at Mr Silvertop's with Mr Weld.

Cardinal Braschi (1753-1817), nephew of Pius VI, sometime papal secretary.

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January 24

Saw Ld Wm Bentinck. Left Mr Bramston with Card Pacca; called at Card los & Ant Doria,78 & Corelli, saw Albani. Mr B saw Mr Dodwell; saw Fr Fontana & Lord Brownlow. 79 In evening saw Mgr Gregorio. January 25

Went to St Paul's extra muros; returning saw the Templum Vestae. I spent much time in conversation with Mgr Galeassi. Dined at the Duke of Bedford's with Lord Brownlow, Mr Eustace, Mr Silvertop. January 26

Went to Card Brancadoro with Mgr Testa, Pope's Secretary; saw Mgr Quarantotti, most respectable & good grace. Called Card Litta's, not at home. January 27

Prepared a Sketch of a Letter to Catholics. Went to Card Litta's, were with him above an hour. Saw Mgr Devoti, Mr St Martin, Major Domo of King of Spain. Dined at French Ambassador's, there saw Archbp of Corfino, Mgr de Gregorio . Litta much prejudiced. January 28

A very bad day, spent at home.8o January 29

Dined with Card Brancadoro. Saw Mr Silvertop. In evening Galeassi brought a copy of the letter to me. Weather bitter & cold & very uncomfortable.

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Cardinal Giuseppe Doria Pamphili (1751-1816), sometime Secretary of State, and Cardinal Antonio Doria Pamphili (1749-1821). Fr. Louis-Frans;ois Fontana (1750-1822) had been in France with Pope Pius VII and later became a key figure in Rome, becoming a cardinal in 1816 and Prefect of Propaganda in 1818; he was a strong supporter of Poynter against Milner (Ward 2, pp. 32-3; Cardinaux). John Cust became 2nd Baron Brownlow in 1815. Dr Poynter experienced severe stomach pains which kept him housebound, often for days.

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January 30 We saw Card Albani 81 & Lord Holland,82 with each of whom poor conversations. Called at Card Pignatelli's. Dined with Mr Silver top in company with Mr MacDonald, Mr Ward, Mr Hood, Mr Lloyd. January 31 Saw Card Dagnani,83 removed his notions concerning the difficulties. Saw Somaglia, appeared to be most prejudiced against Mr Milner most often. February 1 Mr Bramston ,went to Card Litta. Dined with Ld Brownlow. Card Pacca called in the evening & spent more than an hour with us . February 2 Remained at home in morning to prepare my answer to Litta's letter of 3rd July. Dined with Portuguese Minister. Began to employ J acconci. 84 February 3 Went to Card Litta with my answer to his letter of 31 July. Dined with the French Ambassador. Called & left cards at Mr McDonald's, Mr Davenport's & Lord Cunningham's. February 4 Went to French Chapel; went with French Ambassador to the Villa Medici, then with Mr Eustace to the Janaculum (sic) whence a fine view of Rome; to the Church of St Cecilia. February 5 I began the history of 5th resolution. Dr Conolly & Abbe Taylor dined with us. Galeassi came in the evening.

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Cardinal Giuseppe Albani (1750-1834). The 3rd Lord Holland (1773-1840), a politician of generally liberal tendencies and pro-Catholic sympathies. See note 75. An Italian lawyer employed by Poynter in Rome.

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February 6 Mr Bramston called to Card Pacca. I went to Card Litta, talked about answer to Dr Milner's accusation, on the result, on late Bil1. 85 Mr Bramston, Mr Clifford 86 & Sir Ed Stewart87 called in & returned with us. February 7 Stayed at home all day writing. Mr Silvertop came, and about 5 o'clock Pere Archangelo, a most sensible man, one of the Theologians who gave his opinion before Quarantotti's letter was written. Galeassi never shewed it to the Divines or Cardinals before it was sent, the other on temporal affairs. February 8 Worked at home, took an aIrmg for an hour. In evening saw Mgr Mauri 88 to consult him about a particular Congregation. February 9 Called Card Pietro, found him very kind, on Card Salezzo who was very civil,89 seemed not to have heard about our affairs. I gave him my answer to Litta. Called at Gabrielli's, not at home. Left cards at Ld Holland's, Duke of Woodford's. Saw Mr Orde. February 10 Called on Caraffa; went to Villa Borghese; saw Card Litta, interesting. Dined with French Ambassador, explained to Abbe Samlucy the affair of the Abbot of La Trappe concerning the prayers at Mass for the King.90

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The Catholic Relief Bill of 1813; see Ward 2, pp. 23-56. The Hon. Hugh Clifford, prominent Catholic layman and member of the Catholic Board. Charge d'affaires in Paris, related to Lord Castlereagh. Private Secretary to the Pope. See note 75. The Trappists at Lulworth had caused controversy by refusing to say the customary prayers for the king on Sundays, on the grounds that the king was a heretic. Bp Collingridge ordered them to do so. See Dockery, Collingridge, pp. 171-2.

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February 11 I remained at home all day, writing. Saw Lord Ebrington 91 & Mr Silvertop. Recd from Bp Conolly 50 crowns. Gave to Mr Bramston 50 crowns. February 12 Went to St John Lateran, heard Father Archangelo. Saw the church of St Martin, with the new subterranean church in which St Silvester held a Council. Bp Connelly & Abbe Taylor dined with us. [A lengthy note of explanation written under February 13.]

Mr Macpherson wrote to me at Florence that we were to drive directly to the Scotch College in Rome as none would be at the English College to receive you . When he met us about a mile from Rome, as we were going in the carriage, he said we were to lodge with him in the Scotch College, that Card Consalvi 92 had written to Card Pacca to say that he had received (or seen) a letter from a person of distinction in England, mentioning that the Pope had ordered apartments to be prepared for us in the English College & this preference shewn to us above Dr Milner would cause a schism; of course Card Pacca ordered the Scotch College to be our place of residence. We were certainly more comfortable in the Scotch than we should have been in the English College where there were no fire places, tho not comfortable in the Scotch. 93 Attempts were made, it was said by Card Litta, to get Dr Milner into the English College; it was told us that Braschi had twice refused him. Dr Gregorio told us that Dr Milner had himself applied to Braschi & that at last he was allowed to go there. Dr M did not pay us a visit till he had entered the E College. The day after he called upon us at the Scotch College & the day after we returned the visit to him at the English College. This altogether had a strange appearance. I mentioned it to Card Pacca, who in explaining it made no reference to a letter from Card Consalvi, but said that the Scotch College being under his protection & on the Quirinal Hill near the Pope, he had thought it more convenient for us to be there. See his answer, [it] was found out a little before we left Rome that the expenses of our 91

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Parliamentary member for Tavistock. A lay cardinal, Secretary of Sta te. He was a good friend of Poynter and of the British government. It would appear that it riled Poynter that Milner had succeeded in obtaining residence in the English College.

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Board, Carriage & Servant were taken out of a sum due from the Pope's government to the English College. February 13 Called on Card Pietro at 10 o'clock, on Card Oppizzoni94 & Card Litta to whom I gave a short account of the proceedings in Parliament with regard to the late Bill. Father Archangelo & Galeassi dined with us . February 14 Staid at home all day to prepare statement for Card Litta. French Ambassador called. February 15 Employed in morning on finishing Statement. I visited the churches of St Agnes & St Constantia extra muros. February 16 Went to St Sebastian's Church extra muros, saw the Cimitry of St Callistus, went into the Catacombs as far as St Philip of Neri's cell. Saw the Sepulchre Monument of Cecilia Metella, the church of St Cesarius. Dom Lorenzo went with us & dined with us . February 17 Called on, but did not see, the Archbp Mgr Devoti, Mgr Jassoni, Bp of Orthosia, Mr Ward. Went to the Villa Albani. February 18 Dined with the Fr Ambassador. Went first to the top of the tower of the Capitol. Sent letter to Card Litta. February 19 Went to St John Lateran for sermon & High Mass . Saw the church of St Prixedes & of St Prudentiana. I went to Card Litta's & left my Statement of our public Catholic affairs. Went to see St Peter's by moonlight.

Cardinal Oppizoni (1769-1855) , Archbishop of Bologna. Poynter obviously had problems with the name - see 25 Feb. and 18 April - and even Cardinaux spells it in two different ways.

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[Another lengthy note, positioned under February 20.}

Mr Macpherson said a little before we left Rome, that he took displeasure at something we said the very day or day after our arrival. He introduced us to most of the Cardinals & to the Pope & then left us entirely to ourselves. He was displeased at my telling Card Albani that I was not come to defend this rescript. At our first interview with Card Litta we had excluded Mr Macp in our future interviews with him, signifying that it was on account of Mr Macpherson having misstated his words . It appeared by a conversation with Card Litta at Viterbo or Genoa, that Mr Macpherson had been called before the Secretary of State. Card Pacca was made to sign a declaration that Card Litta had not said that no alteration would be made in Quarantotti's rescript; contrary to what Mr Macpherson had declared in his letters to me & Bp Gibson. Mr Macpherson rendered us no assistance at all, except by translating a few things into Italian. We were quite in the dark for a fortnight or three weeks, ignorant for what purpose we were called to Rome 95 . He could not tell us. At last we found enough to do with Card Litta. But Mr Macpherson to whom we communicated everything gave us no direction how to proceed with those Romans, & in what manner business was to be done. After about a month he said we should never do without an avocato. He recommended Jacconci. After we had accepted him, Mr Macpherson told us that we must not let it be known that we employed him, for that he was not in good repute with many on account of something when the French were in Rome, however that Mgr de Gregorio employed him. He advised me to go for advice to Mgr M & after I had been with him, told us of some heavy charge that had been brought against him. Mr Macpherson at least from the beginning of Lent left us to ourselves at breakfast & supper, saluting us generally for the first & last time at dinner. He was taken up with affairs of his own, but left us entirely to ourselves. We could not account for this conduct. A little before we left Rome Mr B spoke to him about it. He said we had not followed his advice. At the beginning (what we do not know) that if we had, our affairs would have gone on better, & that with the advice of his friends, even of those who generally dined with us on a Sunday, he had left us to ourselves, so we were abandoned to Italian Tricks without help . For business we had not one adviser in Rome on whom we could depend amongst the Italians. 95

Macpherson had written, 'Bring Mr Bramston with you. There will be work enough for you both'; cf. Introduction, p. 12.

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February 20 Went to the Pope at 11 o'clock, was with him three quarters of an hour. See an account of conference. 96 Went to St Clement's Church. The rest of the day at work. I left with the Pope a copy of my letter delivered to Card Litta on Sunday. February 21 Called on Mr Eustace, left cards at Mr Clifford's & Mr Dodwell's, went to Card Litta. He expressed his satisfaction at the letter I left with him on Sunday, I gave him my Notanda with a copy of my Pastoral Nov 17 1813 & extracts from the Durham meeting Nov 1813. 97 We went to the French Ambassador in the evening walked to St Bibiana's Church. February 22 Called on Mr Eustace, left card at Lord Ebrington, went to Card Litta, gave him an additional clause about the testimony of Bishops & of the project for the change of the laws respecting Catholic marriages & Catholic soldiers & sailors. Dined with Sir Ed Blount98 & Mr Clifford. Saw Mr Silvertop. February 23 Worked at home. Dined with Hon . Mr Ward in company with Lord Brownlow, Mr Orde, Sir Ed Blount, Mr Clifford, Mr Silvertop, Mr Standish. February 24 Dined with Fr Ambassador after vlsltmg the Villa Mattai. Worked at home a great part of morning. Dr Milner called & sat about twenty minutes, appeared much altered, low in spirits. Did not say a word about any business or subject why either of us are in Rome. Spoke only of indifferent things. February 25 Saw Card Brancadoro gave him a copy of my statement to Card Litta. Saw Card Appazzoni & saw him read it. Saw Dr Milner at the English College for ten minutes, no business at all, only talked about architecture, & went to St Peter's after leaving a card at Mgr Gregorio's .

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This is in AAW/SEC, Series 14. See Introduction, p. 10. Secretary of the Catholic Board.

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February 26 At two Sir Ed Blount. Heard sermon at Ara Coeli. Went to St Laurence's & to Fr Archangelo's. February 27 Saw Mgr Gregorio & Brancadoro, Card Somaglia & Card Litta. Gave Somaglia notanda. February 28 We were introduced to the King & Queen of Spain. Saw Card Litta & gave him a copy of Mr Bramston's explanatory note on my letter to Card Litta. Recd a letter from Card Consalvi from Vienna. March 1 Saw Card Pietro . Went to Ara Coeli to hear the Preacher. Went to Tre Fontane, St Paul's extra muros, to King of Spain's Villa on Mount Aventin. Recd letters from Bp Collingridge, Abbe Campbell, Mgr Mauri & a parcel without a letter from Mr Hodgson99, containing Orthodox Journal, for Dr Gandolphyloo. At 9 saw Card Pacca; he said I came to Scotch College by Mr Macpherson because it was nearer the Quirinial Palace & more convenient, he hoped, because he was the Protector of the Scotch College. Gave Card Pacca a copy of my letter of 18 Feb to Card Litta. March 2 I saw Card Litta & read to him Bp Collingridge's letter; he was struck with it, but not as he ought to be. Saw Mgr Gregorio, left with him my answer to Litta & Notanda. I answd Card Consalvi & thanked Card Pacca. March 3 Dined with Fr Ambassador. Called on Card Brancadoro. Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson dated Jan 27 mentioning death of Dr Rigby.

Joseph Hodgson, vice-president of Douai , imprisoned at the Revolution. Served at St George's Fields before becoming Vicar General at Castle Street. Died 1821 (Bellenger, English Priests). 100 Poynter had unsuccessfully demanded Peter Gandolphy to withdraw his books from publication; cf. Introduction, p. 15.

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March 4 I staid at home.

March 5 Went to St Ignatius Church to High Mass after seeing the SS Apostles. Mr Clifford called. Father Archangelo & Mgr Galeassi dined with us . Went after dinner out of Porta Pia. Drawn on Scultheis 40 crowns. Given Mr Bramston 40 .

March 6 Worked all the morning. After dinner went to Mons Sacer, as celebrated as the spot where Lord G . Gordon's mob assembled. l01

March 7 Went to Mgr Frosine, saw there Avoc. Fea who gave us copies of his publication. Went to the Minerva Church, to St Bartholomew's, to St John of God, the Ripa Grande, Monks Garden, returned home & worked before & after dinner.

March 8 J acconci came & read over the papers I had prepared; took them with him. We went to St Sabina, saw that ancient Basilica for an hour, peeped at Cacus' Den 102 returned home & worked after dinner. Wrote to Mr Hodgson.

March 9 Went to Frascati. Saw there Villa Taverna, Villa Conti or Ludovici, it rained very hard. We went through Marino a beautiful drive by Grotta Ferrata & Castel Gandolfo where we saw the Pope's Palace, to Albano, saw the Cathedral. Dined there & returned home.

March 10 Saw the church of St Maria de Cappedinis, St Mary of Egypt with various forms of the Holy Sepulchre, St Maria in Campitelli. Visited Major Domo of King of Spain. Called at Litta's. Went to

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St Peter's. Saw the Pope there. Dined with French Ambassador. Recd news of death of Mr Chamberlayne 103 & of Mr Green 104 , & of Mr MacDI05 not being appointed . March 11 Called on Litta; he began by a very brisk attack on me for ordering the nuns to change their habits,106 but he did not know what the order was, letters had been recd from England by other hands; we explained it. I gave him Gandolphy's letter, he made light of it, he spoke of the noise it had raised. We said that certain agents of Bp Milner would make a noise at everything; we spoke strongly to him of the effects of their supporting the Irish in opposition to English. Letter from Mr Hodgson. March 12 Went to Papal Chapel. Father Archangelo, Mgr Gayar, Bp Elect of S Irene in the Archipelago & Mgr Galeassi dined with us. Dated Feb 10, announcing deaths of Mr Chamberlayne, Stephen Green & Mr Bloodworth. 107 March 13 Saw Mgr Mauri, to see him again tomorrow. Sent to Card Litta an English & Latin letter on nuns with Gandolphy letter. Called on Scultheis (drawn 40 crowns, given to Mr Bramston 20, Recd from Mr B the tin case given to [?J with ÂŁ20) & on Mr Eustace, who said Card Litta might start the affair about our Emancipation, that it might be long before Consalvi returned 108 . We went to the Pope's Chapel to assist at the Mass for his Election. I wrote to Mauri, see the copy. Mr Macpherson told us

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George Chamberlayne, member of staff at Castle Street. Stephen Green (1772-1815), who had been recommended as rector of the English College in Rome. Possibly Rev. Alex. Macdonnel first RC Chaplain in the British army. Appointed Bishop of Kingston, Canada, 1820. See Introduction, p. 14. Thomas Bloodworth of the Northern District, educated at Valladolid. Ordained 178l. (The last sentence of this entry would seem to refer to Hodgson's letter of the previous day.) Cardinal Consalvi had visited England in June 1814 and had discussed the issue of emancipation with Castlereagh, among others; in 1815 he was in Vienna for the Peace Congress.

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what Berni had said. Went to Fr Ambassador & Queen of lturia 109 in evening. March 14 Saw Mgr Mauri, who said Card Consalvi had written that nothing should be done relating to Emancipation till his return. He read the abstract of my charges against Dr Milner & Dr Collingridge's letter. Saw Card Pacca. March 15 Jacconci brought my letter on 5th Resolution & answer to Dr Milner's Encyclical. We went to Palace of Doria, to Villa Borghesi. Mr Stewart from Vienna called. IIO Mr Macpherson explained Berni's answer. I signed the letter dated this day to Card Litta. March 16 Delivered to Card Litta a translation of Bp Collingridge's letter 10 Jan 1815, & copy of the letter signed by V.V.Eps 22 May 1812, my long history of 5th Resol with refutation of Bp Milner's Encyclical. Sent to Card Litta copy of Mr Butler's letter to Pope at Durham, Aug 13 1811, & a copy of his letter to Catholic Gentlemen. I 11 We left cards at Mr Cooke's.1l2 March 17 Saw Mr Cooke in the morning. Went to Brancadoro. Dined with Fr Ambassador where we again met Mr Cooke, very low with news 1l3 . Went [to] Brancadoro, gave him explanation of my conduct with nuns & translation of Bp Collingridge's letter. Saw the Archbp of Naples. Received two letters from Mr Hodgson, one of 17th the other of 21 st.

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The reference is unclear but possibly refers to the short-lived kingdom of Etruria (Tuscany) set up by Napoleon in 1801; by the time of Poynter's visit it had returned to being a Grand Duchy. Possibly Charles William Stewart, later 3rd Marquis of Londonderry; ambassador to Vienna 1814-15; pro-Catholic in Parliament. The V.As had met in Durham in 1811 and passed a number of resolutions condemning the actions of Milner and the Irish bishops (see Ward 1, pp. 167-70, 256-62); Charles Butler had written to defend himself against Milner's attacks on him. Under-Secretary at the Foreign Office, despatched to Rome to seek Papal support against Napoleon. News of Napoleon's escape from Elba. The Pope left Rome 5 days later.

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March 18 Went to Card Pacca. He mentioned Mr Cooke & we went to Card Litta, who was more gracious & reasonable. I delivered to him a letter of that date . Mr B. March 19 Went to Pope's Chapel, received a Palm from his hands. March 20 Had an audience with the Pope. Went to Mr Cooke. Recd a letter from Bp Collingridge dated Feb.13 . Mr Silvertop called. Answered Bp Collingridge's letters. Wrote to Card Pacca to thank him for the Cappa. March 21 Went to Pope's Chapel, the anniversary of his Coronation in 1800. Called on Mauri; sent to Galeassi the final Quesita I had prepared. Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson dated Feb 24 containing an account to Dr Murray's report to the Irish. Wrote to Bp Collingridge. March 22 Mr Silvertop called, Mr Cooke called, we made our observations on the Bill. I lent him to read a copy of my letter on Emancipation to Litta; sent him the document referred to. The Pope, Card Pacca & Mauri went from Rome to Viterbo . March 23 Said Mass . Went to Card Litta's, left my Quesita to be sent after him. Went to the Vatican, saw the Galleries. Took leave of St Peter's. Mr Cooke said the person to treat with [was] Pietro; went to Pietro, he had no power. I shewed him a copy of the faculties we wanted, he sent us to Quarantotti. Went to Card Somaglia. Went to Mr Cooke who told us to stay in Rome till he gave us an answer the next day. Drawn of Scultheis 35 crowns. Paid for Rochetes 35. Drawn on Scultheis for 40 crowns. Given to Mr B 40. Drawn of Scultheis 120. Paid Jacconci for Mr Smelt 24, for copying & fees 96. From De Souza 40 crowns, drawn from Scultheis 100. Given to Mr B 100. Letter of Credit Florence for 395:30 crowns. March 24 Mr Cooke sent a note that Pietro had no powers to treat with him. We seeing we could do nothing in Rome & that the Pope

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would probably be there on Saturday prepared to go to Viterbo with a hope of seeing the Pope & Litta. March 25 We left Rome & went to Ronciglione, where we slept. We there learnt that the Pope left Viterbo on Thursday, it was told us that he is at Aquapendente. We met Card Albani. March 26 Said Mass at Ronciglione. Went to Viterbo, called on Litta & the Fr Ambassador, dined with them at the house of Zelli, the Archbp of Florence, Bp of Senez & Mgr Delegato were there. Our conversation with Litta more effectual than all the others. We met Dr Milner in the streets of Viterbo. Card Litta said he would order him not to go to England . March 27 Said Mass. Went to the Cathedral of Viterbo & heard High Mass. Went to see the sulphurous lake. Visited the Portuguese Minister & the Delegato Mgr Capelletti. March 28 Said Mass. Went to the Delegato & Portuguese Minister. Left Viterbo about half past one. We went into the town of Montefiascone, poor Cathedral; saw the old Cathedral out of the town in which the Bishop was buried with the Epitaph 'Est, Est Est propter nimium Est & mortuus est.' 114 We arrived at Bolsena about 8 o'clock. March 29 We went from Bolsena over Radicofani to Riccio. We were much troubled to find horses, there was a body of Tuscan troops just arrived. On Wednesday in Holy Week the Pope left Rome & reached Viterbo late in the evening. He gave his blessing to the people from the Governor's Balcony on Thursday morning; Thursday evening he was at Aquapendente. On Friday evening he slept at St Quirico, on Saturday evening he arrived at Florence. On Wednesday he left Florence, arrived at Pisa where he staid a very short time. Went to Leghorn where he remained till Friday evening. He then returned to Pisa, left Pisa at 7 on Saturday morning to go to Genoa. 114

'Bishop Est drank too much est and is dead'; the Latin puns are lost in translation.

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March 30 We went from Riccio to Sienna, the roads good, the weather very fine . We heard at Buoncovento that the Pope was gone from Florence. March 31 From Sienna to St Casciano through a beautiful country at this season, fine roads ... [sic] various reports about the place to which the Pope is gone. April 1 From St Casciano to Florence. Saw Chevr Cissiaporci, Mr Silvertop. Went. to Lord Bathurst, heard of Bonaparte's entrance into Paris. French Ambassador in the same Inn, he called upon us. April 2 Went to Lord Bathurst at half past 11 , had an hour's conversation with him. Dined with him. Called on Cicciaporci. Said Mass at S. Spirito. French Ambassador called on us again. Recd of Morelli Giurtini of Florence ÂŁ56 value of 95 crowns 30 & a Credit on Sig. Gio . Gdo . [sic] Banca of Genoa, on S. Mirabaud, Milan, for 300 Roman Crowns. Given to Mr B. April 3 Said Mass at S Spirito . Salvietti called & brought bill; Card Baldelli called & Cicciaporci, very low, displeased at some[thing]. Set off with Veturino towards Pisa & went through a very rich & most beautiful country to Ponte Elsa about 22 miles from Florence. April 4 We set off from Ponte Elsa & went through a delightful country to Pisa, situated on the banks of the Arno. We saw the Cathedral,the Baptisterion, the Campo Santo & went to the top of the inclined tower. Mr Francesco A vinni was extremely kind to us. Drawn on Wright 1l5 for ÂŁ20 = 4782 livres at 37 to order of Salvietti of Florence. Salvietti letter of Credit on I Gerard Banca Genoa for 4872 livres.

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April 5 We went to Leghorn, dined with Mr Campbell. A small town but well inhabited, the people industrious. All in distress & uncertainty on account of the state of affairs . April 6 From Pisa to Sarzana through Lucca a rich town & after Lucca through a most delightful country abounding with corn & large forests of obve trees . At Lavagna one wheel broke without any accident to us. We came on to Sarzanna in a curatella & left the servant to bring on the carriage. April 7 From Sarzanna to Levante we took a felucca 11 6 at Lerice & had a most pleasant passage about 25 miles to Levante in the Mediterranean, a very clean, pretty village, the people looking clean & healthy. We sailed near the coast. The rough mountains planted with vines & covered with houses & here & there with villages presented a fine prospect. The people were in consternation on account of the state of affairs . April 8 From Levante to Camogli, a little port. The passage became more & more pleasant, the shore being lined with villages . We put into a little nook Porto Fino to take some refreshments. April 9 Said Mass at Camogli, a very elegant Parish church on a rock & sailed about 9, most pleasant, shore lined with houses & villages, view of Genoa beautiful. Arrived about 1 o'clock at Genoa. April 10 Went to Card Pacca who said that our affairs might now be attended to because the Cardinals had nothing to do . Then to Card Litta who said that nothing could be done. Much conversation with Litta, very different from his last conversation at Viterbo . Dr Milner was in his antechamber. Went to the Spanish Ambassador, to Police for Passport & to Lady Bentinck.

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A small Mediterranean sailing boat..

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April 11 Dr Milner left Genoa to England. Had an audience with Card Pacca, then with the Pope. Then saw Card Carriaculo l17 & Card Spina Archbp of Genoa & Mgr Mauri. April 12 Saw Card Dagnani. Went to Litta, he said Dr Milner was gone without any papers, dissatisfied. He took the faculties I received from Pietro & said he would speak to his Holiness to have them extended. He said Dr M wished to have a Coadjutor & probably would have one. He advised me to speak to Pietro about abstinence on Saturday, he objected to the general dispensation. We saw BrancadorQ in the evening, he had not spoken to Litta as he had said he would. April 13 I remained at home rather indisposed. April 14 Card Litta called, brought an extension of certain faculties; had a long conversation. We called on Card Mattai l18 & on Father Fontana. Litta said a paper should be given us, that he would give instructions about it to Pere Fontana. April 15 Went to Lord Wm Bentinck in the evening, he advised us to be off soon; he was very attentive & open to us. The 300 Roman Crowns taken of Banca of Genoa, vide Ap 2. Yield of Banca the remainder of the value of the above 300 Roman Crowns-1871[?]. April 16 At 1 I saw Ld Wm Bentinck, he repeated the necessity of being off soon, said he would speak to Card Pacca tomorrow to have our business expedited. Went to Fr Ambassador, much changed in appearance. Dined at Lord Bentinck's, Lord Lucan at dinner.

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Presumably Cardinal Caracciolo (1759-1820), Bishop of Palestrina. Cardinal Alessandro Mattei (1744-1820), Archbishop of Ostia and doyen of the College of Cardinals.

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April 17 Staid at home all day expecting Lord Wm Bentinck according to appointment. Recd a note in evening to say he would call upon us in the morning of Tuesday. April 18 Lord Wm Bentinck called & told us to speak to Card Pacca, Pacca not at home, if that had no effect, he would employ another means. We called on Litta; he said a Congregation l 19 would be held on Thursday on our affair. We called on Brancadoro, where we saw Card Appizzoni . Walked to the gardens. April 19 Called on Prussian Minister; called on Mgr Mauri, he told us we are invited to dine with Card Pacca . Had a good walk to the lighthouse. April 20 Called on Lord Malpas. 12o Went to Banker, took up the remainder of 300 Rom. crowns. Left a card at Card Gabrielli's. A Congregation was held on our affair, Emancipation. April 21 Dined with Mgr Mauri & other Prelates & the household of his Holiness at the Palace where his Holiness resides. April 22 Called on Mgr Mauri, on Lord Wm Bentinck. Saw Litta who said that the answer for us was preparing, that it would be read at a Congregation on Monday, that I should hear from him about it on Monday . Call on Brancadoro. Went to Banker & took up a credit in Milan. I had an audience with the Pope at 7 & gave him my letter to Litta on 18th & explained O'Conor's case. 121 Recd of Banca of Genoa a letter of Credit on Pierre & Freres Marrietti of Milan for value of the sum of 4823 livres pour bank monnaye de Genoa, 1 per cent commission deducted. J J9 120

J2 1

An official meeting of Cardinals. The courtesy title of George Cholmondeley (1792-1870), later summoned to Parliament as Lord Newburgh (1822); he succeeded as 2nd Marquis of Cholmondeley in 1827 (Complete Peerage) . Rev. Charles O'Conor had been suspended by Bishop Poynter over doctrinal teaching in his work Columbanus. He was reconciled in 1824. See note 383 below.

APRIL 1815

April 23 Said Mass in St Marcellina. Staid at home the rest of the day. April 24 Went to Card Litta. He said he had shewn the letter prepared to the Pope, that I should have it tonight, was gracious. Went to Brancadoro; to the Portuguese Ambassador. Recd a note from Mgr Mauri in evening saying that the Pope had inspected the letter himself, that he & Mauri had carried it to Card Litta, that we should have it tomorrow. April 25 Staid at home expecting the letter from Card Litta. Mgr Mauri came in evening, said 3 copies were to be taken, one for me one for Dr Troy122 & one for Dr Milner. He expressed his astonishment at Dr Milner's conduct especially at his attaching himself to the Irish, felt the danger of seeming to countenance the popularity in Ireland. Invited us to dinner with Card Pacca tomorrow . April 26 Kept at home for Litta's letter; at 5 I called on Litta, he said I should have it this evening. Saw Pacca & left with him copy of my letter to Litta about Mr Bramston. Saw Mauri, left with him O'Conor's letter. At 7 presented Lord Malpas to the Pope, then at a particular audience presented my petition for Mr B to be Coadjutor; recd the expected letter from Card Litta. 123 Given to Mr B 6 Nap. April 27 Wrote an answer to Card Litta acknowledging receipt of his letter; to the Pope a farewell letter; called on Card Litta, he called at our lodging soon after. We dined at the Palace of the Pope with Card Pacca, Card Brancadoro there. We visited Card Mattai, Brancadoro, Appizzoni, Spina, Dagnani. We left cards at 2 Dorias, Scotti, Saluzzo, Braschi, Gabrielli, Carelli. Called on French Ambassador, Portuguese Ambass. Card Litta called in

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Archbishop of Dublin. The very controversial 'Genoese Letter' that dealt with questions of the oath of allegiance that English Catholics might be allowed to take and of the powers of veto that might be allowed to the British government over the appointment of bishops. Bishop Milner and the Irish Bishops objected vociferously to these 'concessions' and started a long-running debate; see Ward 2, pp . 135-54, 326-33.

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evening & gave me 2 copies to be sent in the Post, one for Dr Troy, the other for Dr Milner. April 28 Called on the Pope at 10 o'clock. Read to him & gave him my letter. He gave me his blessing for myself & District & he gave me leave to bless the Holy Oils privately this year. We called on Mgr Mauri & Card Pacca. Went to the house of Lord Bentinck & read him the letter with which he was very much satisfied. We left Genoa at 2 o'clock & went to Voltaggio , ascending the Apennines, to the very top for 7 miles, then descending as many. Given to Mr B 30. April 29 We went from Voltaggio to Pavia. The road as far as Novi very hilly & rough indeed, from Novi to Pavia level ground; the scenery of the Apennines most beautiful, the country well cultivated. We crossed the Po & the Ticino before we entered Pavia. April 30 Said Mass in church of Gesu, visited the Dome 124 in which the remains of St Augustine are now. We left Pavia about 12, called at the famous Chartreuse, most beautiful church. Came by a very pleasant zone to Milan. May 1 Said Mass at St Alexander's; saw the Cathedral, walked about the city. Called on Bankers & saw St Mary & St Celsa. After dinner walked on ramparts from the gate by St Celsus to the Eastern gate. Given to Mr B 15 Nap . Repaid Banker 2. Of Bill of Credit on Marietti of Milan for 4823:15 Genois reed value of 2432:15 100 Nap & a letter of Credit for 2390:5 on Carti J F Augsbourg & Betmann Transport. May 2 Said Mass over the body of St Charles, saw his body, took choc with Mgr Litta. Went to the top of the Dome, called on Count, went to the Mint; sawall the works, very curious & great order of regularity. After dinner walked on the ramparts, returned by St Laurence's Church.

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The duomo or cathedral; the remains of St Augustine are not there but in the ancient church of San Pietro.

MAy 1815

May 3 Said Mass at St Alexander's; went to the Cathedral for High Mass, Ambrosian rite. Saw the sacred nail let down by a machine representing a cloud, then placed on the altar, it is enclosed in Crystal in a rich Cross. After Mass procession. We went to the Hospital of St Ambrose, to St Victor. Wrote to Mr Hodgson & Mr Jerningham. May 4 From Milan to Chiary, through a very rich & beautiful country, watered with a great variety of streams. In Chiary there are 16,000 inhabitants & 8,000 are employed in silk manufacture. Given to Mr B 7, Nap. May 5 From Chiary to Verona. We arrived at Brescia at 8, saw in the dome two thorns of a large piece of the + of our Saviour. We passed through a rich & beautiful country by the lake of Garda. May 6 From Verona to Padua. We walked about Verona in the morning, saw the Dome, hitherto entire. King of Spain & court in Verona. We passed through a garden of a country all the way. We saw the Dome at Vincenza, the mountains all about it beautifully clothed. Given Leger 1. Given Mr B 12. May 7 Said Mass in the church & on the altar & over the body of St Antony of Padua. Saw the church of St Juliana & the dome; saw the tongue of St Antony incorrupt. Went from Padua to Mestre, great part of the way with a river one side & many palaces & well built houses on the other. A most beautiful drive in the whole. Given to Mr B 10. May 8 We passed over in a Gondola from Mestre to Venice, a pleasant morning. The Grand Duke John was there, had received the Oath of Fidelity of the city yesterday.125 The shops in the town were ingeniously ornamented, with their respective articles of trade. We saw St Mark's Church, in which his body is preserved, the Colours of the Government Palace, several churches, St George.

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The Grand Duke lohn of Austria: Napoleon had gi ven Venice to the Austri ans.

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May 9

Paid 9.126 We went up the tower of St George's Square, from which a fine view of the town, Isles of the Adriatic. We went out in a Gondola & saw the Archduke John embark, several gondolas ornamented in a tawdry manner, in the whole a pretty aquatic exhibition. We saw the churches of the Jesuote, the Jesuits, fine reliefs in the Sodality, the Church of St John & Paul in which the Popes were buried & the apartments of the Palace. We returned in a Port Gondola to Mestre. Leger 1 Nap . Mr B 1. Here finishes the money drawn for on Callaghan. May 10

Paid 38. From Mestre to Bassano through Traviso, Bassano situated at the foot of a chain of mountains that naturally divide Germany from Italy. A romantic situation. May 11

Paid 60. We came from Bassano to Pergini, all the way between the Alpine mountains that separate Germany from Italy, the most delightful journey we have had, immense population, continued villages, great industry, high cultivation, variety of scenery, wild, rich & beautiful particularly near Pergini. About 3 miles after Primolano began the Southern Tyrol which under the Venetians extended to the first Post after Trent where we entered the Austrian Tyrol, a well populated, well cultivated, religious & happy country. Of the 100 Nap taken up in Milan, given to Leger 2, given to Mr B 18. May 12

Paid 50. From Pergini to Botzen, we breakfasted at Trent & saw the Church in which the Council was held. A very long & steep descent into Trent. The valley between the mountains on the banks of the Adige most rich & picturesque, the people laborious, as we advanced to Botzen, villages & churches now in view, the mountains cultivated & all alive to the tops. Most beautiful church at Botzen. May 13

Paid 50. From Botzen (or Bolsano) to Brixen, between mountains, on the banks of the Eisack all the way, mountains beautifully cultivated, the scenery opening as we approached to Brixen. 126

Records of money (in Napoleons) spent on each stage of the journey from Venice to London are recorded in the diary.

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1815

People apparently very good & religious, everything very edifying in their behaviou r in churches. The dress of old fashioned people (of the greatest number we have seen are such) very curious, hats, waistcoats & of every colour. May 14 Paid 36. Spent this day, Whit Sunday, at Brixen, said Mass in the Cathedral, were at High Mass & Benediction. The Bp too infirm to be seen, the people very edifying in churches & extremely becoming in their whole behaviour. We called at the house called Dames Anglaises, because founded by an English Lady (Ward) all German of the same Institute as York, 127 were dependent on Munic, but that house is now united to a house in Ausbourgh . The General is dead & no other appointed. May 15 Paid 30. Said Mass at 7 Convent called English. Went from Brixen to Brenner, very much up hill all the way, scenery romantic, picturesque & beautiful, a rapid torrent on our side all the way. The Brenner an immense mountain 30 miles each way. May 16 Paid 30. From Brenner to Innsbruck, down hill & one descent was very steep & very long, the scenery romantic & beautiful. We saw the Church of the Norbertines before we entered Innsbruck, we are surrounded by mountains covered with snow. Given to Mr B 30 Nap. May 17 Paid 30. From Innsbruck to Mittenwald up a dreadful mountain as far as Serfield, then an easy descent through a romantic & pleasant country, between Serfield & Mittenwald we entered the Bavarian Dominions. Wrote to Mr Kimbell 128 & Mr Macpherson. May 18 Paid 24. From Mittenwald to Wolfershausin. At Benedictbauren we left the mountains, between which we had been from Bassano a bout 300 miles . At Walsa we found a beautiful lake, fine fir trees on the barren parts of the rocky mountains, good soil & a fine country from Benedictbauren to this place. The dress of the 127 128

The Institute of the Blessed Virgin Mary, found ed by M ary Ward. President of St Edmund 's College, Old Hall.

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people different here from that of the Tyrolese. They appear to be religious & honest & are well behaved. May 19

Paid 24. From Wolfershausin to Munic, chiefly a woody country from our entrance into Bavaria. Fir trees, pasturage. Munic in a marsh. We saw the town, the palace, a dull place, the English garden. From Rome to Munic,1067 miles . May 20

Paid 46. From Munic to Augsbourgh the country very fine, chiefly Pasture ground, some corn & large forests of fir. Augsbourgh a large town, about 305000 inhabitants. The Bishopric is secularised, no Bp, 5 Canons who receive pensions from the State, no security for continuing these pensions after the death of the present. We were told by a Canon that a Concordat was made between the Pope by Mgr de la Zengar & the King of Wirtemburgh, in consequence of which the King has named an Archbp & 3 Bps, also a Council for Ecclesiastical affairs, who are not yet confirmed by the Pope. May 21

We spent this day at Augsbourgh, about a third of the inhabitants Protestant, the Catholics well behaved in the churches. We were in the Cathedral at High Mass, in many churches in Bavaria an altar placed in front of the High altar, very inconvenient. May 22

Paid 55. From Augsbourgh to VIm the road good, more hilly, the country poor; we crossed the Danube to enter into VIm, which is in the Dominion of Wirtemburgh. We visited the Cathedral & were surprised to find it Lutheran & still more so to hear that there are not more than 100 Caths in the town; there are 5 Priests. A good view of the Danube. May 23

Paid 60. From VIm to Stuttgart. The two last stages very delightful, with hills covered with trees or vines on each side on the banks of the Neckar. The immediate entrance very pretty. Wrote to Mr Kimbell. Given to Mr Bramston 30 Naps . May 24

Paid 3. We rested at Stuttgart, saw the Palace, large & well furnished, the town surrounded with hills covered with vines, streets

MAy 1815

broad, about 1500 Catholics, a Catholic Church, the Cath clergy within the Kingdom of Wirtemburgh protected in their possessions, no abstinence on Saturdays except they be fasting days . May 25 Paid 33. Said Mass in Church. Attended High Mass- Procession before, they say the Gospel of St John divided into 4 parts in German at each altar & gave Benediction. Went from Stuttgart to Heilbron, the first post to Lewisbourgh, a good palace, the Royal family there. May 26 Paid 66. From Iieilbron to Hippenheim soon after Furfield we entered the G. Duke of Baden's territories, the stage to Heidelberg exquisitely beautiful on the banks of the Neckar, with hills on each side covered with vines or firs , at H we saw the ruins of the old Castle. A good town, a beautiful view through a garden to Hippenheim. This day we breakfasted in Wirtemburgh, dined in Baden & supped in Damstadts dominions . May 27 Paid 36. From Hippenheim to Francfort, the road very good, a large wood before we entered Francfort. A good town, the fortifications demolished, a very pleasant walk round city. The Cathedral in the hands of the Caths, three or four other Cath Churches. Recd of Messrs Bethmann of Francfort value of 2390:5 Banque de Genoa. May 28 Paid 25. We said Mass in the Church of Our Lady, near the Inn a good church. All very decent people, well behaved, Francfort under the Archbp of Mayence, who is at the same time Bp of Constance [and] of Ratisbone. Went from Francfort to Mayence, a bad road. May 29 Paid 20. Saw Cathedral and Magazine, Malpas took us in his carriage out of the town to see the views, beautiful, provisionary government, fine situation for a great city, go in a yacht from Mayence to Reidesheim a most delightful sail down the Rhine, the borders fruitful , the river spotted with small Islands. We walked up a high mountain to Nittelwald, vines all about, of excellent quality. Paid Mr B 20 + 71 Naps .

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May 30 Paid 40. From Reidesheim to Coblents, most pleasant views on

each side, an amazing number of pretty villages, good churches, the right side of the Rhine covered with vines, of the best quality. At Coblents the confluence of the Moselle, a good town, Botanic Garden. Castle of Erenbreitsen fortifying . May 31

Paid 45. From Coblents to Bonne the wind strong against us, the banks of the Rhine not in the whole so rich or engaging, still a great many well built villages & churches. A spot near RolandWerth, a Monastery in an Island, the most magnificent & delightful we had beheld. In the whole the Banks of the Rhine from Ments [Mainz] to Cologne were beautiful, rich & very populous. There must be about 100 villages, mostly well built & large, good churches, towns, fortifications , the latter mostly demolished . June 1

Paid 15. From Bonne to Cologne, the country on the sides of the Rhine flat, nothing could exceed the appearance of Cologne from the water. It was first seen as we turned a corner of the bank & the churches etc seemed to move as in procession before us. Cologne a very ancient city. The Cathedral, what there is, Gothic in the highest Style. We saw the Chapel of the 3 Magi, rich, was carried to Prayers. We saw the Relics of St Ursula. June 2 Paid 50. From Cologne to Aix la Chapelle a bad road. A.I.C a large & well built town, the Cathedral, part of it old said to be

built by Charlemagne, whose body reposes in it. The Baths, the Mount, a good town & improvements in environs. June 3 Paid 33. From Aix la Chapelle to Liege, a rich & pleasant

country on each side of us, the poor children rude. The King of Belgium arrived at Liege to-day, & carricatured in illuminations. June 4

Paid 28 . Said Mass in St Antony's Church. Saw the present Cathedral St Paul's. The old Cathedral was demolished in the revolution. Liege a dirty place, went to St Trou, a pretty town, good Inn.

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June 5

Paid 50. From St Trou to Brusselle, met Mr Silvertop, a bad day, saw little of the Town, full of soldiers. 129 June 6

Paid 38. From Brussells to Gand. Met Mr Dossalls. Children on the road, very unbecoming in their behaviour. Sold carriage for 16-6 Nap . Given to Mr B. June 7

Spent this day at Gand. Saw the Archbp of Rheims, Abbe de la Tille, who refuses validity & canonicity of Concordat Bps act wrong, King acknowledged it wishes the old state of Church of France to be restored, then changes may be made. King might banish those Bps who refuse to submit because they would disturb the peace of his Kingdom, declared against the dependence of the Church on the Civil Power & made the Church of France dependent on the King of France. 130 June 8

Paid 30. From Gand to Bruges, saw Mr Moor & Co. Recd two letters from Mr Hodgson. June 9

Paid 20. From Bruges to Ostend by the Barge, engaged to go tomorrow by Packet. Saw Mr Silvertop. June 10

Saw Mr Slater. Sailed from Ostend. Recd from Mr B 50 Nap . Paid to servant, " re<;u Ie total de ce qui m'est du Mr Poynter et jusqu'a ce jour 10 Juin 1815 viz vingt cinq Napoleon" (signed) Legge. 13 1 June 12

Paid 65 . Arrived at Dover. Went to Sittingbourne.

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Twelve days before the Battle of Wa terloo. The archdiocese of Rheims had been abolished in 1801 and was not restored until 1817; J-B de Latil (while in exile in England he had been chaplain to the royal Count d'Artois) became its a rchbishop in 1824; it is unclear who this Abbe de la Tille was - perhaps the former archbishop? See note 323 . A feature of the Diaries is the recorded signature of borrowers of books or recipients of money.

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June 13 Paid 40. Arrived in London . Put into the General Post with my own hands, witness Mr Kiernan, the letters from Card Litta to Dr Troy & Dr Milner, also copies of my document, to Drs Gibson, Collingridge & Cameron 132 with a request to Dr Cameron to send one to Dr Chisholm. I33 I sent also a copy to Ld Castlereagh,134 asking an audience. June 14 I desired Mr Jerningham to call, he proposed Ld Stourton & Sir J.Throckmorton to wait on me. 135 I appointed 12 o'clock tomorrow. Sir J. Hippisley called,136 he knew that Lord C had a copy, shewed me two letters of Litta. June 15 Read the document to Ld Stourton, Sir J Throckmorton & Mr Jerningham. Lord S & Sir J agreed that it would be highly improper to make it public, Mr J & Mr Silvertop agreed to the same. 137 June 16 Letter from Dr Collingridge disapproving of the publication of the document in its present form. Dr Conolly called, read the document. Mr Norris l38 called on the business of Ross & shewed me letters from Jemmette on French affairs. Letter from Castlereagh to call on him at 12 o'clock tomorrow. June 17 Called on Lord Castlereagh. It was his opinion that it was better not to make the document public. He advised me to send a copy of it to Lord Liverpool139 & asked me for a copy of my Memorial to Card Litta on Emancipation promising to keep it

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137 138 139

Alex Cameron, V.A. of Lowland District in Scotland, 1805-25. Aeneas Chisholm, V.A. of Highland District,1814-18 . British Foreign Secretary, sympathetic to Catholic Emancipation. Edward Jermingham, Lord Stourton and Sir John Throckmorton were members of the Catholic Board. Sir John Coxe Hippisley (1748-1825) spoke in Parliament and wrote in favour of the Cathol ic cause (DNB) . See Introduction, p. 14. Edward Norris, chaplain at St Patrick's, Soho. Lord Liverpool, Prime Minister 1812-1827; opposed Catholic emancipation (DNB).

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secret. Recd of Mr Croker for St Patrick's Chapel £2, of Mr Jones for Firby £11 . June 18 Called on Ld Castlereagh to explain an interpretation of a sentence in the document. June 26 Letter recd from Old Hall. Recd of Mr Norris for St Patrick's Church 2 Excheqr Bills £100 each bearing lnst from 15 Dec, £200. Ditto Cash £6.2s. Given to charity £1. June 27 Dine with Ld Stourton No 2 Hanover Sq. Prorogantur facultates Dno Carolo Langrenais ad finem Aug. Concessa Dno Congron facultates Missioni [Faculties granted to Mr Charles Langrenais until the end of August and to Mr Congron faculties for the mission]. G.Keating for Aged Poor, for St George's Fields from New Fund for Eccl students no.18848 May 3 1815 £100. June 28 Dine Mr Fagan's. Wrote Mr White,140 what I said about Nuns' Superiors was a misdirection. I left it to him & them to judge of the procedure of reassuming dress, no order. Licentia Missam celebrandi Dno Blaise Alx de Barsse V.G.Arras indefinite [Permission to say Mass to Abbe Blaise Alx V G. of Arras indefinitely] . Given to Prince of Mount Libanus £5 . June 29 Left a note at Ld Liverpool's. Wrote to Card Litta. June 30 Facultates ad revocationem [until revoked] Leonardo Pericaund 141 et loa Bap Ones. Paid St George's Fields, Paid aged poor, Keating. St Patrick's Chapel from Mr Riley £10.10s For St Patrick's Chapel to Mr Norris Oct 24 1815 £200 + £6 2s + £10

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Thomas White (1764-1 826), chaplain at Winchester' see note 441. L'Abbe Leonard Pericaud (1743-1818), of the diocese of Sees, Normandy (Bellenger, French clergy).

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July 1 Rev Fran Richenet Miss de China licentia Missam celebrandi indefinite. [To Rev Fran Richenet Missioner from China permission to celebrate Mass indefinitely.] July 5 Dine Mr Cayme 5 o'clock. July 7 Prorogantur facultates Dno Bonav Gnaut pro Gallis & familia Dno Sorez ad 1 Jan 1816 [Faculties granted to Abbe Bonaventure Gnaut for the French and the family of Mr Sorez until 1 Jan 1816]. To chaplain to hear confessions of all in the house at Peckham till further order. July 8 Called on Bp of Aire. Mr Delaney'S affair,142 see my letters to him & his letters to Mrs Barry. Mr Norris assessed for ad valorem duty on P .R.Branch on Ecclesiastical acct for purchase of Riggory.143 July 9 Revd Walter Furlong asked leave to say Mass which I refused till he could produce satisfactory testimonials from Bp Collingridge. On Walter Furlong see my correspondence under the article Woolwich. 144 July 10 Recd answer from Mr Gillow of Ushaw, cannot receive Robert Cullen, wrote Mr Bowlan & Langworth of Slindon.145 Messrs Archer, Wilds, Carpue & Jones 146 dined with me, Mr Hodgson & Mr Bramston.

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Probably Rev. James Delaney (1768-1847), of the London District. A farm at Old Hall Green. AAW/SEC, Series 12. On the troubles at Woolwich, see Ward 2, p. 156. Mr Bowlan probably refers to Rev. John Francis Bowland (1770-1857) of the London District. Slindon House near Arundel had been a Mass-centre/mission throughout penal times (Kelly, p. 359). Dr James Archer, William Wilds, Joseph Carpue and John Jones served as chaplains at the Bavarian Chapel. James Archer (1751-1834) was famous for his sermons, which were published. William Wilds had been imprisoned with the Douai students; he later taught philosophy at St Edmund's until ministering at Warwick St. , where he died in 1850.

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July 11

12 Mr Stokes, about Peckham. Mrs Waterton called about Hammersmith nuns. 147 Recd answer from Mr Stewart,148 willing to go to Woolwich, answd him & wrote to Mr Eyston. July 12

One o'clock Chaplains of Moor Fields to call. I supplied the ceremonies of Baptism to the son of Mr Bonelli, baptised by Bp Conolly. Retribution Mr Bonelli No 88, on Down ÂŁ10 lOs. July 13

Countess de la Bafecque 5 o'clock 36 Manchester St. Wrote to Mr Spain proposing Virginia Street. 149 Answer Mrs Dirta, whether her Daughter can go to Ypres, 17 Upper York St, Montague Sq. I wrote to Corminau at Paris proposing 400ff for the Cabriolet. Mr Halls from Bovellis will negotiate the business with Corminau. July 15

I went with Mr Hodgson to Woolwich & told Mr Early, also Mr Conway & Mr Grady that Mr Furlong had no permission to act as a Priest, that it was unlawful & would be criminal in them to hear his Mass or receive any sacrament from him. Wrote to Mr Kimbell & Mr Horrabin 150 appointing Mr H to Virginia St. July 16

Go to St Patrick's 151 to meet the Gentlemen on the repairs of the Chapel, went. Mr Loughran, Mr Dorrell will go with Mr Norris to Mr MacDonnell 1s2 about collecting, the Chapel to be shut up after next Sunday. Ordained Mr Shaw Deacon. IS3

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Benedictine nuns from Dunkirk. A mission from 1815; ECP with Greenwich 1000. The priest was probably the Rev. Henry Stewart from Dublin, 1784-? A mission from 1790; ECP 10,000. The priest was the Rev. George Spain (17781838) of the London District. Richard Horrabin, from Lancashire, ordained 1808, served the London District and the Westminster Archdiocese until his death in 1859 (Fitzgerald-Lombard). A mission from 1792. ECP 7000 . Mr Loughran & Mr Dorrell were gentlemen of St Patrick's; Mr Norris & Mr MacDonnell chaplains. The Rev. James Shaw (1791-1840), ordained priest later in 1815 (FitzgeraldLombard).

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July 17 Mr Mosely will call about his boy, called, I can do nothing for him. Mr de la Rue from Portsea called. 154 Wrote to Mr Stewart to come immediately to Greenwich. Told Mr J Law 155 that I should not want him for Virginia Street. July 18 Wrote to Mr Taylor York Place City Road to see him about lease of house at Greenwich. Mrs James & Sister Dorothy retired from Peckham. I wrote to Mr Spain to say that I should not want him for Virginia Street - to Mr Delaney to say that he ceases to be Chaplain at Virg St & I appointed him to Gosport. To Mr Horrabin to come to Virginia Street on Friday. Wrote to Mr Dobson 156 to inform him that Mr Horrabin is appointed to Virg St & that Mr Delaney's house is to be occupied by him or Mr Horrabin. Appointed Rev Tho Griffiths 157 to care of Congregation at Old Hall. July 19 Wrote to Mr Early at Woolwich a letter to be communicated to the Catholics there declaring that they cannot hear the Mass of Mr Furlong. Facultates Dno Tho Ringe etiam pro monialibus sex menses [Faculties to administer also to the nuns granted to Mr Thomas Ringe for six months]. Sent to Mr Hodgson to Wright's 25 Nap. About this time Revd M Stone called on me to ask if I would ordain the 6leves of Stonyhurst ad titulum Religione Paupertatis. 158 I told him I must consult the other Vicars Apostolic, that by the letter of Borgia the Vicars Apostolic were forbidden to receive them till official notice was sent by the Apostolic See through the Propaganda [and] that no notice had been sent.

154

L' Abbe Fran~ois de La Rue (1760-1827), at Portsea for twenty years from 1806; also in charge of Gosport for the last twelve of those years (Bellenger, French clergy).

155 156 157

158

The Rev. John Law (1768-1832). The Rev. Thomas Dobson (1787-1835) . 1791-1847; a future President ofSt Edmund's and from 1836 V.A. of the London District. Ordained as Religious in this case Jesuits' cf. Introduction , p. 15 . The priest was Fr Marmaduke Stone SJ (1748-1834), of the Northern District.

JULY

1815

July 21

Wrote to Card Consalvi & Mr Macpherson. Mr Horrabin came to Virginia Street. July 22

Went with Mr Stewart to Greenwich & gave him a letter to be read to the people concerning Mr Furlong at Woolwich. Facultates Dno Pet Dacheux ad annum, sent to Hendred for a month. 159 July 23

Revd James Shaw was ordained Priest, Mr Hodgson, Mr Tuite, Mr Broderick as,sisting. 160 July 26

Wrote to Creevey about Mass in St Patrick's Charity School, to Somerstown about Mr Devereux preaching at Westminster. J61 Tho Ewart born in Nov 1800. Pat Brickley was 15 last March. Ewart in Abbot's place. Brickley to be paid by me. Mr Philips, 1st half year was paid by Mr Gr since which nothing has been pd, has been at Sedgley Park 162 2 yrs. July 27

Revd Tho Griffiths appointed Pastor of the Congregation at Old Hall. 163 July 28

Dno Salmon licentia celebrandi bis die bus Domcis & festis de praeceptis ad sex menses [Permission for Mr Salmon to say Mass twice a day on Sundays and on days of obligation for six months].

Mr Salmon left with me a Bond from Wm Sheldon to him.

159

160

161 162 163

East Hendred, Oxon. An early mission, the home of the Eyston family . Pierre Louis Dacheux (1760-1843) had worked in Bristol and later built a chapel in King's Lynn. Francis Tuite (1768-1838) was appointed titular president of Douai to succeed John Daniel; he served as Vice-President of St Edmund's and Vicar General. Richard Broderick (177 1-1 831), one of the Douai students imprisoned during the Revolution spent most of his ministry at Lincoln's Inn Fields. In Great Smith Street, a mission from 1813; ECP 2000. Preparatory school and junior eminary situated in the Mid land District. But see entry for July 18 above.

THE

POYNTER DIARIES

July 31 Recd a parcel from Rome with a letter for Bp Collingridge & one for Mr Bramston, sent the letter to Bp Collingridge. 9s 4d. August 1 Wrote to Dom Augustine l64 to tell him that he could not give powers for St Croix, enclosing my letter to Dom Antoine. Wrote to Mr Macpherson by Abbe Campbell & sent for New Test, Pond's Astronomical Observations (£2.8) & Nautical Almanac (6s) . Paid £2.8s August 2 Wrote to Dr Murray about Furlong. Gave Keating 165 leave to insert places of public chapels of London District in Directory, appointed Revd John Lee of Warwick St L66 to prepare the Directories. Facultates antea supra Dno Simoni prorogantur ad annum [Previous faculties for Rev. Simon to be renewed for a year] . August 4 Wrote to Mr Macpherson enclosing one to Card Litta. Granted faculties to Mr Rolfe 167 usque ad revocationem. August 5 Answered Dr Milner about Winchester. 168 Wrote to Dom Antoine about Mr Delany. Granted leave for the clothing of Miss Rament at Winchester. Prorog facul Dno Maliel ad 1 Jan 1816. [Faculties renewed for Dom Maliel until 1 Jan 1816] Recd of Mrs Thorn donation £100 for house.

164

165

Dom Augustine was Abbot of La Trappe in France; he had narrowly escaped execution and fled to England. He resided for a time at Somers Town before trying to fo und a monastery in the West Indies. He returned to France after the Restoration. The monks at Lulworth came under his jurisdiction (Ward, 2, p. 169). George Keating (1762-1842), son of the founder of the Catholic printers and publishers Keating, Brown and Keating who were responsible for The Laity's Directory.

166

167 168

Chapel of the Bavarian Embassy; ECP 5000. Rev. John Lee had studied at Douai; he escaped during the Revolution and was ordained 1793; ministered at East Hendred and Warwick St. , where he died in 1839. Rev. John Rolfe (1784-1851), priest of the London District. A mission from 1674. Milner had been senior chaplain there; ECP 500.

AUGUST

1815

August 10 Mr Cary 3 o'clock. August 11 Sent a letter to Card Pacca. Wrote to Fr Archangelo in my letter to Mr Macpherson. FacuItates prorogantur Dno Fauteuil ad finem huius anni ffaculties renewed to Mr Fauteuil to the end of this year]. Recd letter from Rome to be forwarded to Revd In Baptist Marchini Procurator of the Propaganda, Macao ÂŁ8.17s 4d. August 14 Mr Rob Clifford left with me 9 copies of New Test. Fine, & 9 copies Common. Mr Bramston to clergy, Fine copy 7s Common copy 3s 6d, in shops Fine 12s 6d Common 7s 6d. 1 of each Mr Bramston sent, 3 of each Mr Kiernan sent, 1 of each College, 1 of each for myself. 169 August 16 Mr Dobson 4 o'clock. In Lescher single sum of 30 guineas White Chapel. August 17 Ask Mr Hodgson to search in the London St Chapel 170 for a copy of the Register of Robert Justave in Feb 1806. August 18 Wrote to Mr Macpherson. Recd Mr Gerard for fine copy of New Test 7s, Recd of Mr White for Common copy 3s 6d, for two Common copies Mr Horrabin & Mr Dobson 7s. Paid Mr Norris for Abbe Carron's Chapel ÂŁ130.17s. 17 1 August 19 FacuItates Dno Jacobo Shaw usque ad revocationem. 169 170

17 1

Milner objected to this new edition of the New Testament; see Ward 2, pp. 19320l. St George's Fields. A mission from 1786; ECP 10, 000. Now the site of St George's Cathedral, Southwark. At Somers Town, a mission from 1798. ECP 5000. Guy Toussaint Julien Carron had ministered in Jersey and Tottenham Court Road providing many social needs among the French. His main missionary activity was at Somers Town where he built a chapel dedicated to St Aloysius, a small seminary, a 'maison de conference' for adult classes and four schools, both fee-paying and charity. He returned to France and died in 1821 (Bellenger, French clergy, pp. 104-9).

THE POYNTER DIARIES

August 21 Wrote to Lord Sidmouth. l72 August 22 Mr R Gillow Camden Hale 5 o'clock. Omnes facultates Vicari a renovata Dno Grimaldo usque ad revocationem. [All missionary faculties renewed for Mr. Grimaldo until revoked] Changed the obligation of the Little Hours & Compline for the Penit Psalms & acts of F .H.C. to Mr Marsland. I73 August 23 Mr G. Gillow 4 o'clock. August 24 Mr Norris 12 Clarence Sq 6 o'clock. Concessa licentia Dno G. MacDonald Scoto licentia Missam celebrandi in Lond.Dist. ad revocationem [Permission granted to the Scot, Rev. G. MacDonald, to say Mass in the London District until revoked]. August 26 Recd Donation by hands of Revd Mr Gillow to be applied to charitable purposes according to my discretion ÂŁ400. Given to Mr Kimbell ÂŁ100. August 27 Confirmed Miss Carey, Miss MacDermot, Miss Carrounine. Renewed faculties ad revocationem to Mr Carissant who lives with Abbe Carron. August 28 Mr Lawson Priest of Downside 174 & Mr Barber called, gomg over to Dowa y .

172

173 174

Home Secretary. Rev. John Marsland (1738-1817), an elderly Lancashire priest serving in the London District. The Benedictine community from Douai, imprisoned with Dr Poynter in Doullens during the Revolution, eventually founded the Abbey at Downside.

AUGUST - SEPTEMBER

1815

August 29 Wrote to Revd Mr Serjeant 175 giving him leave on account of the state of his health to remain in the North. Placed at Wright's Mr Hodgson, my own £400, Thompson £100. August 30 Dine with Miss Doughty. Consider Dover. 176 Mr Tribou Amb de Calais . September 4 For Charitable purpose recd of Mr James Knappl77 £10. applied £10. September 8 Mr Courai licentia celebrandi Missam quamdiu in Districtu manet. Adrien Grenam facuItates prorogantur ad 6 Jan 1816 [Permission for Mr Courai to celebrate Mass as long as he is resident in the London District. Faculties for Adrian Grenam extended to the 6th Jan 1816] . September 11 Confirmed Mr Henry Cary Joseph. September 12 Licentia Missam celebrandi ad 6 menses. September 13 Called on Bp of Aire, Bp of U sez was present, they will affiche a notice that after 1 Jan next all the French clergy are to come to me for faculties. 178 Dr Murray, Dr Murphy & Mr Blake called, only spoke of Furlong. They leave town this evening for Rome. White's children one 10-13 No 95 Chancery Lane.

175 176

177 178

Probably Rev. John Sergeant (1777-1825), educated at Valladolid. A mission from 1820; ECP 500. A cousin of Bishop Poynter, ordained priest at Douai in 1774. A formula was composed by Bishop Poynter to be signed by the emigre priests to ensure that they were free of the Blanchardist schism; cf Introduction, p. 11. Poynter had appointed the Bishop of Aire as vicar general for the French clergy in London; he returned to France in 1815 (Ward 2, pp. 221, 224). The bishop of Uzes was Mgr Bethisy (1744-1817).

THE POYNTER DIARIES

September 14 Facultates Dno Carolo Alangrenayl79 ad revocationem. [Faculties to Rev. Charles Alangrenay until revoked.] September 18 L.T.Deane 22 Orchard St 6 o'clock. Signed Mr Lane's certificate for self, J Griffiths & Mr Hodgson the sum due ÂŁ1258, Mr Brown attended & Mr France. September 19 Dno Nerincks facultas audiendi confessiones Monialium [Faculty to Rev. Nerincks to hear the confession of the nuns]. Given Mr Stewart M . ch. for Ann Talbot & Risdon from Jan 1 1815. September 23 Ordained Mr Daniel Deacon, Jn White & Benj Barber subdeacon, Jas Staples, Th Costigan, Riley, Hartley Exorc & Acoly, Scott Tonsure, Porter, Lector. September 24 Ordained Priest J .L.Daniel. I80 September 25 7-8-9, Mr Dobson says more proper now 8-10-11. 181 70 when 3chaplain-House-7 Mass at Virg Street. Norman does not say Mass there, Guene . Sold for purchase of Riggory, Smelts 3 consols 4200. Debt to be repaid from New fund money consols 5214. September 26 Authorised Grimouville 182 to give leave to say 2nd Mass on a Sunday to a Priest on Jersey. Wrote to Card Litta sending Epistle of Intelligence from O. Joann about Irish Resolutions, of O'Connell'sI 83 speech, also to Mgr Mauri enclosing both to Mr Macpherson to be sent to Paris by Mr Tuite. 179 180 18 1 182

183

Probably L'Abbe Charles Langreney (1764- 1819), who worked in Westminster from 1792. Rev. Joseph Daniel , who died in 1818 at the age of 34. Times of Mass. Rev. Charles Grimouville-Larchant (1751-182 1), appointed by Bishop Douglass vicar general of the Channel Islands. Daniel O'Connell , famous leader of the Irish laity. He had studied for a short time at Douai under Dr Poynter, before transferring to the college at St Orner; cf. Introduction, p. 14.

SEPTEMBER - OCTOBER

1815

September 27 Recd by Mr Grainger a letter for Mr L. Brosius Pretre Missionaire, Boston Etat de Massachusetts Amerique Septrinonaire. Martha Toms 26, Mrs White 78 St Thos St, Port. September 28 Wrote to Sister Monica at Peckham to go to Somerstown on Saturday, to Abbess at Peckham, to Mr Gillow, to Cocket, giving him ÂŁ15. John Hutchinson near 20, Mr Ingo pay ÂŁ25 pa for 3 & three quarter years & for pocket money. September 29 Go to Mr Atkinson 56 Chancery Lane, Stewart of Mount Ag Manor for Court Roll. Geoffroi 31 Evesham Buildings. Prorogantur facultates Fr Morell Somerstown ad 8 Oct 1816 [Faculties renewed for Father Morrell at Somerstown until 8th Oct 1816]. September 30 At 4 o'clock Mr Wood will call to sign the deeds. Licentia Dno D Jennings Missam celebrandi ad revocationem. [Permission for Rev. D. Jennings to say Mass until further notice] Purchased the farm at Riggory for six thousand pounds as the agreement was made last year, & the delay tho not any fault on our side was not to be imputed to Mr Wood. I agreed to pay one year's Interest of the money & Mr Wood made over to me one year's rent. October 1 Dine Arundel House. Parsons

+ Fulham.

October 2 Ask Mr Hodgson at Ric North's confirmation Cherry Garden St 12, Bernard. October 3 Dine with Mr Bonelli at 5 o'clock. October 4 Dine with Mr Jerningham 5 o'clock. Speak to Mr Kimbell about Conver's money.

THE POYNTER DIARIES

October 5 Dined at Albion, Aldergate Street, for Virginia School. 184 Executors to Mr Jordan's will, Hon Ed Stuens & Mr Wm Stebbins in Santa Crux. The debt for Haydock has been entered in Mr Jordan's book. October 6 Recd a letter from Mr Planguais 185 concerning the conduct of the Gov of Grenada Sir J Shipley towards him. Sent by Mr Loughnan the letter of J .B.Macin Procurator of the Propaganda at Macao. October 10 2 o'clock Ld Bathurst Downing St. He objected to such extensive Sec Vicarial power as was given to Planguais over all the West India Islands. He complained of his opposition to the Govt. I explained that the nomination of the Govt could not give spiritual power to the Spanish Priests, he said that the approach of Mr Planguais had made such a noise that if the Council could not let him remain, without making such concessions as his feelings would not permit him to make, that he must be sent to France & some other person found to succeed him. Enault might say Mass at V. Street. 186 October 11 Mr Norris dine 6. October 12 Revd Charles MacDonnell 187 accepted the place at St George's Fields. October 13 Mr Stewart 4 o'clock. Disp 2 & 3 Consang Mister Car Cuite & Eliz Hollington Lee, Hammersmith.

184

18 5

There are a number of references to what were obviously Charity Dinners, mainly to raise money for schools. Thomas Marie Charles Le Planquais (1753-1816), who had been sent to the West Indies by Poynter in 1813 as Vicar Apostolic; he died in Martinique (Bellenger, French clergy).

186

187

There were several French priests named Esnault; it is not clear which is referred to here. Possibly Fr Charles (Francis) MacDonnell OFM (1770-1843).

OCTOBER

1815

October 14 Revd Charles MacDonnell accepted Woolwich for a time. October 15 I called on Lord Arundel. See my letters. Confirmed Miss Graham Elizabeth & the young Mary. October 16 Lord Arundel called on me, & Mr Gossier,188 see letters. Mr Archer. October 17 I called on Bp elf Aire to desire him to recommend a Clergyman for Grenada . Facultates prorogantur Revd Dno Ant Aubry ad finem anni 1816 [Faculties granted to Revd Ant Aubry until end of 1816J. October 18 Wrote to Mr Ch MacDonnell about Woolwich. Mr Archer called to shew me a letter from Dr O'Conor 189 threatening me with the law. October 20 Sent a petition to the King of France to be presented by Bp Cameron, gave a copy to the French Ambassador, sent it in a letter to Mr Tuite. Called on Miss Brook 18 Albany . Call on Miss Brook on Friday between 12 & 1. Recd a letter from Bps of Usez & Aire resigning all faculties , they have no Priest to recommend for Grenada. October 22 Received a letter from Rev C MacDonnell stating the repentance of Mr O'Conor at Woolwich, on Sunday public reparation was made in the Chapel. O'Grady also gave satisfaction. October 25 Facultas Rev. Pet Potier usque ad renovationem. Revd Dno L'Anglois de Southampton ad 1 Nov 1816.

188 189

L'Abb6 Franyois Gossier (1766-1840), chaplain and tutor to the Arundel famil y for many years. See note 121 above.

THE

POYNTER DIARIES

October 31 Wrote to Card Consalvi. Mr Macpherson sent pieces of Italian Newspaper. Mr David's speech, 2 pieces on Address. Abbe Machias 75 George St, Spanish Chapel. November 1 I desired Mr Macpherson to send Mr Fine to Paris to succeed Campbell of Crokat at Leghorn for me. Thos Murphy in Somers town. November 2 Mr Malo Sidney transferred the account books of Virginia St Chapel to Mr Dobson. Mr Furlong & Mr O'Conor from Hull called. I would not see them, to Mr Furlong a letter of my observations. November 3 Mr Griffiths died at 1 in the morning. 190 Wrote to Maysheron & sent the P's fictitious answer to Irish address. Facultas concessa Dno Broderick dispensandi in 3 consang [Faculty granted to Revd Broderick to dispense from 3rd degree of consanguinity]. NB £698 . 16. 10. in 3 pc. in Mr Griffiths' name alone, belong to John Sherrott Senior. November 4 Write to Mr Kimbell about Mr Gesbert, Diocese de Mans, Mons de la Roche 19 Blanford St. £155 18s 5d Mr Kimbell's bills against the Sherrotts to 8 Jan 1813. November 6 Dined at Albion. Charity Schools Dinner, for St George's Fields. The Master of the School at Woodford is Mr Jey, 6 Catholic boys. November 8 I and my Brother & his Wife signed the deeds for the sale of Petersfield estate. 191 I wrote to Mrs Woollett & give £15 pa towards the education of a poor boy. Confirmed Eliz Taylor name in Conf Mary. I called on Mr Talbot to request him to have the concerns of the Sherrotts surrendered to the Lord

190 19 1

John Griffith (1753-1815), the much respected senior chaplain at Greenwich. A personal reference to the Poynter home in Petersfield.

NOVEMBER

1815

Chancellor with a request that he will appoint an Administrator. Abbe Bequet with M Picquot, New Road Paddington, says Mass for the Austrian Ambassador Stratfield Palace. November 10 Buried Mr Griffiths in Chapel, I sung Mass considering the extraordinary work he had done. Wrote to Mr Tuite. Rev Wm Fryer l92 sent me £420 of which for St George's Fields £240 for College £180. November 12 Preached at Lincoln's Inn Fields. Pd to Mr Griff & P £455 13 1. I lent Mr Kimbell £580 viz £400 lent £180 left by Mr Thop for ColI. . November 14 Taken £10 & sent the same to Mrs Mary Griffiths for attending Mr G during illness & to burial. November 16 Visited by Smith & Carey about Rosary, prepared to answer them . Wrote to Mr Gandolphy about sermons,193 to Dr Milner sending faculties granted to Mr G appointed as V.G, a Receipt of note about it. Sent to Bp Milner a receipt from L Weir for £8.10s paid by Mr Griffiths for Bp M 29 May 1815. November 17 Mr Gandolphy called. I exposed to him errors, he did not satisfy me on his disposal to suppress the work. I appointed 3 days, his faculties would cease if not done & if he went 20 miles from London without it, he would be suspended. He called, said he would suppress the circulation, I sent him an Exeat. November 18 Archbp Everard 194 called, proposed me to go to Paris, at last thought it would be better for me to wait till he wrote to me from Paris. In the mean time I shall obtain a power from the Vicars Apostolic to ask in their name. 192 193 194

The Rev. William Victor Fryer (1768-1844), priest of the London District. See Introduction, p. 15. At this time co-adjutor of Cashel in Ireland; sometime rector of the Irish College, Bordeaux, and president of Maynooth; he became Archbishop of Cashel in 1820 and died in 1822 (Brady 2, p. 30).

THE POYNTER DIARIES

November 19 Sent a power to Bp Milner Tichfield St. November 20 Recd a letter from Madras about the disorders caused in that Church by two refractory Priests who had been sent to Madras or St Thomas' by the Archbp of Goa & by the Prefect & Father Joa Fidele da Cunes the Curate of Madras. Two of the letters of which these were copies were for the Prefect of the Propaganda one signed by a great number of the Inhabitants of Madras,195 the other by Fra Eustachio da Fossombrone, Capucino, Mission Apost. Another letter of Fra Eustachio was written to Bp Douglass. I forwarded the whole to Mr Macpherson Rome Jan 1816, the letters were dated Madras 4th & 10th March 1815. November 21 From time of Mr Green's death till Mr Griffiths left Greenwich about 3 weeks before Mr Stewart went, at the rate of £8 pa. November 22 Balance of Duffy Account £246.19.2. Paid Peggy Burke for Mr Griffiths £3.13.4, for Mission lOs. Peggy had the care of the house at Greenwich. November 25 Dispensation in 2 & 3 consang mixt for Rev Car MacDonnell. November 26 Mr Norris 6 o'clock. November 27 Recd from Mr Norris a statement of his accounts with deeds of St Peter house & other property at Winton. November 28 Messrs Archer, Fryer, Wilds, Carpue, Broderick. 196 Appointed Mr Archer V.G. for the French.

195

196

Poynter's involvment with Propaganda on these matters came through his responsibility as V.A. of the London District which included British Colonies abroad. A meeting of the senior priests of the London District. On Carpue see note 420.

NOVEMBER - DECEMBER

1815

November 29 At eleven go to Mr Heal's Proctor Grt Knight, Rider St. Doctors Commons. Wrote to Mr Jones of Cliff to draw on for balance of his accounts £70.17.2. Purchased £242.15.3, 4 pc Poynter & Bew 197 for £183 .17.10. Ordered £240 to be invested in 3 pc Mr Gowes, Mr Owen for washing £2 .3.2. November 30 Mrs Ruinart 25 Rue du Maille. December 1 Limousin 198 to hear confessions facultas delegandi duo administrandi sacma P.arochia quandocumque quotiescumque visum fuerit ad tempus limitatum [faculty of delegating binated Masses and of administering the sacraments whenever and as often as it appears necessary for a limited period]. Paid all Mr Norris Bills to this time. December 3 Gave Mr Horrabin Masses I recd from 1 Sept 1815 all 4s each. December 4 At 7 o'clock set off from the Old Bell, arrived at Dover. 199 Paid coach to Dover £1.10s. Besides paying above, I took with me £55 also 20 Guineas = £21 , also in notes £2, also in silver £1.9s + £79.9 . Enquire for an Ecclesiastic as Tutor to educate & Superintend Barry Callaghan, 17 or 18. December 5 Sailed at 1 o'clock & arrived at Calais about four. Enquire at St Sulpice about McCarthy. Mr Dunca[nJ, Hampstead Heath to begin Philosophy.

197

198 199

Rev. John Bew, D .D. (1784-1829), formerly president of Oscott, was invited to become president of St Edmund's. He was heavily involved in the negotiations over the English colleges in France (Ward 2, pp. 259-63). L'Abbe Mathurin Limousin (c.1757-1827), priest of the Diocese of Tours. Poynter was going to Paris to try to obtain the compensation due for the closure of the English colleges during the Revolution; see Introduction, p. 7. The French government had set up a special Bureau to determine the whole issue.

THE POYNTER DIARIES

December 6 Saw the Curate; but gave him no answer about having a French Priest at Dover. Went to Samer. Recd for Mr Daniel (Chapter), £l1.11s. December 7 Went to Airaine. December 8 To Noailles. December 9 Arrived at Paris about four, went to Hotel de la Vallette 63 Rue des Sts Peres, where Bramston, Cameron & Paterson 200 lodged. When I arrived in Paris I had 56:6:10 Louis = £50.10.6 + 20 Guineas (£21) in notes £2, in silver 6s 6d. Total £73.17 . £91 brought, £73 17 remaining, £17.3 spent in Paris. Post to England, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday. December 10 Preach for Aged Poor at Lincoln's Inn Fields at 6 in the evening.20J I wrote to Mr Hodgson by Dr Conwell, I recd a letter from Mr Barrett. December 11 Duke de Richelieu, Rue des Banques, Dr Everard, Mr Long,202 Mr Farquhauson 203 dined with us. Abbe de la Tile (now Bp of Amiclee) called & saw me in particular, recommending that we should try to give the new Commission a good turn, said he would let me know when I could see the Gd Almoner & the King. December 12 Mr Long called, he & Dr Everard are for subjecting the Colleges to a French administration. Bp Cameron & I will not & cannot consent to it.

200

201 202 203

According to Brady, Alexander Patterson became a bishop in 1816, when he was appo inted coadjutor to the Lowland District of Scotland; he succeeded as V.A. in 1825 and moved to the new Eastern District in 1827; he died in 183l. Presumably an unfulfilled engagement noted earlier in the diary. Revd Paul Long, recently appointed rector of the Irish College in Douai. Rector of the Scots College in Douai.

DECEMBER

1815

December 13 Dr Everard called & he & Bp Cameron & myself were in conference 3 hours, our general determination was to claim immediate & free possession of our Colleges & to have nothing to do with the new Bureau, the heads of an address to the Gd Almoner to this effect we prepared. Recd letters from Mr Hodgson & Mr Kiernan. December 14 I called on Dr Everard with an address to the Gd Almoner prepared in English, & left it for Mr Long to put it into Parisian French. I called at Mgr d'Amiclt~e, & at the Gd Almoner's, who invited me to dine with him at six. I had a conference with him & Amich~e after dinner, the meaning of what they said was that our Colleges etc were to be subject, at least provisoirement, to a French Administration, to this I objected. The Gd Almoner appointed 3 o'clock Friday to receiving Dr Everard, Dr Cameron & myself. December 15 A Everard, Dr Cameron & myself waited on the Grand Almoner with an address, he advised us to go to Mr Jourdan, we called on him. December 16 Mr Tuite & I called on Mr Danie1. 204 I wrote to Mr Bramston. Paid for Cassock, Mosetta etc ÂŁ285 . Taken one Louis for private use, ÂŁ20. December 17 Mr Barrett came & advised me to be cautious in what manner [sic] I demanded possession.20 5 See his note to me Dec 18. December 18 I went to the Police for my Passport, they referred me to Sir Ch Stewart. Mr Long called & read some notes he had prepared, I declared that I did not give my consent or approbation to them.

204 205

Officially given title as Rector of the English College, Douai, to ensure continuity. Bryant Barrett was an English lawyer working in Paris at the time.

THE POYNTER DIARIES

December 19 We dined at the Irish College with Mr Long, Archbp Everard. Mr Barrett & Mr Daniel spent the morning in my room looking over Mr Barrett's Papers. December 20 Sent a letter to Mr Hodgson. Mr Barrett takes his lodging in this hotel. NB Mr Tuite brought with him 35 louis, and he has drawn on Wright for £30. He spent on his journey of his own £5.6.3d. Given to Mr Tuite for Common Expenses 20 louis. December 21 Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson. Granted a dispensation for 2 Caths or 1 Cath the other Prot. Left my Passport at the Police & obtained a permit de Sejour. December 22 Saw Abbe d'Asteros 20 6 who gave me leave to officiate Pontificals in his diocese.

December 23 Wrote to Mr Hodgson. NB Mr Tuite has drawn on Wright for £30 more & for £40. In all for the £100 for which he had credit. December 26 Wrote to the Minister of the Interior, asking an audience & enclosing a petition to the King December 27 Wrote to the D de Richelieu asking an audience sur les affaires des Catholiques d' Angleterre. December 28 Recd a letter from Mr Cullen. Wrote to Mr Bramston. Had an audience with the Minister of the Interior. December 30 Saw Dr Everard. Received an invitation to the Duc de Richelieu at 11 next Tuesday.

206

See note under January 14, 1818.

DECEMBER

1815

December 31 I met Dr Everard & Dr Cameron, we agreed to go tomorrow to pay our compliments to Gd Almoner & Arnic1ee, to meet on Tuesday after I had seen Richelieu & then to take measures to obtain an audience of the King. Recd a letter from Dr Bramston. Wrote to Mr Hodgson & Mr Cullen.

Accounts at end of Year 1815: Mr Tuite recd from Mr Hodgson by drafts £100, French gold brought from London £31.18 .9. From Mr Hodgson drafts £30 & £50, from Dr P £30.3.2, of his own Mr Tuite £5 .3.3, Mr Tuite has in hand £44.14.10. Spent on the whole £242.10.4. Deduct spent for particulars £13.18.6 . Spent in common to be divided in a certain proportion between D .SO. [sic J Sem & Dist, £228.11.10. Drawn on Mr H for bills due to Mr Barrett £200. Dr P's private expenses in livres: letters to home 17:6, silk stockings 16, gloves 6 & 5. stockings 8, books 55, Taylors bill 13, pens etc 11:2 = 131:8 livres.

THE

POYNTER DIARIES

1816 February 20 Mr Tuite drew on Mr H for £30. March 11 Mr Tuite drew on Mr H for £50. Given Mr Tuite 14 Louis. Taken to myself half a guinea. March 30 Mr Tuite drew on Griffith & Poynter for £40. Paid Sacristy St Sulpice 1 Louis. 207

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Poynter returned to England sometime in April 1816. These few entries for 1816 are in the 1815 Diary.

JANUARY

1817

1817 January 1 Letter written to Revd Thos Griffiths Old Hall. Letters received from Revd Fr Tuite Paris dated 24 Dec 1816 enclosing one from Mr Maysleson Rome 7 Dec 1816. January 2 Prorogantur facultates Dno Neil ad annum et facultates Dno Le Houp at Somerstown erg a Anglos et exteros ad annum quae renovantur singlis annis ipso facto renovantur a Vic. G. pro Gallis. Prorogantur Dno Goudin ad annum Luxitanis, Hispaniis iisdem ipso facto renovatis cum renovantur fac a V.G. Gallis. Prorogatur & renovatur eodem modo pro Gallis quibuscumque Dno Vasselin [Faculties are granted to Rev. Neil for the year and faculties to Abbe Le Roup at Somerstown for the English and foreigners for a year which are automatically renewed each year by the V. G. of the French. Faculties are granted to Abbe Goudin to hear confessions of the Portuguese and Spanish to be renewed automatically each year when granted by the V . G. of the French. In the same way faculties are granted to Dom Vasselin to all the French]. Revd Mr McDonald of Canada called,208 Ld Sidmouth, Ld Bathurst ÂŁ100 for each clergyman in Canada. He shewed me Mr Gradwell's letter from Litta 23 Nov announcing the same conditions as mine from Litta 25 Nov . January 3 Letter to Mr Cassagneau 209 at Romsey to enquire when his faculties were last renewed. Given Mr Dion. Lud. Cottineau testimonials & his being ordained Deacon at St Edmund's Dec 21 1816. Prolonged leave to say Mass to Mr Simon at Winchester till Jan 1818. Prorogantur facultates Dno Mathias ad 6 Jan 1818. Prorogantur fac Abbe Chene 210 pro Anglis ad revocationem [Faculties are renewed for Dom Mathias until 6 Jan 1818 and to Abbe Chene for the English until revoked]. Letter from Revd Thos Griffiths acknowledging receipt of 1st Jan. I sent printed copies of the Latin letters & other copies of the letters of Mr

208 209 2 10

Possibly Dr McDonnell, Vicar Apostolic of Upper Canada L' Abbe Jacques Cassagneau (died 1836), priest of the Diocese of Bayeux. L'Abbe Chene of the Diocese of Bayeux. For his involvement in the Blanchardist troubles, see Ward I, p. 93, and 2, pp. 225-6.

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Macpherson 23 Nov & Mr Gandolphy to me to Bps Gibson,211 Collingridge, Cameron, Chisholm & Paterson. I wrote another to Mr Gibson. January 4 James O'Leary 21 yrs old, born in London, of Cath parents to go to ColI on Tuesday next. 212 Recd a letter from Mr Gandolphy. Prorogantur Abbe Pericaux ditto Abbe Chene. January 5 Preached at St George's Fields. January 6 Answd Mr Gandolphy's letter of 4th. Wrote to Mr Archer to call here on Thursday 3 o'clock. Wrote to Mr Bew to come here on Thursday. Recd answer from Mr Cassagneau to mine of 3rd. January 7 Sent Mr Macpherson printed copy of letters to J [?J from Card Litta. January 8 Spoke to Mr Kimbell about CoIl . Mr Bew came to town. Recd letter from Mr Griffiths . Facultas Dno Bouche des Marais 213 admini sac parociae Gallis & exteris Gallis prorogantur ad annum [Faculties granted to Abbe Bouche des Marais to administer parochial sacraments to the French and to visitors from France for a year]. January 9 Messrs Hodgson, Bramston, Archer, J Bew met me. 1. Mr Bew chosen President of St Edmund's. 2. Mr Rolfe go to ColI as assistant to Mr Bew. 3. Mr Kimbell to Virginia Street. 4. Mr Smith of South Street to Brighton. 214 5. Mr Jones to Sidmouth St. 6. Mr Mouchel to Thorndon, fiat. Facultates extenduntur Dno C Mignoret ad quoscumque exteros qui gall ice loquuntur, & renovantur solis annis ipso facto quo renovantur facultates. Revd 2 11 2 12

2 13 2 14

The ageing V.A. of the Northern District. There are many references to particulars of boys and men offering themselves for the priesthood . L'Abbe Jacques Bouchet du Marais (1745-1817), priest of the Diocese of Sees. South Audley Street contained the Portuguese Chapel, which had 5 chaplains. Brighton had been a mission since 1779; ECP 500.

JANUARY

1817

Dno de la Lorneau apud Ramsey eodem facultates quo Missionis Anglis ad 6 Jan 1818. [Faculties are granted to Abbe Mignoret to all foreigners who speak French -and the faculties are renewed automatically each year. In the same way faculties are granted to Abbe de la Lorneau for the English in the Mission at Romsey until 6 Jan 1818]. January 10 Saw Mr Rolfe, agreed to go to ColI. Dr O'Brien will not admit Mr Langrenais, 215 Mr Langrenais allowed to exercise faculties for present. January 11 Mr Mouchel dined & agreed to go to Thorndon. 2 16 Went to Mr Bramston. Wrote to Lord Petre saying Mr Mouchel would go to Thorndon on Monday. January 12 Received a letter from Lord Petre wishing not to see Mr Mouchel nor to receive a foreigner. Wrote to Mr Mouchel in consequence. January 20 Conceditur Dno Salmon facultas binandi ad Pentecostem [Faculty of binating to Rev. Salmon until Pentecost] . January 22 Prorogatur Capellinis apud Virginia Street facultas binandi ad 22 Aug 1817, secundum conditiones 22 Aug 1816 designatas [Permission to binate Masses granted to the Chaplains at Virginia Street until 22 Aug 1817, according to the conditions laid down on 22 Aug 1816]. January 23 I wrote to Mr Bew & to Mr Kimbell. Answd Mr Jerningham, note about Gandolphy . A deputation of six or seven from Redriffe 217 congreg begging that Mr Langenais might say Mass in a private room for part of the congreg. Mr Jos Delaney desired to come on Saturday. I wrote to Dr O'Brien to call here tomor-

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217

See note 179. L'Abbe Joseph Mouchel or Mouchet, a priest of the Diocese of Bayeux; served at Winchester and Brighton. Rotherhithe. A mission from 1796; ECP 9000.

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row. Mr Rolfe called, conversation about ColI, he to be Procurator. I went to Mr Bramston about Redriffe, we spoke of Costigan. 218 Gandolphy, note sent to me by Mr Jerningham. Dr Murray's letter, letter from London Clergy, wait a little. Saw Mr Webster. 219 January 24 I wrote to Card Consalvi sending him a printed copy of letters with Card Litta. I wrote also to Card Litta sending him copies of Mr Gandolphy's letter of 21 Dec. Pat Brickley sent back to Sedgley Park. Dr O'Brien called, no disposition to receive Mr Langrenais. Revd Jeremiah O'Flynn220 called. Shewed me Papers: 1. appointing him Vic Ap of New Holland . 2. recommending him to Irish Bps. 3. giving him power to confirm. 4. releasing him from some obligations of La Trappe. He said he had engaged 3 Irish Priests to go with him, that he had letters to Sir Hen Parnell & the Bp of Norwich, & was anxious through them to get the Sanction of Government. He asked me leave to say Mass, granted, & if I would supply him with Holy Oils, yes. January 25 Mr Delaney & another from Dr O'Brien's congreg came. I answered I could not agree to Mr Langrenais saying Mass in any place with that congregation, in the present circumstances. Mr Short & 6 or 7 more from Virginia Street Congreg came to expostulate against Mr Rolfe's removal. Fifty will come with a petition on Tuesday. I gave them no hopes. Abbe Voyaux 221 has declined the appointment of Canon at S Denis, that he may serve his congregation at Chelsea. A letter from Mr Kimbell wishing in preference to go to Lincoln's Inn Fields 222 . A letter from Mr Billington 2 18

219 220

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222

Presumably Rev. Thomas Costigan (1788-1860), ordained 1817 and later of Southwark Diocese. Rev. Thomas Webster (1757-1828), a priest of the London District. An Irish priest from the Trappists at Lulworth, who left the monastery and volunteered to minister in Australia. He was not recommended by Lord Bathurst, quickly fell out of favour with the Governor and was deported. See note 333. Jean Nicolas Voyaux de Franous, doctor of the Sorbonne, arrived in England in 1793 and lived with the Carpue family at Lincoln's Inn. He taught Sir Robert Peel as a pupil. He opened a chapel at Chelsea, 1812, and was chaplain to the Royal Hospital; died at Chelsea in 1840 (Bellenger, French clergy, with portrait). Sardinian Chapel, founded in 1648; ECP 10,000.

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1817

sending his nephew to Sedgley on Kendal's fund, for the London District. Facultates Dno Gab Le Chevalier 223 pro Anglis in agro Buckinghamiensi prorogantur ad annum. Conceditur Revd Dmno Jos Mic Le Sacred facultas Missam celebrandi in Dist Lond ad 4 menses [Faculties are granted to Abbe Gab Le Chevalier for the English in Buckinghamshire for a year. Permission is granted to Abbe Jos Le Sacred to say Mass in the London District for 4 months] . January 27 Mrs Chumley called for a dispensation for Mr G . Recd a letter from Mrs G of New Hall. I went to audit accounts at Moor Fields with Messrs Hodgson & Bramston. 224 Retrenchments agreed to. Examine whether Ric Chumley 11 old to Sedgley_ January 28 Recd a letter from Dr Bew. Answered Dr, also wrote to Mr Kimbelp25 appointing him to Lincoln's Inn Fields & to Mr Broderick informing him of the same. See copies. Recd deputation from Virginia Street Chapel against Mr Rolfe's removal - I convinced them of the necessity of it. Mrs Tigh called about progress on her estates in Jamaica. Answd Mrs Chumley. Mr Tristram 226 called to ask for the passage in Card Litta's letter concerning Jesuits. Mr M.M. Delaney, student. January 31 Mr Hodgson & I went to Mr Bramston's to settle affairs about J.J. Walker. February 1 I wrote to Dr Bew to settle with Mr Mouchel & come to town next Wednesday. 223

L' Abbe Charles Gabriel Le Chevallier (died 1832), master at Penn School, Bucks; founded by Edmund Burke for French orphaned children and supported for several years by the British government, it closed in 1820 (Bellenger, French clergy).

224 225

226

A mission well before 1740; ECP 30,000. Poynter audited mission accounts in person annually. Rev. Joseph Kimbell (1778-1 835) had succeeded Poynter as president of St Edmund's but had not been successful and was now resigning. Dr Bew agreed to replace him at the College but ill-health forced him to give up the idea. Poynter then approached Lingard before finally appointing Thomas Griffiths, who later became V.A. of the District in 1836. Rev. Joseph Tristram SJ (1766-1843), from Lancashire.

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February 2 I went to Old Hall & told Mr Kimbell to stay till I should bring Mr Bew down, to this he objected, then to stay at least till Tuesday when I would take him to town, no. Mr K said that when a person has made up his mind to go, it was hard to force him to stay longer. February 3 I received Mr Kimbell's cash book, but observed to him that he was in too great a hurry to go off before all was settled, he was bent on it. Reed of Mr Davies for Mr Kimbell rent of Riggory due March 181, £200, deduct taxes, £10 17s 6d = £189 2s 6d. Sent by Mr Kimbell £189 2s 6d. Mr Kimbell left Old Hall Green. February 4 I spent the day examining papers & in entering articles from Mr Kimbell's cash book which he should have entered. Paid ColI £100 on acct for my students. February 5 I returned to town after having inspected Mr Davies' accounts . A letter from Mr Macpherson Jan 11, from Mr Dannery. February 6 A letter from Mr Mouchel stating that Dr Bew could not travel from indisposition. Messrs Bramston, Archer, Rolfe & Haydon met me on the affairs of the ColI. February 7 Wrote to Mr Bowden, Mr Bew, L'Abbe Dannery, Mr Macpherson, Mr Salmon. I signed a statement of distress of Mrs T Clarke recommended by Mr Greenway. Continued faculties to Mr Desorville till end of Jan 1818 & to say 2 Masses on Sundays till 1 July 1817, & letter to Mr Salmon. February 8 Wrote to Bishop Gibson & to Revd T Le Marchand Gosport227. February 9 Wrote to Bp Collingridge, to Mrs M Mardough, Mrs Storey Garstang to enquire how the money sent to them has been spent. 22 7

A mjssion from 1759; ECP 500.

FEBRUARY

1817

February 10 2 o'clock, Mr

Fryer. Audited his accounts. Sent to Mr Lingard,228 Feb 12, copy of Consalvi's letter 19 March 1816 to Reinold, memoire 8 Oct 1814 par M.M. Ie V.G. de Gand, Jugement Doctrinal, Lettre Pastorale de Namur 15 Aug 1815, Journal de Gand 3 Sept 1816, De La Promulgation des Bulles Doctrinales Bruxcelles 1816, Representations respectives 28 July 1815, Instructions Pastorales de Gand 2 Aug 1815, Copies Litt Pie VII 1 May 1816. I told Mr Lingard that the whole of the above must be sent back to me . Desire Mr Mayelerson to pay £2, to Mr Windham's niece, I have ordered Mr Macpherson to pay it. February 11

Mr Bramston & Mr Archer came to consult about Mr Bew's wait. £495 in Mr Lane's (of Arundel) hands left by Mr Wm Booker, £300 for the chaplain's salary at Arundel, £195 for Mrs Parry near Wolverhampton, this £195 has gone to ruin in Mr Lane's hands. Executors of Mr Wm Booker were the said John Lane & Revd Ph Wyndham. Mr Booker had originally left five hundred for the Arundel Chapel,229 of this £300 was left in the hands of Mr Lane above. £200 paid to Mr Wyndham & employed by him in building the chapel at Brighton with an obligation of restoring to the chapel of Arundel. NB £50 have been repaid to Mr Wyndham of the £200 lent to Brighton. The £200 of the £300 = £500 left as a foundation for Masses (viz 26 in block si fieri potest [if possible] for Mrs Booker, his Father, Mother & Sister) to be said at Arundel or elsewhere as the Bp may direct. February 12

Recd a letter from Mr Lingard, wrote to him, wrote to Mr Mouchel to enquire about Dr Bew. I went to Old Hall. February 13

Mr Rolfe came to Old Hall to be Procurator.

228

229

John Lingard (1771-1851), former pupil of Poynter at Douai and renowned Church historian. Poynter recommended him as rector of the Venerabile and invited him to become president of St Edmund's, on both occasions without success. Here Poynter is sending him a number of important documents dealing with current matters. A mission from 1748; ECP 500.

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February 15 Recd a letter from Mr Macpherson dated 25 Jan. I wrote to Bp Gibson giving an extract of Mr Macpherson's letter. Revd Mr Daniel sent on the Mission to Virginia Street Chapel. Given to Mr Cundel in charity to pay rent ÂŁl. February 16 Recd letter from Mr Longsdale of Reading with account of murder of Mr Longuet. 23o Recd letters from Dr Bew & Bp Gibson. February 17 Wrote to Card Litta sending him a printed copy of letters, Bp Collingridge with Lingard's letter, Lingard with Bp ColI's letter of printed correspondence, Mr Kirk 231 with printed correspondence. Mr Cawsdale & Mrs Aston saying I will go to Reading tomorrow. Rev Jer Flynn 3 Skinner St Snow Hill. February 18 I went to Reading & buried Revd Mr Longuet in a vault prepared. Mr Webster met me . I went to Woodley Lodge. Letters recd from Mr Kirk Feb 19, Lingard 14, Bp Cameron 14, Mr Bowdon 15, Mr Marest 18, Mr Storey 18. February 19 I went to Mapledurham 232 to enquire of Mr Lefebre whether Mr Longuet had made a will, none. I examined Papers & returned to Woodley. February 20 Said Office & Mass for the dead. Went to M. Reynard who has ÂŁ65 of Mr Longuet's, to the Mayor, to Stephens & Co & spoke to Herries, they have a power of attorney for 300 consols in name of Longuet alone.

230

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232

L' Abbe Fran90is Longuet, an emigre priest who supported the mission in Reading (a mission from 1780; ECP 500), was stabbed to death on a winter's night, reportedly out of anti-Catholic hatred. John Kirk (1760-1851), ordained English College Rome in 1784, was the author of Biographies of English Catholics in the Eighteenth Century (ed . by J.H. Pollen & E.Burton, 1909). He was a close friend and confidant of Poynter. Home of the Blount family; Rev. Antoine Charles Le Febre was there 1798-1822.

FEBRUARY

1817

February 21 I returned to London, met Mr Cochet, who cannot go to Grenada. Mr Bramston. February 22 Mr Jones called, shewed me two notes from Lord Petre, one telling him not to go to Thorndon. I went to French Ambassador & gave him an account of Mr Longuet. I went to Mr Talbot of Grays Inn who agreed to undertake the settlement of Mr Longuet's affairs. Mr Gye called on Whitrow's affairs, he will call again, 6/8 in Pound. I called on Mr Taster & on Varley about Walker's ÂŁ600, will soon be finished . I wrote to Lingard, see copy.233 February 24 Recd letters from Bp CoIl & Lingard. I sent Mr Longuet's deeds to Mr Talbot. February 25 Messrs Fryer, Wilds, Carpue & Broderick met me. I appointed them with Mr Archer & Card Macioni to examine all my papers concerning Gandolphy & to report on them. Recd a letter from Mr Macpherson dated Feb 1 & one from Mr Tuite. February 26 I went to Lord Bathurst who sent for me to enquire about Revd O'Flynn, dined with Mr Bramston. Appointed Revd C MacDonnell member of the Committee.234 February 27 I wrote to Bps Gibson & Collingridge. I placed ÂŁ903 in hands of Mr Kiernan to be sent to their destination. Recd a letter addressed al Rmo Signre Dne 11 Sgr Gio. Battista Marchini, Proc Gen delle Missione di Cina in Macao . Recommended to me by the Chinese missionaries at Naples, to be forwarded as soon as possible.

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AAW/SEC, Series 12/3. The Consultative Committee of senior priests of the London District.

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February 28 Recd a parcel Mr Gandolphy with a letter & remonstrance. I sent back the remonstrance without reading it. Wrote to Grand Aumonier about Abbe Voyaux. Answd Mr Tuite of 19 Feb. March 1 Sent deeds of Peckham house 235 to Brown & Goldbed, also an abstract of the Title which I received from Barrett & Co. Recd letter from Mr Lingard dated 26, a letter from Mr Danneret dated 20 Feb, wrote to Bp Cameron about resolutions. Ordained Mr Dionysius Ludovicus Cottineau Priest & gave certificate of ordination. March 2 MacCor, Matron St Peter's 13 Knights Bridge. March 3 Answd Lord Petre's of 24th. Recd letter from Mr Griffiths, sent to Mr Wilds Mr Gandolphy's letter of 28 , to Mr Lefebre, to Mr Webster. Wrote to Mr Gerard to say that we cannot continue Mr Phillips longer, as he has no inclination to Eccl state. To old Mr Coombes sending him a copy of printed correspondence with Litta, to Mr Cochet with testimonial. Pay £7.10s to Mr Hodgson for Mr Tuite for Malpas Cat. Mr Thos Varling has paid on Bond to Walkers Estate Principal £600, Int to 1 March include £34.11s 10d. Paid to Bramston £634.1 Is 10d. Conceditur Dno Berry facul tas administrandi omnia sacra parochiala omnibus Gallice loquentibus ad 6 menses [Faculties are granted to Mr Berry to administer all the sacraments to all who speak French, for 6 months] . Deplang, 22 Skinner St. Dirty altar. Moxley boy year 12. March 4 Speak to Mr H about Neilly. Mrs Collier about Joseph George Robson at Sedgley l3 yrs old to remain at Sedgley two years paid by his F riends, then to be in the College, his Friends paying £20 pa. March 5 Wrote to Mr Havard, to Miss Beaver, Moor Hale, enclosing half of £20 bank note No 10701 8 June 1816, sent other half Apr 15

235

The mission of Peckham appa rently consisted of a reli gious house; ECP 500. Kelly says the mission at Peckham only started a bout 1850.

MARCH

1817

1817. Recd letter from Mr Lingard & from Mr Salmon. Wrote to Mr Gye referring him to Mr Norris, to Mr Macpherson sending the last leaf of Orthodox236 for Feb. To Jones of Pontop acknwing that the 1000 is his property, to Mr Stapleton. March 6 Recd a letter from Bp Gibson & Mrs Aston. Appointed Mr Norris to settle Whitrow's business with Mr Gye. March 8 Recd letter from Mr Eccles. Wrote to Mr Rolfe & to Bp Gibson . March 10 Recd letters from Bps Gibson & Collingridge. Answd Bp Collingridge. Sent papers with Hayes letter to Bp Gibson. March 11 Recd letters from Bishop Cameron, Mr Rolfe, Mr Webster & Mr Clifford. Answd Mr Eccles, wrote to C. Longuet, Caen. To Magehuan with copy of Hayes' letter. Sent paper to Bp Collingridge. S. H. Parnell moves for a Committee to take into account the state of the Realm. Laws at present affecting the R .C . in the 3 parts of the United Kingdom. Notice was given by Mr Broughan Feb 19, was not brought on. 237 March 12 Recd a letter from Lingard with his work. Wrote to Mr Griffiths & to Lingard. Mr Carr born in Dublin Parish St Patrick in 1797, has been 8 years in England, says mind made up to remain in England. 238 March 13 Recd a letter from Mr Eccles & Mr Griffiths. Went to Mr Bramston on Lingard's work.

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238

The Catholic Orthodox Journal , founded 1813 and strongly pro-Milner; met with papal disapproval and closed in 1820; see Phillips, Lingard Remembered, pp. 66-9. The Irish MP, Sir Henry Parnell (later Baron Congleton), was a strong advocate of Catholic Emancipation; Mr Brougham (later Baron Brougham and Vaux) was at this time leader of the Commons (DNB). William Carr of Dublin was ordained for the London District in 1823.

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March 14 Gave Keating Lingard's work to print. I reprimanded him for two passages in Catholicism.239 Wrote to Mr Griffiths . Sent to French Ambassador the extract of a baptism. March 17 Sung High Mass at St Patrick's. Mr Rolfe called. Wrote to Bp Milner. March 18 Went to Mr Bramston. March 19 Recd letter from Mr Gandolphy dated this day. March 21 Wrote to Mr Tuite & Mr Daniel. Sent Observations 24o to Bps Griffith, Gibson & Collingridge. March 22 Recd a letter from Bp Milner. Wrote to Mr Lingard & to Mr Rolfe. Philip Scott arrived from Lisbon which he left on 6th, sent to England on account of weak health having broke a blood vessel. March 23 Confirmed Ricd Waterton Christopher [sic] 1.Lee. March 24 Recd letter from Rome, Litta dated Mar 1 in answer to mine of 23 Dec, 2 from Macpherson, 1 & 6 March. Went to Golden Square. 241

239 240 24 1

Perhaps a reference to the journal Catholicon, launched in January 1816 and edited by Keating. Lingard's pamphlet, Observations on the Laws and Ordinances . .. Roman Catholic Subjects, Keating and Brown, London 1817. After Poynter's death the London Vicars Apostolic moved from Castle St. to Golden Square.

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1817

March 25 Sent copies of letters from Rome to Bps Cameron & Gibson, & to Bp Cameron a copy of Observations [sic} & of Resolutions. 242 Also a copy of Resolutions to Bp Gibson. March 26 Sent copy of letters from Rome & Collingridge.

of Resolutions to Bp

March 27 Recd a letter from Bp Smith 243 & Mr White, answd both. Ordered Keating not to issue any Copy either of Observations or Resolutions . March 28 Wrote to Mr Gandolphy & to Card Litta. April 5 Mr J Dannery244 arrived from Joburgh to go to Grenada. Ordained Mr Thomas Costigan Subdeacon at St Edmund's. April 7 I returned to town. April 8 Went to Lord Bathurst with Mr Dannery, must call on Wednesday 16th at 3 o'clock. April 10 I called on Dr Murray & Dr Everard. I reduced onera M .M. [Mass obligations] to be said by Mr C McDonnell as Provincial. April 11 Sir J C Hippisley called on me . I went to Mr Bramston.

242

243 244

The Resolutions were drafted by Lingard, agreed by the V.As (except Milner) and printed in 1817. Like the pamphlet, they dealt with the relations between State and Church; Poynter and the other V.As had doubts about them and Poynter withdrew them before publication- see entry for 27 March (Phillips, Lingard Remembered, pp. 4-5). Bishop Thomas Smith, coadjutor to Bishop Gibson, V.A. of the Northern District, whom he succeeded in 1821 (Brady 3, pp. 272-8). The proposed successor to Le Planquais in the West Indies.

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April 14

Went to Mr Wilds concerning G's report. Speak to Mr Hunt about Jarrett for the Church. April 15

Wrote to Card Litta. Pay to Mr Hodgson Distr Acc for Mr Tuite. 1 Rental pro Cath recd by me from Mr Bramston Jan 22 ÂŁ7.10s. Item Int on money due Ap, ÂŁ10. April 16

I went to Ld Bathurst about Mr Dannery. April 17

St Patrick's Dinner to which I did not go because I could not appear there as Patron . The church belongs to V.A.245 Recd a letter from Mr Gay about his dole. April 18

I sent to invite Mr Gandolphy to come tomorrow at 1 o'clock. I recd a dozen copies of a printed Paper dated Apr 15. April 19

Mr Gandolphy came & in presence of Mr H Bight refused to hear the Declaration I had prepared for him to sign. Mr Lingard came. Recd letter from Mr Mayaheron dated Mar 29 . April 20

I recd a letter from Mr Gand asking if I required his signature; a copy of the Decln to him. April 21

I went to Mr Wilds & heard the remainder of the report. I gave Mr Lingard copies of my Latin 'Epistola Apologetica,246 of the report of Mr Wilds, of the remarks on Ristretto,247 on Bp Milner, on memoirs, with letters to La Tille, Litta, Consalvi, Brancadoro & Appizzoni.

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T he chapel had been handed over by the Irish chaplains to the Vicar Aposto lic; ECP 7000. Transla ted by Butler (London 1820) . The ' Ristretto ' was a controversial summary by M acpherson of letters he had received from Poyn te r in 1813 concerning parli amentary Bills on emancipati on; see Ward 2, pp. 76-9.

APRlL 1817

April 22 Mr Lingard & Ld Stourton set off. I wrote to Gandolphy & to Litta. April 23 Went to Baptist Head Coffee House concernmg new chapel of Moor Fields.248 April 24 Went to Mr Bramston & to Mr Wilds to shew them Pastoral concerning Gandolphy, gave it to Mr Keating to be printed. Went to Transport office, & to Mr Goulburn 249 at Colonial. Gave faculties to Revd Mt: Dannery for Grenada. Wrote by him to Mr Coquet & to Revd Mr Planguais revoking Mr Planguais' faculties. Recd letter from Mr Gandolphy. April 25 Revd Mr Dannery set off for Portsmouth, to sail to Barbados on his way to Grenada. April 26 Sent Pastoral Instruction concerning Gandolphy to all the chapels in District, also to Bps Gibson & Collingridge with a letter to Bp Col1.25o April 27 The Pastoral was read in all the chapels. April 28 I went to Baptist Head Aldermanbury to meet the Committee for new chapel. April 29 Sent copy of Pastoral to Card Litta & Mr Macpherson.

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Which was to become the Pro-Cathedral; details are provided in the Diaries later. The Secretary of State for Ireland. It was a very lengthy and detai led account of the the disciplinary procedures that had been taken regarding the publications of Gandolphy, entitled 'FACTS' . Copy in AAW /SEC.

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May 1

Called on Irish Bishops & Lord Fingal1. 251 May 2

Irish Bishops dined with me. Wrote to Card Litta on Bp Milner. May 4

Wrote to Mr Tuite, I gave him a promise of ÂŁ24 pa from Ecd fund for money sunk by him, viz ÂŁ511 ISs. May 5

Dined at Sir 1 C Hippisley's with Drs Murray & Everard, Sir H Parnell & Mr Thornley. Catholic children in Military Schools, a General Order from the Adjutant Genl's Office directing that the children of Cath parents shall in no instance be compelled to go to attend during the service of the Established Church nor to learn the Prot Catechism. May 6

Recd a letter from Mr Longuet of Caen 252 & from Mr Reynard of Reading, answd & wrote to Litta & Macpherson sending British papers to both. May 7

Ld Dormer 253 called. I pay for Miles Dormer at Old Hall as far as Mrs Heneages money will permit. Answd Secretary of Committee for Germ Chapel (M A Martia) approving Mr los Lesher as Treasurer. Wrote to Mrs Lane saying I want to be mindful of her little boy when I have the means of putting him to school. May 12

Dined at Sir 1 Hippisley's with Drs Murray & Everard, Sir H Parnell & Mr Thornley.

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252 253

The Earl of Fingall, the sole Irish Catholic peer qualified to sit in the House of Lords after Emancipation, was sympathetic to the English Catholic point of view (Machin, p. 11). See note 270. Relation of Rev. Frans:ois Longuet; see note 230 above. The 11 th Baron Dormer of Wyng took his seat in the Lords in 1829; the 10th Baron had sat there but only after conforming to the C. of E. (Gillow; Ward 3, p. 265).

MAY - JUNE

1817

May 13

Wrote to Mr Macpherson sending British Papers & to Litta sending Gandolphy's paper. Recd a letter from Mr Longuet of Caen & from Mr Reynard. May 14

Recd a letter from Mr Gandolphy dated 13th. May 19

Given an order for Mr Hodgson at Wright's for £15 .15s. May 26

Mrs Catherine Walmesley No 12 North St Pentonville £200 for education (Madgurith & Cooper). May 27

Mat Walms leaves £200 for girls school at Somerstown, £300 for Eccl education at St Edmund's = £500 but to be applied only after the death of his wife. May 30

Wrote to Mr Fletcher & to Mr Arundel. Sent to Mr Wilds more papers relating to Gandolphy cause. June 2

Recd a letter from Mr Macpherson dated May 10 & one from Litta including an answer from Inquisition to certain cases. June 4

Granted the dispensation to Mr Southworth 254 a cultus disparitate [from disparity of cult]. June 6

Granted dispensation to Mr Delaney 1st degree affinity.

254

Rev. Richard Southworth (1743-1817), of the family of the martyr St John Southworth, was a former teacher of William Poynter at Douai and was frequently consulted by him on important matters. For 30 years missioner at Brockhampton, Poynter's native mission, his tombstone is in the grounds of St Thomas a Becket Church, Warblington. (See November 25 below.)

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June 9

The Duke of Norfolk, Sir J Throckmorton & Mr Jerningham came to present to me a resolution of the Board. June 10

I sold out the £698 .16.10 belonging to J Sherrott Senior for £504. 8s. June 11

Mr Hunt called to answer on his accounts to Mr Jerningham, Kiernan, King, Power. Most unsatisfactory. Last, 13 yrs old, 3 South St Marylebone. June 13

R J Greenham died at Bruton RIP. Recd letter from Mr Macpherson of 24 May & from Mr Tuite announcing death of Mr Farquharson at Paris. June 14

Facultas Dno Capagnan binandi ad 6 menses [Faculty to Rev. Capagnan to binate for 6 months]. Sent to Mr Archer to look into the state of the altar of Mr Deplang No 22 Skinner Street. June 15

Gave Confirmation at Mitcham - 32. June 16

Recd a letter from Revd J Gillow of Ushaw relating to Thos GillOW. 255 Wrote to Revd Gillow. Chapel Witham Place. 256 Number 40 children combined. Property of house, Chapel & Premises Lord Stourton. Salary for Priest £80 pa pd by Lord Stourton, taxes £7.1 Os paid by him. Poor money £22; for particular objects also paid by him. Half year salary £40 taxes £3 .18s Poor £11 Total £54.18s pd by Wrights for Ld Stourton. June 17

I wrote to Mr Daniel claiming £601 6s 6d of Prescott's money.

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Rev. John Gillow (1753-1828) was the second president of Ushaw. Rev. Thomas GiUow (1769-1857) of the Northern District declined appointment as V.A. of the West Indies in 1818. Witham Place, Essex. An early mission, supported by the Stourton family' ECP 500.

JUNE 1817

June 21 Mr Dannet called from Witham Place. Dr Bew, Mr Archer, Mr Broderick dined . Dr Bew President. Recd the common letter signed by Bp Gibson concerning Collingridge, Chisholm & Paterson to the Pope. Revd Dno Georgio Michaeli Adelmann Parocho facultatem Missam celebrandi et omnia sacramenta Parochia administrandi in Distr Lond ad tres menses [To the Rev George Michael Adelmann Parish Priest faculty to offer Mass and administer all parochial sacraments in the London District for three months]. Hic parochus naufragio periit prope Yarmouth de Insula Vectis die 13 Aug RIP [This parish priest was drowned in a shipwreck near Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, on 13 Aug]. June 23 Prorogantur facultates Dno Joan Bap Fleury ad finem anni 1818 [Faculties to Rev. Jean Baptiste Fleury to the end of 1818]. June 24 Mr Henry, John Barber called with Mr Becker on Cape of Good Hope. Miss Taylor gave £30, St Patrick's School £5, M .M . Mother & family £10, Associated Charities £15. Recd from Dr Smith copy of his letter to Card Litta sent to Mr Macpherson, the letter signed by Bps Gibson, Cameron, Collingridge, Chisholm , Smith & Paterson to the Pope. Wrote to Mr Irwin, sent letter to Mr Dannery. June 26 Mr Hunt 257 called, I told him he must leave Westminster Chapel. Facultas Dno Marchand apud Gosport binandi usque ad finem anni item Dno Cocker [Faculty to Abbe Marchand at Gosport to binate Mass until the end of the year, also to Abbe Cocker]. At Chatham between 60 & 80 children, about 40 boys 30 girls. Schoolmaster Ridey only £20 from 6 to 9 in evening. Next house let to Mr Parminster clerk in the Dock yard for £26 5s. From Chatham to Sheerness 25 8 20 miles . At Sheerness about 50 Caths. Mr Salmon's intention to establish land for school at Bramston. Mr Salmon has money at Wright's. June 28 Mrs Hodgson lent £10 to be repaid in 10 months . I wrote to Bps Gibson & Collingridge. Licentia Dno Pat Brennan Missam cele257 258

Rev. Joseph Hunt (1765-1841), priest of the London District. A mission from 1812; ECP 500.

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brandi ad unum mensem [Permission to Rev Pat Brennan to say Mass for one month]. He is going to Rome with a recommendation from Dr MacCorcoran Bp of Kildare. 259 Recd a letter from Card Litta to be forwarded to China. It cost £215, enclosing one from Mr Lingard dated June 5. Mr Lingard arrived in Rome May 26, he left Paris May 2. June 30

Wrote to Mr Wheeler to be Rome agent. Letters from Mr Loquet Grenada & Goff Martinique & Lord Petre.260 July 1

Wrote to Mr Macpherson. Went to Mr Bramston, on T J & M Griffiths affairs, settled. July 2

Wrote to Lord Petre about Mr Varley & to Mr Biddulph about Mr Hunt. Dr Gibbons an Irish Dominican respectable dined with me & Messrs Bramston, Archer, Wilds, Broderick. July 3

Wrote to Dr Gibbons concerning Gandolphy affair. Sent to Dr Gibbons Lingard's Observations & 2 razors to Macpherson. Paid ColI for students £950 . From Mr Brown £5 for poor schools. July 4

Wrote to Dr Bew, Mr Shaw, Mr Eyston. 261 Recd letter from Litta dated June 14, enclosing a letter for Mr Kirk which I forwarded today. July 5

Went to Mr Bramston & Broderick's on Litta's letter. Wrote to Bps Collingridge, Gibson & Smith. July 8

Mr Gandolphy signed his declaration.

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Michael Corcoran, Bishop of Kildare 1815-19. A leading member of the Catholic Board whose family built and maintained the chapel at Thorndon. Charles Eyston, sheriff of Berkshire. Mission of East Hendred.

JULY

1817

101

July 9

I conducted Dr Bew to St Edmund's. July 10

Mr Gandolphy published his retractation. July 12

I returned to London with Mr Bramston & absolved Mr Gandolphy from his suspension & renewed his faculties . July 23

Returned to town from St Ed's. July 24

J os Deehy & Mr Tucker called about chaplain of School of Westminster, about 15,000 in Westminster. Mr Gandolphy called, expects that I should have corrected his works. Went to St George's Fields to audit accounts . July 25

Mr Stonor called. Mr Massey of Coventry called. Mr Ch McDonnell called promised Mr Sumner for Westminster. Wrote to Card Consalvi about Gradwell enclosed to Mr Macpherson. July 26

Wrote to Mr Thompson, Bp Smith, Bp CoIl, Mr Macpherson, Bp Smith about Mr J 0 for Colonies. July 28

Went to Lord Bathurst about Cape of Good Hope, he will pay at least for one priest, & about Mauritius he will write about Abbe Charlot to Govnr also about V.A. in West Indies, he consents. Examine if place at Sedgely for Mic StockIer 7 yrs old. July 29

Wrote to Mgr Macchi Lisbon. Jos Silveira Lisbon. Mr Buckley. July 30

Went to College.

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July 31 Letter from Mr Gerardern about detention of books at Weymouth. Mrs Aubert returning to England. Mr Spain. Mr Tasker about Peckham. Letter from Mr Macpherson July 12. August 2 Returned to town . James O'Brien, Dr Tuohy Limerick. August 4 John Clarke born in London, convert, 23 yrs old, baptd conditionally by Mr Underhill of Leeds, parents Prot, go to College as Master in Prep School. Wm Connor 11 yrs old, Mr Broderick. August 5 Laid the first stone of the new Chapel in Moor Fields. Wrote to Mr Cottineau about Cape of Good Hope. August 6 Dr Brien leaves not before end of month. Thos Duggan will pay ÂŁ10 pa for boy 7 yrs old, wrote to Dr Bew. Appointed Albanus Danneville Pastor of Crondon Park, faculties ad annum. 262 August 7 Recd a letter from Mr Macpherson dated July 19, a letter from Lord Arundel. Wrote to Mr Jn Hill & Mr Gradwell. I went with Drs Fingal & Clifford to pay for Schools. Prorogatur facultas binandi Capillanis de Virginia St ad 22 Jan 1818 [Permission renewed for the chaplains at Virginia St to binate Mass until 22 Jan 1818]. August 8 Wrote to Dr Bew to put Costigan in retreat & about students for Rome, to Mr MacLuson, to Ld Arundel, Mr Langrenais to recall Engl faculties - see opposite. Wrote to Mr Langrenais recalling all faculties hitherto given, givin~ faculties for the French & telling him to apply to Mr Archer2 3 next January. Mrs White owes to St Ed's Apr 1815 - ÂŁ363.l7s.lOd. Recd letter from Mrs

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L'Abbe Danneville's proper name was Aubin Cabart d'Anneville. He had worked previously in Dumfries and Carlisle (Bellenger, French clergy). Crandon Park in Essex was a mission from the early 1800s; ECP 500. Poynter had appointed Archer Vicar General for the French priests.

AUGUST

1817

103

Geraldine New Hall, answd granting leave to profess Mary Teresa Bunery. August 9 Wrote to Bp Gibson, Mr Gillow, Mr Salmon. Facultates Revd Dno Marest264 in Districtu Londonensis. [Faculties to the Rev. Mr Marest in the London District]. Fowler at School, 12 yrs old, Mr Murry has promised the money for the school. August 11 Letters from Bp Collingridge, Dr Bew, Mr Cottineau. Wrote to Dr Bew. Mr Martin of East Lane congregation 265 called about Langrenais saying Mass there. No. Mr Walsh of Durham called. Mr Ricd Gillow ' offered to make over house, chapel & furniture to me, answd yes. Mr Angelo calling offered 2 shillings for new ch after 15th. Lord Dormer will repay £43.0s.3d for Master Dormer, acct of Ph&B. Misses Keatings have recd £2 for Curate of Warwick. August 12 Ansd Mrs Warmesley. Dr O'Brien called. Letter from Mr Tuite of 29 June, by Mr Bishop of 8 Aug by Post, granted leave to endow the son of Count Jules Polignac. August 13 James O'Brien gone to ColI. Mr Lingard returned. Went to School at Lambs Buildings. I went with Mr Wollett to value the furniture in house in East Lane. Mr Jarrett will pay £10 pa for his son. Remember Js Cobb. August 14 Letter from Mr Macpherson to Mr Hodgson including one from Galeassi to me. Granted dimissorials to Scott to receive orders from Bp of Arras or any other Cath Bishop ad tit mission or Patrimonii. 266 Archbp of Rheims, Tallyrand, Ancien-Eveque de Landres, Luyorne, Dr d'Alais, Baufret, made Cardinals. The

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L' Abbe Jean Baptiste Marest (1768-1849), of the Diocese of Coutances served at Wardour 1801-17 and Canford 1817-25. Bermondsey, a mission from 1773. ECP 9000. Ordination 'ad titulum missionis', i.e. for the secular priesthood; ordination 'ad titulum patrimonii ' meant an ordinand had sufficient means to support himself.

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deeds of the freeehold Chapel at Hampstead 267 were signed by Messrs Lercher, Power, Lund, McCarthy, Coppinger, Armstrong, Whiteside, Kelly. See the Chapel book at Hampstead. NB my name is in the deeds . August 15 Mr Lingard, Bramston, Archer dined. August 16 Granted exeat to Mr Law. Wrote to Dr Bew, Bp Gibson & Bp Collingridge. Facultas conceditur Revd Marles & Dno Vick Cappucinio Hispanis Missam celebrandi ad unum mensem - commendatus a Patre Creighton Dominicano Hibernensi. Licentia Missam celebrandi et Sac Penit administrandi ad tres menses Suchias Hidaverdi Constalno, et Sergio Theodori Paliasano commendatis, et inspectis literis [Permission to say Mass for one month granted to the Revv Maries & Vick, a Capuchin, Spanish priests, recommended by Fr Creighton an 1rish Dominican. Permission to say Mass and administer the sacrament of penance for 3 months granted to Suchias Hidaverdi Constainus, and to Sergius Theodore Paiiasanus. They have been recommended and their papers are in order]. August 17 Thos Costigan, 28 Jan, ordained Priest chapel of St George's Fields. August 18 Reed letter from Mr Dannery of Grenada, with offer of ÂŁ50 to repay expenses. Mr Wm Witham & Mr P Maxwell called for a dispensation 2nd & 3rd affinities. August 19 Reed a duplicate of ÂŁ50, with a letter from Mr Lonquet. Went to ColI with Mr Lingard & Kirk. Miss More died RIP August 20 Returned.

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St Mary's, Hampstead , opened and blessed by Bishop Poynter in 1816. A mission from 1796, founded by Abbe Morel; ECP 500.

AUGUST

1817

105

August 21 Wrote to Mr Chevrollais 268 to tell him to send James Henrick on Tuesday next, viz £10 pa to include his pocket money. Revd Joa Bap Cubert appointed to Thorndon, facultates Miss. Given to Poplar School £5 received from A.B. August 22 Dr O'Brien called, send Mr Woollett on Monday 8 o'clock. Mr James Hill called. Paid to Mr Hodgson £50 off from Grenada to repay expenses of Mr Dannery. Signed a deed for Mrs Wacherbath for a piece of ground at Virg Street £5 pa, rent. August 26 James Henrick goes to Eccl Seminary. His father pays £10 pa including pocket money. August 28 Recd letter from Silveira, Lisbon. Bp Cameron with dispensation for Mr Maxwell. Signed the deed of purchase of freehold ground at Poplar for poor school, names Poynter, Hodgson, Tuite & Kimbell. Facultates Dno Augusto Hue ad revocationem Southend [Faculties granted to Rev Augustus Hue until revoked at SouthendJ. Robt Warman Nr Newbury 17 old. Granted dispensation to Miss Dorothy Witham 2 & 3 affinities to marry Mr James Maxwell of Hirthcrunell, Bp Cameron having granted a disp to him. August 29 Mr Farfan of Trinidad called with a letter from Bp Smith, at Thiols Hotel Bucklersbury near Exchange. Revd Dno Ed Scoti facultates ad annum . Conced facult Dno Christiano Schutte licentia Missam celebrandi ad finem anni [Faculties granted to Dom Ed Scott for a year. To Rev. Christian Schutte to say Mass to the end of the year]. Saw Mr Fryer who promised to propose to a lady to invest in my name, his & hers, have 48 in the consols left by late Revd Smythe.

268

L'Abbe Franyois Joseph Chevrollais: in England from 1793; in 1803 in Edmonton, Middlesex, and in 1809 at Stratford, Essex. He opened a new chapel there (Sts Vincent and Patrick) in 1813, and two schools in 1816 and 1818; he died in 1823 and was buried in St Mary's, Moorfields (Bellenger, French clergy).

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September 1 Sullivan left ColI ill health. O'Brien left, not fit. Mr Hill arrived at ColI. Dr O'Brien left the chapel at Redriffe. Paid for Dr O'Brien's furniture £73 .12s. September 2 Eccl Seminary founded at Old Hall, the Seminarists being led over from the CoI1.269 Wrote to Grimouville Jersey, to Dr Bew, to Mr Costigan. Ordered £30 to be placed to Bew & Rolfe. September 4 Saw Ld Fingall, Killeen, R.Plunkett, Dean, Jones about Woolhampton, either to make it over to us or to give us the value with £1000 principal. 27o Wrote to Mr Birch, to Lord Barber, Holland, Rolfe, Everard & Buckley, to Mr Coombes & Lord Deighton, Dr Blount. Harty Blount with £39 pa. Revd Mr Stewart at Greenwich has taken a lease of a house in Dartford for a school at £12 pa rent. The freehold may be purchased with 12 yrs for maximum £250, pd to Master £52 pa, to Mistress £26 pa, 80 boys 60 girls. September 5 Answd Mr Sherbourne about Serjeant, consider Delaney. Wrote to Mr Jarrett to send his son next Monday, with £10 pa. Wrote to Mr Mayshern. September 6 Wrote to Mr Webster to get certificate of Cat. bap, to Bp Smith. Wrote to priests & congregations of Hampshire, of Sussex & Kent, giving notice of my intention to visit them. Wrote to Card Consalvi, Mr Macpherson, Mr Mackenzie at Paris by Sir J Hippisley.

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The thirteen junior ecclesistical students were taken by the vice-president, Thomas Griffiths, from the main college to live in the Old Hall. The Earls of Fingall had lived for a tjme at Woolhampton in the 18th century and built a chapel and priest's house there. When the estate was sold, the chapel and house were not included and land was left to support the priest. It is not clear how the dispute mentioned here arose; perhaps Lord Fingall still claimed ownership and Poynter was keen to get control of it for the District (Kelly, p. 446; Hadland, Thames Valley Papists, pp. 144,147,152).

SEPTEMBER

1817

107

September 8 Recd a letter from Mr Cottineau in answer to my proposal to go to the Cape of Good Hope, not favourable . Agreed to send Mr Corr to the ColI, has paid £30 & promises £10 next year & the year after. Attested Mr Hodge's signature to two certificates of baptism of Miss Butler & her Brother. September 10 I wrote again to Mr Barker to take the appointment of Peckham. Desired Mr Bramston to pay Mr Smith £11 lOs . September 11 Letter from Mr . Griffiths, Mr Biddulph & Mr Conway. Letters from Rome dated 23 Aug, Card Litta, Macpherson & one to be forwarded to Bombay. Dno Godquin271 de Reading facultates ad finem anni [Faculties to Rev. Godquin at Reading until the end of the year]. September 12 Mr Costigan enters on the Mission, faculties granted him ad revocationem, Ric Sumner OFM ad consuetum tempus renovationis [to Richard Sumner OFM until the usual time of renewal]. Letter from Revd T Gillow consenting. Mr Fletcher 272 about Dr O'Conor. Wrote to Card Litta. Le Telling at Reading & Lande favourable to Blanchard. Mr Le Tellier for a Lady from Liege faculties. September 13 Dno Giles de Waterford licentia Missam celebrandi ad 1 mensem [Permission for Rev. Giles of Waterford to say Mass for one month]. September 14 Preached at Mr Costigan's Chapel East Lane. Ordained Mr Riley. September 15 Left at Ld Bathurst's office state of proposal for West India V.A. Wrote to Mr Lonquet Grenada, to Dr Bew, to Mr Fletcher, Windwood sending Dr O'Conor's letter.

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L'Abbe Jean Frans;ois Nicolas Godquin (1746-1818), priest of the Diocese of Rouen . Rev. John Fletcher (1766-1845) published several volumes of sermons.

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September 16 Went to College. Wrote to Mr Tuite & Mr Macpherson. Mic Henry Neale 14 Lincoln's Inn Fields. September 18 Returned from College with Mat Argyle who leaves on account of bad constitution. Letter from Macpherson dated 30 Aug. Wrote to Stapleton, de la Rue, & Mr Wyndham. Mr Dodwell 84 Wimpole Street. September 19 Facultates Dno Car ad Langrenais administrandi Sac Parochia (excepto Matrim) Gallis in Dist Lond morantibus ad finem anni 1818 cum facultate binandi sacra parochia [Faculties granted to Abbe Charles Langrenais to administer the Parochial sacraments (except Matrimony) to the French residing in the London District with the faculty to binate Masses until the end of 1818]. September 22 Mr Gradwellieft for Rome. September 23 I went with Mr Bramston to Southampton 273 on a visitation of part of the District. September 30 Mr Gradwell left Paris to go by Dol, Geneve, Milan to Rome. October 14 Returned to London. October 15 I wrote to Mr Havard to say Kenyon's Masses from death of Mr Williams. Wrote to Lieut G Pigott to call on me. Recd a duplicate of Ld Bathurst's answer to me on proposal relating to a Bp in the West Indies. October 16 Wrote to Mr Stapleton sending him ÂŁ17 lOs Mission & ÂŁ10 for repairs of Chapel to Mr White.

273

A mission from 1816; ECP 500.

OCTOBER

1817

109

October 17 I saw Mr Archer & recommended charitable donation, portion for vestments to Burton, Greenwich, for repairs Chatham,274 Brecon, Redriffe, St Patrick's. I went to CoIl with Mr Sylveira. I wrote to Mr Goulburn to acknowledge receipt of the duplicate. I wrote to Card Litta. October 18 Mr Tierney sent home for a time on account of bad state of health. [October 20 - 26 written in pencil while on boat to France; now illegible.J October 21 Allowed reduction of Masses by Dean of Chapter. Lent a gilt chalice to Mr Salmon at Brompton to be returned by him when called for. October 27 Wrote to Mr Hodgson. Mr Long275 called, explained the Ordonnance of 17 Sept276 assuring that it subjects the administration of colleges in every respect to the Bureau,277 viz as to the finances of government of them, an account to be given monthly to Bureau, all monies not necessary for current expenses to be put in the hands of the Bureau, only so much to be left in the hands of the superiors as the Bureau thinks proper, an annual state of the acct to be submitted to the Bureau, the observations of the Bureau to be submitted to the Minister of the Interior, besides a satisfactory account to be given of the conduct of the Superior relative to their government in the past. They are 274 275

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Brompton and Chatham, a mission from 1795; ECP 500. Rev. Paul Long, in charge of the Irish College in Paris after the departure of Ferris (see following notes 276, 277) . This new royal ordonnance came as a surprise, for a previous one, of January ] 816, had seemed more favourable and had left the issue of compensation to the English Commissioners to determine- though this also raised problems about whether the uses of the former colleges would be deemed 'superstitious' and therefore illegal under English law. See Ward 3, chap. XLI, on the whole complex question. Bureau Gratuit de Surveillance. Poynter refuted the claim of this body to administer Douai College, which had been in English hands for over two hundred years. Yet Richard Ferris had cleverly manipulated the officials to allow him the tenure of the buildings.

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responsible to the Board for the admission or dismission of the Secretary, but that it is particularly to be noted that the Superiors who do not comply punctually to the conditions & directions of the ordonnance are to be severed from their functions, & when it appears that the ordonnance is nothing else than a measure for the removal of the present superiors & the restoration of Ferris & C0 278 who will by this means get possession of all our property. I saw the Bp of Chartres who read the ordonnance, said it was a total subjection of us to the Bureau, that it was highly necessary that I should have come over. He talked of the necessity of our being under some surveillance, go to him on Tuesday at 4. I went to Prossigny & Bp of Besan90n, he advised to go to Sir C Stuart. Said that the regulation concerning Instruction publique can & should only regard the Establishment of the subjects of France, that our houses & property are our own under the protection of the Law of France & that we should ask for them put on the same footing as before the Revolution. Wrote to Mr Hodgson. October 28 Asked an audience of Sir C Stuart. 279 Went to the consecration of the Bp of Samorate Abbe Quelan. October 29 Went to Sir Charles Stuart's. Left a note of petition October 30 Called on Sir C Stuart, he had spoken to Richelieu 280 who said that the French Government had only used its right of making regulations for houses of education within its dominions. Sir Charles said he did not know what answers to give. I explained the case to him, he said he wished he had understood it before, that if I would state it to him in writing he would go again to Richelieu, he told me to close it with a petition. Given in charity to Sims-24ff.

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280

Dr Richard Ferris, fonner student of the Irish CoUege, had had himself appointed in 1814 Head of the Combined English Co lleges in France in order to found an establishment in Paris for the cultivation of arts and sciences. He was ejected in 1815, but reinstated by Napoleon. On the restoration of the King he was again ejected on a charge of fraud (Ward 2, pp. 256-68). Sir Charles Stuart, half brother of Lord Castlereagh. ambassador to Paris 181524, later Baron Stuart de Rothsay 1845. Duc de Richelieu, French minister.

OCTOBER - NOVEMBER

1817

111

October 31 Paid for new suit of clothes ÂŁ7.1Ss.8d. I prepared a full statement for Sir Charles. Wrote to Mr Bramston. The Bp of Samorate called & talked in a very friendly [way J offering of his services to us. November l I sent the statement & petltIOn to Sir Charles. I called on Sir Charles, he said he was perfectly well satisfied with my statement & would send me the answer he should receive from Richelieu. I drew up an expo see in French. Bp of St Malo called, read & approved of my exposee in French. November 3 Mr Gradwell arrives in Rome. Washed cravats 4 + 3, shirts 3, handchiefs 1, night shirt 1, socks 2, drawers 1, waistcoat 1 pd 4s Sd. 28 1 I went to the Bp of Chartres, he read my exposee & approved of it, advised me to take no other steps till I got an answer from Sir Charles. I left a card for the Cardinal & Bp of Samorate. Went to Card lules Polignac for Intrd who said it did not engage him, that we could not expect to be exempt from a Surveillance, that the ordonnance was grounded on complaints. In the evening I went to the Tuileries, saw the Cardinal, but could not speak to him on business. November 4 I called Mr Long & on Mr Ferry, he approved of my exposee, advised me to wait till Sir C Stuart's answer, then to go to Richelieu, Laine. 282 I wrote to Bp Gibson & Mr Bramston. I dined with Sisteron the Archbp of Toulouse, Bp of St Diniz, Abbe des lardins at les peches. November 5 Abbe Carron283 spent some time with me & corrected the exposee and demande. November 6 I called at Sir Charles Stuart's, he said he had not yet been given an answer, but that he wanted it as soon as possible. I called on

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The detailed costs of clothes and laundry are a recurring feature in the Diaries. Laine was the French Minister of the Interior. See note 171 above.

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Sir Ed Bellow, he said the ordonnance was published in the Irish press with a letter from an Irish gentleman approving of it because now justice would be done to those who had a right to the Burses in the Irish College. Abbe Primord called & mentioned that the University of Paris had required that the eIeves of the Little Episque seminaries to be sent to the Lycees & schools of the University & that the seminaries had resisted, that they were supported, 1. by a sentence of the tribunal de instance, 2. by a system of the tribunal of appeal, 3. by one of the tribunal's declarations, but that at last an ordonnance was obtained signed by the King & Minister of the Interior & requiring them to send their Eleves to the university. November 7 I called on Lan<;on about our claims, he assured me they had been sent by our English Commissioners to the French Commissioners & that every possible expedition was used. November 8 Wrote to Mr Hodgson, sent copy of my statement to Sir C Stuart. Wrote to Card Consalvi. Abbe Treverne called, advises me to speak to Card Luzerne.284 Sent two copies of the Exposee to Sir Ch Stuart with a note. Mgr Asteras [Astros 285 ] called. November 9 Recd a note from Sir Charles, answered the same. November 10 Wrote to Mr Macpherson by Mr Bonelli, also to Mr Gradwell giving an account of the object of my present journey to Paris, & a copy of my letter to Card Litta of 16 Oct. I went to Mr Parandier, answd that he is gone on the missions till April. Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson. November 11 Visit Lord Dormer & he gave Mr Bonelli letters for Mr Macpherson & Gradwell.

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285

Luzerne (1738-1821) was Bishop of Langres; he wrote on the office of the episcopate; created cardinal in 1817 (Cardinaux). See note 302.

NOVEMBER

1817

113

November 12 Answered Mr Hodgson. Sent to be washed: shirts 3, cravats 5, handker 1, socks 1, night cap 1, stockings & silk 2. November 13 Wrote to Mr Bullock Cale Hill & Lady Hales to say that I could not be back for appointment but would write again. Called on Abbe Carron, on Mr Berthous 15 Notre Dame dans les champs, on Mr Weld,286 on Bp of Nanci . November 14 Wrote to Mr Collineau, examined Mr Tuite's accounts, & found by a note given me by Mr Marsh from what sources of property the 6088 received as an Inscription is derived. November 15 Went to Sir C Stuart, left a note to ask whether the audience is suspended. Called on Lasille & Quelen. November 17 I called on Sir Ch Stuart who said that the Fr Govt was very slow in answering, he said he would send my papers to the Eng Govt, advised me to go to Richelieu & to engage Pelisselian to go with me. Called also on Cochin who said that as the Bureau had not required its requisitioning there was no urgent necessity of sending in the accounts . To wash: Shirts 4, stockings 1, socks 2, cravats 8, handch 2, night cap 1, silk stockings 1, draws 1, waistcoat 1. Paid for a pectoral cross 130ff 60c. 287 November 18 Went to Archbp of Besanyon & took a letter from him to the Duke de Richelieu asking in advance for both together. November 19 I went to the Ministere des affaires Etrangeres, the letter was delivered. I saw Abbe Chaumont, Archbp of Toulouse. At Mannery, dined at Menilmontant, Cremier-Duillac.

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Thomas Weld of Lulworth Castle, a widower, was ordained priest in 1821 and consecrated bishop by Poynter in 1826; coadju tor V.A. , Kingston, Canada; created Cardinal in 1830 (Gillow). The pectoral cross is preserved in the museum, St Edmund's CoUege.

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November 20 Dined at Mr Weld's with Bishop of Chartres, talked with the Bp. about French Priests in England. November 21 Recd a note from the Bp of Besanc;on saying Richelieu will see us tomorrow at midday. Wrote to Mr Bramston. (Gother, Instrs for Sundays 5th Sunday after Pentecost. 288 ) Dr Curtis 289 & Mr Long called, said Sir C Stuart has told them I had a favourable answer from Ministry. Archbp of Besanc;on said I had 2 enemies to contend with, Irreligion & the desire of getting the management of all Eccl affairs in their hands . He thought it might be best to dispose of all our property here & transfer it to England, according to the dispositions of ministers. November 22 I went with Archbp of Besanc;on to Richelieu. Laine the Minister of Interior came in, the result was that they both desired me to send my observations to the Ordonnance. Recd a packet of letters from Mr Hodgson for Mr Hotchkis, gave Mr Hotchkis a letter of recommendation to Mr Barrat in Sicily. November 23 I prepared my observations for the Ordonnance & sent them to Laine. Received a letter from Mr Bramston & Mr Broderick. November 24 Delivered my observations on Ordonnance for the Duke de Richelieu. Wrote to Mr Hodgson. I called on Card de la Lucerne, he seemed not able to help me, on Besanc;on, he read my observations on the Ordonnance. Called on La Tuile who will have it determined with answers what to be done with the Blanchardists in England. 29o

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Rev. John Gother was a prolific seventeenth-century writer of popular spiritual and apologetical works; see Anstruther 3, pp. 81-4. The reference here is to his Instructions for the Whole Year . .. Sundays & Moveable Feasts (1718). Dr Patrick Curtis, rector of the Irish College in Salamanca; became Archbishop of Armagh in 1819, some claimed at Wellington's insistence because of help g'ven by Curtis in the Peninsular War (Ward 3, p. 80). Followers of Blanchard who condemned the concordat between Napoleon and Pius VII; cf Introduction, p. 11 .

NOVEMBER

1817

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I called on Sir Ch Stuart & gave him an account of my conference with Richelieu & Laine. He desired me to work for the Irish & Scotch as well as with the English. I told him the English had suffered last year by their connection with the Irish. I went to a clothing at the Fosses. Reed a letter from Mr Hodgson with account of death of Mr Southworth on 19th RIP. November 26

Saw Poatticenelli Minister au Tibet et Mongol, Hotel Favert Rue Merivaux, Contesse de Coupert. November 27

I wrote to Laine to say I was ready to give him further explanations. Called at Mr Blount's 27 Rue Ste Darque, on Miss Kiernan. Wrote to Bp Gibson, Broderick, Bramston, Rolfe, Griffiths. Called on Mr Mackenzie,291 he had had one discussion with the French Commissioners on the claims of communities, chiefly religious, said our particular claim would suffer no difficulty, desired me to furnish him with every argument in favour of communities. November 28

Sent to Mr Mackenzie Commission a letter of observations in French on our right to our property, also the laws of 7 Nov 1790, 8 March 1793, Rapport de Chafret. November 29

Went to funeral service of Bp of Aire. Called on Messrs Sheldon & asked Cochin the meaning of Corporate Body [sic} as applicable to our Colleges. Dr McCartan made over to me a promissory agreement from Mr Spencer Stanhope to be employed for St Patrick Charity School, Denmark [St?}, ÂŁ500 or as much as can be obtained. Mr Berry. November 30

Wrote to Mr Hodgson & Bp Gibson.

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One of three English Commissioners working in Pari s and dealing with general English claims to compensation from the French government.

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December 1 I called on Besan90n, saw Lan90n about our claims, explained all the difficulties to him. Saw Mr Mackenzie, satisfied with my papers, saw Bp of Chartres, he did not know what to say, called on Bp of Nancy. Saw curate St Sulpice. December 2 Answd Mr Moore of Bruges, Mrs Lynch, Archbp of Ypres. Reed letter from Mr Rolfe dated 27 Nov. December 4 I went to the Minister of the Interior at his public audience, he said he was not prepared to answer me, he would write to me tomorrow or next day. December 5 Dine at Mr Sheldon's. I went to Sir Ch Stuart to communicate the result of my interview with Laine, Sir C advised me to write to Ld Castlereagh & to make over all to him. I met Mr Mackenzie who invited me to call on him tomorrow, in the meantime he would speak to Sir C. I had called at the Commission office & explained the nature of Doway College to Mr Bialy. I met Ld Wm Bentinck. December 6 I called on Mr Mackenzie & explained to him very fully the nature of our establishment of Doway, & that we were deprived of all in consequence of the war. He said it was not clear that the circumstances of being a Corporate Body would be a loss to our cause & added that what was recovered for Doway would be placed simply in Mr Daniel's name & that he would be at liberty then to sell it & transfer it to England. 292 December 7 Wrote to Bp Smith & Mr Bramston.

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Officially the last president of the English College, Douai , though not in residence. It was easier, legally, to prove the right of individuals to compensation than that of a corporate body, especially if that corporate body had been under French administration for any length of time, as had been true of the colleges in France.

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December 8 Wrote to the Minister of the Int. for an answer or an audience, see copy. December 9 Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson with a copy of a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Rome Nov 3. Wrote to Mr Hodgson & Mr Gradwell. December 11 Took to Duc de Richelieu's a copy of my letter to Mnsr of Int. Saw Miss Kiernan. December 12 Went to Abbe Bertaux, Bp of Chartres, lamentations, Archbishop of Besanyon ditto . Both approved of my letter to the Minister, thought nothing could be done here, was most opposed to English case. He advised a formula for the French Priests in England. Leonard Francis Pranval, born in Herts, to Paul Tharin Senior Seminary[?J. December 13 I went to Archbp of Toulouse & shewed him the formula to be signed by French Priests in England.293 December 14 Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson dated 9th. Answd. Wrote to Bp Gibson sending copy of letter to Minister of Interior. December 15 Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson dated 11 tho I went to Lally Tolendal, not at home. Mr Tuite recd a letter from Mourne President of the Bureau calling for his accounts. December 16 I went with Mr Tuite to Cochin 294 who gave a formula of a protest to be added to Mr Tuite's accounts. He advised to join with

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Declaration of being under submission to the Pope as supreme Head of the Church. Gabriel Cochin, cure, died 1818.

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the Irish & Scotch. This does not appear to Bp Paterson 295 or any of the English advisable. Cochin advised to sell all and send it to England. I went again to Lally Tolenda1, out. December 17 I called on Mr Mackenzie, he said the Fr Commission called for proofs that what we claim is British property, purchased with British money. He desired me to call him next Saturday. Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson dated 12th & from Broderick. I answd Mr Hodgson deputing James Ch McDonnell to execute a dispensation & Mr Hodgson another. December 18 Dined at Missions Etrangeres. I went in evening to Laine, he said he had sent me an invitation to call on me two days ago, he would write to me to appoint a day early next week. December 19 Recd an answer from Richelieu that he had referred me to Mntr of Itn. December 20 Dr Murray296 & Curtis arrived. Letter from Mr Hodgson , 1 from Horrabin - Griffiths . December 21 Saw Dr Murray & Curtis & Mr Mackenzie who told me to prepare proofs that our property is of British origin. Answd Hodgson, Bramston & Horrabin. December 22 I worked at home to prepare proofs for our Commission. Recd letter from Mr Gradwell dated 6 Dec, from Bp Smith 9 Dec. December 23 Dined with Messrs Blount & Weld 27 St Dom. At 6 o'clock took a memorial to Mackenzie's shewing that our property is of

295 296

Bishop Patterson of the Lowla nd District was looking after the interests of the Scots colleges. Co-adjutor Bishop of Dublin, he had the task of securing the rights of the Irish colleges.

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British origin . I called on the Bp of Chartres & left with him the declaration to be signed by the Bp. Copy in London District. December 26 Wrote to Mr Griffiths. I called on Dr Murray . Invited him, Curtis & Long to dine on Monday. They were going to Sir C Stuart. I called on Bp of Chartres, he has left the declaration with the Cardinal. Order to transfer ÂŁ100 from Poynter, Hodgson & Bew to Griffiths . December 27 I went to Mackenzie. He was perfectly satisfied with my memorial, said our case was as good as any he had in hand. I delivered to him an extract from Chartres. "Rapport" 28 Oct 1790.297 I called on Lord Kenmare. Recd letters from Mr Hodgson & Rolfe . Answd Mr Hodgson. December 28 Dr Murray called. Long conversation on our different situations & affairs in general. Answd Mr Rolfe. December 29 Went to Bps of Chartres & Sarno rate who advised me write to Card Perigord. Called on Dr Murray about our application. Sir C Stuart. December 30 Mr Turnville 6 o'clock Hotel at Rue de Paris. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated 14 Dec. Answd him & enclosed a letter for Consalvi. December 31 Wrote to Mr Archer & Mr Hodgson sending a copy of fo rmula to be signed by Fr Priests, sending the same to Card Perigord.

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This probably refers to the F rench bishops' Exposition des Principes of Octo ber 1790 - their reply to the Civil Constitutio n of the Clergy (July 1790) that dealt with (among other things) relations between Church and State and the fu ture of ecclesiastical properties.

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1818 [Introductory notes:] John North at East Lane recommended by Dr O'Brien, 13 yrs old. Count O'Mahoney Lieut Gen,298 when joined the army in Champ. 1792 he made Ferris his aide de camp; goes to the Bureau to maintain any thing Ferris wishes. Macdonald signed Ferris' petition. Pensions: Gen O'Shea in Egypt £20, £33, £13, Aherne 2nd Lieut £3.11, Cap Corbet £14, St Leger to go to Regiment £60. [January 1 - January 12 1818 are included in the last pages of the 1817 Diary.] January 1 I went to pay respects to the King, Duchess of Angouleme, Duke de Berry, Duchess de Berry; left cards, & a letter at Duke of Wellington's.299 Card at Sir Ch Stuart's, Card Perigord, Bp of Chartres, Samorate. January 2 Paid visits to the Fr Bps & sent a note to Minister of Interior. Recd a note from the Duke of Wellington. Dined with Sir Th Clifford. January 6 Received an answer from Laine appointing Thursday 5 o'clock for an audience. January 7 Went with Archbp Murray & Bp Paterson to Sir Ch Stuart & left with him my Memorial signed this day, & also copies of the Ordonnance, of my Exposees, of my letters to Min of Int 22 Nov

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299

The names that follow (except that of Ferris) are of Irish soldiers who fought in the French army at one time or another (O'Mahoney, in a very chequered career, also fought against the French in Egypt because of his royalist sympathies) and rose to some prominence. Two or three had been educated at the Irish College in Paris, three had taken part in the 1798 Irish rebellion (R. Hayes, Biographical Dictionary of Irishmen in France, Dublin 1949). The list also includes two illegible names. The issue of the pensions mentioned here is unclear, but see entry for Feb. 19. In official residence in Paris as Commander of the Army of Occupation.

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& 8 Dec & of my letter to Commissioners of 23 Dec. Sir Charles desired us to return tomorrow at the same time. January 8

I called on Sir Ch Stuart to say that I had recd an invitation to an audience with the Min of Interior this evening & that Archbp Murray, Bp Paterson & myself wanted to call tomorrow & inform him of the result. He agreed to 12 o'clock. I called on Laine who said the Ordonnance's name could not be changed & that all must be under the Bureau. January 9

I went with Drs Murray & Paterson to Sir Charles Stuart & made the report to him of the interview yesterday with Laine. Sir Charles said he would deliver our Papers to the Minister, advised Dr Paterson to ask for an audience with Laine as Dr Murray is to have one tomorrow. I wrote to Bp Smith & Mr Bramston. January 10

I called on Mackenzie. He said he was preparing to send an account of the Claims not yet settled to our Govt distinguishing those which are certain from those that are dubious; he was sorry to say that he must place the Eccl claims amongst the doubtful. They depended on a decision concerning the Y pres claims of the Irish convent which was taken as an example on which the others were to be decided; it called into the question of its being a Corporation. January 11

A note was left for me by Lord Conyngham desiring me to call on him tomorrow at 12 o'clock. Archbp Murray called & said that Laine refused to change the Ordonnance or to exempt the Irish from the Bureau. He lent me Hayes' Report,300 the letter in Carrick, Dr Troy's letter who refused faculties to Hayes, & Litta's letter to Dr Murray. Wrote to Mr Hodgson telling him to grant the same allowance for Lent as last year. 301

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An Irish Franciscan priest in Rome protesting against the 'Genoese' Letter. Dr Troy was Archbishop of Dublin. Each year a Pastoral Letter at the beginning of Lent contained detailed instructions about fasting; copies in AA W jSEC.

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January 12

I called on Dr Murray . Agreed to prepare a Memorial to the King & one for the Duke of Wellington. I called on Dr Conyngham, he read me the letter of Sir Ch Stuart to Ld Castlereagh stating ours addressed to Sir C.S. desiring Ld Castlereagh if he is satisfied with our papers on the influence of Govt to procure for us the free administration of our property in France & the liberty to alienate it & send it to our own country. I went to the Convent of the Temple. The Preacher was indisposed. I saw Samorate. January 13

Dined at the Tuileries. January 14

I called on Abbe Carron & went to Abbe D'astros 30 2 concerning case of Eng. Catholic & French lady Catholic married in Prot. Ch in England wishing to be married by Cath priest here. No. Impediment. January 15

I read the grounds of the rejection of the claim of the Ypres nuns, by which as by a precedent our claims were to have been decided. The grounds were 1. the house at" Ypres did not exist as a British establishment when the Rentes were constituted. 2. that being a religious community none of the Individuals [sic] could call the property their own, they being a corporate body. 3. that the Decree of Sequest[ration] was not made directly against them, they being at the time out of French territory. 4. that they are now out of France. I shewed that none of these reasons affected Doway College. January 17

Worked at home. Wrote to Mr Hodgson. January 19

I went to the Commissioners. Mr Newnham's difficulty was that our Establishments are adopted [sic] in France, under French laws, outside of the laws of England & therefore not included in

302

Paul Astros (1 772-1 851 ), appointed Bishop of Saint-F leur in 1817, bu t exchanged this for Bayonne before his consecration which took place only in 1820 (Episcopat) .

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the Treaty. We must prove that our property was confiscated as of Br. Subjects [ sic} , that Mr Daniel is President, that as President he has control over the whole and is sole claimant. January 20

Bp Paterson had an interview with Laine Mr of Interior who repeated to Bp. P. what he had said to Abp Murray & me, viz that the decree must stand & our Establishments must be subject to the Bureau. January 22

I prepared an answer to Mr Newnham's difficulties & took it to him for his examination. He was satisfied with it, desired me to complete it with a ' full statement of some circumstances. January 23

I worked at home preparing memorial for Mr Newnham. Bp Paterson went to Mr Newnham, who acknowledged that his ideas were now quite changed on the subject of our claims, which he now sees in a favourable light. January 26

I signed a petition to the King with Dr Murray & Bp Paterson & I sent my exposee with theirs to the Duke of Wellington. I worked at home at my Memorial. January 27

I heard from Mr Desjardins that on the 10th Laine signed an arrete [decree] confirming Beaulieu as Treasurer of the Administration of the British Establishments allowing him ÂŁ2000 pa besides ÂŁ200 for expenses of Bureau, of which half to the Irish, a quarter to E, a quarter to Scotch 1!!!!1!!lP03 Signed my Memorial to the Commissioners in favour of Doway claims.304 January 28

Saw Archbp Murray & Mr Long, on the arrete.

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Exclamation marks used by Poynter as a sign of his fru stration that the di fferent colleges were still being regarded as a unit under the Bureau. Copy in Ward St Edmund's, Appendix G.

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January 29 The Bishop of Beziers called & told me that some French clergymen in London had prepared a Remonstration against my formula. Ask Keating, whether the name of Rev Mr Fisher was ever inserted in the Directory. January 30 Bp Paterson called on Sir Charles Stuart, gave him an account of his interview with Laine & shewed him the arrete of Laine. January 31 I called on Dr Murray & Mr Curtis; they approved of my Formula. Went to Missions Etrangeres. Recd an illegible letter from Bp Gibson .305 Sir Charles Stuart wrote to Richelieu about the arrete. February 1 I assisted as 2nd Assistant Bishop at the Consecration of Rt Rev Jacques Leonard, consecrated Archbishop of Toulouse, 1st Assistant Bp [was] Archbishop of Arles. Dined at Missions Etrangeres with Archbishop of Rheims . Arch besides Consecr 1st Assistant, Arch Murray, Bp Paterson, Jeu[?]. I recd a letter from Mr L Pericaud 11 Northland St Paddington informing me that the greater part of the French clergy had signed my formula . I wrote to Bp. Gibson. Robert Jos Daniel died . R .I.P. February 2 Dine with Callaghan at 6 o'clock, Rec'd a letter from C. Litta dated 9 Jan & from Mr Gradwell dated 17 Jan . February 3 Wrote to Mr Buckley & to Mr Jones, to send Whaling to Lisbon and Js . Welch to S. Eds . I called on curate of St [illegible] about a marriage. [added later:] NB Whaling not sent being of Irish Parents. February 4 I went with Bp Paterson to Mr Newnham; he desired us to come tomorrow at Y2 past one.

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The V.A. of the Northern District's handwriting was notoriously difficult to read .

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February 5 I went with Dr Murray & Bp Paterson to Sir Ch. Stuart & delivered to him a note signed by us three this day, concerning the arrete of 19 Jany . Sir Charles gave us to read, 1. a letter from Richelieu to him of abt. 12 Jan, saying he had referred our case to Minr. of Interior. 2. his letter to Richelieu complaining strongly of the arrete as an effect of the Ordonnance, against which he said the British Bps, natural guardians of the property of their establishments had great reason to remonstrate. He concluded by saying that if they were treated in this manner they would transfer the property to England . Bp Paterson & I went to Mr Newnham; he read my remonstrance & said it was very clear & strong. He would send it over to our Govt - it might be 2 months before an Answer. Mr Newnham makes unnecessary and trifling difficulties. Mr Mackenzie sees the chose [sic} in its true light & argues well on it. [added later:} (NB) Sir Charles charged the French Ministers with malversation of our property. February 7 John Spencer Stanhope called with Ld. Bolingbroke. I explained the affair of Dr Maccartan's claim.306 February 8 I said M . at the Visitation . February 9 Recd a letter from Mr Hodgson dated Feb 5 & from Mr Hunt' s letter, also from Mr Gradwell dated 26 Jan. I called on Abbe Treverne, Mgr Maxula, Mr Boyle. I gave ÂŁ1 Mrs Elergen returned from Rome with her Daughter being abandoned by her husband . February 10 Answd Card Litta's of 9 Jan & Mr Gradwell with a copy of my formula. Wrote to Mr Hodgson enclosing Mr Gradwell's 2 letters of 17 & 24 Jan. I called on Dr Murray. No news yet from Duke of Norfolk. February 11 Dr Murray called & gave me a copy of the Minister of Interior's arrete granting Mr Plowden 900 on the British establishment

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See the entry for November 29, 1817.

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from July 1816 to 1 Jan 1818.307 Mr Tuite drew on me at Wright's £40. He paid for my hat, 22ff, gave me in cash 300ff; paid for chain for cross £132.10s; for ring £80 . February 12 Dr Murray, Bp Paterson and I went to Sir Charles; desired to come tomorrow. Dr P and I called on MacKenzie, Dr P gave him his memorial. MacKenzie desired us come another day. Mackenzie told me he would procure accommodation for Bp of Maxula. Dr Curtis saw Wellington who said he saw our cause was good & just & he would do it in a very few days . February 13 We all three called on Sir Charles and gave him copies of the list of offers placed by Fr Govt and British establishment, a copy of arrete of Minister of Interior 13 Jan for Plowden pension & copy of advance 30 Oct 1815. C said all this was too bad; he had spoken to Laine who said he would call the whole board (nonsense) . I called on Bp of Maxula. I gave in charity to Mad. La Marquise de Douville (Hubert Messling) 1 Louis - 5 times, Mandat £2, Hotel de Nancy, vis-a.-vis la Rue de la Chaise, Rue des Grenelles. February 14 Dr Paterson & I called on Dr Curtis & heard an account of his interview with Wellington. Recd letter from Mr Broderick & from Mr Griffith. Wrote to Mr Hodgson. February 16 I went with Bp Paterson first to Dr Murray who advised us to inform Sir Charles that the Duke of Wellington had undertaken our cause. We went to Sir Ch & told him. I also gave him a list of Pensions granted by order of Fr Govt. Sir C said he had delivered in our last papers with a smart note. I went to Latil. The Fr Bps had resisted the attempt last week to divide them.308 We went to M ackenzie, too busy, said he would very shortly attend to our claims. Went to Missions Etrangeres. A Lucifrier came while we were there with a summons to M Desjardins to pay

307 308

Fr Charles Plowden SJ (1743- 1821), was rector of Stonyhurst and Provincial of the English Jes uits from 1817. On the vexed issue of relations between Church and State after the Restoration; see no te 311.

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Beaulieu; Desjardins has answered Beaulieu that the demand was unjust & vexatious. February 17 I called on Dr Murray, gave him an account of my interview with Sir Ch. I went to Mr McKenzie with Bp of Maxula. Answered Mr Hodgson & Mr Bramston. February 18 I called on Mr Duclos Superior of St Sulpice, & on Mr Le Gris about the book on Episcop. Recd a letter from Abbe O'Conor including one from Ferris. I wrote to Mr Griffiths giving transfer for £125. 4s; tell O'Leary to make a good retreat & go on. Answd Mr Brod & Mr Percy. February 19 I called on Dr Murray, no news from D. Wellington. Dr Curtis desires to take a copy of the officers educated on Brit Eccl money & of the Pensions granted. February 20 Went to Archb Besanc;on & Le Gris about lib. Evang. Wrote to Bp Gibson & sent a formula of present & Superior of Seminary. February 21 Called in Dr Murray about lib. Eccl; at Missions & at Col Keating's & Missions Etrangeres. Wrote to Mr Norris about French charges for letters. Mr Norris placed in Jan £325 .3s to P.HgB[?J keeping £30 on account. Total £355 .3s paid to him by Messrs Butler for value of 12 Hodgsons and one tierce of Muscovado sugar in part of payment to Estate of French. February 22 Bp of Maxula leaves Paris to-day for Havre. Recd letter from Bp Gibson dated 16th. I answered Mr Meath & Mr Kimbell & wrote in both to Mr Hodgson. February 23 I accepted letters of recommendation from Col Keating & for the Bp of Maxula to Major Barry chief Secy to Gov. [of the] Isle of France. Sir Robt Barclay Bart Port Louis, ditto John Finniss Esq, Paymaster 56 Regiment, ditto William Philips Esq, 1st member of Prince of Wales Island. I sent them to Missions Etrangeres with a letter to Mr Maxula.

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February 24 I saw Miss Spencer. Went to Mr Newnham, content with him; wrote to Sir H Singlefield about Miss Spencer. Wrote to Bp Gibson. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated 11th enclosing a letter signed by His Holiness in answer to the letter of the Bps of England & Scotland (excepto uno) in June. 309 I sent the original to Bp Gibson & copies to Mr Gradwell & Mr Hodgson, with letters to them . February 26 I dined with Mr Mackenzie & Mr Newnham, Col Keating, Mr Grant, Mr Drummond, Capt Duncan. February 27 Went to Sir Charles Stuart, he showed us a letter from Richelieu dated 20th in answer to letters of Sir C 14th & 18th accompanied by our Papers. Richelieu said in his letter that he had sent these Papers to the Minister of the Interior who had answered him that he would look into the business himself (il s'occuperait du depouillement de leurs affaires) & examine the whole attentively . We had heard a short time ago that Laine had sent for all our papers again from Bedoit, who was said to be charged with the task of answering us . February 28 I went with Drs Murray & Paterson to see the Ecole Chretienne. Called on Abbe Chaumont & Abbe Carron. Bp Paterson was informed by Mr Desjardins that Beaulieu had made opposition to (or stopped) the payment of the Rentes of Scottish houses & had sent summons to Mr Desjardins to appear before a tribunal to answer for his conduct in refusing to pay Beaulieu's pension. March 1 Gave Confirmation at Abbe Carron's. Called on Dr Murray. March 2 Dr Murray, Bp Paterson & I went to Sir C. St. He told us to send a memorial relative to the Demand of proceeds of Bracki,

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The Vicars Apostolic (excluding Milner) had written to complain of Cardinal Litta's treatment of Poynter in the Gandolphy case; they were supported by the Catholic Board . The Pope called for a further investigation of Gandolphy's works (Ward 2, pp. 213-4) .

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calling it tyrannical, that at all rates Beaulieu should be removed for acting like un perdard [a rogue] . I went with Abbe Chaumont to Col Keating & to Mackenzie. Recd a letter from Messrs Hodgson & Bramston.

March 3 I called on Dr Murray & Co & read the memorial for Sir Ch Stuart on Beaulieu's demand. All signed it. I took it with a copy of Bealieu's sommation on Abbe Desjardins to Sir Ch. He recd & ackd it. I saw Mackenzie who said he would bring on our cause tomorrow. I left a card at Ld Pembroke's & at Spanish Ambassador No 40 Rue Montblanc. Recd letter from Mr Rolfe. Ansd H & Mr Bramston.

March 6 Ansd Mr Rolfe.

March 9 I called on Drs Murray & Curtis, on Mr Weld. Recd Mr Eccles' letter enclosing power of attorney to be signed by me. Paid for postage ÂŁ6, for expenses of notary's attention ÂŁ15.l2s. Sent back to Mr Eccles Wednesday 11th.

March 10 I went with Bp Paterson to Sir Ch Stuart, he told us to come tomorrow. Called on Mr Mackenzie, who promised to bring forward Mr Daniel's claims tomorrow. Recd a letter signed by Abbe Chene about the formula.

March 11 I went to Dr Murray. Consulted him & Dr Curtis on French remonstrance & opinion that no explanation to the formula was to be admitted. We went (A.M, Bp & myself) to Sir Charles. He had not recd any answer to the remonstrance or memorial given to him on 3rd. He was cautioned against Burke; said Burke had asked for an audience for Mourne. We told him that Mourne was in the ante chamber; said that nothing else than our being free entirely from their administration and having entire disposal of our property would suffice. He said that we were in the right & that he would speak to Mourne accordingly, it was abominable treatment. He advised us to protest and resist payment by legal means.

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March 12 I called on the Arch of Besanc;on who read my letter to Mr Archer on the Declaration of the French Priests in London & approved of it. I called on Bp of Chartres, he approved of it & I left it with him, as also the Declaration. I left cards at Duke of Wellington's, called on Abbe Treverne, saw Drs Murray & Curtis; willing for situation for the demands & spurning Fr Govt. I wrote to Mr Hodgson about Abbe Chene's declaration . Mr Desjardins told Bp Paterson that last Sunday Beaulieu was reprimanded by the Bureau & that proceedings against him would be stopped. March 16 Wrote to Revd Lawson, Downside Abbey, about Revd Jolly . Recd the parcel by Dover containing Orthodoxy, letters from Mr Hodgson & Mr Buckley. March 17 Wrote to Bp Smith answering Bp Gibson. Recd letter from Mr Hodgson 13th, answered . March 18 Recd letter from Mr Slater310 at Rome dated Feb. 28. March 19 Recd Anna Marie Ashton . March 20 Dr Murray called & told me that Sir Charles had learnt from Mourne who was sent officially by Laine to him, that answer would be proposed to our remonstrations. Sir Charles appeared to be shaken by the conference with Mourne & to think that the French Govt might shew itself authorised to act as it had done. Sir Charles wished it to be verified that Mourne had said that he was scandalised that we had recourse to a Prot. Govt. March 22 Baptised conditionally Mr M. Sephering Ashton. Longuemarre gave the names of Moronet de la ville de Dexlorsen et dans Ie diocese de Poitiers. I called on Sir Charles Stuart, he told me it might be 5 months before I got an answer. Recd letters from

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Recommended to Propaganda as V.A. a t the Cape.

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Mr Hodgson, Dobson, Broderick, Bp Gibson, saying he had recd letter from Litta about restoration of the Jesuits.

March 23 I called on Mourne . He will gIve me an answer soon to my memorial. March 25 I confirmed Mrs Ashton. March 26 Prepared observations for Mourne. I called on Cochin & on Mackenzie. He said he had not recd any answer from our Govt but that he may deliver Mr Daniel's claims for funded property to the Commission. The Minister of the Interior met 20 French Bps & without any previous advice gave them a paper without any signatures asking whether they would consent to the reduction of Bishoprics to the number of Departments. They returned their answer (that they had nothing to say to it, as they had not been consulted on the Concordat) on a paper without any signatures, at which the Minister was displeased. The Cardinal has given a strong letter to the King. The Gospel will be preached, but if the Catholic religion is not supported by him the King himself will perish .311 March 27 I left my observations with a sketch with Mourne, which see. March 28 Wrote to Mr Slater. Consecrated altar stone at the Visitation. Recd a note from Dr Murray containing Dr Troy's answer to a French Priest Feuillet about the formula. March 30 Wrote to Mr Buckley, Lisbon. Giving a Confirmation of Mr Winstanley as Peter. Confirmed Mrs Ashton & Mary. Mr Slater proposed to Propaganda as Vic Ap. at Cape. Recd letter from Mr Gradwell dated 13 March & from Mr Hodgson dated 20th by 3 11

Breaking the Concordat of 1801 , in 1817 Pius VII increased the number of dioceses from 50 to 92, in an attempt to restore the French Church to its preRevolutionary status. The French government refused to recognise this and a long dispute fo llowed; bishops were appointed to the restored dioceses but not installed. In 1821 the Parlement agreed to a total of 80 dioceses.

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Mr Kimbell. Mr Gradwell was appointed Rector by a diploma dated 8th March. 312 March 31 Dine with Mr Weld & others. Wrote to Mr Hodgson sending to Mr Archer my answer about the declaration from Abbe Chene. Wrote thanks to Consalvi ditto to the Pope. Write to Botticelli to acknowledge 20 copies of Bp Chall's Meditations as a present from the King of Naples . Write to Mr Brockholes. April 1 I wrote to Mr Gradwell, no copy, to thank him. To Bp Smith, sending him Gradwell's letter to be forwarded to Mr Hodgson & to Mr Broderick. Reed a note from Sir Charles with a copy of Richelieu's letter. April 2 I went with Dr Murray, Dr Paterson & Dr Curtis to Sir Ch Stuart on the letter from Richelieu. Sir C said he did not know what more he could do, for the property of British subjects in France is subject to the laws of France. If we were to put it into the hands of our Commission, we take it out of his . I shewed him my note; he said this is a good answer, but it relates only to one College;3!3 he then advised all to make one common memorial in answer to Richelieu's & to address it to him (Sir Ch). We went to Mgr D'Artois who had spoken to Mourne. Mourne had seen Laine, Minister of Interior who was willing to make a general form of admission for all to be under a Bureau with Archbp of Paris at the head . To this the Superior must be subject. For the agreement of a Superior and three Ecclesiastics to be presented by the Bps, one to be chosen by Minister. April 3 I went with Mr Tuite to Mourne. He had read my observation to the Bureau; he said they had no titles or documents. The Minister to whom he had spoken would do nothing. I heard that Ferris had written to the Cardinal to say that unless I would retract 3 charges against him which he said I had made he would cite me before a court of justice. And if I went to England before the cause was brought he would expose me in all the French Papers.

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See note 8. The English College, Douai.

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April 4 I saw Mackenzie. He waited instructions from Ld Castlereagh, thought I might do much with Mr Hamilton, was shocked to hear of our treatment. I saw Samorate, told me not to fear but to give strong remonstration to Minister of Interior. I received Ferris' insolent threats. Letters from Bp Smith, Mr Lawson, Mr Hunt. I wrote to Mr Bramston. A letter from Mr Hodgson. April 5 I saw the Bp of Chartres who advised to write a short note to Ferris to say that I had declared that the Bps had no decision & that I had nothing to do with the rest. Bp of Samorate told me to go on without minding anything. April 6 I called at Irish College. Saw Sir Charles who told me to speak to the Cardinal, and if any other step was taken against me by Ferris to tell him & he would act. April 7 I called on the Cardinal (after seeing Bps of Chartres & Samorate). The Cardinal desired Samorate to prepare a short letter to Ferris to declare that I had not accused him of anything. I went to Cochin who said that the whole was a trick of Ferris, that the letter was not signed by him, that it would be better that the Cardinal should not honour him with a letter, that the whole was to be despised. I dined at the Tuileries with the Cardinal. April 8 I prepared a reply to Sir Charles Stuart. Dr Gibson called on me from Rome & gave me a letter from Card Litta. April 9 I called on Dr Murray to go with me to Sir Charles, he was out. April 10 Dr Murray, Paterson & self went to Sir Charles, who recd our common reply to Richelieu of 27th March. He will send it to the Minister & expressed his readiness to do all in his power for us. He said he had never recd an answer from Ld Castlereagh to our Papers; he had taken upon himself perhaps more than might be approved of, we thanked him. Dr M says he had asked for a private audience with the King, meaning to ask to place the Irish

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Establishment under the Archbp of Paris. Wrote to Mr Hodgson & Mrs W oollett. April 11

Dr Murray went to the King & presented a memorial, graciously recd . I prepared a memorial to the King & wrote to the Duke d' Aumont for an audience. April 12

Recd an answer that the audience would be granted at 11 on Monday 2. A letter from Abbe Voyaux by the G Aumonier. Mr Crosbie attached to the English Embassy called to correct a passage in the copy of the letter from Richelieu to Sir C of 27 March. In consequence I had to correct my letter of 10 Apr to Sir C. The corrected copy was signed. April 13

I went to the King, gave him my petition. This he had recd & said 'Je Ie ferai examiner' [J will have it looked into] which he repeated twice. I gave him a copy of the Minister's letter 27 March which he has read . I told him that all we asked was just that we might be allowed to employ the remains of our property for the benefit of our missionaries as we had once formerly. That the answer of the Minister had afflicted me & I begged his Minister would do us justice. That the English are on a different footing from the Irish and the Scotch. April 14

Mgr D'Astros called; had recd Ferris' Papers, despised them .3 14 I recd a letter from Mr Hodgson & from Mr Cooper of Brighton. I answered Abbe Voyaux in a letter to Mr Hodgson, also Mr Horrabin about Mr Havard, confirm him in Virginia Street. I wrote to Bp Smith. Bp Murray & Bp Paterson signed the note which I signed yesterday explaining the payment of our demands. Dr Paterson & Dr Curtis took it to Sir Charles Stuart & also to Genl Murray. The Duke is determined to speak for us. April 15

Recd letter from Mr Gradwell; he took possession of ColI of Rome on 31 March. Mr Slater proposed to be Vic. Ap. at the Cape; the oath for the Bishop's consecration to be proposed to

3 14

Probably the accounts that Ferris was required to submit on his dismissal.

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Pope. Damiani banished. 315 King of Naples; new conduct in Concordat. Wrote to Bp Gibson & Mr Hodgson sending Mr Gradwell's letter to Collingridge. April 17 I called on Bp of Chartres & Samorate, the latter begged I would leave a copy of my memorial to the King with him. The Cardinal had spoken to the King about us, 'Je Ie ferai examiner' was the King's answer. They both (Chartres & Sarno rate) advised me to be firm on my formula . April 18 Archbp Murray ,brought note from Mourne to Mr Long calling for an account of the alienations since the Revolution of the good[s] of the British Establishment, took a copy to Mr Chatirait who thought it might be given but with a protest. I called on Mr Mackenzie, he told me he would take care that nothing passed into the hands of the Bureau. April 19 I wrote to Mr Rolfe & to Mr Bew answering Mr Cooper's letter about Brighton. Went to hear Abbe Trasinous. April 20 Recd a letter from Mr Gibson Apr 14, and one from Mr Gradwell Apr 6 containing a letter to Rt Rev Thomas Gillow 3l6 appointed Bp of Hypsopolis sub Archpat[? J Synadeno or Synadensi. I wrote to Mr Gradwell. Sent a copy of Litta's letter to Bp Gibson of 14 Feb about the Jesuits . April 21 I performed a ceremony at the Visitation (or clothing) & attended to the profession of Miss Jones of N . at the Fossa. I wrote to Mr Gradwell & to Rt Rev Thos Gillow sending Mr Gradwell's letter to him of 6 April.

315

3 16

Damiani was one of the Roman censors appointed to examine Gandolphy's writings; he was banished for being too supportive of Gandolphy's views. See Ward 2, p. 218, who implies this happened in July 1818. Rev. Thomas Gillow (1769-1857) was appointed V.A. of the West Indies in March 1818, but declined on health grounds . Brady, 3, pp. 274-6, has a colourful account of his escape from Douai.

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April 23 Abbe de Pins Bp of Beziers called & spoke much against my Formula. I called on Dr Asteros concerning the reception of Protestants to the Church. I prepared a letter to Mr Gradwell on the formula proposed to the French. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated 11th approving formula. April 24 I called on Besanc;on, he told me to remain firm on my formula. Also the Bp of Chartres, Abbe Desjardins in like manner saying that the French in London refused to hear his confession. I saw Mr Mackenzie, he told me that an arrangement had been made with the Fr Govt. relative to dubious claims among which were those ecclesiastical. Newnham 317 told me they had written to Ld Castlereagh, 1st concerning whether the Religious & Ecclesiastical claims in general were in the treaty considering that they were domiciled in France; 2nd if the Religious were rejected whether the Ecclesiastical would not be admitted; 3rd whether at least the funded property & Rentes would not be admitted if the landed & real property were objected to. He said that a large sum would be transferred to England out of which these claims would be paid, but that my own, Mr Southworth's & Bp Gibson's were certainly independent of what he had said. April 25 I wrote to Mr Bramston. I saw Sir Ch Stuart. Thanked him. Answd D of Wellington. Called at Commission. I dined at Tuileries. I called on Arch of Toulouse, met LatiUe (Bp of Chartres) told them of answer from Rome about formula. They approved of my conduct; had heard that I had interdicted the French Chapel, false . Bp Paterson had an audience of the King. He said notwithstanding his desire of favouring our Establishment it was out of his power, nothing could be done but judiciament et administrativement. April 26 Yesterday a law was proposed relative to the claims of Brit Subjects: individual claimants hors du territoire Franc;ais were to be satisfied, which I fear excluded us. The Duke of Wellington answd my note, he wished to know the object of my discussion with him. I told him I only wished to present a short note to him. But I now perceive that he expected I wanted to discuss the 3 17

Another of the English Commissioners in Paris.

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arrangements made with the Fr Govt about our claims, of these arrangements I knew nothing till the law was proposed on Saturday 26th. April 27 Mr Tuite paid me for my expenses of coach hire,l OOff. Mr Tuite gave me for journey 240ff. Mr Tuite paid for the coach to Calais 100ff. I have my own 80. 420ff leaving Paris. I told Mr Tuite to charge 240ff for my journey back & the rest to me. May 1 Gave Confirmation at convent. [Entries for May ' 2 and 3 are too faint to interpret - written on board ship.} May 4 Arrived in London. May 5 Recd a letter from Card Litta about Catholic Board dated 18 Ap & a letter from Mr Gradwell same date addressed to Bp Gibson. I gave the Countess de Front 2 packets relating to her will. May 6 I wrote to Mr Jerningham, sent Card Litta's letter calling for information. I recd a letter from Abbe Merinville. Wrote to Bp Gibson sending Mr Gradwell's & to Bp Collingridge sending letter to the Pope. May 7 Speak to Mr Jerningham about the reflexions politiques of Abbe Treverne,318 Fr & Eng, publish them in Propaganda. May 8 Mr Lambert retracts his name from the letter 16 Jan & signs pure & simpliciter. Mr Dunn 319 faculties as long as in the District. Facultates Revd Car. Brooke ad annum. Licentia celebrandi

3 18

3 19

Jean Le Pappe de Trevern (1754-1842), later Bishop of Aire (1823) and of Strasbourg (1827); he published a work called Discussion Amicale (Episcopat) . Probably the famous " Daddy" Dunn, an ex-Jesuit who served the Preston mission for 51 years; cf. November 29, 1824.

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Missam BMV Dno Car Forrester ad an. FacuItates Dno Mathias ad finem anni [Faculties for Rev. Charles Brooke for a year. Permission to say Mass BVM to Rev. Charles Forrester for a year. Faculties for Rev. Mathias until the end of the year]. May 9

I gave Mary Hutchinson leave to renew vows in Benedictine Order. I wrote to Mrs Fains to inform her that I had given leave to Miss Hutch. I ansd Abbe Merinville.32o Keating gave me £10 for Aged Poor, £10 for Mr Bramston. Sent £10 for Aged Poor 13 May. May 10

Confirm at Moor Fields . I recd a letter from Abbe Chene dated this day. Mrs Warmesley widow of Mr Warmesley will give me £200 for education & to receive interest during life. Abbe Chene called, but went without signing formula. May 11

I answered Abbe Chene, see copy book. I wrote to Bp of Samorate. I confirmed in my chapel Margaretta Maria Josepha Lynch, wife of Mr Lynch & Elizabetha Maria Anna Ferghusson sister of Cullen. May 12

I confirmed in my chapel Charles James John Wilkinson. I & Mr Hodgson signed the conveyance to Mr Robins. I went to Virginia Street321 & Poplar. Recd a letter from Litta approving of the formula. A letter from Le Tellier of Tottenham. 322 The Countess de Front left a packet of instruction with me. May 13

I wrote to Mr Norris to prepare a bond of security to Mrs Winstanley. Mr Moore, Bath Place, Old City Street, Architect. Mr Hunt left Mr Riddalph Nov 12 1817. Mr Duval succeeded. Granted to Mr Hunt £26 pa.

320 32 1 322

Rene de Merinville (1742-1829), former Bishop of Dijon. Commercial Road. A mission from 1760; ECP 10,000. A mission from 1793; ECP 500. Rev. Pierre Le Tellier, of the Diocese of Bayeux, served there for many years.

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May 14 I wrote to Langlois of Southampton. May 15 I wrote to Abbe Latip23 May 17 Confirmation at Brook Green. 324 May 18 Saw Mrs Stavin. Saw Duke of Norfolk 325 about Brougham's Bill. The Duke had spoken to obtain an exception for Catholic Marriages. Mr Moro called for leave to eat meat, as in Spain. May 19 I went to Spanish Ambassador, 50 Portland Place, 12 Apt, Duc St Carlos. I signed an attestation for Revd Homer. May 20 Mrs Walmesley about ÂŁ200 . I delivered a note to Ld Castlereagh with a clause to be added to Brougham bill. I called on Lord Bathurst; he approves of Mr Slater for Eastern Colonies, but wishes him not to reside at the Cape. Granted permission for professions at New Hall. McGuire, town of Bandon of Cork, dip[s] finger in water, makers] + repeating words then sprinkles water on the face. May 21 Jarrett Near Terrace Tottenham. I called on Ld Castlereagh, too busy. Mic Henry Yorke, 14, born in London, Father English. May 22 I saw Ld Castlereagh. He acknowledged the hardship of the case, promised to speak to Ld Liverpool & advised me to speak to him. I went to Lord Rosslyn, he will speak to several Lords to

323 324 325

Jean Baptiste Latil, resident in Edinburgh, London and elsewhere; Archbishop of Rheims from 1824. See note 130. Brook Green, Hammersmith, Acton, Isleworth (1675), Richmond (1793); ECP 1000. On the death of the 11 th Duke in 1815 (who had conformed to the Established Church), his cousin who had remained a Catholic succeeded to the title. On Brougham's Bill, see next note.

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have a clause inserted in Brougham's bi1l 326 exempting Catholics. I called on Mr Kiernan. He will go to Brougham. I wrote to Mr Gradwell & Duke of Norfolk . Recd letters from M Legate & Langlois 327 refusing to sign the formula. May 24 Dine at Mr Norris'. May 25 I saw Spanish Ambassador & accompanied Mr Carpavos, first Chaplain. I left a letter at Ld Bathurst's recommending Mr Slater as Vic Ap for Mauritius. I called on Dr Clifford. Audited accounts at Lincoln's Inn Fields . May 26 1 o'clock Mr Caps, Baglett Coffee House, Aldermansbury . Saw Mr Thos Gillow . I wrote to Mr Gradwell sending letter to Pope, & to C Plowden about Soberton, to La Rue & Le Tellier & L'Anglois telling them to call on me. To Mr Conway at Woolwich promising 20th part of Archer's money at Woolwich. The clauses exempting Caths from Brougham's bill were inserted by the Lords. May 27 Recd letter from Ld Bathurst approving Mr Slater residing Mauritius as V.A.

III

May 28 I saw Ld Clifford about the Marriage Act. Duke of Norfolk. Recd a letter from G Guman including one for chaplains at Kg Street. Letter from C. Litta re letter of 14 Feb, Jesuits not restored . I wrote to Mr Goulburn thanking him for letter of 26th. May 29 Letter from Legier, will not sign the formula . Abbe Destables refuses to sign. I approved of the insertion of the clause for our Church. 326

327

Regarding the laws for marriage in church - a move to exempt Dissenters from the necessity to marry before a C. of E. clergyman; see entry for 26th - Catholics were excluded from the exemption despite Poynter's efforts. Rosslyn was Sir James St Clair Erskine (1762-1837), 2nd earl of Rosslyn , sometime MP and later Lord Privy Seal (DNB). Frans:ois Langlois ministered in Southampton. He retired to Staple Hill.

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May 30 Dined with Mr Maxwell, 33 Hill Street. June 1 I went to Mr Boswell, Somerset House, recd £20 pa. Saw Mr Wilds & Mr Archer. Dined at London Tavern for Borough Schools collection £614.15s. Revd Thos Gillow went to Paris. Mr Girvering. Recd letter from C Plowden, cannot send a priest to Soberton. Abbe Gonider. 328 June 3 Broderick about Percy. I called at L.I.Fields, Percy gone out. Ansd Ld Stourton, granted faculties as to Eng to Mr Thebault till end of 1819. Abbe Gonidec called, he will not sign the formula. Wrote to Mr White, Portsea, sent Rent of house. Abbe de Brooch, 5 Fitzroy Place, Fitzroy Sqr. Recd Mr Marland's money. Paid funeral bill £37.14s . June 5 Recd letter from Mr Delaney. Called on Mr Hugh Powell. Saw the Countess de Front about Bp's letter. Recd a letter from Marecha1. 329 Saw Countess de Front, Brighton. Wrote to Mr Rolfe. Wrote to Lejeais sending him a copy of Cardinal's letter. Examine Maintoney near Portugal Chapel. June 6 Gave Hugh Powell's papers to Mr Norris to draw out release. Also gave Mr Norris 3 bonds on Monmouth. Mr Bramston called about Brighton, Woolwich. Spoke to Percy in presence of Broderick & Turner. I will go to Br[ightonJ next Saturday. June 7 Confirmation at Somerstown, 75. June 8 Went 10 o'clock to Ld Clifford at L.I .Fields & Lambs Conduit School. Mr Law appointed to catechism in girls' school. Wrote to Langlois sending copy of Card's letter to Fr Clergy. To Mr Kimbell granting him personal vicarial powers as Mr Santher had. Facultas binandi Dno Cossangan apud Romsey ad 6 menses.

328 329

Perhaps L' Abbe Robert Le Gonidec, a priest of Treguier diocese; see next entry. The Archbishop of Baltimore.

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Facultates Dmnis P . Potier & Bullock ad tempus usitatum [Faculty to binate to Rev. Cossangan at Romsey for 6 months. Faculties to Revv. P Potier & Bullock for the usual time]. June 9 Virginia Street 3 & flock. Mr Bramston at 10. Audited books of Virg Street. Visited Costigan, discussed the Builder to examine the state of the house & report. We, Mr Bramston & self, examined Mr Costigan's accounts. June 10 Sir J. Throckmorton half past 6. 330 Saw Abbe Gonidec, he opposes the formula . I wrote to Bp Gibson returning Bp Milner's letter, to be returned with that of 11 May. Write to Rome for dispensation in 1st & 3rd affinities, woman to marry the husband (or widower) of her grandmother's sister, crim[en], property. June 12 Mr Bramston G.T. accounts. Dined at Duke of Norfolk's . June 13 Went to Brighton. Mr Gremare of West Grinstead signed the formula. Faculties to Sept 1819. June 15 Asked Mr Horabbin about Poplar School. 331 June 14 Baptisms Virginia St, 1817 Jan to Dec, 421. 1816,437 baptisms. June 16 Seminary examinations. Returned from Brighton. For Hammersmith Chapel due to Mr Gillow about £500. Seats not paid for. Bellisant - 14 yrs. Mr Morris would give £25 pa. Mr Morris receives only for Hammersmith £20 pa (pays for board £30 pa besides coals, candles etc) . At Reading Mr Gondre says Mass.332 Mr Togg hears catechism. Remember John Hall at 3 Mile Cross near Reading. Dalton man & wife still live in kitchen.

330 33 1

332

Sir John Throckmorton, ed ucated by the monks at Douai; died January 1819. Poplar was a mission from 1816; ECP 500. Jean Nicolas Gondre, missioner at Reading and East Hendred ; died 1827.

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June 17

Ansd Mr Thebault. Muddiford Ld Stourton's nr Christhurch[?}. Sent powers to Mr Mouchel & to Mr Rolfe. I signed an attestation about the validity of marriage in a Prot church given to Mr Dowell. House at Westminster £100 offered as free donation. Mrs Tucker, widow Lambeth & £100 to be returned with interest. Recd from Cottam Birdsall of Richmond Yorks £5. June 18

Recd letter from Mr Gradwell dated June 5. From Michael Hayes, New South Wales, Sydney, 8 Dec 1817. 333 From Webbe Weston.334 June 19

Wrote to Webbe Weston, to Mr Weld, to La Rue at Portsea 335 about Lemfrid's effects at Gosport. I saw Ld Bathurst; shewed him letter from New South Wales, told him Mr Dannery's despair, he desired me to write to him about Mr Dannery. East Lane Catholic Charity School, £5. June 21

Licentia celebrandi Missam ad 3 menses Dno Cauvine, Diocese Niciensi [Nice]. June 29

Sent to Ld Bathurst the letter recd from Michael Hayes, New South Wales. Zizlar at Abbe Voyaux wishes to take to church.

333

334

335

Transported to Australia after the Irish Rebellion in 1798, Michael Hayes wrote to his brother in Rome, a Franciscan priest, appealing for priests to be sent to the convict colony. Despite the doubts expressed by both Lord Bathurst and Dr Poynter, Propaganda appointed Jeremiah O'Flynn, a former monk from Lulworth, Prefect Apostolic of New Rolland. When O'Flynn was deported by Governor Macquarie in 1818, Hayes continued to write referring to 'the persecution of our priest', describing the governor as an 'infernal demon vomiting his prejudice' against Catholics (Patrick O'Farrell The Catholic Church & Community in Australia [1977], pp. 16-17). On the death in 1782 of the last of the old Catholic Weston family of Sutton Park, near Guildford, the estate passed to a relative, John Webbe, who added Weston to his family name (Kelly, p. 384). Portsea, Rants, a mission from the late 18th century; ECP 500.

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June 30 Agreed to allow Mr Brennan £50 pa; the other to be such at 10 per cent till it mounts to £100 pa. Told Mr Sidney to purchase chapel at £350 . July 2 Audited accounts at St George's Fields. Prorogatur facultas binandi CapeUanis apud Virginia Street ad 22 Janii 1819 [Faculty granted to chaplains of Virginia St to binate until 22 Jan 1819]. July 5 Sang High Mass at St George's Fields. July 6 Audited accounts at Moor Fields . Mr Greenway preparing and explaining catechism to poor girls . July 7 Audited Mr Sumner's accounts at Westminster. Visited his chapel. Poor money 31 years £104 18s 5p. Gave Mr Sidney £410 borrowed from workers to be repaid out of Powell's. Think of Mrs Kite, 70 East St. July 12 Ordained a Deacon at Castle Street. July 13 Poor Boys School at Hammersmith, 8 Mistresses (Johnson) Salary £25 pa. Clovely, Keene, Harting, Moor, de Franc's family , Mr Newn, Mr Hunt Irish. For chapel at Hammersmith, about £500 now remain due to Mr Gillow. Interest included. A guinea a seat. Shall we take it if Mr Gillow will give us a release of all for £200 .336 Girls to be sent in order; speak to Mrs McFranger[?]. July 15 Returned to town. Certified to Ambassador of France the signature of Mr Beecham. Granted powers for Convent, Hammersmith, during absence of Mr Lee to Mr Wilds.

336

The chapel of the convent in Hammersmith had been built by Mr Joseph Gillow in 1812; it served as the mission church until 1853 (Kelly, p. 200).

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July 17 Mr Rummins, little boy, 9 yrs old, would pay ÂŁ10 pa; born London, both parents English. Rev Mr Lee master of school.

III

July 18 I wrote to Mr Picquot to go to Spanish Chapel Au~ 1, to De La Rue 337 to remain at Portsea, to Edmund Norris 33 to go to St Ed's . July 19 I ordained Mr Staples Priest 339 , he is chaplain to Lord Shrewsbury. Examine whether M Silveria's pension was paid for July 1815. July 28 Agreed with Mr Chapman to let the arable land of Old Hall farm for 23s pa.340 He agreed to cast 36 chaldron of coals. July 29 Mr Gandolphy resigned his place as Chaplain to the Spanish Embassy to the Spanish Ambassador & sent me notice of the same. July 30 I answered Mr Capagneau of Romsey saying that as he refused to sign the formula he is deprived of his faculties & forbidden to say Mass or perform any Eccles service in the London District. July 31 Recd a letter from Mr Tuite. I wrote to Ld Dormer. Revd Thos Gillow called with Mr Clavering. I gave Mr Gillow his Bulls & papers; consequently my Jurisdiction over the West India Islands ceases from this day.

337 338 339

340

See note 154. Born in 1791 , he was ordained in 1828; died in 1843. Rev. James George Anthony Staples (1794-1874), educated at St Edmund's, later served in the Westminster diocese. The Diaries mention 3 farms at Old Hall, College Farm Riggory & Hole Farm.

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August 1 I sang High Mass in College de Spiritu Sancto & opened the Ecclesiastical Seminary.341 August 2 Mr Marc Tierney 23 yrs old ordained subdeacon. Mr Peter Hartley 26 yrs old ordained Priest at St Edmund's.342 August 3 Mr Mason who came on Sunday evening approved of what I had done in letting the College farm; saw Chapman, he is to allow 10 loads of straw at 15d more. August 4 I went to Mrs Heddedy at Ware. She will transfer the lease of the Hole farm. Recd letter from Mr Gradwell July 18 with dispensation from 1st & 3rd affinity . Write Gradwell about conveying the students. Nothing in Archives in Vatican about St Dunstan's in the West. August 5 Mr Bigg of Stanstead approved the crops on my side in the College farm & Mr Soden for Mr Chapman. I wrote to Mr Billington to ask whether there is any youth of Mr Richard Kendal's family disposed for the Ecclesiastical state. Mr Bramston came. August 7 Mr Bramston went. August 8 I wrote to Bps Gibson & Smith sending Mr Gradwell's letter of 18th July, requiring it to be returned with the others. August 9 I gave Confirmation & ordained Mr Mark Tierney Deacon ColI Chapel.

34 1 342

III

Reference to the removal of the younger students to the Old Hall under Thomas Griffiths. He served in the Northern District; died in 1847.

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August 11 I wrote to the Pope dated 13 about the formula, see copy, & to Mr Gradwell dated 12. August 12 I saw Mr Mellish about Riggory farm . I gave Mr Hartley a testimonial of his ordination as Priest. He leaves the ColI to go to his District. August 13 I returned to town. Mr Marsh & Mr Wilcock willing to go to Lisbon.343 August 14 I sent my letter to the Pope on the formula with copies of letters to Card Archbp of Paris & to Mr Gradwel1. I wrote to Mrs Moore of Bruges. Sent Bp Camions letter to Mr Tuite for Bp Paterson. I signed a second attestation for Revd Homer. I spoke to Mr Percy, Mr Campbell about Kenelly. August 15 Granted leave to profess to Mr Plaid, Kavanagh & Hamill. Mr McCarthy called about pay of ColI bill, about Stratford; willing to give up the chapel to me, as soon as debt paid to him. August 16 Sent by Chevalier d' Avolas to Mr Gradwell a copy of Cat0 344 & of Mr Poynter dechouant [ ?J & of the Orthodox of July, with a letter of thanks to Father Botticelli. August 17 Mr Roberts, Provincial of Franciscans. 345 August 18 Mr Mellish will call between 4 & 5. I sent a copy of my letter to Botticelli by Post. Answered Card Perrigord. I gave leave to Mr Stapleton to draw on Mr Hodgson ÂŁ47. lOs, for which ÂŁ30 for

343 344

345

The English College, Lisbon, where James Yorke Bramston had studied . The pen-name of an unknown priest who opposed Poynter over the antiBlanchardist formula (Ward 2, pp. 227-8). Fr William (Augustine) Roberts OFM (1763-1 827) served as Provincial at various times; there are frequent references to him in Dockery, Collingridge.

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repairs of chapel & £ 17.1 Os salary. Revv Thos Shimpson, Ch MacDonnell, Sumner, James Tanner. August 20 Mrs Bayly of Brook Green died RIP, leaving me & Mr Kimbell her executors. August 22 I returned from College. August 23 I went to Brook Green. August 24 I called on Bp Plunkett (of Elphin, Ireland) but did not remove the restriction from Rev Geo Plunkett. Bp Collingridge in town . August 25 Bp Collingridge dined with me . I sent Cato to Rome. Wrote to Mr Tuite. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Aug 8. Bp Paterson returned from Paris. Mr Bramston repaid Mr Hodgson for Shepherd's draft placed by mistake to Mr Hodgson viz to 1818 inclusive, £60, and for advanced for Sedgely Park, £15.0.7. August 26 On St Louis day Abbe Chene sang L. Mass assisted by Arch of Vannier. L'Abbe Feuillet says Mass at Broghe. I signed the lease of the School in Somerstown. I called on English Commission at 44 Parliament Street, left with them Mr Daniel's power of attorney to me, to receive all the moneys claimed in his name. August 27 Mrs Bayly buried. Pay £15 at Eccl Seminary for Mr Daly, 16 yr old born in Portsmouth. August 28 I recd a letter from Bp Plunkett which I answered . Keating 18 yr old. Mr McDonnell, 18 Pavements, Moor Fields, or 33 Fore St, Woolwich. August 29 Revd Geo Plunkett called on me. I answered him in wntmg, admitting the testimony of Mr Jones giving faculties to Mr Tours

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to absolve him from a censure, but not yet allowing him to say M privately. I recd a letter from Mr Gradwell, enclosing one for Dr Milner, which I forwarded . August 30

Bp Plunkett of Elphin left with me his will & a Policy of the Hope African Company; placed in a pigeon hole left hand. Returned to him Aug 30 1819. August 31

Recd a letter from Card Perrigord 18 Aug mentioning that Mr de la Rue & Jacques Le Tellier are appointed chaplains instead of Abbe Chene & Laine. A letter from Mr B announcing the dismissal of Mr Payne. September 1 Went to ColI. Bp Paterson left London. Enquire about bed, bedstead taken by Mr Potier, value according to memorial ÂŁ15 . September 2 Saw Mr Mellish, agreed him to take Hole Farm, reserving right to Barns & yard till May 1. Mass said Cochin Chardon in his house. Higgin Camden Town. Mr Le Couffle at Mrs Barnes. Mr de la Rue & Mr L Tellier new chaplains of King St presented themselves as new chaplains to say Mass at the ordinary times in King St Chapel. 346 Abbe Chene refused to let them say Mass .347 September 3 Determined sale of horse & hay to be on 14th. Recd a letter from Mr Jones of Broons asking leave to go to Monmouth. September 6 Preached at Virgo Street Chapel. September 7 Allowed Mr Muth to marry two Vagi [vagrants]. September 8 Sent Bps Gibson & Milner copies of rules of Roman ColI. Wrote to Mr Gradwell giving him copy of Bp Milner's letter. Forwarded 346 347

Hammersmith . On the ending of the Blanchardist schism, see Ward 2, pp. 22 1-32.

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a letter to Bp Paterson, forwarded Mr Gradwell's letter to Mr Kirk. Gave orders for £30.10s to be handed to Mr Salmon, Fixtures £25. Insurances £5.1 Os. September 10 Lent to Mr Barbera Pyx & three oil boxes. M .Barber (signed)

348

September 11 John Whelan at Old Hall Seminary, in Rock's place. Mrs Mackneal 15 Cowley St, lodgings for W Riley from 10 to 12s per week. September 12 Bp Collingridge extorted Mr Sumner from Westminster & agreed to leave Mr Riley to this District, 6 years if Mr Sumner remains more than 3 years in the Western, therein Mr Riley remains 3 years in the London. 349 September 13 Letters from Mr Gradwell & Preston, & from Rome to Bp Gibson Aug 27, sent to Dr Slater. I wrote to Bps Gibson, Collingridge, Messrs Gradwell & Preston. Riley at Old Hall to come to Westminster. September 14 Sent to Bp Gibson letters of Pope & Consalvi to be signed. Recd a letter from Mr Kirk, Revd Rich Sumner left Westminster. Revd Mr Riley. September 15 A letter from Mr Kirk, sent both to Mr Gradwell with a letter enclosed to Card Consalvi. See Copy Book Rome. 35o September 16 Recd a letter from Mr Lingard & Bp Gibson. I wrote to Mr Gradwell & to Card Litta informing him that I had recd the £264 18s 10d from Coutts. Missionary faculties to Revd Hen Riley ad

348 349 350

Probably Rev. Alexius Benjamin Barber (1791-1838), who had been ordained in 1816 at Valladolid. Probably Richard (Anthony) Sumner OFM (1775-1822); Mr Riley may be Henry Riley 1794-1849, ordained 1818. AA W/SEC, Series 12/4.

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tres annos . Recd from Coutts Banker, from Card Erskine's351 money, for Propaganda, ÂŁ264 18s lOd. Mr Bailly of the English Commission 44 Parliament Street told me that nothing could be done in the claims before the Sanction of Parliament, that the sum given by the Fr Govt would not meet half the amount of the claims, that they are now employed in the doubtful claims, that whether the religious claims of Communities, as Communities, are admitted or not, Individuals whether religious or not would be allowed to claim what is their individual property amongst the property of those Communities. 352 September 17 I wrote to Mr Birch to send Threlsale next Tuesday for Old Hall. Recd a letter fram Mr Irving of Valladolid dated Aug 23. I agreed to pay for Mitchell at Sedgely Park recommended by Mr Greenway. September 18 I went to College. los Siddens sub Diaconate, Ricd Crosby, Ricd Harris & Daniel Rock before going to Rome, took the College oath. 353 September 19 los Silveira, Ricd Albery, Dan Rock, recd tonsure, Porter & Lector. los Siddens, In Kearns, Watkins, Doyle & los Silveira ordained Exorcists & Acolytes. los Siddens ordained subdeacon. Mark Tierney ordained Priest. 354 September 21 Returned to town . Gowie 17 & half yrs, recommended by Mr Nerincks, Flemish. 355

351

352 353 354 355

Cardinal Charles Erskine (1743-1811), was born in Rome of Scottish ancestry; he served in the papal service as a ski lied canonist and was in London 1793-180 I as a semi-offical negotiator; cardinal in petto 1801, but never ordained priest (D. Bellenger and S. F letcher, Princes of the Church, pp. 105-7). See Ward 3, pp. 133-5. The oath that had been taken at Douai to obey the President to go on the English mission. Rev. Mark Tierney (1795-1862) well-known historian , became a priest of the Southwark Diocese (DNB). L'Abbe Nerinckx, a Belgian, ministered in Somers Town for over fifty years (Ward 1 p. 194).

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September 22 Sent to Bp Collingridge letters of thanks to the Pope & C Consalvi, desiring him to return them immediately. September 23 Recd a letter from Mgr de Montblanc, Ev[eque] de St Die,356 Missions Etrangeres Rue du Bac, which I forwarded to Dr Walsh Bp of Waterford. Nov 10 I sent Dr Walsh's answer to Mgr Montblanc. Wrote to Mr Webster about Kingston. Licentia Missam celebrandi in Distr Lond PRIVATIM [sic] ad annum Revd Dno G Plunkett [Permission to Revd G. Plunkett to say private Masses in the London District for a year]. September 24 Prorogantur facultates Revd Dno Danville apud London P ad finem Augusti 1819 [Faculties to Rev. Danville of London granted to the end of August 1819]. September 25 Jos Whitwell arrived from Lisbon. Sir J. Hippisley called. Sent Ch Trelfall to the College. 357 September 26 Sir 1. Warren Hotel Waterloo Place. Buthomier of Eton declined signing the formula & sent back his faculties . September 27 By a letter dated 27 Sept Revd Thos Gillow delegated to me all the power of Jurisdiction conferred upon him by the Pope's Briefs on the West Indian Islands until such time as some other person is appointed in his place. September 28 Somerstown, Rose Burke, boy William. September 29 Mr Barber appointed to care of Congregation at Poplar. Benj Barber licentia binandi ad 3 menses [Permission to binate to

356

357

Agustin-Louis de Montblanc (1761-1841), appointed bishop of St-Die in 1817, but moved to Tours in 1820 before being consecrated; awarded a doctorate by Oxford while in exile in England (Episcopal). Charles Threlfall was to be ordained in 1828, but he died at the age of 37 in 1839.

OCTOBER

1818

153

Benjamin Barber for three months]. Borrowed of Dr Poynter a gilt chalice & paten & a small ciborium to be returned on demand by me Benj Barber two altar cloths, Mr Barber (signed) . Messrs John Kearns, Richd Crosby, Rich Alberry & Daniel Rock 358 set off from London to Liverpool in their way to Rome, they sail in the Susanna Oct 2 from Liverpool in company with 6 students from Ushaw viz Messrs Gillow, Wiseman,359 Fleetwood, Kavanagh, Sharples 360 & Heptonstall of whom 4 belong to Northern & 2 to the Western District. Paid for ROM. [sic] Students coach from ColI £2 .14sAd, coach to Liverpool £13.6s. Given to Alberry, Crosby, Rock £5 each, Luggage £2, expenses to & at Liverpool & postage money £72 14s. Total £105 14s 4d. October 1 Spent this day in examining Mr Southworth's effects.361 October 2 Ditto in inventory. NB £600 due to Mr J.Knapp362 from that chapel for which £30 pa paid by chaplain at Portsea. House at Gosport occupied by Mr Hoskins. October 3 Employed in exammmg offertories till 11 o'clock. Went to Portsea & to Gosport,363 examine the priest's house at Gosport, ordered some repairs to be made. Mr L Marchand is returned, still refuses to sign the formula. Returned to Portsea. October 4 I preached, sung Mass at Gosport. Mr Barber said Mass m the chapel school at Poplar.

358 359

360 36 1 362 363

The first batch of students from St Edmund's sent to the English College, Rome. Danjel Rock became a renowned archaeologist and author (DNB) . The future Cardinal Nicholas Wiseman was among the students sent to Rome from Ushaw. James Sharples, ordained 1823, became co-adjutor V.A. of the Lancashire District in 1843; he died in 1850. At Poynter's home rrussion, Brockhampton, Havant. Joseph Knapp (1747-1818) had taught and been ordained at St Orner (1775). Minjstered at Portsea and Brockhampton. Both missions were founded from Brockhampton, Gosport in 1763 Portsea (now replaced by Portsmouth Cathedral) in 1791.

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October 5 Returned to London. Mr Molie 364 quitted Sutton Place, his faculties cease (Oct 8) & he is as he was before he went to Sutton Place. October 6 Recd letter from Pope, Litta & Gradwell in answer to mine of 13 Aug concerning the Formula for French. Recd the lease of the Boys School in Somerstown. Grant leave for Miss Reynolds to enter her Noviciate at New Hall. 365 Look to the expenses of receipts to Mr MacSand's executorship, see June 3. October 8 Mr Bryan,11 yrs old. Sent a copy of Litta's & the Pope's letter to the Card Le Brigout in Paris. Enquire about the marriage of Mrs Peacock (olim Pinea) baptised at St George's Hanover Square & married in the parish, her being under constraint or her husband not fully consenting. A letter should have been given by Spanish law. October 9 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell at Preston, students sailed on 2nd, pay £72.14s to Sir Ric Carr, Glynn & Co, 12 Birchin Lane; on J . & G . Gradwell's accounts with Messrs Clayton & Wilson. I delivered to Fr Ambassador copy of Pope's letter. Pay £50 to Wright's. Norman, French Priest, to duplicate 1 Sunday in 4; he says Mass at Mr Moranais, Islington Street. Anthony Magee,16, Irish. October 16 Donation of £30 to new chapel of Moor Fields by Rev. Mr. Howard[?} - 2 Masses per ann . I add - the obligation of Mass to begin when chapel begins to be used & to continue only as long as it is used as a chapel. [illegible} out of receipts of chapel. I signed my resignation of the lease of Hole Farm. October 19 A letter from Revd Thos Gillow conferring on me power for the West Indies .366 Mr Bramston called. Brighton.

364 365 366

Probably Pierre Jean Molie (1755-1829) of the Diocese of Rennes. Canonesses of the Holy Sepulchre. But see entry for September 27 above.

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155

October 20 I wrote to Mr Gradwell & to Mr Jones to go to Sutton Place. 367 Wrote to Mr Tuite. October 21 Answered Mr Irving at Valladolid giving him leave again to come to England for a short time. Wrote to Mr Weld. Mr Hill removed from Cotton for engaging my students to leave the College & District & go to America. Mr Rolfe called. Asked let him be off from Virgo Street. October 23 I wrote to Mr Cupen to ask whether he is willing to remain fixed at Brighton. Recd a letter from Dr Troy congratulating me on the Pope's letter concerning the priests. October 24 Recd a large Packet from Rome ÂŁ7.9s 6d contammg letters for Bombay & Macao. I put the letter for Bombay into the Ship Cotter Office this day . October 25 Preached at Westminster Chapel. 368 October 26 Wrote to Mr Gradwell acknowledging receipt of packet 24th, mentioning Gibraltar. Wrote to Mr Cullen to say whether Virgo Street or Brighton. October 27 I wrote to Mr White at Winchester to say that his accounts should run from the balance of Aug. 1816. October 29 Recd (by Dr Slate~ letters from the Card Chartres. Mr Cullen 3 9 appointed to Brighton.

367 368 369

III

Perrigord &

Near Guildford. A mission from the beginning of the Reformation; ECP 500 (Kelly, pp. 384-5). The priest in question was probably John Jones (1780-1 850). The chapel was in Romney Terrace, Horseferry Road. Rev. Edward Cullen (1777-1850), born in Ireland, educated at St Edmund's.

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October 30 Mr Bramston & I were subpoenaed to appear at Marshalsea Court, but were not called in.370 Mr Rolfe appointed to St Patrick's.371 I signed my name to a Visa to the appointment of Messrs Chene et Laine giving powers till the end of January. I left Mr Southworth's will & codicil; also Mrs . Bayly's wills. October 31 Reed a letter from Amiens & Mr Tuite & from Dr Troy. Wrote to Bp Gibson (see copy book). November 1 Reed a letter from Pretre at St Genevieve No 50 asking for the address of Mr Cambois. November 2 I went to Brook Green to collect particulars concerning Mrs Bayly's property. I gave leave to Mr Riley to go & see his dying Father. He engaged M. Molie to do duty for him . I gave all the usual Missionary faculties to Mr Molie to the end of the month. November 5 I swore to the will of Mrs Bayly, under 2000. Also I attested the signatures of Mr Griffiths, Mr Nerinks & Mr Hill . NB, Mr Nerinks attested simply that the declaration made by Mrs Hill (that she consented for Mr Hill to become an Ecclesiastic or Religious & to take a vow of chastity) was made in his presence & signed by her hand . November 6 I met Sir Tho. Webb at Mr Nic Selby's, about Lady Newb. [sicj3n It was agreed that the Trustees were to interfere. I called at Messrs Wrights about the declaration of Trust of 3,600 to Bp Douglass. I found that this sum & 7,800 of the other trust to the 4 VV.A had been transferred in a sum of 11,400 to the Trustees of Stonyhurst.

370

371 372

It is not clear what the issue was - possibly the work of the Commissioners

regarding the French funds , or the debts of an individual priest. St Patrick's, Soho. A mission from 1792; ECP 7000. Sir Thomas Webb of Odstock, Wilts., who had succeeded as 6th baronet in 1797. For Lady Newburgh, see note 473 .

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November 9 Mr Fryer called. We agreed that Hugh Powell's mortgage was only 400. November 11 I went to Somerset House for Papers about Mr Southworth 373 & Mrs Bayly's wills. November 12 Chapter held at Castle St. Rec'd letter from Mr Gradwell, Leghorn 29 Oct. November 16 Recd a letter from Mr Kimbell dated Brockhampton Nov.IS, 1818 attesting that "Dr Bew makes over to me all the furniture of the house at Brighton for the use of the Chapel. He wishes the incumbent should be under the obligation of leaving the house in as good a state, as to furniture, as he found it" . [From November 17 to December 9 there are only occasional references to letters and isolated sums of money.} December 9 Mr Broderick came about Dan. OLeary. I spoke to Mr B. about the imprudent language of some in London about College. December 11 Wrote to Keating charging him not to publish or circulate the Hist. & Revelation of Soeur Nativite without approval of Ordinary.374 December 12 Letter from the Pope about Mr Peacock. December 15 Rec'd a parcel of letters from Prop. about Gandolphy, etc. Ansd Pope's letter about marriage of Sophie Peacock.

373 374

See note 254. Southworth had been the executor of Bp James Talbot. The reference is unclear.

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December 18 Rev Mr Molie consented to go to Reading but did not go. December 20 Wrote to Mr Molie & Mr Webster informing him that Mr Molie had accepted Reading & telling him to let him have the house. December 21 Sent to Mr Bramston my letter to the Propa to be read & forwarded, dated Dec 18 1818. December 23 Mr Riley went to Virginia Street. Mr Langrenais to Westminster.

JANUARY

1819

159

1819 January 1 Paid my compliments to the French, Spanish, Sardinian, Portuguese, Bavarian Ambassadors, Castlereagh, Lord Bathurst & Duke of Norfolk

Austrian, to Ld

January 2 Wrote to Mr Mortuaire,375 Stonor Park, that faculties for Lond Dist continue as long as faculties for Mid D. Wrote to Mr Bramston, Mr Ansell to continue as long as Mr Hurst continues to officiate there .according to the agreed arrangement. January 4 Facultates pro Gallis prorogantur Dno Le Tellier ad finem huius anni et facultates similes Dno Joan Nic Gondre ex Reading [Faculties to Abbe Le Tellier for the French until the end of this year and also to Abbe Jean Nicholas Gondre from Reading]. January 5 Sent to Propaganda copies of letters & documents relating to Dr O'Conor with dispensation for a perinde valere [an overall power of dispensation], & leave to draw for ÂŁ50 more. January 6 Sent Power of Attorney to Mr Tuite. Facultates Dno Jean Etienne Ie Verre apud Richmond & Dno Chabot 376 apud Epsom pro Schola Dni Mylii ad 6 Jan 1820 [Faculties to Abbe Etienne Ie Verre at Richmond and to Abbe Chabot at Epsom for Dom Mylii's school until 6 Jan 1820]. January 7 Mr Mathias a school in York Street, many English. January 8 Wrote to Bp Smith, sent him a copy of the Decretum Indicis.

375 376

L' Abbe Jean Baptiste Morluaire was at Stonor for 35 years until his death in 1830. Claud Sebastien Chabot tutored in St Albans and Carshalton, and ministered in Shefford and Epsom where he died in 1852.

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January 9 Sent to Ld Castlereagh copies of Protest to King of France, Ordonnance, of Papers given to Sir Ch Stuart. Dno Stewart facultas binandi ad 6 menses. January 11 Letter from Ld Castlereagh inviting me to come to him in a week's time. I went to Ld Sidmouth 377 to obtain leave for Mr De la rue to attend the Catholics on Board the Hulks at Portsea. Facultates binandi Dno de la Rue ad 29 Jun. Capellanis Virg Street facultates binandi ad 29 Jun 1819 [Permission for Abbe de la Rue and for the chaplains at Virginia Street to binate Masses until 29 Jun 1819]. January 12 Granted a testimonium vitae to Prof Aldani, member of the Int of Bologna; refused permission to say Mass to Ch Praniewiez, Priest. January 14 Finchley Common, Holloway, Hornsey, Kentish Town. January 15 I wrote to Mr Gradwell & to the Congregation de Propaganda proposing Mr Buckley for W Indies. Wrote to Mr Kimbell to come to town for surrender of Brook Green to me. January 18 Last 378 [toJ College. January 19 Mr Kimbell came to town. Facultates pro Anglis Dno Longuemare ad annum [Faculties to Dom Longuemare to administer to the English for a year].

377 378

The Home Secretary. Probably George Edward Last (1804-1 892), ordained in 1830.

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1819

161

January 20 Recd a letter from Ld Bathurst informing me that the Prince Regent has given his approbation to Mr Buckley.379 The Portuguese Ambassador called on me. January 21 I finally settled the executorship of Mr Ric Southworth & paid duty. January 22 Wrote to Card Fontana & to Mr Gradwell. I asked for a dispensation ab impedimento criminis. I received from Mr Butler letters from Ld Guildford & C . Lebzeltern[? J petitioning for Mr Wareing to remain with the young Frazers at Lisbon .38o Mr Molie declined going to Reading after having engaged to go. January 25 I audited the accounts at Moor Fields. Wrote to Mr Thos Gillow to inform him that another Person was proposed for the W Indies. Wrote to Mr Boudon to come away from Brighton. January 26 Audited accounts Lincoln's Inn Fields. Spoke to Mr Percy about not attending the Catechism of the School. Returned to Mr Priestly the letter received 22nd saying I will write. January 27 Held St Patrick's audit here. January 29 Prorogata licentia Missam celebrandi Dno MacDonnell ad mensem [Permission to say Mass for a month granted to Mr MacDonnel[j .

379 380

Rev. James Buckley had been ordained in 1794, was president of Lisbon 1806, appointed V.A. of the West Indies (1819-28) and died in Trinidad 1828. Lord Guildford was Frederick North (1766-1 827), 5th Earl of Guildford, who joined the Greek Orthodox Church in 1792; he lived for many years in various Mediterranean countries (New DNB) .

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January 30 Received a letter from Mr Gradwell dated 18 Jan . Sang High Mass at Spanish Chapel for Queen of Spain. Facultates ad annum Dno Buffet R .M ,38 1 Col Sandhurst no 19. February 1 Dined with Portuguese Ambassador. Settled affairs at Somerset House, legacy duty for Mrs Bayly's' Will. February 2 Wrote to Mr Daniel about application of legacy left by Mr Le Blanche. Dined at Mr Short's. I suggested Mr Varley to go to Rome as Confessor. Prorogatur facultas Dno Mathias 1. pro Anglis confessionem iam recipit, 2. pro aliis Dni Carpue [Faculties are renewed 1. for Abbe Mathias to continue to hear the confessions of the English and 2. for Mr Carpue to hear the confessions of others]. February 3 Went to Ld Castlereagh, could not see him. Wrote to Mr Gradwell. February 4 Called on Mr Mackenzie, recd a letter from Mr Tuite, still in possession. 382 February 5 Recd an answer from Ld Castlereagh that his business prevented him from seeing me. Mr Varley left London for Rome, I sent by him the Orthodox [with] my examination of Columbanus, Gandophy's Expositio Apologetica, Vera Informatio Circa Missionaries to be returned . I told Mr Varley to draw me from Paris (by Mr Tuite) for ÂŁ5. I wrote a long letter to Mr Gradwell about Bp Milner's letter in Orthodox concerning parts of New Test, Columbanus,383 Gandolphy & the Jesuits, also about the V.A.'s out of their Districts. 38 1 382 383

L'Abbe Louis Adrien Buffet of the Diocese of Evreux. Rev. Francis Tuite had been made administrator of the affai rs of the former English College at St Orner. Poynter'S Theological Examinations of Columbanus (London 1811), written in answer to Rev. Charles O'Conor s pamphlet Columbanus ad Hibernos , which had supported the idea of a government veto on Catholic appointments; see Ward 1 pp. 145-7, and 3, pp . 18 1-3.

FEBRUARY

1819

163

February 6 Sang High Mass at Portuguese Chapel. February 7 I preached at Spanish Chapel. 384 Gregorio Pietro Giarue Archbp of Jerusalem came to procure Syrian types, he has a letter of recommendation from Card Litta & letters from Card Perrigord, Archbp of Toulouse, Chaumont, Desjardins. 385 February 8 Mr V oze recommends his nephew George to Sedgley Park. February 9 I sent letter of Protest to French King. February 10 Went with Bp Slater 386 to Mr & Mrs Butler in the City. February 11 Received a faculty from Gr Penitentiary sent by Mr Hill, cost 5/9, & a letter from Peddicine 1/ 11 d. February 12 Wrote to Mr De Gazes. Sent the letter to Mr Tuite. February 15 Saw Mr Blake 387 about Emancipation. Mr MoreP88 brought me Mrs Hill's answers to two questions. Mr Kiernan sent me a legacy of the Will of Mrs Mary Smith deceased, in which I have a contingent Interest. I have put it into the Green book. Wrote to Mr Danneville to say that no change can be made in the appointment of the Priest who attends the Prison at Chelmsford. NB Lord Petre pays ÂŁ10 to the Pr who attends the Prison at Chelmsford, ÂŁ20 to Crondon Park.

384 385 386 387 388

Manchester Square. Perigord was Cardinal Archbishop of Paris; the Archbishop of Toulouse was Fran90is de Bovet; the other names are not known. Bishop Edward Slater OSB, V.A. of Mauritius. Member of the Scripture Committee of the Catholic Board. L' Abbe Jean Jacques Morel (1769-1 852), founder of the mission and chapel in Hampstead, where he is buried in the porch; portrait in Bellenger, French clergy, p.223.

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February 16 Wrote to Mr Worey at Lisbon saying Earn to prolong his stay there. Wrote to Card Pierto sending back the faculty & also sending Mrs Hill's answers . Wrote to Mr Gradwell. February 17 Mr Murphy, No 8 Ship Yard, Temple Bar. Wrote to Bp Smith to procure certificate of Baptism for John Brier. February 18 Send deeds of farms at Old Hall to Chapman. Mr Varley leaves Paris for Rome. Send to Revd M Morris the Notice of Land in hand fire office. Sent to Abbe Grimouville 389 at Jersey, thanking him for continuing, sending £20 & a copy of the Pope's letter 16 Sept concerning the formula, with a copy of Paper containing a list of the French Clergy who have signed, ordering the formula to be subscribed by the French Clergy in Jersey & Guernsey before 25 March. February 19 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Jan 30, & from Mr Tuite dated 15 Feb a draft for Doway ColI, £46 2 6. February 20 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Feb 4 containing a perinde valere to the dispensation of 6 Dec. February 22 Went to Brook Green. February 23 Concessa Revd Dno Horrabin facultas exegendi dispensationes cum perinde valere 31 Jan 1819 [Faculty to execute the dispensations with overall powers from 31 Jan 1819 granted to Revd Mr Horrabin]. I signed the deed of Mr Rawe's donation of £400 to the Priest at Marnhull, left in trust to RR W. Poynter, Collingridge and Mr Huddleston, & sent the deed to Bp Collingridge with a copy of Bp Challoner's translation of the New Testament 1749. Thos Long: consider Long for seminary,

389

L'Abbe Charles Grimouville-Larchant (1751-1821), Canon of Lisieux, v.G. of Bishop Douglass for the Channel Islands (1803).

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1819

165

born in England, but of French parents. Parents domiciled in England. February 24 Mr Goulburn 39o sent for me to provide a Priest for Dominica, as Abbe Perron is dangerously ill. He knows of the address of Abbe Bertouin in whom is mentioned the sum given by the French missionaries to the Fr Govt to recover their Islands from us. I spoke of the necessity of allowing ÂŁ1000 a year to educate clergy for the Colonies. Answd Mgr Plessis Explanation de Quebec. 391 Recd a letter from Mr Tuite dated 20th, he had delivered the Protest to Card Perrigord, who proposes to put it into the hands of the King. A letter from Pedicini (l j lld) about Leper's marriage. February 26 Answered Pedicini sending the certificates from Portuguese Chapel; wrote to Mr Gradwell, to Bp Coppinger, to Mr Griffiths. Recd a letter from Mr Kirk, Sir J C Hippisley, Dr Slater. Facultas intra mensem Dno McDonnell dispensandi in impedimento criminis 392 [Faculty to Mr McDonnell to dispense from the impediment of crimen within a month]. NB Jan 17 1818 pd Postage of letter to Card Consalvi to & from England ÂŁ2.19.7. February 27 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell with dispensation from 1 & 3 consang & exsequenda. March 1 Mr Jones gave me Mrs Greaves' note about chalice & church ornaments intended for Dover. Went to meeting about new Chapel at Moor Fields . I was requested to ask the Duke of Norfolk to preside at the Dinner. I sent baptismal register to Hamburg.

390 39 1

392

The Colonial Secretary. Mgr. Joseph Octave Plessis (l762-1825); Bishop (later Archbishop) of Quebec, 1806, was a strong leader of the French nationalists and defender of Catholic rights. The 'Explanation' mentioned by Poynter might have been Plessis' arguments for metropolitan status for Quebec, which he took to Rome in vain in 1818. See entry for Aug.l6 below (New DNB). 'crimen' - a diriment impediment to marriage; see note 413.

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March 2 Reed a letter from Card Fontana 13 Feb. I wrote to Mr Gradwell sending the facsimile of Cork Medal, begging that the dispensation consang might be effected & begging for vestments for Moor Fields new chapel.

March 3 I gave an attestation of the authenticity of the signature of Card Litta to the Archbp of Jerusalem. I answered Messrs Crowden & Lane that I have no papers of the date they want about Meredith's affairs . Spoke to Mr Archer about M Serjeant's allowance, he desired me to call for a fair statement from Mr Thompson. I wrote to Mr Luburn to that effect. I agreed to whatever Mr Archer should think proper concerning Mr Jones removed to Warwick Street. 393

March 4 Lord Nugent 394 mentioned the petition of the English Catholics to the House of Commons.

March 5 Went to College for ordinations with Messrs Polding 395 & Phillips, English Benedictines from Downside. Thos Doyle, Jos Silveira, Dan Whitwell made the profession of Faith & took the College Oath.

March 6 Saturday Ember Day ordained Bede Polding, Maurus Phillips Priests, Benedictines, by dimissorials from Bp Collingridge, Joseph Saddens (22) Deacon. Thomas Doyle (25), James Watkins (24), Joseph Silveira (24), Daniel O'Leary (22), Dan Whitwell (22) Subdeacon ad tit missionis, John Radford (23), Rich Kelly (20), James Luddy (20), John Hutchison (23), John Clark (25), John Welsh (23) Tonsure Porter & Lector.

393 394

395

The Bavarian Chapel, rebuilt after the Gordon riots; ECP 5000. The 2nd Baron Nugent laid before the Commons a petition asking for relief for Catholics; organised by the Catholic Board in January 1819 it had attracted over 10,000 signatures; no debate took place either in the Commons or the Lords, where Earl Grey had introduced it (Ward 2, pp. 249-50). See also under February 27, 1821. Bede Polding became V.A. of New Holland and Van Diemen 's Land in 1834 and Archbishop of Sydney in 1842 (Dom Aidan Bellenger, William Bernard Ullathorne, Birmingham 2002).

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March 7

Wrote to Mr Jones of Monmouth accepting Cuthbert Stubbes & to Mr Hunt & Mr Gradwell, to be carried by Mr Carmolli. March 8

Returned to town. March 9

Sent to Mr Booker the translation of Baron de Stark. Sent to Mr Reardon deeds relating to Moor Fields. Lease Pakeman & Tower to Mr Hunt 7 Jan 1780. Assignment Hunt to James Talbot 31 July 1781. Lease Douglass to Geo Tower for 384. Lease Merchant TayIOl;'s Camp to J Douglass 39 & quarter rent. March 10

Called on Mr Goulburn about an allowance to Bp Slater to go to Ireland to get Priests for New S Wales, he will answer after speaking to Lord Bathurst. March 11 Wrote to Bp Milner gIvmg an account of my transaction m France; to Bp Collingridge & to Sir J.H. March 12

Wrote to Mr Gradwell for a dispensation disp. cultus [disparity of cult]. March 14

Thos Doyle, James Watkins, Joseph Silveira ordained Deacons extra tempora. 396 March 15

Doctor Vitiali Physician (Priest), Antomarchi Surgeon, Abbe Bonavista Priest as Apostolic Missionary from Propaganda: all to St Helena with Lord Bathurst's permission.

396

Canon Law laid down certain days for ordinations to major orders. Frs Doyle and Silveira became priests of the Southwark Diocese; Fr Watkins quarrelled with Bp Brampton, went to Australia for a time and returned to the Diocese of Newport and Menevia (Fitzgerald-Lombard, English Priests).

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March 16

Returned to town. Brought Mr O'Leary to live with us as Secretary clerk in Castle Street. March 17

Sent Mr Clavering's letter about Mr Birdale to Bp Collingridge, Gothic Villa, Cheltenham. Ellen Clavering. March 18

Recd letter from Mr Thompson. I sent same to Mr Archer. Granted to Mr Horrabin to begin the obligation of the Easter duty for his Penitents from the 4th Sunday of Lent inclusive. Facuitates Missionares concessae Dno Joa White apud Old Hall Green [Missionary faculties granted to Rev. John White at Old Hall Green]. 397 March 19

Mr Westinghaven to call at 1 o'clock about Miss Ricketts 17 Russel Sq Fitzroy Square. March 20

Dr Slater went to Paris to procure church ornaments for the churches in the Mauritius. Governor Farquahar of the Mauritius & Sir Alex Johnson of Ceylon are very favourable. Recd a letter from Mr Brown of Ushaw stating the condition of Bp Gibson, unable to exercise Ep Jurid & begging I would advise Bp Smith to act. From Messrs Minser & Cherbough about Blacker's affairs. March 22

Recd a letter from Ld Clifford about Marriage Act. 398 March 23

Recd a letter from Mr Daniel about Blacker's will; from Dr Curtis about Dr Milner & Gandolphy. Gradwell about Gandolphy. Answered Mr Brown of Ushaw that Bp Smith can't act, let 2 or 3 Grand Vic[ar]s take the case to Rome & beg for powers for Bp Smith. A packet from Propaganda [with] dispensation about impedimento criminis cost 19/2d. Letters al Molto

397 398

Rev. John Willte had been ordained in 1816; he died in 1842. Bishop Poynter drew up a short bill dealing with the position of Catholic marriage, but the Catholic case was not discussed in Parliament (Ward 3, p. 93).

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1819

169

Revd II Sign. D. Carlo M . Rosetti, Philadelphia sent Ap 6th by Post; al Molto Revde. Collins S.J. , Raphael Cicala Sacerd del Congn Mission Bombay, sent by ship letter office March 24 1819. March 24 Went to Mr Butler about Marriage Act. Wrote to Ld Clifford, Sir J Hippisley, Mr Sumner & to Missionary Manser of Cherbourgh to inform them that I had paid Blacker's money. All for one Packet, sent to Messrs Butler, Old South Sea House, Mar 24 to be forwarded by them to Macao: al Revmo Sign. Macao Dne. Colmo[?], II Sacerd. dom Gio[vanni] Batt[ist]a Marchini, Procuratore della sacra Congregatione de Popra Fide nella China-Macao, at the same address as Marchini al [illegible] Sig. D. Raphael Umpierres Admod[um] R[everen]do Dno in Christo, Dno Aloysio Fontana missionario apostolico, Sutchuen in Sinis. March 25 Consecrated a chalice & Paten for Virginia Street. Thomas Transievitch calling himself a Catholic Priest of the Diocese of Vilna called for leave to say Mass, but not having sufficient testimonials, I refused him; 9 Catherine St near Tower; he shewed me his litterae of Feb 3, testimonials, after & I gave him leave for 3 months. March 26 Went to College. March 27 Thos Doyle, James Watkins ordained Priests. 399 Returned to town. Recd letter from Bp Collingridge. Mr Varley arrived III Rome. March 28 Confirmed Mr John Cooper, Justinus [sic). March 29 Recd a letter from Le Clerc & Singleton at Lisbon expressing their happiness & repelling all the unfavourable reports. Duke of Norfolk called with a letter of address of Gandolphy asking for my opinion. I answd His Grace. Granted dimissorials to Peter MacCallister born in Jersey to belong to the Diocese of Rennes.

399

See note 396.

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March 30 Letter from Mr Gradwell 13 March. Sent copies of Gandolphy's letter & address to Mr Gradwell & answd the letter of 13 March. Answered letter from Sir J Hippisley. Letter Packet from Prop a, pd 15/4d: Padre Gio Luigi di SAnna, Missario Nell' India Bombay, sent Mar 31 by ship. Illmo ac Rev Dno Thoma Scallan, Episcopo Dafancuri, Coadjutor Vic. Ap . Terra Nova in America, sent by Post Apr 6; Dr Slater appointed to be Vic. Ap. at Mauritius dated 11 March 1819; !lImo ac Rev Dno Ambrosio Marechel, Archbp Baltimoriensis in Amer. Sept. 400 sent by Post Ap 6; Raphaele Cicala Pinte de la Cong Ma Mission Bombay India Orientali, sent Mar 31. 401 March 31 I went to Lord Sidmouth with papers about Jesuits; he said there is no authority for saying that Govt has no objection to them, see papers. Answered Dr Curtis. April 1 Recd a letter from Mr Brown of Ushaw; from Mr Cullen. News of Mr Throckmorton's death RIP. Sent the accounts of Ric J White to Mr John Blanchussett, Dublin. Answered Mr Brown. April 2 Ld Sidmouth sent for & told me that the Prince Regent & his Majesty's Govt had an insuperable objection to the establishment of the Jesuits in England. Recd Lord Sidmouth's letter to that effect. Recd a letter from Ld Clifford announcing death of his daughter Charlotte Ann Langdale. Answd Ld Clifford. Wrote to Card Consalvi with a copy of Ld Sidmouth's letter. I added a line to Mr Gradwell . April 5 Mrs Murphy, 8 Ship Yard, Temple Bar. Fielder & Barchley, 22 Duke St, Grosvenor Square. April 6 Wrote to J Hawke St Serven Dept de Morbihan; Mad. Zepphyria; Mr Tuite, Mr Kirk, Mr Gradwell sending copies of my note & letter to Ld Scomaille with a judgement of Ld S's let-

400 40 1

North America. The entry is a good example of how Poynter acted as postman for Propaganda.

APRIL 1819

171

ter. Sent bulls Ap 6 1819 Mr Buckley, Episcopus Gemensis. 402 Ant J Macey, born in Somerstown in England, 12 years - 16 yrs of age. Recd Packet from Rome pd ÂŁ1.4.1, containing letter for Mr Buckley, ditto for Dr Slater. April 12

Wrote to Card Fontana, sending letter to Mr Gradwell. Recd letter from Mr Gradwell dated March 25. April 13

Returned to town. Mr Buckley & Mr Bramston met me at lunch. Sent the letter for Card Fontana to Mr Gradwel1. Letter from Propa. cost 5/9d; il Reverendissimo P D Ignazio des Bayt, Missionario di propa., redeunte dalla China. April 14

Mr Julian Lussan from Grenada called, told me Mr Dannery had left Grenada & was gone to Guadaloupe; 17 Huntley Hotel, Leicester Sq. Mr Addis will go to Sutton Place for next Sunday. April 15

Dinner at London Tavern for Moor Fields New Chapel; collection, ÂŁ1239 odd. April 16

I wrote to Mr Gandolphy to admonish him that the 4 months allowed for his signature are expired. I called upon British Commission: the claims of Colleges & Convents are included in the number given in by Ld Castlereagh. April 17

Recd a letter from Gradwell with dispensation 1 & 3 affin, dispensation executed Ap 20 by Mr Laine. April 20

Recd letter from Mr White of Winchester. Recd a long letter from Mr Gandolphy dated Apr 20. Wrote to Card Fontana to say that Mr Gandolphy had not sent me his signature of the formula. Sent to Mr Gradwell copies of letter of Dr Curtis to me & my answer. Revd Dno Raphael Serra, Ordinis Dominici ex insulis Philippinis, ad suum Conventum in Valentia redeunte licentia 402

See note 379.

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Missam celebrandi in Distr Lond ad 2 menses [To the Revd Raphael Serra of the Dominican Order in the Philippines on his return to his House in Valentia permission to say Mass in the London District for two months]; also to Francesco Villacorta Augustina for one month. April 22 Called on Mr Grattan. 403 April 26 Wm Atchison, 14 last year, baptised & commended by Mr Greenway. Sent copies of the new Episcopal Oath404 to Bps Milner, Gibson & Collingridge, with an indult of an Altare Privi1. 405 April 27 Wrote to Mr Tuite about accounts, ordonnances, Masses. To Mr Gradwell sending Gandolphy letter with observations desiring him to enquire about the term of our faculties; to extend my reductio Missarum to June 7; to send the condemnation of Index to Mr Tuite. Wrote a second letter to Mr Gradwell with copies of Papers of Archbp of Jerusalem & a letter concerning him. Archbp of Jerusalem left for Paris this day. Letter from Propa. for Dr Slater, paid 11/6d May 3 Recd a letter from Mr Buthomier of Eton. Mr Grattan's Motion for Emancipation lost by a majority of 2. May 4 Sent the Times, with the Debates, to Mr Gradwell; mentioned the salvo meo Ordini in consecration; Bp Milner. Let Mr Dobson know Sir H Lawrence's address.

403 404

405

He spoke for the Irish Catholics in Parliament; see Ward 2, pp. 253-4. At this stage the wording of the Oath was still under discussion and despite rumours to the contrary had not been communicated to the Prime Minister; see Ward 2, pp. 251-2. A Privileged Altar: a Mass said at such an altar carried a plenary indulgence for the person for whom Mass was offered; a priest co uld have a personal privilege to the same effect.

MAy 1819

173

May 5

I called on Mr Grattan to thank him , & Ld Nugent to whom I explained spiritual & secular power. 406 I blessed a church bell for a church at New River; Mr Bramston & Mgr Bonavita for St Helena dined with me. Wrote to Mr Buthomier. May 6 Dno L. Gradiere facultas binandi ad revocationem [faculty to binate until revoked]. May 7

Wrote to Mr Gradwell sending copies of Sullivan to Bp Milner for Bp of Milan . . May 8

Revd Ricd . Thompson, came to London from Weldbank. 407 May 9

Confirmation at Poplar. May 10

Dinner at Free Masons for Abbe Voyaux; collected ÂŁ262.10s. May 11

Sent out of Orthodox Bp Milner's letter to C. Butler, with thanks of meeting 5th April & answer, to Mr Gradwell. Letter Packet from Rome, paid 11 /6d, including to Mons Antoine Capellani, Sculpteur Genois, Boston;408 sent June 1, pd 2/2d May 12

Letters from Rome to Goa sent by favour of Messrs Butler. May 14

Wrote to Mr Tuite about Mr Daniel's right to 1200 consols. Mr Hunt went to ColI for Ecclesiastical State; Mr Jones furnishes.

406

407

408

Poynter'S main contribution to the wording of the Oath was the distinction between spiritual and secular authority. Richard Thompson (1772-1841), grand-vicar of the Northern District, built St Gregory's, Weld Bank, Chorley. Antonio Capellano, a Genoese sculptor, working in the United States c.181S-27.

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May 15

Cuthbert Stubbs came for Eccles. State, College,13 yrs old. Recd letter from Mr Gradwell dated 29 April. May 17

Mr Tierney afternoon. Lord Donoughmore's motion, majority of 41 against. 409 May 18

Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell 1st May, with the faculties relative to Baign Nuns at Somerstown.410 Wrote to Mr Gradwell asking dispensation, see 15th Langrenais; account of debates of Lords; ÂŁ5 to Macpherson; decree about Pontifical; to Winstanley on the Lisbon letter. May 20

Recd Mr Irving arrived from Valladolid. Packet from Propa., pd 5/9d. D Gio Rosetti Miss . Ap. di Philadelphia, sent June 1, pd 4/4d. II Padre Gio Luigi di S Anna Miss. Ap. India, Bombay, sent by Messrs Butler May 24. May 21

Wrote to Mr Gradwell for dispensation paupertatis voto [dispensation from vow of poverty] New Hall. Wrote to Mr Hunt about Mr Daniel's balance private property. May 23

Preached at Spanish Place. May 25

Letter from Gradwell 8th May, with a rescript about ordinations extra tempora. Facultates Dno Massot 411 ad 10 Junii 1820. Letter from Rome sent to Dr Slater, paid 5/9d. May 26

I went to Messrs Butler's about the body of a martyr sent from Genoa. Facultates Dno Jacobo Staples ad revocationem [Faculties to Mr James Staples until revoked].

409 4 10 4 11

In the Lords - the same Motion as Grattan's, see May 3 above. French Religious Sisters introduced by Abbe Carron to teach poor children in Somers Town . Pierre Alexis Massot, sacristan and priest at the Spanish chapel. Died 1823.

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175

May 27 Wrote to Lord Liverpoo1.412 Mr Thompson & Mr Irving returned to Lancashire. Mary after crime413 with Peter marries his Brother James; crime known to her Sister, Peter's wife; Mary had a child by James before the marriage in the Prot church, James a Prot, both English; Norris. May 28 Answer from Ld Liverpool. Audited Mr Costigan's accounts. Dno Tierney facultates ad 3 menses [Faculties to Rev. Tierney for 3 months]. June 1 Sent to Ld Sidmouth address to Pr. Regent on Marriages, with a draft of a Bill & letter. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell May 15. Law: Maria with W promise of marriage during life of late husband, now married in Prot church. Man becomes Catholic, brings child to Cath church, now under instruction. Packet from Rome 5/9d: Rev Dr Mareschel Baltimore, sent June 1, 2/2d; Luis da S Anna Carmel Bombay, sent June 2. June 2 Went to Moor Fields on affairs of chapel. Mr Gillow. June 3 Sent to Lords Liverpool & Castlereagh copies of address to Prince Regent & of draft of Bill with letters. Wrote to Mr Thompson & Mr Irving, Lancashire. June 4 Recd a letter from Bp Smith with a copy of a letter from Card Prefect of Propaganda 8 May 1819, giving him absolute powers of the government of Northern District. June 5 Half past 11 to Lord Liverpool, audience on Marriage Act; not this session.

412 41 3

Prime Minister. 'Crime' - technical term in Canon Law for grave sexual sin with a future partner creating an impediment to marriage. Several 'marriage cases' are mentioned in the Diaries.

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June 8 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell 22nd May. Dno Horrabin facultas dispensandi in impediment criminis pro duabus viribus ad 3 menses [To Mr Horrabin permission to dispense from impediment of crimen on two counts] . Recd Letter from Rome paid 3/ 10d: Illmo ac Rmo Dno Ambrosio Mareschel, Archbp Baltimoriensi in America Sept. Sent June 30, pd 2/2d. June 9 Dno Danneville facultas binandi prorogatur ad Jan [Faculties granted to Abbe Danneville to Jan 1820] .

1820

June 10 Lord Grey's debate on Transubstantiation 414 (Corpus Christi day). June 11 Went to Lord Castlereagh with my letter to him on British claims in France. Sent the debate to Mr Gradwell. Extensio facultatum Dno de la Porte ad omnes Externos Gallicos aut latine loquentes et reservatum cum prorogatione facultatum [Extension of faculties to Revd de La Porte to administer to all foreign French and Latin speakers]. June 13 Confirmed at St Patrick's. June 14 Went to Lord Sidmouth, he will present my petltlOn about Catholic Marriages to the Prince Regent, this week. June 15 Called on Comfiers 44 Poulian Street, will attend to our claims. Wrote to Mr Gradwell for dispensation, Norris see tray 27. Spectatis literis obedientibus de Rev Dno Provi[nci]ali et literis testimonibus ab lImo ac Rev Dno Archbp Dubliensi licentiam concedimus Rev Dno Richardo Hayes 415 Missam privatam cele-

414

415

A Bill to abolish the declaration against Transubstantiation as a qualification for office was lost by a majority of 39. Opponents argued from its status as one of the Thirty-Nine Articles. Richard Hayes OFM, brother of Michael Hayes, cf. Diaries, 18 June, 1818.

JUNE 1819

177

brandi in Distr Lond ad 3 menses 15 Junii 1819, G. Ep Hal. 416 Vic Ap . Concedo Dno Gulmo Fitzpatrick de Dublin licentiam Missam celebrandi ad mensem [Having examined his papers from his Provincial and his credentials from the Most Reverend Archbishop of Dublin we grant permission to Revd Richard Hayes to say Mass privately in the London District for three months William Bp of Halia Vic Ap. I grant to Mr William Fitzpatrick from Dublin permission to celebrate Mass for a month] . June 16 Dined with Mr Norris. Went to Mr Kiernan to have a form of a will for Mr Daniel, he sent it. Called on Mr Greenway. Saw Mr Clark who wishe~ not to have Confession yet. June 17 Called on Mr Bailey at the Commission; he could not find the legalisation of Francfort's signature to Bishop J Talbot's monies in France. 417 June 18 Went to Greenwich with Marquise & Marquis of San Pietro, nephew & niece of Card de Gregorio, in company with Sir J & Lady Hippisley. June 19 I attest some papers relating to Phil Horner's cause at Rome, on the testimony of Revd John Sleath, head master of St Paul 's School. June 20 Confirmation at Mr Costigan's, Redriffe. 41 8 Gave full faculties with leave to binate to Mr Travers till Mr Costigan's return. Gave Mr Travers ÂŁ2 for retribution for 8 Masses for Catherine Stuart. June 21 Went to College. Recd from John Lupton ÂŁ20 Bank Post Bill for Dr Bew, which I forwarded to the Dr this day. Recd a letter from

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4 18

William Poynter had been consecrated Bishop of Halia at Old Hall, 29 May 1803. Bishop James Talbot (1726-90), coadjutor to Bishop Challoner 1759, succeeded as V.A. 1781. Rotherhithe.

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Mr Thompson saying he is sending 3 boys to Lisbon for London District. June 22 Exhibition.419 June 23 Returned to town. Went to audit the accounts of Mr Bramston. Mr Costigan order on Dr for Mr Hodgson, ÂŁ15 . June 24 Miss Trelawney Dinner above 400. Mr Weld called. Facultates Missam celebrandi concessae ad Dno Jacobo Giles, apud Sutton Place. Licentia Missam celebrandi concessa Revd Dno Joanni Salmon ad 3 menses [Faculties to say Mass for a year to Mr James Giles,at Sutton Place. Permission to say Mass to Mr John Salmon for 3 months]. June 25 Went to meet the Trustees of Westminster Chapel. At Mr Jerningham's. June 26 Wrote to Mr Gradwell, sent copies of letters of Dr Troy & Rev Provincial in favour of Hayes, also of my letter to Hayes; with observation of state of Gibraltar, with a copy of Mr Irving's letter in favour of Rev Thos Gough to be V.A. there. Also proposed the case of the necessity of Absolution from censures incurred, when the censures are mostly unknown to Propaganda & Bishops. June 27 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated 10th June. June 28 I answered Mr Barber & Mr Cope of Downside that I cannot receive the young man they offered me for Lisbon. Conceditur Rev Dno Gulm Russell e Dublino facultas administrandi Sacra Parochialia in Distr Lond ad 1 mensem-3 menses. Thos Molloy Missam ad 1 mensem. Dno de la Rue fac binandi ad 2 Spt 1820 [Faculties are granted to Mr William Russell from Dublin to adminis-

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An annual event at St Edmund 's College.

JUNE - JULY

1819

179

ter the parochial sacraments in the London District for 1 to 3 months, to Thomas Molloy Mass for one month, Mr de la Rue to binate Mass until 2 Sept 1820] . June 29 Consecrated Mr Buckley Bishop, Mr Bramston & Mr Carpue420 assisting. Letter from Rome, paid 5/9, for Mgr Ambroise Mareschel de Baltimore; sent 30 June, paid 4/4d. June 30 Dined at Old Women's Dinner, Aged POOr. 421 July 1 Supplied ceremonies to daughter of San Carlos Spanish Ambassador.422 Facultas binandi Dno Barber ad finem Jan 1820. July 2 Went to meet Mr King & Mr Reardon at Mr Hunt's. Gave leave to say Mass to Mr Desmarque nephew of Mr Forrester, provided he subscribe to the formula . Consecrated Chalice & Paten for Lord Shrewsbury. July 3 Mr Hodgson423 seized with an apoplectic fit. I at Brook Green confirmed Camilla Style (Maria) Isabella Style (Teresa) Anna Style (Sophia) Martha Angelo (Maria) Elizabeth Grant (Maria) Gul Wilds. July 4 Confirmation given Somerstown: 77. July 5 Went to Brook Green to see Mr Hodgson. Dined at F ree Masons for Boro' charity school.

420 42 1 422 423

Joseph F rancis Carpue (1766-1 849), a senior priest of the London District. His family were founding members of the first Chelsea Chapel. The Aged Poor Society founded in 1708. Pres um ably she had been baptized in danger of death and without the usual ceremonies. Revd Joseph Hodgson (1756-1 821) had been Poynter's Vicar General fo r many years.

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July 6 Mr Hunt. 424 I told him I would not oppose his going with Dr Slater, but that if he went he had no further connection with the London District. Wrote to Mr King of Havant to send his son to the College; ÂŁ20 with ÂŁ2 pocket money . Recd letter from Mr Gradwell without date (about 14 June). Answd & sent copy of Irish Episcopal Oath; wrote about Profession of Faith;about Dr Slater's Conference; about Retreat of Religious; Gandolphy; Hayes trial sent copy. July 7 Letter from Rome, 5/9. Adm[odumJ Revd Dno D Didaco Leoni de Villefane, Propa Missionaris Arancanorum in Regno Chiliensi, Buenos Ayres; sent it July 12, pd 5/ 3. Facultas binandi ad 8 Jan 1820 Dno Hen Stewart, item Dno Salmon ad finem Jan 1820 [Faculty to Mr Henry Stewart to binate Masses until 8 Jan 1820. Also to Mr Salmon until the end of Jan 1820] . July 9 Abbe Burnavita sailed for St Helena. July 10 Write to Mr Rush at 'Swan with 2 Necks'425 about Relic by the ship Marianne. Mr Bramston & I signed a declaration to Miss Neil. July 12 A letter from Rome for Dno Mareschel Archbp Baltimore, sent Aug 3; 5/9 & 4/4. July 14 I went to St Edmund's with Mr Jones .426 July 16 Returned from St Edmund's having enquired concermng the advantages of admitting lay students. 427 424

425 426 427

Joseph Hunt had entered Douai in 1778. He was at Moor Fields before 1800 and for the rest of his life, overseeing the building of the new chapel. He was blind for six years before his death in 1841. A boarding house and hotel (Chaplin & Horne). Rev . John Jones (1760-1840), of Warwick Street. For a few years there had been a policy for the College to admit only students for the priesthood.

JULY

1819

181

July 17

Letter from Mr Gradwell dated 1 June. I transcribed & sent to Bp Collingridge the part relating to him. I delivered to Mr Barber, 44 Paul Street, the assignment of Mr Southworth's right to the property in France in Bp Talbot's name, & also an office attestation of my being Mr Southworth's Executor. July 18

Sent to Bp Collingridge at Bristol the papers relating to Miss Neil. July 19

I called Messrs Archer, Wilds, Leon, Jones Carpue & Hunt428 about the question of the admission of Lay-Students into the College; adjourned to Friday. I introduced Dr Buckley to Lord Bathurst & Mr Goulburn. An order was sent from the Treasury to the Custom house on the 11 th to deliver the box of relics to me or to my Order unopened. July 20

Dined with Lord Clifford. Sent my nephew William Poynter429 to Sedgley Park. July 21

Worked at home with Mr Kimbell. The meeting took place at Smithfield without me. July 22

Went to see Mr Hodgson at Brook Green. Delivered to young Mr Robinson the power of attorney signed by Mr Daniel & Mr Hodgson the transfer of ÂŁ1881. Reed a packet from Rome, paid 5/9: letter to Dr Conolly New York, sent Aug 3, pd 2/2; & lllmo Monsig Petro Alcantara del Bombay. Detained at Messrs Butler till we learn where this is to be sent. July 26

Isley, Dickinson, Stay, Sanderson sent to Thompson for London District.

428 429

Lisbon by Mr

A committee of senior priests of the District. Son of Dr Poynter's younger brother John and his wife Sarah. He had been baptised in Portsea 24 April, 1807.

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July 27

I went to College. Lay-Students to be admitted as before, tho' not to associate in play time. July 28

I examined the Divines in their treatises de Actibus humanis, peccatoris conscientia [concerning Human Actions, the conscience of a sinner]. They answered very well. Debt of Mr Brennan for Thos to Doway College, £50 due from me to Mr Brennan. NB £73 lOs the salary of Mr Brennan from 5 July 1817, at the College. July 29

I settled with Mr Havard that they should study de Sacramentis, Trinitate & the Scripture.430 July 30

I returned to town . Saw Mr Salmon about his school. Facultates Revd Dno Scott ad revocationem. July 31

Went to Messrs Butler about the remittance of the value of 1000 Roman crowns to Macao . August 2

Mr Rob Walmesley called & pledged himself that the £1000 for Dover & the £500 for Portsea & Gosport shall be paid about Sept or October; enquire whether Revd F Avery is living or dead. Wrote to Abbe Grimouville. Hendred: congregation 220, chapel traced back 522 years, 60 or 70 children for Catechism. Mr Hunt's Father pays £10 a year to Mr Jones or Mr Gliffiths account. August 3

Recd letter from Bp Montblanc [?J, sent to Dr Walsh Waterford. Wrote to Mr Gradwell, Mr Tuite, Fr Plowden at Paris, Mr Griffiths for deeds at Warwick Street, Mr Butler of Paignton [?J , Bp Smith. 431

430 43 1

See note 50. The English branch of the Canonesses of the Holy Sepulchre (or 'Sepulchrines') had fled from Liege in 1794 and eventually settled at New Hall , Essex, where they ran a girls' school.

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1819

183

August 4

I went with Mr Bramston to New Hall. Grant to New Hall, 26 Jan 1819, officia jam aprobata SS. [illegible}, MM Japon. SS Cordis J . for [?]. S. Cord. B.M .V. dom . 2 Julii, ritu dup. 2 class sine Oct[ave}; of the S.H. of Mary they have one approved for the Dioc. of Rouen in consideration that the chapel is blessed in name of S.H. of J&M; to be 1 class & octave, & plen. indulgence Sac. Heart of Mary. August 5

Gave Confirmation at New Hall. August 6

. Renewed faculties to Mr Chapon (Missionary) ad annum. Went to Mr Eastwood's at Stock.

August 7

Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell, with a part of his Memorial & faculties for the reduction of the seminary Masses. Gave Confirmation at Crondon Park, went to Thorndon. 432 August 8

Gave Confirmation at Thorndon. August 9

Went from Thorndon to Pilgrim's Hatch,433 where Mr DiosSantos has built a chapel in his estate. Returned to town. Richard Batchelor, elder Brother of the family Batchelor at West Grinstead, left ÂŁ200 to Mr John Batchelor with the obligation to pay Interest to Priest at West Grinstead for ever,434 for which 20 Masses for Rich Batchelor. August 11

Went to Horsham with Mr Harting. [Red Lion Dorking-crossed out] .

432 433

434

In Essex, the home of the Petre famil y; a mission from 1815. A mission from 18 15; closed in 1836. Rev . Emmanuel Dias- (or Dios-) Santos ( 1765-1834) educated in Lisbon, had joined the Dominicans for a few years and then served in the London District. A mission from the beginning of the Reformation.

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August 12 Opened the Chapel at Horsham. Dined with Mr Hunt priest for Horsham. 435 August 13 Recd of Mr Pollard subscription of Duke of Norfolk, £25 + £25 paid to Mr Hodgson. To order of Mr Honywood £l35, ditto of Sam Rowland £92.5.9, Greg Page £8.7 .7, Mr Clark £10 . Paid to Mr Hodgson Aug 14, £31.12.5 . August 14 The Bp of Quebec called. Roughey was paid by Mr Webster £12 annually, had declared he would not pay more after 1820. August 15 I preached at St George's Fields.436 August 16 The Bp of Quebec called & explained have Canada divided into 5 dioceses, politan. 437 Letter from Propa with a Oath. Mr Hall, 39 Wide St Oxford Haymarket: speak to Mr Kelly or Mr

the object of his journey to 4 suffragans & one metronew copy of the Episcopal Street. Sarah O'Donnell, 2 Morel.

August 18 Mr Clifford called on the Bp of Quebec. I went with Mr Scott to Ld Sidmouth. Attested the signature of Geo Guillonean, Notary Public, relating to Adamson's certificate of burial. August 19 Leave to Mr Larne to tackle the scruples of those who speak to him after confession & before solemnity. Recd of Mr Wm Riley £800 for building of a chapel. Mr Jones gave £44 to be funded for repair funds.

435 436 437

Rev. Joseph Hunt (1765-1841) ordained priest 1792 for the London District. The Belgian Chapel since 1817. The present site of St George's Cathedral, Southwark. ECP 10,000. See note 391 above. The British Government claimed the right to nominate the Bishop of Quebec, though it is doubtful that the power was ever exercised.

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1819

185

August 20 David O'Callaghan leave to say Mass, 3 months. I signed the attestation of having supplied the ceremonies to the daughter of Spanish Ambassador. August 21 I called on Mr Scott of Glasgow, & on Bp of Quebec. Ld Bathurst difficult & displeased that he is made Archbp. Letters from Mr Gradwell 5 Aug with dispatch for Langrenais, up to 3rd part of morning. August 23 Wrote to Mr Grq.dwell. Cox, recommended by Gen Delaney & Capt Raycroft. Father will pay ÂŁ50 pa, ÂŁ3 pocket money . Mr Macpherson has nearly finished Ld Clifford's Masses to the end of this year. August 25 Went to Lord Bathurst who complained of Rome in respect to Quebec. August 26 Facultates Dno Marco Tierney ad revocationem. August 27 Wrote Mr Gradwell, Lord Bathurst complaining against Rome. August 30 Delivered Sir J Hippisley's letter to Dr Slater. Brief for New Holland. Peter Smith Esq, Colonial Office. I delivered to Dr Plunket his Will & Life Insurance which he had entrusted in my hands last year. September 1 Letter from Mr Gradwell Aug 14 with 2 letters for Mr Norris & Mr Law. I wrote to Card Pietro. September 2 I dined with Bp of Quebec, 10 Blanford Street.

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September 3 Mr Langrenais died RIP.438 I went to Westminster to see about Mr Langrenais affairs . Gave Revd Mr Norris the dispensation to be executed by him. September 4 Granted leave for Sister Clare Mary Joseph Sales Duignan to be a novice at New Hall. September 6 I went over to Mr Costigan to examine his premises with Mr Bramston. Santry & Brian for Valladolid, from Mr Bramston. September 7 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell Aug 23 . Wrote to Card Fontana about names of Persons for whom dispensation granted, see copy. September 9 I signed the deed of lease of Lincoln's Inn Fields 439 to Mr Freland: 99 years from Christmas 1818, at ÂŁ81.15 pa. I only pay Land tax. September 10 I saw the Bp of Quebec. Joseph Signay: better news . I wrote to Mr Gradwell again about Ld Bathurst's complaints. Wrote to Mr Kimbell, allowance ÂŁ20 pa to Miss Ayles while in Winchester. Dno Chabot facultas binandi dum in aedibus Dni Langdale Missam obtinuerit. Dno Chourry facultas Missam celebrandi in Diem Land 440 [Permission for Mr Chabot to binate Masses while he is in Mr Langdale 's house. Permission to Mr Chourry to say Mass in Van Diemen 's Land]. Mr Irving & his Brother sail for Spain on their return to Valladolid. I sent power of attorney to Mr Tuite. September 13 Dined with Bp of Quebec. Conceditur Revd Dno Tho Mahey licentia Missam celebrandi ad 3 menses [Permission granted to

438 439

Cha rles Langreney; see note 179 above. The old Sa rdini an Chapel, greatly damaged in the Gordon Riots. I n 1798 it was closed, but re-opened by the chaplains the next yea r. Bishop Douglass to ok over the lease of the chapel and house, which was supported by subscriptions. ECP 10,000 .

440

Van Diemen's Land (Tasmani a).

SEPTEMBER

1819

187

Rev.Thomas Mahey to say Mass for 3 months] . He came recommended for Lady Newburgh . September 14 Bp of Waterford, Dr Walsh, dined with me. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Aug 28 . September 15 Recd a letter from Bp Smith commenting about the Jesuits. Bp of Quebec left London for Paris, & Bp of Waterford. September 17 Recd a letter fro,m the Bp of Quebec at Dover. Wrote to Mr Gradwell about late defence in favour of the Jesuits. September 18 Mr L'Artigues dined with me & will be Bp of Montreal. September 19 Mr J Lee & Mr Bramston, to both about Mr Havard for Westminster. September 20 Sent to Dr Smith the papers relating to Jesuits . September 21 Recd a letter from Rome, Dr Buckley's Decree for Desmondea[?]; of a grant concerning retreats, with a letter from Mr Gradwell. Sent to Dr Buckley Mr Mic Bourke's letter from St Kitts about penal laws in Colonies. September 23 Went with Mr L'Artigue to Colonial Office, & to Commissioner. Called on Abbe Voyaux. Dined at London Tavern, Virginia School dinner ÂŁ84. Revd Piccolomini Spain College. September 24 Mr Wilds called. Wrote to Mr Gradwell. Mr John Lee returned from College reporting the wish of Mr Havard to go to Westminster. Dr Slater sailed for the Cape of the Mauritius with Revd Phil Conolly. Revd Mr Thierry & 4 Priests, 4 preparing for orders, 2 Priests go from Ireland to New South Wales & 2 Priests from Paris to the Mauritius.

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September 25 Mr Scombey, sent to me by Mr White of Winchester,441 called, no dispensation. Wrote to Mr White at Winchester & Mr Staplet. Draw on Mr H for ÂŁ17. 10. Mr Griffiths, Mr Salmon, Crosby, Mrs Lane cannot send her boy to Sedgley. September 27 Mr MacDonnell going to be Superior at Scotch College at Rome came. I invited him to pass a week here. Mr Jones called, had a long conversation about College. Dr Slater sailed on 24th. September 28 I went to Miss Ryan's funeral. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Spt 11 . Recd a packet from Rome, paid 17/3d, containing the Bulls of Dr MacDonnell in the Highlands of Scotland; a letter for Bp Cameron, sent Spt 28 to Edinburgh; a letter Ambrosio Mareschel Archbp Baltimore, sent Oct 6, 4/4. September 29 Dined with Dr Collins, Sir J Doyle Junr,442 Bp Buckley & Mr Carpue. Facultates Dno Chene pro omnibus ad revocationem [General faculties to Abbe Chene until revoked]. October 1 Wrote to Mr GradweIl; besides the 1000 crowns, 1013 more are to be sent to Marchini, of which 513 in account of Dom Mariano Santucci Superior of the College of Sagra familia & 500 on account of Propa. October 4 Wrote to Bp Smith. Mr James MacDonald went from London in his way to Rome. October 6 Revd Father Harrigan, Dominican from Rome who accompanied Mrs Alberry, called on me & gave me a letter from M Piccolomini. Received Mr Plowden's Memorial by Mr Scott.

441

442

Revd Thomas White, ordained Douai 1791 , ministered at Warwick Street, Newport (Isle of Wight) and Winchester, where he died in 1826 (BeUenger, English Priests) . Possibly Sir John Milley Doyle (1781-1856), colonel, later MP for Carlow, 1831-2 (DNB).

OCTOBER

1819

189

October 7 Went to dirge fo r Miss Joanna Clementa Ryan. Send letter from Mr Gradwell Spt 20, with an order from Mr Macpherson on Bp Cameron for £41 7.14s. October 8 Recd a letter from Mr Jones with the Rules of Doway & St Edmund's. Revd Alberra arrived from Rome in aid of health. Called at Wright's & left Mr Macpherson's bill on Bp Cameron. Went to Treasury about Books for Caversuale & to Commissioners, who were then sitting on our claims. Wrote to Mr Gradwell & Card Fontana. October 9 Went to College. Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Sept 23 & a letter from Bp Smith. Forwarded Mr Piccolimini letter to Portsmouth, recd 6th Oct. Mr Birch called on me & explained Dr Milner's conduct. October 12 Returned to town. K Taylor £74.15.7 transport to Griffiths. October 13 Consecrated Chalice & Paten sent by Keating. Carlisle's trials!?]. Revd L Havard appointed to Westminster, Revd J White appointed Pastor of Standon congregation. Packet from Rome, 7/8d: Ambrosio Marechel Archbp Baltimore sent, 4/4d; Revd Thos Carbery, Virginia N America, another for Carbery sent 4 Nov, 4/4d. October 14 Went to meeting for Chapel of Moor Fields. Mr Havard came to Westminster. October 18 Wrote to Card Archbp of Paris to congratulate him.443 Wrote to Mr John Lee to sound him about coming to Castle St;444 to Mr Fletcher. Recd Bp Smith's packet about Jesuits' decree. Gave Ed Fox a letter to Mr Birch, his Father pays £20 pa.

443 444

The new Cardinal Archbishop of Paris was Alexandre-Angelique de TalleyrandPerigord, 1819-2l. Rev. John Lee (1739-1821), of the London District; see entry for April 16, 1821 .

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October 19 Went to Bramston about Bp Smith's letter & Papers for Rome. Dubuisson at Chatham. October 21 Went to Weston Underwood for a little repose. 445 October 22 The Commissioners for Claims on France awarded 38,396 francs Rente perpetuelle on the French Govt for the claims in the name of John Douglass (on this a certificate for 55 p.c. on the Great Book of the public debt of France, viz for 21,118 francs = ÂŁ879.18.4 was delivered to me on the 5th Nov I having signed the Commissioners' books for the same). NB The remaining part of the Rente will be delivered at the conclusion of the work of the Commissioners if the sum in their hands allows it, otherwise a proportion. Nov 9 I signed the award & then gave it to Messrs Wright to be sent to Mr Callaghan Banker at Paris, for him to have my name inscribed in the Great Book by the Commissioners of the Deposit. 446 October 25 Recd letter from Fontana apologising to Ld Bathurst, Oct 2. November 2 Recd letter from Mr Gradwell, Oct 1st. November 3 Returned from Western Underwood . K. Quin of Lower St, Dublin . November 4 Dno Peter O'Loughlin licentia Missam binandi ad 3 menses. November 7 Preached at St George's Fields .

445

The main Catholic presence in Buckinghamshire, home of the Throckmorton family.

446

Ward (3, pp. 133-4) gives somewhat different figures and stre es these payments were for personal claims, not those in the name of the colleges.

NOVEMBER

1819

191

November 8 Meeting of the Chapter. 447 November 9 Went to Commissioners, signed my Award; gave order for the inscription of my name. Went to Brook Green to see Mr Hodgson. November 11 Facultate Dno Gremare448 ad finem 1819. Facultate quoquam celebrandi in Distr Lond Georgio Cronin ad 3 menses [Faculties to Rev. Gremare until the end of 1819. Permission for George Cronin to say Mass anywl;lere in the London District for 3 months]. November 12 I went to Lord Bathurst to explain the conduct of Propaganda relative to appointment of Archbp of Quebec. Wrote to Card Fontana reporting Ld Bathurst's answer, & to Mr Gradwell. Wrote to Ld Arundel sending address for Moor Fields. Wrote to Mrs Webster to go to Lady Hervey. November 13 Sent to Miss Spencer a subt of Dublin & Saints Lives 1 & 11 vols. 449 November 16 Wrote to Mr Tuite to exercise the execution of the Ordonnance of Dir. 1818. Recd a letter from the Grand Aumonier in answer to my congratulatory letter. Facultas dispensandi ab impedimento omnibus Dno Havard [Faculty of general dispensation from impediments to Rev. Havard]. Recd a document to be signed by Mr Mousel & me from Revd Dawes, Christopher Attisops Buildings,New Zealand. November 17 I went to our Commission for France. They told me that for every ÂŁ100 I was entitled to ÂŁ126 & wanted to take Mr Daniels

447 448 449

The Chapter of the secular clergy in England and the admjnistrator of the Common Fund appear to have agreed to share in paying certain expenses. L' Abbe Adrien Gremare, of the diocese of Rouen; he died in 1835. Presumably Butler's Lives of the Saints.

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funded claims. Dirge at Sardinian Chapel for late King of Sardinia. November 20 Went to Hales Place450 with Mr Bramston. Confirmation at Hales Place, 21st Sunday. November 22 St Martin's Church on Martin's Hill St, Deal Rd., font. Recd letter from Mr Griffiths about O'Leary which I answered . Write to O'Leary. November 25 Left Hales Place. Went to Sheerness .45l November 27 Confirmed at Sheerness Catherine Fitzpatrick.

Elveria

Garry,

Mary

Harrington,

November 30 Sent the Bishops' letters to Rome on the Somaglian correspondence. 452 December 3 Wrote to old Mr Coombes 453 on the Somaglian correspondence. Wrote to Mr Bowles & Mr Gradwell sending part of Orthodox. Gand. December 4 Went to Pilgrims Hatch. 454 Revd Em. Dios Santos. December 5 Confirmation at Pilgrims Hatch.

450 45 1 452

453 454

Canterbury, a mission from 1740; ECP 500. A mission from the early 19th century. Cardinal Somag1ia, Secretary of the Holy Office and Bishop of Frascati , had won the support of Bishop Milner on English matters in Rome. He had shown himself uncivil to Bishop Poynter there; cf. entry for 20 Jan. 1815. Rev. William Coombes (1743-1822), ordained at Douai in 1777. Dorset.

DECEMBER

1819

193

December 6 Went to Thorndon. Dined & slept there. December 7 Wrote to Mr Griffiths 455 about ordinations. Sent Mr Hunt ÂŁ25 from Ld Petre. Wrote to Ld Arundel to thank him for Pulpit; wrote to Lady Throckmorton. Facultates ad annum Revd Dno Jacobo Quin, Hiberno e Diocesi Denensi 456 cum licentia Epi Denensis et Archepi Dubliensis in Anglia profecto ad congregationem apud Southend457 celebrandi Missam. G.Hal. Concedo Revd Dno Jacquino licentiam celebrandi Missam in adventu pro una vice [To Revd James Quinn an Irishman from the Diocese of Derry(?) with permission from his Diocese of Derry and from the Archbishop of D~blin, on arrival in England faculties to celebrate Mass for the congregation at Southend. G.Hal. I grant him permission to say Mass on his arrival for one visit]. December 10 Packet from Rome, cost 11 /6, to Revd Dno Bourke, Halifax Nova Scotia, sent Jan 10 10/l0d; Illmo ac Revd Mgr Fra Pietro d'Alcantara da S Antonio del Bombaino, Vicario Apo. da Mogol, Bombay. Sent on Dec 11, paid lOp. December 11 Prorog facultates Dno Joann Fleury apud Maltons Hale, Linton ad finem annum 1820 [Faculties granted to Rev. John Fleury at Maltons Hale, Linton until end of 1820]. Wrote to Abbe Grimouville, sent ÂŁ60. December 13 Mgr Buckley, Mr Bramston, Fryer & Dios Santos met me to deliberate about the choice of a Rector for Lisbon. Revd Edmund Winstanley was considered & chosen. 45 8 Mr Robinson & Son told me I might safely leave my inscription for the Rentes on the Grand Aire at Paris in the hands of a Barrister there, viz Mr

455 456 457 458

Thomas Griffiths was appointed president of St Edmund's in 1818. He later became V.A. of the London District. Probably should read Derensi for Derry . A mission in Hampshire, in the parish of Soberton. Rev. Edmund Winstanley (1772-1852) had studied and taught at the English College, Lisbon; see Michael Sharratt (ed.), Lisbon College Register 1628-1813 (CRS 72, 1991), pp. 224-5.

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Callaghan; that he cannot sell it & that in case of his failure it could not be affected by his cost. December 14 Facultates prorogatae Dno Beaumone ad annum. Granted to Mr Cham berla yne. December 15 Mr Henry Errington died, RIP. December 16 I went to College for ordination. December 17 Examined the ordinandi . Recd news of Mr Costigan having burst a blood vessel. December 18 Revd Mr Watkins 459 from College & gave him faculties ad revocationem to assist Mr Costigan. Ordained by me 17 Dec: Deacon Dan O'Leary, 23 1 Jan 1820; Tonsure & 2 Minors, Wm O'Brien, 27 last March, Nic Newall, 22 last March; Exorcist, Acolyte, Subdeacon ad titulum Missionis Wm O'Brien, Nic Newall, Joan Radford , 25 last Aug, Ric Kelly, 21 last Sept. December 20 Wrote to Mr White & Vaughan to say that the management of the Estate at Winton in hands of Mr Whelan . Dno Foronage 10 Park St celebrandi Missam predicandi ad finem 1820 [Permission to Revd Foronage, 10 Park St., to say Mass and preach until end of 1820]. Relnitted to J B Marchini Bills on Canton by Messrs Butler to order of J .B Marchini, 30 days sight, Roman crowns 1500 at 46 & quarter = £324.5.6 = 1365 dollars at 49. 513 Rom cr = £110.18.4 = 467 dollars .Total £435.2s. Roman crowns 1000 from Dnus Marianus Santucci Supr. Col. Sinensis Neapoli 500, ditto 500 from Sacra Congreg. de Prop. Fide. December 22 Wrote to Mr Tuite, & to Bp Smith sending Mr Gradwell's letter. I answd to Commissioners & delivered a note of the rents D & S

459

See note 396.

DECEMBER

o Congr.

1819

195

Sciot460

Facultates Dno ad finem 1820. Revd Mr Sciot assured me that he had heard Messrs Marigniez & Desforges say to him at different times that the Bp of Blois had granted them the faculties which I had refused them, in consequence of their refusing to sign my formula, & that in the actual circumstances he is the only lawful Bp from whom they ought to receive their faculties. Migoret46l hears confessions. W .P .

December 23 Wrote to Mgr Marchini at Macao . Sent to Messrs Butler two copies of my letter. I went accompanied by Mr. Archer, to the Bp of Blois, see account of the interview. 462 Prorogantur facultates Dno Kiel ad finem 1820. Mr. McCarthy, born at Durham from Chatham, Father pays ÂŁ15pa; send first to Sedgley. Sent my letter relative to the above (monies) with two bills of Mr Theo Metcalf at Canton for 1365 & 467 hard Spanish dollars. December 27 Recd a letter from Mr Gradwell dated Dec. 9. Signed Rev Edmund Winstanley's appointment as President of Lisbon College. Facultates Missionariae Dno Travers ad fmem annum 1820 [Faculties of a missionary priest to Mr Travers until the end of 1820] .

December 28 Tottenham: 18 children go to school, 20 go regularly to Mass Sunday & holidays. Francis Flood aet 14, see for Lisbon. Dispensation in 2nd dgr Catherine Power. Prorogatur facultates Dno Bernard, Witham Place. 463 Facultates Missionariae prorogantur Dno Danneville ad finem 1820 [Faculties to Rev. Bernard, Witham Place. Missionary faculties to Rev. Danneville until end of 1820). Sent Mr Winstanley's appointment, accompanied by a letter.

460 461 462 463

Bernard Amedee Sciot (1746-1822), a Carmelite priest. L' Abbe Charles Migoret, of the Diocese of Le Mans. AA W /SEC, Series 2/8. Essex.

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December 31 Wrote to Mr Gradwell, sent an account of Bp of Blois. Sent Lingard's history & other books to Keating to be sent to Rome, viz Butler's Memoirs, Milner's End of Controversy, Stark, Fletcher, Orthodox. 464 Carolo Jos Horden prorogatur facultas ad finem 1820 licentia binandi Missam [Faculties to Charles Joseph Horden until the end of 1820 with permission to binate Masses]. [Addresses noted at end of 1819.}

Revd Mr Norris, 33 Little Russel St; Revd B. Barber, 4 Hale St, Poplar; Revd Mr Danneville, 4 Cottage Place, Chelmsford; Revd J Buckley, 11 Gr Quebec St, New Road; Lorrimer, 39 Gloucester St; Russel, 7 Windmill St, Tottenham Ct Rd; Langrenais, 5 Carey St, Vincent Sq; Mrs Constable, 64 Welbeck St; Longue, 39 Gloucester St; Purbattel, 19 Lower Thornhaugh St.

[Two entries for January 1820 appear here.} January 7 Journey £2 8, Given to Mr Wates £1 , Given to John Reeke £1, Mr Doyle P.P. £2, Mrs Aylett £1, Poor handout £1 , coach £12 . January 9 Jos Sidden ordained Priest. 465 Recd letter from Mr Gradwell dated 20 Dec.

464

465

Among the books referred to are Charles Butler, Historical Memoirs , 2 vols. (1819), Bp Milner's The End of Religious Controversy (1801), and the Orthodox Journal . Rev. John Fletcher (1766-1845), a priest of the London Dis rict, published some volumes of sermons and, later, The Catholic's Prayer-Book (1830). Rev. Joseph Sidden (1796-1 875), ordained at St Edmund's, later served in the Diocese of Southwark.

JANUARY

1821

197

1821 January 1 At Trinidad for Priest, salary 425 dollars. January 2 Went to Lord Bathurst about instructions relative to the promotion of bishops and of letters for the seminary at Nicolet. I asked the Fondrays to go to Trinidad, no. Asked Mr Briere to go to Trinidad, no. Wrote to Mr Gradwell & Card Fontana about Hayti . January 3 Wrote to Bp of Quebec & Bp Buckley. January 5 Wrote to Mr Carroll to come over to Mr Daniel. January 8 I signed another deed relating to the stock belonging to the Stourtons in my name & in theirs. See State book. January 9 Letter from Rome, pd 3s 9p. Sent by ship letter office, pd lOp. January 12 Wrote to Mr Daniel to inform him that Hebert of the Diocese of Coutances 466 had incurred suspension & excommunication for having said Mass and heard confessions. Prorogata facultas binandi apud Virginia St ad finem Julii 1821 [Faculties renewed for binating Mass at Virginia St until the end of July 1821]. January 15 I went to Mr Costigan's. I sent to Mr Copping of Devonshire Place a parcel to Mr Callaghan: 1. copy of Protest 10 Jan 1819, 2. a letter to Quelen, 3. letter to Card Archb, 4. sketch of an ordonnance for repeal of 1815.

466

There were three priests of this name from the Diocese of Contances .

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January 16 Letter from Mr Dannery, Joburgh near Cherbourgh, & answered . January 18 Sent over to Callaghan for Talbot's Inscription. January 19 Wrote to Carroll to remain & to Gradwell about Abbe Feuillet's powers from Rome. January 22 I signed the deeds for the new purchase in Poplar. January 23 Wrote to Mr Gradwell and sent him Milner's notes. January 31 Mrs Wortley Montague who had been an excellent nun at the U rsulines for near 60 years died in that convent last week; her father left her when a child at that convent while on his travels. On his return he found her intention not only to be a Catholic but also a nun . He gave his consent. He died about 70 years old. February 2 Revd Thos Stewart facultas binandi ad finem Julii [Faculties to Revd T Stewart to binate to the end of July]. February 3 Letter from Mr Gradwell with dispensation for Ricketts dated 18 Jan. Wrote to Abbe Kirgelin 467 at Mr Selby's not to say Mass on account of infirmities till further permission from me. February 4 Preached at Spanish Chapel. February 5 Answered Lady Tichborne 468 that I would give ÂŁ12 for Little at Sedgely.

467 468

Perhaps J. C. de Kerquellen , a French Capuchin, who died in 1822. Presumably Harriette-Felicite, wife of Sir James Tichborne (1784-1862) the 10th baronet. She died in 1868.

FEBRUARY

1821

199

February 7 Attested Mr Dobson's signature to testimony of baptism. St Patrick's audit. Recd letters from Bp Buckley, one for Card Fontana, & for Mr Hurst. Sent to Rome letter from Capuchins of Madras. Sent to Card Fontana Bp Buckley's letter, 5s.9p. February 9 Wrote to A Rodriquez, Secretary to Cath. Society, care of Martin James Clerk in the Military Board Office, Madras. February 12 Hodgson sent to ColI. His father pays £10 pa. Dno Horrabin facultas dispensandi super impedimenta criminis et simul cogn spiritualis [Faculty to Mr Horrabin to dispense from impediments of crimen and spiritual relationship]. February 19 Returned to town. February 20 Delivered to Commission legalised receipts of Transfer for the sums seized of Montigny for Doway ColI & Gibson .469 Delivered to Mr Christopher for nuns at Lanherne. 47o Mrs Bailey's bond East India for £100 & £4 interest. February 23 I signed the conveyance of the lease of the old chapel of Moor F ields. February 27 Letter from Mr Gradwell with one for Archbp Marechal of Baltimore. Lord Nugent for English.471 Mr Plunkett's debate about the Cath question carried by a majority; to go into a Committee on the laws .472

469 470 471

472

M. Grandjean de Montigny had taken the Douay rentes for some years after its closure; see Ward 3, Appendix M. The English Carmelites from Antwerp had settled at Lanherne in Cornwall. On February 28 Lord Nugent introduced in the Commons a petition from the English Catholics for emancipation. A separate petition from the Irish was introduced at the same time (Ward 3, pp. 59-63). The Hon. William Plunkett's Bill for Emancipation. See G.I.T.Machin, The Catholic Question in English Politics, 1820-1830 (Oxford 1964), pp. 24,ff.

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March 1 Answer from Dr Curtis on practice as held baptising sub conditione [conditionally] those who have been baptised by a Prot Minister. Consecrated a chalice for Lady Newburgh.473

March 2 House of Commons went into Committee on Mr Plunkett's resolutions. Bill to be formed by Mr Plunkett, Ld Castlereagh, Messrs Grant, Turney, Wilberforce, Sir J Newport, Sir H Parnell & Dr Phillimore. 474

March 4 Dined at Mr In Wright's with Ld Donoughmore,475 Ld Hutchinson & Mr Jerningham & Mr Blake. I spoke against Act of Supremacy.

March 5 The Duke of Norfolk & Mr Blake called on me & desired me to go with them to Mr Plunkett in preparing the Bill. I explained to them on the oath of supremacy & read to them a paper which I had drawn up to explain the terms ecclesiastical & spiritual & to shew the distinction between spiritual & Imperial power.

March 6 I recd from Mr Gradwell a letter from Card Fontana about the Ionian Islands. I sent to Mr Plunkett the original which I had read to them. I resigned Revd W.Hunt for ever to Bp Buckley, wrote to that effect to Bp Buckley, Mr Hunt left London to go by the mail to Falmouth by Picket to West Indies.476

473

474 475

476

Lady Newburgh was Margaret Radcylffe-Livingstone-Eyre, 1800-1889, an 'archetype of the 19th century charitable Catholic lady' and principal patron of the Chelsea chapel (New DNB). Probably Joseph Phillimore (1775-1855), distinguished lawyer and M.P., advocate of Catholic emancipation (DNB) . Presumably Richard Hely-Hutchinson, first earl of Donoughmore (1756-1825), formerly an MP in the Irish Parliament; supporter of Catholic emancipation. The other Lord Hutchinson mentioned was probably his brother John, Baron Hutchjnson, who succeeded as earl in 1825 (DNB). Rev. William Hunt (1803-1889), ordained in 1820 at St Edmund's, appears to have served later in the Westrllinster Archdiocese.

MARCH

1821

201

March 7 I went to Mr Bramston & made amendment on the explanatory clause of the Bill with notes on the amendment which I left at Mr Plunkett's. I recd a letter from the Duke of Norfolk with Mr Plunkett's answer that my amendment could not be adopted. I answered the Duke, and by his agreement was to meet him tomorrow at half past 12. Bill read 1st time. March 8 I called on the Duke at 12.30 with Mr Bramston. I gave the Duke a copy of my notes to Mr Plunkett. We discussed the words of the explanatory clause & the preamble in the explanatory clause. I wr<?te to Mr Gradwell. March 9 I went to Hammersmith to see the Dean .477 March 10 Recd letters from Bp Smith & Bp Collingridge. The Duke of Norfolk and Mr Blake called on me. I answered Bp Smith. Messrs Jerningham & Silvertop called. March 11 I wrote to the Duke of Norfolk. Ld Donoughmore called. Mr Blake called and gave me Mr Plunkett's correction in the explanatory clause. March 12 I went to Mr Bramston. Prepared a case for Mr Blake to propose to Mr Plunkett, with a correction in the preamble of the Bill. I wrote the case and a letter to Mr Blake. Handley & Lister solicitors for Mrs Abbott 6 Grays Inn Square. In Bell & Thos Hendley Trustees. March 13 I wrote to Dr Smith and to Gradwell, sent two Bills. I consecrated the chalice lent to Mr Amhurst. March 14 Phillimore to amend the Marriage Act. Wrote to Dr Collingridge. Sent two Bills. 4 77

See entries for April 11 and 16.

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March 15 Bp Collingridge came to town. To Propaganda announcing death of Dr Burke Epi Sionnensis at Halifax, 29 Nov 1820, and the renunciation of the appointment of Dr Maguire who had been appointed Bp of Inconica & Coadj of Dr Burke. March 16 2nd reading of Mr Plunkett's Bill. I went with Bp Collingridge to Mr Blake & then to Duke of Norfolk. March 17 I sent to Ld Bathurst a memorial for the Catholics of the Ionian Isles with a copy of Card Fontana's letter to me recd 6th of this month. Granted Mr Shaw leave to commence Easter from 1 April. March 19 Messrs Bramston, Archer, Wilds, Hunt, Broderick, Fryer, Carpue, Norris, Greenway, with Bp Collingridge, met me. Committee on Plunkett's Bill recommitted. An answer from Ld Bathurst to Ionian petition, viz that he will see me after Sir Th Maitland has returned home. 478 March 20 I went to Commission & to Ld Bathurst's about Bp of Quebec. March 21 A letter from Lingard, answered him. Wrote to Dr Coppinger479 about H Thomas Wm Beville in orders or married . March 23 Plunkett's Bill recommitted, to be discussed on Monday next. The Duke of Norfolk, the Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Arundel & Ld Petre expected third reading to take in new oath.48o See Bp Milner's Pamphlets. 478

Presumably Sir Thomas Maitland ( 1759-1 824), the capable but rather despotic High Coll11Jlissioner of the Ionian Islands and C.-in-C. the Mediterranean 1815-

479

William Coppinger, Bishop of Cloyne and Ross in Ireland 1791-1830. An oath of allegiance to the king approved by all the V.As except Milner, who later the same year suggested one approved by the Irish bishops. The various forms of the oaths contained a denial of the papal deposing power. Ward 2, pp. 358-62, gives the texts, including that of the oath finally approved in 1829.

24 (DNB). 480

MARCH - APRIL

1821

203

March 25 I wrote a Pastoral on the Oath. March 26 Mr Plunkett's Bill discussed, new Oath of Supremacy admitted; progress. March 27 Bill: Parliament open to Catholics, other benefits. I sent to Bp Smith my Pastoral & documents to be signed by him & Scotch Bishops. Freehold premises at Wapping for school for 500. March 28 I went to Ld Castlereagh with amendments made in committee. I wrote to Mr Gradwell sending copies of new oath with observations & begging judgement of Propa. March 29 I attended Dirge at Somerstown. Made a discourse on Abbe Carron. April 1 Preached at Spanish Place on Associated Charities. 48 1 April 2 3rd reading of Bill in House of Commons. Majority in favour 19. Letter from Bp Smith approving of Pastoral. April 3 I sent declarations to the Board, Stone Buildings; reed copy of resolutions from Mr Jerningham, answered requiring exchange in the post. Packet from Rome, ÂŁ1.3s, missionary in Macao & Bp Buckley. Sent, 12s 8p April 4 Answer the D will not consent to any change.482

48 1 482

The Society and The Benevolent Society merged in 1812 into the Associated Charities. 'D ' is probably Wellington, an opponent of emancipation.

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April 5 Go to Merle & Son for payment of shares of Lancaster Canal. April 10 Answered Mr Gradwell. Wrote about Hayti, Gandolphy, Stonyhurst, Emancipation. 483 Sent Bonelli a baptismal certificate about Alexander. Consecravi cali cern & patenam [1 consecrated a chalice and paten]; Newburgh . April 11 Revd J Lee of Hammersmith died RIP . Letter from Mgr Marchini Canton China acknowledging receipt of money sent by Bp Buckley. Dambrine natus of Arras sent to Col, ÂŁ20 a yr pocket money. April 12 I read my paper about civil & ecclesiastical to Sir J.H . Letter from Archb Coadjutor of Paris about Seminary. Wrote to Card Fontana about China. April 16 Went to Hammersmith to bury the Ven . Dean Revd John Lee. Discussion on 2nd reading of Bill. April 17 Discussion continued; Bill rejected by a majority of 39 .484 April 18 Went to ColI to consecrate Holy Oils. April 19 Returned. April 20 Wrote to Mr Gradwell with paper on Debate of 17th. Wrote to Mr Harting allowing him to put my name to a petition for a piece of ground in Brook Green.

483 484

The matters uppermost in Dr Poynter's mind . In the House of Lords where a strong anti-Catholjc majority continued to reject moves for emancipation until 1829, despite pro-Catholic majorities in the Commons.

APRIL - MAy 1821

205

April 21 Received a parcel from Mr Gradwell by Mr Clofte for C Butler & myself. The Abbe Duc de Melfort signed the formula, on the testimony of Revd M Devereux. I granted him to say Mass for 3 months, l3 Earl St, Finsbury Sq. April 22 Preached at St George's Fields. April 25 I went to Poplar. April 27 I signed an attestation of T.H.Somers Cock's signature to declaration of the servants of Mr Cranford, who is in Rome. April 28 Agreed to allow £10 to Mr Sogg of Reading for teaching a boy. Paid it to Mr Bowland for Mr Sogg. April 30 Went to Hammersmith for executorship of Mr Lee. Recd a bill on Pole, £140, sent to Wright's for Griffiths. May 1 Sent to W . White at Hinton deeds for conveyance of burial ground to Newnam. Luke Bourke l3 , College; Mr Bourke £25 pa. Thos West 11 or 12, for 3 years, connected with Sone's family,485 Sedgely Park for 3 years, agreed May 4, but not to pay clothing when he quits the school. May 2 Packet from Rome, 5s 9p. Mgr Plessis Quebec, Mgr Salvatti Vic Ap China. Sent to care of Mgr Marchini, Macao. May 4 Revd Dan MacDonnell sent to Jersey, given him £25. Joseph Robson at Sedgley Park 17, London baptised by Delaney. Mrs Cauler 53 Cheap Side will pay £25 or £27 pa. 485

John Sone, a miller of Bedhampton, Havant, had told William Poynter that he intended to leave in his will £10,000 for the building of St Edmund 's; cf. Introduction, p. 5.

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POYNTER DIARIES

May 5 I went to Cale Hi1l486 to settle about Mr Percy. May 7 I returned from Cale Hill. May 8 Letter from Bp of Quebec with letter to Paris. Sent, Is IIp May 9 Sir H Enfield pays £20pa for Reading. Bugden born in London, about 12, Parents pay £25 pa, clothes & extra expenses. Speak to C.Butler. May 10 Mr Woods informed me May 2 that Mr Cornthwaite 487 lent £900 to Lord Carroll, that Ld Carroll's debts were to be paid from the estate of Mrs Dudley lately deceased, that Mr Humphreys of 11 Serle St is the attorney, also that Mr White of Liverpool has £900 of Ld Carroll's money. Mr Willock, Golden Square, paid the dividend 3s 4p 16 years ago. May 14 I called on Mr Goulborn. He has sent a letter to Quebec about Mgr Lartigue. I sent an order to John Page to lease the house at Harting. May 16 I proved the will of Revd J Lee of Hammersmith under £1000. I went to Dr Phillimore and gave him the offer of a Bill for Catholic Marriages. May 17 Buifron, born in London, of French parents called. He has been 12 yrs at Stonyhurst, gone to Abbe Morel. He has taken the simple vows at Stonyhurst, from which he was released by the Superior before he left. Revd Dno Horrabin facultas dispensandi

486 487

In Kent; a mission from 1750; ECP 500. Richard Cornthwaite, missioner at Brockbampton, who sent William Poynter to Douai. He was sent to Harvington Hall, Worcs. , where he registered the chapel in l796 and where he died in 1803.

MAy -

JUNE

1821

207

in impedimento omnis intra 3 menses [General faculty granted to Revd Mr Horrabin to dispense from impediments for 3 months]. May 18 Messrs King, Reardon & Hunt called, declined advancing anything for Moor Fields. May 20 Agreed to send M Ring of Stratford to Sedgley Park. Parents paying ÂŁ10 pa. May 24 Mr G . Thompson, 3 Little Britain, to pay me ÂŁ50 for Mr John McDonnell. Wrote to Mr Gradwell. Mr Callaghan, Paris, about claims. May 29 A letter from Propaganda about Irish Missionaries to Malabar. May 30 I went to Shefford. 488 May 31 Gave Confirmation at Shefford. June 1 Sent care of Mr Roath a Box for Card Consalvi. June 4 My Brother Mr James Poynter died at Stanmore 57. 489 June 6 Audit of Barnard's accounts with Mr Fryer. Wrote to Archbp Marechal of Baltimore & to Mr Gradwell. June 7 Mr Bramston elected to Dean. My Brother James Poynter buried.

488 489

The Catholic mission in Bedfordshire from 1728; ECP 500. William Poynter's elder brother. He married Susanna Watts in Brockhampton. He managed the College farms during William's presidency at St Edmund's.

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June 10 Confirmed at Virginia St. June 11 Mr Marsh called from Paris. Sent to Dr Curtis a copy of the petition from Paramasibo .49o June 13 Mr Gomez from Trinidad called-he arrived with Governor Woodford-Royal Hotel, St James St, No 5 Cleveland Row. June 14 I married in Spanish chapel Charles Neville with Lady Georgina Bingham. June 26 Charge to Seminary for Carroll ÂŁl3 lOs . June 29 FacuItates Missionariae Revd Dno Carroll in Insulis Jersia et Guersia ad annum [Missionary faculties to Rev. Carroll for a year in the Islands of Jersey & Guernsey]. July 9 Prorogantur facuItates binandi apud Virginia St ad finem Jan 1822. To Gradwell about Mareschal's Chapter. July 10 John Ring sent to Sedgley Park for a year, l3 in April, born in London. Parents from Ireland settled in Stratford. Dno de Melford licentia M. celebrandi ad finem Julii 1822. Tillock's Philosophical Magazine for Jul 1820. Reflections on Noah's flood & attempts made at Oxford to reconcile it with the actual appearances of the Globe. July 12 I agreed to pay ÂŁ20 for Mrs Ellen Ayles at Manchester after her sister leaves. Messrs Alberry & Hicks went to Havant for 490

Paramaribo was in Dutch Guiana (modern Surinam); what the petition was about is not clear.

JULY

1821

209

health.491

FacuItates Miss. Revd Dno Molie ad finem anni [Missionary faculties to Rev. Molie to the end of the year] . Letter from Rome for Archbp Mareschal. Letter to Rome for Mr Gradwell. Pd ÂŁ1.11s. July 14 Consecravi calicem & patenam pro sacerdote apud Norwich [/ consecrated a chalice and paten for a priest at Norwich]. Granted leave to Mr Riley to act as Sacristan at Warwick St. Henry Stephen Philipps, 14 Mount St, White Chapel Road . July 16 Wrote to Mr W}:lite at Portsmouth to become my agent for the House in Warblington Street. Letter from Archbp Mareschal forwarded for D to Rome. 8s 7p. July 21 Licentia M . celebrandi Revd Dno Armstrong M . celebrandi in Distr Lond ad 6 menses [Licence to Rev. Armstrong to celebrate Mass in the London District for 6 months]. July 24 Packet from Rome containing Bulls for Revd Dno Frederick in novum Episc Cincinnati. Sent Aug 1. Revd Jos Hunt gave me two hundred Pounds to go towards a loan of ÂŁ500 to Moor Fields chapel. I am to pay Mr Hunt interest on this during his life, after his death the principal that is left by him to my disposal. (signed Joseph Hunt) July 27 Granted to the Revd Mr Boudet leave to say Mass faculties for French ad revocationem. Authorised Mr Sidden to delegate powers to him occasionally. Revd Thaddeus O'Mealy of the Diocese of Limerick with an exeat and testimonial from Dr Troy & a favourable recommendation from Rev Mr Hanrahan Vicar General of the Diocese was appointed by me to Sheerness; facultates ad annum.

49 1

The mission near the sea at Brockhampton was used by priests to recuperate from poor health.

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July 29 I consecrated a Chalice & Paten for a chapel at Banbury Oxford.

III

July 30 Lent to Moor Fields cheque on Int £500, on £200 Hunt, £200 Archer, £100 Paris. July 31 Went to Brook Green. August 3 Returned from Brook Green. Facultas binandi prorogatur Dno Stewart ad finem Jan 1821 [Faculty to binate granted to Rev. Stewart to end of Jan. 1821 ]. August 4 I went to Cale Hill. August 10 Revd M Percy arrived at Cale Hill. August 16 I returned to town . Packet from Rome, Illmo D H Conwell, sent Aug 31 Philadelphia. Illmo D Jacobo Lartigue, Vic. Gen. Quebecensis Archbpi [VG. of Archbishop of Quebec]. For Bp of Quebec sent to Rome, viz Consalvi, L' Abbe L' Ame Superieur de la Maison de St Louis, Mr Gradwell, Card Fontana. I sent awards to Callaghan for Paris Rentes, with particulars. August 18 An exeat of translation of Sebastian de Lac;on born in London to the jurisdiction of the Archbp of Paris for orders etc. August 19 I preached at Moor Fields. I consecrated a small Chalice & Paten given by Mr Rawe for New South Wales. August 22 I called on Ld Bathurst about Quebec. He is satisfied about Ionian Isles. He will write to me. I call [on] Quebec; M P Beaulieu, Rue St Benoit Paris.

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211

August 27 Packet from Rome, pd 5s 9p. Letter to New York forwarded , pd 2s 2p. August 28 I recd a letter from Fran Jos de Ridder, Messrs Van Morel & Van Neil au Rotterdam. August 29 I went to Commission, they will liquidate the claim if we (Bps M.S. & self)492 declare that we will not educate in France. I sent a declaration to be signed by Bp Milner. August 30 I went to M Goulburn;493 his wife to speak to Ld Bathurst about Ionian Isles . September 4 Letter from Mr Gradwell with others to Messrs Archer & Fletcher. September 7 Recd back from Dr Milner the declaration about Doway money, sent the same to Dr Smith. Sent Mr Gradwell's letters to Messrs Archer and Fletcher. September 10 Large packet from China with large letter for Card Fontana sent by Mr de la Porte to Abbe Javeret at Paris. September 12 Brook Green. September 14 Returned for dinner.

492 493

Bishops Milner, Smith and Poynter. See Ward 3, pp. 137-8, for their declaration . Presumably Henry Goulburne (1784-1856) Under-Secretary for War and the Colonies, 1812-21.

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September 24494 British Empire 1821 Population of Great Britain Ireland North America W. Ind Colonies In Africa In Mediterranean

14,000,000 6,500,000 1,500,000 900,000 130,000 150,000

Colonies & Dependencies In Asia East Indies London Russia France Austria Rome

2,040,000 70,000,000 1,220,000 50,000,000 30,000,000 30,000,000 1,200,000

Exports Imports Gross Rev

£51,000,000 £36,000,000 £57,000,000

Navy last war: Seamen at present in merchant service: Value of land property at present: The Roman Empire in its glory:

1000 ships of war 174,000 £1,600,000,000 120,000,000 one half slaves

September 27 Answer from Mr Goulburn about Ionian Islands. October 2 Letter to Card Fontana about Ionian Isles, 1s.11 p October 3 Wrote to Dr Conwell, Philadelphia. Sent to Ch Butler my answer about Slindon. 495

494 495

An interesting list of statistics. No reason is given for recording them, nor the source. The old Catholic mission in Sussex, dating from Reformation times.

OCTOBER

1821

213

October 4 Abbe Voyaux called with Mr Ash. I called on Ld Sidmouth to say that for good reasons I was going to propose Mr B496 for Coadj & mentioned it to his Lordship to know that this person is agreeable to His Majesty's Government. He said very agreeable & I might say that in my proposal to R. I wrote to Ricd Davis at Nantes & sent 2 certificates. I wrote to Revd Philip Conolly New South Wales with a Box, chalice, vestments & books. October 7 Recd by Father Jos Harrigan OSB the 3 diplomas of Doctorship for Messrs Lingard,497 Archer & Fletcher. October 8 Moor Fields Chapel 498 Length of nave to circular wall 125 feet 38 Breadth Aisles length 98 Aisles breadth 12 Height of nav 52 33 Height of aisles Whole length 125 Whole breadth 50 Height

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October 9 Packet from Rome, Illmo ac Revd Dno Ludovico Guillelmo Dubourgh, Neo-Aureliensi Epo in America Sep . [to the Most Rev. Ludovic William Dubourgh Bp of New Orleans, North America]. 5s 9p & 2s 12p [sic]. October 10 I went to Brook Green . Letter from Mr Gradwell. Letter from Superior of Cong of St Joseph, 16 Rue Ste Marie Paris, about sending some Sisters to the Hospital of St M , Sierra Leon. October 12 Returned to town. Obtained leave to have vestments for Mr Nichols from Rome duty free at Dover. 496 497 498

Mr James Yorke Bramston; see Introduction , p. 6. Pius VII awarded him a triple doctorate in Divinity, Canon Law and Civil Law. When completed, the largest chapel in the London District. A mission from 1710' ECP 30,000. ' ... a large Classical church ... sponsored by laymen, (it) marked a turning point in the size and aspirations of Catholic churches' (Evinson, p. 29).

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October 13 Obtained leave to send Mr Rawes[ ?j chalice & Vestments to New South Wales. October 14 Miss Harriet Learsley, 123 High Holborn, recd into the church at Paris by Abbe MartIn aumonier [chaplain] des Dames du refuge St Michel Paris. October 15 Wrote to Mrs Bishop at Paris to save Mr Gradwell's vestments. Answered the Superior of St Joseph's. October 16 Letter from J . Elliott 22 Southville Wandsworth Rd, concerning the marriage of James Carleton & Frances Hospital Dublin, sent to Dr Troy. Answer recd negative Nov 1. Sent to Mr Elliott Nov 2. Packet from Rome . Letter Al Sig. Martino Suwilli Bombaino. All Illmi Signori Cesare et Fratelli Bertelli, Isole Filippini, Manilla, & a letter to me from Card Fontana on Quebec & Montreal business. October 20 Packet from Rome: Letter for D . Conolly New York. Letter for James Weld Shepton Mallet. Sent Nov 3. October 23 Went to Brook Green. Packet from Rome . Illmo ac Rmo Dno Mareschal. October 25 Returned from Brook Green October 27 Revd John O 'Mara with Messrs Taylor, O' Brien, Young & Irish students & priests from Propa, called & brought a parcel from Mr Gradwell . They produced papers & I gave them leave to say Mass . Revd Mr Taylor brought a chalice for Dr Troy which was stopt at the custom house at Jougn. An order was given by the

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Gen Director of the customs to forward it to Calais where Sir Fontbanque KGA His Majesty's Consul agreed to receive it & forward it. 499 I sent a petition to Lds of Treasury. October 30 Went to Brook Green. November 2 Returned from Brook Green. November 3 Gregor McGregor wrote to Revd Mr Scott Procurator of Jesuits inviting them to s~nd missionaries to Payers near Honduras Bay. November 4 Preached at St George's Fields . November 5 I wrote to Mr Carrol & Mr la Croix at Surrey, the latter is to go to the Col. in Spring; L' Abbe Marial, Vicaire de la Lousc1ame au Couvent des Religieuses New Orleans; Esquire of Mr Robertson. At New Orleans Messrs Barrow & Peter Dabough; Capt Henry Reading 8 Denmark Street. November 6 Letter from D Prendergast, Malabar. He wants Priests and some itinerant Missionaries. He has 130,000 inhabitants in his Vicariate. In Ceylon there are 80,000 inhabitants and only 14 Portuguese priests. I sent it to Rome . November 9 Mr Radford came to East Lane. 50o Mr Costigan appointed to Margate. Mr Anson 50 1 retires on account of infirmity.

499

500 501

John de Grenier Fonblanque (1767-1865), served in the Army of Occupation in France after 1815; he was late r called to the bar and wrote important legal treatises (New DNB). Bermondsey, a mission from 1773; ECP 9000. Rev. Joseph Anson (1753-1827) of the London District.

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November 13 The Administrators of the Old Fund 502 allow Mr Anson £25 pa; also the administrators of the new fund allow the Bishops £25. Prorogantur facultates Revd Dno Gremare ad finem anni 1822 [Faculties to Rev. Gremare to the end of 1822]. November 15 Wrote to Archbp Mareschal of Baltimore at Paris responsible for £200. November 16 Answered Mgr d' Astros, Bayonne. November 18 Preached at Redriffe. Sent my answer by Dr Curtis to Bp Smith, Wigan. November 20 Abbe McCawley called, I did not give him faculties nor leave to say Mass, because he had no papers. Consecrated a gilt chalice & paten for Abbe Morel of Hampstead. November 21 Went to East Lane to audit Mr Costigan's accounts. Consecrated a chalice only for Mr Morel. November 22 Proposed to Mr Rolfe his going to Moor Fields. Wrote to Pope, Consalvi & Fontana, to Archbp of Baltimore forwarded to Dr Mareschal at Paris. November 23 Sent by post to Dr Gradwell my answer to Dr Curtis. Wrote to Mr Crestrick of Leicester 503 time of Mass of I. Lodge. November 24 Went to College with Mr Williams.

502 503

Now the Secular Clergy Common Fund . Fr Charles Benedict Caestryck OP (1762-1 844), founder of the priory of Holy Cross in Leicester in 1817 (Kelly, pp. 244-5).

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1821

217

November 25 Ordained Revd J. Williams of Western District Priest, Revd W. O'Brien ditto , J.Hodstock deacon. November 26 Returned from Col. A meeting of Chapter; at end I received the profession of Faith from Dr Archer & gave him Ring & Cap.504 Licentia Dno Petro M. Larne matrimonio conjugendi Dnum Carolum Michaelem Maraseal et Dnam Helenam McCarthy [Permission for Mr Peter M.Larne to join in matrimony Mr Charles Michael Maraseal and Miss Helen McCarthy]. November 27 Wrote to Dr Troy; orders sent to customs to let his chalice pass duty free. Wrote to Dr Collingridge. November 28 I gave an attestation of Mr Archer's having made the profession of faith on the 26th. Went to house warming at Mr Cherollais new house. November 29 I called on Mr O'Brien about Dominigo. Sent to Mr Gradwell Dr Curtis' letter to me & wrote about Jesuits . Sent to Rome about Domingo. November 30 Mr Hodgson died. Facultates Revd Dno O'Brien ad annum, missionario ad Virginia St [Faculties to Rev. O'Brien, missionary at Virginia St, for a year]. December 2 Preached at Spanish Place. December 3 Went to Mr Bramston. Letter from Baltimore, from Revd James Whitfield.

504

Emblems of a Doctorate.

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December 4 A letter from Mr Gradwell 18 Nov . answered today . Answered Mr Thompson. Packet from Rome. Mrs Weld, Shepton Mallett, A la Mere Superieure au Monastere de la Visitation St Marie, George Town, Columbia Unit. States. Packet from Rome: D. Jos Oct. Plessis, Quebec; Dr Cameron . December 6 All postage for Quebec paid till Dec 6 1821. December 8 Letter from Jersey containing a petition for dispensation between Jn Louis Dupont, son of Mary Letirand, & Ann Angelica Brunet, daughter of Louisa Letirand, both of the parish of CaIigny of the Diocese of Seez in France; signed Godard Rector, + Alexius Epus Sagionis. Facultates Missionares Revd Dno Le Tebore ad revocationem. December 10 Audit of Mr Havard's accounts . I wrote to Mr Carroll, answer to letter about dispensation. Mr Gradwell's vestments recd, brought by Revd John Sheehan. Golden Cross sent to Mr Bachelor Clapton. Letter from Madras. Trevor Lloyd Ashe. Born in Bath. Father & Mother born in Ireland. Was recd into the church 12 months ago by Mr Miher. Facultates Revd Dno Richardo Kelly ad annum Rector at St Patrick's. Mr Rolfe appointed to Moor Fields. Facultates duplicandi apud Weston Dno McGrath ad 1 Julii 1822. December 12 Letter from Dr Slater July 14 1821 with printed papers. Sent Dr Troy's Box with chalice by Mr Sheehan to Dublin. December 13 Recd from Dr Cameron my letter to Dr Curtis with his approbation. December 14 I went to Ld Bathurst about Priests for Trinidad. Ld Bathurst desired me to thank Bp Buckley. Sent my answer to Dr Curtis to his letter of 22 Oct. Also by coach a copy of my 'Epistoia

DECEMBER

1821

219

Apologetica',505 of my suggestions to Mr Plunkett & of the letters of Humphrey & James Weld to me. December 15 Sent to Bp Collingridge the medical letters of Dr Mays of Falmouth & Dr McDonnell of London about Abbe Gresille. I answered Abbe de Conergh, send me a formula signed by you. Answered Mr Kimbell, settle the business about letting the houses in Gosport. December 18 Revd John Fletcher made his profession of faith (not oath of allegiance by answer from Rome) & received the Cap and ring of Doctor. I delivered to him an attestation. I sent Regulations to Moor Fields. Letter from Mr Gradwell Dec 1. Ansd, sending copy of letters from Madras . December 20 Went to Col for ordination with Mr Potier. December 22 Ordained James Holdstock & Daniel Whitwell Priests,506 Wm Carr Deacon. John Hutchison, Geo Rolfe Exorc, Acolytes & subdeacon ad tit Miss. Jn Maguire Exorc & acolyte. December 24 I wrote to Bp Collingridge about Spooner 507 & Coney!. To Bp Smith about Stonyhurst & Kendals. Sent to Mr Gradwell my petition to the Pope for Mr Bramston & I asked to be freed from the Bull 'Speculatores'. 508

505 506 507

508

Expanded and published as The Evidences of Christianity in 1827. Rev. J. Ho1dstock (1795-1881) served later in the Southwark diocese; Rev. D. Whitwell (b.1796) served in the London District but date of death unknown. Rev. Samuel Oliver Spooner (1783-1 839) of the Western DistrictÂˇ abandoned his ministry and faith about 1818, but later reconciled. Dockery calls him 'an extremely eccentric character' (p. 120). The Bull Speculatores Domus Israel had been issued by Pope Alexander VII in 1664. It announced the publication of a definitive Index of Forbidden Books that would be binding on everyone including bishops, with no exceptions.

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December 28 Letters from Propa about Hayti & from Mr Gradwell with letter for Bp of Quebec. Answd Mr Potier & allowed him to dispose of 2 small chalices for benefit of chapel. December 29 A packet from Dr Marechal containing Gazette of Hayti, plan of Cathedral at Baltimore, etc.

JANUARY 1822

221

1822 January 1 Letter to Propaganda about Hayti, 3s lOp . January 2 I wrote to Bp of Bayonne & to Card Fontana sending a Hayti Gazette about Mgr Glory. Prorogantes facultates duo bus Fratribus Ducoudray ad Jan 1823 . Domino Francisco Conceyl (at Mr Nichols, Putney, Surrey) ... renovantur a Domino Archer 509 [Faculties renewed to the two Brothers Ducoudray until Jan 1823. Also to Dom Con.ceyl, at Mr Nichols, Putney, Surrey, by Mr Archer]. January 3 A letter from Bishop Buckley with dimissorials for Mr De Ridder Aug 28 1821. Sent dimissorials to Mr De Ridder. Facultates ad annum Domino Whitall. January 4 A letter from Dr Flaget, Bardston [Bardstown, Kentucky]. I wrote to Mr Spooner to call for proof of Bp Collingridge's consent to his absence & for testimonials. " Borrowed from Bp Poynter six vols of Dues Theology in Boards & 2 vols of D Witham's New Test. " (signed) Whitwell. January 6 Preached at Moor Fields. January 7 Letter from Mr Gradwell Dec 17 1821. Packet from Bp of Quebec. ÂŁ1 4s 2p. Letter from Rome enclosing one from Mgr L' Artigue. 3s 10p. Power to Mr Larne to hear the confessions of a convert and also to settle scruples before Communion, ad 6 Jan 1823. January 8 Revd Dno Havard licentia binandi ad finem 1823. Sent packet from Quebec to Rome. 15s 4p.

509

He had been appointed Vicar General for the French.

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January 10

Sir Ralph Woodford called . I spoke to him about Bp Buckley's salary stopt during absence, he had one to go to Lord Bathurst. Sent by Nuncio Paris petition for dispensation for Dupont from Diocese of Seez, by Jersey . Wrote to Mr Gradwell for Priests for West Indies. January 15

Adam Burton 18 yrs old a convert, recommended by Mr Jarrett for the Church. January 16

Prorogantes facultates Dno Duclos de Windsor ad annum [Faculties renewed for a year to Abbe Duclos at Windsor].

Marriages by chaplain of Regiment of English Army in a country where C. Trent is promulgated; are they valid. 510 January 17

Ask for a dispensation in disparitu cultus, parties married, have issue; woman Catholic, man Quaker cum spe conversionis [with hope of conversion]. January 19

Letter from Archbp Baltimore,ls7p. Forwarded to Rome, 3s lOp. January 22

A packet from Bombay, 2s 4p. Prorogantur facultates Dno Jos Beaumont de Twickenham ad annum. Prorogata Dno Forrester licentia celebrandi ad Jan 1823. Prorogantur facultates Dno L.A.Buffet ad finem Jan 1823. 511 January 29

Letter from Mr Gradwell 12 Jan; answered it sending copy of letter to Fontana about Dublin St ordination . Prorogata Dno Barber licentia ad fin em 1822. Licentia binandi Dno de la Piard ad fin em 1822.

5 10

5 11

The Council of Trent had decreed that to be valid the marriages of Catholics had to take place in church before a Catholic priest and two witnesses; this did nol apply in England where the Council's decrees had not been promulgated. The annual renewal of faculties to celebrate Mass, preach and hear confessions in the London District.

JANUARY - FEBRUARY

1822

223

January 31 Rev Thomas Walsh Augustinian Friar from Rome called. Wrote to Mr Gradwell, with copy of Bp Smith's answer about letter relating to Dublin St ordination. February 1 Facultates Revd Dno Fr Muth aDorn. 4 Quadrag. 512 concedantur pro Germanis & Italiis et pro uxoribus et filiis Germanorum & Italiorum [Faculties are granted to Revd Abbe Muth from the 4th Sunday of Lent for the Germans and Italians and the wives and children of the Germans and Italians]. . February 6 Wrote to Bp of Quebec, Bp Buckley, Bp L 'Artigues, Bp Conwell.

February 9 I answered Bp Prendagast of Malabar & Father Lewigi ,513 Carmelite, V.Gen Bombay sending the Books he ordered which cost £15; he sent me £10, due by him to me £5 . February 11 Longhoran for College after a year, parents or Mr Longhoran paying £20 p. a. for 4 yrs. Thos Bowenen for ColI. Parents find clothes and pocket money. February 12 I went to Brook Green. I called on Mackenzie about French claims. I signed a procuration relative to 3 codicils of Lady Mary Eyre. February 15 Sent Bp Milner's Pastoral with a note to Mr Gradwell. February 18 Returned from Brook Green. February 20 I wrote to Mr Salmon at Brompton 514 to go to Sheerness, to examine O'Mealy, giving Mr Salmon powers of Grand Vicar with 512 513 514

The 4th Sunday of Lent. But see entry for March 18 where Lavigne is the name given. Brompton and Chatham, a mission in Kent.

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respect to O'Mealy. Facultates binandi Dno Salmon ad finem annum. February 21 I attested Abbe Chene's signature to attestation of an extract of Baptismal register. February 25 J . De la Croix & J Fitzpatrick, now John Daniel arrived from Jersey. J.D. sent to the Park. Vergere signed formula . I wrote to Mr Caroole. February 27 Packet from Rome . Mgr Pietro d' Alcantara, Antifellense, Vic. Ap. del Mogol Bombay.

Vescovo

March 2 Dr Mareschel from Rome. Letter forwarded to Mr Whitfield, Baltimore. March 6 Sent newspapers from Dr Conwell to Card Fontana. 5s 9p. Gave orders for sale of 410:2:8 Navy 5. Names Poynter & Hodgson. Gave orders for power of attorney for sale of 8500 Miss Hicks. Letter from Bp of Quebec with letters for Mons De la Porte, Bp of Kilmore, Rt Rev Dr Doyle of Carlow, Revd David Walsh Cork, Revd Phil O'Reilly Ballymore. Sent. March 12 Went to Brook Green. James Copeland, born Jan 6, Father Prot. English, sent to Sedgely Park. Mrs Corcoran pays ÂŁ25 pa. Charles Baggs born in Ireland. His mother has lived 9 years in Somerstown. March 16 Returned from Brook Green. March 17 Preached at Spanish Chapel.

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1822

225

March 18 Consecrated a chalice & paten for Canada sent to Abbe Clement. Sent to Revd Father Lavigne, Carmelite Vicar general of Bombay, a Bill of lading of a case of books. March 27 I desired Mr Norris of Lincoln's Inn to undertake Miss Neil's affairs in Louisiana. Packet from Rome: Illmo Patricio Kelly, electo Eps Norfolk in Virginia and a la superieure du monastere de la Visitation [to the most Revd Patrick Kelly, Bishop elect of Norfolk in Virginia and to the superior of the monastery of the Visitation], George Town, Baltimore. March 28 Sent to Mr Norris of Lincoln's Inn the conveyance of lease for a year of Miss Neil's estate in Louisiana. Dno Pro O'Loughlin licentia M . celebrandi ad 3 menses . Packet from Rome with a large letter to Macao with a request to forward 1800 Roman crowns to Macao; sent by favour of Sir George Stourton. April 1 Hall & Ilsley at Lisbon, London District. April 3 Went to Old Hall. April 4 Consecrated Holy Oils. sIS Returned. Packet from Rome with letters to Philadelphia & Rio de Janeiro. 9s 7p, Is lOp, 3s 6p. April 8 Packet forwarded to me from nuncio at Paris by French Ambassador for Mexican Archbp. 6s 6p. April 16 Michael Morin 13 yrs old, born Liverpool. Irish parents, 10 years in London, fixed residence in London. Delivered to Mr Raphael the two promissory notes of Mr Bunce of Hammersmith ÂŁ25 each to get the money returned to me.

5 15

Before the building of the new chapel at Moor Fields Bishop Poynter consecrated the Holy Oils at St Edmund's on Maundy Thursday each year.

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April 22 James Morris 12 yrs old born in London. Mr Morris will pay £25 pa. April 30 Mr Canning's debate for Catholic Peers. Majority for of 5. 51 6 Revd Dno Mourt easdem facultates & ad idem tempus quas habet in Distr Occid [The same faculties granted to the Revd Mr Mourt and for the same period that he has in the Western District]. May 1 Recd a letter from the Pope & Card Consalvi in answer to my letters by Archbp Baltimore. May 3 I went to Brook Green. May 6 Returned from Brook Green. Sent an order to Mr Healy of Southampton for £50 in part of payment of the £275 value of old Quakers Chapel. May 11 Went to College. May 12 Gave Confirmation to congregation at Old Hall. May 16 Confirmation for students in College. May 25 Packet from Rome for Cincinnati, Bombay & Malabar. June 12 Letter from Dr Gradwell dated 25 May with Indulgence for Charitable Sisters. 517

5 16 5 17

Bill to allow Catholic peers to sit again in the House of Lords; later defeated by 42 votes in the Lords. III 18 L4 Dr Poynter had established the 'Society of Charitable Sisters' to distribute clothing to cover the shivering members of the orphan or hapless children.' The sisters were not nuns.

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1822

227

June 13 I called on Dr Phillimore; Smith's bill on marriages will probably be so framed as to include Catholics. June 15 I sent to Mr Kimbell by Mr Byron the counterpart of lease of Gosport & abstract of Harting deeds. June 17 Dombrin, born at A vernes Ie Compte near Arras, of Etienne Dombrine & Catherine Leroux, 21 yrs old last Christmas. I wrote to Boulogne to the Bp of Arras for an exeat for him 24 Feb 1823 . June 20 Student from Arras, exeat sought from Bp of Arras . Revd Thomas Wild arrived to enter the Mission at Chelsea. June 21 Conceditur Revd Dno Carroll aut alio sacerdoti apud St Helier in Insula Jersey facultas binandi in absentia Dni Navet et infirmitate Dni Danielis ad finem anni [Granted to the Revd Mr Carroll or another priest to binate Mass in St Helier in the Island of Jersey until the end of the year in the absence of Abbe Navet and during the sickness of Mr Danie~. June 30 Confirmation at Sutton Place. Jos Savage goes to College. H is mother pays pocket money ÂŁ2 pa & ÂŁ10 pa besides. July 8 I wrote to Card Consalvi about 1000 Roman crowns & to M r Gradwell . July 10 Went to Winchester. July 11 Preached at convent. Miss Mary Ellen Neil gave a gold watch to the Bishop for the time being, also trinkets for the remonstrance at Old Hall & some breakfast plate. July 12 Went to Southampton, met Mr Kimbell, saw the new chapel.

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July 13

Went to Cowes & Newport. Sl8 July 14

Confirmation at Newport. July 15

Went to Cowes. July 16

Mr Pierrepont signed an act of donation of his furniture to me. July 18

Went to Portsmouth . July 19

Went to Havant. S19 July 20

Returned to London. July 31

Returned from College. August 2

I wrote to Card Consalvi about Mr Baines, Mr Waring & 52 dollars sent to Macao. Mr P J Molie appointed to Stock congregation. 52o Faculties ad finem anni. August 3

Wrote to Mr Stapleton to say that he is relieved of the charge of Southampton. August 13

Wrote to Mr Healy to draw on me at Wright's for ÂŁ245 & to Mr Kimbell to go & negotiate all at Southampton. Revd John Meany appointed to Sheerness with faculties ad annum.

5 18 5 19 520

Cowes had been a mission from 1796, Newport from 1791. Previously named mission of Brockhampton in which Poynter had 'read his catechism'. A mission chapel (Langstone) from 1733. A mission near Ingatestone, Essex, dedicated to Our Lady of Mount Carmel.

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229

August 15 Somerstown preaching from Sardinian Chapel. August 20 A letter from Mr Gradwell dated Aug 3, with grants. August 21 los Martin Travers appointed to Cale Hill facultates ad annum. August 28 Wednesday evening left London for Paris. 52l August 29 Detained at Dover by boisterous weather. August 30 Left Dover, arrived at Calais in 3 hours 8m. Went from Calais to Samer. August 31 From Samer to Beauvais. I took with me to France £8 of my own. I have given £5 to Miss Spencer. September 1 Spent Sunday at Beauvais. September 2 Arrived at Paris aux Missions Etrangeres, called on Mr Daniel. Cost for journey to Paris £50. Given to William 522 £4 and £l. Dinner at Calais 9ff, for cabriolet to Paris 100ff. Expenses of journey from Calais to Paris £15.5s 4p. September 3 Went to Mr Hunter at the English Consulate who advised me how to proceed. Went to Mr Mahieu at the French consulate. Given William for expenses 40ff.

52 1

522

See Ward 3, pp. 138-40, for Poynter's negotiations about the Douai claims; he stayed in France for six months until the end of February 1823 but achieved nothing. Probably the valet who accompanied him to France.

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September 4 Called at the same places. NB Journey from Calais to Paris 354ff = ÂŁ14.l0s. Given William for expenses 40ff. September 6 Archbp of Baltimore called & Abbe Janson . Received for Dist. of Archbp of Baltimore for Postage ÂŁ4. lOs 9p. September 7 Received of the Archbishop of Baltimore for Mr Wm. Walter 50 louis. September 8. Dined with the Marquis of Montmerency. September 9 I went to see Mr Mahon; he had laid my demand before the Commission, the Commission answered that it could not communicate with any creditors of rentes, but only with the English Commissioners. Sent a letter to Mr Bramston & to Mr Staples, directed to Abbe de la Porte. A packet from Rome. Sent to Mgr Bonatelli, Bombay, a letter from Revd Ch Neal Georgetown College, United States. Sent to Mr Tuite to be forwarded by post. Given William 20ff, taken for coach hire 5ff. September 11 A letter from Mr Gradwell Aug 17, with Diploma for the Academia di Religione Catholica. 523 September 12 Paid for M anteau 10ng,524 53ff. Given William for expenses 20ff. September 13 I answered C.Consalvi on the 3 letters. Also Bertozzoli about the Academia, sent by post. Recd letter from Mr Tuite dated 9th enclosing one from Dr Conwell for Rome & one from Mr Stewart of Greenwich.

523 524

Founded in 1800, this Roman Academy was dedicated to combatting the errors of the Revo lutionary era. A long overcoat.

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1822

231

September 16 Sent my letter to Mr Tuite & Mr Stewart. September 18 Granted Bp of Evreux all right to adopt his nephew Louis Charles de Dion as his subject, who was born in London. September 21 Mr Sherborne arrived with Mr Pilling going to Valladolid. Recd letter from Mr Tuite with 2 for Archbp Baltimore. Sent them to his Grace. September 26 Archbp of Baltimore left Paris. September 29 Sang High Mass at St Genevieve. October 9 Confirmed Lady Burke (Sidney), at the Duchess de Duras, (Maria) in confirmation. [October 9 is the only entry between September 29 and October 22 except for occasional receipt of letters.} October 22 I went to the Paris Bank & signed a transfer of 50.209 to WP [illegible}. Ditto transfer of 4736 to Fr J. WP. Paid at L'Affittes 50 old Louis d'ors for Mr J. Walter to be remitted by him to Messrs Coutts, for Mr Walter. Drawn on Wright's for ÂŁ200, value left at Callaghans ÂŁ5009. October 28 L'Abbe Baradere called when I was wntmg to Boyer (Abbe Baradere was Pref. Apost a Senegal). He is known to Boyer, has the confidence of Boyer & is ready to go to St Domingo in January, with Mr Mayot, Mr Troile, Mr Baradere his nephew & an Irish clergyman. Mr Tabando, originally of Genes, missioner at Senegal, gone to England. St Louis of Gore at Senegal under French. St Marie under English. There are 3 or 4 religious at St Marie. Governor McCarthy anxious to have Catholic priests, he invites the French to go over, but they have not faculties. Wrote to President Boyer of Hayti.

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November 6 Wrote to Rome in answer to letters of 13 & 14 Sept, sending copy of my letter to Pres Boyer of Haiti. Wrote to Mr Gradwell about restriction of correspondence with Propaganda and Addis[?}. November 25 I signed the lease of the Artichoke Public house to Robt. Woolman at Paris. Mr Thos. Wright witness. December [Mostly a resume of finances : regular payments of 40ff 'to William for expenses', for coach hire and 'paid for Propaganda Missals'. Under "Memorandums and Observations for the year" are notes about items of clothing, some legible:} Shirts 8, new, 6 + WP, 6 best + P, 7 without frills + WP, 8 old set with frills + . 'Castle St-in use-8 shirts +, 6 ditto + WP, 4 cravats + red, 5 ditto + WP blue, 4 ditto no marks, 4 neck handkerchiefs'igh Mass [sic} at High Mass.525

[There is no diary for 1823.}

525

The ' + WP' in this entry apparently refers to embroidered marks on the linen.

JANUARY

1824

233

1824 January 1 Bon Secours a Caen for Insane Persons, from 600 to 1200 francs pa. Wrote to Dr Barnes. January 2 I wrote to Revd P. Conolly, Hobart Town, Van Dieman's Land, sending a Bill of Lading for Devour. Two articles sent to Mr Coote. I wrote to Mr Gradwell. Revd los Casque signed a power of attorney to authorise Callaghan at Paris to sell 20,000 Rentes, the power to be ,sent to Messrs Kimbell & Griffiths . January 3 Consecravi calicem pro Dno Lorrymer 526 [J consecrated a chalice for Dom Lorrymer]. I wrote to Fr Fidelis da Cuneo, Madras. January 3 I wrote to Fr James Stewart, Ballygentry Tyrone St about Henry Stewart. January 5 Alphonso Madrano a Spanish Priest of the Diocese of Toledo, who was employed as Chaplain of a Regiment under the Cortes, applied for leave to say Mass . I required testimonials, he declared he was not a Constitutionalist,527 supposed to belong to Landiburnians, a violent Jacobin & antireligious society. January 6 Sent to Nuncio at Paris 3 letters from China, one to him, one to Propaganda, one to General of Dominicans at Rome. I wrote to the Archbp of Paris & to Mr Desjardins. I reed a letter from Mr de Ridder from Victor Van Veer of Gent, ready to come for the Missions. I wrote to Mr Stewart & to Mr Daniel. Sent John Stacey to Cherbourg to take care of Mr Stewart, he is to have ÂŁ20 a year besides board & lodging.

526 527

Dom Anselm (Michael) Lorymer OSB (1751-1832). The Spanish Constitution of 1812 was strongly anti-clerical; Ferdinand VII (18 13-33) restored the Church's rights, but there was further anti-clerical trouble in 1820 when the Constitution was re-established; the King restored his absolute rule in 1823.

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January 7 Licentia binandi capellanis apud St Geo Fields pro recepitate ad unum mensem. Revd Dno Danneville in Jersey facultas absolvendi eos, quorum confessiones audierat, quos vero non absolverat ante 1st diem huius mensis - etiam licentia Missam celebrandi in Jersey ad finem Junii [Permission to binate Mass is granted to the chaplains at St Georges Fields from month to month. To Abbe Danneville the faculty of absolving those whose confessions he has heard, but those whom he had not absolved before the 1st day of this month, also permission to say Mass in Jersey to end of June]. Packet from Propaganda, Padre Fidele da Cuneo, Madras. January 9 I received from Rome a power to dispense for Religious that they may make wills to secure property to their order. January 12 "Borrowed from Bishop Poynter a small silver chalice & paten for Maidstone." (signed) John Meany. Pamphlet (Hogans) from Bp Conwell. January 15 Letter from Mr Rock saying the Pope is better, dated 29 December. Packet from Rome: Illmo e Rmo Dno Ludovico Gullielmo Du Bourg, Epis Novae Aureliae,528 All' lllmo Signre & Signae Gaspari de Abbate, Console Generale di sua Maesta Sarda 529 negli stati uniti di America, Filadelphia, with an order to draw Tolania for one thousand Roman crowns to be sent to Mgr Dubourg, dated 27 Dec. Conceditur Revd Dno Horabbin facultas dispensandi in 3 affinities et Dno Guerry in impedimenta criminis [To the Revd Mr Horrabin is granted the faculty of dispensing from the 3 degrees of affinity and to Mr Guerry of dispensing from the impediments of crimen]. January 17 Charles James Hadnett goes to College, his mother pays ÂŁ30 pa.

528 529

A letter to the bishop of New Orleans. A letter to the envoy of the Sardinian King in the United States.

JANUARY - FEBRUARY

1824

235

January 20 Dr Conwell, including letters to Card Somaglia. Packet from Rome: Revd Patrick P Harold Vic. Gen. Philadelphia; Sardinian Envoy Philadelphia. January 26 Lartigue Montreal ditto to Rome. Packet from Bp Quebec, Letter to Rome. January 30 Leave to Mr Moore of Turnham Green to have Mass said in his house. Letter from Mr Gradwell Jan 15. February 2 Revd Hamilton, Revd Mr Gaffney at Paris. Letter to Mgr Plessis, to Liverpool lId. From Bardstown ditto postage to Rome. Letter to Dr Conolly New York to Liverpool Ild. 53o February 3 Letter from John Rush of Roman College. Letter from Dr Gradwell & from Card Consalvi announcing his being Prefect of Propaganda. I ansd Card Consalvi. February 4 I certified the signatures of Thos Lowe, Edw Heathcote & Jn Chaloner to certificates of the life of Frances Sgambella at Bradley. Wrote to Mr Gradwell sending Mr & Mrs Butler's petition for 2 Rio de Janeiro Francs. February 6 Dr Gradwell says in his letter to Dr Collingridge dated 24 Jan, "Card Consalvi & Mgr Caprano have told me that nothing is clearer than that the Vicars Apostolic in England cannot employ Jesuits in their Districts but on the footing of Secular Priests." February 9 I have seen the ordination certificate, a formula of faculties , an exeat, and a form of leave to say Mass & to hear confessions from Bp of Leghorn at Leghorn for Fr Ignatius Trevino .

530

Mail was sent abroad by sea from Liverpool.

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February 10 Mr Staples left Virg St. Letter from Mr Gradwell 24 Jan announcing the death of Card Consalvi on the 24th RIP . Ansd, telling him to call on Propaganda. 19:17:11 cf to pay McGee at duo Apart ÂŁ4. February 11 Joseph Ignatio Trevino, No 43 Clarges Str, Piccadilly, licentia Missam celebrandi & faculties administrandi sac pen Hispaniis & Mexicanis. Revd Dno Petro Tyrrell licentia binandi ad finem Junii [To Joseph Ignatius Trevino .... permission to say Mass and hear confessions of the Spanish & Mexicans. To Revd Mr Peter Tyrrell permission to binate Mass until end of June]. February 12 Revd Dno Jos Beaumont extenduntur facultates ad omnes exteros et ad eos quorum confessiones unquam audivit. Renovatur cum renovatione facultatum pro Gallis [Faculties are extended for Revd Mr Joseph Beaumont to administer to all foreigners and to those whose confessions he has ever heard, with renewal of faculties to administer to the French]. February 16 Prorogantur facultates antea Dno Bridge ad 2 Martii 1825. February 17 Packet from Rome: Bp Mareschal Baltimore, Mgr Pietro Alcantara Bombay, Bp Smith Durham, Illmo ac Rmo Dno Penswick electo Episcopo Europum. 531 February 18 Sent to Dr Gradwell 2 petitions for W.I. Protector & Zurla. 532 March 1 Dimissorials granted to Mr Charles Paul Austin Comberback 533 of the London District at Mechlin; he is acolyte, 22 yrs old, to

53 1 532 533

Thomas Penswick, Bishop of Europum, Coadjutor to Bishop Smith in 1824; succeeded as V.A. in 1831; died in 1836. Cardinal Zurla (1769-1834), was Prefect of the Propaganda College and Cardinal Vicar of Rome, and a noted scholar. Rev. Charles Comber bach (1801-1891) ordained 1825, served in Southwark and Birmingham dioceses.

MARCH

1824

237

serve the London District at Mr Crumps, Greenwich and Woolwich. Packet from Rome, Mgr Dubourg, sent to Liverpool. March 3 Dno de la Porte facultas adm sac paroch.534 Dno Maria Santarelli ad revoc. March 9 Dr Mareschal Baltimore, ansd March 16, postage to Liverpool. March 10 Packet from Rome & Propaganda: Dr England Charlestown, Flaget Bardstmyn, Conolly New York, Mareschal Baltimore, Dubourg St Louis, H Conwell Philadelphia. March 13 Ordained Ian Foley Priest,535 Francis Aske, Thomas Lavant, Matthew Ryan subdeacons ad tit. Miss. March 15 Messrs King & Reardon signed the property of Moor Fields Chapel to Messrs Poynter, Bramston & Tuite. March 16 Bp of Quebec, forwarded to Rome. March 17 Letter from Madras enclosing one to II P Guiseppe Ignatio del Cuore di Gesu, Preposito Generale di Carmeliti Scalzi, Roma. 536 March 19 Consecravi 3 calices cum patenis suis pro Abbe Chene. Letter to Propaganda from Bp Buckley. March 23 Wrote to Mr John B Cuthbert, St Lucia. Packet from Propaganda: letter to Dr Conwell, with an order form to draw for 500 Roman Crowns Cr. Drawn March 23 . 534 535 536

'sacramenta parochialia' - grant of all faculties and permissions necessary for the administration of a mission . Probably Rev . James Foley (1793-1846) from Ireland, trained at St Edmund's. The Discalced Carmelites.

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March 24

Packet from China, ditto, both for Propaganda. Sent by French Ambassador's mail. March 25

Licentia binandi ad festum SS Petri & Pauli inclusive Dno Kersy [Permission to binate until Feast of Sts Peter and Paul inclusive to Rev. Kersy]. April 5

Jos Maria Moralejo, a Spanish Priest who had been attached to the late Cortes, asked leave to say Mass. I called for litterae testimoniales, in the mean time wait. Letter to Propaganda from Bombay. April 6

Mark Macheal,18 in Feb, born in London. Licentia celebrandi ad 3 menses Revd Dno Xanti Arrighi a Giotatogo de Ampugnani Pro Dioc adjacensiem formulae subscripsit [Permission to the Reverend Xantus Arrighi of the Ampugnani diocese! ?j, who has subscribed to the formula to say Mass for 3 months] .537 Packet from Rome, Mgr Plessis, to Liverpool. April 10

Faculties for the London District to Revd Mr Soley so long as he resides in Northampton & has faculties from V.A. of Midland District. Revd James Fleetwood, Rain Hill, Nr Preston, Lancashire. 538 April 12

Other Chapels distressed: Jersey, Guernsey, Reading, Horsham. 539 At a meeting with Mr Bramston & Mr Fryer on Barnard's Estate it was agreed to allow from 1st Jan 1824 £40 to Priest at Burton near Christchurch, £40 to Priest at Sheerness, £40 to Priest serving Mitcham. 54o Letter from Jos Lee in answer to Mgr Macchis enquiry, Propaganda; Carshalton, Surrey. 537 538

539 540

See entry for November 3 below. Presuma bly the mission of Rainhill , Prescot, near Liverpool. A James Fleetwood was ordained in 1823 and served in the Western D istrict and the diocese of Liverpool until his death in 1862. 'distressed ' - for want of priests, funds , or congregation? An indication of a priest's annual allowance. Mi tcham was a mission from 1810; ECP 500.

APRIL - MAY

1824

239

April 15 Packet from Rome: Pri Angelo a S Josepho Mariano, Ministro, Provcia ImaIta Conceptionis Ord. Min. Observ. Reform. , Fluvium Januarii, Rio Janeiro.54 ! Sent by Munt & Havis, 36 Wood Street, Cheapside. April 21 Licentia Missam celebrandi Abbe Le Gresle ad finem 1825. Licentia Missam celebrandi Revd Dno Malachie Duggan e Diocesi Killaloe ad 6 menses [Permission to say Mass to Abbe Gresle until the end of 1825 and to Rev. Malachy Duggan from the Diocese of Killaloe for 6 months] . April 23 James Wendham sent to Somerstown. Wrote to Dr Gradwell & Mr Langan about students going to Rome . April 27 Sent to Revd John B Cuthbert, Rector of St George's College St Lucia, a parcel with his confirmation as Rector & a letter to Sir W A'Court, Madrid. 542 Packet from Propaganda: lImo ac Rmo Dno Emanueli a S Galdino, Archiep Goa; Illmo ac Rmo Dno J os Rosati, Electo Epo Tenagransi, St Luis. April 29 Licentia Missam celebrandi Revd Dnis Joanni Thoma Mooney, et Dominico, Hibern Dominicanis Roma redeuntibus, ad unum mensem [Permission to say Mass to Revv John Thomas Mooney and Dominic, Irish Dominicans returning from Rome, for one month]. April 30 Went to ColI. May 2 Confirmation to students at ColI: King, Brogan, Robson, Baggs. Six students left London for Roman College.

54 1

542

A complex address: Presumably Prior Angelo of St Joseph Mariano, Minister of the Province of the Immaculate Conception of the Order of Reformed Observant Minims. 'F luvium Januarii' is a Latinised form of Rio de Janeiro. Sir William A'Court (1799-1860), first Baron Heytesbury, diplomat; envoy to Spain, 1822, and ambassador to Portugal, 1824 (DNB).

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May 4 Returned to town. May 7 Met Mr Bramston & Mr Fryer about Mr Tierney's affairs. May 8 Wrote to Mr Thompson to take 4 students for Ecd school. May 10 I wrote to Mr Doyle to visit Bernard McEntee, King's Bench No 16. Letter from Matitia McCarthy, Taunton. May 11 Packet from Mr Raphael, superior Macao, to Mgr Macchi; sent by Fr Ambassador. May 12 Mr Meany's expenses pa Lodging £20 .16s Food £31 4s Coals, Washing £14. 4s Clothes £17. 4s Total £83. 8s. Weybridge Catholics diminish in number. May 14 The times of the Indulgences are extended for Mr Shaw, a week longer than the usual times for those People who live 5 miles from Hendred & a fortnight for those who live more than 5 miles, granted to Pentecost 1825. May 19 Went with Dr Bramston to Mr Phillimore about Marriage Bill. To Moor Fields & signed Mr Reardon's book. Facultas Dno de la Pate audiendi conf Dna Huddleston [Faculty to Abbe de La Pate to hear the confession of Lady Huddleston]. May 31 I wrote to the Bp of Soissons transferring to him & his successors all right to George Marie Windham, born in London. June 1 Letter from Mr Gradwell dated 15 May & from Mr Rock. Mr Tuite returned from Jersey. Revd Dno Whitwell licentia binandi ad 1 Jan 1825.

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241

June 2

Letter from China for Mgr Macchi, sent by French mail June 7. June 3

Packet from Propaganda, letters: Dr Buckley Trinidad, Dr Mareschal Baltimore, Dr Pietro d'Alcantara Bombay. Padre Nicola di Gesu Maria, Carmelino Scalzo, Verapoli; one for me to draw on Torlonia for SOO Rom crowns to be sent to Dr Buckley. Letter from Hayti for Propa in answer to mine of Oct 30 1822, sent the original to the Propa with an accompanying letter, by the French mail June 7. June 4

I wrote to Dr Buckley to draw on me for £100 lOs 1d. Letter from the Secretary of the President of Hayti, President Boyer 30 Oct 1822. June 5

Mr Kearns 543 went to Mr Selby's at Acton . June 7

I granted power to the Archbp of Paris to absolve the Refractory French Priests returning to the Unity of the Church, from excommunication & suspension reserved to me & to dispense them from irregularities with power to delegate the same faculties in the Diocese of Paris. June 8

John Murphy Esq, Mount Prospect near Killarny, Co Kerr, Ireland. June 9

The books sent to M.C. L'Olivier, Prince Edwards Island, recommended to Mr Arbuthnot at Madras, have been received. Mrs Caulier, lS3 Cheap Side, £S pa for Mark Robson at Rome. June 10

This day the students who left London 2 May arrived in Rome, for the whole of the expenses paid by me £100 .SsAd, by Dr Gradwell £S2.3s 6d total £lS2.8s10d: £2S.8s1d each. Licentia 543

Rev . John Kearns (1795-1861 ), ordained 1822, had been trained in Rome; later served in the diocese of Southwark.

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Revd Dno Collins (20 Hercules Buildings Lambeth) Missam celebrandi ad 3 menses . One third sand, two fifths Parkin's cement, sufficient scaffolding for the whole within six weeks, ask Mr Newman what the measuring price is. 544 Packet from Rome: Dr Jos Rosati electo Epo Tanagensi, New Orleans; Dr Wm Dubourg, St Louis. A letter to me with orders to draw on Tolonia for 621 Rom crowns to be sent to Rt Revd Joseph Rosati, Coadjutor to Mgr Dubourg. Letter to Bp Rosati via Liverpool, ditto to Mgr Plessis, Quebec, about Upper Canada. June 11 Birtha crimen cum Fratre Titio, in Protestante ecclesia postea in conjugem sumpsit, et post attentatum matrm cum eodem Fratre peccavit [Bertha committed sin with Brother Titius, afterwards took him in marriage in a Protestant church, and after the attempted marriage sinned with the same Brother]; wrote to Morell & Mr Gradwell. Dispensation obtained & granted Sept 3 1824.545 June 12 Licentia Missam celebrandi Revd Dno Franco Meseques et Emanuel Pitarc - Presbyteris Hispanis bene commendatis, ad 3 menses [Permission for Revv Meseques & Pitarc, Spanish priests well recommended, to say Mass for 3 months]. A Mr Couch left a sum of money by will to Bp Douglass after the death of Mrs Couch. June 15 Wrote to Bp Buckley to draw for ÂŁ100 lOs 1d on Prop a account. Wrote to Rt Revd Joseph Rosati, New Orleans, to draw for ÂŁ124 16s 6d on Prop a account. June 17 Packet from Rome : Mgr Dubourg St Louis; F.Vincenzo Ma di Monte Torto Minor operanti Missionario Apostolico nella Cina in Sensi et Sansi; P. Zambi Ma da Firenze, Vescovo di Kerman,

544 545

Mr Newman was the architect of the new Moor Fields chapel; but see under 10 July below. 'That the rule of conduct delivered by Bishop Challoner in 1759, declaring that Catholics should first be married by a Catholic priest before they go to the Protestant minister, is to be observed in all the Districts.' (Statement from a synod held at Winchester and Old Hall Green in 1803). See Ward , St Edmund's, p. 319. Titius and Bertha were the traditional names used to ensure anonymity when discussing serious (or hypothetical) cases.

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243

et Vic. Apost. Thibet. I wrote to Mgr Raphael at Macao sending the above for China. June 19 A Spanish Priest Felippe Padierne Ortiz, Franciscan, had been aumonier to the Provincial Regiment of Laredo . He had powers from the Military General Vicar of Sargasso, Don Antonio Allue, Patriarca de las Indias, Vic Gen de las Reales et Executor; at Madrid secularised. Facultas Dno Belasio admin Sac Pen Dnae Riego in periculo mortis posita, non autem sacr Viatici aut Extremo unctionis, pro quibus invitetur aliquis sacerdos e capella Cadogan Street aut alia Capella Londini [Faculty granted to Mr Belasius to hear the confession of Mrs Riego if in danger of death, but not Viaticum or Extreme Unction, for which any priest from the Cadogan Street chapel or any other London chapel is to be invited]. June 22 Revd Dno Angelo Maria Baldacconi, Juris utriusque Doctori, facultates ad revoc, in Capello de Lincoln's Inn Fields [Faculties until revoked granted as a chaplain of Lincoln's Inn Fields to Rev. Dom Angelo Maria Baldacconi, doctor of Canon and Civil Law]. June 23 Went to St Edmund's for Exhibition. Went by mail to Durham. Revd Dno Danneville licentia Missam celebrandi ad I Jan 1825. June 24 Letter from Propa for Mexico; Propa for Dr Norman McDonald. Expenses of journey ÂŁ8.8s 2d June 25 Arrived at Durham. June 26 Went to Ushaw. Facultas sac. paroch. administrandi (excepto matrimonio) Revd Dno Francisco Mesequer et Revd Dno Emanuel Pitarc Presbyteris Hispanis (11 Richmond Buildings Soho) ad sex menses [Faculties to administer the sacraments (except matrimony) granted to the Spanish Priests Francis Mesequer and Emmanuel Pitarc at (11 Richmond Buildings, Soho) for six months]. 12 Booth Court, Wells St, Oxford. 546

546

See note 552 below.

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June 28

3 letters from Father Umpierres at Macao for Propa 9s 3d, ditto to Rome 7s 8d, ditto to Lisbon 2s 6d. Mr Whitwell of Vine Cottage, Sutton Place, says that Lady Lucy Stewart will give £40 pa towards the support of the Priest there and that the Dowager Mrs Weston will make up the rest (to £100) by half yearly payments, during the life of Mr John Weston & that after his death there will be money for the support of a chaplain - Ita [thus] Mrs Whitwell . June 29

Consecrated the Rt Revd Dr Thomas Penswick, Bp of Eut"opus, Coadj to Vic Apost of Northern District. July 1

Gave testimonial of consecration; returned to Durham. July 2

Left Durham for London. July 3

Prorogata Dno Arrighi fac m. cel. ad 15 Aug [Faculties to Rev. Arrighi to celebrate Mass until 15 August]. Arrived in London . July 5

John Richd Bennett, 15, + £2 pa for 5 years. July 7

Mr Chabot to leave Shefford next Wednesday. July 8

Packet from Rome: Frederick Reve, Cincinnati, from Liverpool. Letter from Dr Buckley dated June 3rd. Wrote to Tabando to say that Dr Buckley does not want him . July 10

Mr Newman resigned being architect at Moor Fields. Faculties to Revd Mr Adamson during absence of Revd P. Potier of a month after his return. Dno Vergy licentia binandi ad Michaelmas [Faculties to Rev. Vergy to binate until Michaelmas].547 547

L' Abbe Pierre Robert Vergy (J 763-1827), of the diocese of Bayeux, served a number of missions up and down the country, including Southampton.

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245

July 12 Mr Dennis McCarthy has paid the ground Rent of Stratford Chapel to Midsummer 1824-1825; ten guineas are due to Mr McCarthy for the ground Rent & so on in future. Mr Den McCarthy coal merchant 3 Love Lane. July 13 O'Hara to Sedgley Park, his Brother pays ÂŁ15 & his Parents will find him in clothes, boy born in London of Protestant Parents. July 14 Wrote to Bp Buckley about students for his mISSIOn. Facultas binandi clero Virginia St ad finem Jan 1825 [Faculties to binate to the clergy at Virginia St to the end of 1825]. Baptist Final de Smyrna. July 15 Mr Philipps called me Dec 10th for the ground rent, No 4 Myrtle St Hoxton . Name of Mr Philipps insurance Sun Fire Office. Letter from Dr Conwell, one to be forwarded to Propa. Revd Dno Patricio Moore 18 King Street Soho Square a Diocesi Barcinonensi licentia Missam celebrandi ad 3 menses. Licentia binandi Dno Bowland 548 ad finem Januari 1825 [Licence to say Mass for 3 months to Rev. Patrick Moore, 18 King St, Soho Square, of the Diocese of Barcelona. Licence to Rev. Bowland to binate to end of January 1825] . July 17 One house in state of ruin, be repaired. July 19 Revd Mr Tilt, Curate & external lecturer of All Hallows, Lombard Street, converted and recd into Church 29 July by Mr Rolfe. cf Mr Cain. July 22 Revd Dno de la Porte facultas audiendi confessionem Sir Ed Hales, et Monialium [To Rev. Abbe de la Porte the faculty of hearing the confession of Sir Ed Hales, and of the nuns].

548

Rev. John Francis Bowland (1770?-1857), ordained in 1795 after training at Douai.

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July 23

John Hearne & Charles Darcy from Dr Kelly of Waterford come to study for the London District, both 20 years old . David Cavil from the Diocese of Clone with an exeat from Coppinger dated 30th June 1824, born at Buttervant. Mr Arquis subdeacon will go to Coll & pay £20, he has dimissorials from Archbp of Rouen who will grant him an exeat. July 26

I wrote to V.R. Dr Edmund Tharick[?] of Galway sending a Bank Bill of £300 for poor sufferers. Charles O'Hara, his Brother will pay £15 pa, born in Wardour St London of Dan O'Hara & Elizabeth . Father died a Catholic on 18 March 1811, baptised sub conditione, confirmed. William Carroll, No 2 Deans Row, Walworth, Father will pay £40 & a quarter of clothes keep . Licentia Tho Magauran administandi sacr parochia, Missam celebrandi ad 1 mensem, visis literis [His papers being in order Thomas Magauran is given faculties to administer the sacraments and say Mass for 1 month]. July 27

Letter from Dr Gradwell 10 July . July 28

Answd Dr Gradwell, asked for an amended dispensation for Mr Morel, & for a dispensation for Mr de la Porta, Genl Aug. Danican 6 Adam St Adelphi. Granted , reed Sept 23 1824. July 29

Letter from Propa, to pay Postage of letter detained at Post Office. Litia binandi Dno De la Rue ad finem Jan 1824 [Licence to binate to Rev. De la Rue to the end of January 1824].549 August 1

Ordained John Edmund 's.55o

549 550

Maguire

John

Clarke

Deacons

Presumably should be 1825. The Revv. John Maguire (1801-1865) and John Clark (1793 -1 853), ordained priests in 1825, later served in the diocese of Westminster.

AUGUST

1824

247

August 2 Revd J Lee authorised to clothe M . Abbot Lay Sister at Hammersmith. Dno de la Porte facultas admini sac Paroch Duc Acton et familia ad revocationem, 44 Montg Square [Abbe de La Porte is given the faculty of administering the sacraments until revoked for Lord Acton and his family, 44 Montague Square]. August 5 I confirmed Dr Cox. Mr Knapp at Brighton. Revd Dno Cullen licentia binandi ad tres menses. Packet from Propa:letter to Sigr G de Abbate, Console Generale di S M Sarda [His Sardinian Majesty], Filadelphia. 5s 9d. August 6 James Thos Neale goes to CoIl on Mr Bramston's list. Write to Dr Gradwell to pay Mr Wyndham's niece. August 10 Wrote to Zurla & Dr Gradwell for Dispensation a crimine inter Prot & Coleen, Mr Horrabin. Granted, dispensation recd Sep 30. Packet from Rome to Illmo Alcantara Bombay; Raffaele Umpierres, Vic Proc. Macao; Illmo Prendergast Malabar; Illmo ac Rmo Dno D Petro Veleru, Archbp St Dominici in Insula Haitarum, a sua Excellenza II Sig [?J Boyer Presidente della Rep di Haiti;551 Mgr Dubourg, New Orleans. One for me with copies of the letters to Archbp of S Domingo & Boyer. August 11 Prorogata licentia Missam celebrandi Dno Arrighi ad 6 Jan 1825. Revd Dno Guilo Hogan (non illi a Philadelphia) ex Diocesi Cloyensi & Rossin licentia Missam celebrandi in Distr London ad 3 menses; Revd Dno Jacobo Doyle licia Missam cel ad 1 mensem [Permission is granted to say Mass for Rev Arrighi until 6 Jan 1825. To Rev. Mr William Hogan (not he of Philadelphia) from the diocese of Ross & Cloyne permission to say Mass in the London District for 3 months; to Revd Mr James Doyle to say Mass for 1 month].

551

Hai li had gai ned its independence from Fra nce in 1804; Jean Pierre Boyer succeeded as President in 18 18 and ruled for 25 years. The country was in schism from Rome until 1860, without any bishops but with a number of rather doubtful clergy.

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August 18 Packet from Propa to Raffaelle Umpierres, Vic. Proc. Macao. August 20 Wrote to Dr Gradwell & to the Cure de Geneve. I gave the habit to three novices at Somerstown. August 21 Letter from Rome for Dr Mareschal at Baltimore. Licentia Missam celeb Revd Dno Joachim Eyalarer Dioces Toled visis professionibus ab Epis Agenen Petrocorisen ad 3 menses [Permission to celebrate Mass for 3 months to Rev. Joachim Eyelarer of the Diocese of Toledo after presenting his papers from the bishops of Agen and Periguex], John St, Westminster. August 26 Packet from China with letter for Propa. August 27 Letter to Propa about Giarize. August 30 Packet from Rome, Large letter with parcel for Dr Mareschal Baltimore, letter to Umpierres Macao , Dr Buckley Trinidad, Dr Conwell Philadelphia. September 1 Dno Jac Gaynon licentia Missam celeb ad 1 mensem, Hibernensis e Propa. Dno Pitarc licentia Missam celeb ad 26 Dec 1824 [Permission to say Mass for 1 month to Rev. James Gaynon, an Irishman from Propaganda. Permission to say Mass until 26 Dec 1824 to Rev. Pitarc]. 12 Boat Court, Wells St, Oxford St. 552 September 3 I wrote to Capreno, Secy of Propa, with accounts. The usual Missionary faculties to Revd L Simon of Ipswich for the London District to continue as long as he lives in Suffolk; has faculties from the V.A. of the Midland District.

552

See entry for June 26, where the address is given as Booth Court, Wells St, Oxford.

SEPTEMBER

1824

249

September 5 Revd Dno Patritio Quin e Paris licentia Missam celeb ad 1 mensem [Licence to Rev. Patrick Quinn from Paris to say Mass for 1 month] . I wrote to R. Inginae, Secretary of President of Haiti, sending a transcript of Somaglia's letter to Boyer. September 6 Andrew Quin, at Sem T PiCpUS,553 24 yrs old, 2 yrs Phil, 2 Theol; Dr French of Galway. Dr Aeneas B. MacEachern, Bp Rosensis,554 letter including a power of attorney to me; letter to Rt Revd Dr MacDonald Lissom, sent by Oban, N Britain. Mr Troy, 57 Old Broad Street. Packet from Rome: Dr Flaget, Bardstown, letter for Propa to Haiti. Letter from Dr Buckley. 6s 6d. September 8 John Hearne recommended by Ld Dunoughmore arrived to go to ColI, 18 years old, with Exeat from Bp Dr Kelly of Waterford. Mr Brown left Polewell, is at Somers town. September 9 I gave Mr Tabando a testimonial, he is going to N. District, still willing to serve in foreign missions . I presented a petition to Mr Lang about the Franciscans in the Holy Land annoyed by the Biblemen & British Consul in Palestine. Revd Mr Scott, Prot Archdeacon of New South Wales, called. Mr Thierry moving. September 13 Revd Dno Norris apud Polewell facultates Missionares ad annum [Missionary faculties to Rev. Norris at Polewell for a year]. September 14 Wrote a petition to the Treasury for Sir Wm Gerard's vestments.555

553 554 555

The Congregation of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary had been founded in France in 1800; its priests were popularly known as the Picpus Fathers. See entry for Nov. 23 below. Presumably vestments from abroad for the chapel of Sir William Gerard of Garswood, Lancs; there are a number of references in the Diaries to having to obtain customs clearance for sacred items.

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September 16 I gave a testimonial of faith & good character to Mr Murdock of East Lane going to study medicine at Paris, on Mr Daylis testimony. September 17 I gave an attestation that no dispensation had been granted by me or by the Pope, to my knowledge, for a marriage between Jaymes Antonio de Franca Netto a Catholic of Madeira with Elisa Wellinage of Southampton a Pro, from 1812 to 1816. September 23 Packet from Rome: Conolly New York, Mareschal Baltimore, Joan England Charlestown, Buckley Trinidad . Letter from Prop a with orders to draw for 500 Rom Crowns for Dr England. September 24 I signed a draft on Torlonia for 500 Rom Crowns for which Messrs Butler Brothers will give Dr England an order to draw on them. [Between September 24 and November 3 there are only very occasional entries about letters and faculties.} November 3 I forbad [sic} Arrighi to say Mass, ordered him to bring me a certificate of confession. Faculties of Grand Vicar granted to Rev. Francis Tuite. Notice to Vergy to quit Southampton. November 8 Packet from Propa: letter Mareschal, Inland Postage.

Baltimore.

Letter from

November 10 Letter from Dr Mareschal, Inland Postage to Rome. November 13 Mr Geo Rolfe 556 appointed to Shefford, his faculties to 7 May. John Copeland to Sedgley. Mrs Corcoran pays ÂŁ18 pa, I the rest. Consider Grover - enquire of Mr. Dev. & Mr. H. 556

George Rolfe (1799-1864) was ordained in 1823 after training at St Edmund 's; be later served in the diocese of Westminster.

NOVEMBER

1824

251

November 15 Mr Virriat, a Deacon, sent to St Edmund's to prepare for Trinidad. He was originally of the Diocese of Strasbourgh, has his exeat. Another coming, Desombres, Deacon from Versailles. I lent the Pope's Encyclical. Mr Nerincks preaching. November 16 Letter from Propa: Dr Conwell Philadelphia with a letter to me about the Friars in the Holy Land. A letter from Abbe Perrin Vic Gen of Versailles about Trinidad; Dr Mareschal with an enclosed for Dr Gradwell. November 18 Licia Missam celebrandi in capellis publicis non vero in domibus privatis Dno Joachim Eyaralar ad 21 Feb 1825 [Permission to say Mass in public chapels but not in private houses granted to Joachim Eyaralar until 21 Feb 1825]. vide 21 Aug 1824. November 21 Licia Missam cel. Dno Antonio Bernaben, Presb Hispano e Diocei Valentiana, visis litteris testimonialibus a Dno Joanne Baptista, Zino Notario & Protonotario Apostolico et Parocho Eccles. St Maria la Coronada, Gibraltaria datis die 9 Sep 1824 ad 3 menses in capellis publicis non in domibus privatis [After examination of his testimonial papers from John Baptist Zino, Notary and Protonotary Apostolic and Parish Priest of the Church of St Mary Queen of Heaven in Gibraltar, given on the 9 Sept 1824, the Revd Anthony Bernaben a Spanish priest of the Diocese of Valencia is given permission to say Mass in public chapels but not in private houses for 3 months]. November 23 Letter from Dr Gradwell with one (half sheet) for Dr Plessis. Dr Plessis sent by New England Coffee House. Rt Revd Aneas MacEachern, Ep Rosensis, St Andrews, Prince Edwards Island, N America, letter for me. November 24 I saw Mr Planta 557 on the subject of the Religious in Jerusalem, see letter from Propa 119. Revd D Barnabo de Y rraizos Presb

557

Joseph Planta (1787-1 847), diplomat, secretary to Lord Castlereagh and M .P . (DNB).

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Hisp Diocesis Pampelumensis licentia Missam celeb in cap publ non vero in priv dom in D.L. ad 3 menses . Ipse interea lit. testim. ab Epo impetrabit. Facultates eius datae sunt mense Apr 1823 [Permission to say Mass for 3 months in public chapels but not in private house is granted to Revd D. Barnabas de Yrraizos a Spanish priest of the diocese of Pamplona. Meanwhile he will obtain testimonial letters from his Bishop. His faculties were given in April 1823]. November 26 Joachim a Calvo et Dominquez, Presbiter Valesoletanus [of ValiadolidJ (his permission to say Mass in the Diocese of Toledo was dated 1820. In Cadiz 28 June 1823, in Seville 7 May 1824, for 4 months) . He was at the head of a guerrilla party; No 50 Cromer St, Grays Inn Road. November 28 Dr Bramston gives Confirmation at Brompton Chatham. November 29 Mr Desombres arrived to go to St Ed's to prepare for Trinidad. Left 19th April 1825 [sic]. Letter from His Holiness to Mr Dunn of Preston. Wrote to Mr Conolly Van Diem. Island. A letter from Dr Mareschal Baltimore including one from Rome. December 1 Edmund Harding born in London, baptised by Abbe Carron Aug 5 last, 16 yrs old, nephew of Miss Trelawny. Dispensation a crimine per Dnum Barber Poplar, cui licentia binandi ad finem Junii 1825. December 3 Revd Jac Dunn apud London Park licentia binandi ad 6 menses. December 5 Dr Bramston gives Confirmation at Brighton. December 6 I went to Lord Bathurst who desired me to write to Rome for Dr MacDonnell to be made Bishop in Ordinary of Upper Canada. ss8

558

Alexander MacDonnell (1762-1840), first bishop of Upper Canada; educated at Scots College, Valladolid and ordained 1787; V.A. in 1819, Bishop in 1826 (DNB).

DECEMBER

1824

253

Ld Bathurst agreed to give ÂŁ70 a year for Eccles student at St Edmund's to be prepared for the Mission under Dr Buckley. He was satisfied with Dr Slater's letter. Packet from Nuncio at Paris with a letter for Lyons sent back by French Ambass's mail. December 8 I blessed the new corner stone for the addition to Chelsea Chapel. 559 A large packet from Mgr Plessis to be sent to Rom, enclosing a letter for me & one for Dr Gradwell , sent. Letter to Rome for Dr Plessis' affair. December 9 Licentia Missam celebrandi ad 3 menses Revd Dno Paulo McQuade in Hibernia nato [Permission to say Mass for 3 months to Rev Paul McQuade a native of Ireland]. December 12 All faculties & permission to perform any eccles. function in the London District cease entirely to Mr Vergy. December 13 I wrote to Dr Buckley. Packet from Propa: letter to Bp Buckley, sent the 15th, & to Archbp Raphael Umpierres in Macao, Revd Dno Kenrick, Bardstown, two to me, one about Quebec, another about Dr Slater. I wrote to Dr Fenwick sending letter from Madrid. December 14 Wrote to Prop a about Dr Buckley. December 15 I received a letter from Dr O'Conor & wrote to Dr Fletcher to go to see him. December 16 Mr White appointed for the clothing of Miss Mary Heyburn at Winchester.

559

The original Chelsea Chapel had been opened by Bishop Poynter on 29 June 1812.

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December 17 Wrote to Dr Marsh for Property Doway. I wrote to Dr Gradwell about Quebec etc. for Prop. December 21 Letter from Mgr Rosati, St Mary's Seminary, Perry, Missouri State, with letter to Card. Somalia, for Prop. December 27 Facultates Dno Em Pitau pro Hisp ad 6 menses [Faculties for 6 months to Dom Pitau for the Spanish] . Letter from Bp d'Alcantara from Bombay induding two to Card Somalia. December 28 I saw Mr W . Horton. Ld Bathurst does not consent to Mgr L'Artigues being Ordinary at Montreal. Packet from Propa with letter to Dr Slater, Plessis Quebec, MacEachern Prince Edward Island, Marechal Baltimore. Rev Nic Norman (Moor Fields) facultas Gallis concedi solita ad finem 1825. Licentia binandi Dno Voyaux ad 3 menses [/ have granted the faculty accustomed to be granted to the French to Rev Norman to minister to the French until end of 1825. To Abbe Voyaux to binate for 6 months]. Mr Ferdinand Benedictine at Sawston. 560 Leave to duplicate at Waltans for 6 months. December 29 FacuItates Dno Tyrrell prorogantes ad revocationem, et licentia binandi ad finem Junii [Faculties to Rev. Tyrrell until revoked, and licence to binate until end of June]. I wrote to Lord Bathurst. December 30 Facultates Dno Bernard apud Witham Place prorogatae ad finem 1825 . Facultates prorogatae Dno Conespel ad finem Jan 1826 [The faculties of Rev. Bernard of Witham Place are extended to the end of 1825. Those of Mr Conespel to the end of Jan 1826]. Packet from Rome: Conolly New York, Mareschal Baltimore, Conwell Philadelphia.

560

The Benedictines served the cbapel at Sawston Hall from 1824-6.

DECEMBER

1824

255

December 31 A letter from Mr de Ridder about Trinidad Missions, Is 4d. Another from Mr Kerr, 2s 8d. I sent to Propaganda the accounts of letters.

End of the Diaries

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INDEX OF PEOPLE Page spans indicate mentions on each page, rather than unbroken discussion. Some names are undifferentiated in the diaries, leading to confusion regarding identities and titles. Such names are indexed as given in the text.

Abbate, Gaspari de 234, 247 Abbott, M 247 Abbott, Mrs 201 A'Court, Sir W. 239 Acton, Lord 247 Adamson, Rev. 244 Addis, Rev. Joseph 171 Adelmann, Rev. George Michael 99 Aire, Bishop of 60, 67, 71 , 115 Aitchison, Mst. William 172 Alb ani , Cardinal Giuseppe 32, 33, 37, 44 Alberry, Mrs 188 Albery, Richard 151, 153, 208 Aldani, Professor 160 Alexander 204 Alexius, Bishop of Sees 218 Amhurst, Mr 201 Angelo, Martha 179 Angelo, Mr 103 Angelo, Prior, St Joseph Mariano 239 Angouleme, Bishop of 11 Angouleme, Duchess of 120 Ansell, Mr 159 Anson, Rev. Joseph 215, 216 Antoine, Dom 64 Antomarchi, Dr 167 Appizzoni, Cardinal 38, 48, 94 see also Oppizzoni, Cardinal Archangelo, Pere 34-6, 39, 40, 41,65 Archer, Dr James 60, 74, 82, 86, 87, 89, 98-100, 104, 109, 119, 130, 132, 141, 166, 168, 181, 195,202,210,211,213,217, 221

Argyle, Matthew 108 ArIes, Archbishop of 124 Armstrong, Rev. 209 Arquis, Mr 246 Arras, Bishop of 227 Arrighi, Rev. Xantus 238, 244, 247, 250 Arundel, Lord 71, 97, 102, 191, 193, 202 Ash, Mr 213 Ashe, Trevor Lloyd 218 Ashton, Anna Marie 130 Ashton, M. Severing, Mr 130 Ashton, Mary 131 Ashton, Mrs 131 Aske, Francis 237 Aston, Mrs 88, 91 Astros (d' Asteros, D' Astros), Abbe Paul (later Bishop of Bayonne) 78, 122, 134, 136, 216 Atkinson, Mr 69 Aubert, Mrs 102 Aubrey, Rev. Antony 71 Augustina, Rev. Francesco 172 Augustine, Dom, Abbot of La Trappe 64 Aumont, Duc d' 134 Austria, Grand Duke John of 51, 52 Avery, Rev. F. 182 Avinni, Francesco 45 Avolas, Chevalier d' 147 Ayles, Miss 186 Ayles, Mrs Ellen 208 Ay lett, Mrs 196 261

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B, Mr see Bramston, Rev. James Yorke (later V.A.) Bachelor, Mr 218 Bafecque, Countess de la 61 Baggs, Charles 224, 239 Bailey, Mr 177 Bailey, Mrs 199 Bailly, Mr 151 Baines, Mr 228 Baldacconi, Dom Angelo 243 Baldelli, Cardinal 45 Baldelli, Count and Countess 27 Baradere, Abbe 231 Barber, Lord 106 Barber, Rev. 66, 68, 99, 150, 152-3, 178, 179, 181, 196,222 Barclay, Sir Robert 127 Barker, Mr 107 Barnard, Mr 207 Barnes, Dr 233 Barnes, Mrs 149 Barrett and Co 90 Barrett, Mr Bryant 76- 8 Barrow, Messrs 215 Barry, Major 127 Batchelor family 183 Bathurst, Lord 7, 45, 70, 81, 89, 93, 94, 101, 108, 139, 140, 143, 159, 161, 181, 185, 186, 190, 191, 197, 202, 210, 211, 218, 222, 252-4 Bayly, Mrs 148, 156, 157, 162 Bayonne, Bishop of 221 Beaulieu, Mr 129, 130, 210 Beaumone, Rev. 194 Beaumont, Rev. Joseph 222, 236 Beaver, Miss 90 Becker, Mr 99 Bedford, Duke of 30, 32 Belasius, Mr 243 Belgium, King of 56, 57 Bell, John 201 Bellisant, Mst. 142 Bellow, Sir Edward 112

Bennett, John Richard 244 Bentinck, Lady 27, 46 Bentinck, Lord William 13 27 30, 32, 47, 48, 50, 116 ' , Bequet, Abbe 73 Bernaben, Rev. Anthony 251 Bernard, Rev. 195, 254 Berry, Due de 120 Berry, Duchess de 120 Berry, Rev. 90, 115 Bertaux, Abbe 117 Bertelli, Fra 214 Berthous, Mr 113 Bertouin, Abbe 165 Bertozzoli, Mr 230 Besan90n, (Arch)bishop of 110, 113, 114, 116, 11 7, 127, 130, 136 Bethmann, Messrs 55 Beville, H. Thomas 202 Bew, Rev. John 75, 82, 83, 85, 86,88,99- 104, 106, 107, 135, 157, 177 Beziers, Bishop of 124, 136 Bialy, Mr 116 Biddulph, Mr 100, 107 Bigg, Mr 146 Bight, Mr H 94 Billington, Mr 84-5, 146 Bingham, Lady Georgina 208 Birch, Mr 106, 151, 189 Birdsall, Cottam 143 Bishop, Mrs 214 Blacker, Mr 168, 169 Blaise, Abbe 59 Blake, Mr 67, 163, 200, 201, 202 Blanchard, Abbe 11, 107 Blois, Bishop of 195, 196 Bloodworth, Thomas 41 Blount family 1 Blount, Mr 115, 118 Blount, Sir Edward 38, 39 Bolingbroke, Lord 125 Bombay, Vicar General 223

INDEX OF PEOPLE

Bonatelli, Mgr 230 Bonavista, Abbe 167 Bonavita, Mgr 173 Bonelli, Mr 61, 69, 204 Booker, William 87, 167 Borgo, Mr 26 Boswell, Mr 141 Botticelli, Fr 132, 147 Bouche des Marais, Abbe 82 Boudet, Rev. 209 Boudon, Mr 161 Bourke, Luke 205 Bourke, Michael 187 Bourke, Rev. 193' Bowden, Mr 86, 88 Bowenen, Thomas 223 Bowlan, Rev. John Francis 60 Bowland, Rev. 205, 245 Bowles, Mr 192 Boyer, President of Haiti 231, 232, 241, 247 Boyle, Mr 125 Bramston, Rev. James Yorke (later VA.) 6,8, 12-14, 17, 18, 29,31,33- 5,51-5,57,60,64, 65, 76, 77, 79, 82-7, 89-93, 95, 100, 104, 107, 108, 111, 114-16, 121, 127, 129, 133, 136, 141, 142, 146, 148, 149, 154, 156, 158, 159, 171, 173, 178, 179, 180, 183, 186, 187, 190, 192, 193,201, 202, 207, 213,217,219,230,237,238, 240, 252 Brancadoro, Cardinal 30, 32, 38, 39, 42, 47-9, 94 Braschi, Cardinal 31, 35, 49 Brennan, Rev. Pat 99-100, 144, 182 Brian, Mr 186 Brickley, Pat 63, 84 Bridge, Mr 236 Brien, Dr 102 Brier, John 164 Briere, Mr 197

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Brockholes, Mr 132 Broderick, Richard 63 , 72, 74, 85, 89, 99, 100, 102, 114, 115, 118, 126, 127, 131, 141, 157, 202 Brogan, Mr 239 Brooch, Abbe de 141 Brook, Miss 71 Brooke, Rev. Charles 137 Brosius, Mr L 69 Broughan, Mr 91 Brown and Goldbed 90 Brown, Mr 68, 100, 168, 170, 249 Brownlow, Lord 32, 33, 38 Brunet, Ann Angelica 218 Bryan, Mst. 154 Buckley, Bishop 101, 106, 124, 130,131, 161, 171,179, 181, 187, 188, 193, 197, 199, 200, 203, 204, 218, 221-3, 237, 241, 242, 244, 245, 248-50, 253 Buckley, Rev. J. 196 Buffet, Abbe Louis 162, 222 Bugden, Mst. 206 Buifron, Mr 206 Bulbeck, John 4, 5 Bullock, Rev. 113, 142 Bunce, Mr 225 Bunery, Mary Teresa 103 Burke, Dr 202 Burke, Lady 231 Burke, Peggy 74 Burke, Rose 152 Burnavita, Abbe 180 B urton, Adam 222 Buthomier, Rev. 152, 172, 173 Butler, Charles 23, 161, 163, 169, 173, 205, 206, 212 Butler, Charles (Paignton) 182 Butler, Messrs 174, 182, 195, 250 Butler, Miss 107 Byron, Mr 227

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Caestryck, Fr Charles (Crestrick) 216 Cain, Mr 245 Callaghan, Barry 75, 124 Callaghan, Mr (solicitor) 190, 194, 197, 198, 207, 210, 231, 233 Calvo et Dominquez, Joachim a 252 Cameron, Bishop 58, 76, 77, 79, 82, 88, 90, 91, 93, 105, 188, 189, 218 Camions, Bishop 147 Campbell, Abbe 39 Campbell, Mr 46, 72, 147 Canning, George (M.P.) 226 Capagnan, Rev. 98 Capagneau, Mr 145 Capellani, Antoine 173 Capelleti, Mgr, 44 Caprano, Bishop 235, 248 Caps, Mr 140 Caracciolo (Carriaculo), Cardinal 47 Caraffa 34 Carbery, Rev. Thomas 189 Carelli, Cardinal 49 Carey, Miss 66 Carissant, Mr 66 Carleton, James 214 Carmel, Luis da Santa Anna 175 Carmolli, Mr 167 Caroole, Mr 224 Carpue, Rev. Joseph 60, 74, 89, 162, 179, 181, 188,202 Carr, Sir Richard 154 Carr, William 91, 219 Carroll, Lord 206 Carroll, Rev. 197, 198, 208, 215, 218,227 Carroll, William 246 Carron, Abbe 66, 111, 113, 122, 128, 203, 252 Carrounine, Miss 66

Cary, Mr 65 Caryll family 1 Casque, Rev. Joseph 233 Cassagneau, Abbe Jacques 81, 82 Castlereagh, Lord 14, 58, 59, 133, 136, 139, 159, 160, 162, 175, 176, 200, 203 Cauler, (Caulier) Mrs 205 Cauvine, Rev. 143 Cavil, David 246 Cawsdale, Mr 88 Cesare, Mr 214 Chabot, Abbe 159, 186, 244 Challoner, Bishop 2, 3 Chaloner, John 235 Chamberlayne, George 41, 194 Chapman, Mr 145, 146, 164 Chapon, Mr 183 Chardon, Rev. 149 Chartres, Bishop of 110, 111, 114, 116, 117, 119, 120, 130, 133, 135, 136 Chatirait, Mr 135 Chaumont, Abbe 113, 128, 129 Chene, Abbe 81, 82, 129, 132, 138, 148, 149, 156, 188, 224, 237 Cherbough, Mr 168 Cherollais, Mr 217 Chevrollais, Abbe Fran~ois 105 Chisholm, Bishop 82, 99 Christopher, Mr 199 Chumley, Mrs 85 Cicala, Raphael 169 Cicciaporci, Chevalier 27, 45 Clarke, John 102, 166, 177, 184, 246 Clarke, Mrs T. 86 Clavering, Mr 145, 168 Clement, Abbe 225 Clifford, Dr 102 Clifford, Lord 140, 141, 168, 169, 170, 181, 185 Clifford, Mr 34, 38, 40, 91, 184

INDEX OF PEOPLE

Clifford, Mr Rob 65 Clofie, Mr 205 Cochet, Mr 89, 90 Cochin, Gabriel 113, 115, 117-18, 131, 149 Cocker, Abbe 99 Collier, Mrs 90 Collingridge, Bishop Peter Bernardine 9, 13, 39, 43, 58, 64, 82, 86, 88, 89, 91, 93, 95, 99-101, 103, 104, 137, 148, 150, 152, 164, 167, 169, 172, 181, 201, 217, 219, 221 Collins, Rev. 169, 188, 242 Colmo, Mr 169 Comberbach, Rev. Charles 236 Comfiers, Messrs 176 Conceyl, Dom 219,221 Conergh, Abbe de 219 Conespel, Rev. 254 Congron, Mr 59 Connelly, Bishop John 35 Connor, William 102 Conolly, Bishop 35, 61 Conolly, D. (New York) 214, 250,254 Conolly, Dr 29, 33, 58, 181, 235 Conolly, Mr (Tasmania) 252 Conolly, Rev. Philip 187, 213, 233 Consalvi, Cardinal 14, 35, 39, 41, 42, 63, 72, 84, 94, 101, 106, 119, 132, 150, 170,207, 210, 216, 226-8, 230, 235, 236 Constable, Mrs 196 Constalnus, Suchias 104 Conway, Mr 61, 107, 140 Conwell, Bishop Henry 210, 212, 223, 224, 230, 234, 235, 237, 248, 251, 254 Conyngham, Lord 121, 122 Cooke, Mr 42, 43 Coombes, Rev. William 90, 106, 192

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Cooper, Mr John 134, 169 Coote, Mr 233 Cope, Mr 178 Copeland, James 224 Copeland, John 250 Copping, Mr 197 Coppinger, Bishop William 165, 202, 246 Coquet, Mr 95 Corcoran, Bishop Michael 100 Corcoran, Mrs 224, 250 Corelli 32 Corfino, Archbishop of 32 Corminau, Mr 61 Comthwaite, Fr Richard 2, 206 Corr, Mr 107 Cossangan, Rev. 141 Costigan, Mr Thomas 68, 93, 104, 106, 107, 142, 175, 177, 186, 194, 197, 215, 216 Cottineau, Rev. Denis Louis 90, 102, 103, 107, 113 Cotton family 1 Couch, Mr and Mrs 242 Coupert, Contesse de 115 Courai, Mr 67 Coutts, Messrs 231 Cox, Dr 247 Cox, Mst. 185 Cranford, Mr 205 Croix, Mr la 215 Croker, Mr 59 Cronin, George 191 Crosbie, Mr 134 Crosby, Richard 151, 188 Crowden, Mr 166 Crumps, Mr 237 Cubert, John Baptist 105 Cullen, Robert 60, 78, 79, 155, 170,247 Cundel, Mr 88 Cuneo, Fr Fidelis da 233 Cunes, Fr J oa Fidele da 74 Cunningham, Lord 33

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Cuore di Gesu, Giuseppe Ignatio del 237 Curtis, Rev. Patrick 114, 118, 124, 126, 127, 129, 130, 132, 168, 170, 200, 208, 216, 217, 218 Cuthbert, John B. 237, 239 D

Dabough, Peter 215 Dagnani, Cardinal Antony 30, 33, 47 d' Alcantara, Bishop Pietro 182, 193, 224, 236, 241, 247, 254 Dalton, Mr and Mrs 142 Daly, Mr 148 Damiani, Mr 135 Daniel, John (Fitzpatrick) 224, 227 Daniel, Mr (Deacon) 68 Daniel, Mr (Paris) 229 Daniel, Rev. Joseph L. 68, 77, 78, 88, 92, 98, 116, 123, 129, 131, 162, 168, 173, 174, 177, 197, 233 Daniel, Robert Joseph 124 Daniels, Mr 191 Danneret, Mr 90 Dannery, Rev. J. 86, 93, 95, 99, 104, 105, 143, 171, 198 Dannet, Mr 99 Danneville, Rev. Aubin 102, 152, 163, 176, 195, 196,234, 243 Darcy, Charles 246 D' Artois, Mgr 132 Davenport, Mr 33 David, Mr 72 Davies, Mr 86 Davis, Richard 213 Dawes, Rev. 191 Daylis, Mr 250 De Gazes, Mr 163 De la Croix, 1. 224 de la Pate, Abbe 240

de la Porte, Bishop 176, 211, 224, 230, 245, 246, 247 de la Rue, Mr 62, 108, 145, 149, 160, 178-9 Dean, Mr 106 Deane, Mr L. T. 68 Deehy, Joseph 101 Deighton, Lord 106 Delaney, Mr M. M. 85 Delaney, Rev. 62, 83, 84, 97, 106, 141, 205 Deplang, Mr 98 des Bayt, Bishop Ignazio 171 Desforges, Mr 195 Desjardins, Mr 123, 126-7, 128, 130, 136, 233 Desmarque, Mr 179 Desombres, Mr 251, 252 Desorville, Mr 86 Destables, Abbe 140 Devereux, Mr 63, 205, 250 Devoti, Archbishop 32, 36 Dickinson, Mr 181 Dion, Louis Charles de 231 Dios-Santos, Rev. Emmanuel 183, 192, 193 Dirta, Mrs 61 Dobson, Rev. Thomas 62, 65, 72, 131, 172, 199 Dodwell, Mr 32, 38, 108 Dombrin, Mr 227 Donoughmore, Lord 174, 200, 201 Doria, Mgr 30 Dormer family 1 Dormer, Lord 96, 103, 112, 145 Dorothy, Sister 62 Dorrell, Mr 61 Dossalls, Mr 57 Doughty, Miss 67 Douglass, Bishop 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11-12, 23, 156, 167, 190, 242 Douville, Mme La Marquise de 126 Dowell, Mr 143

267

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Doyle, Mr 151, 196, 240 Doy Ie, Rev. James 247 Doyle, Rt Rev. 224 Doyle, Sir John 188 Doyle, Thomas 166, 167, 169 Drummond, Mr 128 Dublin, Archbishop of 11 Dublin, Frances 214 Dubourg (Dubourgh), Bishop William 213, 234, 237, 242, 247 Dubuisson, Mr 190 Duclos, Abbe 127, 222 Ducoudray brothers 221 Dudley, Mrs 206 Duggan, Rev. Malachy 239 Duggan, Thomas 102 Duignan, Sister Clare 186 Duncan, Mr 75, 128 Dunn, Rev. James 252 Dunn, Rev. Joseph ('Daddy' Dunn) 137, 252 Dupont, John Louis 218, 222 Duras, Duchess de 231 Duval, Mr 138

E Early, Mr 61, 62 Earn, Mr 164 Eastwood, Mr 183 Ebrington, Lord 35 Eccles, Mr 91, 129 Elergen, Mrs 125 Elliot, 1. 214 Enfield, Sir H. 206 England, Dr 237 England, Joan 250 Errington, Henry 194 Erskine, Cardinal Charles 151 Esnault, Rev. 70 Eustace, Rev. John Chetwode 29, 32, 33, 38, 41 Everard, Archbishop 73, 76, 77, 78, 79, 93, 96, 106

Evreux, Bishop of 231 Ewart, Thomas 63 Eyelarer, Rev. Joachim 248, 251 Eyre, Lady Mary 223 Eyston family 1 Eyston, Mr Charles 61, 100

F Fagan, Mr 59 Fains, Mrs 138 Falkner, Fr Ralph 2 Farfan, Mr 105 Farquahar, Governor (Mauritius) 168 Farquharson, Mr 76, 98 Fauteuil, Mr 65 Fea, Avocato 40 Fenwick, Dr 253 Ferdinand, Rev. 254 Ferghusson, Mrs Elizabetha 138 Ferris, Dr Richard 110, 120, 127, 132, 133 Ferry, Mr 111 Feuillet, Abbe 148, 198 Fielder & Barchley 170 Fine, Mr 72 Fingal, Dr 102 Fingall, Lord 96, 106 Finniss, John 127 Fitzpatrick, J. (John Daniel) 224 Fitzpatrick, Mary 192 Fitzpatrick, William 177 Flaget, Dr 221, 249 Fleetwood, Mr 153 Fleetwood, Rev. James 238 Fletcher, Rev. John 97, 107, 189, 211, 213, 219, 253 Fleury, Rev. Jean Baptiste 99, 193 Flood, Francis 195 Flynn, Rev. 88 Foley, Ian 237 Fondrays 197 Fontana, Aloysio, Mr 169

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Fontana, Cardinal 32, 47, 161, 166, 171, 186, 189-91, 197, 199, 200, 202, 204, 210-12, 214, 216, 221, 222, 224 Fontbanque, Sir John de Grenier 215 Forde family 1 Foronage, Rev. 194 Forrester, Rev. Charles 138, 222 Fossombrone, Fra Eustachio da 74 Fox, Edward 189 Franca Netto, Jaymes Antonio de 250 France, King of 71, 120, 131, 134, 136, 163 France, Mr 68 Frederick, Rev. 209 Freland, Mr 186 French Ambassador (to Great Britain) 144 French, Dr 249 Front, Countess de 137, 138, 141 Frosine, Mgr 40 Fryer, Rev. William 73,74, 87, 89, 105, 157, 193, 202, 207, 238, 240 Furlong, Rev. Walter 60-3, 72 G

Gabrielli, Cardinal 30, 34, 49 Gaffney, Rev. 235 Galdino, Archbishop 239 Galeassi, Mgr 30, 32-4, 36, 40, 41, 43, 103 Galeffi, Cardinal Pierre-Frangois 29,31 Galleratti-Scotti, Cardinal 30, 49 Gandolphy, Rev. Peter 15, 41, 73, 82, 89, 90, 92-5, 97, 100, 101, 145, 157, 162, 168-71, 192, 204 Garry, Elveria 192 Gay, Mr 94

Gayar, Mgr 41 Gaynon, Rev. James 248 Geraldine, Mrs 102 Gerard, Mr 90 Gerard, Sir William 249 Gerardern, Mr 102 Gesbert, Mr 72 Gesu Maria, Fr Nicola di 241 Giarue, Archbishop Gregorio 163 Gibbons, Dr 100 Gibson, Bishop William 3, 5, 23, 37, 58, 82, 86, 88, 89, 91, 93, 95, 99, 100, 103, 104, 111, 115, 124, 127, 128, 130, 131, 133, 135, 137, 142, 146, 149, 150, 156, 168, 172 Giles, Rev. 107 Giles, Rev. James 178 Gillow, Mr 69, 103, 142, 175 Gillow, Mr G. 66 Gillow, Mr Joseph 144 Gillow, Mr (student) 153 Gillow, Mr (Ushaw) 60 Gillow, Rev. 66 Gillow, Rev. John 98 Gillow, Rev. Thomas 98, 107, 135, 140, 141, 145, 152, 154, 161 Gillow, Richard 66, 103 Girvering, Mr 141 Glover, Sarah (m. John Poynter) 3 Gnaut, Abbe Bonaventure 60 Godard, Rector 218 Godquin, Rev. 107 Goff, Mr 100 Gomez, Mr 208 Gondre, Abbe Jean Nicholas 142, 159 Gonidec, Abbe 141, 142 Gother, Rev. John 114 Goudin, Abbe 81 Gough, Rev. Thomas 178

269

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Goulburn, Mr 95, 109, 140, 165, 167 , 181, 206, 211, 212 Gowie, Mr 151 Gradiere, Rev. 173 Gradwell, Rev. Robert (later V.A.) 4, 17, 102, 108, 111, 112, 117-19, 124, 125, 128, 132, 134-7, 140, 143, 146-50, 154, 155, 157, 160-2, 164-8, 170- 6, 178, 180-3, 185- 92, 195-201, 203-5, 207-11, 213, 214, 216-23, 226, 227, 229, 230, 232, 233, 235, 236, 239, 241, 242, 246~8, 251 , 254 Grady, Mr 61 Grainger, Mr 69 Grand Almoner 77, 90, 191 Grant, Maria 179 Grant, Mr 128 Grant, Mr (M.P.) 200 Grattan, Mr 172, 173 Greaves, Mrs 165 Green, Stephen 41 Greenham, R. J. 98 Greenway, Mr 144, 151, 172, 177, 202 Gregorio, Mgr 30, 32, 35, 37, 39 Gremare, Rev. 142, 191, 216 Grenam, Mr Adrian 67 Gresille, Abbe 219 Gresle, Abbe 239 Grey, Lord 176 Griffith, Rev. John 72, 73, 126 Griffiths, Bishop Thomas (later V.A.) 7, 18, 62, 63, 81, 82, 90- 2, 107, 115, 118, 119, 127, 165, 182, 188, 189, 192, 193, 205,233 Griffiths, Mrs Mary 73 Griffiths, T. J. & M. 100 Grimaldo, Mr 66 Grimouville-Larchant, Rev. Charles 68, 164, 182, 193 Guildford, Lord 161 Guillonean, George 184

Guman, Mr G. 140 Gye, Mr 89, 91 H

H, Mr see Hodgson, Rev. Joseph, Vicar General Hadnett, Charles James 234 Hales, Lady 113 Hales, Sir Ed 245 Hall, John 142, 184 Hall, Mr 225 Halls, Mr 61 Hamill, Mr 147 Hamilton, Mr 133 Hamilton, Rev. 235 Handley and Lister (solicitors) 201 Hamahan, Rev. 209 Harding, Edmund 252 Harold, Rev. Patrick D. 235 Harrigan, Fr Joseph 213 Harrigan, Rev. 188 Harrington, Mary 192 Harris, Richard 151 Harting, Mr 183, 204 Hartley, Mr Peter 146, 147 Havard, Rev. Lewis 20, 90, 108, 134, 182, 187, 189, 191 , 218, 221 Hawke, J. 170 Haydon, Mr 86 Hayes, Mr 91, 178, 180 Hayes, Mr Michael 143 Hayes, Richard 176-7 Heal Mr 75 Healy, Mr 226,228 Hearne, John 246, 249 Heathcote, Edward 235 Hebert, Rev. 197 Heddedey, Mrs 146 Hendley, Thomas 201 Henrick, James 105 Henry, Mr 99 Heptonstall, Mr 153 Hervey, Lady 191

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Heyburn, Mary 253 Hicks, Miss 224 Hicks, Mr 208-9 Hill, James 105, 155 Hill, Mr 163 Hill, Mr John 102 Hill, Mrs 156, 163 Hippisley, Sir John Coxe 58, 93, 96, 106, 152, 165, 167, 169, 170,177,185 Hoadley, Bishop Benjamin 2 Hodgson, Mrs 99 Hodgson, Mst. 199 Hodgson, Rev. Joseph, Vicar General 17,39,41-3,51,57, 60-3, 65, 76-9, 82, 85, 90, 94, 97, 105, 109, 110, 112-15, 117-19, 121, 122, 125-7, 12935, 138, 148, 179, 181, 184, 191,217,250 Hodstock, J 217 Hogan, Rev. William 247 Holdstock, James 219 Holland, Lord 33, 34, 106 Homer, Rev. 139, 147 Honywood, Mr 184 Hood, Mr 33 Horden, Charles 196 Horner, Philip 177 Horrabin, Rev. Richard 61-3, 75, 118, 134, 142, 164, 168, 176, 199,206-7, 234,247 Horton, Mr W. 254 Hoskins, Mr 153 Hotchkis, Mr 114 Houp, Abbe 81 Howard, Rev. 154 Huddleston, Lady 240 Hue, Rev. Augustus 105 Humphrey, Mr 219 Humphreys, Mr 206 Hunt, Mr 94, 98, 99, 100, 133, 138,167,173,174,179,181, 193, 202, 207, 210 Hunt, Mr (senior) 182

Hunt, Rev. Joseph 180, 184, 209 Hunt, Rev. W 200 Hunter, Mr 229 Hurst 199 Hursy, Mr 159 Hutchinson, John 69 Hutchinson, Lord 200 Hutchinson, Mary 138 Hutchison, John 166, 219 I

llsley (Isley), Mr 181 , 225 Inginae, R. 249 Ingo, Mr 69 Irving, Mr 151 , 155, 174, 175, 178, 186 Irwin, Mr 99

J Jacconci 33, 37, 40, 42 James, Martin 199 James, Mrs 62 Janson, Abbe 230 Jardins, Abbe des 111 Jarrett, Mr 103, 106, 222 Jassoni, Mgr 36 Javeret, Abbe 211 Jemmette 58 Jennings, Rev. D. 69 Jerningham, Edward 51 , 58, 69, 83, 84, 98, 137, 178,200, 201, 203 Jerusalem, Archbishop of 166 Jey, Mr 72 Johnson, Alex 168 Jolly, Rev. 130 Jones, Miss 135 Jones, Mr 59, 75, 82, 89, 106, 124, 148, 165-7, 173, 184, 188 Jones, Mr John 60 Jones, Mr (of Broons) 149 Jones, Mr (Pontop) 91 Jones, Rev. John 180 Jordan, Mr 70

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Joseph, D. 218 Joseph, Mr Henry Cary 67 Jourdan, Mr 77 K

Kavanagh, Mr 147 Kavanagh, Mr (student) 153 Kearns, Rev. John 151, 153,241 Keating, Colonel 127-9 Keating, Mr George (printer) 59, 64, 92, 93, 95, 138, 148, 157 189, 196 ' Keatings, Misse 103 Kelly, Bishop 246, 249 Kelly, Patrick 225 Kelly, Richard 166, 184 194 218 ' , Kendal, Richard 146 Kenelly, Mr 147 Kenrick, Rev. 253 Kerr, Mr 255 Kersy, Rev. 238 Kiel, Rev. 195 Kiernan, Miss 115, 117 Kiernan, Mr 77, 89, 140 163 177 ' , Killeen, Lord 106 Kimbell, Rev. Joseph 19, 53, 54, 61, 66, 69, 72, 73, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 127, 141, 157, 160, 181, 186,219,227,228 233 King, Mr 179, 180,207,237 King, Mr (student) 239 Kirgelin (Kerquellen), Abbe 198 Kirk, Rev. John 88, 104, 150, 165, 170 Kite, Mrs 144 Knapp farnil y 2-3 Knapp, James 67, 153, 247 L

La Rue, Mr 140, 143 La Tille, Mr 94 La Trappe, Abbot of 23, 34

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La Tuile, Mr 114 Lacon, Sebastian de 210 Laine, Abbe 149, 156 Laine (Fr Minister of Interior) 114-18, 120, 121, 123, 126 128, 130-2 ' Lambert, Mr 137 L' Arne, Abbe 210 Lan<;on 112, 116 Lande, Mr 107 Landgdale, Charlotte Ann 170 Lane, Mr 87, 166 Lane, Mrs 96, 188 Lang, Mr 249 Langan, Mr 239 Langlois, Rev. 71, 139-41 Langrenais, Charles see Langreney, Abbe Charles Langreney, Abbe Charles 59 68 83, 84, 102, 103, 108, 158: ' 185, 186, 196 Langworth, Mr 60 Larne, Mr Peter 184, 217, 221 Lartigue, Bishop Jean Jacques 187, 206, 21~ 221, 223 235 254 ' , Latil 139 Latille see Chartres, Bishop of Lavant, Thomas 237 Law, Rev. John 62, 104 141 185 ' , Lawrence, Sir H. 172 Lawson, Rev. 66, 130, 133 Le Blanche, Mr 162 Le Brigout, Cardinal 154 Le Chevallier, Abbe Charles Gabriel 85 Le Clerc, Mr 169 Le Couffle, Mr 149 Le Gris, Mr 127 Le Tebore, Rev. 218 Le Tellier, Rev. Pierre 107 138 140, 149, 159 " Le Telling, Mr 107 Learsley, Miss Harriet 214

272

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Lebzeltern, C. 161 Lee, Christopher J. 92 Lee, Elizabeth Hollington 70 Lee, Joseph 238 Lee, Rev. John 64, 144, 187, 189, 201, 204-6, 247 Lefebre, Mr 88, 90 Legate, Rev. l40 Leger, Mr 51, 52 Leghorn (Livorno), Bishop of 235 Legier 140 Lejeais, Mr 141 Lemfrid, Mr 143 Leo XII 234, 252 Leon, Mr 181 Leonard, Rt Rev. Jacques 124 Leper, Mr 165 Lesher, Joseph 96 Lewigi (Lavigne), Fr 223, 225 Limousin, Abbe Mathurin 75 Lingard, Rev. John 18, 87-95, 100, 103, 104, 150, 202, 213 Lissom, Rt Rev. MacDonald 249 Litta, Cardinal 13, 15, 23-5, 29-39, 41-4, 46-50, 58, 59, 64, 68, 84, 88, 92-7, 100, 107, 109, 124, 125, 131, 133, 137, 138, 140, 150, 154 Little, Mst. 198 Liverpool, Lord 15n, 58, 59, 175 Lloyd, Mr 33 L'Olivier, Mr M.e. 241 Long, Rev. Paul 76, 77, 78, 109-10, 111, 114, 123, 13 5 Long, Thomas 164-5 Longhoran, Mst. 223 Longsdale, Mr 88 Longue, Mr 196 Longuemare, Rev. 160 Longuet, Mr 88, 91, 96, 97, 104, 107 Loquet, Mr 100 Lorenzo, Dom 36 Lorneau, Abbe de la 83

Lorrimer, Rev. 196 Lorrymer, Dom Anselm 233 Loughnan, Mr 70 Loughran, Mr 61 Lowe, Thomas 235 Luburn, Mr 166 Lucan, Lord 47 Lucerne, Cardinal de la 114 Luddy, James 166 Luigi, Padre Gio di SAnna 174 Lupton, John 177 Lussan, Julian, Mr 171 Luyorne, Cardinal 103 Lynch, Mrs Margaretta 116, 138 M M, Dr, Mgr or Mr see Milner, Bishop John MacCallister 169 MacCartan, Dr 125 Macchi, Mr 101, 238,240,241 MacCor, Matron 90 MacDermot, Miss 66 MacDonald, (Mc Donnell) Rev. 81 MacDonald, Mr 33 MacDonald, Mr James 188 MacDonald, Rev. G. 66 MacDonnell, Mr 61 MacDonnell, Rev. Alexander 41, 252 MacDonnell, Rev. Charles 70, 71, 74, 89, 148, 161, 188 MacDonnell, Rev. Dan 205 MacEachern, Dr Aeneas 249, 251, 254 Macey, Antony 1. 171 Macheal, Mark 238 Machias, Abbe 72 Macioni, Cardinal 89 Mackenzie, Mr 106, 115, 116, 118, 121, 125, 126, 128, 129, 131, 133, 135, 136, 162,223 Mackneal, Mrs 150 MacLuson, Mr 102

INDEX OF PEOPLE

Macpherson, Rev. Paul 12, 13, 17,29, 31, 35, 37,41-2,53, 63-5, 72, 74, 82, 86-9, 91, 92, 95-8, 100-2, 106-8, 112, 174, 185, 189 MacSand, Mr 154 Madgurith and Cooper 97 Madrano, Alphonso 233 Magauran, Thomas 246 Magee, Mst. Anthony 154 Magehuan, Mr 91 Maguire, Dr 202 Maguire, John 219, 246 Mahey, Thomas '186-7 Mahieu, Mr 229 Mahon, Mr 230 Maitland, Sir Thomas 202 Maliel, Dom 64 Malpas, Lord 48, 49,55 Manser, Mr 169 MaraseaI, Michael 217 Marchand, Mr L. 153 Marchand, Rev. T Le 86, 99 Marchini, Rev. John Baptist 65, 89, 169, 188, 194, 195, 204, 205 Mardough, Mrs M. 86 Mareschal (Marechal), Ambrose, Archbishop of Baltimore 141, 170, 175, 176, 179, 180, 188, 189, 199, 207, 209, 214, 216, 22~ 22~ 224, 230, 231, 236, 237, 241, 248, 250-2, 254 Marest, Rev. 88, 103 Marlin, Abbe 214 Marial, Abbe 215 Marigniez, Mr 195 Marland, Mr 141 MarIes, Rev. 104 Marsh, Mr 113, 147, 208, 254 Marsland, Rev. John 66 Martia, M. A. 96 Martin, Mr 103 Mason, Mr 146 Massey, Mr 101

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Massot, Pierre Alexis 174 Mathias, Dorn 81, 138, 159, 162 Mattai, Cardinal 47, 49 Mauri, Mgr 30, 34, 39, 41, 42, 43,47-50 Maxula, Bishop of 125-7 Maxwell, James 105 Maxwell, Mr 141 Maxwell, P. 104 Mayaheron, Mr 94 Mayelerson, Mr 87 Mayot, Mr 231 Mays, Dr 219 Mayshern, Mr 106 McCartan, Dr 115 McCarthy, Governor 231 McCarthy, Matitia 240 McCarthy, Miss Helen 217 McCarthy, Mr 75 McCarthy, Mr Dennis 147, 245 McCarthy, Mst. 195 McCawley, Abbe 216 McDonald, Norman 243 McDonnell, Dr 219 McDonnell, John 207 McDonnell, Mr C 93, 101, 118, 148, 165 McEntee, Bernard 240 McGee, Mr 236 McGrath, Rev. 218 McGregor, Gregor 215 McKenzie, Mr 127 McQuade, Rev. Paul 253 Meany, Rev. John 228, 234, 240 Meath, Mr 127 Melfort, Abbe Duc de 205 Mellish, Mr 147, 149 Merinville, Abbe 137, 138 Merle and Sons 204 Meseques, Rev. Franco 242, 243 Metcalf, Theo 195 Mexico, Archbishop of 225 Mignoret, Abbe 83, 195 Miher, Rev. 218

274

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Milner, Bishop John 8, 9, 10-12, 15, 20, 23-4, 30-1, 38, 41, 44, 46, 47, 58, 64, 73, 74, 92, 142, 149, 162, 167, 172, 173, 189, 202, 211, 223 Minser, Mr 168 Mitchell, Mr 151 Molie, Mr Jean Pierre 154, 156, 158, 161, 209, 228 Molloy, Rev. Thomas 178-9 Monastere de la Visitation St Marie, Mother Superior 218 Monica, Sister 69 Montague, Mrs Wortley 198 Montblanc, Mgr de 152, 182 Montigny, Grandjean 199 Montmerency, Marquis of 230 Mooney, Rev. John Thomas 239 Moor, Mr 57 Moore, Mr 116, 138,235 Moore, Mrs 147 Moore, Rev. Patrick 245 Moralejo, Jos Maria 238 More, Miss 104 Morel, Mr 163, 184, 206, 216, 246 Morell, Mr 242 Morin, Michael 225 Moro, Mr 139 Morris, James 226 Morris, Mr 142 Morris, Rev. M. 164 Mortuaire, Abbe Jean Baptiste 159 Mosely, Mr 62 Mouchel, Abbe Joseph 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 143 Mourne, Mr 129, 130, 131, 132, 135 Mourt, Rev. 226 Mousel, Mr 191 Munt and Havis, Messrs 239 Murdock, Mr 250 Murphy, Dr 67 Murphy, John 241

Murphy, Mr 164 Murphy, Mrs 170 Murphy, Thomas 72 Murray, Archbishop 23, 64, 67, 84, 93, 96, 103, 118, 119, 121-6, 128-35 Muth, Abbe 149, 223 N

Nancy, Bishop of 113, 116 Naples, Archbishop of 42 Naples, King of 132 Napoleon 11 Navet, Abbe 227 Neal, Rev. Charles 230 Neale, James Thomas 247 Neale, Mr Henry 108 Neil, Miss Mary Ellen 180, 181, 225, 227 Neil, Rev. 81 Nerincks (Nerinckx), Rev. 68, 151, 156, 251 Neville, Charles 208 Newall, Nicholas 194 Newburgh, Lady 156, 187, 200 Newman, Mr (Architect) 242, 244 Newnham, Mr 122-3, 124, 125, 128, 136 Newport, Sir J, 200 Nichols, Mr 213 Norfolk, Duke of 98, 125, 139, 140, 142, 159, 165, 169, 184, 200-2 Norman, Rev. Nicholas 154, 254 Norris, Mr 58-61, 66, 70, 74, 75,91, 127, 138, 141, 176, 177, 185, 186, 196,202,225, 249 Norris, Mr Edmund 145 North, John 120 Nugent, Lord 166, 173, 199 Nuncio, Paris 233, 253

INDEX OF PEOPLE

o O'Brien, Dr 83, 84, 103, 105, 106, 214 O'Brien, James 102, 103 O'Brien, Mr 217 O'Brien, Rev. (Virginia) 217 O'Brien, Rev. W 217 O'Brien, William 194 O'Callaghan, David 185 O'Connell, Daniel 14, 68 O'Conor, Rev. Charles 48, 71 , 72, 127, 159, 253 O'Donnell, Sarah 184 O'Flynn, Rev. Jeremiah 84 O'Grady 71 O'Hara, Charles 245, 246 O'Leary, Dan 157, 166, 192, 194 O'Leary, James 82 O'Leary, Mr 168 O'Loughlin, Peter 190, 225 O'Mahoney, Count 120 O'Mara, Rev. John 214 O'Mealy, Rev. Thaddeus 209, 223-4 Oppizzoni, Cardinal 36 see also Appizzoni, Cardinal Orde, Mr 34, 38 O'Reilly, Rev. Philip 224 Orthosia, Bishop of 36 Ortiz, Felippe Padierne 243

p Pacca, Cardinal 25, 30, 32-5, 37, 39, 42, 43, 46, 48-50, 65 Page, Greg 184 Page, John 206 Paliasanus, Sergius 104 Pamphili, Cardinal Antonio Doria 32, 49 Pamphili, Cardinal Giuseppe Doria 32, 49 Parandier, Mr 112

275

Paris, Archbishop of 133, 210, 233,241 Parrninster, Mr 99 Parnell, Sir Henry 91, 96, 200 Paterson, Bishop 82, 99, 118, 121, 123-6, 128, 129, 132, 134, 136, 148-50 Patterson, Bishop Alexander 76 Payne, Mr 149 Peacock, Mr 157 Peacock, Mrs 154, 157 Peckham, Abbess 69 Pedicini (Peddecine) 163, 165 Pembroke, Lord 129 Pens wick, Bishop Thomas 236, 244 Percy, Mr 127, 141, 147, 161, 206, 210 Pericaud, Abbe Leonard 59, 82, 124 Perigord, Cardinal 119, 120, 147, 149, 155, 165, 189 Perrin, Abbe 251 Perron, Abbe 165 Petre, Lord 83, 90, 100, 163, 193,202 Philipps, Henry Stephen 209 Philipps, Mr 245 Philips, Mr 63 Philips, William 127 Phillimore, Joseph (M.P.) 200, 201, 206, 227, 240 Phillips, Rev. 90 Phillips, Rev. Maurus 166 Piard, Rev. de la 222 Piccolomini, Rev. 187, 188, 189 Picquot, Mr 73, 145 Pierrepont, Mr 227 Pietro (Pierto), Cardinal Michele di 30, 34, 36, 39, 43, 164, 185 Pignatelli, Cardinal 33 Pigott, Lieut G 108 Pilling, Mr 231 Pinte, Raphael Cicala 170 Pitarc, Rev. Emmanuel 242, 243

276

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Pitau, Dom 254 Pitt, William 5 Pius vn 1l, 31, 38,43- 5,47, 48, 50, 131n, 132, 137, 140, 147, 154, 157,216,226 Plaid, Mr 147 Planguais, Mr Thomas Marie 70, 95 Planta, Joseph 251 Plessis, Bishop Joseph 165, 184, 185, 187, 191, 197, 202, 205, 206, 210, 218, 220, 221, 223, 224, 235, 237, 238, 242, 251, 253,254 Plowden, Mr 125-6, 140, 141, 182, 188 Plunkett, Bishop 148, 149, 185 Plunkett, Hon. William 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 219 Plunkett, R. 106 Plunkett, Rev. George 148, 152 Poatticenelli (Fr Minister Tibet and Mongolia) 115 Polding, Dom Bede 6, 166 Polignac, Cardinal Jules 111 Polignac, Count Jules 103 Pollard, Mr 184 Poplar, Barber 252 Portuguese Ambassador 49, 159, 161, 162 Portuguese Minister 33, 44 Potier, Rev. Peter 71, 142, 149, 219, 220, 244 Powell, Mr Hugh 141, 157 Power, Catherine 195 Poynter, James (brother) 3, 207 Poynter, John (brother) 3 Poynter, John (father) 1 Poynter, William (nephew) 17, 181 Praniewiez, Father Charles 160 Pranval, Leonard Francis 117 Prendergast, Bishop 223, 247 Prendergast, D. 215 Preston, Mr 150

Priestly, Mr 161 Primord, Abbe 112 Prince Regent 161, 170, 175 Prussian Minister 48 Purbattel, Mr 196

Q Quarantotti, Mgr 24, 25, 32, 37, 43 Queen of Ituria (Etruria) 42 Quelan (Quelen), Abbe see Samorate, Bishop of Quin, Andrew 249 Quin, James 193 Quin, K. 190 Quinn, Rev. Patrick 249 R

Radford, John 166, 194, 215 Rament, Miss 64 Raphael, Mr 225, 240, 243 Rawe, Mr 164, 210, 214 Reading, Captain Henry 215 Reardon, Mr 167, 179,207,237 Reeke, John 196 Reve, Frederick 148, 244 Reynard, M. 88, 96, 97 Reynolds, Miss 154 Rheims, Archbishop of 103, 124 Richelieu, Duc de 76, 78, 110, 1l3, 114, 1l8, 128, 132 Richenet, Rev. Fran 60 Ricketts, Miss 168 Ricketts, Mr 198 Riddalph, Mr 138 Ridder, Francis Joseph de 21l, 221, 233, 255 Ridey, Schoolmaster 99 Riego, Mrs 243 Rigby, Dr 29, 39 Riley, Mr 59, 156, 158, 209 Riley, Mr (ordination) 68, 107 Riley, Mr William 184 Riley, Rev. Henry 150

INDEX OF PEOPLE

Riley, W. 150 Ring, John 208 Ring, Mst. M. 207 Ringe, Mr Thomas 62 Roath, Mr 207 Roberts, Fr William 147 Robertson, Mr 215 Robinson, Mr 181, 193 Robson, Joseph 205 Robson, Joseph George 90 Robson, Mark 241 Robson, Mr (student) 239 Rock, Daniel 151, 153, 234 Rodriguez, Mr A. 199 Rolfe, Rev. George 219, 250 Rolfe, Rev. John 64, 82-7,91, 92, 106, 115, 116, 119, 129, 135, 141, 143, 155, 156, 216, 218, 245 Rosati, Bishop Joseph 239, 242, 254 Rosetti, Carlo 169 Rosetti, Gio 174 Rossi, Mr 30 Rosslyn, Lord 139 Roughey, Mr 184 Rowland, Sam 184 Ruffo, Cardinal 30 Ruinart, Mrs 75 Rurnmins, Mr 145 Rush, Mr 180 Rush, Mr John 235 Russell, Rev. William 178 Ryan, Matthew 237 Ryan, Miss Joanna 188, 189

s S. Anna, Padre Gio Luigi, 170 Saddens, Joseph 166 Salmon, Rev. John 63, 83, 86, 91, 99, 103, 109, 150, 178, 180, 182, 188, 223-4 Saluzza, Cardinal 30, 34, 49 Salvatti, Bishop 205

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Salvietti, of Florence 45 Sarnlucy, Abbe 34 Samorate, Bishop of 110, 111, 119, 120, 122, 133, 135, 138 San Domingo, Archbishop of 247 San Pietro, Marquis and Marquise 177 Sanderson, Mr 181 Santarelli, Maria 237 Santher, Mr 141 Santry, Mr 186 Santucci, Dom Mariano 188 Sardinia, King of 192 Sardinian Ambassador 159 Savage, Joseph 227 Scallan, Rev. Thomas 170 Sciot, Rev. Bernard 195 Scomaille, Lord 170 Scombey, Mr 188 Scott, Dom Edward 105 Scott, Mr (Glasgow) 185 Scott, Philip 92 Scott, Rev. 103, 182, 184, 188, 215, 249 Selby, Mr Nicholas 156, 198, 241 Senez, Bishop of 44 Serjeant, Rev. John 67, 106, 166 Serra, Rev. Raphael 171-2 Sgambella, Frances 235 Sharples, James 153 Shaw, Rev. James 61, 63, 65 , 100, 202, 240 Sheehan, Rev. John 218 Sheldon, Messrs 115 Sheldon, Mr 116 Shelley family 1 Sherborne, Mr 231 Sherbourne, Mr 106 Sherrott family 72-4 Sherrott, 1. (Senior) 98 Shimpson, Rev. Charles 148 Short, Mr 84, 162

278

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Shrewsbury, Lord 179, 202 Sidden, Joseph 196, 209 Siddens, Joseph 151 Sidmouth, Lord 66, 81, 160, 170, 175, 176, 184, 213 Sidney, Mr Malo 72, 144 Signay, Joseph 186 Silveira, Joseph 101, 105, 109, 151 , 166, 167 Silveria, Mr 145 Silvertop, Mr 29, 30-5, 38, 43, 57, 201 Simon, Rev. 64, 81 Simon, Rev. L. 248 Singlefield, Sir H. 128 Singleton, Mr 169 Sisteron, Archbishop 111 Slater, Bishop Edward 57, 130, 131, 134, 140, 150, 163, 165, 167, 168, l70, 172, 174, 180, 185, 187, 188, 218, 254 Sleath, Rev. John 177 Smelt, Mr 43, 68 Smith and Carey 73 Smith, Bishop Thomas 93 , 99-101 , 105, 116, 118, 121, 130, 132-4, 146, 159, 164, 168, 175, 182, 187-90, 194, 201 , 203, 211, 216, 219, 223 , 236 Smith, Mr 82 Smith, Mr (M.P.) 227 Smith, Mrs Mary 163 Smith, Peter 185 Soden, Mr 146 Sogg, Mr 205 Soissons, Bishop of 240 Soley, Mr 238 Somaglia, Cardinal 19, 30-1 , 33, 39, 43 , 192, 254 Somers Cock, T.H. 205 Sone, John 5, 205 Southworth, Rev. Richard 97, 115, 153, 156, 157, 161, 181 Spain, King of 39, 51

Spain, Rev. George 61, 62, 102 Spanish Ambassador (to France) 129 Spanish Ambassador (to Great Britain) 139, 159, 179, 185 Spencer, Miss 128, 191, 229 Spina, Cardinal 47 Spooner, Rev. Samuel 219, 221 St Diniz, Bishop of 111 St Malo, Bishop of 111 St Martin, Mr 32 Stacey, John 233 Standish, Mr 38 Stanhope, Mr Spencer 115, 125 Staples, Mr James 68, 145, 174, 230, 236 Stapleton, Mr 91 , 108, 147, 188, 228 Stavin, Mrs 139 Stay, Mr 181 Stephens and Co. 88 Stewart, Fr James 233 Stewart, Henry 233 Stewart, Lady Lucy 244 Stewart, Mr 68-70, 160, 180, 230 Stewart, Mr Charles William 42, 62, 63 Stewart, Mr (Cherbourg) 233 Stewart, Rev. 106, 210 Stewart, Rev. Henry 61 Stewart, Rev. Thomas 198 Stewart, Sir Edward 34 Stokes, Mr 61 Stone, Rev. M 62 Stonor, Mr 101 Storey, Mr 88 Storey, Mrs 86 Stourton family 197 Stourton, Lord 58, 59, 95 , 98, 141, 143 Stourton, Sir George 225 Stuart, Catherine 177

279

INDEX OF PEOPLE

Stuart, Sir Charles 77, 110-13, 115, 116, 119-21, 124-6, 128-30, 133, 134, 136 Stubbes, Cuthbert 167, 174 Style, Anna, Camilla and Isabella 179 Sullivan, Mr 106 Sumner, Richard 107, 144, 148, 150, 169 Superior, Congregation of St Joseph 213, 214 Suwilli, Mr 214 T

Tabando, Mr 231, 244, 249 Talbot, Mr72, 89,177,181, 198 Tanner, James 148 Tasker 102 Taster, Mr 89 Taylor, Abbe 33, 35, 214 Taylor, Elizabeth 72 Taylor, K. 189 Taylor, Miss 99 Taylor, Mr 62 Tebore, Rev. 218 Testa, Mgr 32 Tharick, Dr Edmund 246 Thebault, Mr 141, 143 Thierry, Rev. 187, 249 Thorn, Mrs 64 Thompson, Mr G. 207 Thompson, Rev. Richard 101, 168, 173, 175, 178, 181,218, 240 Thop, Mr 73 Thornley, Mr 96 Throckmorton, Lady 193 Throckmorton, Sir John 58, 98, 142, 170 Tichborne, Lady 198 Tierney, Mr 109 Tierney, Mr Marc 146, 151, 174, 175, 185, 240 Tigh, Mrs 85

Tile, Abbe de la 76, 77 Tilt, Rev. 245 Todd family 3 Todd, Mary (mother) 1 Togg, Mr 142 Tolendal, Lally 117, 118 Toulouse, Archbishop of 113, 117, 136 Tours, Mr 148 Transievitch, Thomas 169 Trasinous, Abbe 135 Travers, Rev. 177, 195,229 Trelawney, Miss 178 Trelfall, Charles 152 Trevaux, Abbe de 11, 23 Treverne, Abbe Jean Le Pappe 125, 130, 137 Trevino, Fr Joseph Ignatius 235, 236 Tristram, Rev. Joseph 85 Troile, Mr 231 Troy, Dr, Archbishop of Dublin 58, 121, 131, 155, 156, 178, 209,214,217, 218, 249 Tucker, Mr 101 Tucker, Mrs 143 Tuite, Rev. Francis, Vicar General 17,63,73,77,78,80, 81, 89, 90, 92, 96, 103, 108, 113, 117, 126, 132, 137, 145, 148, 155, 156, 159, 162, 164, 165, 170, 172, 173, 182, 186, 191, 194,230,231,237,250 Tuohy, Dr 102 Turner, Mr 141 Turney, Mr (M.P.) 200 Turnville, Mr 119 Tyrrell, Rev. Peter 236

u Umpierres, Archbishop Raphael 169, 244, 247, 248, 253 Underhill, Mr 102 Usez, Bishop of 67, 71

280

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Vachell family 1 Van Morel and Van Neil, Messrs 211 Varley, Mr 89, 100, 162, 164, 169 Varling, Thomas 90 Vasselin, Dom 81 Vaughan, Mr 194 Veleru, Archbishop Peter 227 Vergere, Mr 224 Vergy, Rev. 244, 250, 253 Vern~, Abbe Etienne Ie 159 Veturino 45 Vick, Rev. 104 Villefane, Rev. Didaco 180 Vincenzo, Fr 242 Virriat, Mr 251 Vitiali, Dr 167 Voyaux, Abbe Jean Nicolas 84, 134, 173, 187, 213 Voze, George 163 W Wacherbath, Mrs 105 Walker, J. J. 85 Walmesley, Mat 97 Walmesley, Mrs 138 Walmesley, Mrs Catherine 97 , 103, 139 Walmesley, Robert 182 Walsh, Bishop 152, 182, 187 Walsh, Mr 103 Walsh, Rev. David 224 Walsh, Rev. Thomas 223 Walter, Mr J. 231 Walter, William 230 Ward, Hon. Mr 38 Ward, Mr 33, 36 Wareing, Mr 161 Waring, Mr 228 Warman, Robert 105 Waterton, Mrs 61 Waterton, Richard 92

Wates, Mr 196 Watkins, James 151, 166, 167, 169, 194 Watts, Susanna (m. James Poynter) 3 Webb, Sir Thomas 156 Webbe Weston, John 143 Webster, Mr 84, 88, 90, 91, 106, 152, 184 Webster, Mrs 191 Weld, James 214, 219 Weld, Mrs 218 Weld, Rev. Thomas (later Cardinal) 6, 31 , 113, 114, 118, 129, 132, 143, 155, 178 Wellinage, Elisa 250 Wellington, Duke of 120, 126, 127, 130, 136, 203 Welsh, John 166 Wendham, James 239 West, Thomas 205 Westinghaven, Mr 168 Weston, Mrs 244 Whaling, Mr 124 Wheeler, Mr 100 Whelan, John 150, 194 Whi tall , Dom 221 White, Mr 93, 141 , 155, 194 White, Mr (Liverpool) 206 White, Mr (Portsmouth) 209 Whi te, Mrs 102 White, Rev. John 68, 168, 189 White, Rev. Thomas 59, 171 , 188, 253 White, Richard 170 White, W. 205 Whitfield, Mr (Baltimore) 224 Whitfield, Rev. James 217 Whitwell, Daniel 166, 219, 221 , 244 Whitwell, Joseph 152 Whi twell, Mrs 244 Wilcock, Mr 147 Wild, Rev. Thomas 227

281

INDEX OF PEOPLE

Wilds, Mr William 60, 74, 89, 90, 94, 95, 97, 100, 141, 144, 179, 181, 187,202 Wilkinson, Charles 138 William (valet) 229, 230 Williams, Mr 216 Williams, Rev. J 217 Willock, Mr 206 Windham, George Marie 240 Windwood, Mr 107 Winstanley, Mrs 138 Winstanley, Rev. Edmund 131, 174, 193, 195 Wiseman, Rev. Nicholas (later Cardinal) 18, 153 Witham, Miss Dorothy 105 Witham, William 104 Wollett, Mr 103 Wood, Mr 69 Woodford, Duke of 34 Woodford, Sir Ralph 222 Woods, Mr 206 Woollett, Mr 105

Woollett, Mrs 72, 134 Woolman, Robert 232 Worey, Mr 164 Wright, John 200, 205 Wright, Messrs 190, 228, 231 Wright, Thomas 232 Wyndham, Mr 108 y

Yorke, Michael Henry 139 Young, Mr 214 Ypres, Archbishop of 116 Yrraizos, Rev. D. Barnabas 251

z Zambi, P. 242 Zelli, Archbishop of Florence 44 Zepphyria, Madame 170 Zino, John Baptist 251 Zizlar, Mr 143 Zurla, Cardinal Giacinta 247

INDEX OF ENGLISH MISSIONS/CHURCHES A

Acton 241 Aldermanbury 95, 140 Arundel 87

E East Hendred 63 East Lane Bermondsey 17, 103, 107, 143, 215, 216, 250

B Banbury 210 Bavarian Embassy Chapel see Warwick Street Bramston 99 Brighton 82, 141 , 154, 155, 157, 161, 247, 252 Brockhampton 2, 153, 157 Brompton and Chatham 17, 99, 109, 190, 223 , 252 Brook Green 139, 148, 160, 164, 179, 181, 191,204,210,211, 213- 15, 223, 224, 226 Burton 238

Finchley Common 160 Firby 59 G

German Chapel 96 Gosport 62, 86, 143, 153, 219, 227 Greenwich 63, 74, 106, 109, 177 H

Hales Place (Canterbury) 192 Hammersmith 17, 61 , 70, 142, 144, 201, 204-6, 225, 247 Hampstead 16, 75 , 104, 216 Harting 206, 227 Harvington Hall 206n Havant 208, 228 Haydock 70 Hendred 182, 240 Hinton 205 Holloway 160 Hornsea 160 Horsham 16, 183-4 Hoxton 245

Cale Hill 206, 210, 229 Camden Town 149 Carshalton 238 Chelmsford 163 Chelsea 16, 18, 84, 227, 253 Christchurch 143 Clapton 218 Cliff 75 Cotton 155 Cowes 228 Crondon Park 102, 163, 183

Kentish Town 160 King Street 149

D L

Dartford 17 Dover 67, 165, 182, 229 Down 61 Downside 66

Lambs Building 103 Lambs Conduit 17, 141 Langstone 2 283

284

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Lanherne 199 Lincoln's Inn Fields 17,73,84, 85, 140, 141, 161, 186, 225 London Road Chapel see St George's Fields Lulworth 23, 34 M

Mapledurham 88 Margate 215 Marnhull 164 Mitcham 98, 238 Moor Hale 90 Moorfields (St Mary's) 16, 61, 85, 95, 102, 138, 144, 148, 154, 161, 165-7, 171, 175, 189, 191, 199, 207, 209, 210, 213, 219, 221, 237, 240, 242, 244 Muddiford 143 N

New Hall 103, 139, 154, 174, 183, 186 New River 173 Newport (Isle of Wight) 228 Norwich 209

o Old Hall (St Edmund's College) 62, 86, 87, 96, 106, 145, 150, 151, 164, 225 , 226, 227

p Peckham 90, 107 Pilgrim's Hatch 183, 192 Polewell 249 Pontop 91 Poplar 17, 105, 142, 151, 153, 173, 198, 205, 252 Portsea 62, 141, 143, 145, 153, 160, 182

Portsmouth 228 Portugal (Portuguese) Chapel 141, 163, 165 R

Rainhill 238 Reading 88, 142, 158, 161, 206 Romsey 83, 145 Rotherhithe (Redriffe) 83, 84, 106, 177,216 S Sardinian Chapel 192, 229 Sawston 254 Sheerness 99, 192, 209, 223, 228, 238 Shefford 207, 244, 250 Sidmouth Street 82 Slindon 212 Smithfield 181 Snow Hill 88 Soberton 140, 141 Somers Town 17, 63, 65, 69, 81, 97, 148, 154, 174, 179, 203, 229, 239, 248, 249 South Audley Street (South Street) 82 Southampton 71, 108, 227, 228, 250 Spanish Chapel 15, 72, 145, 162, 163, 174, 198,208,224 Spanish Place 203, 217 St George's Fields 59, 65, 70, 82, 101, 144, 184, 190, 205, 215 St Martin's Church 192 St Patrick's 59, 61, 92, 156, 161, 199 Standon 189 Stock 228 Stonor Park 159 Stratford (London) 147, 245 Sutton Place 154, 155, 171, 227, 244

INDEX OF ENGLISH MISSIONS/CHURCHES

Temple Bar 164 Thomdon 82, 83, 89, 183, 193 Tottenham 17, 138, 195 V

Virginia Street 17,61 , 62, 63 , 72, 82-5, 88, 105, 134, 138, 142, 149, 155, 158, 160, 169, 197, 208, 236, 245 W

Wapping 17, 203 Warblington 1, 3 Ware 146 Warwick Street (Bavarian Embassy) 64, 166, 209

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Weld Bank 173 West Grinstead 183 Westminster 63 , 99, 101 , 143, 144, 150, 155, 158, 178, 186, 189 Weston Underwood 190 Weymouth 102 Winchester 1, 64, 155, 171, 188, 227, 253 Winton 74, 194 Witham Place 98, 99, 195 Woodley Lodge 88 Woolhampton 106 Woolwich 60-63 , 71, 140, 141 , 148 y

York Street 17, 159

GENERAL INDEX A

Accademia di Religione Cattolica 230 Act of Supremacy 200 Act of Union 1800 10 adoption 231 Aged Poor Society 17, 59, 138, 179 Airaine 76 Aix la Chappelle 56 Albano 40 'Albion' (restaurant) 70,72 Ambassadors 159, 161, 162, 179, 185 anti-Catholicism 1, 88 see also Catholic emancipation; Marriage Acts army, Catholics in 18, 38 'Artichoke', public house 232 Associated Charities 203 Augsbourgh (Augsburg) 53, 54 Austria 52-4 B

Baccano 28-9 'Baglett' coffee house 140 baptism 130, 142, 200 Baptisms 61 'Baptist Head' coffee house 95 Bassano 52 Bavaria 53-4 Beauvais 229 Belgium 56-7 Benedictbauren 53 Blanchardist Schism 11, 12, 23, 107, 114, 124, 125, 136, 140, 142, 147, 153, 154, 164, 171, 205,241 Board of Catholic Laity 98, 203 Bologna 26 Bolsano (Botzen) 52 Bolsena 28, 44

Bombay 155, 170 Bon Secours, Caen 233 bonds 199 Bonne (Bonn) 56 books 64, 65, 102, 191, 196, 221, 223 Borough Schools 141 Brenner 53 Brescia 51 British Commission 171 British Ecclesiastical finances 127 British Empire, statistics 212 Brixen 52-3 Broons 149 Brougham's Bill see Marriage Act 1818 Bruges 57 Brussels 57, 87 Buenos Aires 180 bulls 171, 188,209,219 Buon Convento 28 Bureau Gratuite de Surveillance 109-10, 113, 121, 123, 130, 132

c Calais 75, 229 Camogli 46 Canada 81, 184, 225, 252 Cape of Good Hope 99, 101, 102, 107, 131, 134 Cardinals, creation of 103 Castel Franco 26 Castle Street 168 Catholic Church, growth in England 7, 16 Catholic emancipation 9-10, 23, 25, 30, 41-3 , 48, 58, 91, 94, 163, 172, 174, 199-204, 219 Catholic laity, attitude of V.A.s 9 287

288

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Catholic Relief Bill, 1813 10-11, 36 Catholicism (Catholicon) 92 Cato 147, 148 censure, absolution from 149, 178 Ceylon 215 Chapter 191, 217 Charitable Sisters 17, 226 charity 59, 88, 99, 109-10, 125, 126, 138, 141, 246 Chartreuse 50 Chelmsford prison 163 Cherbourg 233 Chiary 51 Chile 180 China 171, 243 Christianity: or The Evidences and Characters of The Christian Religion (Poynter) 18 Coblents (Coblenz) 56 College de Spiritu Sancto 146 College oath 151, 166 College of Rome 134,239 Cologne 56 Commissioners for Claims of France 190, 191, 202, 211, 230 compensation petitions 110, III petitions to King of France 71,78, 123, 134, 135 wi thheld by English government 8 Complaints of Cardinal Litta, (1815) 23-5 Concordat, 1801 11, 131, 135 conversions 245 Cork Medal 166 Council of Trent 222 Coutances 197 Covigliaio 26 crimen 175, 247 customs 102, 181,217

Decree of Sequestration 122 Decretum Indicis 159 deeds signed 197 dimissorials 103, 166, 169, 221, 236 Dominica 165 donations received 64, 66, 67, 99, 138, 143, 154, 164 Douai 3-4, 109-10, 116, 164, 189, 199, 211, 254 see also English Colleges in France Doway see Douai Downside Abbey 130, 178 Durham 12, 38, 243-4 E Eastern Colonies 139 Ecclesiastical school 240 Ecclesiastical Seminary 146, 148 Ecclesiastical students, funding of 59, 90, 102, 103, 105-7, 145, 148, 150, 151, 180, 185, 189, 195, 198, 199, 205-7, 223, 224, 226, 234, 241, 244-6, 250, 253 Ecole Chretienne 128 education 17 education of poor 72 emancipation 9-1 Ember Day 166 Encyclical 251 English College in Rome 17, 102, 149, 153, 241 English Colleges in France 4, 7, 12, 76, 77, 109-19, 121-6, 128-36, 151, 171, 176, 223 see also Douai; St Orner English Commission 112, 115, 118,151,177 English consulate 229 English government withholding of compensation 8

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GENERAL INDEX

Episcopal Oath 172, 184 Epistola Apologetica (Poynter) 18, 94, 218 exile, return from 12 Explanation de Quebec 165

F Florence 27, 45 Fontainebleu, exile of Pope and Cardinals 12 France, church/state relations in 57, 131 France, government authority over British in France 136 Francfort (Frankfurt) 55 Franciscans 249 Frascati 40 Free Masons 173, 179 French Commission 112 French consulate 229 French priests 67, 114, 117, 130, 164, 241 see also individual names fundraising 70, 72, 171 , 173, 179, 187 funerals 115, 188, 207 G

Gand (Ghent) 57, 87 Garden of the Soul (Challoner) 18 Genoa 46-50 Genoese Letter 14 Gibraltar 178, 251 Golden Square 92 Grenada 89, 95, 105, 171 Guadeloupe 171 Guernsey 208 H

Hamburg 165 Hayes Report 121

Hayti (Haiti, San Domingo) 197, 204,217,220,221,231 ,241 Heilbron 55 Hippenheim 55 History and Revelation of Soeur Nativite 157 history of 5th Resolution 33, 42 History of England (Lingard) 18 Hole Farm 146, 149, 154 Holy Oils, leave to bless 50 hulks (prison ships) 18, 160 Hypsopolis 135 I

Indulgences 240 Innsbruck 53 Inquisition 97 Inscription 113 Institute of the Blessed Virgin Mary 53 Instructions Pastorales de Gand (1815) 87 insurance 150, 245 Ionian Islands 200, 202, 210, 212 Ireland, Catholicism 10 Irish Bishops 31, 41, 96 Irish College, France 78, 112, 133 Irish Episcopal Oath 180 Irish missionaries 207 Irish Resolutions 68 Isle of France see Mauritius Italy 27-9, 46

J Jamaica 85 Jersey 205, 208 Jerusalem, Religious in 251 Jesuits 15, 15n, 62, 85, 130, 140, 170, 187, 189, 215, 217, 235 Joumal de Gant (1816) 87 Jugement Doctrinal (1815) 87

290

THE POYNTER DIARIES

Laity's Directory (or Directory) 16, 64, 124 Lake Garda 51 Lancaster canal 204 leases 167 legacies 162 legal affairs 166, 168 Leghorn (Livorno) 72 Lent 121 Lerice 46 letters, accounts of 255 Levante 46 Liege 56 Lisbon 17, 124, 131, 147, 161, 164, 169, 181, 193, 195, 225 Litt. de Pie VII (1816) 87 Little Episque seminaries 112 London Tavern 141, 171 Lucca 46

M Macao 89, 155, 169, 182, 225, 228 Madras 74, 199 Malabar 215, 223 Marriage Acts 139-40, 168, 169, 175,201,206,227, 240 marriage, validity 143 marriages 214, 217, 222, 250 marriages, Catholic 38, 176 Marshalsea Court 156 martyr, body of 174 Mauritius 101, 127, 140, 168, 170, 187 Mayence 55 medical letters 219 Meditations (Challoner) 132 Memorial to the Commissioners 123 memorials 122, 123 Mestre 51

Milan 50-1 Military Schools, Catholic pupils 96 Ministere des Mfaires Etrangeres 113 missionary faculties granted 66, 150, 156, 168, 183, 195, 208, 209, 218, 249 Missions Etrangeres 118, 126, 127, 229 Mittenwald 53 Modena 26 Monmouth 141, 149 Montefiascone 28, 44 Montreal 254 mortgages 157 Munic (Munich) 53, 54 N

Naples 89 navy, Catholics in 18, 38 New Holland 84, 185 New South Wales 143, 210, 213, 214 New Testament, Bishop Challoner's translation 164 Nice 143 Nicolet 197 Noailles 76 Northern District 175 nuns see religious sisters

o Oath of Allegiance 202 Oath of allegiance and veto 9-11,23-5, 172, 173 Oath of Supremacy 203 Observations (Lingard) 100 Observations on the Laws and Ordinances (Keating and Brown) 92, 93 Old Fund (Secular Clergy Common Fund) 216

GENERAL INDEX

ordinations 61, 63, 68, 90, 93, 103, 104, 107, 144-6, 151, 166,167,169,194,196,217, 219, 237, 246 Ordonnances 109-12, 114, 120, 121, 125, 160, 191 Orthodox Journal 91, 147, 162, 173, 192 Ostend 57 p

Padua 51 Paramaribo (Paramasibo, Surinam) 208 Paris 76-80, 164, 229 Parma 25-6 Pastoral Letters 16, 38, 87, 95 , 121, 203, 223 Pavia 50 Peers, Catholic 226 pensions 120, 126, 127, 145 Pergini ,52 Petersfield 1-2, 72 petition of the English Catholics to the House of Commons 166 petitions 110, 111 petitions to King of France 71 , 78, 123, 134, 135 Philippines 171 Pisa 45 Poggibonzi 27-8 Pojoli 26 Ponte Elsa 45 Pontrecantano 28 Poor Boys' School, Hammersrni th 144 poor schools 100, 105 Port Louis 127 Porto Fino 46 power 74 power of attorney 148, 159, 181, 186, 224, 249 Poynter, Bishop William baptism 2 bishops 8, 9- 11 , 197

291

blessing from Pius VII 50 character 18- 19 checks mission accounts 74, 75, 79,85- 7, 101 , 113, 117, 134, 140, 142, 144, 155, 161 , 170, 175, 178, 199, 207, 216, 218 , 248 clothing and laundry 75, 111 , 113, 230, 232 Coadjutor Vicar Apostolic 6 confirmations 66, 67, 71 , 92, 98, 137- 9, 141 , 169, 173, 176, 177, 179, 192, 207 , 208, 226, 227, 239, 247, 252 consecrations, religious items 131 , 169, 179, 189,200, 201 , 204, 209, 210, 216, 225, 233 , 237 death and burial 19-20 despondency 15- 16 dispute with Bishop Milner 8- 15, 23-4, 31 , 38, 42 dispute with Peter Gandolphy 15, 73 , 89, 94, 100, 101 , 128, 171 dispute with Richard Ferris 110, 132-4 at Douai 3-4 early life 1-3 Fifth Resolution 9, 23-5 illness 32, 47 Irish Bishops, relations with 8- 11 , 15, 23-4, 30-1,49, 115 laity, relations with 9, 15, 84-5 loans, religious items 109, 150, 153, 201, 234 Paris, visits to 76-80, 109- 37, 229- 31 personal life 17- 18 Pope's chapel 41 publications see under individual titles

292

THE POYNTER DIARIES

relationships with V.A.s 8 Rome, visits to 12- 14,29-44 St Edmund's college 5-6, 7 see also St Edmund's college threat of resignation 16 threatened with legal action 132-3 Vicar Apostolic, general issues 7- 8 Visitation of district 16, 108 Prayer Book (Poynter) 18 prayers at Mass for the King 34 priests see also ordinations; St Edmund's college education 17 French 8, 67 lodgings 150 recruitment 146, 167 shortage of 7, 16-17 Spanish 70 training for colonies 165 Prince of Wales Island 127 Privileged Altar 172 Profession of Faith 166, 180, 217,219 Promulgation des Bulles Doctrinales (1816) 87 Propaganda 7, 13, 16, 17,23, 62,74, 131, 137, 151, 170, 174, 191, 203, 241 Protest, 1819 197 Protest to King of France 160, 163 Protestants, reception into Catholic Church 136

Q Quarantotti Rescript 23-5, 37 Quebec, status of diocese 165, 184 R

Radicofani 28

Reflexions politiques (Abbe Treverne) 137 Reggio 25-6 Reidesheim 55 relics 51, 181 Relief Act, 1791 5 religious items 113, 181, 214, 217, 218 see also Poynter, Bishop William: consecrations; loans, religious items religious sisters 17, 61 prohibition on wearing of habits in public 14-15, 23, 41,42 remonstrances 90, 130 Remonstration, French 124, 129 'Rentes' in France 122, 128, 136, 190, 193, 210, 230, 233 Representations respectives (1815) 87 Resolution of Catholic Laity 9, 23, 33, 42, 98 Resolutions 90, 93 Retreats 180 Rhine 55-6 Riccio 44 Riggory Farm 60,68, 86, 147 Ristretto (Rev. Macpherson) 94 Ronciglione 28, 44

s Samer 76, 229 Sarzanna 46 Saturday abstinence 47 schools 17, 102, 106 Scots College, Rome 29, 188 Sedgley Park School 63, 84, 85, 90, 101, 148, 151, 163, 195, 198, 207, 208, 224, 245, 250 Senegal 231 Siena 28, 45 Sittingbourne 57 Somerset House 141 Spanish priests 70 Speculatores Domus Israel 219

293

GENERAL INDEX

St Casciano 45 St Catherine 26 St Charles 50 St Edmund's college 5- 6, 17, 82-4, 86, 100-2, 107, 108, 124, 142, 145, 146, 151, 160, 166, 177, 187-9, 194, 204, 208, 216, 219, 226, 239, 243, 251, 252 lay students 180-2 St Helena 167, 180 StMary's Seminary 254 St Orner 4, 162 see also English Colleges in France St Patrick's School 99, 115 St Paul's School 177 St Rose of Viterbo 28 St Trou 56-7 stocks and shares 68, 75, 88, 105, 173, 197, 204, 224 Stonyhurst 62, 156, 206, 219 Stuttgart 54- 5 'Swan with two necks' hotel 180 Szechuan 169 T

Theological Examinations of Columbanus (Poynter) 162 Tillock's Philosophical Magazine 208 tongue of St Antony 51 Transubstantiation debate 176 travel expenses 29, 137, 229, 230, 243

Treasury 189, 249 Trent 52 Trinidad 197,251,252,255

u University of Paris 112 Ursulines 198 Ushaw 98, 168, 243

v Valladolid 17 Vatican 43 Venice 51- 2 Verona 51 vestments 77, 213 , 218, 249 Viterbo 28, 44 Voltaggio 50 W

Warblington Street 209 West Indies 101, 107, 108, 145 , 154, 160, 161 , 200, 222 wills 88-9, 97, 156, 157, 161-3, 168, 177, 181 , 206 dispensation for religious 234 Wolfershausin 53 y

Ypres 121, 122