Workers'fighttosaveapapermillinTemiscaming, Quebecisnowthesubjectofanupcomingbook
ByJonathanMigneault
Tembecwasfoundedin1973whenthethe town’s mill nearly shut down. In the summer of 1973, workers and local managers at a paper mill inTemiscaming, Que., about 45 minutes from North Bay, took to the streets when an American conglomerate, was abouttoshutdownthemill.
Theworkersandmanagerstookapaycut to collectively purchase the mill from the International Paper Company, and saved the town'slargestemployer.
Thatprotestmadenationalheadlinesand became the subject of the 1975 National Film Board of Canada documentary, Temiscaming, Québec.
Now, a history professor at Laurentian Universityisworkingwithtwoofhisstudentsto writeandpublishanewbookaboutTembec,the pulpandpapercompanythoseworkersformedin theearly1970s.
"It was a different company. The model that they used from the get-go was to involve everybody in the management," said Mark Kulhberg. "ThisisrareinCanadaformillworkerstobepart of the management team.”
Tembec went on to have other operations in northern Ontario as well, in Kapuskasking, Chapleau and Smooth RockFalls.
Kuhlberg said the Tembec story holds a
"nugget of wisdom" for present-day northern Ontario.
"So many communities are dealing with the challenge of their industry shutting down in places like Temiscaming or Kapuskasing," he said.
"Kapuskasing has a mill that Tembec took over in the 1990s and it's still up and running. But other towns like Smooth Rock Falls that Tembec had a mill in, lost their mills. And whatdoyoudoinaoneindustrytownwhenyou losethatemployer?"
Kuhlberghasrecruitedtwoofhisundergraduate students – Sarah Gould and Fiona Symington–tohelpwiththebook.
"We had some financial difficulties at Laurentianandwelostourmastersprogram,"he saidofthehistorydepartment.
“I'm working with undergraduate students now andit'sbeenreallysuccessful."
Symington said she didn't expect to help toresearchabookasanundergraduatestudent.
"Atfirst,IwasworriedthatIwasmaybe not experienced enough because I wasn't in my master's. Like, this is typically something you would see graduate students doing. But through the support and encouragement of Dr Kuhlberg and Sarah, I've realized that I am more than capable."
Gould said she wasn't familiar with Tembec when she first joined the project, but foundthestoryenlightening.
"When the employees were able to band together and buy the mill, it turned out quite successfully.Itwasjustinterestingtomebecause ofhowwellitallturnedout."
In the summer of 1973 the community of Temiscaming, Que., protested plans to close the local paper mill, which was the town's largest employer. Sûreté du Québec officers were called in to respond to the protests. (NationalFilmBoardofCanada)
"Like everyone else, I like the underdog story," shesaid.
The Tembec sawmill in Chapleau, Ont. The company operated several mills across northern Ontario before it was bought out in 2017.
WeatherSummaryforOntario
November 2024: Very Warm in the North, Dry in the South
Temperatures
November was warmer than normal, especially inthenorthwestandtheFarNorth.Fromthemap below, we see the highest anomaly was above 7oC, a value not reached since last February Provincewide, significantly cool days were few orabsent.
The first week began with one or two slightly cool days after which warmer than normal conditions began. In fact, most of the province saw the highest daily temperatures for the month later that week, with widespread record high values in both daily maximum and overnight minimum. The temperature reached 25oC in St Catherines on the 5th and only dropped to 17 1oC earlier that morning Conditions were mixed but mostly warmer for thesecondweekprovincewide.Inthethirdweek a second longer but weaker warm spell crossed the province. Temperatures cooled significantly towardtheendofthemonthformostregions.
Precipitation
Monthlyprecipitationamountswerenear normal for most of the province but drier than normalconditionswererecordedinthesouthand wetter than normal conditions near Sault Ste Marie and near the Manitoba Border.
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Precipitation was spread throughout the month butinthenortheast,mostofthemonthlyamount occurred during the first week (from the 2nd to 5th).Asystembroughtextensiveprecipitationat the end of the third week from the northwest downthroughsouthernOntario.ThunderBayCS saw a record daily amount of 61.9 mm, and Hazelwoodwith90.8mm,bothonthe19th.
Snowfall
Snowfall was generally lower than normal, unsurprisingly with a warm month, especially in the north. Notable accumulation occurred in the northeast in the first week and again in the second week along with the northwest.Widespreadsnowfellacrossthenorthand Far North, and even down to east of Georgian Bay during the final week. Then, persistent snowsquallsproducedheavyamountstowardthe end of the month east of the Great Lakes. Snow amounts there were more than 100 cm locally over several days producing higher than normal precipitation amounts for the month.
SignificantEvents
October 31-November 1: Widespread windy conditions in the south with snow in the
LINA COWAN (nee Bignucolo)
December 6th, 1927 - November 27th, 2024
Lina Mary Cowan (nee Bignucolo) passed away peacefully at the age of 96 years at the Timmins and District Hospital on Wednesday, November 27th, 2024 with family at her side. She was born in Chapleau and moved to Timmins in 2003 to be closer to her family Lina is predeceased by her husband Eldon Russell Cowan (2013)andhersonClementLouisJoseph(2020).Shewillbemissed by her children Anna (Jim), Lisa (Norm) and Donna (Ryan), her daughter-in-law Linda and her grandchildren Joseph (Kim), Deanna (Travis), Jim, John (Irish), Chris (Kelly), Amanda, Christina (John), Luke,Mia,andSerena.Shethoroughlylovedhergreatgrandchildren Faith, Harper, Gianna, Scarlett and Isaiah. She was an extended grandmother to Saybrie and Ryland. She is survived by her sister, Rita Albert (Mississauga).LinawaspredeceasedbyherfatherLouisBignucolo,hermotherCecilia (Bellina),herbrotherVictorandhersister,EmmaLandry LinawasloyaltoherCatholic faithandprayeddaily Shelovedtoreminisceandlaughandhadaquickwitabouther She would never turn down a lottery ticket or Bingo. She was proud of her Italian descent. In her younger years, she excelled during her time as a bank teller and then lateroninlifeasabookkeeperfortheChapleauSacredHeartChurchrectory Shewould say her greatest accomplishment was raising her children. Our Heartfelt thanks to the Extendicare staff, Dr DiTullio and Dr Vaithilingam As well as Dr Boulay, Dr Schwertfegerandthenurseswhotookgreatcareofmom,Katrina,NalinaandPam. In lieu of flowers, Remembrance donations to the Saint Anthony of Padua CathedralortotheTimminsandDistrictHospitalFoundation–HospiceCentrewouldbe greatlyappreciated.FuneralMasswasheldat1p.m.onSaturday,November30,2024 from the Saint Anthony of Padua Cathedral (Fr. John Lemire officiating). Interment followed at the Timmins Memorial Cemetery The funeral arrangements have been entrusted with the MIRON-WILSON FUNERAL HOME, Cremation and Reception Centre,150BalsamSt.S.,Timmins.
north.
Anintensesystemcrossingtheprovincebrought windrelateddamagetosouthernOntario.13,000 HydroOnecustomerswerewithoutpoweronthe morningofthe1st.AtonepointthewholeBruce Peninsula lost power as winds gusted to locally 80km/h.Farthernorth,snowandfallingtemperatures(throughfreezing)causedtrafficproblems and two collisions. Highway 613 was closed in several locations. Snow amounts ranged from 4 cmtoWawato10cmatKapuskasing. November25-26:Heavysnowsnarlsroadsin thenortheast.
A band of heavy snow moved across nearly all northeastern Ontario Monday afternoonintoTuesdaymorning.Thesnowledtovery hazardous travel with numerous collisions throughout the region, along with several road closures. Highway 17 was closed in multiple locations There were at least two collision incidentswithonefatalityCont’donP.5
Chapleau Moments
by MichaelJ. Morris
Ann Morris, Doris Delaney. Back row Robert Doyle, Gary Legros, Leslie Doig, MauriceBlais,PatConnelly,KeithMarsh
RobertFifewasnotsittinginhisassigned seat when I arrived in Room 104 at the new Chapleau High School in January 1969 to teach Grade Nine history -- "The British Epic"-replacing a teacher who had become ill and wouldbeawayforsometime.
UPDATED: November19,2015. Bob is leaving CTV News to become Ottawa Bureau Chief of TheGlobeandMail.
Ihadneverbeeninthenewschoolonthe hill opened in 1966, as I had attended the high school on Pine Street where the Chapleau Civic Centreisnow.ItwasthelastplaceIexpectedto be on this winter morning as I had been home visitingmymother,MurielE.(Hunt)Morris,and wasplanningtoreturntothenewspaperbusiness.
However, when George Evans, the school's assistant principal called to ask if I wouldreplaceateacher,andthepaywas$25.00a day, I accepted and put plans to travel to either Vietnam to cover the war there or Beirut, Lebanon,towriteaboutdrugsmugglingonhold forthetimebeing--itisnowover40yearslater andIhaveneverbeentoeitherplace.
So,thereIwasinRoom104,firstclassof the day, history with Grade Nine "A", having beengiventhetextbooks,adaybookandstudent seating plan. I put my name on the blackboard, turned and looked at the seating plan, and
RobertFifefromChapleau,winnerofnationalnewspaperawardsandbest-selling authorleavesOttawaBureauChiefof CTVNewstojoinGlobeandMail
immediatelysensedallwasnotright.Inmybest Dr KarlHackstettervoice,Iyelled,"Getbackin yourrightseatsNOW."(Forthosewhonevermet Dr Hackstetter trustme,hecouldyell.)
It worked. Students scurried to get to wheretheybelonged,andthereinfrontofmewas BobFife,sinceFebruary2005theOttawaBureau Chief for CTV NEWS, then in Grade Nine at CHS He is also the Executive Producer of CTV'sPowerPlayandQuestionPeriod.
Several days later, Bob appeared at the staffroomwantingtospeakwithme.Itturnedout that the teacher I was replacing had been directing a play and Bob asked if I would take overasdirector Byhisreckoning,becauseIwas areporter,Imustknowsomethingaboutdrama.
Bobplayedtheleadingroleinadelightful one act comedy called 'Sunday Cost Five Pesos' and we expanded the production into a student talent night, which continued in the 1970swith Bobbeingnamedbestactorforhisperformances on several occasions. For several years at CHS we did two productions a year involving a large numberofstudents.
Alsoin1969,theChapleauLittleTheatre was founded with Margaret Costello. a distinguished journalist and actress in Canada
and the United States, who had moved to Chapleau,inaleadingroleinKayHill'scomedy "ThreetoGetMarried."Justdaysbeforeopening night, a cast member became ill, and Bob very quicklytookovertheroleandpulleditoffasifhe hadbeenrehearsingformonths.
Ishouldhaverealizedhewaseventually headedtoprime-timetelevision.
Somehow, in 1969, I ended up replacing the Midget hockey coach on a trip to Timmins and"Fife"asIcametocallhimalmostendedmy coaching career before it really started. There wasafightduringthegame,andafterwereturned to Chapleau, a letter arrived from JamesAspin, long time secretary manager of the Northern Ontario Hockey Association alleging that the Chapleaucoachhadbeenyellingathisplayersto "Fight!Fight!AtameetingintheoldTownHall basement, of course I denied it. Earle Freeborn askedmeifIhadyelledanything.
After a moment I said yes. I had yelled "Fife!Fife!"atBobwhoparticipatedinthefight trying to get him to the bench. This explanation was sent to the NOHA and I lived to coach anotherday.
During his years at CHS Bob was also active in other student activities and served as presidentoftheStudentCouncilin1972-73.
Shortly after I joined Facebook a couple of years ago, Charlie Braumberger, who was in thesameclassasBobmessagedmesaying,"You mustbereallyproudofBob'ssuccess."
Ipausedabitbeforereplying.OfcourseI am,butIhavebeenproudofeverystudentIever had in the 32 years I spent in the classroom at Chapleau High School and College of the Rockies. To anyone who ever asked me about students, I have had a standard reply, "I have nevermetabadstudent."
ButIknowwhatCharliemeant.Bobwas Cont’donP.5
Chapleau High School Student Council of 1972-73 when Bob Fife was president. Front row from left Jamie Doyle, Eileen McRea, TomTangie, Bob, Patty Desbois. Middle row from left Rusty Deluce, Joan Lapointe, Walter Sonego, Dan Plouffe, Michael Dillon, Mary
BobFifewithTomCorston
BobFifefarrightlistening toJ.B.Walsh
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by/par Carol Hughes Federal member of Parliament Algoma-Manitoulin-Kapuskasing
Last week, the Prime Minister announced that he'd be seeking to introduce legislation in Parliament to provide a two-month break on the Goods and Services Tax (GST) and Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) for groceries, some essential items, and some gift items during the holiday season. He also announced that he would seek to provide $250 cheques to each working-aged Canadian who made less than $150,000 in 2023. ThisfollowsaNewDemocratpushtopermanently remove the GST from many essential items and a calltotheprovincestodothesamewiththePST So what is included in the GST holiday, how does it differ from the NDP proposal, and what about the government's proposed one-time $250 Canada WorkersBenefit?
The Prime Minister's announcement last weeklaidoutthathewillbeseekingtoremovethe GST/HSToffofmanyessentialand,insomecases, non-essential items ahead of the holiday season, fromDecember14th,2024toFebruary15th,2025. Thegoodsnotedinthedealincludeavarietyoffood items that were previously subject to taxation (including prepared foods like sandwiches and salads, restaurant meals, and bottled water), a number of items for children (including clothing items, diapers, footwear, and car seats), printed books and newspapers, Christmas trees, select children's toys, and video games. While some of theseitemsdiffergreatlyfromwhatwasincludedin the NDP proposal, which included cell phones, internetandhomeheatingbills,butdidnotinclude non-essential items like video games, it is good to see the government finally make some effort to reduce costs for struggling Canadians. And while we were willing to work with them to pass these measures that will give some financial relief to Canadians, they are only temporary solutions, compared to the NDP proposal that sought to eliminate the GST on essentials like home heating permanently
Theotherpartoftheproposal,sendingonetime$250paymentstoCanadiansmakinglessthan $150,000, was entirely new, seemingly modeled after a recent announcement Doug Ford made to send people in Ontario rebate cheques. While this part of their tax rebate holiday is in many ways welcome, it does ignore some of the most vulnerable people in the country, namely people withdisabilitiesnotabletowork.
Thisisaseriousomission.Seniorshavealso beenexcludedandbecauseofthislackofforesight, NewDemocratspushedthegovernmentbacktothe drawingboardonthe$250payment,butworkedto quickly pass the GST holiday legislation. What is curious, however, is that the Conservative caucus,
AGSTTaxHolidayWillHelp,butaPermanentRemovalonEssentialsNeeded
including the official opposition leader, voted againstit-eventhoughtheycampaignedonaGST holidayaspartoftheir2021electionplatform.We look forward to debating the one-time payment of $250, should the government table legislation that includesthemostvulnerable.
This proposal, however, also ignores the otherhalfoftheledger–howwillthegovernment affordtheGST/HSTtaxholidayandthepaymentto workingCanadians?Theyhave not been f orthcoming about this, and the two measures are estimated to cost the federal government $6 3 billion. New Democrats had previously proposed enacting an excess profits tax on those corporate
entities who have made off like bandits during the inflationary crisis like massive grocery chains and oil companies, but it seems more likely that the governmentwillsimplytryandeatthecostandadd tothenationaldebt.
Canadianshaveexpectedtheirgovernment to tackle the affordability crisis long before now They should be focused more specifically on essentials,becauseIthinkmostpeoplewouldagree thattheirphonebillisnecessary,andavideogame isnot.Theyneedtoensurethatthosemeasuresalso go to those most affected, including seniors, students and people with disabilities, because it's otherwiseanon-starter.
ChapleauMoments
Cont’dfromP.3 interested in the news and peppered me with questions from the first moment he knew I had beenareporterandeditor.Ourconversationson theissuesofthedaycontinuedforyears.
Bob, who was born in Chapleau, is the son of Margaret and the late Clyde Fife. Bob's grandfather George Fife was manager of the Chapleau Electric Light and Power Company andservedasreeveoftheTownshipofChapleau from1938to1942.
His father served in the Royal Canadian AirForceduringWorldWarII,andIrecalltothis day,ClydetellingmethestoryofmyparentsJim and Muriel being at the ceremony in Toronto when he got his wings, and my father tried to makehimlaughwhileonparade.Clyde,whowas myfather'sbestmanattheweddingofmyparents in 1940 also claimed that he "looked after" my fatherafterIwasborninHamilton.
Our grandmothers were the best of friends and enjoyed playing golf on "Ladies' Day" at the golf course in Chapleau. Bob and I also got a chuckle over the time that his grandmother went to visit mine on Elgin Street when the snowbanks were really high. Bob's father dropped his mother off and she assured him she could get to my grandmother's house. Somehow Mrs. Fife got stuck in the snowbank. My grandmother, Lil Morris, was watching and immediatelycalledClydetocomeandrescuehis mother.Allwentwellandtheyhadtheirvisit.
AftergraduatingfromCHSBobattended the University of Toronto where he earned the BachelorofArtsdegree.
In1978,Bobstartedhisjournalismcareer in the parliamentary bureau of NewsRadio and thenheworkedforUnitedPressInternational.It washiscontactwithUPIthatgot me one of my most interesting reporting assignments, covering atestofthenuclearwintertheory in1985atChapleau.Bobgotme theassignment.
WeatherSummaryforOntario
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nearEchoBay(involvingatleast4vehicles).Snowamountsweregenerallyinthe 10 to 15 cm range, with snowfall rates of 3 cm/hour common. Sault Ste. Marie reportedthehighestamountat16cm.
November28-30:IntensesnowsquallseastofGeorgianBayandLakeHuron
Amulti-daysnowsqualleventtookplaceinseasonablycoolairoffGeorgian Bay and Lake Huron. There were two main bands stretching far inland from GeorgianBay.Lowvisibilityandheavysnowproducedtreacherousdrivingconditions. Highways 11 and 17 were closed in multiple locations throughout the event due to collisions. Late on the 30th, Hydro One reported that crews had restored powertoover76000customers.ThetownofGravenhurstdeclaredastateofemergency.ThiscontinuedintoDecember.
IceConditionsintheGreatLakes
TheGreatLakesdidnotseeanysubstantialiceformationthismonth.Avery smallamountoficedidformalongthenorthernshoreofBlackBayinLakeSuperior inthelastfewdaysofthemonth.Typically,bytheendofNovember,somelakeice hasformedinbaysalongthenorthwesternshoreofLakeSuperiorandBlackBayhas startedtofillup.WhileiceformationfelltoslightlyslowerthannormalontheGreat LakesbytheendofNovember,itisnotunusualtohaveaslowstarttotheiceseason asthelakescontinuetocool.
OutlookforDecember
ForDecembertheoutlookfortemperatureshowsonlylowprobabilitiesof warmerconditionsinthenorthparticularlynearHudsonBayandcoolerconditions over southern Ontario. Precipitation amounts could be higher near the southern Manitobaborderandnearnormalelsewhere.
Hethenbecameaseniorpoliticalreporter fortheCanadianPressandlaterspent10yearsas OttawaBureauChiefandpoliticalcolumnistfor Cont’donP.8
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Lastweekssolutions
MOMENTS IN TIME
On Dec. 19, 1843, Charles Dickens' beloved classic novella "A Christmas Carol" was published in London by Chapman and Hall. The firsteditionsoldoutinjustfivedays,andthebook not only has been adapted countless times in multiplemedia,butithasnevergoneoutofprint.
OntarioOffsetting OPPCostIncreasesforSmallandRuralMunicipalities Provincialinvestmentwouldsupportpoliceandcommunitysafety
TheOntariogovernment isproposingtoprovideover$77 million in financial relief to municipalities to help offset the increased cost of municipal police services provided by the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) Thisinvestmentwillhelp these predominantly small and rural communities address the budget impacts resulting from the collective bargaining agree-
ment that was reached between the province and the Ontario Provincial Police Association (OPPA)inJuly2024.
“Our government is working closely with our municipal partners and our women and men in uniform to keep communities across Ontario safe,” said Solicitor General Michael Kerzner. “The financialreliefweareproposing will help municipal leaders
balance their budgets and invest in their communities while ensuring no change to the policing provided by the OPP that keeps families and businessessafe.”
The Ontario government's proposal would support smallandruralmunicipalitiesby offsetting the 2025 impacts of OPP salary increases. This includes:
· A 3 75 per cent bill reduction on 2023 total reconciledcosts,
· A 44 per cent bill reduction on 2023 reconciled overtimecosts,and
· A 10 per cent bill reduction on amounts invoiced for2025policingcosts.
In addition to these changes, the Government of Ontario is continuing its annual $125 million Court Security & PrisonerTransportationTransfer Payment Program for the 2025 calendaryear
Theprovincewillalsobe examiningoptionsforreviewing the OPPbillingmodeltoensure that it meets the needs of communities across the province
The OPP provides municipal policing services to 330 municipalities across Ontario
The OPPA and the provincialgovernmentratifieda new uniform and civilian collective agreement in July 2024thatincludedgeneralsalary increases for 2023, 2024, 2025 and2026.
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Cont’dfromP.5 the Sun Media chain.At one point in the 1980s Maclean's magazine called Bob the best investigativereporterinCanada.
AftertheNationalPostwasfounded,he joineditin1998,andhebecameOttawaBureau Chief for CanWest News Services and the NationalPostin2002.
In 1991, Bob's first book, 'A Capital Scandal'whichhewrotewithJohnWarrencame out, and I recall going to a bookstore in Cranbrook to see if I could get a copy There it was prominently displayed in the new book section, and as I thumbed through it and noted that he dedicated it to his mother Margaret, I becameabitemotionalwhichcausedtheladyin thestoretoaskifIwasallright.
Derik Hodgson who was an incredibly good reporter of my generation with whom I had worked at the Kingston Whig-Standard and SaskatoonStar-Phoenix.Itsohappenedthatby 1991 Derik had become communications director of the Canadian Labour Congress and hadorganizedaconferenceforeditorsoflabour union publications. I was the editor of Insider, the faculty magazine at College of the Rockies andattendedtheconferenceinVancouver, Smallworldthatitis,thereIwaswithmy old friend Derik drinking coffee in the Hotel Vancouver, discussing a book by a Chapleau boy,whowebothknew,albeitcomingtoknow Bob in different ways. We were agreed on the messageofthebook.
ChapleauMoments SHOP LOCALLY
"Iamfine,"Itoldher "IknowRobertFife andIamsoproudofhim."IwentontotellBob's backgroundandleftwiththebook.AsIwrite,it isbesidemeonmydesk--andthestoryittells about politics in Canada and the need for the reform of Parliament it calls for is as relevant, perhapsmoresotoday,thanitwas20yearsago.
In the acknowledgments Bob mentions
In 1993, Bob's second book, 'Kim Campbell: The Making of a Politician' was published. She became the first female prime minister of Canada. Again, it remains a must read for a better understanding of politics in Canada.
He has won the Edward DunlopAward for Spot News and two National Newspaper CitationofMeritforpoliticalreporting. However, it has been the past six years
afterBobbecameOttawaBureauChiefofCTV News that he has become a household name in Canada. Especially since I have been on Facebook, many of his old friends have messagedme,"DidyouseeBobonthenewslast night?", "Bob is interviewing the prime minister","Didyouteachhim?"andsoon,butI amguiltytoo.
WhileIwasscanningphotosofBobfor thispieceatWalmart,Iwasgettinghelpfroma ladythere,andpointedtophotoofBobwithTom Corston, and asked her, "Do you ever watch CTVNews?"towhichsherepliedshedid.
"DoyouknowBobFife?"andagainthe answer was yes. Pointing to Bob holding an umbrellaoverTom,whoisnowAnglicanbishop ofMoosonee,Isaid,"That'shimwhenhewasin Grade9",adding,"BobisfromChapleau."
