Mirza Jhelumi’s conspiracy against Finality and Lasthood of Holy Prophet.[ A complete version , yet]

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Mirza Jhelumi’s conspiracy against Finality and Lasthood of Holy Prophet.

Refuting Mirza Jhelumi Ahlussunnah

Refutation of Mirza: Jhe:lumi: claim about the denouncers of the Finality of Holy Prophet that they believe believe that the Holy prophet is the Last prophet. This is a pure conspiracy of Mirza: Jhelumi: since it is very clear that , they openly deny the Finality and lLasthood of Holy Prophet.

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Mirza Jhelumi is a denouncer of Finality and Lasthood of Holy Prophet Muh:ammad [S’:AVS].

It is very clear that the Mirza Jhelumi (the founder of the cult Jhelumi) is a denouncer of the finality and lasthood of Holy Prophet.

In his several lectures , he did say many things against the finality and lasthood of Holy Prophet.

First he did provide wrong definitions of Nabi: [Prophet] and Rasu:l {Apostle/Messenger/Paigh:amber].

Then he said that : “To believe Nabi: ‘:Alaihis Sala:m is the as the Last Paigh:amber”.

He should have said that “ To believe Nabi: ‘:Alaihis Sala:m as the Last Nabi: ”.

Since the word Paigh:amber in its real meaning is used for an Apostle or a Messenger [Rasu:l] and not for Prophet [Nabi:]. To take the meaning of Prophet from the word NABI: is the Virtual Meaning of the Persian Word Paigh:amber.

In Sindhi , Pashtu, Urdu and even in Panjabi: the Real meaning of the word Paigh:amber is Apostle or Messenger and the Virtual Meaning of it is Prophet.

Mirza Jhelumi: said: “ ‘A:p ke Sa:th jo Qa:diani: hein, Jo Nabi ‘:Alaihis Sala:m ko ‘A:kh:iri: Nabi: Ma:nte hain , lekin sa:th me Page 1 of 9

Page 2 of 9 ‘Ummati: Nabi: claim kerte hain, kia yeh Yahu:d o Nas:ara: se Badter hain? ” (time : 0:02-0:12) Youtube.com/watch?v=exbwl1havaU

A literal translation of this sentence is as follow: “ With you are Qa:diani:s , who believe Nabi: ‘:Alaihis Sala:m as Last Nabi: (prophet) but along with it Claim of a ‘Ummati Prophet”.

In this sentence , Mirza: jhelumi cleverly says that Qa:diani:s believe that Holy Prophet as the Last and Final Prophet.

This is certainly and absolutely wrong. Since it is very clear that Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is also known as Qa:diani: Mirza:’is do not believe that Holy Prophet is the Last and Final prophet. {Mah:mudi: Mirza’ism was founded by Mirza: Mah:mu:d ‘Ah:mad [b: 1889 CE-d: 1965 CE].He tried to present the original teaching of his father, contrary to the personal teachings of Muhammad ‘Ali: Lahori Kapurthalvi} 1) Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is do not believe that Holy Prophet was the last and final Prophet. They are debating with Muslims on the meaning of Khatmunubuwah , and they do not believe that it means “Finality Of Prophethood”.Instead of this meaning they take the meaning of Stamp of Prophethood.

2) Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is believe that the meaning of “Finality of Prophethood” contradicts the their belief that Mirza: Qa:diani: as a prophet.

3) Lahori: Mirza:’i accepts that Mah:mu:di: Mirza’is do no believe Holy Prophet as the Last and Final Prophet.

4) All the Muslims believe that any one who believes in the claim of prophethood of a person after Holy Prophet is a denouncer of the Finality of Holy prophet.

5) Mah:mu:di Mirza:’is believe that GAQ was not only a Nabi: but also a Rasul.

6) Mirza: Mah:mu:d was of the view that a type of prophets may continue till doomsday.

7) Although Mah:mudites do believe that MGQ was a Subordinate Prophet or a follower prophet or a projective Prophet , they do believe that he was not only a nabi: but also a rasu:l .

8) This does shew that according to Mah:mudites [Mah:mu:di Mirza:’is] the father of Mirza Mah:mu:d ‘Ah:mad was not a law bearer Prophet/Nabi: , and not a law bearer Messenger/Apostle/Rasu:l , [Sa:h:ibush Shari’:ah] yet they believe that he was a Prophet and a Rasu:l.

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Page 3 of 9 9) The words ‘Ummati Nabi: and ‘Ummati Rasu:l use by Mah:mu:dites mean a particular method of receiving Prophethood [Naubuwah] and Apostleship /messengerhood [Risa:lah] by Mah:mudites.

10) According to the beliefs of Mah:mu:dites regardless of the method/way of receiving Nubuwah, and Risa:lah , an ‘Ummati: Nabi: or a ‘Ummati Rasu:l is a perfect Nabi: and a Perfect Rasu:l.

11) Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is themselves differentiate between the last law bearer nabi: and Last Nabi: .

They deny that Holy prophet was the Last Nabi:. They believe that he was the last Law Bearer Nabi: .

We Muslim believe that he was both the Last Nabi: and Last law bearer Nabi: .

Similarly we believe that Holy Prophet was not only the Last law bearer Rasu:l but also the Last Rasu:l.

12] Mirza: Jhelumi: did try to misguide his nescience followers and troll audience that mah:mudi: Mirza:’is believe in Holy Prophet as Last prophet . The Apostate Jhelumi: tired to Confuse his blind followers between the beliefs of Last Prophet and Last Law Bearer Prophet.

WHAT MUSLIMS BELIEVE All Muslims believe that Holy Prophet is the Last Rasu:l, last law bearer Rasu:l ,Last Law Bearer Nabi: and Last Nabi: .

Any one who believe that any person has become a prophet whether a an ‘Ummati: Prophet or a Gh:air ‘Ummati: Prophet is a denier of the Finality and Lasthood of Holy Prophet.

Inspite of all these Mirza Jhelumi (MJ) ascribes to Mah:mu:di: Mirza:’is that they believe that Holy Prophet as the Last and Final Prophet yet claim an “Ummati Nabi.

This is an absolutely wrong sentence , and Mirza: Jhelumi: is misguiding his audience , and his followers are so submissive , that none of them made an objection on Mirza jhelumi.

Since to believe that a person has become any type/kind of Prophet, after last and Final prophet Muh:ammad [PBUH] is an absolute denial of the Lasthood and Finality of Holy Prophet Muh:ammad [PBUH]/ S:’:AVS] MIRZA: QADIANI:S (MQ) OWN SENTENCES:1) “I am a Prophet and a Messenger—though without a new law (Shariah)—in the sense that I have received inner munificence from my Prophet, my Leader, and by receiving the appellation of his name, and by his instrumentality received knowledge of the unseen from God. I have never disallowed being addressed as a Prophet of this particular kind; as a matter of fact, it is in this very sense that God has proclaimed me to be a Prophet and Messenger. ([Ek Ghalati kaa Izaalah, Roohaani Khazaa’in vol. 18, p. 210-211]).

This paragraph clearly shews that MQ not only claimed that he was a Prophet (Nabi:) but also a Messenger/Apostle [Rasu:l]. It was not only his claim that he received Prophethood but also that he received Massengership/ Apostleship as well. So according to his claim he was not only a Ummati: Nabi but a Rasu:l as well. MQ only makes a statement that he received this munificence through Holy Prophet (PBUH). But this is not the issue at the moment. The issue is whether MQ claimed that he was a Nabi: and a Rasu:l or not.

The above proof text is an irrefutable proof that he claimed so.

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Page 4 of 9 2) Now all nubuwwats are closed except the nubuwwat of Muhammad (sas). No Nabi with a new Shari‘ah can come. A Nabi without new shari‘ah can appear, but only if he is within the ummah. On this basis, I am an Ummati as well as a Nabi.

(Tajalliyat-e-Ilahiyah, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 411–412) .

According to this paragraph MQ himself admits and confesses that a person can become a Nabi: without bearing a new Shari’:ah/Law , even after Holy Prophet. Similarly it is seen that MQ also claimed that he was an Apostle/Messenger. See the first Preliminary. This makes is quite clear that according to MQ as he claimed to be a Messenger/Apostle/Rasu:l as well he meant that he was a “Messenger/Apostle/Rasu:l without a Shari:’:ah/Law”. So MQ does not deny his belief in Continuation of Prophethood but denying the continuation of Law bearing Prophethood. Similarly MQ is not denying the continuation of Messengership/Apostleship/Risalat but denying the continuation of Law bearing Messengership /Apostleship/Risalat. If MQ himself had believed that Holy Prophet PBUH is the Last and Final Prophet then MQ would not have believed even in the continuation of Non-Law Bearing Prophethood and NonLaw bearing Messengership as well.

3) Now all nubuwwats are closed except the nubuwwat of Muhammad (sas). No Nabi with a new Shari‘ah can come. A Nabi without new shari‘ah can appear, but only if he is within the ummah. On this basis, I am an Ummati as well as a Nabi. (Tajalliyat-e-Ilahiyah, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 411–412).

This paragraph clearly shews that the above stated exception is not the Attribute of Holy Prophet, in the meaning that there is no Prophet beside Holy Prophet after Holy Prophet is prophetised, but it means that according to this paragraph of MQ if some one shall be Prophetised i.e when some one shall be made a Prophet after Holy Prophet PBUH that one shall receive prophethood from Holy Prophet and not directly. This very Paragraph also clarified the meaning of ‘Ummati: Nabi: as well according to the belief of MQ. According to MQ’s Paragraph , when a Nabi:/ Prophet shall be chosen , he shall be chosen from the ‘Ummah of Holy prophet and not from any other ‘Ummah beside his ‘Ummah. This is the belief of MQ the father of Mirza: Mah:mu:d ‘Ah:mad. If MQ had believed that Holy Prophet is the Last and Final Prophet, MQ would not have believed in continuation of Prophethood in the line of the “Ummah stated above as well.To disbelieve in the continuation of Prophethood is one thing and to believe in the continuation of Prophethood in a particular group of people is no disbelieve in the discontinuation of Prophethood. I do not know why MJ [Mirza Jhelumi :] is attempting to deceive his followers , who have no knowledge of Mirza:’ism except what they hear and listen in the lectures and alleged answers of MJ. 4) Now we quote the editor of Badr:- Listen! Every Ahmadi is firmly established on the belief that the holy, noble, and righteous personage, whom people call Mirza Qadiani, is a Nabi chosen by God. (Badr, June 18,1908, p. 11).

Even the followers of Mirza Mah:mu:d ‘Ah:mad know that if the editor of Badr had believed that Holy Prophet is the Last and Final Prophet of G-d , then MQ cannot be chosen as a Prophet regardless of his belonging to any group or any‘Ummah what so ever.

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Page 5 of 9 5) Mah:mu:di: Mirza:’is do not deny the words Kh:ataman Nabi:yi:n (33:41) for Holy Prophet But deny its meaning of “ Last/Final Prophet” [‘:A:kh:iri: Nabi:]. This is the meaning taken by the Entire ‘Ummah. It is obvious and evident that they disbelieve that Holy Prophet as the Last and Final Prophet . Inspite of all this MJ says that they believe that Holy Prophet as Last and Final Prophet. This is a clear deception. MJ did speak an Absolutely Wrong and Infinitely Incorrect sentence about Mah:mudi: Mirza:is that they believe that Holy Prophet as the Last Prophet yet claim an ‘Ummati: Nabi: .

According to the Mah:mu:di: Mirza:’is :- 1) No one in the ‘Ummah can become a law-bearing Prophet / Nabi. 2) No one in the ‘Ummah can become a law- bearing Apostle/messenger.

3) No one outside the ‘Ummah can become a Prophet or an Apostle/ a Messenger.

But Mah:mudites do believe that Holy Prophet PBUH is not the Last/Final Prophet. Even they do not believe that the Holy Prophet is the Last/Final Apostle/Messenger.

So what the fallacy MJ tried to make in the minds of his followers in particular and those listeners who do not know the beliefs of Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is /Mah:mu:dies .

MJ confused the “Last Law Bearer Prophet” and the “ Last Prophet”.

MJ made a deliberate fallacy by confusing “ Last Law bearer Prophet” and “ Last Prophet” .

If MJ would not have been a fallacy maker , he would have said some thing as follow: Denouncers of the Finality of Holy Prophet believe that Holy Prophet is the Last law bearer Prophet and claim an ‘Ummati: Nabi: after him.

But MJ said what he said , just to deceive his listeners in general and followers in particulars.

Mah:mu:di: Mirza:’is disbelieve in that Holy Prophet Muh:ammad (PBUH) is the Last and Final of all the Prophets and no one shall become a Prophet after him . Mah:mu:di: Mirza:’is do not believe that Kha:taman Nabi:yi:n refers to end of Prophethood and that HOLY PROPHERT was the Last and Final [‘A:kh:ri:] Prophet /Nabi: in every sense . According to Mah:mudites this meaning is incorrect ( ‘Astagh:farullah Va Na’:udh:ubillah). Mah:mudites believe that Kh:ataman Nabi:yi:n in the meaning of “Stamp of Prophets”. They may assign some other meanings as well but they never assign the meaning of “Last / Final Prophet” .

6) Even Lahori: Mirza:’is do not deny that MQ used the words Prophet and Apostle/ Messenger for himself. According to Laho:rites [Laho:ri: Mirza:’is] MQ used these words Nabi: {Prophet} and Rasu:l {Apostle/Massenger} about himself in the lower meaning of Saints, and a Muhaddas ( One who is conversed), and not in the higher meanings Prophet and Apostle/Messenger . According to Laho:ri: Mirza:’is, the words Nabi (Prophet) and Rasu:l (Apostle/Messenger') are not only used for actual Prophets, as defined in Islamic terminology, but can also be applied in a metaphorical sense,in non-terminological meaning to someone who is neither a Prophet nor a Messenger /Apostle in the terminological meanings. They base this opinion on the former view of MQ. A pamphlet published in 3 rd February 1892 CE . Published by Muh:ammadi: Press Laho:re. Written by Gh:la:m Nabi: Sangsaz o Ka:tib. [Katib =Writer, but it does not mean author , it means copyist , so the word” written =copyist”] https://www.muslim.org/noclaim/state1-u.htm Page 5 of 9

Page 6 of 9 So Laho:rites attempt to interpret the final works of MQ according to the initial or medieival works.

7) Even Laho:rites know that the Mah:mu:dites do not accept Holy Prophet as the Last and Final Prophet, since Mah:mudites believe MQ as a Prophet and an Apostle?Messenger in the Real and Terminological meanings. To save their claim that Laho:ri: Mirza:’is believe in the Finality and Lasthood of Holy Prophet , the use the former words and sentences of MQ in which he had declared that use of such words for himself in his works are in Virtual and NonTerminological meanings.

POINTS TO BE NOTED 1] Even Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is know that if Holy Prophet is the Last and Final Prophet then no one shall become a Prophet after him regardless of being a Ummati: Prophet or Ghair Ummati: Prophet.So they deny the Lasthood and Finality of Holy Prophet [PBUH].

2]All the Muslims agree that , even to believe that a person has/can become an Ummati: prophet after Holy Prophet contradicts the Finality and Lasthood of Holy Prophet [S:.’:A.VS].

3] Even the Lahori: Mirza:’is realize that Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is do not believe that Holy Prophet is the Last and Final Prophet [ ‘A:kh:irul ‘Anbia:’ ].

4] All the scholars who belong to other religions, yet they have studied the religion of Mirza:’ism and its sects and cults agree that ,Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is do not believe that “Holy Prophet is the Last Prophet”.

Inspite of all this Mirza: Jhelumi claims that Mahmu:di: Mirza:’is believe that Holy Prophet is the last Prophet. This is very strange that no one in his audience was able to refute him , on his absolutely wrong sentence , proving that either his audience are nescience or troll . on next thought troll , since it is so well known that not even a layman can doubt.

Questions to Mirza: Jhelumi: .

There are some questions which do expose the

conspiracy of Mirza: Jhelumi: .

1] If a person believes that advent of ‘Ummati: Nabi: shall continue till the Doomsday, can such a person believe in that Holy Prophet is the Last and Final Prophet. If Mirza: Jhelumi replies in affirmation then it is exposed that he himself is the denier of the Finality Of Holy Prophet. Since this means that if someone / some sect believe in a series of Prophets till the doomsday , it is obvious and evident that this is a denial of the Finality an Lasthood of Holy Prophet.

If he replies in negation then , he must note that even to believe in single person that he has become a Ummati: prophet after Holy Prophet [Peace Be Upon Him] , is to deny the Finality and Lasthood of the Holy prophet , beyond any shadow of doubt.

2]Mirza Jhelumi: is of the view that a person can believe that the Holy Prophet is the Last/Final Prophet yet there can be atleast one ummati: prophet without contradicting his Finality and Lasthood.

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Page 7 of 9 On the other hand Muslims believe that there can be no Prophet of any type whether ‘Ummati: or Gh:air ‘Ummati: , after the Last and Final Prophet.

Can a Muslim hold the view , which is held by MIrza: Jhelumi: .

3] Why did Mirza Jhelumi not said?“ Any one who believes that a person has become a ‘Ummati: Prophet after Holy Prophet , denies the Lasthood and Finality of the Holy Prophet and disbelieves that Holy Prophet is the Last and Final Prophet”.

According to the Mah:mu:di: Mirza:’is, no person in the “Ummah can become a law-bearing Nabi. ; indeed, anyone who makes such a claim is a disbeliever and liar. Since no one can become a Nabi: after Holy prophet, neither from Inside ‘Ummah nor from Outside ‘Ummah, neither a Law bearer nor a Non-Law bearer , what so ever.

A POSSIBLE RESPONSE BY MJ [MIRZA JHELUMI:]

It is a formula type response that the sentences of Mirza: Jhelumi: are chopped off from the context. In this case Mirza: Jhelumi: is trying to prove that Mirza:’is are better then jews and Christians, contrary to “Isla:mic belief that Jews and Christians [people of Bible] are far more better than Mirza:’is .

So in the entire lecture MIrza: Jhelumi: did not refute the idea that Mah:mudi: Mirza:’is [Qadiani:s] believe that Holy prophet is the last prophet , presented by Mirza: Jhelumi himself during the time 0:02 to 0:12 of the video stated above.

So nothing is out of the context.

A QUANDARY FOR MJ If a person believes that Holy Prophet {PBUH} is the Last and Final Prophet in every sense then he cannot believe in that some one can become a Prophet whether from inside the ‘Ummah or from outside the ‘Ummah. If some one believes that atleast one person can become a Prophet after Holy Prophet {PBUH} either from inside the ‘Ummah or [Exclusive ‘OR’] from outside the ‘Ummah then he disbelieves in the Finality and Lasthood of the Holy Prophet.

If some one claims that he believes that Holy Prophet is the Last and Final Prophet , and yet Page 7 of 9

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some one can become or has become an ‘Ummati Prophet after Holy Prophet , his claim is self contradictory. It is just like the claim , that “There is only Onle G-d , yet there is at least one subordinate G-d”.

Why MJ often says such things which are certainly incorrect.

Why MJ is ascribing a belief to Mah:mudites , in which they do not believe in? Since it is obvious and evident that Mah:mu:dites do not believe in the Lasthood and Finality of Holy prophet and openly deny it. The answer is very simple.

MJ is just testing the blind following of his followers , so that he may know how uncritical they are in regard to him , and they have passed the text. MJ is quite sure that his followers are mentally prepared to accept any thing which is uttered by him , and this provides him a free license to say any thing without any fear of contradiction.

Disclaimer The author is “Ahlussunnah and cannot say any thing against the fundamental Axioms of ‘Ahlussunnah. How ever Author is not responsible for any distort of Meaning due to errors by the typist.

A simple request to the followers of Mirza: Jhelumi: Mirza: Jhelumi: is playing with the faith of Muslims regardless of their sects and cults.

He is playing with the Axioms and fundamentals of “Isla:m. How many proofs do you require to make you realise that apostate and heretic of of Jhelum is just an other deceiver , who deceives in the name of Sectless ‘Isla:m . Please listen to his lectures and analyse your selves .

You are informed and we shall not be held responsible on the Day Of judgement after the Doomsday.

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