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Colleges looking for a degree of respect Colleges Ontario seeks to offer three-year degrees Aaron Zaltzman News Editor Would not a credential by any other name smell just as sweet? Colleges Ontario, an advocacy organization representing 24 colleges across the province, including Fanshawe, is lobbying the provincial government to allow colleges to hand out three-year degrees. Currently, colleges are only allowed to offer diplomas for their three-year programs.

The provincial government looks at degrees in a very specific sort of way. We’re hoping they can change how they look at those distinctions and say these diplomas are merely degrees by another name. —Karen Horsman

Manager of media relations and communications for Colleges Ontario

“What we offer as three-year diplomas is viewed as a degree in other jurisdictions in the world,” Karen Horsman, manager of media relations and communications for Colleges Ontario, said. “We are just

hoping to bring our academic standards in line with what others have in the rest of the world.” The proposal to remove the distinction between diplomas and degrees came in response to a discussion paper released by the Ontario government this summer. One of the questions raised in the paper was the possibility of allowing universities to offer three-year degrees. Though few universities have shown enthusiasm for the idea, Ontario colleges are looking to take advantage of the opportunity. “In some cases, the option of a three-year degree could also improve the educational opportunities for students who were streamed away from a degree pathway in high school, but who find that their ambitions and abilities best suit a degree program,” College Ontario’s proposal paper, entitled “Empowering Ontario: Transforming Higher Education in the 21st Century,” read. Currently, Ontario colleges can offer degrees for four-year programs. Horsman said the government has to take another look at discerning between three-year programs in colleges compared to universities. “The provincial government looks at degrees in a very specific sort of way. We’re hoping they can change how they look at those distinctions and say that these diplomas are merely degrees by another

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name,” Horsman explained. “The government is looking to revolutionize post-secondary education, and we think this is part of it.” One issue at stake is the value of making a distinction between a university education and a college one. “I think, generally, we hear from students that they do value differentiation in the system, and find value in their university degrees,” Alysha Li, president of the Ontario Undergraduate Student Alliance, said.

“There is some worry that removing this distinction would somehow water down a university degree,” Horsman explained, adding the proposal was merely the first step in a long process. “We want a governing body to compare those two educations, to make sure they are compatible,” she explained. “We want to make sure that when students graduate from college with a three-year degree, we’ve had an outside body to make sure the standards and accreditation matches what we think

a three-year degree should have.” Colleges Ontario has been reviewing all the three-year programs offered in an effort to match the standards to university programs. “It’s an apple and orange, and while some are concerned the standards wouldn’t be high enough, we would make sure we had somebody to give it a stamp of approval,” Horsman said. “We would need to go through a huge process to get this done, and we’re asking the government to allow us to go through this process.”

Smoking bylaw a drag for Bud Gardens Jesica Hurst News Editor

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It’s been only a week since city council voted to support the latest smoking bylaw, but Brian Ohl, general manager of Budweiser Gardens, already has some concerns. According to Ohl, the bylaw— which will restrict people from smoking within nine metres of London playgrounds, municipal buildings and recreational sites— will do more harm than good in their specific situation. “I haven’t been formally told that [the bylaw] would apply to us, so right now we’re trying to do our research to find out exactly what areas it will apply to,” Ohl said. “If it does apply to us, our biggest concern is safety because smokers will have to leave our property. If we cut

someone off drinking here, they could go out for a smoke, and go have a couple more drinks somewhere else and that’s not a good thing for anybody.” Guests currently have two spots they can smoke outside the downtown venue—one on the north side on the sidewalk on Dundas Street, and one on the south side just outside the building. According to Ohl, staff currently monitors these areas so smokers can’t wander off and come back on their property as they please. Harold Usher, Ward 12 councillor, thinks Budweiser Gardens will be able to work something out with the city during the transition phase. “I’m sure that there is something that can be negotiated, but we have to be careful how we allow any buildings to [get around this

bylaw],” Usher said. “I’m sure we’re going to find places, like Budweiser Gardens, who will find it very difficult to accommodate the bylaw at the beginning, but I do believe people of London will understand.” Usher also noted municipal buildings are being included in the bylaw to eliminate smoking as much as possible. “We’re trying to reduce people smoking, and we have to start with our own buildings that we have jurisdiction over,” he explained. “We have to set the lead—it has to start with us.” If something can’t be worked out, Ohl said they would consider banning smoking entirely—similar to the model used by the Rogers Centre. “That’s also an option. Right now, we will consider everything.”


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