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Corporation commissioner candidates spar over energy


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RYAN BRYANT Daily Staff Writer Corporation Commissioner Jim Roth and challenger Dana Murphy debated Wednesday night about energy resources and how they can benefit Oklahoma. Beaird Lounge in the Oklahoma Memorial Union was packed with more than 100 people who came to see the candidates face off. Both Roth and Murphy said it is important to create additional energy sources for the state, and pointed to the economic potential of wind power and natural gas. They disagreed, however, on other topics. Roth emphasized the importance of putting Oklahoma first, while Murphy emphasized the DANA state’s oil and gas industry’s role in MURPHY the U.S. economy. “I’ve been working on your behalf since the governor gave me that opportunity,” he said. “It’s about people, and it’s about JIM the work that we do on behalf of ROTH everyone.” Roth said that he has qualifications and experience that Murphy lacks, and he criticized her stance on clean coal. He said clean coal in Oklahoma is a myth. “Oklahoma’s coal is not considered clean, in fact, its sulfur content is so high, it’s not burned here,” he said. “When someone is talking about the need to expand coal power for our state, that is a job creation opportunity for the state of Wyoming, not for us.” However, Murphy said that she believes all energy options should be on the table, and that includes coal and nuclear energy. “We already have coal-fired power plants, and we need to make sure we’re using those in the best way possible,” she said. “There is no one perfect fuel, they all have issues. We must use what we have.” Murphy also said she intends to restore the notion of what she calls the “Oklahoma dream.” She said all energy sources should be explored if they will ultimately create financial benefits and benefit the country as a whole.

Cotton Bowl Camaraderie With no class Friday, OU-Texas weekend begins early. The Daily concludes its threepart series with a look at the respect players and coaches from both teams have for one another. Page 8.

Preston Kunz, architecture sophomore, stops his Lance 50CC scooter Tuesday afternoon in the Dale Hall parking lot. Kunz, who bought the scooter on eBay for about $500, said it gets about 100 miles per gallon.

ARTS & ENTERTAINMENT In need of stress release? Art therapy could help — and it’s taught at OU. Read A&E’s feature on the course for more information. Page 9.

Photo by Michelle Gray/The Daily Photo Illustration by Amanda Turner/The Daily

NATION & WORLD Interest rates slashed The Federal Reserve, desperately trying to jump-start the economy, dropped its federal funds rate to its lowest level in more than four years. Central banks in England, China, Canada, Sweden and Switzerland and the European Central Bank also cut rates after a series of high-stakes phone calls over several days between Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and his counterparts. Page 5.

Journalists missing in Lebanon The U.S. Embassy in Beirut is appealing for information about the whereabouts of two missing 20-year-old journalists. Holli Chmela, 27, and Taylor Luck, 23, were on vacation in Lebanon from their jobs in Jordan, and have not been seen since Oct. 1. Page 6.


MEREDITH MORIAK Daily Staff Writer


ith the high costs of gasoline, the sales and visibility of motor scooters in Norman are increasing. Kris Glenn, marketing and public relations specialist for OU Parking and Transit services, said he has seen an increase in scooter use on both Norman streets and the OU campus. “You see the burliest of guys and the girliest of girls riding around on scooters,” Glenn said.

“There are also professional people riding around on their scooters in business suits.” Ralph Slayer, owner of Extreme Auto Options in Norman, said he has had a boom in scooter sales. He said he sold close to 30 scooters last year, but this year he expects to sell more than 150.

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Campus Corner was bursting with the sounds of Cory Morrow’s country music Wednesday night for the annual Pre-Dally Rally, hosted by Phi Delta Theta and Pi Beta Phi. The show benefitted the Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis Association, a research organization focused on discovering the cure to Lou Gehrig’s disease and the Arrowmont School of Arts and Crafts. In addition to Morrow’s set, the Phi Beta Sigma fraternity performed a stomp dance. The Pride of Oklahoma, OU Cheer and OU mascot Boomer also made appearances. Morrow took the stage just before 8 p.m, opening with “21 Days,” a song about being on the road. Before the second song of his set, Morrow Amy Frost/The Daily yelled out “Boomer” to the crowd, and folCountry singer Cory Morrow performs Wednesday night in the La Luna parking lot on Campus lowed it with an upside-down Longhorns Corner for the Pre-Dally Rally. Pre-Dally Rally is an annual philanthropy event held by Phi hand-symbol. Morrow was chosen to headline the rally Delta Theta and Pi Beta Phi before the OU-Texas football game.

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Country singer Cory Morrow croons on Campus Corner CALLIE KAVOURGIAS Daily Staff Writer

Friday is the deadline to register to vote in Oklahoma. Registered voters will be able to vote Nov. 4 for national and state offices and statewide ballot initiatives. State residents can register to vote at the Cleveland County Election board on Peters Avenue or the U.S. Post Office on Gray Street.

for two reasons, said Jason Bailey, Phi Delt philanthropy chair and finance junior. “Texas country music has been popular around here, so we kept with that theme,” Bailey said. “And he was a reasonable price, so we went with him.” Cameron Kuenzer, civil engineering sophomore, said he hung out with Morrow before the concert. “He’s a very nice guy,” Kuenzer said. “He plays some pretty big venues, and it’s cool that he would come to Norman for a philanthropy event like this.” Kuenzer said Morrow told him he was “bipartisan” in relation to the OU-Texas rivalry, but Morrow said to the crowd, “We’re here to support the Oklahoma Sooners. We’re here to build you up to go to Dallas.” Kuenzer said he’s “a huge fan” of Morrow. “More people should listen to him,” Kuenzer said. “His music’s true. He doesn’t change the way he sounds for money or

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Continued from page 1 “Whenever [gas prices] take a big jump like that, it spurs on and people are always buying scooters,” Slayer said. Slayer said more students are purchasing scooters, but the bulk of his business comes from baby boomers. “It’s something that has gone on worldwide for years, and we’re the last ones to get out of our Suburbans and Hummers and onto scooters,” Slayer said. “A lot of people just want [a scooter] for the savings on gas and insurance costs.” Allstate insurance agent Brandon Fisher said scooter insurance can be 50 to 60 percent cheaper than automobile insurance, depending on the individual’s driving record. Insurance coverage for a 21- to 25-year-old male costs about $185 annually, while rates for women in the same age range are slightly cheaper. Cheap transportation was the motivating factor for architecture sophomore Preston Kunz when he decided to purchase a scooter. He said he averages almost 100 miles on a 1.5 gallon tank. Kunz bought his scooter, which is worth $1,400, used on eBay for just over $500.

“I don’t see myself selling it anytime in the near future unless I could sell it for profit,” Kunz said. “And if I did, I would get another one.” Parking permit prices for scooters and motorcycles are cheaper than those for cars. “The cost of the parking permit at $39 for an entire year was a big selling point,” Kunz said. In 2007, parking services sold 157 motorcycle parking permits between Aug. 15 and Oct. 1. This year, 237 permits were sold, a 33 percent increase, Glenn said. There are 26 designated motorcycle parking areas on campus that can accommodate between five and 10 vehicles each, based on the size of bike and where they park, Glenn said. Kunz said he has not had a problem with parking on campus. Slayer said that scooters are becoming more popular, and he would like to see them fully embraced by the public. “This is a form of transportation and we’ve just got to get that into our heads,” he said. “You don’t have to have a giant car to go get a loaf of bread from the store.”

Morrow Continued from page 1 other influences.” After playing several more songs, including “He Carries Me” and “Restless Girl,” Morrow said to the crowd, “While you’re up you celebrate, while you’re asleep, you dream about celebrating.” He said that by the end of the night everyone would love each other. “You’re already hugging and kissing, making babies,” Morrow said. “Trust me, it’s gonna be awesome.” Richard Sims, energy manage-

ment and finance senior, said he is a Cory Morrow fan, but said he thinks the event did not draw a large enough crowd. Morrow also covered the Temptations’ song, “My Girl.” “It’s good — I like him,” entrepreneurship senior Ryan Reber said. “There should be more concerts like this on Campus Corner.” Morrow encouraged the crowd to clap, cheer and humalong throughout the concert. This is the first year the Pre-Dally Rally was a concert,

said Ashley Ross, Pi Beta Phi president and human relations senior. “We used to have food and a small band for entertainment, and it was held at the Phi Delt house,” said Allyson Dye, vice president of philanthropy of Pi Beta Phi and zoology junior. “We did this to get the Pre-Dally Rally back on track.” Dye said that when OU was a wet campus, Pre-Dally Rally was a much larger event. “It was more of a party then,” she said.


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Continued from page 1 “Oklahoma is proud to be where it is today, riding on the back of the oil and gas industry,” she said. “That is what has made Oklahoma what it is.” However, Roth argued that energy sources should come from within the state and be clean. Many of Roth’s supporters wore T-shirts or stickers, while Murphy’s supporters were less visible. Supporters of both Roth and Murphy said they thought their candidate won the debate. Esther White, a graduate student in meteorology, said she thought Roth was victorious. “My particular focus is clean energy,” she said. “I think that

somebody who is more actively involved in clean energy is, in my mind, going to do a lot more for the state over someone so involved with the oil and gas industry. The next generation has a huge task to invest in new technologies to cut our carbon emissions.” Marketing junior Daniel S w a n s o n t h o u g h t Murphy came out on top, because Murphy’s plan looks ahead. “I think Dana’s plan provides the most leeway for the future,” he said. “We would allow less regulation to decide where our energy needs dictate for us to go. I think with oil going up so much, we need to have all options on the table.”

CORRECTION Due to an editor’s error, The Daily’s Monday police reports incorrectly reported that Heath Robert Mackey was arrested for possession of marijuana, public intoxication, possession of alcohol and outraging public decency. Mackey was actually cited for social hosting. A guest at the party Mackey was hosting was arrested for the other violations.

A lab in the Chemistry Annex was damaged Tuesday night when a group of students accidentally started a fire while working on a chemistry project. “A couple of students were in the lab and one of their experiments kind of caught fire,” said Jay Doyle, press secretary and special assistant to OU President David L. Boren. The damaged lab was closed, but other labs in the building went on as usual Wednesday. The Chemistry Annex connects the Physical Sciences Center to the Chemistry Building, which is located on the North Oval.

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Amtrak offers affordable, convenient alternative to road trip • A $40 train ticket beats heavy traffic, high gas prices KEVIN HAHN Multimedia Editor

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Passengers board an Amtrak train Tuesday morning at the train depot in downtown Norman. The Amtrak stops in Norman twice a day as part of the Heartland Flyer route.

The masses will converge in Dallas, Texas this weekend for the annual Red River Rivalry game at the Cotton Bowl. The shootout has been played in Dallas for almost a century and many traditions have evolved over the years: the chants, the fair, the road trip to Dallas. I couldn’t wait for this game. Hold on. Road trip to Dallas? With these gas prices? Why would I want to drive into a city with already-bad traffic on a weekend with 200,000 extra people flooding the

WHITNEY ORTEGA Daily Staff Writer While some students would do anything to get their hands on tickets to the Red River Rivalry game, others are soliciting to have someone take the tickets off their hands. Listings for individual and grouped tickets range from $200 to $1,000 in several marketplaces like Big Red Tickets, which buys and resells tickets to the public. Big Red Tickets owner Josh Coffman said students are reselling their tickets for more money this year. He said he credits the price hike to OU’s win last year and that the team didn’t lose last week’s game against Baylor. Last year, individual tickets sold for an average of $125. This year, the price is between $175 and $200. He said the

ticket agency has bought individual tickets for up to $650, Coffman said. Students who are selling their tickets for high prices are likely to find a buyer, said Cody Stokes, accounting senior. “People are willing to pay to be down there and be in that environment. It’s OU-Texas and it’s a big tradition. On top of that, both teams are in the top five,” Stokes said. Coffman said most students will pocket the money but still travel to Dallas. “They’re just going to go to Dallas, hang out, party and take the money with them. That’s usually what we hear. Sometimes students have other tickets that their parents or someone else bought,” Coffman said. Tom Wagner, communications junior, is one student heading to Dallas after he sells his ticket, which is posted on The Daily’s marketplace for $1,200 for a group of four. He said the money from his ticket will go toward paying for his hotel and weekend expenses. “I’ve been [to the game] the past two years, so I figured I’d just sell my ticket this year, but I still want to go down there,” Wagner said. “My favorite thing about OU-Texas is everybody just

ing to the game. At $40 per round trip into downtown Dallas, I found it hard to pass up. Other people must have found it hard to say no, too. Tickets for the train are sold out, and the flyer has added two more cars and is searching for more. The low price of the train as compared to gas prices has made it more attractive than ever this year, said Brenda Perry, from the media division of the Oklahoma Department of Transportation. I am looking forward to my train ride with no traffic, plenty of naps and no bathroom stops. If you find yourself stuck on a highway that looks more like a parking lot, remember next year that the train is an excellent option. Check out my blog on to read more about my adventures in Dallas without a car.

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area for the game? Plus, I already swore off my car for two weeks in exchange for travel by bike, public transportation and carpools. How could I get to the game? An idea came to me KEVIN last week when I heard HAHN a loud horn as the train thundered along the track near my apartment. I remembered there is a train that travels from Oklahoma City to Dallas. I went to Amtrak’s Web site and was directed to the page for the “Heartland Flyer,” a train service that opened in 1999 and ended a 20-year period during which Oklahoma didn’t have a passenger train that traveled to north Texas. During OU-Texas weekend, Amtrak adds a special service for people travel-

being down there, the excitement.” Some students who sold their tickets said they attended the game before and wanted to make a profit off their ticket this year. “I think so many students sell their tickets because people pay a lot of money for them, and to a lot of college students, money is more important than a football game,” said Ashley Keener, advertising junior, who has been to the game the last two years and sold her ticket this year so she can go shopping in Dallas. Some students were indecisive about attending the game and are now trying to sell their tickets. Lee Williams, meteorology junior, is selling his ticket on The Daily’s marketplace for $275. He said he has been debating going to the game since buying the ticket, but decided to stay in Norman and catch up on schoolwork. Despite selling their tickets, many students plan on supporting the Sooners from their living rooms. Stokes is attending an OU watch party in Dallas. “Whether you’re at the game or watching the game on TV, it’s still going to be a good game,” Stokes said.

• Annual run from Norman to Dallas benefits Toys for Tots MELISSA MORGAN Daily Staff Writer Their running shoes are laced and the football is in the first runner’s hand. After weeks of preparation, 75 members of OU’s Naval ROTC are ready to cross the starting line for the annual Red River Run from Norman to Dallas, Texas. The battalion will leave Thursday at 7:30 a.m. from the armory bay. Battalion Commander Nathan Clark, 22, will be the first to carry the OU-Texas game ball and will lead the battalion on the 196mile trek from Norman to the Cotton Bowl to deliver the game-day football. Each member takes turns running along Highway 77 south to Dallas. Spencer Hart, meteorology sophomore, set a record by running 50 miles last year. The top two runners will receive two free tickets each to the OU-Texas game. Only the members of the battalion who are physically able may participate in the

run. “This run is not for the weak. Intestinal fortitude is absolutely required,” said Sgt. Matt Wagner, health and exercise science sophomore. Two vans, loaded with food and water for the run, follow the runners along the trek. Last year, the unit only brought one van, but membership in the Naval ROTC has more than doubled from 45 members last year to 104, said Midshipman Dylan Sharrock, sociology junior. “It’s a bigger deal this year because we have so many more people in the unit,” Sharrock said. The jump in membership is due to a larger freshman class and prior enlisted marines and navy soldiers finishing the program to become officers, said Midshipman Rob Boyles, 20, industrial engineer junior. OU’s Naval ROTC runs this trip every year to benefit the Toys for Tots charity fund, which was founded by the United States Marine Corps Reserve, said Lt. Matthew Osborn. Bob Stoops places the first toy in the box at 7 a.m. “We want to increase public awareness for Toys for Tots,” Michael Winn, University College freshman said. “It’s the main reason we do the run.”

THIS WEEKEND AT YOUR UNIVERSITY T hursday, Oct. 9 • AOI Organ Concert Series: Organ | Noon in Gothic Hall, Catlett Music Center.

• Guess The Score | 11:30 a.m. in the union food court. Think you know Sooner Football? Prove it at the Union Programming Board’s pre-game predictions for a chance to win great prizes. Play every Friday during football season to earn points and increase your chances of winning. Who Loves You, OU?

• Student Success Series: Reading Strategies | 4 p.m. in Carnegie Building, Room 200. Presented by University College.

• FREE Film: “Hancock” | 4, 7, 10 p.m. and midnight in Meacham Auditorium. Presented by the Union Programming Board and CAC Film Series.

• Dream Course: Russian Arts in the 20th Century | 4-6:30 p.m. in the Mary Eddy and Fred Jones Auditorium, Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art. “Arts in the Soviet State,” presented by Ken Stephenson, Music Theory and Sarah Reichardt, Music Theory. For more information call (405) 325-4938. • Asian American Student Association General Meeting | 5:30 p.m. in the Henderson-Tolson Cultural Center. Contact Jamie at for more information. • Art After Hours: Painting as Social Dialogue, Ben Shahn (1898 – 1969) | 5:30 p.m. in the Dee Dee and Jon R. Stuart Classroom, Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art. Best known for his works of Social Realism and his leftist political views, Shahn dealt with the political concerns of his time in his paintings and lithography. Light refreshments will be served. For more information call (405) 325-4938. • Fred Films: “The Snake Pit” | 7 p.m. in the Mary Eddy and Fred Jones Auditorium, Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art. Fred Films Presents “The Snake Pit” (1948/dir. by Anatole Litvak) 108 minutes. Free admission to students with a valid OU ID. For more information call (405) 325-4938. • American Artists from the Russian Empire Art Exhibition | Now thorugh January 4, 2009 at the Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art. Comprised of over ninety works by artists such as Nicolai Fechin, Leon Gaspard, Jacques Lipchitz, Mark Rothko, Ben Shahn, Pavel Tchelitchew, and Max Weber, this exhibition examines the impact of American culture on Russian artists living in the United States during the first half of the twentieth century as well as the lasting influence these same artists had on the development of American art. For more information call (405) 325-4938.

Friday., Oct. 10 • Oil, Gas and Power: Russia and the United States | 9 a.m.-12:30 p.m. in the Mary and Eddy Fred Jones Auditorium, Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art. A symposium of two panels: “The State of US-Russia Relations,” & “Energy Superpowers of the 21st Century: Russia and Oklahoma.” For more information call (405) 325-4938.

Soccer: OU vs. Missouri | 7 p.m. at John Crain Field. Come watch the OU women’s soccer team take on Missouri. Visit for ticket information. • Rock Band & Guitar Hero | 8 p.m. in Crossroads Lounge, Oklahoma Memorial Union. Rock out with the Union Programming Board on Rock Band for Nintendo Wii and Guitar Hero III for PS2 and get some FREE snacks! • Late Night Snacks | 9:30 p.m. in Meacham Auditorium Lobby, Oklahoma Memorial Union. Enjoy some free snacks courtesy of the Union Programming Board and then see the 10 p.m. showing of “Hancock.” Who Loves You, OU?

Saturday, Oct. 11 • Hatching the Past: The Great Dinosaur Egg Hunt | 10 a.m.-4 p.m., Oct. 11-Jan. 19 at the Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History. This remarkable hands-on exhibition offers an astounding array of authentic dinosaur eggs and nests collected from all over the globe - including those of each of the major plant and meat-eating dinosaur groups. A captivating experience for all ages. Local exhibition of “Hatching the Past” is made possible through the generous support of Chesapeake Energy. • OU vs. Texas Watch Party | 11 a.m. in Meacham Auditorium, Oklahoma Memorial Union. Don’t have tickets? Come and see the game for FREE on the big screen in Meacham. Presented by the Union Programming Board. • Volleyball: OU vs. Kansas State | 7 p.m. at the Howard McCasland Field House. Come watch the OU women’s volleyball team take on Kansas State University. Visit for ticket information.

Sunday, Oct. 12 • Soccer: OU vs. Kansas | 1 p.m. at John Crain Field. Come watch the OU women’s soccer team take on Kansas. Visit for ticket information.

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What happens in Dallas does not stay in Dallas Don’t be dumb in Dallas. The glory that is OU-Texas weekend always lends itself to memorable antics (if you can remember them, that is) and good, old-fashioned hating on those who unfortunately associate themselves with the Texas Longhorns. It also lends itself to police reports we are amused to read and stories we can’t believe people tell in public. So, before you make the trip south, remember that there are rules you should follow this

weekend to make it out of Dallas alive and not be haunted by what you did there. OUR VIEW You won’t is an editorial sleep this selected and debated by the editorial board weekend, so and written after a don’t plan majority opinion is on it. formed and approved by the editor. Our View Don’t eat is The Daily’s official six funnel opinion. cakes at the fair. Just don’t. When you’re on the verge of having a random weekend hook-


up, think again. The person who gave you herpes will go back to Austin, but the herpes will follow you right back to Norman. When driving in Dallas, stay calm. When traffic is at a dead stop at 9 a.m. and the guy decked out in burnt orange in the car next to you is yelling obscenities at your crimson-clad self, take a chill pill. (But not one that will make you fall asleep at the wheel.) Take a deep breath, turn up your music and remember that

he soon will be mourning the loss of a football game. Road rage will not help you. Don’t get too angry about the traffic. After all, you could be sitting in class. When you get to Dallas, don’t get so messed up on Friday that you can’t enjoy the game Saturday. And remember that alcohol infractions south of the Red River will earn you strikes north of the border. If you do drink, don’t get so hammered that you don’t keep

yourself safe. You may think you’re macho (both guys and girls), but absolutely do not walk around Dallas alone. There are some crazy fans out there. There’s a valuable lesson to be learned from the Texas fan who had his scrotum torn by an enraged OU fan last year: This rivalry can become violent. Wear a cup. When you encounter a Texas fan, be prepared to define “Boomer” and “Sooner.”

In case you don’t know, boomers were people who, during the late 1800s, believed Oklahoma’s “Unassigned Lands” belonged to everyone. Sooners were settlers who entered the land, often illegally, before it was officially open for settlement. Those Longhorns will quiz you. Know what you’re talking about. Enjoy the best football game of the year, but remember: What happens in Dallas doesn’t necesarily stay in Dallas.

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YOUR VIEWS Victoria’s Secret’s ethical values should have been examined In regard to the Oct.7th article about the Victoria’s Secret pop-up shop at a fraternity, I would like to address the use of our public space to advertise for a company with shady ethical values. The Victoria’s Secret booth is hosting a clothing drive for donations to the Women’s Outreach center, but how much work is this company actually doing to help? The OU students are probably doing more work to donate these clothes than the company itself. I wonder if any of the profits from this sale are going to be given back to the community. The article told of no such thing. It is unacceptable to let this company use our student space to advertise for their store because it does not value human resources. Is Victoria’s Secret “giving back to the community” of the textile factory workers? The Limited company, which operates Victoria’s Secret, contracts its textile production to a factory in Jordan. Workers face physical abuse from managers and are not given proper documentation by the factory to allow them to leave the industrial park. Workers are paid less than the required minimum wage and are not compensated for overtime hours. I am not degrading the philanthropic actions of a fraternity that is organizing a clothing drive. I plan to support their efforts by donating clothes. I just think we should look at more of the values of a company before we let it use our public space to advertise for its business by saying it is charity. SARAH WHITTEN ANTHROPOLOGY JUNIOR





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I was pleased to read that UOSA has taken up the banner of academic advising in a proactive way. There are a number of models employed for academic advising at OU. The Gaylord College of Journalism and Mass Communication uses a “professional adviser” model to advise its students. Encased in this model is the idea that faculty will be involved and available to discuss in-depth career-path questions, trends within the profession and opportunities within graduate school. Gaylord College students have expressed strong interest in having choices in their advising. One choice they do not have is whether to receive academic advising. It is required. Each semester, advising staff look ateach student’s file and progress to degree completion. Previously, this information was shared with the student in a one-on-one session in the adviser’s office, but students expressed a desire to have more flexibility regarding their academic advising. The use of electronic communication is a tool or an option — not a substitution for one-on-one individual advising. Matt Deeg, stated in the October 7, edition of The Daily that “Academic advising is probably one of the most important things, because it’s going to determine your career path.” Gaylord College could not agree more. Thank you, UOSA, for taking on this critical component of our University’s life. JOHN M. HOCKETT ASSISTANT DEAN FOR STUDENT AFFAIRS AND ADMINISTRATION GAYLORD COLLEGE OF JOURNALISM AND MASS COMMUNICATION

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the UOSA proposal concerning student advising. Faculty should be involved with student advising. It can be a rewarding experience for the student and faculty member alike. The problem is that advising tools like Degree Navigator or the complete set of degree checksheets (available online), are not used by students consistently. As a faculty adviser, I do not want to waste time walking a junior or senior through the Web site. That is time that should be devoted to career mentoring. Students have a responsibility to be ready for advising appointments and to have schedules ready for advisers to clear. They also need to get from from advisers what they need: career advice. Students who do not take ownership of their own degrees make the facultystudent advising process far less than it should be. DARREN PURCELL ASSISTANT PROFESSOR UNDERGRADUATE ADVISER DEPT. OF GEOGRAPHY

Tolerance does not mean giving up your own beliefs In response to Jelani Sims’ recent column on tolerance, I believe tolerance is when I agree to disagree with someone. I’m giving nothing up. I’m not compromising my views. I’m just saying I’ve got my way, and you’ve got yours. I only give up something if I care that the other person joins my belief; I never have.If someone disagrees, so what? I only care if I choose to. I have enough on my plate trying to figure out my classes, life and free food. Good luck on finding a group of 100 people who think the exact way you do. As for “evangelical” atheists: Absolutism is absolutism. MARS CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY COLLEGE FRESHMAN

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I am uncomfortable in churches, and I dislike the methods of many Christians. It’s often awkward. I am a church-going Christian. I love Jesus. I just can’t stand the way we often portray his love to others. To reiterate: I love Jesus. Without counseling, I have been healed of crippling guilt and shame that made me afraid of things like the doorbell and the telephone. I didn’t wish it away. Christ’s love and forgiveness, extended to me by accepting Christians, was what ultimately made me not obsessively check caller IDs out of insecurity. I didn’t accept Jesus immediately. My acceptance of Christianity was the result of a long-term commitment of one guy to love and accept me, arrogance and all. He didn’t tell me what to do; he accepted me for who I was. I wanted what he had, and what he has is a love of Jesus. That’s how Jesus operated. STEPHEN Jesus didn’t force anything on anyone. Jesus says some pretty hard stuff in the Bible, but he didn’t make CARRADINI people do anything. Jesus told the rich young man in Matthew 19 to sell all he had and give to the poor. He had to give up his wealth to put God first. The man didn’t take up the offer; he wanted money more than God. Jesus did not follow him, berate him, form a picket line around him, or shun him because he didn’t take up the offer. Jesus didn’t get offended or get all weird around him. He let the man do as he pleased. It’s his life. It’s his choice. Jesus will be there if/when he comes back, but he’s not going to hound this man mercilessly until he says yes. This is something everyone, Christian or not, should hear. You can’t force a person to believe something. You can’t force someone to want something. If people don’t want to change, they won’t. It’s as simple as that. Hopefully, I’ll be able to impact lives in a positive way for Christ, but sometimes people just like how they are. This leaves me with the reality that some people I know choose not to be Christians. I can go all Westboro Baptist and freak out on people who don’t know Jesus. But what good would it do? They would just get a bad impression of what I believe Christianity to be about. It’s not about dragging you into a set of rules. It’s about getting yourself right with God. I know it sounds all metaphysical and hippie-fied, but it happened to me. My friends can attest. No, I won’t be offended if you’re not a Christian. Nor will I tell you every time I see you that you’re wrong and need to convert. I would love for you to become a Christian, but it’s not for my agenda, glory or ego. I wish everyone would follow Christ because you can be healed of your hurt. If you don’t want it, I can’t convince you to believe it, and I won’t try. But I’m not going to hide it in my own life. If you ask me how I’m doing, there will probably be a reference to the Wesley Foundation or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship, because those ministries are a part of my life. I’ll offer to pray for you if you’re hurting. If you don’t want me to, OK But if you do, I will. If you want to know about Jesus, I’ll tell you about him. I’ll tell you about my transformation from the arrogant, hurting jerk that I was to the calm, joyful and healed person I am and am becoming. I’ll tell you how you can start moving toward that peace yourself. It’s our job as Christians to represent Christ as part of the loving God who offers this choice: “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” It isn’t a command. It’s not an ultimatum. It’s an offer. I hope you take it. But if you don’t want it, don’t take it. I can’t force you to, and I hope others respect your distance, too.


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Thursday, Oct. 9, 2008

Fed slashes From space engineer to bailout czar Treasury secretary taps interest rates •former NASA contractor as stocks drop to head bailout plan WASHINGTON — Wall Street bounced higher and lower Wednesday trying to make up its mind about an unprecedented coordinated interest rate cut by central banks around the world. In the end it settled on a familiar feeling — fear — and plunged again. The Federal Reserve, desperately trying to jumpstart the lending that keeps the U.S. economy moving, dropped its closely watched federal funds rate to 1.5 percent. The cut from 2 percent took the rate to its lowest level in more than four years. Central banks in England, China, Canada, Sweden and Switzerland and the European Central Bank also cut rates after a series of high-stakes phone calls over several days between Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and his counterparts. But the Dow Jones industrial average lost another 189 points, or 2 percent, to close at 9,258. It was the sixth straight day of losses for the Dow. The index has shed more than a third of its value, nearly 5,000 points, since its all-time high, set one year ago Thursday. The Dow opened down more than 200 points. Within an hour, it was up almost as much. A late morning selloff gave way to an afternoon rally, and the Dow was ahead for the day in the last half-hour of trading — then took a dive at the close. The day’s losses were lighter for the Nasdaq composite index and the Standard & Poor’s 500. And Wall Street as a whole fared far better than Asia, where some stock exchanges were down 9 percent, and Europe, where some lost 5 percent. The Fed acted in concert with the European Central Bank to make emergency interest rate cuts after the Sept. 11 terror attacks in 2001. But Wednesday’s cuts were unprecedented with the number of nations that participated, the Fed said. For millions of Americans, the Fed’s cut means borrowing money becomes cheaper. Home equity loans, credit cards and other floating-rate loans all fluctuate depending on what the Fed does. Bank of America, Wells Fargo and other banks cut their prime rate by half a point to 4.5 percent, also the lowest in more than four years, after the Fed announced its decision early Wednesday. Fed watchers believe the central bank might cut rates further when it meets later this month, and perhaps again in December, in hopes of cushioning the blow if the United States falls into recession. “Even if the financial crisis was put to bed today, that would still leave the economy in a probable recession,” said economist Ken Mayland, president of ClearView Economics. One day after a presidential debate that focused heavily on the economy, both major candidates embraced the Fed’s action. Both Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain described the crisis as global.

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ALLEN G. BREED Associated Press WASHINGTON — In a way, Neel Kashkari’s job has always been to keep it together. Today he’s known as the 35-year-old whiz kid appointed czar of the Treasury Department’s $700 billion financial bailout. But in a past life, he was a young engineer working on the James Webb Space Telescope, planned as the even-more-intricate successor to the iconic Hubble. Even then, Kashkari’s job was about maintaining stability and confidence. His work for NASA contractor TRW Inc. _ helping create a key latch _ was meant to keep the telescope from shaking apart in the “mini-earthquakes” it would endure in orbit, said his former supervisor, Scott Texter. Using pioneering techniques, Kashkari rigged up devices in the company’s Smart Structures Lab that measured distances to a precision of “an atom or two” and proved that the telescope could remain steady. “He’s a guy who tries to prevent dynamical disturbances, whether they were structural or financial,” said Texter, manager of the telescope portion of the project for Northrop Grumman Corp., which acquired the division of TRW that was working on the NASA contract. “I’m not at all surprised that the skills that Neel had ... as an engineer could be well brought to bear. I wish we had more engineers in Congress.” To many Americans, it might seem that the young man with the shaved head, dense, dark

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Treasury Department Assistant Secretary Neel Kashkari puts his jacket on as he arrives at the Dirksen Senate Office Building on Sept. 23 on Capitol Hill in Washington. Kashkari has been selected to head the Treasury’s new Office of Financial Stability. eyebrows and intense, brown-eyed stare is coming out of nowhere _ or that someone barely six years out of business school may not be equipped to handle a sum comparable to the cost so far of the Iraq War. But he is part of a domestic finance team at Treasury that has been working 18-hour, Diet Coke-fueled days for months behind the scenes on the mortgage and securities crisis, and he would tell people they shouldn’t be focused on his relative

youth. “I’d say that at the end of the day, what’s most important is to have the trust of the secretary, and the president for that matter,” he told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Wednesday. “... let’s also not oversell what I’m doing. You know, Secretary (Henry) Paulson is the guy making the ultimate decisions on where we’re going to be deploying this and in what form.”

World markets slide again despite shocking rate cuts LONDON — World stock markets swooned once more Wednesday as concerns about the state of the global economy outweighed a coordinated rate cut by top central banks aimed restoring confidence in the world’s crisis-stricken financial system. Stock markets initially took heart in the news the U.S. Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the European Central Bank and others had cut their key interest rates by a half-percentage point. But the rally soon dissipated amid severe stresses in lending markets. “The coordinated interest rate cuts got the ‘thumbs down’ from equity markets, suggesting we have not yet turned the corner in this financial crisis,” said John Higgins, senior markets economist at Capital Economics. Central banks in Brazil and Mexico, meanwhile, intervened to prop up their local currencies, which have come under severe pressure as investors flee for safer havens.

The FTSE 100 index of leading UK shares initially rose, then slid back into the red, closing down 238.53, or 5.2 percent, at 4,366.69. France’s CAC-40 lost 235.33 points, or 6.3 percent, to 3,496.89, while Germany’s DAX finished 313.01 points, or 5.9 percent, weaker at 5,013.62. In the U.S., major indexes spent much of the afternoon in positive territory before retreating at the last minutes of trading, leaving the Dow Jones industrials down 189.01 points, or 2 percent, at 9,258.10. The coordinated rate cuts were intended to send a strong message as well as keep the credit crisis from further damaging the wider economy as companies struggle to borrow for everyday and long-term needs. Fearful banks are refusing to lend to one another and markets in commercial paper, or short-term unsecured company debt, have been frozen.

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US: 2 American journalists missing in Lebanon Calls to talk to ZEINA KARAM Associated Press BEIRUT, Lebanon — Two American journalists vacationing in Lebanon have not been heard from since Oct. 1 and are believed missing, the U.S. Embassy said Wednesday, appealing for information on their possible whereabouts. An embassy statement said Holli Chmela, 27, and Taylor Luck, 23, reportedly left Beirut en route to the northern Lebanese port city of Tripoli. The city is a predominantly Sunni Muslim city where militants and Islamic fundamentalists are known to be active. It has witnessed sectarian fighting in the past few months as well as two car bombs targeting Lebanese troops that killed 25 people and left dozens others wounded. Earlier this week, the embassy had issued a statement to its citizens about potential violent actions targeting Americans in Lebanon and called on its nationals to increase their security awareness. It said the threats were particularly high in the first half of October. The embassy says the pair had arrived in

Lebanon on Sept. 29 from Amman, Jordan for a vacation and told a friend on Oct. 1 that they were traveling from Beirut to Tripoli through the coastal town of Byblos in the north that day. They were then to cross by land to Syria before returning to Jordan where they were due to Taylor report to work on Oct. 4. “The families ... are asking for Luck the public’s assistance in providing information on the possible whereabouts of the two U.S. citizens,” the statement said. Lebanese security officials told The Associated Press they are searching for the two. The officials said authorities are searching for the two based on information they had gone missing and were trying to ascertain whether they had left the country. They spoke on condition of anonymity in accordance with military regulations and because of the sensitivity of the subject. The alleged disappearance of the two Americans was reported earlier Wednesday by the local

Al-Akhbar newspaper, which said they arrived in Lebanon Sept. 29, stayed in a hotel in Beirut and checked out the next day, without leaving the country. They have not been heard of since, it said. A Jordanian security official confirmed that the two were Holli believed missing. He said U.S. Chmela authorities in Beirut were investigating and that Jordanian authorities are not involved. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the press. The U.S. Embassy said it was coordinating efforts with embassies in Amman and Damascus as well as with the State Department in Washington. Nimr Shalala, manager of the Beirut hotel where Chmela and Luck had stayed, said they left the hotel Sept. 30 after a one-night stay. “They checked out, took all their belongings and didn’t say anything,” he told the AP.

Hamas begins regulating Gaza tunnel smugglers KARIN LAUB Associated Press RAFAH, Gaza Strip — Gaza’s smugglers are going legit: Owners of the scores of tunnels running under the Gaza-Egypt border have registered with the Hamas authorities, pledged to pay workers’ compensation and hooked up their operations to the electricity network. The once clandestine business has come out into the open. In one place, dozens of large tents, each marking a tunnel work site, were pitched just yards from an Egyptian watchtower beyond the border wall. With the Gaza Strip’s borders virtually sealed by Israel and Egypt for the past 16 months, the tunnels — some 200 by conservative estimate — are among the territory’s main lifelines and are seen as vital for keeping the Islamic militant Hamas in power. “The tunnels have become the main source of commodities in Gaza, and every day the closure continues, the importance of the tunnels increases as well,” said Gaza economist Omar Shaaban. The underground imports — from refrigerators, food and clothes to fuel and anti-tank rockets — help keep Gaza’s economy afloat. But Israel says they are also building up Hamas’ arsenal.

After seizing power, Hamas initially shut down some tunnels, in part to prevent its political foes from fleeing. However, since then it has largely allowed smugglers to operate, and in recent months has stepped up its supervision. “We are watching what is coming through and we prevent the entry of weapons and drugs,” said spokesman Ehab Ghussen, spokesman for Gaza’s Interior Ministry, adding that the tunnel trade would be halted if borders reopen. Egypt is aware of the Hamas involvement but so far has not made it a central issue in its contacts with the Gaza rulers. It denies allegations that Egyptian officials are involved in the smuggling. The tunneling dates to the 1980s, when Israel returned the Sinai Desert to Egypt, and intensified after Hamas seized power in 2007, provoking Israel and Egypt to cut the Gaza Strip off from the outside world. Smugglers increasingly brought in consumer goods, along with weapons, and now work openly, as a recent visit to one site demonstrated. Motorized pulleys hummed, trucks rumbled across the bumpy terrain to pick up merchandise coming from Egypt, and foreman Abu Nafez took a visitor inside one of the tents to show a vertical shaft that went down 35 feet,

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A Palestinian smuggler communicates with others on the opposite side of a tunnel used to import goods from Egypt to the Gaza Strip in Rafah refugee camp, in the southern Gaza Strip. Gaza’s smugglers are going legitimate: The owners of hundreds of tunnels running under the Gaza-Egypt border have registered with the Hamas authorities, signed pledges to pay workers’ compensation and hooked up their underground operations to the local electricity network. then headed half a mile southwest, under the border and into Egypt. Abu Nafez, a 33-year-old former cabdriver who declined to give his full name, said he now earns enough to feed his seven children and even save money, though his knees are swollen

from crawling in cold, damp soil. Hamas inspectors are notified of each delivery and check it on site, he said. Tunnels, dug with electrical drills, are just high enough to enable workers to move on all fours.

Taliban increase ahead of Thursday NATO meeting GREGORY KATZ Associated Press LONDON — When NATO defense ministers meet in Budapest on Thursday, they will face a worsening situation in Afghanistan and vexing questions about whether the war can be won. Increasingly, military commanders and political leaders are asking: Is it time to talk to the Taliban? With U.S. and NATO forces suffering their deadliest year so far in Afghanistan, a rising chorus of voices, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates and the incoming head of U.S. Central Command, have endorsed efforts to reach out to members of the Taliban considered willing to seek an accommodation with President Hamid Karzai’s government. “That is one of the key longterm solutions in Afghanistan, just as it has been in Iraq,” Gates told reporters Monday. “Part of the solution is reconciliation with people who are willing to work with the Afghan government going forward.” Gen. David Petraeus, who will become responsible for U.S. military operations in Afghanistan as head of U.S. Central Command on Oct. 31, agreed. “I do think you have to talk to enemies,” Petraeus said Wednesday at an appearance at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, when asked about potential dialogue with the Taliban. “You’ve got to set things up. You’ve got to know who you’re talking to. You’ve got to have your objectives straight,” he said. “But I mean, what we did do in Iraq ultimately was sit down with some of those that were shooting at us. What we tried to do was identify those who might be reconcilable.” In terms of Afghanistan, he said: “The key there is making sure that all of that is done in complete coordination with complete support of the Afghan government _ and with President Karzai.” But entering negotiations with the Taliban raises difficult issues. It is not clear whether there is a unified Taliban command structure that could engage in serious talks, and the group still embraces the hard-line ideology that made them pariahs in the West until their ouster from power in 2001.

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Who will be this weekend’s X-factor? t doesn’t take a genius to figure out this weekend will mark OU’s biggest game of the season and could catapult the Sooners toward a national championship. It will feature two great quarterbacks who run their offenses to perfection. But neither of them are the key to the game. Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy are both obviously very dangerous, and they have deservedly gotten much of the national attention surrounding the game. But really, their skills cancel out. Everyone is expecting them both to step up under pressure and play well. So who will be the X-factor? Who will be the difference between victory and defeat? Will it be DeMarco Murray? He has yet to really show the explosiveness we saw from him last season. But it will be hard to expect him to thrive this weekend against Texas’ stout run defense. Will it be one of Sam Bradford’s seemingly endless list of weapons at receiver? In OU’s five games, four different players have led the team in It’s a foregone conclusion that someCOREY receiving. one will step up again. DEMOSS The key to this game for the Sooners isn’t part of the offense. The players who will ultimately determine who wins this game will be the duo of cornerbacks Brian Jackson and Dominique Franks. At the beginning of the season, the secondary was considered to be one of the team’s greatest weaknesses. But Jackson and Franks have both played exceptionally well. Jackson has been in almost perfect position on every pass he has faced in the last few games, and he was an instrumental part of holding Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin to just 75 yards passing. Franks’ name has almost never been called the last few weeks because the players he covers are never open and thus never see any passes. But this week will mark their biggest challenge yet. Colt McCoy is by far the most accurate and efficient quarterback they have faced, and Texas’ top two receivers — Quan Cosby and Jordan Shipley — are the best 1-2 punch they have faced. It has been good to see both Jackson and Franks make such large strides in a short amount of time, and it has been in their best interest to be gradually introduced to superior opponents. This matchup would have worried me if it had been played at the beginning of the year. But seeing how dominant Jackson and Franks have looked, I’m confident they will be able to slow down the Texas attack enough for OU to come out on top. And since my last score prediction was so close, I’ll go ahead and try it again: Sooners win 38-28.



SPORTS BRIEFS Men’s Basketball No. 1 in Big 12 coaches poll In the annual Big 12 preseason coaches poll, the OU men’s basketball team has been picked to win the conference for the first time in the 13-year history of the Big 12. The Sooners received three first-place votes, and received 109 total points, barely inching past Texas (107 points), Baylor and Kansas (103 points each). “It’s going to be a very tight Big 12 race this season,” head coach Jeff Capel said. “The coaches poll is a perfect example of the depth of our conference. We are looking forward to an exciting league race.”

Women’s Basketball also picked No. 1 The women’s basketball team was also picked to win the Big 12, but by a much wider margin. The Sooners received seven first-place votes and a total of 124 points. Texas finished No. 2 with 95 points and one first-place vote. This is the second time in three years the Sooners have been picked to win the conference, and the third time since the conference began. “We are humbled by this selection considering the wealth of talent in our league,” head coach Sherri Coale said. “There are 11 other teams in our conference who will challenge us each and every night for that top spot.” The simultaneous No. 1 selections of both teams is the first time in Big 12 history any school has been picked to win both conference races.

Soccer promotions offered this weekend The OU soccer team will take on No. 25 Missouri this Friday and Nebraska this Sunday. On Friday, the first 500 fans will receive an OU pom-pom and the game will be followed by a post-game autograph session with the players and coaches. Sunday is Sooner Kids Club Day where there will be special pregame activities for all members in attendance. In addition, kids eat free on Sunday with a free coupon available at the gate that can be used at the concession stand.

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The OU offense and Texas defense prepare to face off during last year’s matchup. The Sooners won that contest 28-21 and went on to win the Big 12. The two teams will renew their rivalry at 11 a.m. this Saturday at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.

OU-Texas now on the horizon •Sooners prepare to take on dangerous rival

ing four touchdowns and only one interception. Stoops said this year McCoy’s athleticism is more dangerous than it has been in years past. KYLE BURNETT “He is just more sure of himself and confiDaily Sports Writer dent and polished in what he’s doing,” Stoops said. “I think he’s taken advantage of his opporTwo teams will meet on the gridiron tunities and has done a good job at it; we’ve Saturday in one of the most anticipated rivalry always thought of him as a great athlete.” games of the year. The Longhorn rushing attack — excludBoth OU and Texas are ranked in the top ing McCoy — is powered by freshman Cody five in the Associated Press polls, and both are Johnson and sophomore Vondrell McGee. hoping to continue their respective national Neither running back for the ‘Horns has title hopes. recorded a 100-yard game this year, but they “It’s a great challenge to play a really good have been sharing carries. Texas team,” head coach Bob Stoops said. “I Johnson has carried 50 times for 193 yards always think Mack Brown does an excellent (3.9 avg) and six touchdowns while McGee job, they always have a great deal of excellent has 50 carries for 187 yards (3.7 avg) and has athletes and players.” found the end zone once. Stoops is 6-4 against the Longhorns, but this The OU linebackers are up to the challenges year both teams are equally matched statisti- the Longhorn offense presents, Venables said. cally. Junior linebacker Ryan Reynolds, who coaches said graded highest against Baylor, has been leading the team with his infectious The Longhorn Offense energy and clean play. Junior quarterback Colt McCoy has Texas’ With the departure of star wide receiver offense running smoothly with his ability to Limas Sweed to the NFL, Texas now has a duo command the team and create plays through of senior wide receivers for McCoy to target. improvisation. The duo consists of Jordan Shipley and McCoy has put up outstanding numbers Quan Cosby. Cosby has the most receiving through the air, but yards with 416, but the bigger surprise has Shipley has scored been his success on seven times on 24 the ground. receptions. He leads the OU’s defensive Longhorns with 317 backfield will have yards rushing and their hands full with seven yards per carry, the talented group. while no other player However, junior on the team has more cornerback Brian than 200 yards or six Jackson said he is yards per carry. confident in his “He’ll slice and dice teammates and his on us all day, so we abilities to shut have to get pressure down Texas’ receivon the quarterback,” ers. defensive coordinator “You got to be pre— Cornerback Brian Jackson pared Brent Venables said. for whatever “We have to use our they throw at you,” front four because he’s really good, and we Jackson said. “Me and Dominique [Franks] have to do that in early downs to make sure are feeling really comfortable back there and he’s feeling pressure.” just because they don’t have a big name guy McCoy has been in the Red River Rivalry doesn’t mean they can’t put up big numbers so twice before and is no stranger to the pressure you got to be prepared for each play.” the game creates. Jackson added that it will be important to In fact, McCoy has completed 68 percent continue doing what has made him successful (30-of-44) of his passes against OU while toss- so far this season.

“They’re a great team, but it’s just another game. It’s another challenge, another day to compete and you have to bring your A-game.”

“They’re a great team, but it’s just another game,” he said. “It’s another challenge, another day to compete and you have to bring your A-game.”

The Longhorn Defense Junior linebacker Roddrick Muckelroy leads Texas in tackles with 40, while junior linebacker Sergio Kindle is No. 2 with 21 tackles. The duo of senior defensive tackles Brian Orakpo and Roy Miller and the experienced linebacker corps leads to a very potent run defense. Consequently, Texas is only allowing 51.8 yards per game on the ground. “It will be important, and it will be a big match up,” Stoops said. “Also, can we give Sam enough time to throw, and can we run the ball? That will be a big question.” Besides stopping the run, the ‘Horns are getting pressure on the quarterback exceptionally well. “They’re a real good defensive football team, especially up front,” sophomore quarterback Sam Bradford said.” They’re going to try to bring pressure on the quarterback and make me throw it quick.” As a team Texas has 19 sacks, six of those coming from Orakpo on the defensive line. “It’s a big matchup, they do have excellent team defense,” Stoops said. “They have had a lot of sacks, pressure and they stunt you different ways.” In the game against TCU, the Sooners did not run the ball as effectively as they would have liked. Bradford said that will be key against the Longhorns. “We need to establish the run game, it’s very important,” Bradford said. “I think coach gave us a stat that one of the teams, for so many years has won if they run for more, so obviously it’s very important.” TCU has only been allowing 22.3 yards per game on the ground, and the Sooners didn’t do much better than that with 25 yards on the day. “I’m sure [the Longhorns] have seen that game,” Bradford said. “I would expect them to do some things similar to TCU to stop our run game.” Stoops is confident that Bradford has the maturity necessary to make the decisions necessary to win. “I think he is really fast at recognizing things and he’s a great athlete,” Stoops said. “It’s just an example of his poise and demeanor as a young man, and his skill athletically, and mentally.”


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Heated rivalry breeds mutual respect Editor’s Note: This is the final day of a three-part series on the OU-Texas rivalry

• Players are aware of what is riding on this year’s contest JOEY HELMER Daily Staff Writer With a rivalry as intense as OU-Texas, fans on both sides of the Red River have developed a hatred of the opposing team. But how do the players and coaches on the sidelines feel? Many of the players and coaches know each other quite well, and at the heart of the rivalry is a healthy respect for one another. Senior wide receiver Juaquin Iglesias has an interesting story that fuels his motivation to win against the ‘Horns. Iglesias, from Killeen, Texas, spent the summer working out with Roy Miller, senior defensive tackle for the Longhorns, who is also from Killeen. “He texted me after the Baylor game,” Iglesias said. “We’re really good friends, but he talks some trash. It’s one of those [things] that we know it’s all in good fun.” Does Miller have the same type Aaron Cooke/The Daily of motivation after growing up with OU safety Nic Harris (5) scoops up the ball during last year’s Red River Rivalry. The play was eventually ruled an incomplete pass, but the Sooners were able to force Texas quarterback Colt McCoy into Iglesias. “Juaquin Iglesias went to Killeen two turnovers. McCoy has looked impressive so far this season, and both teams realize they must be at their best in order to win this weekend. High School, which was one of my rivals in high school,” Miller said. “It path to a national title. “It becomes a big deal for anybody never stops. But we’re good friends. I “We know that after this game one that goes to your school,” he said. was recruited with a lot of those guys team will still be undefeated and have “This game is going to have national on that team. I had a chance to sit and its hopes of a national championship title implications most of the time. It’s watch games with them while they alive,” Iglesias said. two historically great teams, so it just Cotton Bowl flyover were being recruited.” Junior linebacker Keenan Clayton sets the stage for a great game.” Members of the Louisiana-based Air Force wing 2nd Bomb Wing will participate in a B-52 That is the type of story that makes echoed those sentiments. Texas players don’t feel any diffl yover at the Cotton Bowl Saturday. this rivalry special. The Red River “With this being such a big rivalry, ferently. They value the game and its Acccording to an Air Force press release, the flyover will be dedicated to the crew of Raider Rivalry goes a long way toward deter- you got the No. 1 team and the No. 5 importance to a national championmining who wins the Big 12 South. 21, a plane that crashed off the coast of Guam July 21. Two particular crewmembers who were team in the country, it’s going to take ship and have respect for the north Whichever team loses not only things to a whole other level,” Clayton side of the Red River. killed in the crash will be honored. gains a game on the other team, but said. “[The game] means a lot,” said UT Maj. Christopher Cooper, the aircraft commander, was a University of Texas alumnus and also owns the Both pro- senior running back Chris Ogbonnaya. “avid Longhorn fan.” Maj. Brent Williams was an OU alumnus and Sooner football season-ticket tiebreaker if the grams have “It’s a tradition and rivalry game, and holder. teams finish with been so histori- we have a lot of great respect for There will be a tribute to the two men during the national anthem at Saturday’s game, and a the same record. cally successful Oklahoma.” family members and military friends of the two men will be at the game. This means the Ogbonnaya added the OU-Texas that the playwinner will have ers involved are game is an example of college football Sooners could be at full strength to lose two games aware they will at its best. before the end of “It’s just what college football is be involved in a All OU players were capable of taking part in practices this week, and all may be capable of the season. dogfight every all about and what it should be like playing Saturday. “It’s more — two great teams vying to play one year. The defensive line has been particularly damaged, with injuries to defensive tackles Gerald than just brag“It’s a big another,” he said. McCoy and DeMarcus Granger and defensive end Frank Alexander. ging rights now,” UT junior quarterback Colt McCoy game, I don’t McCoy sustained a minor injury in last week’s game against Baylor, and should be able to said head coach think it really said the same thing. start this weekend. Bob Stoops. “It’s “Two top five teams in the Cotton matters where Granger and Alexander are bigger question marks. Granger tore ligaments in his foot against — Head coach Bob Stoops you come from Bowl in a rivalry game. The atmoan inside track Washington and Alexander was stabbed during an altercation in late August. or one up on the once you real- sphere in the game is awesome,” “Right now our trainers are pretty optimistic and feel that everyone will be ready to play,” other guy on your ize the history McCoy said. way to a championship, hopefully. I behind the series,” said junior defenhead coach Bob Stoops said. “Now, I’m not going to detail it the whole week on who is where, So while fans are going crazy in the think being in the same division has sive end Auston English. stands and shouting chants back and what percentage. 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Prescription to paint • How art therapy became my ‘emotional salvation’ reativity is my psychological fix. Let’s face it — in a society full of antidepressants, anxiety-reducing drugs and a therapist for even the deepest emotional garbage, it is sometimes CASSIE RHEA hard to find the perfect remedy for life’s stressful curLITTLE veballs. Trust me, I know. At a young age in my life my “remedy rights” were read to me when multiple doctors diagnosed me with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I’ll admit, I tried a variety of methods to calm the perfectionist in me. In the end, however, I found that much of the treatment didn’t kill the neurotic bug living in my head. Luckily, after spending a good amount of time courting the different socalled “cures” for my anxiety, I found the secret. My emotional salvation — art therapy. That’s right, it wasn’t strong drugs or expensive counselors that soothed my mind during times of emotional meltdown. It was a few bottles of paint in primary colors with a little modge-podge on the side. Now, I’m not saying that every problem can be cured with a few paintsplattered collages, but I do firmly believe that letting loose the creativity within can boost those neurotransmitters as well as anything. According to the American Art Therapy Association, art therapy is a creative process of art-making to improve and enhance the physical, mental and emotional well-being of individuals that is based on the belief that the creative process helps people resolve conflicts and problems and increases self-awareness. I’ll admit that I’m no doctor, and in some cases many would argue that a pill enhanced their equilibrium, but I do think it’s important to unleash the inner artist before completely relying on meds to make you happy. Whether it’s a good session of belly-dancing, a garden, or, as it is for me, a creative work of artistic chaos, I suggest giving yourself a chance to resolve the problem on your own terms and, if nothing else, you’ll have a creative masterpiece to show for it in the end.


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LEFT: Student artwork is displayed Monday in the Art Therapy Theory class inside the Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art. RIGHT: Hanh Nguyen, interior design sophomore, holds up his artwork Monday in Art Therapy Theory class.

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•Students find stress relief, creative expression in art therapy course With the stress and pressures of school and work weighing down on students, it can be hard to find ways to relax. Enter art therapy. Loosely defined, art therapy incorporates art materials into helping individuals express themselves psychologically. While some may doubt its legitimacy, it has become an accepted technique in the health care profession and is commonly practiced in therapy. Kristina Ice is a licensed professional counselor who is in her fourth year of teaching art therapy at OU. Her Art Therapy Theory course gives students the opportunity to develop skills that can help students cope with anxieties, health issues and traumatic events. “We do creative projects geared toward first hand experience of how to use reality as emotional expression,” said Ice, who also works

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“Deep in the Pantry” by Curtis Jones is constructed of screenprinted paper hats. The piece will be on display at the Mainsite Contemporary Art gallery, 122 E. Main St., beginning Friday and through Nov. 29.

at a private practice in Norman. Throughout the semester, students are asked to keep a journal that explores different art media and expression. “We draw a picture a day, and I really feel like it is therapy for me because I can relax and just enjoy being creative,” said Jessica Glavas, a finance senior enrolled in the course. For the mid-term, students use their life experiences, interests and skills to make a statement, or self-portrait, about themselves using art. Though grades may be important in the class, students seem more focused on the techniques they are learning. “You don’t have to be an artist to do well in the class,” said Q Phan, communications senior. “Instead of being graded on our art, we are graded on how well we grasp the concepts.” Students see the techniques they are learning work with a broad scope of people, from the elderly to those with disabilities. The techniques are even helpful with personal problems, Ice said. “I’ve learned that art therapy is much more commonly used than I ever would have thought, and that it really seems to be effective,” Glavas said. As a final, students are asked to take action in their communities. Previous classes have sent art kits to Hurricane Katrina victims and sexually abused children or constructed murals for the elderly. “I hope students walk way with a different perspective for people who need support in counseling,” Ice said. “I want them to see how art therapy affects people’s lives and walk away with a tool in their own lives.”

Mainsite Contemporary Art gallery to feature local, LA-based artists JAMES LOVETT Daily Staff Writer Poetic collage, screen printing and contemporary sculpture will all be included in an art exhibition opening Friday at Mainsite Contemporary Art, 122 E. Main St. The downtown gallery will feature work from local artists Skip Hill and Curtis Jones, as well as sculptures from Los Angeles-based artist Xvala. The exhibit will run Friday through Nov. 29. Christian Pitt, Mainsite managing director and curator, said the gallery has provided opportunities for artists to showcase their work for almost 10 years. “Our primary focus is to provide contemporary art to Oklahoma,” she said. “We show both local and national artists, and international artists when we can.” Skip Hill, a former fine arts student at OU, will exhibit collagebased art that mixes language and text from around the world. Hill said his art is heavily influenced by his travels and studies. “I’ve lived in Oklahoma off-and-on since I was 12 and I’ve traveled a lot,” he said. “I’ve lived primarily in Europe and I’ve also lived in Bangkok, Thailand. When I came back to the States I kinda drifted around before I decided to go back to school,

and I was here in Oklahoma at the time so I went to OU.” Hill said he incorporates text from across the globe because of an admiration for the poetic feel that language can instill in a person. “My main technique is collage and language,” he said. “My influences are just as much African as they are Asian, and I enjoy art history so I make a lot of references to art history in my work. It’s always amazing when I run into someone that recognizes their language in the work. It’s not necessarily important that you understand every language. Just the visual appeal of the different languages enhances the appreciation of other cultures.” OU printmaking professor Curtis Jones will also have works featured in the upcoming exhibit. His installations include combinations of ink, watercolors and printing. Jones said that while he is passionate about his career, he wants students to understand the commitment required for pursuing art as a degree. “It’s not an applied degree,” he said. “You’re not necessarily gonna have a job waiting for you when you get out. It’s something that takes a lot of patience and figuring out as you go. You never know when an opportunity is going to come up and you always


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Rivals competing for voters’ trust on economy LIZ SIDOTI Associated Press WASHINGTON — With the deepening U.S. economic crisis rippling around the globe, Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain seem to agree the question facing anxious voters is: Who do you trust? “All we heard from Sen. McCain was more of the same Bush economics that led us into this mess,” Obama said in Indianapolis the day after their second debate. “He thinks we won’t notice” downsides of his health care proposals, but “we’re not going to be hoodwinked. We’re not going to be bamboozled. We’re not going to let him get away with it.” In Bethlehem, Pa., McCain shot back: “I don’t need lessons about telling the truth to American people.” And, McCain said, if he ever did, he “probably wouldn’t seek advice from a Chicago politician.” On taxes, health care and subprime mortgages, McCain said Obama “won’t tell you” his real record. Each also rolled out new TV commercials suggesting his rival was not telling the truth, and campaign aides for both launched other character attacks. With the election in four weeks and the final debate in one, Obama leads in key states but has yet to sew up the race. The 47-year-old, first-term Illinois

senator is still working to dispel skepticism that he has what it takes to be president. As time runs short, McCain is searching for a way to marshal support as the spreading economic woes cut against almost all Republicans after President Bush’s eight years in the White House. In Tuesday night’s debate, both Obama and McCain railed against Washington and Wall Street and belittled special interests and lobbyists; each cast himself as the only candidate who will fight for everyday Americans. Also, Obama argued that McCain would perpetuate the policies of the unpopular Bush, while McCain cast Obama as a risky liberal who backs more government spending. On Wednesday, the Federal Reserve and five other central banks on both sides of the Atlantic implemented a coordinated emergency interest rate cut but the move supplied only a short-lived bounce to world markets. Major stock indexes on Wall Street and in Britain, Germany and France all ended the day down again. In separate statements as the day began, Obama and McCain applauded the Fed’s action. Each portrayed himself as the only one on the side of anxious Americans watching the economic upheaval drain their retirement accounts and hinder their ability to get loans. “I am committed to protecting the American

worker in this crisis,” McCain said. He promoted his plan, announced at the debate the night before, that would direct the Treasury Department to buy up bad home mortgages by using nearly half the $700 billion from the recent bailout package. “I will get the economy back on track,” McCain added. The Republican also said he would balance the federal budget by the end of his term, although the Bush administration predicts the deficit and a recession would further complicate that task. Initially, Obama sought to reclaim a piece of McCain’s mortgage proposal. He previously had said the government should consider doing just that, and on Wednesday said the Treasury Department officials “should use the authority they already have to purchase troubled assets, including mortgages.” He also renewed his call for a second economic stimulus package for the middle class, saying: “More urgent and vigorous action is necessary to stem this crisis.” Later, after McCain released more details of his plan, Obama’s campaign said McCain’s plan would end up rewarding troubled mortgage companies with even more taxpayer dollars and assailed it as “even more costly and out-of-touch” than ever imagined. In a shot aimed at raising doubts about McCain’s temperament, they called his plan “erratic policy-making at its worst.”

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TODAY STUDENT SUCCESS SERIES There will be a seminar on reading strategies at 4 p.m. in Carnegie Hall, room 200. ASIAN-AMERICAN STUDENT ASSOCIATION There will be a general meeting at 5:30 p.m. in the HendersonTolson Cultural Center. CLASSICAL ARCHAEOLOGY SOCIETY There will be a lecture by Professor Thomas Parker entitled “Aila: A Roman Port on the Red Sea” at 7:30 p.m. in the Frontier Room of the Oklahoma Memorial Union.

FRIDAY WOMEN’S SOCCER The team will play the University of Missouri at 7 p.m. at John Crain Field.

SATURDAY WOMEN’S VOLLEYBALL The team will play Kansas State University at 7 p.m. at the Howard McCasland Field House.

SUNDAY WOMEN’S SOCCER The team will play the University of Kansas at 1 p.m. at John Crain Field.



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PUBLIC INTOXICATION John Green, 37, 3700 block West Main Street, Tuesday Jeffrey Keesee, 23, 200 block Vicksburg Avenue, Monday Harold Bruce Wright, 37, 2300 block Glen Oaks Drive, Tuesday, also escape after lawful arrest and assault and battery on a police officer

POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA Anthony James Hancock, 19, West Robinson Street, Tuesday

MUNICIPAL WARRANT Mark Anthony Lambert, 27, 900 block North Porter Avenue, Tuesday

PETTY LARCENY Shayla Ann Pate, 24, 3400 block West Main Street, Tuesday

COUNTY WARRANT Twain Sonny Sauvageau, 30, 900 block North Porter Avenue, Monday

DISTURBING THE PEACE Carter Brown Wallace, 25, 1600 block Ann-Branden Boulevard, Monday

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