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Controversy arrived 10 minutes before Major General Lowell English as students gathered outside P-32 last Friday. It seems a disagreement had arisen over the placing of a sign saying, "The Marine Corps KILLS Men" over the building. Dean of Student Activities Robert E. Bowman asked the Peace and Freedom Club members who had put up the banner to remove it before the General arrived. They did so and an argument continued for 20 minutes. First, Bowman said he wanted the students to remove the sign because it was in "bad taste," allegedly insulting· the government represented by General English. This was rebutted by Peace and Freedom President Verne Pershing saying that the government is insulted every day by cartoonists and columnists. ASB president Bob Thoreson and members on the Student Council began to argue about a disputed rule that all posters had to be approved by the Inter-Club Council (ICC) and the office of student activities. Bowman turned and instructed the students to be quiet and told Pershing and associates to talk to him, because "he was in charge.; here." He then took up the same argument. The sign hangers questioned whether all other signs that have been put up on campus had been approved by Bowman's office. He admitted they had not. The students volunteered to hold the sign instead of putting it on the wall, but Bowman objected. Later that da'y Bowman said, "As far as signs go, its all in the handbook, it's all supposed to be cleared by ICC and this office. I will admit that probably in the past, it has been violated. "The decision was mine alone. l felt it wasn't in good taste. I .d tdn't intend
Solar Aircraft gives turbine to school A turbine engine generator has been given to the college, it was announced by William Bedford of the Engineering and Chemistry Department. The gift was made by Solar Aircraft, San Diego, a division of the International Harvester Company. Bedford said the turbine is an auxiliary power unit rated at 40 horsepower and designed for mounting in a wing pod assembly. It will be mounted for stationary operations in the college Industrial Arts and Automotive Technology department, he said. Both engineering and industrial arts s tude n t s will have the opportunity to conduct test runs and study the operating characteristics of a turbine engine. Bedford said an initial project for engineering students will be to complete the mounting and instrumentation of the unit for operation.
Schmidt asks for help "We need help now" declared Rita Schmidt, student chairman ofthe teacher evaluation committee. "Students who signed up to help should keep an accurate number of evaluation forms they gave to the instructor," she said. "Actually, the instructors have cooperated more than the students,• she remarked. "It is up to the student who distributed the form to return it to the student activities office," she added. Students who have not received their forms by Thursday are instructed to contact the Student Activities Office.
The patio of the Student Union resounded with the music of the Naval
Gen. English says U.S. in Vietnam primarily for own self-interest
it to be a form of censorship. "I understand what the arguments are, but I think they (Peace and Freedom Club members) had the opportunity to ask questions inside (P-32), "I'm not against freedom of speech, voicing your opinions. or that kind of thing," concluded Bowman. Pershing, also later Friday asked, "Where does Dean Bowman get the right to censor what I or other students say? "I'm not against the military speaking, but I'm against anybody keeping·me from speaking. "The question is: Do we have free speech or don't we? It's as simple as that. Since when is it against the law to insult the government?" Dr. Frederick R, Huber, president of the college, said that it was a "long standing rule" in the student or advisor's handbook that signs be checked by the ICC _and dean of student activities.
Fred Gordon, editor and publisher of UCSD's underground newspaper the "Indicator,~ will speak on the draft today at 11 a.m. in the free speech area. Gordon, a teaching as s i s tan tin philosophy, is being sponsored by the Peace and Freedom Club. The free speech area is in front of the men's locker room, south of the Student Union patio. The main topic of Gordon's speech will be the reasons behind the new policy of the Selective Service System of inducting graduate school students.
The primary reason the United States is in Vietnam is for its own selfinterest, Major General Lowell English said here Friday. "The idealistic part never overrides the practical, ~ continued General English. "The helping of the Vietnamese is only secondary," he replied when questioned. General English, commander of the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, spoke to about 120 persons in P-32. "A very vocal sector of Ol.!r country daily casts doubts on the propriety of our being there," he said. "I don't propose to answer them, but I want to review how we got there and what we are doing." "We are repaying a debt made in 1776," General English told a questioning instructor, "helping the guy who can't help himself." General English went on to take the audience on a guided tour, through color slides of South Vietnam's recent hot spots. "The Communists want Vietnam so they can control the waterways of Southeast Asia," he said. The General explained the importance of the rivers and highways of Vietnam, described conditions there and praised the work of the men there. "Their accomplishments will make a bright page in our history, and I am proud to have led them," said General English of the military in the Southeast Asian battle ground. While discussing the pacification program, the General told of a conversation he had with a fellow commander. "It seems they were having trouble convincing the South Vietnamese troops (ARVN) that they were not better than the peasants and that they were there to protect the peasants. He said they might have to shoot a couple (South Vietnamese soldiers) before they got the idea."
Above are members of Gamma Sigma Chi, girls service club, which is offering
a $100 scholarship to a deserving girl transferring to a four-year college.
members to take down a poster concerning Major General Lowell English's arrival last Friday.
Students gathered outside P-32 Friday as Dean of StudentActivitiesRobert Bowman ordered Peace and Freedom
THE TELESCOPE Palomar College · Volume 21 Number 43 · A Publication of the Associated Students
May 21, 1968
Tomorrow sign -up deadline to run for ASB positions Tomorrow is the last day to sign..up to run for an ASB office, reports Dean of Student Activitie~ Robert Bowman. As of noon yesterday, only one candidate had declared for each of four ASB offices open next fall. Kim Clark is the only candidate running forpresAll potential ASB candidates who wtsh to have their picture taken should report to F-24 at 11 a.m. tomorrow. ident. Ron Simecka is running unopposed for ASB vice-president. Linda Welch is the only candidate for ASB secretary. Kathy Taff is the sole candidate for ASB treasurer. Joe White is running unopposed for Associated Men's Student president. The office of Associated Women's Students was unfiled , Eight students have filed for ASB Representative-at-large positions. They are Cheryl Tucker, Tom Galloway, John Rice, Lloyd Walker, Jon Sophos, Dan Connelly, Betty Taylor, and Joe Wu. Simultaneous elections will be held to fill four positions as fall cheerleaders. Four students have filed, as of noon yesterday, for the jobs. They are Betty Taylor, Kathy Taff, Ann Spencer, and Linda Matz. As of noon, yesterday, there was no
indication that the party system used in the spring election last January will again be employed. Candidates must have a 2.5 cumulative grade point average or a 2.5 this semester in at least 12 units, according to the Elections Code which is part of the ASB Constitution. Office hopefuls are also required to attend two Council meetings prior to the election and have taken or enrolled in the leadership class (Speech 42). The number of candidates declaring for this ASB election is nearly the lowest in Palomar's history in contrast to last semester's election whencontroversy arose when the Peace and Freedom Club ran a slate of candidates.
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Gordon speaks today in free speech area
All students should return overdue books and periodicals, and settle accounts with the library to avoid transcripts being withheld now or at any future date of request. A list of names with overdue books or periodicals will be posted in the library. If you are· in doubt about your library record, please inquire at the main desk.
McPhee turns in perfect timing m YDs 2Scar rally last Friday A field .of 25 cars entered the first annual Yovng Democrat Car Rally last Friday night. _ Covering 107 miles through San Marcos, San Luis Rey, Valley Center, Escondido, Rancho Santa Fe, Del Mar, Solana Beach and Leucadia, the rally was won with a perfect clocking of two hours, 33 minutes by Bob McPhee. McPhee was entered in the sports car class. Other winners in that class were Jim Strong, second; and Jerry Rieley, third. Eight cars were competing in this division. The only coed to win was Charlotte Vickers, who received a first trophy in the Volkswagen class. She beat out Karl Klass ius and James Hammel. There
Training Center Band Wednesday afternoon. The Inter-Club Council sponsored
were only three entrants in this class. All received trophies. Paul Wilson, with navigator Kirt Vischer, won the first place trophy in open class followed by Scott Hagata, second; and Jim Quisquis. Fourteen cars ran in this class. The rally was marred bv onl v one accident. Gary Farr and navigator Priscilla Davis in a Pontiac GTO hit an embankment east of Manchester in Del Mar, crumbling the car's right front fender. Charlie Brown, in a green Cortina, was delayed from finishing at the checkpoint in Valley Center for half an hour while fixing a jammed front head light switch. In order to repair the ~witch, Brown had to dissemble the entire dash,
the event inc onj unction with Armed Forces Week.
J}lree scholarships to be c)ffered by Gamma Sigma Chi and military Applications for three scholarship~are still being accepted. Tomorrow is the final day to apply for a $100 scholarship offered by Gamma Sigma Chi, the girls' service group. The grant is open to any sophomore woman planning to transfer to a fouryear institution. She must also have had at least two active semesters here and a 2. 5 grade point average. Applicants must also have performed service to the school. F orms can be picked up from Mrs. Cynthia Poole in Student Personnel. Another $100 grant is being offered to a sophomore student who is a dependent of an active duty or retired United States Navy or Marine Corps personnel residing in Poway , Escondido, San Marcos or Vista. Interested persons should report to the Dean of Student Personnel Office by Friday. Applications will be accepted until Friday for the Palomar College NavyMarine Corps $175 scholarship, college officials have announced. The application forms are available from the dean of student personnel. To be eligible for the award, an applicant must be a military dependent, active
or retired; have a high grade-point average, and plan transfer to a four-year college. The scholarship is sponsored by the men of the Navy-Marine Corps Associate Degree Completion program now attending the college under a navy program which assigns career personnel to the college for studies leading to their associate in arts degree. The program is paid for by the Navy Department without expense to the college.
Year's best athlete to be disclosed The presentation of a trophy to the "Outstanding Athlete of the Year" will highlight the annual p a 1 0 m a r Spring Sports Banquet tomorrow night The banquet is to be held at 6:30 p.m. in the Student Union. Baseball coach Jim Clayton, golf coach Ward Myers, track coach Doc Marrin, tennis coach Ray Love and archery coach Miss Mildred Ayers will give letters and special awards to their respective team members.
T HE TELESCOPE In !962, the Student Publications Board established a Code of Ethi cs with the cooperation of the members of all campus publications. Local newspaper pubUshers were asked to comment and they said the code
By Cecelia Lodico The minds of many members of Student Council have turned to sponge. And these sponge minds are soaking up nearly everything Palomar's campus leaders throw at them. About five weeks ago ASB president Bob Thoreson asked Council for $46 to send him to Sacramento for a luncheon with governor Ronald Reagan. "No~" council replied. "What good will this luncheon do?," one member asked. After some debate, council reiterated its resounding "no." Thoreson could not go to Sacramento ... for that week, anyway. At the next Monday's Council meeting. the Sacramento trip was again on the agenda. Thoreson explained the need for his traveling to the cap it a 1, how well Palomar would be represented, and on, and on . .. The sponge minds took it all in. Time for the vote. "Yes, you may go," Council announced, "Sponge-itis" of the mind must be contagious, because it's spreading. More and more Council members have been struck with the disease. About three weeks ago Council voted "no" on parts of a newly-constructed dance policy. It is noteworthy that Thoreson was not present at this meeting. Consequently, ASB vice-president Paul Hauptman presided. Permission for entrance to a Palomar dance for everyone 17 years of age or older was the disputed issue of the policy. Many Council members did not want high school age students attending and "ruining" campus dances. "Palomar dances should be for Palomar students only," they quipped. Most Council members agreed. The 17 year-old clause was defeated. With Thoreson's return at the next Council meeting came a switch in votes again. Once more the dance policy containing the 17 year-old issue was on the agenda. Ideas and reasons why the issue should be passed were given. Council members listened attentively, almost reverently. Time for the vote. "Yes," said Council, obediently. Many of the same members who voted "no" seven days before changed over to the Thoreson side. Apparently they'd rather switch than fight. A little confused aren't they? Others who haven't yet contracted "Sponge-itis" stuck to their "no" vote and reasoning. On May 6, the Vets Club requested $75 to buy lunch for the Naval Training Center Band after its performance. Council members against the issue said the club should be able to provide its own fees. Those for passage, considered the band an assembly for all students. The motion failed with less than five "aye" votes. One week later, the same issue was brought up. After some discussion, the issue passed. Few of those who voted against it remained steadfast in their opinions. The epidemic is indeed worsening. Anyone who is willing to take the chance of contracting "Sponge-itis" is welcome to see his Student Council in action. Meetings are held each Monday at 11 a.m. in R-3.
• wtthJn the framework of school coverage, sen-
sationalism, glorlflcatlon, and fa.vortttsm should not be tol e rated. • Coverage of national or International occurrences should be governed by the proximity of the event and the direct relationship of the event to the s tudents . These events should be considered
Instructor poooers evaluation fonn questions, possible complications Staff «litorial
Marine General incident provokes taste' vs. sn.rlent freedom query By Steve Last Friday Major General Lowell English paid a visit to Palomar College. His visit was arranged by the InterClub Council. The General went to P-32, spoke and left. But what happened outside the room a few minutes prior to his visit and during his lecture, overshadowed the words being spoken inside. Several members of the Peace and Freedom Club had posted on the wall outside of the room a sign reading, "The Marine Corps KILLS Men." Moments before General English arrived, the Dean of Student Activities Robert Bowman, ordered the Peace and Freedom Club members to take down that particular sign. He first stated that his reason for doing so was because the General represented the United States government and that it was in "bad taste" to insult the government. He later added that there is a rule on campus · stating that all signs and publicity must be approved through ICC before it can be exhibited on campus. The publicity code which is within the ASB constitution contained in the student handbook has been thoroughly studied, only to find no mention of ICC approval regarding on-campus publicity. Dr. Frederick R. Huber, Palomar's president, explained that ICC approval of publicity has been a long standing rule, possibly written in the "advisor's handbook." Dean Bowman stated, "I'm not against freedom of speech. I didn't intend it
Schneider it to be a form of censorship. "As far as signs go, it's all in the handbook; it's all supposed to be cleared by ICC and this office," he continued. Bowman admits, however, that the rule has been violated in the past. Actually, seldom has publicity for anything been approved by ICC before being posted on campus. Dean Bowman says that he didn't intend it to be a form of censorship. But it most assuredly was. You can't fool anyone by hiding censorship behind a rule--especially when you enforce the rule only when you want to. He states that it's "all in the handbook." The question remains--which handbook? Dr. Huber referred to it as being in the "advisor's handbook." But shouldn't it be in the student handbook where the people to whom the regulation affects will have the opportunity to read it? Dean Bowman says that he feels it is in bad taste to insult the U.S. government. Perhaps many students feel it is in equally bad taste for the government to insult a person's intelligence by lowering him to a "kill or be killed" existence. Shouldn't these students be allowed to voice their opinions? I feel that if we have a rule, then it should be enforced. If a rule is not enforced or if it is enforced only when it appeases an administrator's personal beliefs, then it should be abolished-now.
Circle K selects April sweetheart; second college employee honored Mrs. Elisabeth Archambault, Snack Bar employee, was selected Circle K
Sweetheart of the Month for April by club members recently. She is the second college employee to be so named. The first was Miss Virginia Wiggenjost, secretary to the dean of student activities. Better known to students as "Liz," Mrs.Archambault was born in San Diego "because Escondidohad no hospital then." After being graduated from Escondido High School with the class of 1947, the brown-eyed brunnette married her husband, Bill, presently an agent for the Santa Fe Railroad Company in San Diego. Except for one year in Victorville, Mrs. Archambault has lived in Escondido all her life.
Purebred Basset Hound Puppy Female, 7 weeks, Tri-color, has shots. $40. Call 724-7796 BABY SITTER WANTED Would like a sitter for the summer, 2 children,ages 7&10. 5 days a week Monday thru Friday. Call Mrs. Carroll 727-1982 After 6:30p.m. or weekends. ROOM FOR RENT Female only, Large room with half bath, Kitchen privleges in San Marcos. Phone 727-1982 after 6:30p.m. or weekends only $55.00 a month.
The Archambaults have four children: Sandra, 18; Steve, 16; Terri, 13; and Jon, 10.
In her spare time, the April sweetheart reads, listens to classical records and plays bridge, in addition to transporting her kids to and from baseball games.
Billie Hutchings' dance students performed a comedy satire of the fairy tale,
Cinderella, last weekend during a modern dance concert. Photo by Will Holly
THE TELESCOPE Editor-in-Chief . . . . . Cecelia Lodico Page 1, Tuesday . . . . . . Jerry Nicholas Assistant . . . . . . . . . Steve Krueger Page 2, Tuesday .Joan Kattelmanrt Page 1, Friday . . . Steve Schneider Assistant . . . . . . . . . . . Joe Wu Page 2, Friday . Rick Monroe Assistant . . . . Dave Conrad Exchange Editor Jan Donoho Reporters . . . . . Neil Hoffman Ken Kline, Tom Wheeler Advertisements . . . Dianna Houser Photographers . . . . Ted Karounos, Don Bartlett! Journalism Advisor . Fred Wilhelm Photography Advisor . Justus Ahrend Graphic Arts Advisor . . James McNutt
Two statements from that code are
pe rtinent today:
when they occur on campus or brought tnto the college program directly. • Opinions expressed In this paper In signed edttorlals and articles are the views of the writers and do not necessarlly represent opinions of the staff, views of the Associated Student Body Council, college admint stratton, or the Board of Governors. The TELESCOPE Invites responsible •guest editorials• or letters to the editor. All communtcattons must he signed by the author. The TELESCOPE ss a student newspaper must represent the enUre spectrum of student thought.
At the outset of this treatise it should be stated that students have every right to express themselves in evaluating their professors' courses. It is their right and their prer~gative, It _is a _changing world, not the least of w}ych are changes in student matters, and perhaps even more important, it is democratic. But like many matters that seem simple at first glance, there are a number of complications which may or may not appear obvious. These should be stated in any event. Anonymous forum
On the one hand, the evaluation forms might be objected to on the grounds that since no names appear on them, this could lead to irresponsible statements or considerations on the part of some individuals, however few. In other words, anyone with "an axe to grind" nowhasan "anonymous forum ." There may possibly be several situations where an instructor may be unjustly impugned out of spite or malice without the recourse of being allowed to face such detractors, even if they should be very limited in numbers. This would be particularly unfortunate in the case of untenured teachers who might conceivably feel under some form of duress, whether justified or not. Realizing the fact that onecan'tplease everybody, nevertheless, one can pause and ponder whether or not the damage here might outweigh the benefits of the forthcoming ratings. On the other hand the signing of names might act as a deterrent or at least inhibit students to some degree in openly and honestly expressing their views. Assign a number
Perhaps a solution here would be for the student body to assign a number to each student and require that this be used on the evaluation sheets at the appropriate time. These numbers could be matched with persons' names only by the student officers if the need should ever arise. It would still provide anonymity, yet conceivably attach some aura of responsibility to those filling out the dorms, It can be further argued that, a.s a matter of principle, class time should not be devoted to projects (initiated by anyone) not directly related to the actual subject matter at hand in class. That is, perhaps students could do this on their "own time" or at the 11 a.m. free hour, and not cut into the instructor's class time, even if it is a worthwhile project and even assuming that it doesn't take long to fill out these forms (Associated with such use of class time, albeit even limited, are other minor forms and announcements which are often handled in college newspapers elsewhere. Anyhow, this latter little point might improve the "college atmosphere" as much as the cancelling of the bell system formerly used.) Somewhat reasonable This rating sheet seems to be somewhat reasonable, in general, but one can point out several disturbing areas which surely won't assuage some fac-
ulty members. For instance, "class discussion" in some courses in which the -;tudent- has had little or no background might not have the same degree of relevance or weight as in others, and therby they have to be handled differently. (Even two different courses in the same field, taught by the same person, sometimes reflects this.) "Up to date" subject matter in some courses might even be impossible for a lot of students to discern at all. Then some instructors don't use prepared lectures, or intentionally don't follow any particular order. Finally, so many people just out of high school may often reply to questions concerning "work load" and "tests" negatively; in effect, primarily in terms of their high school experience. Student caliber
Now consider the caliber and kind of students that generally make up the bulk of junior college students, at Palomar in particular. Approximate!?; the top 10 per cent of high school graduates are allowed to go on to the University of California, and the next lowest grouping to the state colleges (or some other four-year institution); many of the . rest go on to junior college, as is common knowledge. It must not be forgotten that the Palomar College Catalogue lists at least 50 fields or subjects which are "collegetransfer curricula" (the field of education may actually be subdivided into several more types according to the catalogt.ie.) Now, since over half the student body is composed of freshmen at an institution of this sort, and at Palomar approximately 10 per cent eventually goes on to upper division college work, one has to stop and consider the implications of such facts.
Does one perchance need a considerably larger percentage of those types of students equipped, able and serious enough to do college work for a truly fair assessment on the course rating sheets? Also, at four-year educational instituions there is at least more opportunity for the students, as they mature and as they receive additional class experience with at least two additional years of schooling, to attempt a more objective and true evaluation. Popularity contest
Can the same even hope to be said about Palomar College? Under such circumstances, it could be concluded that students are chiefly competent in rating instructors as in a popularity contest. But good teaching is infinitely harder to rate than on that basis. A person can even be an interesting and entertaining teacher and still be a basically "lousy" teacher. Entertainment and popularity are not necessarily a guarantee of good teaching per se. Even in an "informal" student-faculty project, one must ponder all these questions deeply. Abraham Gruber Behavioral Sciences Department·
Dr. Jones refuses to ro-operate. (Editor's note: Rita Schmidt is the student chairman of the Teacher Evaluation Committee.) The actual process of teacher evaluation has begun at Palomar. Surprisingly, most teachers are cooperating. Why are they cooperating? Some students think they are cooperating out of fear. I hope they are cooperating because the students are offering them a useful tool to improve classroom instruction. So far only one instructor has absolutely refused to pass out the forms. He claims that my head is so up in the clouds that I can't see that teacher evaluation is a plot by the administration to keep teachers in line. The original idea that teachers and students actually want to improve education here is beginning to seem awfully naive, even to me. Our definite plan for the uncooperative instructor is to list in the final booklet his name, classes and the state ment: Dr. JONES REFUSED TO CoOPERATE.
I think that this statement is worse than a poor evaluation. It reflects ail attitude of indifference on the part oftbe instructor toward the student opinion of his teaching. If instructors here are really men of integrity, teacher evaluation won't influence instructors to teach their classes solely to please students. There also have been reports that some instructors are pulling out the poor evaluations before they submit them to their student representatives. I find it hard to believe that a man who calls himself a teacher would come down to that level. One instructor at Palomar once told me that when a man chooses teaching as a profession, he sets himself above an ordinary business career. He becomes responsible for opening the minds of his students and dedicated to finding the best method of teaching his subject. I think this is the reason most teachers are cooperating with Teacher Evaluation. But maybe I'm just still politically naive. Rita Lynne Schmidt
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