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It's a secret 'til homecoming coronation

The vote A second election was held today to select a queen from the homecoming court of Samantha Dalzell, Nancy Palmer, Patti Russo, Nancylee Saffiote, and Marylou Trevison. The winner will he announced at Saturday's game.

A highlight of homecoming week is the appearance of the Good Time Singers Friday at 11 a. m. in the student union. Regular class schedules will prevail although special arrangements have been made for limited hot food cafeteria service. A small number of

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Psychedelic buttons will be sold for ten cents all week. A "knobby knees" contest, sponsored by AWS, will have a voting booth set up in the student union daily. Photos of the competing limbs, belonging to six Palomar men, are posted on jars; voting is done by placing money in the jar of your choice.

tables will be set up and the snack bar will be open. The cafeteria will remain open until approximately 1:30.

The Good Time Singers, who number seven appeared as regulars on the Andy Williams Show for three years . The group has made over three dozen TV appearances and is now under a long term contract withinArts Records. Critics have applauded them for maintaining appeal to all ages and for the ability to project their individual personalities in their performances.

Money will go toward the AWS Christmas party for retarded children. The winner will be crowned at the homecoming game.

A bonfire for Friday has been canceled unless the Santa Ana wind condition abates. The "bonfire" dance will begin at 8 p .m. as planned in the student union. Admission is 75 cents and "Marsha and the Esquires" will provide the music and a light show.

The homecoming game begins at 8 p.m. on Escondido's Memorial Field.

Past cheerleaders will return to boost spirit prior to the coronation. The queen will be crowned at half time festivities

by ASB president, Jon Mitchell. The court will ride to the coronation in five sports cars supplied by students.

Father s of football members and members of the Comet Boosters will eat with the team prior to the game. After the meal the coaches have invited them to the locker rooms so they can see how the team gets ready for the game. At the game each father will wear a jersey corresponding to his son's number and will be introduced.

The Queen and her court will preside over the free dance in the student union after the gootball game. The theme of the dance is Insight Out. "The Horseless Carriage," a local band from the coast area, will play. They have just returned from the East coast where they cut a record. A light show will .be featured at intermission. Dress for ·. the affair is after-five and refreshments will be served free. It is not necessary to attend with a date.

Activities for the rest of the wee k: GOOD TIM E SINGERS in the student union F RIDAY at 11 a .m.

BONFIRE DANCE on FRIDAY f rom 812 in the student union. Admission is 75~ a head.

HOMECOMING GAME at 8 p .m. SATURDAY in Escondido.

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New elections 'unfeasible ' . The judic ial committee has recommended to the ASB Council that new elections for class officers not be held this semester.

At a postponed meeting on Tuesday the Committee Chairman J im Strong reported that they had decided that the newly - elected frosh presi d e nt Brice Larsen and s ophomore president Charlotte Jacques shall remain in office.

A controve rsy had arisen over the cons titutionality of Larsen's e lection by all members of the student body and whether Miss Jacques, an appointed vice-president, could legally assume the job of resigned President Sandy Eagleston.

The Committee interpreted the two class cons titutions , which are almost identical, to say that voters need not be members of the particular class to vote for its officers.

Article III of the Constitutions, clearly calling for four elected officers for the classes, is uncontested, but whether elections . should be held immediately is the question in point.

Stro~g stated that an election at this

In the sophomore arena no one has stepped into the spotlight and new President Charlotte Jacques says she wants the ASB to decide what will happen. Miss Jacques thinks, howeve r, that the class constitutions should be changed so that the officers are appointed rather than elected because "they have to work closely with the president.''

time is ''highly unfeasible " and suggested that Jon Mitchell, ASB President, appoint people to fill the unelected positions by next Monday. A tentative election is scheduled for the fall-spring semester break.

Frosh President Brice Larsen's vicepre sidential appointee , Phil Robinson. says he definitely will not run for the office if an election is held at this time. ''Everybody wonders why student apathy is at such a peak when things like this happen," comments Robinson on the recent constitution uproar.

Upon hearing Robinson's decision not to run, Bill Wright announced he would throw his hat in the ring if an election is s lated, and Jerry Nicholas states he wants to b e elected freshman class vicepresident so he can ''bring the Pres ident and the other supposed school leaders down from their fantasy world to real life .''

Robinson, Wright, and Nicholas all agree that.freshmanclass officers should be electe d only by fre s hmen but the Judicial Committee has recommended that all students be able to vote for the offices. The same recommendation was made for sophomore class polling.

THE TELESCOPE is two days late this week due to a breakdown of our headline setting machine .

Next week's issue , barringfurther emergency, will appear on Tuesday as usual.

Due to the present Santa Ana condition, the annual pre-homecoming game bonfire may not burn this year.

Unless the present dry, windy weather c hanges the Pep Club will be unable to secure a fire permit for the Friday night festivities.

A dance wi.ll be held from 8 to 12, however, even if the ce remonial burning is not.

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Mrs. Rita White, art ins tructor, and Joe Stanford, vocal ins tructor, demons trated against the trash condition on campus Friday.

Both instructors we re "registering disgust at the pig-sty campus," Stanford commented, "We wanted to let s tudents know we think it a pretty crumby way to let the campus be kept. It bugs me to walk to lunch ever y day on my way to the student union to see people living like heathens, " Stanford said.

"Just because other campuses have this condition doesn't mean we must have it, too." injected Stanford. "The least we (PC students) can do is to aid the maintenance department: thereare ample tras h containers." St anford we nt on to say that the maintenance departme nt spe nds valuable hours cleaning up an unnecessary mess that the school must pay for in wages. "It is one of the s mall ways we could cut down."

CLEA. UP PATROL

Both commented on the students who seemingly ignore the mess around them. " I hate to think what the ir homes look like," and "I thought these we r e young adults, not children," excl aimed Mrs. White. Stanford thought, "Maybe they need s omeone to tell the m that the mess is unple asant." The instructors agreed that it was not a good image to r elay

to the public .. Stanford said disgustedly, "I would even hesitate to take a visiting frie nd for lunc h in the faculty lounge because of the trash problem."

Mr s. White and Stanford arrived in the patio area carrying paper bags at ten to 12 on Friday. They brought several , " we thought we were going to have help." s he said.

They tried to organi ze their fellow faculty me mber s into their demonstration against trash but were unsuccessful in gaining participants . ''We're disgus ted with our colleagues ," they s aid. Fellow members gave reasons of both a kidding and serious manner for non- participation such as, "It's not in our contract to pick up trash." Some believe that the answer is not to get out and pick up , they don't think the s tudents would respond to this method.

One voiced the opinion, "It's not the right philosophy " This individual went on to explain that " the correct approach was to let it pile up until they can't see over it, then do something about it.'' Another stated pure monetary reasons, ''I'm not getting paid for it."

One would watch but not participate.

Some asked in amazement, "Are you really going to do that?' ' Mrs . White said to "Watch and s ee what happens next."

Sandy Eagleston argues a point during a recent judicial meet ing. Charlotte

Jaques, sitting next to Sandy, is the appointed Sophomore President.

Peter Bollington to open evening series with lecture, Public Mistrust of University' "Public Mistrust of the Unive r s ity" will be the topic of Englis h instructor Peter Bellington's presentation tomorrow evening in the first of a series of evening forums to be held in room C-5 at 7 p.m.

"Originally designed as the Faculty Lecture Series , however the expande d project will present a number of speakers, from both on and off campus, on the c urrent and vital problems affecting not only students, but all members of the community and society," Dean Kilman s aid.

A two-part lecture on Vietnam will be held Nov. 9 and 16 by Dr. Mary K. Lepper, assistant professor of political science at California State College at Fullerton.

Her lectures will be titled "Vietnam:

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An International Dilemma" and "Problem s of Internal Developement in North and South Vietnam".

Dr. Lepper is a specialis t on u.s. foreign policy and political affairs in Africa and Southeast Asia. She has lectured at UC Irvine and written a book , " Interest Groups in the Foreign Policy Formulation P rocess."

On Nov. 30, George W. Brown, Assistant at Political Science of San Fernando State College , will continue discussion on Vietnam with the subject: "American Involveme nt in Vietnam: a Tragic Error or a Tragic Necessity?"

Another member of Palomar's faculty is tentatively scheduled to speak on Feb. 15. Wade Snyder, biology instructor, will speak on "Survival in a Changing World."

His presentation will be based on analysis of the hum an as he relates to his community, his society and the changing world.

Jack Quintero, English instructor. will tentatively present "Not Los ing One's Cool About the Younger Generation" on Feb. 29.

The three presentations ending the first phase of the program will begin on Jan. 11 with Angel Carli, English instructor, speaking on "Poetic View of the Contemporary World" followed on Jan. 18 by Gene M. Jackson. pro-tem department head of the English Department, with a lecture on"Real Fantasy and Sham Realism in Children's Literature." Richard B, Peacock, English instructor. is tentatively the last speaker March 7, with the s ubject "McLuhanish. Media and the College Freshman."

Jean Peasley

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In 19fi2. the Student Publica lions Board es ta l,l !sheri ct rode of Ethics with the coope r ation of the nwmt,ers o f all rampus puhli cat l ons . Local newspaJ>er J>uhJiS:hers \'-ere asked t o comm ent and they said the code was compl ete . Two s tatements from that code are

when thev occur on campus o r hrought i nto t he college p r ogram. d i rectl y. " Opinions exp r essed In t hi s p aper in slgnedectttortal s and articles are the v i ews oi the w r iters and do not necessarily represent opinions of t he staff. vle~s

pe r t inent today: K\\'lthln t he f t•amework or school cO\•e rage. sensationa li sm. glorification, and favo r itism should not he tole r ated . ., Coverage or national o r inte r national occurrences should be governed hy the proximit" of the eYen t and the direct t elati o,nship o r the everJ.t to th~ s tudents. T hese events s hould he considcrf:d

of the AssoclatP.d Student Body Co>ncl l. col lege admi nist ra ti on. o r the Board or Governo r s.

T he TELESCOPE Invites r esponslhle • gues t editorial s" or le tters to t he edito r All communications m:Jst he signed IJy the author. T he T ELESCOPE~as a s tude nt newspape r m 1JSl I-ep r ese nttheenttrespectru m or s tudent thought

Believe it or not, new colleges are popping up nationally at the rate of one a week ... to accommodate the six million plus students currently seeking higher education.

The important question is whether or not these new colleges and universities meet the quality of the older, established ones. 'They will definitely be experimental , and set their own patterns ... b ylearn-

OPINION Schwartz scores use of police

By WALTER GRANT Collegiate Press Se rvice WASHINGTON (CPS) -- The unrestrained and brutal use of police to disperse campus demonstrations may be the cause of the most serious crisis higher education has faced in this ce~­ tury, according to Ed Schwartz, president of the National Student Association.

Schwartz predicted last week that at least 25 major protests wi.ll be held this year on college campuses across the country, and he warned college administrators against calling the cops.

NSA will "support and assist student s trikes growing out of the unwarranted use of police to bludgeon student demonstrators ," Schwartz said.

His remarks came in the wake of major s tudent strikes at the University of Wisconsin and Brooklyn College. In both case s, the strikes were called after police we re ordered onto the campuses to break up student demonstrations. Police also b roke up a demonstration at Prince ton University last week.

"The reckless use of police on campuses last week has merely highlighted the lack of concern that adm inistrators feel toward students and has lent new urgency for our drive to encourage student power on campuses," he added.

He predicted that a confrontation between Central In t e 11 i g en c e Agency recruiters and demonstrators may occur at Brandeis between now and midNovember.

Schwartz announced NSA is sending a list of guidelines to student governments across the country to be used when confrontations are expected on their campuses . Demonstrations reach serious proportions "because student government leaders frequently fail to play a creative role be f ore the incidents occur," he said. He emphasized that NSA does not support attempts to block students from attending job interviews, for example , but "this does not mean that stude nt leaders should sit on their hands until a group of students is beaten by police."

campus commentary STUDENTS, TEACHERS AGREE ON TEACHER EVALUATION Since there is a committee composed of five teachers and five students presently working on an evaluation syste m for Palomar, THE TELESCOPE felt it important to find out how students and faculty on the campus regard the issue. A random poll seemed to indicate that most are in favor of the program. The question asked was, "Should students be allowed to evaluate teachers formally? .) •

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Frank White, drama instructor--"Yes, I don't see why not. Most students are not qualified to hire and fire faculty because the average student does not have the knowledge of human nature required. Students evaluate instructors whether we want them to or not and instructors evaluate students whether they want to or not. But most students are not old enough to have the knowledge and intelligence to hire and fire faculty.''

Bill Johnson, freshman--"Yes. The people who are best qualified to evaluate are the students.

The teachers teach the students, not the administration. If a majority of students feel a teacher is not qualified to teach a certain subject, the students should have the right to say so."

Dr. John D. Schettler, assistant superintendent ' 'I think certain benefits would come about with a pro.perly used evaluation instrument, provided stujehts using the evaluation device really know what a good teacher is like.''

Treasure Denk, freshman--"Yes, !think teacher evaluation is important. If students don't agree with teachers, they should not have to put up with those teachers. It is good for both the teachers and the administration to know how students feel.

BILL JOHNSON Yolanda Zepeda, sophomore--"Yes, the country is for free speech. Evaluation is one of the things we should be able to do. We should be able to say when a teacher is good or bad, when a teacher is too strict or too lenient. Most teachers are pretty good about evaluation.''

Victor Heyden, English instructor--"Yes, the students have the right. The real question is what kind of an evaluation is it and how is it conducted and what are the overall effects. People have the right to judge. It would be a grave mistake for students evaluation to determine whether teachers should be retained. It is wrong for the administration to be the sole judge also because it cannot be objective . The ideal circumstance would be for an outside individual who is independent and sophisticated to make the evaluation.''

Art We s coat, sophomore, "Yes , I think students have the right to e valuate if they don't take advantage of the situation and if the evaluation is r egula ted on some basis.

The basis could be establi s hed pe rhaps on a trial and error m ethod.

I don't think students should be given a 'sledge ham mer' type e valuation , but one that would cons tructive ly critici ze .

Students should have the right to hi re and fire faculty indirectly by making their feelings known to the management who should do the hiring and firing. "

Editors: In the October 24 issue of The Telescope a student pointed out some facts and drew a conclusion about student government. But I fear it was the wrong conclusion. The facts are clear. The majority of the students are not voting, and student governme nt is run by only a few interested students. The usual suggestion is, to be interested, to get a candidate, and get out and vote . The question I offer is why should we get anything?

It is a misinterpretation of the facts to assume that only those students that cast a ballot are voting. The students that don't cast a ballot are also voting, their vote says that they have no inte rest in student government. And why should they have any interest';' ute average student belongs to ASB and the Sophomore or tqe F reshman class plus various. ..,clubs , and/,or ;:;ervice organi::;a-

Many educators are still squabbling over the purpose of the JC. Some s ay it's an experimental ground. In Detroit, there is a $15 million campus called Oakland Community College, which just opened this fall for 5,000 students . It only has three classrooms-and rows and rows of booths where students use programmed material from tape recorders and TV screens--and then proceed with their education at their own speed. An interesting idea.

To open a college, it's been estimated that it costs $3 1/2 million for 1,000 students.

Yet, since 1960, 230 junior colleges have been built making a total of 840. Cypress Junior College

tions . Here is at least a two-fold overlap in student government. Good government is formed to fulfill a task, a specific task. Now the ASB is fulfilling its task, but what, pray-tell are the class governments doing? They don't have the support of the students. The officers didn't know of their constitutions until recently. The Dean of Student Activities didn't even know of the constitution. So why should the class governments go on operating? Why not vote on it? All that would be required to retain class government would be a simple majority of the students in each class to vote in favor of retention.

Not a majority of the students casting a ballot, but a majority of students by class.

This may seem a bit extreme, but in real life what happens tq a government that does not have the support of the people?

Mel Thaanum

ASB COUNCIL MATIERS IRRELEVANT Editors: I feel that the time is long over-due for someone to comment on the deplorable state of the student council and of the Teles cope. I will comment on these separately.

I am outraged ove r the pettiness and child-like attitude of our council. Having served on the council for almost two semesters I am familiar with its workings and attitudes. For a body that iss upposed to representative of all students, the council, (whichconstitute sone percent of the student body), falls miserably short of its purpose. Instead of concerning itself with the problems of the student body it would rather bicker endlessly over irrelevant matters. I can't help but wonder how many students are genuinely concerned over what a freshman class constitution written in 1946 has to say.

There are real problems on our campus that the council refuses to even discuss.

We . have overcrowded classrooms and parking lots, and inadequate snack bar and a general feeling of apathy present on campus. Members of the council can •t understand why students just don't care.

Perhaps if the council were to try dealing with the true problems of students they would find themselves receiving a lot of support. If Jon Mitchell and his band of circus performers can find nothing better to do on Mondays during lunch than make fools of themselves, perhaps we should dissolve the student council.

The se cond matte r over which I am outraged is our campus paper, the Telescope. The Telescope says nothing in six pages weekly than any publication I have

ever read . Last week's edition was a perfect e xample. The weekly trivial feud of the student council rated a full banner headline while the true problem of the day, that being parking, only rated six paragraphs. Something is dreadfully wrong.

With each edition I find myself more disturbed by Jean Peasley's weekly column. Miss Peasley finds it very easy to place herself on pedestal and pass judgement upon the students ofPalomar. Perhaps she should stop and reflect as to what her obligation to the students is. I think that she would find that there are about two thousand students on our campus who are here to get an education not chew bubble gum.

If this paper can do nothing more than criticize and bicker over minor arguments perhaps it should retire as a newspaper and become a weekly comic book.

I am deeply alarmed over the present state of the student council and The Telescope. I am proud to be student of Palomar and am deeply interested in the well-being of our college. I know that I do not stand alone in this feeling.

The time has come for the members of the student council and Telescope to resolve their petty grievances against the student body and begin working constructively instead of destructively for the betterment of Palomar College.

Mark Violet

Former student praises club activities

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was built in 74 days. All it originally consisted of was 18 prefabricated buildings, but 2,300 ambitious students enrolled.

Meanwhile, the universities are also growing. The University of California has expanded to Irvine, Santa Cruz and San Diego within the last few years.

These new campuses cost far more to start than the junior colleges, and only the larger states--California, New York, Texas-- can produce the necessary funds to build adequate facilities and faculty.

Do the new colleges have quality?

Their brochures and catalogues assure us that they do.

But this and their accreditation (schools are evaluated not by comparision, but by their own facilities) cannot be the sole basis for quality evaluation.

Only students who attend a new college, which costs just as much as the older ones and sometimes more, can say whether or not the institution is up to par in quality.

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Editors: Well gang how is everything going?

Maybe club activities would help to raise your spirits in this age of hectic scholastic competition.

When I was at Palomar College, I thought that club activities were a waste

YOLANDA ZEP EDA

Ma rilyn Levy , fres hman-- "Yes , students ought to have some opinion because they see thei r teachers everyday.

They should be avle to say anything about a nybody and s hould be able to tell a teacher what they think. They s houdn't go up to a teache r and say, ' I don't like you ; but be able to evaluate him and state opinion."

ing· from the mistakes of others. And because of the lack of funds , many new colleges are much smaller--offering smaller classes , better teachers, and most important, up-to-date knowledge .

Among the big boom in educational expansion is the junior college. And whether this two-year institution is an introduction to the four-year life, a dull extension of high school, or merely its own form of education, California has 78 of them--and is planning 100

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of valuable study time until I joined one.

By joining a club I gained enthusiasm, and a feeling of being a part of growing Palomar College. Being a part of Palomar with enthusiasm made up for the "lost" hours in the club, Which greatly made studying easier. and more enjoyable. Learning to give of one's time in a club helps to receive, and stimulate others in the class room and out. As one might say! all study and no play (club activities) tend to make a student apathetic in nature.

Even though I have graduated from Palomar College in 1966, and I am now serving with the Navy in Virginia, I still am interested in Palomar and its students .

Thomas Boyd

Jean Peasley, forsaking her usual pedestrian inconsequentialities, has finally written something serious (Student Power Threatens, Oct. 24).

Miss Peasley has posed some interesting questions, so I'll provide some interesting answers.

"Why", Miss Peasley asks, "Should administrators be the people to choose what subjects are required and which ones aren't? The students want a chance to say whether or not these required courses are beneficial to him. If they aren't why must he waste his time taking them?"

Why indeed? One need only ask oneself what the top subjects at Palomar would be if the students were allowed to select the curriculum. Pep Rally I and II, Sign Painting, Introductory Alcohol Experimentation (as a prerequisite to Hangover Control arid Vomiting), and Recess would probably head the list.

Miss Peasley further .. tells us, "Students want to choose their teachers, and then get right down to telling him what's wrong with his lectures and how he could improve them. And if a teacher is a poor instructor, students want the power to be able to see that that teacher doesn't return next fall . " Do they now? This ridiculous idea completely shifts the educational responsibility from the student to the teacher. If a student doesn't learn anythinginclass, why should the teacher get the blame?

A much better idea would be to see to it that all marginal (grade average below C) students don't "return next fall".

Obviously marginal students are not making use of the opportunity for a college education. They merely take up space and draw upon their classmates and teachers time.

The manner in which the National Student Association proposes to impose their demands on college administrations is typical of their approach toproblems.

The NSA's "give me this or else .... " philosophy is hardly more than a perverse impishness --- not what one expects from our bright and shining leaders of tomorrow.

However, Miss Peasley's column was not in vain.

She suggests that Palomar should send a delegate to the next NSA confabulation. I agree and recommend Miss Peasley.

I'll even chip in to help buy a ticket-one way.

Robert Reinagel

Councils serving their purpose?

Editors: Most PJC students appear to be neither concerned about nor involved in their student government. It is obviously so, and lamenting it accomplishes nothing.

We have class and student body councils. Are they serving any purpose?

What role do they have in our education?

How does--or how should--student government effect us as individuals?

Would we be better off without it?

These are, I believe, significant questions. Perhaps the answers are obvious to some , to others they are not. We would all benefit from a reasonable discussion of these and other pertinent questions.

Bob Russell (A Forum on the effectiveness of student government will be held Tuesday, Nov. 7, at 11 a.m. in F-22. - -Eds.).

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The fate of the Cross Country team-sweat and hard work It seems a strange tribute to a team that has won 17 games out of 18 that only a handful of supporters have rooted them on. Contrary to some speculations however, Palomar is not in need of athletic supporters. According to Jim Brown, there are plenty in stock. What Palomar does need, is more cheerers for their fine cross-country team-the squad that is currently leading the Pacific Southwest Conference in total wins.

Doc Marrin, the congenial, enthusiastic young coach from the Los Angeles area has formed what he terms, "A team that could surprise you one way or another." What Marrin means, is that the running Comets can be great, or if they feel like, can be bad, However, when you have a person such as Randy Hartman on your side, it is hard to be bad.

The Hartman-led contengent has just come off an impresssive showing at the M.r. Sac Invitational where it finished fourth in a field of 18 teams. Prior to the Invitational spectacular, Marrin's team had complied a rather show-offish record of 17-1.

Hartman, with a supporting cast that resembles that of an Academy Award winner, has reeled off so many recordbr eaking jaunts this season that Marrin has speculated without surprise that the sophomore graduate of Orange Glen High School could run a four-minute mile.

Not during the track season mind you, but right now. Of course, as Marrin added, "The condidtions would have to be perfect and Randy would have to be at his peak." Which has been all

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The supporting cast that aids Hartman in Palomar's triumphs includes Rick F ox, Lee McComb, Richard Williams plus others that Marrin has labeled as "indispensible." Two of the notables on the award winning list are Fox and McComb. Fox is the crafty runner that set a Palomar and PSC record in the two-mile run last year on Larry Knuth's track team. While off to somewhat of a slow start in cross-country this season, Marrin expects that the Vista High School grad will begin to "Corne of age the s econd half of the year." McComb has impressive credentials that include running second behind Hartman in the majority of the Cornets' meets. Another road-runner for Marrin, Williams, is a second-year cross-country performer.

Marrin holds a high regard for this athlete and says, "Williams is the type that won't win very many races but always stick in there and give you 100 per cent. In some cases, he's just as valuable as our number one runner."

If Marrin's mafia can squeeze byperennialleague victor Grossmont College, they will wrap up the first cross-country title in Palomar's history and endGrossrnont's ho~r~rish rein as champs, Certainly the Comet running crew deserves more support than they have been receiveing. They play a game that reaps a small harvest but demands hard work. As Marrin put it, "Of course cross-country isn't as large of a sport as football or as popular. But the athletes don't realize that." And it doesn't seem to bother them.

They just keep on winning.

Palomar's defensive halfback, Chuck Nally, recovers a Citrus Owl fumble in the first quarter of the Comets' losing effort$ against the Azusans . Ear-

lier this week, Palomar's coaching staff named Nally along with Merle Gathers as co-players of the week. The loss marked the second in a row for the

Comets who take on arch-rival Mira Costa on Saturday in their homecoming contest.

Photo by George Anderson

Comets plucked by Owls AZUSA-An interception of a Len Gann pass with less than a minute to go in the game e nabled the Citrus Owls to thwart the Palomar College football team's victory bid and to down the Comets 1413 Saturday afternoon.

Coach Mack Wiebe's Palomar Cornets, suffering from their second defeat of the season, face their last non-conference foe of the year next Saturday night in Escondido's Memorial Field when they take on Mira Costa College.

The Comets' will be facing Mira Cos- ¡ ta ' 'in their homecoming111garne(' and ¡will attempt to pick up their winning ways against an improved Spartan team coached by Bill Corchran.

Against Mira Costa, Palomar will be expected to pursue its aerial game more than they did facing Citrus last Saturday, as quarterback Gann fired only ten passes far below his game average.

The Palomar defense will be given another stiff test by an opposing high scoring team . Tackles Kayle Hende rson and Rich Saunders, along wlth linebacker Scott Martinson and deep back Rich Houk once again sparked the Comet defense.

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Comet defensernan, Scott Bowman, (83), charges through the Citrus Owl offensive line to nail Owl quarterback

s a during the second quarter of the Citrus game. The Cornets lost the contest, 14- 13. Photo by George Anderson

Harriers fourth in Mt. SAC meet Randy Hartman of Palomar College won the annual 16-school Mt. San Antonio College cross country meet Friday with a 20:54.5 clocking.

Glendale College (Ari zona) won the team title with 48 points followed by Santa Ana 76, Grossrnont 112 and Palomar 144.

The Palomar squad as a whole placed fourth in the small junior college competition behind co-P3C entrant Grossmont.

San Diego City College was ninth and Southwe stern 14th among the 16 schools. Mesa College placed seventh among 18 large junior colleges.

Other Palomar runners placing were Lee McComb, 29th; Rick Fox, 32nd; Frank Lomeli, 40th; and Rich Williams, 42nd.

Team Results: 1 48 Glendale, Ariz.

76 2 Santa Ana ll 2 3 Grossrnont 144 4 PALOMAR 5 175 Glendale, Calif.

187 6 Mesa, Ariz.

7 203 Citrus 8 222 Harbor 9 228 SDCC 10 230 Riverside

Total first downs 15 Total net yards 284 Rushing 227 Passing 57 Passes-completed 15-7 Intercepted by 2 Punts-average 6-29 Fumbles-lost 1-0 Penalties-yards 5-25

c 14 289 154 135 21-10 1

4-33 3-3 4-29

Palomar gained possession on their own 15 yard line within the closing minutes of the fourth quarter and marched downfield where Owl defensive halfback William Morgan picked off the pass on the Citrus 7 yard line to kill the Comet's drive.

The loss was the second for the Cornets this season against three wins and two ties.

All of the scoring was done in the first half with neither team managing to mount any s e rious scoring threat during the remainder of the contest until the Comet' s drive near the e nd of the game.

Rick Trestrail, soccer-style placekicker for Palomar, missed the all important extra-point attempt when his kick we nt wide to the left following the Comet's second touchdown in the second quarter.

Leading rusher for Palomar was halfback Dan Hustead of Escondido who carr ied the ball 15 times for a net gain of 80 yards and scored the Cornet's second touchdown.

Palomar' s passing game was largely ineffective as the Comets relied on their

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runners to provide the s trength of the offense . Quarterbacks Lenn Gann and Rocky Lucia combined to complete seven passes out of 15 atte mpts for a total 57 yards through the air. Palomar's runners collected a net total of 227 yards for the afternoon.

Citrus scored the first time they had possession of the ball when they took a punt on their own 43 yard line and moved down the field in e ight plays with fullback Steve Craig scoring from one yard out. Alfonsos Li mahelu booted the extra point.

Neither team could move the ball for any long drives with the two teams trading punts for the remainder of the first quarter.

1 The Owls padded their margin to 14-0 soon after the beginning of the second quarter when they marched 75 yards in 12 plays with the Owl fullback Craig again scoring from the one yard line.

Lirnahelu split the uprights with his second extra point attempt.

Palomar wasted no time in getting on the scoreboard as they took the kickoff to their own 27 yard line and then moved the ball to the Citrus 44 yard line.

It looked as though that was as far as the Comets would penetrate on that series of downs as they were faced with a fourth-down and nine yards to go for a first-down situation when Lenn Gann took a fake punt play and ran it 44 yards for the touchdown. Trestrail hit the target with this extra-point kick to narrow the margin to 14-7.

Palomar blinked the scoreboard again within seconds as Citrus fumbled on the firs t play following the kickoff and Comet linebacker Jack Derzay fell on the ball to give Palomar possession on the Owl's 35 yard line. Three plays later Dan Hustead ran around left end to score from 18 yards out and to make the score 14-13.

Score By Quarters Palomar Citrus

13

0 7

0 0

7

0 0

13 14

Individual Scoring C -- Craig, 1 run (Limahelu kick).

C -- Craig, 1 run (Lirnahelu kick) .

P -- Gann. 44 run with fake punt (Trestrail kick) .

P -- Hustead, 18 run (kick failed).

INDIVID UAL STATISTICS (Palomar Rushing) No. Player TC NY 10--Dan Hustead 13 34-- Jirn Dean 8 32--Merle Gathers 17 11--Ray Lucia 2 13-- Len Gann 7

80 22 76 2 47*

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4 3

1 0

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(Palomar Receiving) No. Player 40--Jack Ashby 85--Tim Titus 81--Sam Oliva 32--Merle Gathers

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29 10 10 8

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0 0 0 0

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Palomar's womenfolk clobber Grossmont The Palomar women's volleyball team will go for its second straight win against one loss for the season when they challenge Grossrnont College tom morrow.

The Comets beat Grossmont last Tuesday in a three-out -of-five nonleague match.

The team. coached by Viola Jeffery, swept the first three games, 15-l2,15-l2,and 15-5.

Members of the squad are Susan Anderson, Cathy Daun, Karen Friedrichs, Heather Hodson,Sandy Judson, Ellie Minor, Nancy Kimberling, Sally Larson and Gloria Perez.

A fourth game , which was played after the contest was also won by Palomar.

U.S.

The United States Marine Band from Camp Pendleton played a concert in the Patio during the lunch hour on Monday.

The approximately 70 men offered an hour of variety in music arrangeu by Howard Brubeck. dean of humanities.

Tmveling 'American Flag Show' to open in Dwight Boehm Gallery Thursday Fifty - eight objects comprise "The American Flag Show", a traveling exhibit co-sponsored by the Pepsi Cola Company and the Smithsonian Institution of Washington. D. C. Opening with a reception this Thursday, the show will continue through Friday, November 17, in the Dwight Boehm Gallery.

Selected from the many collections of the Library of Congress, the show serves two purposes.

The first is to show the development of the American flag since the Revolutionary War period. A campaign banner for Abraham Lincoln. a Marine recruiting poster by James Montgomery

Flagg, numerous news photographs, and Civil War and Japanese woodcuts are just a few of the objects.

The second purpose of the showing is to display the flag as it has been used in totally unrelated and sometimes outrageous advertising matter. This is illustrated by tobacco labels, playing cards, and "Cream Indigo Blue" and "Know Nothing soap" advertisements that use the theme of patriotism to draw people to buy the products .

Dwight Boehm Gallery hours are 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. on Monday through Thursday, 8 a.m . to 4:30 p.m. on Friday, and 9 a.m. to 2 p.m . on Saturday.

Second in film series set for Tuesday "An Evening of Film and Talk" is the film series planned by the Palomar College Community Services. Beginning last Tuesday night, the films are free to the public, and are show in ES 19 a 7 p.m. Tuesdays. Each film willbe followed by a discussion led by a faculty member.

Next Tuesday night, "A Raisin in the Sun" starring Sidney Poitier, Ruby Dee, and Claudia McNeal will be shown. The award winning play and movie is the recipient of the coveted Academy Award and was judged one of the ten best films of 1965.

"The Maltese Falcon" was shown Tuesday night. It starred Humphrey Bogart, Peter Lorre, and Mary Astor.

Angelo Carli , English instructor, led the after-film discussion on various facets of the film.

A number of films will be shown on or around Dec. 12, according to Theodore Kilman, dean of community services. "A Child's Christmas in Wales," based on a poem by Dylan Thomas; "The Days Before Christmas ," a satirical Canadian film on the commercialism of Christmas; "The Twelth Day," and "Toccata for Toy Trains" will be shown. '~The Quiet One," a short film on delinquency in adolescence: "The Wild One." a motor-cyle film starring Marlon Branda; and three short movies to be shown in one night: "Time Out of War," "The Gentleman in Room Six," and "One Potato , Two Potato " are abailable to the College and will be shown here , but no date has heen decided upon yet for them .

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While John Sudjadi lived in Indonesia, he imagined the United States to be "like the motion pictures. Like 'Cleopatra, The VIP's and Walk on the Wild Side.' " He thought everyone lived "very luxuriously."

Now that John has lived in the United States for three years, he has seen that his former vision is not true; yet, he is "not disappointed" in America. As he put it, "America is a great country."

John is a native of Kediri on the island of Java. It was here that he met Arnold Eliot, who works for the American Embassy. Eliot wa:> working with the Indonesian army at the time he and fohn became friends. He bought John to America three years ago and served as his sponosr until he had to leave for Honduras.

Looking for a new residence. John noticed a want advertisement for a boarder. He took up the opportunity and now lives with Dr. E, H. Bronner in Escondido. "Dr. Bronner has been my sponosr for over a year now. I work for him in order to earn my keep," John said.

"I will graduate with an Associate of Arts degree from Palomar in January. I would like to go on to a four year college if I can. However, if I don't find another sponsor to help me through the rest of college, I may return home sometime in 1968." John remarked. "I don't have any definite plans yet. But if I go back, I will probably work with the Department of Exports and Imports in the Indonesian government. If I go on in college, I'll major in business administration."

Studying is forced John believes that most American students attending college either "couldn't get a good job or are looking for a partner. They are forced to study, because if they don't study, they'll flunk out. They don't go to college to really learn," he added.

At the same time Indonesian students go· to college "because they want to get a seat in the government . Also, they want to work in argicultural department in order to get out of working in the field. They want to wear a tie and suit."

Actually few Indonesians go on to college because the cost is so great. "It costs about 5, 000 rupiahs per year to attend college. One American dollar equals 40 rupiahs. Rupiah is abbreviated Rp, and commas, meaning 'cents' are used in place of the period." $1.50 would be written Rp1.50.

"I went to school for 11 years.'"

John said. There are six years of primary school, three years of secondary and three years of high school. In secondary school four students sit in a row at a long desk. In all grades Indonesians attend classes six days per week from 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. There is no school on Sunday. Becuase 90 per cent of the population is of the Islam religion.

Fridays are half days. "We go to school from 7 a.m. to 12 p.m. The teachers instead of the students change from classroom to classroom. We have about three hours worth of homeworkpernight in high school depending on the courses.

"Not until high school can we choose our courses. In primary and secondary school we must take specified subjects.

High School has three devisions--A for law, B for engineering andC for miscellaneous such as carpentry

English learned first "English is the first foreign language learned. All Indonesians in secondary school must take English. In high school we have our choice of German, French and Spanish. The national language is Indonese." There are about 200 dialects 1 among the 107 million people who occupy · the 3,000 islands which make up Indonesia. "Indonesia is about as big as Alaska and Montana put together," said John. John speaks Javanese, Indonese, Sudanese and English. "I have difficulty understanding my instructors because my English vocabulary is not too good.

Psychology is my hardest subject because I can't memorize all those words." Other than psychology, John is also taking English 45; Speech 1A; First Aid ; Business 57, Machine duplicating; and Business 51D, work experience.

Along with adjusting to the American school system, John also had to get accustomed to American food, "My favorite foods are cheeseburger, spaghetti, steak and french fries," he grinned. In Indonesia the wife usually goes to market every morning. The staple is rice supplemented with a small serving of meat or fish, vegetables and many good spices. Black peper, hot pepper and saffron are among the common spices.

California climate "The climate is like California. We have a wet season in the summer when it rains daily for six months and a dry season in winter when there is hardly any rain. Large dams are built to store the water for irrigation during the winter.

"The houses have mud thatched roofs and the walls are made of painted brick.

We don't have carpet, but we have small rugs on the floor which is either cement or tile," John sai~l "Traditional dress for the men is made of tubular length of material. The bottom goes around the waist and down to the ankles and is worn with an open collared shirt. It is now worn in the mosque (church) or as casual dresss when visiting.

More women than men wear the traditional dress.

The women's bottom piece is the same as the men's with the addition of a broad cummerbund.

They also wear a 'kebaja,' a long sleeved, semi-faded kind of cardigan which is almost always of printed material. A stole draped over one shoulder completes the costume. Most of the time western

clothing is worn. ''R!Qkshaws are the fastest means of transportation on the narrow roads. They have two ,wheels: in front and one in back.

The driver sits in back and peddles like a bicycle. Like taxi drivers, the rickshaw driver waits to be hailed in front of theatres or on street corners . A person operating a rickshaw John would be of the lower class. The upper class are the people who have the good jobs--the guy who sits in the office," John remarked.

Sy· mbolic weddings Unlike in the former tradition when marriages were arranged, Indonesians are free to marry without the event being planned by the families of both parties. "There are certain symbols found at all weddings." The coconut leaves represent happiness. The sugar cane stands for a sweet life. Stalks of rice paddy symbolize prosperity. A certain specimen of banana, called the royal banana, is used in hopes that the couple will have many children.

"The groom signs a marriage contract. Each party throws tobacco leaves at one another, but the groom throws his first which symbolizes the dominance he will have over his wife. He steps on a raw egg to represent his masculinity. The bride then washes his feet with perfumed water which proves respect and loyality for the groom.

The average age for marriage is 20 to 23 years.

"Kissing in public is considered impolite," John said.

"And the boy kisses the girl on the forehead, not on the lips as in America. Family ties are close and each family has many children." John himself is an only child. "My mother died when I was six months old, so I've always had to earn my own living.

"One thing I'd like to say is that without the example of 188 years of human and sucessful Americanism. my fatherland. Indonesia, would today be enslaved by half true, unworkable, intolerant, barbaric Communism.

My country underwent a drastic change in 1960. Before we were for Communist China. Now we are against China."

John stressed six basic American principles he has memorized in order to ''tell them to my people when I get back home." They are quotations on freedom and democracy from Daniel Webster, George Washington, and Thomas Paine.

Not only could John quote the sayings of these Americans verbatim. he supplied dates of events. as well.

"1 want to tell my people of the great army of American principles which I have learned and of what a great country America is." he concluded.

Clubs discuss dances, concert, forum, constin1tion Circle K•s main topic of debate and discussion last Wednesday was the club's Nov. 10 Sadie Hawkins Dance. Two acidfolk-rock bands, "The Backyard Brewing Company'' accompanied by Psychedelic Holtegeist of Liverpool, England, and one folk band, "Out of the Woodwork," will play at the dance with light show accompanying all of the bands.

A girl-ask-boy affair, costumes are preferred hut not mandatory. More information will be available next week.

In other business , the club inducted as new· members Charlie Brown, Tom Galloway, Bill Johnson, Brice Larsen, Phil Robinson, Ron Simecka, Tom Wheeler, and Bill Wright.

Circle K President Larry Williams will conduct the weekly meeting tomorrow at 11 a.m. in R-4.

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INTERNATIONAL FOLK CONCERT The International Club is now making plans for its annual Folk Concert. to be held intheStudentUnionfrom8to10 p.m. on Friday. Nov. 17. Those interested in performing should contact Pat Gehris.

International Club president, at 726-2058 after 4 p.m . Performers must audition.

The International Club meets each Monday at 11 a.m. in F-22.

YOUNG DEMOCRATS PLAN MORE FORUMS The Young Democrats will meet at 11 a.m. Friday in P-18 to plan more forums after Friday's successful forum on the pros and cons of the draft.

President Joe Wu will also take suggestions for possible future speakers.

YOUNG REPUBLICANS TO MEET FRIDAY The Young Republicans will meet Friday at 11 a .m. inP-22withBobThoreson presiding.

GIRLS' SERVICE AND INTERNATIONAL CLUB MEETINGS PRE-EMPTED Both the International Club and the Girls' Service Club meeting scheduled for .Monday at 11 a.m. were not held because of the U.S. Marine Concert Band performance in front of the Student Union. Both of these organizations will ICC MEETS THURSDAY The Interclub Collncil me t Thursday with Janis Rose, ICC secretary, pl·esiding.

Main topic of discussion was the ICC banquet held last night.: In other business, the Council approved a Freshman Class dance for Nov. 18, admitted the Pep Club pending their submission of a Cons tit uti on and passed WRA's activity of selling boutonnieres and corsages at the homecoming game and dance.

Danielle Corn, understudy to the female lead in "Mary, Mary," was misidentified in a photo on last week's picture page.

resume their meetings Monday. International Club in F-22 and the Girls' Service Club in R-4.

CHRISTiAN SCIENCE MEETS MONDAY The Christian Science Club, now in its third week, Thnr3ditj' with George B. Toll , faculty advisor for the club.

By-laws and the constitution of the club were the main topics of discussion as Ebb Nowry, president, and Susan Dawson. secretary, presided over the s e ven members present. Other officials will not be elected until next semester.

The club is now waiting to be recogntzed by the ICC before sponsoring speakers on campus The next meeting will be Monday in B-5 at 11 a.m.

AGS TO MEET NOV. 13 Alpha Gamma Sigma.scholastic honor society. will hold their next meeting on Monday,Nov. 13. in F-12 at II a.m. with Karen Douglass presiding.

Draft forum Periods of dead silence and shrieks of laughter marked the fir~t Forum held by the Young Democrats this semester last Friday in F-22.

"Is the draft necessary in our society today?" , was the qllestion. Speaking pro for the draft were Roy Hashberger, sophomore political science major. and John Scott, vice-president of the Vets Clu.b. Don Dilworth. sophomore sociology maJor, and Steve Woodall, TELESCOPE c o-editor were on the con side of the question. Joe Wu, Young Democrats president, served as moderator.

After giving a short history of the selective service system in the United States to allow for late comers, Wu launched the forum.

Forty minlltes later and after two bells, twenty students were still present to present their side of the question.

The next Young Democrat Forum will be held in F-22 at 11 a.m. on next Tuesday. A panel of students will discuss "How effective is Student Government at Palomar?"

Sue Shields (right) takes a few of the wives of navymen on a campus tour.

The women were guests of AWS at a tea last Wednesday.

AWS officers greet navymen's wives About 40 navymen's wives were the guests of AWS at a tea held in the Fine Arts complex last Wednesday.

The women's husbands are all involved in the Associate Degree Completion Program. which is in it' s second year here.

"We wanted the wives to have some way to get together," said Mrs. Betty Boyle, who headed the group of women.

"Our main goal is to get to know one ·another and possibly help with some aspect around school. As a group we haven't accomplished anything right now because we are just becoming acquainted."

The women were greeted by Debbie Hayward and Pat Russo, AWS president and vice president, respectively, and

by Mrs . MarjorieWallace. advisor. Miss Russo made name tags for the guests as they arrived. The service club, a newly formed branch of Aws, served punch and cookies.

Robert E. Bowman, dean of student

activities; 0 scar Gibbs, counseior· Mrs. Mary Fulton, director of nursing education; and Charles Coutts, dean of science, business, and technology were. also present.

Dean Coutts has worked closely with the Navy in instigating the program.

"This year we have about 50 navymen who are studying here at Palomar," he said. Many of them are carrying as much as 20-22 units.

"The program originated at an ad/ visory board in Washington D. C.," the dean continued. "Palomar was one of three colleges in the nation chosen bv the Navy Department to send their men to school. I had previously worked with the man ~ in the navy who is behind this program.

"A number of navymen's wives are taking courses this year with t heir husbands either during the day or at night.

Last year when we had 25 navymen attending here. all but one of the wives attended c lasses.