Dec 15th, 2012 WE GET LETTERS

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The Staff and Sword Ministry

December 15, 2012

WE GET LETTERS Hugs and Kisses --

Sticks and Stones

By: Chuck-JOHNEL

Susan F. On November 7. 2012: (Quote) "Hi Chuck-iOI- NEL, I had prayed that we would not see this day,(President Obama re-elected), but we do_ If they impeach him for anything, but it will not succeed, then how will he ever be taken out of office? I feel so sad because of what is coining. I know we can ask for mercy and I know we will see some.

Almost half of the people did not vote for this Obama. Will those who didn't see mercy?"

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Reply b y Chuck-JOHNEL: Those who voted ojrthis Beastman have put themselves in his power, to do with as he will. Others, who need to repent and pray and draw near to JESUS - i f they don 't they are subject to judgment. Right now those executing judgment are demons working through God's Law. These fallen creatures are without compassion or mercy. On the 30 day journey to Washington, DC in 1977, when the Lord revealed the coming judgment on America, He revealed that 90% of the church system of man would perish.

The only way to be safe is to draw near to JESUS CHRIST, to be intimate with Him (abiding) and to trust Him to keep each of us. We can and should pray for others, family and friends, however, so many are willful and rebellious so unless they wakeup they are going to come under the ax of judgment regardless.

Some guy broke into our house last week. He didn't even take the TV. He just took the remote control. Now he drives by and changes channels on us. Brian Kiley Sharon Z. On November 19, 2012: (Quote) "This information might have gone right

Page 2 The Staff & Sword Ministry We Get Letters December 15, 2012 Sharon Z. On November 19.2012: (Quote continued) past my brain, but can someone

tell me. ..did Adam become Satan at his death? I don't get Satan tilling the ground for all those years so it must have been after Adam's death.

So, was there a DNA change? As in when the fallen angels went into human women, there was a DNA defilement in the offspring. ..So, please someone, fill in the blanks for me. Thanks." (Unquote) Repl y by Chuck-JOHNEL: Sharon, there a lot of blanks to fill in here, but let me make a stab at it. In Genesis 2. 24 we see that Adam and Eve were "one flesh " wherever she went he was there and visa versa. They lived in a Celestial realm (Heavenly) so what we know in this Terrestrial world does not easily apply to the Heavenly realm.

The terms "man and woman " in the Celestial realm do NOT mean "male and female. "Man means SPIRIT and woman means SOUL. Years ago after studying Scripture and having Holy Spirit insights I concluded that when Adam was sent into this world (Terrestrial) being one flesh they appeared as one female. When Adam "knew" his wife (Eve) he did so much like (not exactly but

like) when Mary conceived JESUS by the Holy Spirit - the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary and she conceived. I understood that Adam also knew Eve, overshadowed her spiritually and she conceived.

On September 9, 1983 I was praying asking FATHER GOD if I had it right and was taken into Heaven and stood before the FA THER who plainly told me I had it right because this is what He revealed to me by His Spirit. FATHER then said, "BEHOLD" and He sheaved me the accidental nuclear attack, identifying the nation

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from which the ICBM's were red at the U.S. as being from R USSL4. At that time Russia was one of 15 Republics that made up the Soviet Union - Russia was not a sovereign nation. Yet the FATHER made it plain that when this accidental nuclear attack happened Russia would be a sovereign nation, the Soviet Union would have

dissolved/disappeared. In 1991 the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia became a sovereign nation as FATHER GOD revealed in 1983, some 8 years earlier. Imention this because it was at this time that FATHER GOD affirmed that Adanz and Eve appeared on this earth as one person, a female.

Adam being `greater light "and woman `'lesser light ", the Scriptures record Adam 's death which was the physical death of Eve. Odd? Consider that when GOD cast there out of the Garden of Eden (in a Celestial realm) it mentions Adam as being driven

Page 3 The Staff & Sword Ministry We Get Letters December 15, 2012 Renly_b y Chuck-TDHNEL (Continued): out, no mention of Eve. Why? Adam and

Eve were one flesh, one person. Adam 's existence on this earth was through his wife, Eve, he had life through her and death is thus recorded as Adam 's death.

Correction: You write, "As in when the fallen angels went into human women, " Actually Scripture says, "And it came to pass,...that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose... There were giants in the earth in those days..."

(Genesis b: 1-4

selections) These were fallen sons of God for their offspring were known for their wickedness.

There may have been trouble with the DNA, but I know nothing about that except to state the obvious.

By the way, Angels have no sexual organs so they are unable to reproduce. It would take a son of God to do what was done; but again, these were fallen sons of God.

The dentist told me I grind my teeth at night, so now before I go to sleep Ifill my in with hot water and coffee beans and set my alarm for seven-thirty.

Jeff Marder David-DANIEL on November 19. 2012 offered his insight: (Quote) In response to Sharon Z.'s question, above. "Well, I don't know if this helps, but I would think that Adam became Satan simply because he did not repent and joined with Lucifer. So it didn't really have anything to do with his death from the flesh. He became Satan right when he blamed God for giving him Eve, who prompted him to eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.

It probably doesn't matter with him tilling the ground. It could be that he became increasingly bitter towards God about being given "animal skins" like our fleshy bodies, and being cast out of the Garden of Eden in the Spirit." (Unquote)

Even though my ex-husband wouldfn't talk to me at my daughter's wedding, he still expected me to run his errands. He gave our son his tuxedo for me to take back. I returned it to the swimming pool. Daryl Hogue Claudia-MARIE on November 19 2012 Claudia-MARIE offered her insight: (Quote) In response to Sharon Z. and David-DANIEL, above. "So then, where is Adam's/Satan's body? And how is it that he can tempt us? What power has God given to him to be able to tempt us, and yet he is a human as we are? Did his spirit not go to where human spirits go when human beings die? Or was/is his situation a special case where his body is "buried",

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Claudia-MARIE on November 19.2012 Claudia-MARIE's insight: (Quote continued) but his human spirit is given free rein within the limits God has set?

An interesting point is that in the story of Job, Satan comes among the sons of God before God: "AGAIN, THERE WAS A DAY WHEN THE SONS OF GOD CAME TO PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD, AND SATAN CAME ALSO AMONG THEM TO PRESENT HIMSELF BEFORE THE LORD..." So who are those sons of God, humans I think, and here is Satan among them, so that is a point for Satan to be human somehow.

And then, in Revelation 12:9; "AND THE GREAT DRAGON WAS CAST OUT, THAT OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL, AND SATAN, WHICH DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD: HE WAS CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH, AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM." The question then arising, to whom does the HE refer to who was cast out of the earth, and whose were the angels that were cast out? And if DEVIL and SATAN refer to two different beings, who is the HIM in "...WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM..."?

There is that sticky wicket of the comma which comes after "...CALLED THE DEVIL..."; which comma is in the King James version but not in many other versions of the Bible. That comma makes it look to be two separate beings, but if that were so, would it not be translated as such, always?

Jesus did say that He saw Satan fall from Heaven like lightning, but He did not say devil at that point. Which could make sense if Lucifer is the devil and the devil is not Satan.

I had not ever heard of Satan and the devil not being the same being until hearing C-J's teaching on it. And since then, I have been working on understanding that possibility.

It does sound logical, but then when at the Last Supper, the Word of God says that Satan entered Judas. How can another human spirit enter a human being?

Another thing is that the Bible does not say that Adam ever repented. Interesting, but he did live a very long time in the fallen earth, fallen due to original sin which he and Eve committed, and that he had many more children.

Plus, is there teaching among the Church fathers, the Apostles, or in the New Testament that Adam is Satan? Then back to, how can a human spirit enter another human being—referring to Satan and Judas at the Last Supper?

I am really interested in any responses regarding the above questions. Thank you Blessings always." (Unquote)

I asked this woman why she had two Seeing Eye dogs, and she said one was for reading. Jonathan Katz David-DANIEL on November 20, 2012 Replies: (Quote) In response to Claudia-MARIE, above. "Very good detailed analysis. But I think you forgot one thing ... namely original sin. If Adam had repented we would not still be stuck with that inheritance, and there

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David-DANIEL on November 20 2012 Relies: uvte continued) would have been no need for Jesus to die on the cross to save us from the consequences of our inherited

tendencies to sin. As for fallen Adam being Satan, there are only faint clues in the Bible as you pointed out. The quote in Revelation 12:9". .AND THE GREAT DRAGON WAS CAST OUT, THAT OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL, AND SATAN, WHICH DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD: HE WAS CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH, AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM", could be interpreted as you mentioned.

Yes, it did not say "THEY WERE CAST OUT" indicating two separate personalities.

Adam was already "in the earth" so to speak, but not Lucifer—that old serpent. So one could

read that Lucifer was cast out into the earth, but Adam was already here. So saying "HE WAS CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH, AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM" could easily apply only to Lucifer because Adam was already "in the earth".

Then there is Chuck's experience in the Spirit, where he has seen another shadowy figure behind Lucifer who tries to remain hidden and apparently works closely with Lucifer to destroy mankind. Adam being our earthly "father" can counterfeit Father God. We could think we are hearing Father God's voice and it really is the counterfeit. So it does make some sense that Adam is playing the role of Satan, and Lucifer the devil and dragon. They want us to think that there is only one individual as both the devil and Satan.

Maximum deception is the goal of those two. I don't know what else to say. There is the intellectual picking apart of the Bible translations, which may not mean much in the face of Holy Spirit revelation being superior to an intellectual analysis. What does Jesus say?

I suppose the key point is to always test and prove the spirits, no matter if it appears to be Jesus, Father God, or an angel of the Lord. Those who are of God are not offended by us testing them. Those who are of the enemy in Satan and/or Lucifer's camp are always offended by anyone testing them to prove them of God or not. Also, anyone who is sent

by God or Jesus will be filled with love and light. If there is no love in them then they are not of God. Anyway, you know all this and I am probably "preaching to the choir". Good discussion though." (Unquote)

Ifailed my driver's test. The guy asked me, "What do you do at a red light? "I said, "I donn't know. Look around, listen to the radio?" Bill Braudis Claudia-MARIE on November 20, 2012 replies: (Quote) In response to David-DANIEL, above. "Oh No!! ! I love your response. Please do not ever think you are preaching to the

choir in telling me about anything to do with God. I want ever so much to know Him, so that I love Him and His more, so that I serve Him better and go around that loop over and over again!

As children at Catholic school, our catechism taught us that we were made to know, love, and serve God; but it is really only in my latter years (just turned 69) that I am really getting a handle on how if we know Him, we will love Him, and then our desire will be so strong to serve Him, and then to know Him even better...

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Claudia-MARIE on November 20, 2012 replies: (Quote continued) I do remember an

i mpression which I have been told means two, which is "What the deuce?" And that that refers to the devil, or ? Perhaps Lucifer and Satan?

Anyway, God knows all, and we know in pa rt, and that is fine with me

Comment by Chuck-JOHNEL: David- DANIEL did a . fi ne job in addressing the many questions raised . Claudia-MARIE did her research and made a fine presentation, however it was very complex and intertwined. They kind of did my jab,

something I'm not unhappy about.

I will make a comment on the questions: "... Where is Adam/Satan's body? And how is it that he can tempt us... yet he is a human as we are? Did his spirit not go to where human spirits go when human beings die?"

Adam 's body was Eve, he was a spirit and never had a body of his own; rather he works through the soul lives of his begotten children. When we are born into this world we come in through AdamlSatan and there is an innate recognition of him as being "our , father-. " As we die our soul-life goes back to God or Hell depending on whether or not we are saved through JESUS CHRIST. AdamlSatan was never a human like that, Eve was a human but not him.

God gave AdamlSatan dominion over everything on earth and he reflected that in Job when FATHER asked him (Satan) what he was doing and he stated matter offact that he was going up and down the earth. This was and is his domain given to him

by God in the beginning. He is the prince of this world. When Eve died he lost his soul-life and since then he works through the soul lives of his children. Over them he has sign UI cant influence, he is slick and very deceptive and easily manipulates those open to hint. Christians, because they are so little taught of the beginning, are subject to Satan/Adam 's temptations because inwardly they recognize him as their spiritual , father. This is why it states in the Bible that when we come to Christ we are ADOPTED - adoption clearly reveals we had another father and that was and for many is SatanlAdam.

What should you do when you see an endangered animal that is eating an endangered plant? George Carlin End of WE GET LETTERS. God bless.

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