Comments on Will Happer/Willem van Wijngaarden paper – Dependence of Earth’s Thermal Radiation on Five Most Abundant Greenhouse Gases Kelvin Kemm December 4, 2020 I found it most interesting going through the Will Happer/Willem van Wijngaarden paper. It indicates that there is a saturation point, but it also shows that the whole CO2 climate change issue is far more complex than the Al Gore/Leonardo Di Caprio model suggests. As far as the comments of Gary Young go, I really enjoyed them. I like 'nailed it' and 'definitive'. Also 'CO2 was innocent' is a neat phrase. It was really interesting to see the approach of Gary essentially confirming what Will and Willem indicated. I really appreciated Gary explaining the challenges of bringing real physics into engineering production aimed at financial profitability. I have been involved in that over many years so I really appreciated the experiences explained. But now the challenge that we have is how to take CO2 physics evidence like this, and then to converted it into the type of story that can appear in Vogue and Cosmopolitan. I am not joking. The policies of governments are decided by politicians. They in turn listen very much to 'public opinion.' The 'public opinion' is very much like the biblical explanation of the ploughed land into which you sow your grain. If good grain does not land in prepared ground then it does not achieve very much. (Will told me a bit about his experiences in the White House of trying to talk to political-types. I had great sympathy, I know all about that.) The extreme greens have invested huge amounts of money and effort into preparing the public opinion in such a way that it not only favours them, but also condemns and trivializes the type of information of the Will/Willem/Gary type. The greens are looking for political power so that they can dictate how all people must live their lives. The goal of 'Saving the Planet For All Mankind' is the basis of their moral claim to be telling everybody not only what to do but also how to think, so that 'climatedeniers' are denied the opportunity to alter the narrative. Most Physics and Engineering people are not interested in getting into a bun-fight with public opinion. It is risky and exhausting. But sadly that is where the real power lies. 1