Vic No Till: From The Ground Up - Shelbourne Pages (issue 49)

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Stripper front @ZeroTillNowie

GRANT – Dad and I haven’t seen up wheat yields like it before, they were Our . ocks padd e som in a es/h tonn to 7.2 a. canola yields were around 2.8 tonnes/h

How did your paddocks cope with the high rainfall?

Why did you purchase the Shelbourne?

To be able to have all that extra stubble is attractive in our Mallee down conditions for shading and slowing wind speed.

What did it achieve for you?

Did you have any losses?

I did have some losses in a canola companion crop which was mixed up e. with some vetch, it was a bit aggressiv on inati The canola had lower germ bit than ideal so the Shelbourne was a s seed the wasteful, it was shedding t before I could capture them so I wen t. fron er) (drap back to the cutter bar But the losses can be learned. The and Shelbourne has an aggressive rotor can you erly prop if it’s not operating . lose seeds before they get captured d avoi to ing train of bit It just takes a those losses and it’s different for each can crop, even during the day conditions work to ers farm the to up change. It’s , out how to set it up for their paddocks

The tour was funded through the GRD

which is where the Vic No-Till farmers helping farmers philosophy comes in. on I had a few farmers in the network about Tom rang I ple speed dial. For exam ne bour Shel the use the canola beca very was devastating the canola, it was rent diffe a been la cano brittle. Had the ld variety that was really tough, it wou any with Like le. ptab acce have been piece of equipment, you’ve got to keep an eye on settings.

Is this a valuable tool in your system?

The Shelbourne is not new in other a countries, and has been around for any by long time. We’re not pioneers are means, but we’ve found people who as ully essf using the Shelbourne succ part of their zero-till systems and now ems. we’re trying to fit it to our own syst able valu a been I’m only learning but it’s tool for me.

GRANT - We had some water laying in paddocks, but the better parts of paddocks had such good yields it outweighed the waterlogged parts. ed Some of our compass barley was lodg and some oats went down a bit.

TROY - We had a few laying down up no crops which the Shelbourne picked get d worries at all. As long as you coul lem down low enough, which is no prob thing e at home, it does exactly the sam as it does to a standing crop.

What led you to purchasing a Shelbourne?

TROY - During Harvest15 Vic No-Till and did a Shelbourne demo on our place were we didn’t want to give it back. We o pretty keen to get one after this dem and so did a bit of searching around did a found a second hand one in SA, we our ch mat few modifications to get it to go. to right 9m CTF system and it was

What were some of the measurements you took?

TROY – I kept a pretty close eye on tonnes/hr and the Shelbourne was in consistently around 60 tonnes/hr and es/ tonn the heavier crops up to 70-80 age hr. On a normal front we usually aver around 40-50 tonnes/hr.

C stubble initiative project

It did create a logistical challenge as the header goes straight into field bins to and two trucks, but it’s a good problem have.

How did you go with adjusting your settings?

How was harvest?

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Magnificent efficiency straight off.

It doubled my harvest capacity and that enabled me to take on a contract job when I’d finished at home. It was nd. excellent in crops that lay on the grou to hard it’s ls, lenti in nt nifice It was mag believe how good.

Victoria, NSW and SA We spoke to a number of growers from time or have been using a who tested, tried, used for the first ing systems.

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@KeatingTroy @GrantKeating

One of the earliest adopters of zero a d teste till CTF in the Mallee, Ross d Shelbourne in Harvest15 and purchase ne bour one for Harvest16. The Shel enabled him to finish his harvest early ract then move to the Wimmera to cont

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Troy & Grant Keating, WERNETH VIC

Ross Watson NOWIE VIC

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There was a slight fuel efficiency although I didn’t keep a close eye on it. With crops being fairly tough in the stalks this year it was a bit hard to have great fuel efficiency. In the heat of the day we were using around 35L/ hr whereas late at night when it’s a lot harder to strip the head off it was around 55L/hr. s When we started we had a few losse ing putt out of the rotor and we ended up . in all large wire concaves to stop that stop ed We also found that speed help get the losses out the front, so we had to up t fron the the speed right to help seal rent and keep it full. It was definitely diffe re you’ re whe t, going from a draper fron go to able be to d, stuck on a slower spee be to right quite feel so quick – it doesn’t est. harv at able to go so quick GRANT – We were getting some small losses in the Trojan wheat, it to seemed very brittle this year and easy d spee and iency effic the shake out. But outweighed these losses for sure.

Using the Shelbourne for our barley in and wheat made a huge difference . ation oper le who our of iency the effic ay nesd Wed on est harv hed We finis night (Jan 18) then had 25mm of rain ne on Thursday night. So the Shelbour year this f itsel for paid ly ntial pote has by saving us from having our wheat downgraded.

TROY - It took us a couple of d paddocks to get everything fine-tune and go – knowing how fast you can getting the grain losses down to an acceptable rate. It’s a totally different concept so it takes a bit to get the header set up correctly and get used re to the front. Things like knowing whe to e spok I hts. heig t to run it and wha Ben Beck a bit when I first started, then , a couple of phone calls to Grant Sims able g Bein ort. supp of just to get a bit to speak to somebody that’s used one a before and speaking to someone with . well as s help er head lar pretty simi

Do you have any concerns about sowing time?

TROY - Looking at our stubbles I’m excited but sort of scared. Sowing time is going to be the test – whether we can get good crop establishment in our standing wheat stubble. I’ve been ’ll speaking to others and they say they ous nerv bit a but all at ies worr do it no doing it for the first time.

What are you planning to sow into your stubbles?

TROY - We’re going to sow canola in the standing wheat stubble, it’s a pretty small plant to start with so the and challenges will be to keep the slugs gets it until it from y awa g everythin ight established plus getting enough sunl e thos all tick can we If too. it into down . right be ld shou we s boxe

Tom Robinson HOYLETON SA @AnashkaFarms

Tom, the former SANTFA president, bought his first Shelbourne after a ble study tour to NZ where he saw stub his on loads similar to what he had a farm. Harvest16 was his sixth with Shelbourne.

How did it perform?

It went exactly as it has for the last six years I’ve owned it – I’m extremely happy. It was my second year with a nt new model 36-footer and it’s a brillia of nts yme enjo the of One . machine harvest is stripping wheat and the tonnes/hr we can strip with it makes g harvest a lot easier for Dad and I, bein of a two man band. It’s just a lovely bit gear to use.

What sort of harvest efficiencies have you gained from the Shelbourne?

What about losses?

I didn’t buy it for the harvest efficiencies, I bought it for the seeding component and being able to save that extra moisture in the summertime with ing the long straw it leaves behind. Sow time ing seed at bles through those stub nt. with my disc seeder is just magnifice . easy It’s a breeze, it’s

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A good friend of mine describes it as ’s a comb running through your hair; that ing runn how my disc seeder works through the long straw, like a comb running through hair. My losses are r minimal; they’re comparable if not bette me, For als. cere than a draper front on g it’s handy to have higher speeds durin I r. faste go to it buy ’t harvest but I didn it bought it for seeding time – I bought tion. erva cons ture mois for for my soil and s. bonu d adde an is iency Harvest effic

What other impact has a Shelbourne had on your zero-till CTF system?

In winter time I’ve noticed we’ve got us higher soil temperatures which gives of hs dept the in ng more nutrient cycli winter when we need it.

Blokes who’ve had 10-15 years draper front experience know how they work and now, with six years what stripper front experience, we know of piece r othe any we’re doing. It’s like , guys to chat to machinery, you have ask to ed scar be t don’ learn about it and are e Ther up. it set to questions on how ralia Aust in now nd arou ers enough grow red using Shelbournes with different colou y. awa call e phon a only is headers; help r dolla a had I If me. call to le I want peop t abou had I’ve call e phon y for ever stripper fronts this harvest I’d be a like wealthy man. They’re not questions t it isn’t not working, it’s questions abou of how can I get a little bit more out t this? What height should I set it, wha up me rotor speed? I’ve had guys ring and they’ve been able to get another 10-15 tonnes/hr out of it by adjusting their settings.

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been able to get another ’ve ey th d an up e m g rin ys gu d ha e “I’v g their settings.”

10-15 tonnes/hr out of it by adjustin Tom Robinson

How important is it to get your settings right?

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You harvested a canola and peas companion crop with your Shelbourne, how did that go?

It worked well. I ran a normal canola snail sieve while harvesting with the d Shelbourne and the few peas I picke er. head the of back the of up I threw out thick nice in r bette s work ne The Shelbour you canola. If the canola is too thin, then la cano the er bett The s. will get losse s. crop the better the Shelbourne work

Chris Leed PYRAMID HILL VIC @StraitPlains

10km south of Pyramid Hill since 2004 No-till system since 2006, minimum till 10.67m Bagshaw PSS bar, CTF increments of ems probl ty salini Heavy clay soils, Destocked of sheep since 2009

Why were you interested in being part of the Test and Try tour?

I wanted to see if it would improve the am performance of my harvester and I ues. resid ble stub r keen to retain talle I have observed in the past with tall stubbles the crop has to grow taller ing to meet the sunlight and I was gett year a in , Also . that with yield improved where the majority of my crop was laying over one way or another, I was pretty keen to see how it performed.

How long did you have the Shelbourne in your paddock?

Three to four hours.

nce my aim is to be ere nf co 16 20 ill -T No Vic e th to ing go r “Afte farmer.” more of a soil farmer than a cropping Dom Douglas-Garden What did it harvest and how did it go?

We put it over a barley crop that had a fair lean on it; it had been blown over by the wind. The yield in that paddock was 4.7 tonne/ha. We harvested it east-west as well as north-south. It performed very well going west into ing the lean but heading east it was leav g goin that d foun also We nd. heads behi crop the way the ss acro uth, north-so was leaning, picked it up not too bad.

More specifically, going west it t performed very similar to draper fron le. and the losses were pretty reasonab d But overall, during the demo, we foun the we experienced more losses with t. stripper front than with draper fron able port a Dad described it like putting hailstorm over your paddock, although he certainly gave it more merit than what I did.

With the Shelbourne front I was able to achieve average of 28 tonnes/hr in the conditions at the time compared to 26 tonnes/hr with my conventional y front. In a good standing crop of barle ng getti was front my conventional

48 tonnes/hr, so with good standing I crops I think it would really shine but ent didn’t see a great marked improvem . in the conditions it was in at the time g I was expecting more in my layin it down crops although I certainly gave and in, it challenging conditions to try I it did disappoint in those conditions. est harv good think it would be suited to think I . crop conditions in good standing a good crop of wheat it would really stand out. I don’t think barley was the best for it.

What other challenges did you experience during the demo?

The weight of the front was really heavy, and my machine is an older model harvester 9760 JD and it struggled to pick it up. I would need larger diameter lifting rams to be able to lift it adequately, whereas the later model harvesters wouldn’t have a problem. I would also need lateral tilt.

a the demo didn’t blow me away. I was e som seen I’ve bit disappointed because e som d hear good footage on YouTube, ’t great things but the results I got didn ng buyi off er bett be stand out. For me I’d e mor for ing look I’m bigger harvester if capacity, but in saying that I haven’t written it off yet. I’m looking forward and to sowing into those stubbles now , crop ’s year next in fits bene tracking the I’ll e ther es renc diffe ed mark e if I see som look a lot harder. s I didn’t see the harvest efficiency gain erns I was hoping, and I have some conc h whic mice ing feed nd behi grain ing leav could have a detrimental effect to establishing next year’s crop.

How are you going to handle the residue at sowing time?

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Would you try the Shelbourne agai

I thought the Shelbourne might be another tool in our no-till system but

I’ve got a lot of confidence we’ll get through stubbles no problem with er our Bagshaw parralellagram seed t of fron in ter coul disc a run we which k with two-inch poly pipe on the shan nd which allows material to pass arou it more easily.

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Dom Douglas-Garden, Caldwell NSW @dommmma

 Farms with Dad Tim Garden & Uncle Dick Shirley Returned to the farm a year ago after travelling overseas 100% broadacre with 2-5% irrigation Farm set up for growing rice Sheep and rice until mid to late 90s - also Diverse rotation plan: barley main crop beans) canola, wheat, legumes (peas & faba front tyne Boss seeder tyne machine, coulter at and double press wheel out the back 12m Transitioning to CTF, everything set to and 36m tracks

Why were you interested in being part of the Test and Try tour?

The main thing was being able to keep that straw cover on the paddock, and ion keeping the wind and sun evaporat ally typic We soil. the ing down, shad do a lot of spraying in summer so this r would help keep summer weeds unde we s thing est bigg the of One control. were attracted to was the speed of er harvesting, if we can harvest at a quick n rate and pick everything up lying dow it’s a off the ground especially the barley, big win for us.

What did it harvest and how did it go?

It was pretty quick. We set it up on ed the JD S670. We put it into a desiccat s losse of lot a canola crop and we got so it didn’t perform too well but in the la. right conditions it might work in cano

ts What are some of the measuremen s)? rage (ave you took Amount harvested Barley, 274 tonnes Fuel Shelbourne - averaged 1.34 litres per tonne; JD 40-foot draper front 1.8 litres per tonne Speed Shelbourne – 40 tonnes/hr; JD 33 tonnes/hr (keeping in mind it’s not a

bit skilled operator driving it, it’s quite a we so front er drap a g drivin to rent diffe city) capa full its to it ing work n’t were

In your system, what are some of your concerns with the Shelbourne?

One concern is being able to sow through it. We have a tyne machine, not a disc machine, so the stubble load A might be a challenge at seeding time. of disc machine is definitely in the back my mind, we’re looking to increase the percentage of legumes and hay we’re growing by 20-25% - to be serious we . really would be best with a disc machine of set a g We are looking at purchasin but discs to go on our Boss to do that job on rely we is our biggest concern there ack, I treflane and chemicals which is a setb bit. a elves ours pped wonder if we’ve entra a I’m into; look to g This is all stuff I’m tryin back been only g havin steep learning curve on the farm for a year.

a day, some days “We could easily take off 500 tonne in closer to 700.” Grant Sims

Grant Sims PINE GROVE VIC Twitter @grant_sims

Sometimes you look back on a you particular harvest and think ‘if only’ , Well . year that for tool r had a particula the for tool ct perfe the for once we had ideal harvest. It was perfect timing to have this for our big harvest with big g if crops. I’d still be out there harvestin ne. bour Shel the not for

ts headers. But we would go most nigh ne bour until 3 in the morning, the Shel had was just plucking the heads off. We but bit a r to speed up the stripper roto we could keep going, we could start s earlier as well - so it was a real bonu that in get to and a massive benefit extra 6 hours of harvesting each day.

What are some of the benefits you noticed with your Shelbourne?

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How does it compare to your norm knife front?

We don’t have that lasting residue lodged on the ground, that’s a massive benefit to us at sowing.

That huge residue that’s left behind standing, which will provide shade help protection of the soil from sun and the n dow cuts also in, ture mois trap the and rain and wind from ion eros and wind . insulates the soil temperature as well heat It’s amazing how much the soil can up and cool down when it’s bare, it’s can amazing the difference this stubble the , year make. Perfect rain this time of in. ture stubble will trap all that mois

Our tonnes/hr were massive this year with the Shelbourne. We used to think taking off 300 tonne of grain in a day was good going, this year we could easily take off 500 tonne in a day, some days closer to 700 tonnes in a day. Just amazing.

I had some wheat that was going between 50-70 tonnes/hr with a 7 s series JD header. In those condition be with a normal knife front I’d getting around 35 tonnes/hr.

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How did it handle your lodged crop

Anything that was down, it just flew over that. Some of the crops laying down whatever direction, if you harvested same direction as they were laying it just plucked off the heads but it if you went the opposite way back, up back ble stub the all would stand to be actually higher than the crop we hadn’t harvested. All our paddocks look like we haven’t even been in there but it’s only when you look closely and see there are no heads on the plants. The e. stubble is nearly as high as the fenc y We had a 6-6.5 tonnes/ha barle crop laying down and it took a bit to get used to the front, getting your What are you planning for your head around how it actually works but Shelbourne stubbles?

I was going 7.5-8km in the header We’re likely to put a legume into that with the front hard on the ground. It stubble, so it will be a trial within that it and was sucking up the heads and I’d look paddock which will have a cereal in to at the yield monitor and the grain was we would like put a legume in there test the system.

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We then put it into our barley which was down and tangled. This was a 4-5 tonne/ha crop and it was just streaming through it. I couldn’t believe when it would pull the heads off the top of the plant and the straw would stand up n afterwards. It went from all laying dow like and tangled to all standing up, it was is going through straw with a comb. It ). still standing now (a month later

Soil health is something I’m really focussed on – after going to the Vic No-Till 2016 conference my aim is to ping be more of a soil farmer than a crop get t don’ we farmer. I keep getting told to enough rainfall but it’s good to talk The s. idea ce boun different people and main thing I’m looking to is educate we myself around farming, things I find we can how it, t abou discuss and talk implement it – the forefathers of this their place pretty well educated, they do just is this and , sure for ’s research that could part of looking into something that em. syst our improve

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to just pouring in the tank. Then I’d stop ing noth was e ther and nd grou look on there. It’s just amazing. Neighbours, e with a conventional front in the sam and conditions, were down to 3km/hr g really working the header processin it e mak all that biomass. This also can ple sam challenging to get a good clean of grain. With the Shelbourne the headers didn’t seem to work as hard and the wear and tear on the internal h components and bearings was muc less overall.

How valuable is this amount of residue to your system?

It’s just amazing the residue that’s Tom left. The growers like Ben Beck and

ne Robinson that have used a Shelbour until wait ‘You for more years have said you sow into it, you’ll have none of all it that chaff and residue on the ground, good get and ugh should just chop thro seed to soil contact and flatten all that straw down’- I can’t wait.

What were some of the other advantages?

This year we didn’t have a hot dry and harvest, there was the odd shower and s ning some moisture in the mor t night coming in. When the sun wen of lot a hear d down at 9pm we coul people having to knock off because although the grain moisture was okay the straw was too tough for normal

The chaser bin driver was really under the pump. Two years ago we had a good year and had two headers in the paddock. This harvest the chaser bin driver said he was working harder than that with just our one stripper front.

Fuel useage was way down – we used 20-30% less fuel. With anything you can make the numbers work.

The fuel savings is one thing but I look at with normal header taking 35 tonnes you’ve got 2 headers and another driver and another 60L/hr of fuel, taking off 70 tonnes. Buy a stripper front for $120,000 to get the same amount of grain but only one driver and 20% less fuel. It’s massive if you do the numbers with savings and efficiencies.

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What are you doing with your residue?

We’re leaving ours in the paddock, I on want the stubble. This is my sole reas had I 0 201 In for buying the Shelbourne. to a paddock for oats that I was going a was It wet. cut for hay but it got too the all left and d massive crop, I harveste ock padd this year oat stubble. Since that put I and ier heav a has yielded 400kg/h it down to that big stubble because everything else is the same. Because e of that heavy residue we’ve got mor ture struc soil er bett e, carbon in ther with and it protected that soil. This year, bles stub big and s crop sive such mas from the Shelbourne, it’s going to set been our paddocks up going forward. I’ve bles stub big ing grow t abou ming drea like this for 10 years.

How are you going to handle the residue at sowing time?

You’ve got to have a disc, or do something different with the residue. hay Most people in our area cut a lot of d suite isn’t ue resid straw of sort and this g for that but I’ve had dairy farmers askin for bedding straw and the stripper straw

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is perfect. In SA some people use the ms. stripper straw for growing mushroo e mor 20% People have told me they get t fron per strip straw from a Shelbourne of than off a knife front. There are lots deal and it t other ways to think abou with it, even if you don’t have a disc seeder. Because of our disc seeder, I don’t see us having any issues at sowing. The only problem is if we get rots lots of summer rain and the stubble Ben and nson Robi Tom . off and falls over say and us than all rainf er Beck have high . straw al norm than into sow it’s easier to

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Was it hard to get your settings righ

Just understanding how it handles the ’s seeds in the header was different, that where Vic No-Till comes in. Through those networks I rang Ben Beck, Tom s Robinson and Ross Watson a few time and ngs to talk about the different setti I had Grant Keating ring me. We’re all of trying to set it better and there’s a bit g tunin fine fine tuning. Every year the will be a little bit different to the last. the The other thing we found was that in certa a at it run to dealers will tell you t poin ing start speed which is a good

and guide but you’ve got to adjust it to your conditions. Understanding we ngs have to run it differently to the setti ng Havi t. rtan impo is seas that work over in here it g usin es blok a network of Australia is the key to getting your settings right as they can make a real We difference with capacity, for example. est, harv g durin ges chan of s heap made and it’s just a matter of understanding how it handles the seeds.

What adjustments did you make to driver speed?

The first paddock Dad did was oats and he ploughed into it hard which is – what he does with the normal front s load ne engi the until hard in he goes the with up load ldn’t wou it up but g too Shelbourne. Next thing he was goin . quick and had grain going out the back just He had to slow down because he wasn’t used to it. Once he had the right er. speed the yield was going much bett xing Rela .

Dad loved it, it’s good to drive in a way because you don’t have al everything flicking around. On a norm this n, dow up g front you’re always liftin you just push it down and off you go.

Driver comfort was good.

Chris Drum RUPANYUP VIC @chrisjdrum Farms with brother Gerald Life member of Vic No-Till of One of the Wimmera’s early adopters no-till farming

How did a Shelbourne end up in your paddocks?

I was at my neighbour’s Paul Oxbrow s and he had contracted Ross Watson’ at ing work Shelbourne. We watched it Paul’s and were pretty keen to get our a hands on one to speed up what was y tuall even We est. frustratingly slow harv bring to ee Mall the tracked one down in back to our place.

What were you hoping to achieve?

I wanted to go faster and I wanted in to see what sort of job it was doing t. fron own our to on comparis

How did it perform?

It sped our header up enormously on at the downed crops. We used it on whe flat was that was down and barley that It did on the ground. It worked really well. we but uth a beautiful job going north-so , east the to n did struggle on crops dow foot four s it struggled picking up stalk g to long on the ground when it was tryin up it pick to hard go same way – it was uth properly. But we did all our north-so were and ne bour Shel paddocks with the very happy. I would nearly back one . against the other, both look quite good e ther job, good y reall a I think it does are certainly instances where you just to cannot use Shelbourne, you’d have at ed look I t. fron r othe your always have y reall I – ls lenti ’s Paul in son Ross Wat a didn’t think it would work, but it did ls. lenti on job good y reall

How did you think it would fit into your zero-till CTF system?

We did a lot of comparisons in paddocks and have a lot of half paddocks so we can follow it forward, ping and we will be a lot wiser after crop to have you s thing e thos of one time. It’s ing look e We’r self. your for try and prove

ng at the residue on the ground, and testi into. sow to r what’s going to be easie use The Shelbourne might be easier beca and up ble stub d it seems to have stoo have not all that chaff on the ground. We g bein est harv this after a lot of residue be to g goin it’s think I such a big one. a struggle going through any paddock (Shelbourne or normal front) with the ue disc seeder with such enormous resid a know will We . year this nd on the grou . ping crop after e lot mor

What did you harvest with the Shelbourne, did you gain efficiencies?

We did around 20% of our cereals and there is no question that the efficiency of the header nearly doubled. This is massive, it’s like having an extra header, which in turn halves fuel and everything else.

What are some of the strengths of the Shelbourne for you?

Strengths of Shelbourne are quite clearly: Efficiency of your header is close to double.

There are so many benefits in leaving as much stubble on your paddocks as possible.

I’ve always advocated for the more In stubble the better – residue is king. ary ordin extra a year like this, there’s an the so amount of residue there Shelbourne residue benefits might not be as obvious this time around. But as someone who is pretty much just

learning about what the Shelbourne can achieve, I can see this would be fantastic, especially for the Mallee who struggle to keep their residue. If you think about the reasons why someone like Ross Watson has purchased one, it’s a complete given because they struggle getting residue. If those guys can keep their residue they’ll be laughing. Going forward the guys e who’ve used the Shelbourne up ther will benefit for years.

How important is it to get the settings right?

Settings very important – I’d say hugely important to have settings and a height right, and this changes from . even 35 degree day to 25 degree day ve It’s like driving any header, you’ got to have the settings right. It’s a r. I completely different front altogethe was it rall Ove had Ross on speed dial. easier to drive because you haven’t day, got this big reel wheeling away all . good was it on, it was less tiring I reck be ld wou it crop If you had a standing an absolute breeze.

What are you going to plant into your Shelbourne stubbles?

Most of the paddocks we will probably put in beans, they don’t care how high stubble is, the higher the better. The le Shelbourne stood up the stubble. Peop ing sow t abou tant who are a little bit hesi g into such tall stubble, I think it’s goin than er rath ugh thro to be easier to sow two inches of mulch on top which is coming out of the chopper.