TABLE OF CONTENTS
EDITOR IN CHIEF: HEATHER KOEPP
LAYOUT DESIGN: ELISE COATES
ARCHETYPES COLLIDE
Interview by Heather Koepp
Photos by James Coffman
BRADEN BALES
Interview, Photos and Wardrobe Styling by Heather Koepp
Men’s Grooming: Mx. Monroe James
BJRNCK
Interview and Photos by Heather Koepp
Wardrobe Styling and Creative Director: Oththan Burnside
Hair Stylist: Keera Griffin
Makeup Artist: Nelly Santiago
SUECO
Interview and Photos by Heather Koepp
Wardrobe Styling: Antonio Knight
Men’s Grooming: Mx. Monroe James assisted by Jocelyn Sfetcu
THE BARBARIANS OF CALIFORNIA
Interview and Photos by Heather Koepp
A DAY TO REMEMBER CONCERT REVIEW
Review and Photos: Heather Koepp
RYAN WOODS
Interview and Photos: Heather Koepp
TAYLOR ACORN
Interview by Heather Koepp
Photos by Ellie White
KALEO CONCERT REVIEW
Review and Photos: Heather Koepp
Archetypes Collide has gained recognition for skillfully blending 90s pop-punk and rock influences with a modern twist. Their unique sound, characterized by heavy and dark tones, aligns well with the current modern rock scene. The band’s vocalist, Kyle Pastor, along with Tyler Flamm (drums), Brandon Baker (guitar), Jared Knister (guitar), and Ky Sanders (bass), have received significant support from platforms like Knotfest, expanding their reach and connecting them with a broader audience.
Their music has evolved to explore more complex themes and refined production, evident in songs like “Parasite” and “What If I Fall,” which delve into introspective and emotional territories. Their recent cover of Lit’s 1999 hit, “My Own Worst Enemy,” is a bold reinterpretation, showcasing their ability to infuse a well-known song with their distinct style. The band’s fearlessness in reimagining classics and dedication to evolving their sound demonstrate their passion and commitment to their craft. Today, Rival sits down with Kyle Pastor to discuss the success of “My Own Worst Enemy” and what’s next for Archetypes Collide.
YOUR BAND ARCHETYPES COLLIDE RECENTLY RECORDED A VERSION OF LITS’ 1999 SONG, “MY OWN WORST ENEMY.” WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO CHOOSE THAT SONG? I think for us, we’re a bunch of 90s kids, and the pop-punk scene was pretty sick back then. Growing up, whether it was, you know, Sum 41 or Linkin Park or Blink 182, I mean, there’s so many great bands that we loved growing up that influenced us and what we do. We did a cover song a while ago and had a good time with it, so we started discussing recording another cover. When we took a second look at “My Own Worst Enemy,” we noticed that its structure is very cheerful and upbeat; however, the fundamental rhythm of the guitars, drums, and everything else is very rock and metal. We thought it would be really cool to tweak t a little bit, make it our own, and give it a darker tone. We’re super stoked with how it turned out.
YOU PARTNERED UP WITH KNOTFEST FOR THE PREMIERE; HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? Knotfest has always been very supportive of us; we’ve partnered on several projects in the past and have always had a great relationship with them. When it came to releasing “My Own Worst Enemy,” it was an obvious choice to collaborate with them on this debut.
behind the scenes is fun for me. I have a real passion for that kind of stuff.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK FROM LIT REGARDING YOUR VERSION OF ,” MY OWN WORST ENEMY”? One of our TikTok’s popped off and got a lot of traction, and they ended up commenting on that like, “Hey! This is sick!”. I was like, “Yes, we got the approval! The Hail Mary! We are not worthy!” It was a risk, and the way we did it was a different style than the original, which I think when it comes to covers, you have to make it your own. You can’t just do a one-to-one and call it a day; there’s gotta be some creativity in that. There’s a vulnerability in that, and to see them say, “Yo, this is dope. The band killed it!” It was a really cool feeling. So yeah, the kid in me was screaming, “Oh my gosh!!!”
guitar riff, and rhythmic style are between these two music genres. In the studio, we decided to make the music darker and more minor and to incorporate heavy elements because we love that kind of stuff.
ARCHETYPES COLLIDE HAVE RELEASED A FEW NEW ORIGINAL SONGS INCLUDING, “PARASITE,”
“ WHAT IF I FALL,” AND “DESTINY,”
ALL OF WHICH DELVE INTO MORE PROFOUND LYRICS. CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT WENT INTO MAKING THESE TRACKS? We’ve been a band for a while; we started writing and recording music back in 2014, so Tyler, our drummer, and I have been together this whole time. He and I joke that we’ve been hanging out longer than I’ve known my wife. When we first started, everything we made sounded terrible, but we kept working at it. Over the past
ten years, we have practiced and perfected our craft, and it’s rewarding to see the band mature over the years. Many of the songs on the new album, especially “What if I Fall,” are pretty introspective, but that comes naturally to me. It’s therapeutic. I’m not the type to freak out and start yelling at people in person. I avoid conflict, and in personality tests like the Enneagram, I’m a type nine. When things get heated, I prefer to leave or crack a joke to defuse the situation. Writing has always been a healthy outlet for me to express my thoughts and emotions. It’s been beneficial for me, as well as for our fans. Many fans have told us that our song “What if I Fall” is exactly what they needed to hear during a certain moment in their life. That song reflects my experience of going on tour right after the band got signed. I have a wife and kids at home, and I’m torn between seizing the opportunity I’ve created with music or staying home and being present with my family. I’ve heard from several fans who have connected with this song, particularly fathers who work remotely or in the military and have to leave their families behind. They say the song means a lot to them. It’s amazing to see how the song resonates with people from different walks of life and professions. Our journey of maturing and learning how to write better, more authentic music has been incredibly rewarding.
WITH EVERY SINGLE, THERE IS A CORRESPONDING MUSIC VIDEO. HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO YOU TO ADD THIS VISUAL LAYER TO THE SONGS? The music video for “My Worst Own Enemy” was the first time we tried something more lighthearted to match the spirit of the song. Typically, our music is pretty dark and introspective, but with this cover song, we wanted to show off more of our dorky sides, which is honestly just who we are. We take our work and music seriously but don’t take ourselves too seriously. We’re not trying to impress anyone; we’re just being ourselves.
It’s been enjoyable to show this side of us and let people see that we’re really not that cool. I think it’s valuable when artists show their normal, behind-thescenes selves.
WHAT LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT DO YOU ALL HAVE IN CREATING YOUR MUSIC VIDEOS? DO YOU ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THE CREATIVE PROCESS? Before we had a label, we spent over five years creating our own music videos. Several of us play in our church bands so we’ve always had a place to create our aesthetic by bouncing between each other’s churches using them as filming locations and DIYing everything along the way. With the backing of Fearless Records, we now have the privilege of tapping into the creativity of like-minded individuals.
When we shot the video for “What If I Fall,” we arrived at a house in Los Angeles with a pre-built set; they had catering and we were looking around like, “What is happening right now?” It was so cool to be involved in a bigger production.
I am slightly controlling when it comes to the storytelling, direction, and production; the guys in the band would probably emphasize that, but I love being involved in that aspect. I don’t think we would ever sit back and let someone else take control because that’s not how we got to where we are now; however, it’s been great to see how people who are really skilled in production, video editing, and other areas can enhance what we do as a band. We feel blessed to have such talented individuals around us.
THE VIDEO IS AN EXTENSION OF YOUR MUSIC, SO NO ONE CAN BLAME YOU FOR WANTING TO BE INVOLVED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. We’ve never waited for someone else to do it for us. Often, you hear people express how they want to start a new hobby, or career, or travel, and then they hold themselves back. It’s human nature to think, ‘I don’t want to disappoint anyone.’ But the truth is, if you have confidence in yourself, people will respond to that. So, I say take the chance. As a band, we’ve learned to lean into that way of thinking – to just go for it. It hasn’t failed us yet. We keep moving, trying new things, and embracing discomfort because that’s where growth and strength are born.
FINDING YOUR GROUP OF PEOPLE IS KEY, AND LEARNING THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO PLEASE EVERYONE IS ESSENTIAL. Yeah, I think it’s cool how much social media has evolved, especially post-Covid. Platforms like TikTok, Instagram Reels, and Facebook have really changed. Even as artists on a label, we’re hands-on with our content, creating and posting ourselves because that’s the best way to connect with people. What’s great about social media is that you don’t have to be super polished; it can be more casual, and people are realizing that overproduced content can turn people off. Hard work and good intentions can make an impact, and it’s cool to see that if you keep working at it, you’ll find your audience and grow.
MANY PEOPLE SAY IT’S AN EXCITING TIME TO BE A MUSIC FAN. WOULD YOU SAY IT’S AN EXCITING TIME TO BE A MUSICIAN ON THE FLIP SIDE? Oh yeah, definitely! There’s so much great stuff out there. Everyone is playing shows again and dropping new albums. I can’t keep up, honestly, but it’s inspiring. There are new releases to catch up on all the time, and that motivates me to keep our band in the race.
ARE THERE ANY UPCOMING SHOWS THAT FANS CAN LOOK FORWARD TO? We plan to go on tour in the fall. In the past few months, we’ve been recording some new material. I can’t say much more than that at the moment. However, with the
release of the Lit cover, it’s just a small hint of what we’ve been working on behind the scenes. Right now, we’re in a phase of balancing recording, preparing for the tour, and enjoying time at home with family. We’re keeping busy on social media by interacting with fans and having some fun, especially on Discord. It’s been a big thing lately; we’ve enjoyed getting on there with fans and just talking with people in the chat.
CONNECTING WITH FANS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA IS SO IMPORTANT WHEN YOU’RE NOT TOURING OR ABLE TO MEET IN PERSON. Yeah, there’s definitely a lot more downtime, so we have to stay busy. It’s a grind with all these TikToks, Instagram, and everything else. It’s hard work, but we know it will benefit us. Plus, our fans love it, and that makes us happy.
SOMETIMES, OUR MIND PUTS US IN A PLACE WHERE IT’S DIFFICULT TO CONNECT PERSONALLY ON THESE PLATFORMS. THE MENTAL PREPARATION TO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL SCOPE OF BEING THE LEAD SINGER IN A BAND, I’M SURE, IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE. It’s definitely like that sometimes. Just this weekend, while discussing filming plans with the band, I found myself jokingly giving up in my head. It’s just part of the process; everyone goes through that mental battle of feeling stressed and wanting to give up. Then you pause, look at the big picture, and say, ‘No, we got this.’ Life is tough, but sometimes, you have to take a step back and appreciate where you are, which can help you move forward.
INTERVIEW: Heather Koepp
PHOTOS: James Coffman
As Archetypes Collide continues to evolve and push the boundaries of their sound, it’s evident that their passion for music and commitment to authenticity remain fundamental to their creative approach. The band’s skillful reimagining of classic tracks and creation of original, deeply resonant songs uniquely position them in the rock and metal scene. With their unwavering dedication to growth and innovation, Archetypes Collide is poised to make a significant impact on the industry. We look forward to witnessing their continued journey and eagerly anticipate what they have in store for the future.
BRADEN BALES
Braden Bales, a rising talent from Toronto, has garnered swift recognition for his unique musical style that effortlessly fuses indie, pop, and alternative elements, transcending traditional genre boundaries. His breakout single, “Chronically Cautious,” struck a chord with audiences, resonating deeply with its relatable themes of anxiety and self-reflection, while subsequent tracks like “Heaven Again” and “I Write Songs About You” continued to showcase his prowess in capturing unfiltered emotions.
Braden fearlessly delves into the complexities of human experiences, a quality that truly sets him apart. He fearlessly tackles subjects often considered taboo, infusing his work with clever wordplay and metaphors that offer a fresh perspective. His recent creations, including the compelling “Cinnamon Twists,” bravely delve into personal struggles with an honesty that has become his signature. Braden remains firmly rooted in his origins, often captivating audiences through live looping, creating an immersive and spontaneous performance. Braden remains steadfast in his vision throughout his artistic journey, crafting deeply personal songs that resonate and connect with listeners through shared experiences.
YOUR RECENT MUSIC HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS CANDID AND REFLECTIVE. CAN YOU SHARE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR UPCOMING SINGLES AND YOUR SONGWRITING APPROACH? I’ve been focusing on being more open in my lyrics, even if that means addressing topics that aren’t usually discussed in songs. I have a song titled, “Semi-Platonic” that’s a ballad about a breakup, and it gets pretty real—like, I mention masturbating as a way of coping with depression. I know that might be too much information, but I believe in putting those raw, unfiltered moments into my music. It’s not just for shock value; it’s about capturing the genuine, often messy human experience. When you listen to a song that discusses something you’ve felt but maybe never heard expressed, it validates your feelings. I think that’s important—to acknowledge emotions, not just gloss over them. I really focused on what wasn’t going well in my life. I stopped on a drive from Toronto to LA, sleeping at rest stops, just trying to figure out what was bothering me. That song became my way to diagnose and scream out those frustrations. The lyrics might sound simple or even trivial—like mentioning cinnamon twists in my kitchen—but they carry the weight of my everyday struggles and the honesty of how I felt at that moment. It’s not about making things
sound perfect; it’s about letting the words carry the realness of my life.
YOU’VE BEEN TEASING A SONG ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS CALLED “CINNAMON TWISTS.” CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT THE SINGLE? “Cinnamon Twists” is my way of silencing the voice in my head. I’m my own worst enemy when it comes to negative self-talk, and I needed to put all of it into a song to take away the ammunition my mind was using against me. In the song, I talk about my struggles in the pursuit of happiness as a way to console myself. It’s a letter to myself acknowledging the struggles I’m going through while reassuring myself that it’s okay to not be okay.
WITH ALL THE INTENSE RECORDING SESSIONS YOU’VE HAD IN LOS ANGELES, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN A CONNECTION TO YOUR MUSIC WHEN YOU’RE NO LONGER THE SOLE PERSON MIXING AND PRODUCING IT? It’s been quite a shift for me. In the past, I handled everything from production to mixing and mastering my music. Now, I find myself in LA collaborating with different producers, which is an amazing experience but can also make me feel a bit disconnected. I stay
connected by focusing on the writing process and clearly communicating my vision for the song. I work closely with producers to ensure that the final product aligns with my initial vision. To maintain a personal touch, I have also started producing some of my own music again.
YOU’VE RELEASED SEVERAL SINGLES THIS YEAR. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF AN EP OR ALBUM ON THE HORIZON?
Right now, I’m focusing on singles, but I think they’ll eventually come together into an EP. Each song I write reflects a particular phase in my life, so they naturally fit into collections. I like looking back and seeing how the songs form a narrative about what I was going through at the time. It’s like a musical snapshot of my life.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF YOUR TOUR WITH GAMES WE PLAY CAME TOGETHER RATHER QUICKLY. HOW DID THIS OPPORTUNITY ARISE, AND WHAT WAS THE PROCESS BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN SO FAST? I posted a story on Instagram asking which cities I should play a headline show in this fall, and Emmyn Calleiro, the singer of Games We Play, responded, saying that a tour would be fun. I replied, “Yeah, it would be fun.”
He followed up with, “I’ve got a couple of dates in September if you want to do it. We’ve also got these Canadian shows in November. Would you want to do those with me too?” It was such a random, kind of happenstance thing that came together.
DID YOU ALREADY KNOW THE BAND BEFORE THIS OPPORTUNITY? We had mutual friends and acquaintances and had met briefly at a show in Nashville. After that, we started interacting online, commenting on each other’s posts and stuff. That’s pretty much how it all started - just meeting at a mutual friend’s show in Nashville.
THE TOUR WILL TAKE YOU TO VARIOUS PLACES ACROSS THE US AND INTO CANADA, WITH STOPS IN STATES LIKE ALABAMA, MISSOURI, INDIANA, AND NEW JERSEY, AS WELL AS QUEBEC AND ONTARIO. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT PERFORMING IN PLACES YOU MAY NOT HAVE PLAYED BEFORE? ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC STOPS YOU ARE ESPECIALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO? I’m really looking forward to the show in Quebec because my family will be there. As for the other shows, whether they’re in new cities or places I’ve been to before, I’m equally excited for each one. For me, it’s all about the human connection and interaction. As an artist whose main outlet is through the internet, I don’t get as much face-to-face interaction. I’m honestly just really looking forward to whichever show has the most people who know my music or are enthusiastic about getting to know my music. I think it’s great to visit new cities because it’s a fresh start, but revisiting cities like Indianapolis, where I did a show during the tour with Ryan Caraveo, can be a lot of fun too.
HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS TOUR WITH GAMES WE PLAY WILL DIFFER FROM YOUR PREVIOUS TOUR EXPERIENCE WITH RYAN CARAVEO? ARE THERE SPECIFIC CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU’RE PLANNING TO BRING TO YOUR PERFORMANCE THIS TIME AROUND?
The show will be different because the audience is different. Ryan Caraveo and Games We Play have vastly different music styles, while Games We Play is more of a rock artist with a live band feeling, Ryan is currently more pop but has a lot of rap history and roots. Their brands as artists are very distinct, and I feel they represent two different elements that I incorporate into my music. The main difference will be that I will be performing for an audience that is more inclined towards rock and the sound of Games We Play. Therefore, my show will reflect that kind of sound, with more live performances and upbeat songs, rather than live tracks and groove music. I aim to highlight the elements of my sound that align more with the audience I’m playing for.
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WHEN PERFORMING IN NEW CITIES, HOW DO YOU INTERACT WITH THE AUDIENCE TO MAKE EACH SHOW FEEL SPECIAL AND PERSONAL?
I don’t use a script when I perform, which is unusual. My setup involves a lot of live looping, and I handle everything on stage. Sometimes I play the drums; other times I play the keys and various other things. Some artists plan out every detail of their shows and perform the same set every time. Instead, I like to leave space between my songs to talk about them. My songs are based on my life experiences, and I enjoy sharing different perspectives and stories from my past during each performance. I can speak freely from the heart, and each show can be influenced by how I’m feeling that day. If I’m having a great day, I’ll focus on the happier aspects of my stories, but if it’s a tough day, I might share some of the sadder parts with the audience. If someone yells something, I’ll play into that. I like to have conversations with the audience. I enjoy crowd work and hanging out with everyone, creating a big group hangout instead of a set show.
Braden Bales has become a powerful force in the music industry, showcasing an unparalleled fusion of vulnerability and audacity. His relentless commitment to authentically portraying life experiences through music has firmly positioned him as a compelling voice for those who prioritize sincerity in their music. Braden’s unwavering dedication to engaging his audience through candid storytelling ensures that his music will undeniably resonate with listeners, offering solace and a profound sense of connection amidst life’s shared complexities.
INTERVIEW, PHOTOS AND WARDROBE STYLING: Heather Koepp
MEN’S GROOMING: Mx. Monroe James
BJRNCK BJRNCK
In the vibrant music landscape of Chicago, BJRNCK’s journey as an artist was undeniably shaped by her roots, deeply embedded in the city’s rich musical community and her early experiences in the church. For BJRNCK, it wasn’t just about finding her voice—it was about discovering her true self through the power of music. This connection to her upbringing is woven into her sound, creating an authentic, soulful expression that resonates deeply with her listeners. As she celebrates the release of her new track, “Espresso Martini,” BJRNCK invites us into her world—one where life’s irritations and pressures are met with a shrug and a drink in hand. The song embodies a liberating message: let go of what you can’t control, and live your life on your own terms. This mantra, as she puts it, is about embracing the freedom to enjoy life, whether it’s sipping on an espresso martini or simply doing what makes you happy.
HOW DID YOUR UPBRINGING IN CHICAGO SHAPE YOUR GROWTH AS AN ARTIST? Growing up in Chicago had a significant impact on my musical influences. I grew up in church, and that experience really shaped me. I don’t think I would have discovered my singing talent if it weren’t for the church. Chicago has a great community for music, and I’m grateful for that.
YOU’RE CELEBRATING THE RELEASE OF YOUR NEW SONG, “EXPRESSO MARTINI” WHAT INSPIRED THE TRACK?
Espresso Martini. It’s really funny because I’m not necessarily a coffee lover, but when I discovered espresso martinis, I was just drinking them literally every day. I went into the studio feeling irritated not having the greatest day, and you can almost hear it in the way the song progresses throughout the lyrics. The song is basically saying, You can’t stress about situations you don’t have control over.
People are going to be who they want to be and say whatever they want to say. So, at the end of the day, just enjoy your life and do what you want. If you want to take a drink, have an Espresso Martini, or go outside and party, just do it.
self and the behaviors I’ve learned or been taught. So, this project is really about me and my personal growth.
YOUR DEBUT ALBUM IS HIGHLY ANTICIPATED. DOES THE PROJECT DIFFER FROM YOUR PREVIOUS WORK, AND WHAT ARE YOU MOST EXCITED ABOUT WITH THIS RELEASE? This time, things will be different from my previous releases. I’ve only put out singles and individual pieces of work in the past, but now I’m creating a complete body of work. I have a lot of music from different phases of my life, and this time, it’s more genuine. I’m very involved in the writing process, and the songs are a true reflection of myself. While some songs are collaborative, many are very personal, and some are even entirely written by me.
“Espresso Martini” was written solely by me. Overall, this album feels more personal than my previous work. My earlier songs weren’t less personal, but more people were involved.
WE COULD ALL LEARN SOMETHING FROM LIVING LIFE THAT WAY. IS THERE A SPECIFIC THEME OR MESSAGE THAT CONNECTS THE NEW MUSIC YOU’VE BEEN WORKING ON? Yes, this project I’m working on is more about me and how I navigate my life. It involves my friendships relationships, and getting to know myself better. I’m figuring out what I like and don’t like, and sometimes, I realize that I’m acting in a way that doesn’t truly represent me. As I get older, I’m learning to distinguish between my true
ARE THERE ANY SONGS ON THE UPCOMING ALBUM THAT YOU CONSIDER PARTICULARLY PERSONAL OR SIGNIFICANT? IF SO, WHY? I have a song called “Therapy” with lyrics that state, “20s are rough, like, WTF. Some days I feel good, but that’s not enough.” The song talks about the challenges of being in your 20s, realizing that you might be the problem, and needing to figure out what’s wrong with yourself. It also explores the idea that your 20s are not just about partying and having fun but also about personal growth, learning about your likes and dislikes, and staying true to yourself. This period of life involves both enjoyment and personal development, helping you to discover your preferences, make decisions, and be authentic to yourself.
ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC EMOTIONS OR THOUGHTS YOU WANT THE LISTENERS TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE ALBUM? Vulnerability is a crucial aspect. This album is very vulnerable and sensitive to me as I speak my mind and tell my truth.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SONGS YOU MIGHT BE TEASING NOW? I have been previewing a couple of songs on social media. One is called “A Girl Like Me,” and the other is “Coming Home.” I love both of these songs. “Coming Home” is pretty old. I wrote it about three years ago, and I’ve been fighting to release it ever since. Finally, I get to put it out. “A Girl Like Me” is a more recent song that I got to write with all of my friends. Writing with friends who don’t usually write music was so much fun. I love bringing in people who don’t typically do music, especially my girlfriends because it’s like, “Am I the only one going through this?” And they’ll say, “No Bitch, I feel the same way too!” So, I love involving my friends in my creative process.
THAT IS TRULY UNIQUE! GAINING INSPIRATION FROM AN EXTERNAL PERSPECTIVE CAN BRING A NEW DIMENSION TO THE PROJECT AND WHO BETTER TO ASK THAN YOUR CLOSEST FRIENDS? I make music for girls, the ones I hang out with, and girls in general. I make music for everyone. But to ensure that I’m expressing the right emotions, not just mine, but also acknowledging that others may be going through the same thing, I talk about it in my music.
HAVE YOU COLLABORATED WITH ANY NEW PRODUCERS, SONGWRITERS, OR FEATURED ARTISTS FOR THIS UPCOMING PROJECT? I’ve worked with Tiggy London and Kevo on the track. Additionally, Pusha Rod Dash and Jay Hill have been overseeing and guiding me in my creative process, helping me organize my thoughts.
WHEN COLLABORATING WITH OTHER ARTISTS, WHAT FACTORS DO YOU CONSIDER TO ENSURE THE PARTNERSHIP WILL BE A GOOD FIT? When a song is good, it resonates with me. That’s all that really matters. When you hear a song and think, “Oh, I want to be a part of this,” then you know it’s something special. I recently collaborated on a song with someone I only knew through Instagram. It’s funny how the song was sent to me not by her but through someone else. I felt such a solid connection to the music that I just had to be a part of it. It’s so “me,” and I can relate to it. Now we’re even planning to go out for a meal together, which is something we had yet to do before despite following each other on Instagram. This collaboration has brought us closer.
IF YOU COULD COLLABORATE WITH ANY ARTIST, PAST OR PRESENT, WHO WOULD IT BE, AND WHY?
That’s a good question. Presently, I really love Money Long. She’s actually one of my friends, and she’s excellent. She’s just so good with her writing skills. Her approach to music and singing is nostalgic, which I also bring to the table. We would create great music together. As for who else? Frank Ocean and PartyNextDoor. I always draw close to writers because I’m a writer myself. So when I hear people writing music in a certain way, even if they might not be the greatest singers, the way they tell a story is amazing.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WRITING?
I started writing when I was about 16 years old. At 13, I had been recording music, but at 16, I remember being locked in a room and told, “You cannot come out until you write this song by yourself because I know you can do it.” Now, in the last two or three years, I’ve mastered the ability to write a whole song by myself.
HAVING THAT KIND OF DISCIPLINE FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE IS IMPRESSIVE. IT MUST BE INCREDIBLY REWARDING TO SEE YOUR JOURNEY REACH THIS POINT. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE CALLED THE “IT GIRL” OF R&B?
I believe that being considered the “It Girl” carries a lot of responsibility. I’m not the only one in this position; I’m representing many other girls who aspire to be like me. Everyone has a bit of the “It Girl” in them, and it’s about nurturing that and blossoming into your true self. It’s a big responsibility, but I enjoy inspiring other young women and being a leader. When I do more
interviews and people really get to know the things I’ve gone through and been through in my life and just how I’ve gotten to where I am now, I think there will be many others who can relate. I’m not the cookie-cutter type. My life wasn’t all peachy cream; it didn’t happen overnight and wasn’t easy. I believe many young girls can relate to that in any instance, in whatever career they choose. Life is challenging, especially for a young woman.
HOW HAS YOUR LIFE CHANGED SINCE YOU SIGNED WITH GEFFEN RECORDS?
Since signing with Geffen, I’ve noticed a significant boost in my confidence. Prior to signing, I went through a rough year where projects didn’t get released, previous signings didn’t pan out, and I lost belief in myself. It felt like I had lost touch with the “It Girl”I once was. However, after signing with Geffen and realizing that I have so much control over my and artistic direction, I feel like I’ve team that truly believes in me wants to support and develop my authentic self, rather than molding me into something I’m not. They see potential in me that I don’t always recognize, and their belief in me provides a constant
WE ALL NEED A SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY AROUND US; IT’S VERY IMPORTANT. DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR MUSIC VIDEOS OR VISUAL PROJECTS TO ACCOMPANY YOUR NEW
I love doing music videos and want to create a few visualizers. I’m currently focusing on the content and refining it. I can’t share too many details as it’s still a work in progress, but my goal is to build a world with this project. It would be great if everything, the visualizers and the videos, were interconnected. I enjoy it when things are connected and fans notice the details. For example, when they see me wearing the same shirt in different videos and realize the connections. So, I’d love to do that.
DO YOU HAVE ANY LIVE PERFORMANCES OR TOURS PLANNED FOR THE ALBUM RELEASE?
Yes, that’s something I love doing. I enjoy doing live breakdowns of my songs, bringing in a full band, and performing in unique, unexpected locations. I like making things that don’t usually go together, go together. I will definitely be doing live versions of my songs and plan to release a live version of “Espresso Martini” soon. It’s important to showcase my singing abilities.
YOU SEEM EAGER TO GET OUT THERE AND PERFORM!
I absolutely love performing and singing live. It’s very different from singing in the studio. If you’ve only sung live, you’ll need to learn studio singing. Similarly, if you’re used to the studio, you’ll have to adapt to singing live. However, being able to do both is a valuable skill. I’ve had a lot of artist development experience, recording since I was 13 and singing in choirs since I was 10. I consider these experiences to be my superpowers.
WHAT IS ONE THING YOU WANT YOUR FANS TO KNOW ABOUT YOU, YOUR UPCOMING MUSIC, AND YOUR FUTURE GOALS AND PLANS?
I think you’re aware that people are eagerly anticipating my next moves, especially if you’ve checked out my Instagram comments. I want to assure you that I’m carefully planning and gathering everything I need so that when I do start sharing, it will be consistent and not stopand-go. I aim to show all aspects of myself in a sequence and in a timely manner. Timing is crucial, but one thing is for sureyou’ll be seeing a lot more of me.
INTERVIEW AND PHOTOS: Heather Koepp, WARDROBE STYLING & CREATIVE DIRECTOR: Oththan Burnside HAIR STYLIST: Keera Griffin , MAKEUP ARTIST: Nelly Santiago
BJRNCK’s journey is far from over, and with her debut album lurking in the shadows, she invites her audience to join her in a space of vulnerability, honesty, and celebration. Through her music, she not only shares her truth but also creates a soundtrack for others navigating their own paths. As BJRNCK continues to explore new depths in her sound and storytelling, one thing remains clear: her music is a powerful, personal declaration of who she is and who she’s becoming—a reminder for all of us to embrace our true selves, live boldly, and find joy in every moment. As BJRNCK steps into this new era, her music is a reminder that, amid all the chaos, the most important thing is to stay true to yourself and savor the moments that make life worth living.
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In the sprawling, sun-soaked city of Los Angeles, Sueco’s venture into the music industry reflects the city’s diverse and vibrant nature. His musical journey began in the peaceful streets of Pasadena, where an unconventional introduction to music through the video game Rock Band sparked his passion. From drumming in church and local hardcore bands, Sueco’s path has evolved into creating viral hits that captivate global audiences. This interview provides an intimate glimpse into Sueco’s early life, the influences that have shaped his unique sound, and the exciting new musical chapter he’s crafting as an independent artist.
CAN YOU SHARE SOME DETAILS ABOUT YOUR EARLY LIFE IN LOS ANGELES AND HOW YOU FIRST BECAME INTERESTED IN MUSIC?
I grew up in Pasadena. I started playing the drums because my dad gave me the game Rock Band for Christmas one year. I consistently hit 100% on the drums in the game, which helped me get familiar with the drum rhythm. Sitting at a drum set made it feel like I knew how to play. I started playing in the church band, then moved on to hardcore bands. After that, I joined the jazz band at school and later the marching band. My dad, a guitarist and a church leader, taught me how to play the guitar, and I started writing songs on it. Initially, I was the drummer for local hardcore bands, but eventually, I said, ’Fuck this, I want to be the screamer,’ and so I learned how to do that too.
WHAT WAS THE INSPIRATION BEHIND YOUR FIRST VIRAL HIT, “FAST”? DID YOU ANTICIPATE IT BECOMING SUCH A SENSATION ON TIKTOK? At that time, I was already producing music for other rappers and gaining popularity for making beats on Instagram using unusual sounds. During this time, one of our friends, involved in the marijuana business in California, invited us to their place, and I started working in that industry for a while. Working as a grunt in the trap factory, I didn’t mind it. Everything was moving fast, and none of it was mine. But as a clueless 21-year-old, it was a crazy experience. After a night out, we returned to the garage of my dad’s place where I was living. I had been producing beats on a worn-out laptop. One of my friends overheard what was coming from my broken headphones, and we jumped into an hour-long writing session fueled by 7-11 wine and Black and Milds. I recorded “Fast,” which was maybe the fourth or fifth rap song I recorded during that time, but that song changed my life. I had been making beats for years at that point, but I never saw myself as a rapper. I thought my future was in music production.
HOW DID YOU TRANSITION FROM WORKING WITH A MAJOR LABEL TO BEING FULLY INDEPENDENT? I mean, in a sense, it can be a little scary because when you’re independent, it’s in your own hands, right? There’s no safety net, but at the very least, you can hold yourself accountable for your success or failure. Nowadays, artists or their teams pretty much handle everything themselves, so labels aren’t really necessary anymore.
MANY ARTISTS CHOOSE INDEPENDENCE OVER RECORD DEALS BECAUSE OF THEIR ABILITY TO SELF-PROMOTE. DO YOU FEEL THAT CREATING SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT COMES NATURALLY TO YOU, OR WAS IT SOMETHING YOU HAD TO LEARN? Back in 2017-2018, many of my friends and I were YouTubers. I would occasionally appear in their videos. My first viral video came about because of my friend Lamont Holt. I was producing for him in the back of my dad’s garage. I was dead broke, and I asked him if he could help me sell some beats because I needed to make some money. He suggested creating a challenge video: I would make a beat in five minutes; otherwise, I would get tased. After posting the video on meme pages and DMing most of them, I sold a few beats. Overnight, I gained around three or four thousand followers, and that’s when I realized that this was what I had to do. It was a bit of a learning curve, but I figured it out. I had friends already doing that, at least in long-form, because it was YouTube, right? So it’s just like, how do we do a YouTube video in 60 seconds?
SPEAKING OF MUSIC VIDEOS, THE RECENTLY RELEASED “OUTTA MY HEAD” VIDEO RECEIVED AN IMPRESSIVE VIEWERSHIP RESPONSE. HOW DID YOU DEVELOP ITS CONCEPT? WERE YOU HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS? I’ve been constantly on the road over the past two years, rarely back home in LA. We went on four major tours, with around 100 headline shows in 11 or 12 months. I was recording demos and getting inspiration from seeing different parts of the world. When I finally returned to LA after the last tour, I went to my dad’s house and sat in the garage, where it all began for me. That’s where I started making music. It reminded me of when I was a kid discovering music and feeling the dream and the hunger. I set up a small studio and spent two weeks going through about 200 demos. I spent a lot of time in my dad’s garage, sorting through my belongings like a Frankenstein, picking out the best parts of different songs, and writing and recording new ideas as they came to me. This process ended up forming the backbone or foundation of this album. When it came time to making the video for “Outta My Head” the story revolved around everything happening in this garage because that’s where the album idea was born. We filmed music videos and flash visualizers for every song on the album. We have 11 more music videos that will be released simultaneously.
YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PLANNING ATTEMPTED LOVER FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, AND IT WAS PIECED TOGETHER LIKE FRANKENSTEIN’S MONSTER. DO YOU FEEL THAT IT EMBODIES A SPECIFIC THEME OR CONCEPT? It’s not like a concept album with a storyline, dialogues in between, or anything like a musical. These songs are the best and most impactful ones I’ve created over time. What story does this tell? I didn’t think about it initially, but looking at it afterwards, I noticed the themes in the songs. The name Attempted Lover even came from this search for genuine love that lasts; everyone wants that, don’t they? Then there’s the yearning and longing for something more significant, the frustration of not finding it, and the hope that it’s out there somewhere – maybe with her. But I believe that feeling is out there and waiting for me.
DO YOU THINK THIS ALBUM HAS A SIMILAR SOUND, OR DO YOU CONSIDER IT A MIX OF GENRES?
They consist of more acoustic, heavier, and electronic elements that all work together like a married couple.
YOU COLLABORATED WITH MULTIPLE CONTRIBUTORS ON THIS ALBUM, INCLUDING COLIN BRITTAIN. HOW SIGNIFICANTLY DID THEIR DIRECTION INFLUENCE THIS ALBUM? Colin is the executive producer. I handle everything myself and finalize everything with Colin. Songs can be created anywhere, like on the tour bus, in my room alone, or with some of my friends. Songs come from wherever inspiration strikes, and then we finalize them. It’s all me, and sometimes my friend Dwilly, locked in a room for 12 hours straight, obsessing over the guitar and chorus. Thanks to my friends and collaborators like Colin and Dwilly, they are essential to my music; I wouldn’t have that sound without them.
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WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST FULFILLING PART OF CREATING THIS ALBUM, AND HOW DOES IT REFLECT YOUR GROWTH AS AN ARTIST? I was excited to release our music finally. I had a lot of issues with the record label, and I was grateful to become independent. Dealing with creative problems and getting songs released was hard. I was really stressed because we had finished the album, but I didn’t know if it would actually be released. It was frustrating to be almost done with the album but not knowing when it would come out. So, being able to become independent and say, “It’s done, I’m putting it out,” was a huge relief for me. they are essential to my music; I wouldn’t have that sound without them.
HAVING CONTROL OVER YOUR CREATIVE PROCESS IS HOW YOU BEGIN. IT FEELS UNNATURAL TO INVOLVE OTHERS UNLESS YOU CHOOSE TO. This is my evolution, the evolution of my artistry. I spent a lot of time figuring out how to take the sound from my last album and make it even better. I asked myself, “What more can I do? What haven’t I done that I can do while still maintaining my signature sound?” It’s been a journey of exploration. That’s why this album has some acoustic tracks, some with a full band, and some more electronic ones. It’s been a learning process for me.
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR PROMOTING THE ALBUM? I REMEMBER YOU MENTIONED HAVING 11 MUSIC VIDEOS, WHICH MEANS THERE WILL BE A VIDEO FOR EVERY SONG ON THE ALBUM. Every song is a video; I’m just dropping them all simultaneously.
THAT’S SO UNHEARD OF. I LOVE IT
It was not easy, but yeah, the kind of thing that I’m learning now is mainly because of the internet. Like, dude, just put it out. You can promote that shit when it’s out.
THERE’S NO REASON TO WAIT.
There’s no reason to wait! If you don’t, then you lose the idea. Just put the work out there and post it. Hopefully, people will like it. We’ll see and keep going. I feel like the idea of holding off and trying to build and build and build can get boring. I want to keep putting work out. When you release something, it’s no longer just yours; it belongs to the world. So that’s when you let go.
DO YOU EVER CHECK THE COMMENTS ONCE SOMETHING IS RELEASED TO SEE IF IT’S GETTING GOOD OR BAD REVIEWS? IF IT’S GETTING BAD REVIEWS, DO YOU TAKE IT TO HEART OR TRY TO SHUT IT OUT? I believe a healthy approach involves understanding that not everything is for everyone, and that’s okay. We can’t predict what will happen and are constantly learning and growing. It’s good to consider what others think, but it shouldn’t be the only factor. Sometimes, people don’t know what they want at first but love it once they see someone else enjoying it.
YOU SEEM TO HAVE A GOOD BALANCE AND A STRONG SUPPORT SYSTEM TO KEEP YOU GROUNDED AND NOT WORRY ABOUT EXTERNAL PRESSURES. MANY PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE OF THE EFFORT THAT GOES INTO CREATING ART AND HOW MUCH THOUGHT THE ARTIST PUTS INTO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL. You’ve put your heart and soul into it, and now it’s on display for the world.
SUECO
His unwavering commitment to authenticity marks Sueco’s impact on the music industry. His artistic evolution encompasses musical growth and underscores the importance of creative freedom and self-expression. With the recent release of Attempted Lover and its corresponding music videos, Sueco aims to unveil the depth of his artistic vision. His journey is a testament to the resilience and enthusiasm required to pursue one’s aspirations. Moving forward, fans can anticipate more groundbreaking music accompanied by the same unfiltered honesty that has been a defining feature of his work.
PHOTOS AND INTERVIEW: Heather
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WHAT SIGNIFICANCE DOES THE NAME “THE BARBARIANS OF CALIFORNIA” HOLD FOR YOU, AND HOW DID YOU DEVELOP IT?
AARON: The name Eric used to have, which I liked more, was already used by someone else in Milwaukee. I won’t say the name, but I really liked it and shared it with everyone, only to find out it was already taken. We tried to buy the name, but they said no, so we had to rethink our options. As California natives immersed in the underground skating scene, we wanted to evoke that early skater scene, misfit camaraderie.
ERIC: We were both born and raised in California, so our upbringing in the state played a big part in shaping who we are. My grandparents took great pride in moving to California, and that sense of pride rubbed off on me as well. Like Aaron mentioned, we both grew up immersed in the skateboard culture. While we may not have been great skateboarders, we loved it, and that was my introduction to music. A lot of my musical inspiration came from the punk bands advertised in the back of Thrasher Magazine.
IT’S AN HOMAGE TO THAT LIFESTYLE.
AARON: I’m a big believer in “if you build it, they will come” - Costner, right? We want to express ourselves and have fun.
HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR TIME BETWEEN YOUR VARIOUS MUSICAL PROJECTS AND YOUR PERSONAL LIFE?
AARON: It’s really fun because it’s so lighthearted. There’s a certain kind of freedom to be able to do this. It doesn’t matter if I put on a ridiculous jacket or use some random lyrics. There’s a contrast between AWOLNATION, which has a certain kind of responsibility, and Barbarians, which does not. Many of our fans have said we should form a metal band or something really heavy because we both lean that way.
As for our personal lives, I don’t know - we’re both dads. It’s an insane thing to do at our age.
ERIC: We were working on two records at the same time. Aaron was working on an AWOLNATION record and the Barbarians record simultaneously, so there were days when I’d show up at the studio, not knowing which record we would work on. Aaron would come in and lay down whatever was in his head that day. He said it helped him to have this outlet to explore different ideas for each record. It’s all about finding a good balance, and it’s exciting not knowing what comes next. I didn’t think I would play music again. I’ve been very happy being on the studio side of things, so whatever comes of this – if we play one or ten shows – it’s all fun.
WHAT MAIN MESSAGES DO YOU HOPE TO CONVEY THROUGH YOUR MUSIC?
AARON: I guess if there were one message, it would be to simply always question authority. I believe that we have become complacent in trusting that others have our best interests at heart, regardless of which side we’re on. When I was in college at Moorpark College, I only attended for one semester. I remember walking out of class to surf or play music after an instructor walked in and said, “Always question authority.” That statement really resonated with me. I’ve never been one to trust people, especially those in positions of authority. Even in high school, teachers would tell us, “This is how life works; accept it,” I would always wonder, “How do you know?” I believe it’s important to challenge the status quo and question things.
But honestly, Barbarians isn’t focused on sharing a message or on a mission to change the world. I’m playing a character—a sarcastic, frustrated person in this world. I love the Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, and different metal bands. I’ve always found a little bit of humor in heavy music. Heavy music is so serious that if you could find little pockets to make fun of yourself, first and foremost, I think that people could relate to that
in a lot of ways. I think the last person you should ask about what’s happening in the world is a musician. Just because people like some of my music doesn’t mean I know anything.
ERIC: I’d say that one symptom of current metal is that it’s too perfect. We love the idea of controlled chaos, finding a balance between making it sound big and effective, but still having a little wild and different edge. I think the interplay of the lyrics, being very sarcastic, also reinforces that idea. Working together over the last 12 or 13 years, this was just a natural extension of what we had already started. We were at a point where we finished each other’s sentences in the studio. I’ve had the ability to weasel my way into a new pocket of his world, and this is the result.
AARON: This is the easiest music I’ve ever made in my life. When I first heard Eric’s recordings, I thought, “Wow, this sounds how I always wanted my heavy music to sound.” We couldn’t do this in 1998. We didn’t have the technology, wisdom, ability, or budget. Now, you can make a good-sounding record in your bedroom, and that’s exactly what we did. When our studio burned down during the recording of one of the AWOL records, we made it in my bedroom, and the sound didn’t suffer because we didn’t have a nice studio. The reason I wanted to do this is simply because it can sound good now. It’s a level playing field because you don’t have to be a millionaire to make a good-sounding record. There’s some great music coming from the underground. It’s an equal opportunity.
ERIC: When we were younger, there would be a handful of tastemakers who would give you the thumbs up or thumbs down if you were going to have a career. There are still some very powerful people today, but way fewer than before, and there’s no one media outlet or radio station that’s going to make or break your career; music lovers have the power now. They are the ones making decisions now, more so than the gatekeepers, and I see that as a great thing. We are constantly coming across songs with 50 million plays on Spotify by artists we’ve never heard of before. It’s a wild time to be a musician. It’s crazy to fast forward in time and parachute into this world where you can put out a song and get immediate feedback.
THE PLAYING FIELDS ARE NOW LEVEL. EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND A CHANCE. IT’S A FANTASTIC TIME TO BE A MUSIC FAN. HOW DO YOU HANDLE CRITICISM AND FEEDBACK ON YOUR MUSIC?
AARON: I walked away from worrying about criticism many years ago. I don’t know if I isolate myself from it, but I try not to look at too many comments because you could lose your mind. On the other hand, receiving too much praise can also have a negative impact. Personally, I don’t pay much attention to feedback either way.
ERIC: I’m going to get a kick out of it in many ways, but if someone makes a good critique, that’d be cool, too. We’re not basing the rest of our lives on the success of this project.
THE UPCOMING ALBUM WILL INCLUDE SOME COLLABORATIONS, SUCH AS A TRACK WITH DARYL TAPPERSKY. HOW DID THAT COLLABORATION COME ABOUT?
AARON: In the ‘90s, during the Insurgence days, my band had the opportunity to open for Snapcase, Earth Crisis, and Strife at The Showcase Theater in Corona. This event was known as the California Takeover, and it was a major Victory Records show. We formed a friendship with the members of Snapcase, who were from Buffalo. They were, and still are, considered hardcore royalty. We were thrilled that they wanted to play basketball with us while they were in town. We even introduced them to Jamba Juice, as they didn’t have it on the East Coast. We spent a lot of time hanging out together. I remained friends with Daryl because AWOLNATION would tour in Buffalo, and we would meet up, and he’d come to the shows. So when we had this new project, I called Daryl and asked if I could send him some songs for my thrash project. He said he loved them and immediately agreed to sing on a track. It was as simple as that. We’re honored to have him. The 16-year-old hardcore teen in me is freaking out inside because he’s on it. Rick Rodney from Strife is also involved. We’re lucky to have Tim McIlrath from Rise Against on this project; his voice sounds totally appropriate for it. I also want to shout out to Matt Pinfield, who was going to sing on the record, but our timing didn’t work out. But to even have someone like Matt’s blessing is unbelievable.
ERIC: This project is fun enough, but bringing in people we’ve respected for years makes it much more enjoyable and elevates the experience.
AARON: So far, the best part of this project has been that all the musicians I know, love, and respect have texted me, asking how they can be involved.
COLLABORATION HAS BEEN PIVOTAL IN CREATING THE BARBARIANS OF CALIFORNIA. WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED MAKING MUSIC, DID YOU ALWAYS FEEL A STRONG NEED FOR A MUSICAL COMMUNITY?
AARON: Learning from other songwriters is important in the beginning, even if you disagree with their ideas. It’s valuable to be able to communicate effectively. Eric, as an engineer, also emphasizes the importance of communication. He has worked with a wide variety of people in the studio, including some who are rude and some who are cool. Despite this, he remains even-tempered, which I appreciate in our working relationship with AWOL. I need someone level-headed, the opposite of me.
As a singer and lyricist, I tend to be a bit bipolar at times, artistically and emotionally, so I think it’s important to learn how to work with people who can create a healthy balance. It’s important to be open to how other people create and willing to learn from them. That being said, it’s also important to not collaborate at all. It’s important to be able to do your own thing and feel confident enough that you know what you’re creating is good or bad and when it’s time to move on. I can say that I’m pretty good at hating on my own music, and that’s important, too.
ERIC: One crucial aspect of our collaboration is that, while working in my studio, I never know when a piece of work is complete. Having no set timeline made it tricky. Things changed when we decided to release an album. Aaron’s confidence in his musical abilities is inspiring. He could take eight ideas, choose the best five, organize them, and confidently declare that the work is done. This confidence has also inspired me to trust myself. It’s important to finish things. Aaron is great at inspiring confidence in the rest of us. I think Zach and Isaac would agree that someone has to take the lead and bring it to the finish line.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER THIS ALBUM DONE? IF SO, DO YOU HAVE A TITLE AND ANTICIPATED RELEASE DATE YET?
AARON: The album is called, ‘And Now I’m Just Gnashing My Teeth’ and will be out on October 4th.
ERIC: Aaron and I love fall. Yeah, we’re huge fans of fall.
AARON: Halloween time. Our birthdays are two days apart.
ERIC: We love Halloween. Football starts.
AARON: The waves start to get really good for me.
ERIC: We’re fading into Thanksgiving and Christmas. The weather’s cooling down.
AARON: The Barbarians of California album and the next AWOLNATION album were released at very similar times, and emotionally, it feels like a double album to me. Not to take away from what the Barbarians are or what AWOL is, but they feel like necessary, twisted cousins, and I don’t think one would have existed without the other at this point in my life.
WILL THERE BE ANY LIVE PERFORMANCES ONCE THE ALBUM IS RELEASED?
ERIC: Our album release show will be at the Troubadour on October 19th. It’s my favorite venue in Los Angeles.
HOW DO YOU SEE THE BAND EVOLVING IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS?
AARON: The best thing about this project is that we have no idea.
ERIC: I’ve never thought about what I’ll be doing at 35, at 40, or any other age in my life.
AARON: I feel confident the live show will be good, and I say that only because the musicians we play with are so good. I don’t know if we’ll rise the ranks and be in a cool position to play at one of the Wilmer festivals or something. I hope we are, that’d be great. Or, if we have just this one Troubadour show in the middle of October. There’s a mystery in the unknown, and we just want to play a killer show for all our friends.
INTERVIEW AND PHOTOS: Heather Koepp
As we conclude the interview, it’s evident that Aaron Bruno and Eric Stenman share a unique bond that transcends mere collaboration. Their journey, rooted in a shared love for punk and metal, has evolved into a dynamic and creative partnership that fuels their music. Aaron’s insistence on questioning authority and finding humor in the seriousness of heavy music, combined with Eric’s pursuit of controlled chaos and authenticity, creates a refreshing and impactful sound. From recording in makeshift studios to navigating the level playing field of modern music distribution, they highlight the importance of community, collaboration, and continuous learning. As they prepare to release their debut album, And Now I’m Just Gnashing My Teeth fans can look forward to a project that embodies their collective experiences and musical evolution.
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The production value was top-notch, with impressive lighting and pyrotechnics enhancing the overall experience. The crowd’s energy was relentless, with mosh pits and surfboard crowd surfing, a classic scene to witness at any ADTR show.
The concert was a testament to the enduring appeal of A Day to Remember and the vibrant heavy rock scene. With stellar performances from Four Year Strong and The Story So Far, the night was a celebration of high-energy music and shared passion. Fans left the venue with hoarse voices and buzzing euphoria, a clear indication of a successful
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Ryan Woods’ musical journey is defined by self-discovery, resilience, and an unyielding passion for connection. Growing up, Ryan found himself captivated by the power of music as a means of expression and comfort, especially during challenging times. With a background that includes everything from performing at local events to posting covers on social media, Ryan’s path to recognition has been anything but conventional. What started as a hobby quickly became a calling, leading him to find his voice as a performer and a songwriter who delves deep into the human experience. In this interview, we explore how Ryan’s early influences, navigating the ever-changing digital landscape, and transitioning from covering songs to creating his own original music have all contributed to his unique sound and artistic identity.
GROWING UP, YOU HAD A DIVERSE MUSICAL UPBRINGING, SUCH AS SINGING IN THE CHURCH CHOIR. HOW DID THESE EARLY EXPERIENCES SHAPE YOUR MUSICAL IDENTITY? I have always enjoyed entertaining people and getting attention. When I was young, I was smaller than most of my peers, so I was only good at sports until a certain age; that’s when music took a front seat in my life. I felt like it gave me value. My family has a lot of generational trauma, and I think I have always looked for ways to ease other people’s pain or stress. I could always sense when my mom was having a tough day. I guess you could say I have empathic qualities, but it’s like a two-way street where I feel that serving and helping to distract someone from something painful also helped me find my purpose.
YOUR MUSIC INITIALLY GAINED RECOGNITION BY POSTING COVERS ON SOCIAL PLATFORMS. CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT HOW YOU CHOSE WHICH SONGS TO COVER AND WHAT YOU ENJOYED MOST ABOUT SHARING YOUR MUSIC IN THAT FORMAT? I stumbled upon a community of Instagram singers who were posting covers and aspiring to make it in the music industry. It was a competitive environment, but more so in a way that inspired us to put our own spin on songs and be inspired by others’ covers. When choosing which songs to cover, I had three criteria.
First, I paid attention to what was trending at the time, such as the popular songs by artists like Billie Eilish. Second, I covered songs that I personally liked. Lastly, I aimed to create content that resonated with my audience, often covering songs by boy bands like One Direction and smaller bands like Why Don’t We? I tried to cover artists who weren’t too big, hoping they would see my cover and be willing to repost it. I also became good at using hashtags that would attract their fans, and a few times, it led to a snowball effect. That’s how social media used to work; there weren’t algorithms, and the strategies have changed dramatically. It used to feel much more organic, but now it’s more like a game hoping to land a lucky break.
to get my creativity flowing. He mentioned that I didn’t have to finish them; it was just about exercising my creative muscles. So, I did that and wrote about 100 songs before I even considered releasing anything.
HOW HAVE YOU NAVIGATED THAT CHANGE? I find the concept strange. It’s the most challenging part of my job. Many strategies feel manipulative, and I dislike that. Having a hook in my videos is necessary but feels insincere. I prefer to be discovered naturally. I’m not against social media, but finding my rhythm has been challenging. My goal is to keep creating the best music and hope it reaches those who need it most.
HOW DID YOU TRANSITION FROM DOING COVERS TO WRITING AND RELEASING YOUR ORIGINAL MUSIC? I had been making a lot of live streams that were gaining traction, and Joe, who is my manager now, found me and reached out to see if I had a team. In the past, several people had approached me, offering to represent me, but I had always been skeptical about their offers. When Joe contacted me and asked if we could have a phone call, I initially didn’t reply. However, he kept emailing me, probably around ten times, before I finally apologized and hopped on a call with him. He explained the current layout of the music industry and where I fit into it. After a few more calls, I decided to partner up with him, and one of the first things he asked me was if I could write songs. I admitted that I had never finished anything and wasn’t very confident in that area yet. He challenged me to write one song a week for a couple of months
After that, I had some recording sessions. I went to Nashville and Los Angeles and worked in a studio for the first few times, which was very exciting. I slowly gathered enough demos that I thought were good enough to release and started pitching them to labels. I first wrote “Bad Texter,” and that went well. Then, I got my first small record deal, which wasn’t a super high commitment and didn’t require me to pay out of pocket for things like videos. We started rolling out singles, then an EP, and then we went on tour. Now, I’m in phase two, being cautious not to make the wrong move and take my time. I finally feel like I have the right team around me, and I am proud of the music.
WOULD YOU SAY “GARDEN” IS THE BEGINNING OF THIS NEW CHAPTER? DID THIS SONG COME TOGETHER QUICKLY, OR DID IT EVOLVE WITH TIME? I grew up in a religious bubble, and in many ways, I’m thankful for that as I think it gave me some perspective of the world and other cultures; however, it made me curious about what’s beyond that. I was very much that pure little Christian boy who always wanted to do the right thing and help people until one day, it all blew up in my face and popped my bubble. I had that moment where I discovered that evil exists in this world, and it sent me on this whole journey of spirituality and existential wandering.
It was a very rude awakening and sent me into a mental health crusade that took years of slowly starting to feel more and more like myself again. So, “Garden” was the beginning of that rebirth. I found ways to rediscover myself and find wonder in life again. I learned to be strong and protect what I value: joy, love, and peace as a human. Many outside factors try to interrupt these aspects of your life. I went from being a whimsical and pure child to hating the world overnight. Finding my ability to be that person again was really beautiful, and I wanted to share that with others.
HOW DO YOU INCORPORATE THESE EMOTIONS AND SIGNIFICANT LIFE TRANSITIONS INTO YOUR MUSIC AND SONGWRITING? I write my songs to reflect my journey and aim to create productive music. While there is a lot of melancholy music out there, when I write a sad song, I try to infuse it with a bit of wisdom or positivity. For example, in my song “The Breakup Phase,” which is about detaching your life from someone else’s after a breakup, I try to convey a sense of hope even though it’s a sad song. I want to acknowledge the situation’s difficulty while emphasizing that we will be okay and move on.
HOW HAVE FANS RESPONDED TO THIS NEW CHAPTER OF MUSIC? I think they’ve been enjoying it. I’ve been very vocal about the why’s and how’s behind the songs, my personal journey, navigating the music industry, overcoming obstacles, and being thankful for missed opportunities. Seeing familiar faces commenting on my posts from over four years ago has been a surreal feeling. Going back to social media, I feel better at connecting with fans in a live setting. Live streaming has always been the best way for me to be unfiltered and show my true self to others. I enjoy the connection with my fans; it’s like a collection of outcasts and people who may not have the most secure place in their lives.
ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR THEMES OR STORIES YOU’RE EXCITED TO EXPLORE IN YOUR MUSIC? In the past few years, I’ve dedicated a significant amount of time to understanding what truly matters to me. On a musical level, I’m delving into the shift into adulthood and the evolving meanings of concepts like love. I wanted the first song on the record to set the foundation for the rest of the album in terms of style and theme. I started writing more love songs, one of which is called “Consideration.” This song touches on the theme of wanting to be noticed by a love interest and asking them to consider the possibility of a romantic relationship. I feel that it’s a more mature take on love, expressing vulnerability and a desire for the other person to acknowledge and respond to those feelings.
Another song on the project is titled “Too Many Ways to Live,” it starts with the lines: “I could be a preacher standing on a mountaintop. I could be a teacher, but I don’t read a lot. I could be a real good guy. Maybe have a bad side, giving people weird vibes. I could find love if I really wanted to, but what’s love when nobody ever tells the truth?”
These lyrics convey an almost anxious spiral of questioning: “Who am I? What do I want to do? What’s meant for me? What’s not? What’s my purpose?” It reflects the anxiety of realizing one’s human potential and not knowing how to fulfill it. This curiosity fuels my music, inspiring a spirit of exploration, openness to learning, and embracing mistakes.
There’s also a track that’s coming out called “Gun in the Glovebox,” which delves into the theme of young love and the early stages of getting to know someone better.
When I was young, I was advised not to snoop in people’s glove boxes because they might hide things you’re not supposed to find, so I internalized that idea. At the time, I was dating a girl who came from a very different background and had different perspectives on the world than I did. Despite our differences, there was something beautiful about our mutual innocence, or perhaps it was willing ignorance. She really wanted to get to know methe good, the bad, the ugly, everything. I struggled with confidence because I didn’t have the proudest upbringing, and all I could think was, “Yo, I don’t know if you want to see all this.”
LOOKING AHEAD TO THE FUTURE, WHAT ARE YOUR ASPIRATIONS FOR YOUR MUSIC AND CAREER? ARE THERE ANY NEW GENRES OR STYLES YOU’RE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING? For starters, I want to focus on developing my own artistic project and reaching my full potential in that area. However, I am also interested in expanding my skills by writing and producing for other artists. I’d love to compose music for films. My background in classical band and orchestra has given me a love for composing, especially for strings. I am a big fan of John Williams. Growing up in Orlando, right next door to Disney, I have always loved everything related to Disney. Their soundtracks are so magical and inspiring. I believe that the layers in their music come through in my own music, too, giving it a dream-like quality. I am passionate about sound design, scoring for movies, and writing songs for films and TV. Ultimately, my dream is to succeed in the music industry and maybe even win a Grammy one day. I always say, “I’m shooting for Pluto, but if we land on the moon, at least we got off Earth.”
Ryan Woods has established a unique presence in the music industry, characterized by a commitment to authenticity and a strong bond with his fans. His music combines vulnerability, hope, and self-reflection, striking a chord with audiences on their own paths. As he grows both personally and artistically, Ryan remains dedicated to creating music that not only entertains but also comforts and motivates. In the future, Ryan Woods will continue to use his music as a powerful medium for connecting with others and telling meaningful stories, leaving a lasting impression on all who listen.
INTEREVIEW AND PHOTOS: Heather Koepp
TAYLOR ACORN
Taylor Acorn is an artist who has made her mark through authentic storytelling and a sound that resonates deeply with listeners. With singles like “High Horse” and “People Watching,” she has captured the attention of many and is now on the verge of releasing her debut album, Survival in Motion. In a conversation filled with genuine insight, Taylor shares the journey behind creating this album, which came together unexpectedly but beautifully, reflecting her life and growth as an independent artist.
As she gears up to open for iconic bands like Dashboard Confessional and Boys Like Girls, Taylor is ready to embrace new challenges and connect with audiences in bigger venues than ever before. In this interview, Taylor opens up about the significance of her songs, her preparations for the tour, and her hopes for how her music will resonate with both long-time fans and new listeners. With her first album release and a major tour on the horizon, Taylor Acorn is stepping confidently into a pivotal moment in her career.
YOU RECENTLY RELEASED SEVERAL SINGLES, INCLUDING “HIGH HORSE” AND THE LATEST ONE, “PEOPLE WATCHING.” HOW DID YOU DECIDE WHICH TRACKS TO INCLUDE ON YOUR UPCOMING ALBUM, SURVIVAL IN MOTION? I hadn’t planned on writing an album, and to be honest, I had no intention of releasing one. While I always thought it would be cool to write an album, I was also fine if we only ended up with a couple of songs that I really loved. My main goal was to write music I truly connected with. However, as we started writing these songs, I noticed how well they fit together and how much they reflected my life and experiences at the time. They seemed to naturally fit as a cohesive body of work, and after a week of writing, Dan, my producer, arranged the songs in a sequence and jokingly said, “Here’s an album.” We listened to it and realized how right it felt. I didn’t even have to consciously pick the songs for the album; it’s almost as if the album created itself.
IS THERE A PARTICULAR TRACK ON THE RECORD THAT IS MOST SIGNIFICANT TO YOU? The song “Greener” is particularly meaningful to me. While it is often thought to be about relationships, I personally connect with it as a representation of my struggles with mental health and my journey towards healing. The song challenges the old saying, ‘The grass isn’t always greener on the other side,’ and asks, ‘Well, what if it is? What if taking that step to be better truly positively impacts your life?’ That’s what the song means to me. It’s like an instant serotonin boost whenever I listen to it, even if I’m having a bad day. It just feels so good. “Birds Still Sing” is another new song that will be part of the upcoming album. That one is really special to me, too.
WHAT EMOTIONS DO YOU FEEL AS THE ALBUM’S RELEASE DATE APPROACHES? WHAT IMPACT DO YOU HOPE THE ALBUM WILL HAVE ON LONG-TIME FANS AND NEW LISTENERS DISCOVERING YOUR MUSIC? I feel a mix of emotions - excitement, nervousness, and a little bit of
strangeness. This album release is a big deal for me as it’s my first one. I’m thrilled that people will finally get to hear the music that I’ve put so much of myself into, but at the same time, there’s a fear of rejection. I really hope that people like it and understand where I’m coming from. Despite the nerves, I’m proud of the music, and I hope it brings positivity and joy to people’s lives. The album release coincides with our tour and adds to the chaos and excitement. I sincerely hope the album resonates with people and accurately reflects who I am as an artist.
SPEAKING OF THE TOUR, YOU’RE OPENING FOR ICONS DASHBOARD CONFESSIONAL AND BOYS LIKE GIRLS. I CAN IMAGINE IT’S A HUGE MILESTONE FOR YOU. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN PREPARING MUSICALLY AND MENTALLY?
I’m still processing everything, and I don’t think it will sink in until the day comes and we’re at the venue playing our first show. There have been so many tours in the past that have felt like they happened so fast, and then it was over, leaving me feeling like it wasn’t real life. I’m trying to keep a level head and embrace every moment. I’ve been running to improve my cardio because the stages are bigger than I’m used to. I’ve been working with my guitarist to build the set for this tour, experimenting with intros and different elements and adding new music and little extras to the show. I’m trying to stay calm and not get too nervous, but it still feels very weird that it’s happening. I’m very intimidated but excited at the same time.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO ADD ANY SONGS FROM THE ALBUM “SURVIVAL IN MOTION” TO THE SETLIST? We have decided to include a mix of older and newer songs in the setlist to maintain a balance. I’m excited to play new songs like “People Watching.” Additionally, we’ve been opening our set with a song called “Final Nail,” which has a vibe similar to “Misery Business” by Paramore, so I’m very excited about that one. The show is going to be high-energy and fast-paced, so I hope the audience is ready to dance and have a great time.
DASHBOARD CONFESSIONAL HAS A PASSIONATE FAN BASE. HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR MUSIC ALIGNS WITH THAT AUDIENCE?
I think they’ll be able to appreciate a handful of my songs. I feel like I’m a good mash-up of both bands, Boys Like Girls and Dashboard Confessional. Hopefully, the audience will appreciate it from both sides. Boys Like Girls fans enjoy the upbeat, love-drunk kind of vibes. And then, you know, Dashboard is more into the melancholy emo vibes. I think that my music emulates a little bit of all of that. So, hopefully, they receive it well.
WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO LEARN FROM BEING ON THIS TOUR? I’m really looking forward to the upcoming experience. It will be cool because it involves two bands I’ve admired since childhood. I’m interested to see how their teams work and their performances. I’m always learning from watching other people perform and getting ideas for live shows and stage setups when I have the opportunity for a big production. I feel like I’m just along for the ride, absorbing as much as possible. We’ve had some tours where we’ve had to learn the hard way, and my first couple of tours were a little rough regarding transportation and logistics. Hopefully, all those lessons have been learned.
ARE THERE ANY CHALLENGES YOU FACE WHEN BEING ON THE ROAD FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME?
Unfortunately, my cat back at home won’t be joining me on the road. Leaving her is always the downside. I have a roommate who works as a night shift nurse, and she spends a lot of time with her. She sends me photos and updates, but it’s hard to miss out. Leaving her behind is tough. It’s a challenge to have animals when you’re traveling.
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IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU ARE PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT FOR THIS TOUR?
I am really excited about performing at The Rooftop at Pier 17 in New York City. The venue offers a breathtaking view of the entire city. It has been a dream of mine to perform there for a long time. The venue holds special significance for me because I used to attend events there when I was younger. It feels like things have come full circle. I am thrilled to have the opportunity to perform there and experience it from the other side, rather than just as a fan.
HOW DO YOU BELIEVE THIS TOUR WILL INFLUENCE YOUR FUTURE CAREER? DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC GOALS FOR YOURSELF DURING THIS EXPERIENCE?
Meeting and gaining new fans would be great. I want people to enjoy my music and connect with it. Ultimately, I’m incredibly grateful for the chance to be a part of the experience. I’m a ‘live in the moment’ type of person who tries to appreciate what I have now rather than get ahead of myself. This opportunity is a big step for me, and I’m excited to see what comes next.
WHAT DOES THE REST OF 2024 LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU CONCLUDE THE TOUR WITH DASHBOARD CONFESSIONAL?
When we get back, we probably have about a week and a half, and then we’re off to the UK to tour with another fantastic band. After that, we’ll return home to celebrate the holidays, and then, in early December, we’ll head out to Australia. It’s going to be a pretty busy fall! We’ve been growing a little more with each tour, and it’s so rewarding to see our progress from when we started touring back in 2021. Every tour has been getting bigger, and we have opportunities our own shows, play at festivals, and travel overseas. Throughout it all, we’ve been independent, and it’s been a team effort. It’s really cool to see all of that happen. We’re all incredibly grateful for the opportunities that have come
As Taylor Acorn looks ahead, her excitement and gratitude for the opportunities unfolding are palpable. From sharing stages with her childhood idols to performing at iconic venues close to her heart, Taylor is soaking in every moment of this transformative journey. With her debut album, Survival in Motion, and a packed touring schedule that spans continents, she’s set on making 2024 a year of growth, connection, and unforgettable experiences. Taylor’s passion for her craft, her resilience as an independent artist, and her genuine connection with her audience shine through in everything she does. As she continues to embrace new challenges and opportunities, there’s no doubt that her star will keep rising, leaving an indelible mark on the music world and the hearts of her listeners.
INTERVIEW: Heather Koepp
PHOTOS: Ellie White
KALEO
On August 21, 2024, the renowned Icelandic rock band KALEO took the stage at The Troubadour in Los Angeles as part of their highly-anticipated “Payback Tour,” marking the beginning of the second half of their North American run. The intimate and historic setting of The Troubadour not only provided an ideal venue for KALEO to engage with their fans on a personal level but also made the audience feel like an integral part of the performance.
During this standout performance, the band showcased their exceptional skill by seamlessly blending their unique, raw, bluesy rock with delicate, acoustic moments. This masterful fusion not only captivated the audience from start to finish but also left them in awe of the band’s musical prowess. The venue’s exceptional acoustics further enhanced the experience, enveloping the crowd in the band’s powerful and emotional sound.
Following this performance, KALEO continued their tour through additional dates on the West Coast and across Canada, culminating in an anticipated finale at the House of Blues in Cleveland, Ohio. Throughout the tour, the band teased fans with new music, including singles such as “Rock N Roller” and “Lonely Cowboy,” sparking a wave of excitement about a potential new album and leaving fans eagerly anticipating what’s next from KALEO.
The new music retains KALEO’s distinctive blues-infused rock sound while introducing fresh energy and depth that reflects the band’s significant growth as artists. This evolution, marked by their ability to stay true to their roots while exploring new musical territories, has been met with enthusiastic response from fans, establishing the tour as a resounding success both critically and commercially.
The audience members who were present at The Troubadour performance were treated to far more than just a concert. The event provided them with a remarkable and unforgettable experience that not only left a lasting impression, but also firmly established itself as a standout highlight of the tour.
