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End of Fashion By Leigh Dillon & David Williams End of Fashion are on the verge of releasing their long awaited debut album, simply titled “Album” on August 17th. After the band’s two highly popular and well received EPs launched the band’s career, the first single from the album “Oh Yeah” has debuted high in the ARIA charts. We at Sauce were lucky enough to get an advance copy, which we reckon is pretty frikkin’ special. Rod from End of Fashion spoke to David Williams about the album, the law and about having a mum who lives in Launceston.
just had to come to a decision about it: were we going to have two drummers, one for Australia and one for the rest of the world? It was pretty agonising, we had to come to a decision. We really didn’t want to be parting ways. We talked about it for ages and we realised how we had to move on and he realised it too. He must have been gutted wasn’t he? He’s working at the moment and he’s always going to play music. Unfortunately that’s the risk you take. It could happen to anyone in anyone’s
tour in Australia and you think, “how does that work?” You went to Oxford, Mississippi to record the album, which strikes me as strange. Is that something that the band wanted to do or was it suggested to you? How did that happen? Basically we were looking for different producers to work with and one of the first we looked at was Mike Clink who did “Appetite for Destruction”. He was going to fly us over to Los Angeles first, do about three or four songs and see how it
You’re going to tour in September, is that right? But at this stage I haven’t seen any Tassie dates. My mum lives in Launceston and she flew across to see the Perth show and spent the weekend because I don’t get to see her very often because we don’t go to Tassie. She’s always going, “you should go to Tassie because there’s always people who want to see live shows,” and I’m like, “we want to go to Tassie, tell our booking agent, it’s not our fault.” We’d love to come to Tassie because a lot of our friend’s bands have been there and they always tell us that the crowd’s are great and they get right into it.
You’ve been getting a fair bit of radio play with “Oh Yeah”, you must be happy? Yeah it’s been pretty good. You don’t expect these things to happen all the time because commercial radio stations are a capricious beast at the best of times. I just really want to make songs that will be strong and also, aesthetically, we just like to strip everything back and keep everything very simple. So you don’t feel nervous at all? I don’t feel nervous. I’d be nervous if we were trying to please everyone. We can only do what we know is best for ourselves and we’re never going to please everyone. So some people are going to like it and some people are going to dislike it and that’s the way it’s going to be. With Tom and Nick coming into the band, was that because you guys kicked a couple of guys out? It’s really funny, we never kicked anyone out. We didn’t want anyone in our band to leave. Our old drummer unfortunately had a few problems with the law. There was going to be some problems with different countries, especially America where we ended up recording the album. So it’s a bit of an impediment when you want to do shows over there and you want to tour. We
producer for you guys because he’s more about the song as opposed to just the sounds. At first we were like, “we’ll check it out”, but after talking to him and seeing what he’d done and the music that he’d worked on we went, “oh well, he’s really good.” We said, “we’re happy to go where you are and where you feel comfortable.” He had a studio called Sweet Pea in Oxford near where he lived and it was great going there as it’s got such a cool vibe. Big soft couches everywhere, chandeliers, big long curtains, real atmosphere. It’s not working in a sterile environment. It was a good choice to go there.
How did you get signed to a label in the first place? We hassled people directly. We said, “we’ve got these songs” and just sent them the demos that we had. That’s the best way to describe it, we just hassled them directly.
job. It can be really hard to get visas for the states, even if you’ve had just one infringement. If you’ve had one drug conviction or anything like that you won’t get a visa. (But) it’s funny, you read in the newspapers about someone who was in prison (in America) for ages then goes on
was going to turn out. If it worked out we’d keep going but if not we could stop and then move on. But at the time we mentioned it (looking for a producer) to one of the A & R people at Capitol Records in America and they said, “actually there’s this producer and he’d be the best
Justin is quoted as saying that he wants to kill fashion, how do you feel about it? Well, kill fashion hey. I suppose I wouldn’t call myself a fashionable person but a stylish person. Style’s got nothing to do with fashion, it’s about how you present yourself and the way you feel as opposed to fashion which is like being dictated by the tastes of others. In a way, killing fashion would be good fun. But there will always be a fashion of some sort.
Dave McCormack Visiting Tasmania in early September to celebrate the vinyl re-release of “The Truth About Love” comes David McCormack and The Polaroids. Featuring four previously unreleased tracks from the original album version, David McCormack spoke to David Williams about touring Tassie, UFOs, suffering for one’s art and staying up as late as he wants.
You released “The Truth About Love” on CD some time ago, why are you releasing it on vinyl now? Well, during my 48 years in show biz, I have never had the pleasure of seeing my music represented as one long, continuous groove. That idea excites me. Also, we have included four tracks that were not included on the CD version of the album. I am very excited. On the back of this release you’ll be touring, including Tassie on your trek, what comes to mind when you first know, for sure, that you’re going to be playing in Tasmania? The first thing that pops into my head is the venue we always play at, The Republic Bar. Big Tony and the rest of the staff there do everything they can to make us feel welcome and at home. The food is excellent and the drinks just keep on coming. The crowds we get there are always very enthusiastic. I’d go so far as to say the crowds there go wild! How do you feel or what do you think about as the days draw nearer to the beginning of any tour? I am really excited. I get to fly around the country, have a few drinkies with my friends, play music and stay up as late as I want. This time we are bringing a great band from Brisbane called Gentle Ben And His Sensitive Side with us. I encourage everyone to get to the show early. They are terrific. Will The Polaroids be coming with you to Tassie and how much has the live show changed
Butterfingers By Leigh Dillon & David Williams With their new single, “Fig Jam” (Fuck I’m Good, Just Ask Me) recently released, Brisbane hip-hop act The Butterfingers hit Tassie in August as part of their national tour.
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since you were last here? I will have the full five-piece version of the Polaroids coming with me to Hobart. I am amazed we can fit on the stage! Also, on this tour, we are doing a handful of new songs. It is a good chance to try ‘em out on the audiences, see what they reckon. When not making music, what’s the number one thing you like to do and why? I always find myself thinking about music no matter what. I do not seem to be able to turn my brain off to that sort of thing. Every conversation, every thing I see, I try and fit it into a song somewhere. It makes me very tired. Even when I dream I do it. Consequently, I like anything that can turn my brain off for a while.... On your website, you say that there are no UFOs coming, that we’re completely alone - do you think that makes the human race more significant or less and why? I think we are an accident. There is no reason for us to be here. That is why I play music. Your website also has a celebrity photo of Wilston train station in the suburbs of Brisbane, are you getting homesick for the Sunshine State, now living in Sydney? It is true. I miss Brisbane and its people. But I fancy Sydney quite a lot too. I guess you could say I am torn between two lovers, feeling like a fool. I included that photo because I got sick of the idea that celebrities had to be people. Why not places, feelings, food, appliances? Who have you been listening to lately - live or recorded and why? I like the latest Youthgroup album. That is very good.
duction on that Gwen Stefani song, you know with the “tick tock, tick tock” line in it. After the release of “The Truth About Love” on vinyl, and the tour to celebrate what does the future hold, as far as you intend, for you musically and personally? Well, I am amassing a backlog of new songs. I will
need to get them out. Apart from that, the CD of The Truth About Love is getting a release in the UK in October and we are heading over for 10 shows. That will be interesting to see how the UK audience react. I am definitely an unknown over there, and that might be good. Also, there is a Custard DVD coming out soon. I have been working a lot on that. Lastly, and perhaps a little impertinently, how is your love life (taking into consideration the title of your upcoming release)? Have you had any really painful experiences to give you inspiration? After all, an artist must suffer for their work, mustn’t they? I suffer constantly for my work, and now it is my audience’s turn!
Who is having the biggest influence on you musically these days and why? Probably Ry Cooder. He is just such a great feel player. Always the Beatles. I really liked the pro-
Last year you had a gig shut down because there was a rush of people. What happened there? That was Valley Fiesta put on by the council. It was a free event and it had television advertising and it was really heavily promoted so heaps of people came. I don’t know how they can blame us for that but basically it was overcrowded. I
They were telling us to chill the crowd out in between songs, coming on stage and getting me to tell everyone to stop dancing and relax, but then we’d come into our next song and it’d be just the same. Do you know any of the songs off our last al-
rock band, how do you see yourselves? We don’t really want to fit in any genre. We just want to do what we want. Lots of bands are like that I guess, but they end up getting put somewhere. I couldn’t say we’re a hip-hop band because we do lots of other stuff and I couldn’t say we’re a rock band because we do lots of other stuff. And I couldn’t say we’re a pop band either even though we’ve written pop songs.
Playing gigs in Hobart and Launceston, punters can expect a series of quirky and highly energetic shows. Having recently signed to Festival Mushroom Records, the Brisbane four-piece are on top of the world and singer Eddie Jacobson spoke to David Williams about the new single, the tour and whether he thinks he’ll survive it.
So, you’ve basically got one of those personality disorders where you are like plenty of different bands inside a band? Does Fig Jam show an evolution of your music, do you think you guys are evolving? How do you see it? I think if anything we’re going backwards. I guess, in a lot of the songs there is an evolution, there’s a lot of similar themes.
Has it (the single, Fig Jam) been getting picked up by radio since its release? Yeah. I haven’t got a list of who’s taken it but Triple J, Nova, Hot Radio and other stations that I can’t remember the names of have been playing it. We’ve got more coverage from this song that any other song that we’ve released previously.
It’s getting a little more grown up, but I don’t think Fig Jam is a great example of that. You played in Tassie at the Falls, that was your last trip down here, was it what you expected? We’d been to Tassie once before, we had people come to the show which is what you want. But the Falls thing we didn’t really know what to expect, we thought it was going to be good but we had quite an early timeslot so we thought it might be a bit early in the day for people to be getting into it, but it was really good.
“Fuck I’m Good, Just Ask Me”, is that about how independent artists have to push themselves? Well I guess there is that angle about it. It’s shameless self-promotion in a way and you have to do that because no one else will do it for you. But the song is not really about that. It’s kind of a flow on from “I Love Work”, if you’re familiar with that song. It makes references to all the bad stuff that was happening to me.
We played at one or two of clock, the sun was beating down, but heaps of people came over to check it out. There was daytime moshing, it was really good. It’s normally hard to get people moshing in the day.
What were those bad things? Oh you know, getting sacked from my job and having my house burn down and all this stupid shit, so the first verse is kind of re-capping that and it’s saying how my luck has changed now, being in the band. (It’s about) All this good stuff happening to me and I start to get a real swelled head about it. So much so that I become really annoying and people want to kill me.
When you go on tour to promote Fig Jam - because you haven’t got a new album out - I guess you’ll be playing a lot of old stuff. Is that right? We’ll be playing a lot of stuff off the last album, but we’ve got Fig Jam and we’ve got heaps of new material. So we’re definitely going to chuck in a few new songs, good live ones, road testing them I suppose.
Were you smoking in bed or something when your house burnt down? (Laughs) No, I wasn’t no.
even heard in the papers afterwards that there was a riot which is totally untrue. It was fine, no one got hurt. There was just a lot of people, way too many people for the security they hired and for the space, it was just jam-packed. I think it was made out to be a lot worse than it was, and the cops were the ones who actually shut it down.
bum? Do you know the song called “Sorry”? We played that song and that’s when the cops came in and shut it down. They thought that we were trying to turn the crowd against them by getting them to chant the “mutherfucker line”; they thought it was directed towards them. Do you guys see yourself as a pop band or a
What’s planned for after the tour? I’m not sure I’m going to make it, but we’re doing a bit of recording pretty much a week or two after the tour.
The Panics By Leigh Dillon & David Williams With their new album titled â€œSleeps Like A Curseâ€? about to hit the stores and a national tour about to kick off, Jae Laffer from Perth band The Panics spoke to David Williams about the new record, partying it up on tour and why Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash are constant sources of inspiration for him. Are you feeling nervous about the release, â€œSleeps Like A Curseâ€?? No not really, weâ€™re all really happy with the record, and so far people have been responding really well to it. We just keep getting more confident. Thereâ€™s a real entry level process to go through and it would be dire straits if I considered every record, every song and every gig we did. I want to be doing this in ten years so I try not to stress too much at the moment. I just keep writing. Itâ€™s going to be a good time. How long has it been, the process of writing the material, recording and mastering it and then actually getting it out? We started writing in September last year, weâ€™d just finished touring for the last record and we were working on it then. Thatâ€™s not too long ago. We were in the studio in about May, so I guess itâ€™s a nine month process to keep that cycle going, which is what we aim for. A couple of years ago when we did our first record, it took months to put together and we thought, fuck we canâ€™t do that. We try and demo the minute we finish the last record, we kind of pride ourselves on being able to do stuff quite quickly. This is our third record in a couple of years and if we can keep that up weâ€™d obviously be pretty happy. When you went to England was that a playing tour or were you over there getting some inspiration for writing? We kind of mixed the two. We had the opportunity to play some big gigs in London and we really wanted to go over. Five weeks later
we had gigs at an industry convention. There were people from all over Europe from (record) labels. They just get together and try and sign bands, and we figured in the meantime weâ€™d get a rehearsal room down in the industrial estate. Weâ€™d go down there everyday and write and demo and get a new record together. Then on the weekends weâ€™d play gigs. We also did some stuff on radio on the BBC; we had a lot of time there to soak in the town and get to work on the record. Did anything come of the trip in terms of labels or anything like that? Yeah, it did. Weâ€™re talking to people right now about licensing this record, but weâ€™re just going to focus on doing this whole release thing in Australia first then weâ€™ll kind of head over there and make a few choices regarding the record.
But it was a really good conference, people came from all over Europe and it was stuff we hadnâ€™t given much thought to before. Itâ€™s something we want to start making work. Weâ€™d never really thought about the potential of the band. Itâ€™s exciting. You recorded the songs for the new album, â€œSleeps Like A Curseâ€? like a live process, where youâ€™re all kind of playing together, is that right? We had a bad habit of labouring over stuff but we did a tour the month before the album (process) and we finished up in Brisbane and the following night we started the recording down in Sydney. We did the whole tour for the purpose of being in that headspace, playing every night.
Because no matter how you feel youâ€™ve got to get into the swing of it and put on a good show. We had that whole feeling when we got into the studio, weâ€™d been on the road long enough to only be worried about the show. So we just got in and churned out all the songs like we were on stage. It was a very enjoyable process. It took a couple of weeks to do vocals and to add some other details like strings and samples but it was really good. Iâ€™ve read that the album, according to some people, is a step in a new direction. What do you think of that statement and how much do you think is true? Weâ€™re still playing the same bunch of instruments. I think the band is stepping into its role really well and we donâ€™t really talk about it. We spend so much time listening to records, but whether that rubs off I donâ€™t know. I think
weâ€™re getting better at making records. I focus on my language a lot more and listen to what I consider to be the great lyric writers. Itâ€™s a little bit different to our last record I guess, itâ€™s a big step, weâ€™re moving the records in small directions each time. And we want to make lots of records. You said before that youâ€™ve been listening to what you consider the great lyric writers, who do you consider those people to be? For me, over the last couple of years Iâ€™ve collected the whole Bob Dylan catalogue. I love him and Johnny Cash and a lot of the old rockers. Lots of simple, great pop tunes, the Motown era. I just like great writers. I like people like Bob and Johnny Cash because theyâ€™re uncompromising and theyâ€™ve got that
thing where you canâ€™t help but listen to every word. Itâ€™s commanding with its presence in that way that they get the dialogue across. Itâ€™s what Iâ€™d like to find in myself. I love the imagery that people like them and Neil Young can put through. It seems to perfectly match the atmosphere that they create musically as well. How many times have you guys toured Tassie? We havenâ€™t really toured. We came down once but that was for the Falls Festival so Tassieâ€™s not somewhere weâ€™ve been able to do, or we couldnâ€™t afford to have those extra flights onto the tour itinerary. So weâ€™re looking forward to that one. I went there (Tassie) when I was really young. My dad was born in a place called Zeehan, itâ€™s like a mining town. I remember Cradle Mountain. I donâ€™t think there was any snow though. You say this is the biggest tour you guys have ever done. It must be a bit of a confidence builder for you guys doing more and bigger shows? Yeah, we enjoy it so much. Itâ€™s incredibly tiresome but we just want more and more and more. It doesnâ€™t take long after the end of a tour for us to really want to get back into it. Just to travel around the country with your mates, staying in a different town every night is just such a buzz. We love going to all the country areas. We tour quite regularly around the east coast and we get good crowds and they just keep getting bigger. Weâ€™re just stoked. We just donâ€™t want to stop, but we need to start exploring other countries so that we can keep touring up. Do you guys have to stop yourselves from partying too hard after the gigs? Definitely. Itâ€™s so tempting, as soon as you get off the stage. It doesnâ€™t matter how bad you had it the night before, you just feel like celebrating because youâ€™ve filled up a club full of people. You canâ€™t help it; you just get drunk every night. So with the right persuasion you could be in for a big night after the gigs down here? Oh absolutely, very little persuasion. We owe Tassie a bit of a good time because we havenâ€™t been there properly. Itâ€™s definitely in order.
Halfmast By Ryan Cooke You have come along way from your PopPunk days in the Rock Challenge, why the change in direction? We are still playing a few songs that we wrote that year. In fact we still play the two songs we played at the RC three years ago. So I wouldnâ€™t say our direction has changed too much. The band has had a solid lineup now for a while, why such a shake up over the last 6 months? No shake up really. Our bass player left to pursue other avenues. But itâ€™s alright, we got a new one. Brumz is doing a great job. What do you describe as your sound? Punk rock with a twist of Emo and hard rock. People are labeling Halfmast as a Nu-Metal band these days, how does this affect the band? To our knowledge only one person has said that. It hasnâ€™t affected us in the slightest.
What is in the future for Halfmast? We are writing lots of cool new songs and have gigs coming up over the next couple of months and are hoping that we will be able to release a new CD later this year.
Well Brumz has shed a tear. But thatâ€™s all.
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