Mindscapes of Oil

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BH: Yes. DU: So, you have a specific reason for living in Rozenburg then. BH: Yes. It was the first place where we could get a house so thats where we ended. DU: How long have you been living in Rozenburg? BH: I think twenty-eight years. DU: Twenty-eight years! BH: Yes. DU: Do you really feel the impact of the industrial zone in Rozenburg? Because, Rozenburg is buffered from the industry with a green belt. Do you feel secure and detached? BH: Yes! There is not much of… There is a lot of noise from the factories but the smell from the factories we don’t have much trouble from. Because it’s most of the time west winds, so it blows away from us. And because it’s green around it and there is water on all sides. You don’t really realise you’re living in the mid of the industry. DU: When did you move to Rozenburg… Did you ever feel scared or uncomfortable because of the industry? Did you get used to it after some time? BH: No, no… At the first i thought “Wow! This is big, this is all factories” but when you drive into Rozenburg you don’t see it anymore so i felt comfortable it was no problem. And the second thing is we all live from it. We all get a living from industry and harbour and yeah so… DU: What is your earliest memory about oil? BH: I saw it upstairs. It was the oil crisis from the 1973. So, we had a… some days without cars… but we were living in the North of the Netherlands and we were about three kilometres from the village and we had to go to church on Sunday and because we were living that far away we could go by car and we had an old granny living in our home so she couldn’t walk or go on bicycle… So we had to go by car and it was so quiet on the road! There was nobody there! It was frustrating… Yes, that’s what i remember from oil… the first memory… DU: So, What is your second?= BH: =The Rozenburg. DU: Since you are living in the Rozenburg… BH: Yes. DU: How do you imagine the future beyond oil? Do you find alternative energy sources quite challenging? BH: Ohh… It is a difficult question. It is something that you can’ imagine very clearly because you see now the windmills and the sun… solar panels you see… and but cars i don’t see them go very far on batteries just now you can’t go far. Maybe in ten years time it will be a lot better so you can drive straight to Groningen. DU: New sources will replace oil anyways… BH: I think so. Yes, maybe i don’t see that in my… DU: So, you are hopeful. There won’t be a scarcity of energy in the future or empty roads… BH: No, no… I think no… DU: So, you imagine our built environment will be like today. BH: Yes. INTERVIEW WITH STEPHAN OOSTERHUIS High School Teacher Audio Record at Museum Rotterdam, Rotterdam Date of Interview: 15.10.2016 DU: Can you please introduce yourself? SO: Yes, my name is Stephan Oosterhuis. I am a teacher, teaching for twelve to eighteen. DU: Are you from the Netherlands? SO: I am Dutch. DU: Where do you live? SO: I live in Boskoop. That’s about thirty kilometres North of Rotterdam. DU: Where do you work? SO: I work in Zoetemeer. DU: What is your earliest memory about oil?

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