Jayden

MILWAUKEE ORAL HISTORY PROJECT The Reminiscences of Jayden

ART START Columbia University 2018

PREFACE The following oral history is the result of a recorded interview with Jayden conducted by David Emmanuelle Castillo on May 17, 2018. This interview is part of the Milwaukee Oral History Project.

The reader is asked to bear in mind that they are reading a verbatim transcript of the spoken word, rather than written prose.

Jayden – Session #1 – 3

ATC Interviewee: Jayden Interviewer: David Castillo

Session #1 Location: Milwaukee, WI Date: May 17, 2018

Q: Good afternoon. My name is David Emmanuelle Castillo. It is Thursday, May the 17th of 2018. I serve as a planning assistant for the Department of Black and Latino Male Achievement.

I'm in interviewing student Jayden Yubel [phonetic] who attends Roosevelt Middle School of the Arts and I have his permission to do this interview. With that said, we'll get started. First question, Jayden—

Yubel: Yes?

Q: —talk to me about—before I even get into your concept, just talk to me about the whole—the Art Start Portrait Project. What was it about this project so far that you really, really like?

Yubel: [00:00:37] That you represent yourself and, like, what you want to be when you get older and that your dreams could come true. And the thing I like about this is, like—it's, like—it takes you to a whole other level, if that makes sense. Because, like, they, like, putting it out there that you want to be what you want to be and they all support you and stuff like that and encourage you. So, that's what I like about the turnaround service [phonetic] or whatever.

Jayden – Session #1 – 4 Q: Okay. So, you say—see how it just went red? That means I'm talking too loud. You said it takes it to a whole new level and I know what you mean by that. I want you to speak more on that.

Yubel: [00:01:27] It's, like, people might feel like, "Oh I'm probably not going to be this when I get older. But this program does [phonetic], like, encourage you to—like, sort of you focus on it and you, you know, put your mind to it. And, like, they don't say, "Oh, you're going to be"—and then, like, turn around to somebody, say, "Oh, he's not going to be in because he's too" this or that. And that's what I mean by taking it to another level.

Q: Another level [phonetic]. Okay, so what do you think it is—so, at the beginning of your response, you were saying something of—along the lines of, like, people don't think that they're going to be whatever it is that they want to become, right?

Yubel: Yes.

Q: Just from your perspective, right, why do you think that that's the case, why people have that belief? Like what do you think contributes to that?

Yubel: [00:02:28] Other people say, "You're never going to be this, you're so stupid and you"— and special ed. class or something like that. Well, I'm not in special ed. class but, like, most people here are in special ed. class. And they—other people might think that they're never going to make it because they're in special ed. class and they need a little more help than other people

Jayden – Session #1 – 5 because they kind of need help more, obviously. And they probably get picked on, saying, "You're—never be this or you're never going to be that," because they're this person that's different from others. But they're not really different. They just—yes, they stick out more. And they probably take that with them for, like, when they're age, like, thirty or twenty and say, "I'm not going to be this, I'm going to be that. I'm not going to be this, what I want to be when I get older, because people were talking about me and I don't want them to make—to laugh about me.

And so, I'm just going to be this."

Q: Okay. Real quick [phonetic]—okay, so I don't know if you know this, I used to be a special education teacher. I don't want you to think that I too what you said personally, because that’s not the case. But hearing what you just said, I'm guessing that's what you've witnessed? Because I know you say you're not a special ed.—

Yubel: Yes.

Q: —but I'm guessing you've witnessed, like, peers of yours that were in special ed. where, like, they've been told that message? Or you've witnessed some type of, like, messaging being told to your peers?

Yubel: [00:04:25] Like, I miss—like, I've been a part of that. But, like, saying I'm—"You're going to be a loser" and stuff like that. But I don't care. I know I'm not going to be a loser because I'm smart and I know I'm smart. So, people cannot let [phonetic] me down, so—and I just don't care what people say, probably, sometimes, because it hurt my feelings saying that I'm

Jayden – Session #1 – 6 a loser. Like, why do I have to be a loser? But I have to—I [phonetic] witnessed because I was the person that they talked about.

Q: Wow, okay. Obviously, this is a dumb question but, like—so, I guess I'm going to word it this way. One, how did that make you feel?

Yubel: [00:05:20] It made me—oh, you can—

Q: So, go ahead. No, how did that make you feel?

Yubel: [00:05:25] It made me—so, it made me mad—sad because, like, I don't want to be a loser.

I don't want nobody to think that I will be a loser. And I am, like—I need, kind of, help with reading and I'm kind of struggling. But, like, I don't want people to think that I'm a loser. And I just don't want people to think that I'm just this person that's—don't do nothing and—but play a stupid game. I play Fortnite at home and for some reason, it distracts me from doing a lot of things for some reason. And I told my friends that—and then, they're just saying, "Oh, don't worry about it. No, that's no good." Like, it hurt my feelings. I don't want people to think I'm, like, a crybaby or nothing, but it hurt my feelings. I don't—it hurt my feelings and if it hurt then it just hurt.

Q: Yes. Well, you can feel free to be vulnerable, okay? I'm not going to—this is a safe space.

This is a brave space. I'm not going to judge you and I actually encourage that, I mean, that we do be vulnerable because we're kind of taught in society not to be vulnerable and to suppress our

Jayden – Session #1 – 7 feelings. You don't have to say specific names and I'm going to ask that you don't. But were these, like, adults that said this to you? Like, what role were these people in that told you this— was it, like, a classmate—

Yubel: [00:07:05] It was at home. But it wasn't a big deal. But, like, I was just playing a game, just a simple game. And I really didn't do nothing but just play the game and—

Q: Okay.

Yubel: —I basically got distracted. I don't know how, but so, I'm [phonetic] playing the game.

I'm going to just stop playing the game because I'll get distracted a lot, apparently, because I play this stupid game. So, I'm just going to stop playing the game and—yes, stop playing the game.

Q: Okay. If you had the opportunity, I guess, to the people that say these things to you, whoever they are, what's something you would like to tell them so that they could change and not do those things, like, what—

Yubel: [00:07:52] Tell them, like, I'm not [unclear] I don't just say—like, because I don't want to get in trouble or nothing like that, but to just tell them how I feel. Because how—why would you say I'm a loser? Like, I'm not even a loser. I'm just playing a stupid game that—I'm not bothering nobody. I'm not bothering nobody at all. Just playing the game and that's it. Like, I'm not doing nothing to nobody. I'm not hurting nobody. The only people I'm hurting is the people in the

Jayden – Session #1 – 8 game. [laughter] And I just—I don't even care anymore. I'm just—I will say a lot of [phonetic] things and—bad things.

Q: You're cool. You're free to say that here, I hope you know that. You don't—I mean, if you don't feel comfortable saying that, that's totally fine. Give me a quick second. I realize that [phonetic] these people back here are being a little too loud. [INTERRUPTION] So, Fortnite, was is Fortnite? Tell me a little bit about that.

Yubel: [00:09:41] Oh, how did you know I was talking about Fortnite?

Q: Because you said that. You're, like, "I play Fortnite."

Yubel: [00:09:45] Oh, yes. It's a game that is—I kill people and I try—my goal is to be the first —the last person or the last squad or last duo to play a game. And then, it's like this mode named versus fifties [phonetic]. My team, the fifty of us and the other team is—- like, the map is broken down in half, so my team over here and their team over here and we could probably go over to the other [phonetic] team and kill them and we try to make it to be the last person, last, well, group off people.

Q: Okay. All righty. So, you told me about the Portrait Project and why—you [unclear] and I can't remember exactly how you worded it, but—oh, how they take it to the next level. So, with that said, what was your concept about? Tell me a little bit more about your Portrait Project concept. I wasn't there to see it.

Jayden – Session #1 – 9

Yubel: [00:10:54] So, I was with this lady. She picked me up from school and dropped me off there. And it was cool. I was just taking pictures and they [phonetic] showed me this new design.

And they showed me this new design that they did and they had a dog, so I was playing with the dog, of course. And they showed me, like—because most of the stuff they did, I didn't believe— like, see, because I was like the person, the doctor going just walking to something. And then, it was like me in the other background. It was, like, a picture of—it was, like, a lot of these. And I was in the background, running to patients and I was in the other—right here, talking to, like, a —probably a co-worker. And I liked it, because my—they—I really liked it. That's it.

Q: So, you want to be a doctor?

Yubel: Yes.

Q: And already—we were talking before we started, I know you say you wanted to be a brain surgeon. What inspired that? I mean, you shared that with me, but for the purposes of the interview, I want you to share that again.

Yubel: [00:12:18] This movie on Netflix, it was, like, 2014 when I watched it, I think. It was called Gifted Hands and it was about a black brain surgeon that's—that helped people, the brains, like, Siamese twins or whatever. He separated them and I want to be that person that helps people, that they won't—like, help them so they could be a better person or something like that.

Jayden – Session #1 – 10 Q: Okay. Why do you think that movie was impactful for you?

Yubel: [00:13:08] Because it was a black man and I think he was the first one—I think he was the first one, the first black—African American to be a brain surgeon, I'm—for sure [phonetic]—

Q: Talking about Ben Carson?

Yubel: Yes.

Q: Okay.

Yubel: [00:13:22] I think he was. I don't know. And I just fell in love with it. And, like, fell right over [phonetic] the movie and I just—instant—told to my mom, "I want to be a brain surgeon."

And I kept that all the way to 2018. In, like, 2012 or '14—I don't really remember. And I just kept—stuck with it all the way here.

Q: Okay. I'm going to kind of dig a little more about the movie. Why do you think that was so meaningful to you, like, to see that? I mean, you kind of touched on it right in your answer. But, like, if you could elaborate a little more and, like, thinking about, like, in relation—like, other movies you've seen. How have you seen, like, black people portrayed in other movies?

Yubel: Either it's [phonetic]—

Jayden – Session #1 – 11 Q: And, like, what made this movie different from, like, other movies?

Yubel: [00:14:23] Because in movies, in regular movies, we really don't see an African American helping—well, not necessarily helping but, like, you know, working hard, like, going into it and helping people's lives. And we really don't see that in all type—and, like, movies. So, that's what —it, like, stuck out to me and—because—I don't know what else to say. I just think that.

Q: So, how do you normally see—

Yubel: [00:15:03] Other movies?

Q: Or not other movies but, like, how do you—when you see movies, like, what do you—what's the way—

Yubel: It's—

Q: —like, black people are portrayed?

Yubel: [00:15:13] Like, my favorite movie—Grown Ups 2. It's this movie—it's funny but, like, it's not—nobody helping nobody. And I'm totally cool with that. I like funny movies and [laughter] movies don't always have to be people helping people or they help lives or something like that. But this movie really stuck out to me. I don't—I really don't have any more details—

Jayden – Session #1 – 12 Q: Yes.

Yubel: —to, like, tell you.

Q: No, that's fine. So, really quick, are you from Milwaukee?

Yubel: Yes.

Q: Born and raised?

Yubel: Yes.

Q: Share with me a little bit—I guess I don't want to say your upbringing but, yes, share with me a little bit about your upbringing and, like, what are your feelings about the city you're from?

Yubel: [unclear]

Q: What are your feelings about Milwaukee?

Yubel: [00:16:13] My feelings about Milwaukee. I just want to move because the time I [phonetic] [unclear] in Florida. Orlando, Florida. And I really like it there because it's hot all the time. And Milwaukee's so cold when it's, like, winter. And it's a lot of shootings going on. And it's a lot of people dying. And I'm just—I don't want to—because person—like, because people

Jayden – Session #1 – 13 get killed almost every day. And I—what if it's one of my family members that get killed? And I feel like, in Florida, we're safe and we have all other family members. And I feel like in Florida, we're safe and we don't have to worry about killings. But I heard in Florida it was, like, people— like, fifty people that got killed. But, like, in Milwaukee, you hear about eighty people got killed and somebody ran over and somebody got shot, somebody—this and that. And I just like Florida better. And I wouldn't raise my kids, if I have kids, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Q: You wouldn't?

Yubel: [00:17:34] I mean, I would—

Q: You would?

Yubel: —because my family—but, like, at the same time, I would move, like, somewhere that I'm comfortable with and make sure my children—safe.

Q: Okay. Man, thank you for sharing that. You got really deep with that. I feel like I should know this because I have all your paperwork for the Art Start project, but what neighborhood do you live in?

Yubel: [00:18:08] What do you mean by that?

Q: Or, like, where do you live at?

Jayden – Session #1 – 14

Yubel: [00:18:11] 15th and Keefe.

Q: 15th and Keefe.

Yubel: [00:18:14] It's a good neighborhood—

Q: Okay.

Yubel: —like, it [unclear] homeowners there—or over here [phonetic]. So, like, that probably don't mean nothing, but I—it's—they, you know, [unclear] and they, you know, own a house.

And over there, I feel safe. But at the same time, like, in other places of Milwaukee, I don't because, like, there's a lot of shootings going on and there's a lot of, like, people getting kidnapped and stuff like that. And I just don't—yes.

Q: You don't want any part of that.

Yubel: [00:18:54] Yes. But most of my area, it's safe [phonetic].

Q: Good. What schools did you go to growing up? Have you only been at Roosevelt or—

Yubel: [00:19:08] No. I went—

Jayden – Session #1 – 15 Q: As far as you can remember, so—

Yubel: —okay, I went to—

Q: —don't feel like you've got to, like, remember everything.

Yubel: [00:19:17] It was this—you know where midtown's at [phonetic]?

Q: Yes, I know where midtown's at [phonetic].

Yubel: [00:19:22] It's like a school—it's like church school or something like that right there. I went to that and I was, like, in K something—K3 or K4, I don't know. And then, I went to Shimon [phonetic]—oh, when I was in kindergarten. And then, I left there and I went to Florida, I believe, and I went to Rose—it was Rose something, I forgot. It was something in Florida, I forgot. And I moved back here and I went on the [phonetic]—I went to Bethune [phonetic] Academy.

Q: Okay. Oh, Bethune [phonetic]?

Yubel: Yes.

Q: That's the one off of 39th and Cherry?

Jayden – Session #1 – 16 Yubel: [00:20:19] I think so.

Q: Okay.

Yubel: [00:20:20] I went there and then I moved to a USA—it's a guy that—we both went to the movie—said movie—to the school with, so I know him. And then, I went to Pierce [phonetic] Elementary and then I came here.

Q: Okay. Out of all the schools you've been to, which one has been your favorite?

Yubel: [00:20:50] Sherman [phonetic].

Q: Sherman [phonetic]? Why was that?

Yubel: [00:20:54] Because, like, it—because if—I don't know how to explain it. But, like—

Q: Take your time with it.

Yubel: [00:21:16] Because I had a lot of, like, teachers that I loved and saying—I'm, not, like, saying that all the teachers I had—it was suckish [phonetic], but all the teachers I loved were there. And my principal, I love here. And I had a CLT, or but this CLT [phonetic] [unclear] stay, like, to [phonetic] five—it was, like, three to five or something. My mom picked me up and my mom was, like, close with the teachers, especially—and then, my, like, third or second grade

Jayden – Session #1 – 17 teacher, Miss Maybon [phonetic]—and always remember her and that was my favorite teacher of all teachers. And I loved that school because I had so many friends there. And I was, like, so sad to leave from Milwaukee to Florida, so—

Q: Okay.

Yubel: —yes, that was my favorite school.

Q: So, you went from Milwaukee to Florida. What grade were you in when you made that move?

Yubel: [00:22:24] I think about third and—second or third.

Q: That was, like, what, four, five years ago?

Yubel: [00:22:34] I believe, because I'm eleven now. So, yes, around that age.

Q: Okay.

Yubel: Yes.

Q: How was that, that move? Like, how was that change for you? I'm sure there was some change with that.

Jayden – Session #1 – 18 Yubel: [00:22:47] Yes, it was difficult because, like, we kept going back and forth to see our family. And, plus, my granddad got sick. He had—got dementia. So, he went over there—oh, we went there and it was pretty sad because he had dementia and it was kind of, like, sad. And then, we—it was, like, when we moved back there, the reason why I kept on, like, going to Milwaukee from Florida, Milwaukee to Florida because the holidays—I spent the holidays with my dad and his wife, Christmas, and I loved it. And I came back and my granddad died and—well, my great granddad and my granddad's wife died, my grandma, Miss—her name's Missou [phonetic], we call her Missou [phonetic].

Q: Okay. So, you said—so, you moved—

Yubel: [00:23:49]

Q: —to Florida, right, and it's because of your grandpa? Or it was to—

Yubel: [00:23:53] No, the reason we moved—well, I really don't know the reason why we moved. But, like, I mean, I loved Florida. Like, instant loved it because the weather, of course.

Q: Yes.

Yubel: [00:24:05] Milwaukee is bipolar. [laughter] The weather just be changing up. Next thing you know, it's sunny [tone] and then it's raining and then it's snowing and then it's just sunny

Jayden – Session #1 – 19 again. And Florida, it's just probably—it's tropical and it's hot and it rains a lot. It rains, like, a lot there. But I could deal with the rain, other than snow.

Q: Okay. And when you were in Florida, was your family—were you all, like, coming back to Milwaukee and going back and forth? Were you just, like, in Florida?

Yubel: [00:24:44] I had a part of family that was in Florida already, some family there already, and then we moved there. And then, like, we start—we moved in there and then got—and then we went back. It was—we—it was a lot of movement. But I liked it. I liked, like—I'm a family guy. I'm, like, family person. I like—love to hang around family. But for some reason, I do not like spend a night where—nowhere [phonetic]—but that's okay.

Q: Okay. So, you—how long were you in Florida? Couple years?

Yubel: [00:25:43] Yes, it was a couple years, I know that.

Q: A couple.

Yubel: [00:25:45] It was, like, five or three. I'm not sure. It was, like, around that time, around that—

Q: Oh, okay.

Jayden – Session #1 – 20 Yubel: —yes.

Q: And when did you come back to Milwaukee if you could, like give an estimate. Like, what year was it that you came back?

Yubel: [00:26:01] I was—I think 2012, then, because I went back because my family—I missed my family and, plus, we had this set-up where I'd go to my dad's house every Christmas and then go back to my mom to get presents and then come back to Florida with my mom.

Q: Okay. This will probably require some real digging deep thinking on your part. But when you left to Florida and came back to Milwaukee, was there anything about the city that, to you, seemed like it had changed? Or did it still seem like the same Milwaukee to you?

Yubel: [00:27:02] So, when I grew up, I—it wasn't really—no, it wasn't really a lot of shootings going on—

Q: Okay.

Yubel: —and then it was, like—it changed now because it's a lot of shootings going on. [tone] A lot of shootings going on. And, I mean, when I went back, I think when I, like, officially moved here to Milwaukee, it changed a lot because a lot of people dying, killing, like, suicide and all that stuff and all, like, running over [phonetic] and shootings. And so, it, like, changed a lot for me.

Jayden – Session #1 – 21

Q: By running over, I'm guessing you're [phonetic] talking about, like, the Stoli [phonetic] situations.

Yubel: The what?

Q: The Stoli [phonetic] situations.

Yubel: Yes.

Q: Okay. Man. First, how [phonetic] old are you?

Yubel: [00:28:04] Eleven.

Q: Eleven, okay. How do you think—this might be a real, like, deep personal question. How do you think that type of stuff, right—because what I'm gathering from this interview is, like, you've probably heard or seen these things. Like, you've probably heard cars speeding [phonetic] down your street or you've heard gunshots or, you know, or you probably know people that have heard and seen these things. How do you think that impacts a kid—yes, how do you think that impacts, like, kids—

Yubel: [00:28:38] Because most people at my school, they so—they cool and, like, I feel like the people that—doing all this stuff [phonetic]—influence other kids to do this, to do all this stuff,

Jayden – Session #1 – 22 like a high-speed chase. And I feel like people like it. I'm, like—and I'm just not that type of person that like stealing cars and just that—I'm the type of person that, like—I don't like that type of stuff. And people called my—called me names. But I don't really care because I'll call them names back. And [laughter] it's influenced—it influences kids nowadays. And I just don't like it because, like, why do you influence kids to steal cars or make—or shoot or "Eff the police" and all that stuff? But, like, I get why they, you know, don't like the police, but yes.

Q: What do you mean by that?

Yubel: [00:29:55] Because I saw this little, like, cut, little clip with my social studies teacher.

And it was this man that ran—that stopped over, pulled over a lady. And she was, like—and she —and the police was, like, "Take your hands off the"—the thing [phonetic]. And she was, like, "Oh, no, I'm scared" and all that stuff. "I don't want to go to jail. I don't want to get shot." And this—the man said, "No worry, we only kill black people." And that—I really didn't like that, so —and there was another video that—it was this man selling loose cigarettes.

Q: Eric Garner. I know who you're talking about.

Yubel: [00:30:51] And then, it was six policemen. And he was big. And six policemen that tackled him down and he couldn't breathe. And he kept on saying he couldn't breathe, he couldn't breathe, he couldn't breathe. And apparently, they killed him. And, like, why? Why would you just do that? Like, if I was a police officer and I was arrested—well, I was doing whatever they

Jayden – Session #1 – 23 did, I would have—I did that. But, like, when he said, "I can't breathe," I would stop immediately and—because—it was [phonetic] illegal to sell those cigarettes?

Q: I'm not entirely sure. I think in the state of New York it was and I think that's why they frisked him. But I think, to your point, right, like—

Yubel: Yes.

Q: —they frisked him, tackled him down, and I don't think they meant to choke him. I think by —just by the way they tackled him down and the way they grabbed him, like, he was being choked. But I think to your point, was, like, the minute he said he couldn't breathe, like—

Yubel: [00:31:58] Stop!

Q: Yes.

Yubel: [00:31:59] He can't breathe!

Q: So—

Yubel: And—yes.

Q: And how do you think those relations are in Milwaukee—

Jayden – Session #1 – 24

Yubel: I mean—

Q: —because those are videos, I think, that occurred in different states or in different areas.

Yubel: [00:32:13] Yes, I think so.

Q: How do you think relations with the police are in this city? Do you think it's—you could say it's similar?

Yubel: [00:32:21] Yes, similar, but not, like, not similar to the point where police officers just do bad stuff all the time because most police officers—well, some police officers, they just arrest people for what they need to be arrested for and keep it going. Excuse me.

Q: No, you're good.

Yubel: [00:32:50] But these other states, they just don't care. "And I don't care if I kill people. I really don't care." And my teacher said the three words they use in court—is, "I feared for my life." Like, how? You had—it was six people. Six of y'all. And you just fear for your life? It was one big guy and six of y'all. It only took two of y'all if y'all strong enough to, you know, get him down on the ground, arrest him. But, hey, no problem. Police officers do [phonetic]—

Q: Okay.

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Yubel: [00:33:36] Well, most. Well, some.

Q: I'm seeing about the [phonetic] stuff you said—how to ask this [phonetic]. So, I'm going to ask two questions and I think we'll get close to wrapping this up. I don't know why it peaked. I don't think I talked that loud, but it peaked. So, have you—how would you envision better relationships between, you know, the police and the communities they serve?

Yubel: [00:34:16] I think they are just—arrest people—or it's when they—or defend their self for the thing they need to do, because most of the things, they just do it just because they want to do it. And the things they do, they don't really—they don't have—well, they don't have to do it. But, like, they shouldn't do it, because it's not fair. And you kill people and then get away with it and then you get fired—well, the only thing you do is get fired and then get rehired or something like that or find another job, like—and I don't see why [phonetic] they could just, you know, do the thing they need to do and stop killing—but, like, if they need to do defend themselves if, like, a person has a gun and the police have a gun, too, and they shoot, they could shoot because, like, that's defending themselves because you could probably die from that. But if, like, if you shoot for no—for just no type of reason, no reason why you shot a person, then I feel, like, hey, just don't really care, just long as [phonetic] you don't kill my family. But I'm—or you just don't mess with—I don't know.

Q: Tough subject, right? Man, I just had the question and I lost it. So, I already asked you about, like, your take on Milwaukee and the city. What are your—why—I mean, I know from

Jayden – Session #1 – 26 [phonetic] being a brain surgeon, but other than that, like, what are your goals and why [phonetic]—

Yubel: [00:36:15] [unclear] in [unclear] I want to be the best parent to my kids and want them, you know, to say, "Oh, he was the best parent." But, like, not the best because nobody could be the best. But, you know, a good parent to my kids and be a photographer and able to take care of my children.

Q: What inspires your like for photography?

Yubel: [00:36:45] I don't really have a type of reason why. I just—I'm starting—I take pictures still [phonetic]—I take pictures of [phonetic] people now. So, I just—it's a—

Q: Hobby?

Yubel: Yes.

Q: Okay. So, this'll be the last question and then we'll conclude the interview, which, by the way, you've been a rock star. Really enjoyed doing your interview. If you had a magic wand to make the world a better place, how would you use that magic wand?

Yubel: [00:37:21] To zap people that think it's cool to kill people and think it's cool to just be— get on the high-speed chase and think it's a game. Or, like, when they get out of jail, say, "Oh, I

Jayden – Session #1 – 27 got in jail, so I'm—this is my third [phonetic]." I'd just make the world a better place so people will be safe walking down the street at, like, eight p.m. or by themselves, walking the dog or something like that. I just want people to be safe because it's, like, why [phonetic]—it's, like, you're not even safe in your own city that you were born and raised in. So, I would zap the world to make it more safe and—

Q: Okay.

Yubel: —yes.

Q: Perfect. Well, this will conclude our interview. Thank you, Jayden. Pefect [phonetic].

Yubel: [00:38:23] So, I have to say, what are you going to do with this thing?

[END OF INTERVIEW]