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DIGITAL ART: A META-MORDEN VIEW 侷㶶谀遮⯋植➿鋕ꅿ
START FROM ZERO: PINGYAO INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL 䖰ꨪⴀ涮䎂麵㕜ꥸꨵ䕧㾝
SOUK, DERIVATIVES, SIMULATION: THE WORLD CREATED IN ART 䋑㜥ծ遥欰ծ亻⫸谀遮䨾䒊圓涸⚆歲
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DIGITAL ART: A META-MORDEN VIEW 侷㶶谀遮⯋植➿鋕ꅿ
START FROM ZERO: PINGYAO INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL 䖰ꨪⴀ涮䎂麵㕜ꥸꨵ䕧㾝
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EDITOR’S NOTE âšşçŽĄăş•é“ƒ
THIS MAGAZINE LOOKS AMAZING #SINCE CREATIVE
In a sense, the history of humanity is a history of technology. Presumably, early humans had begun to take the
path unparalleled by other species the moment they learned to set a bonďŹ re. With the unceasing upgrading of technologies, human life has been transforming all the time.
In the wake of internal combustion engine and nuclear power, digital technology and network communication technology have the most disruptive power in modern times. They fundamentally change the way we relate
to life and the world, and consequently has thoroughly altered how we view ourselves as well as the world.
The emergence and popularization of new words like computer, mobile phone, Internet, Bitcoin and App not only make our life easier, but also transform everything around us, and art is no exception. In this issue, we bring together the digitalization trend in various art circles, followed by an exploration of how digital revolution plays a role in British art scenes through an investigation into the formulation and presentation of art as well as academic discussions and artists arguments about digital art. Hopefully this will reveal an art world of 0s and 1s to you.
âžƒę˛łćś¸ćśŽăž?〡厼ç??ä ‘çş?â™łâ˘ľé“žă˝ ĺƒ˝â™§éżˆçŒ°äŞŽćśŽăž?ă€ˇď˜šâ›łé?Şä–°âž˛ă¨Ľâžƒç—§â™§ĺŚ„⟎鼹ç?ŒćŠĄé˝Ąâ™§âľ ď˜šâ¤‘éŠŽâ™łâœŤâžƒâ›“ä¨žâ&#x;ƒć?€âžƒćś¸ 莅杞♜㠚朸朎ăž?é¨&#x;ä–œď˜ˇâ śęŚ‘čĄ˝âžƒę˛łä¨žäą?äłŁćś¸çŒ°äŞŽćś¸â™śĺ€ŹâźŽç§šď˜šâžƒę˛łćś¸ćŹ°ĺ´žâ›łă–ˆćśŽćŹ°čĄ˝çźşăŁ”éŠźă–’ćś¸éšśâť‹ď˜ˇ
ă–ˆâ°‰ć•Žĺ Ľă„¤ĺ‘?č…‹â›“ä–•ď˜šäž¸ăśśçŒ°äŞŽă„¤çŹŞçŞ„é¸’éŽ?äŞŽé Żćś¸ćśŽăž?ĺƒ˝éľœâžżĺ‰“â°¨ĺ‰¤ę˛ŽéŠźäš?ćś¸çŒ°äŞŽä§ĺ?“âœŤď˜šă¸?ä–°ĺ‰“ĺš€ăžľĺŚ„ä˝–éšśâœŤä§ŽâŚ› 莅揰崞ㄤ⚆ć˛ćś¸ęĄ â¤šď˜šâžƒâŚ›ćş?ä–Šč?ˆé¨ă„¤âš†ć˛ćś¸ĺ€°ä’â›łćśŽćŹ°âœŤä—Łä? ćś¸ä˝–éšśď˜šę¨śčˆĄď˜śäŠ›ĺ Ľď˜śâœ˝č€˘çŹŞď˜śĺŤ˛ćšśä?¤ď˜ś"11瘞瘞ă ?鑂朸 â´€ć¤?ă„¤ĺ…œâżťâ™śâŤŚâŤŚĺƒ˝é›Šä§ŽâŚ›ćś¸ćŹ°ĺ´žéšśä–¤ĺˆżâ¸ˆé°‹ë…źâ¤‘ä°Śď˜šâ›łă šĺ„˜ę˛ŽéŠźčĄ˝ä§ŽâŚ›ăƒ°éťŠćś¸â™§â´—ď˜šč° é ŻćŽšć?â›łâ™śâ˘żă˘Ťď˜ˇă–ˆé¸?ĺŠ?꧚é’&#x;
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The exhibition covers corporate identity in the
Advertising pamphlet for Medomina, Geigy, c. 1960. Courtesy - Display, Graphic Design Collection (thisisdisplay.org)
Can Graphic Design Save Your Life?
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pharmaceutical industry, and considers how graphic
designers deliver clear healthcare instructions to consumers
and health opens at Wellcome Collection in September 2017. Comprising some 200 objects including hardhitting posters, ashing pharmacy signs, and digital
teaching aids, Can Graphic Design Save Your Life? considers the role of graphic
design in constructing and communicating healthcare messages around the world and shows how graphic design has been used to persuade, to inform and to empower.
through carefully designed colour coding systems, written instructions and pill packaging. The front-line response in
battling epidemics continues to be crucial in global health. Renaissance plague notices and Victorian quarantine bills are displayed alongside global public health campaigns
sparked by the emergence of HIV/AIDS in the 1980s and
Ebola and Zika in Africa and Brazil respectively in the last few years.
The exhibition considers the persuasive strategies employed in shaping public
The ďŹ nal part of the exhibition considers how graphic
the 1980s. It also reveals the imaginative educational approaches taken to
response. Inspired by a contemporary reimagining of Ken
perceptions around smoking, featuring luxuriant advertising campaigns from instruct us about our bodies, from 16th century anatomical pop-up books
to 21st century apps, through to comic books advocating safe sex. The role
that design plays in informing and orientating people in medicalised spaces is also explored. These include the use of brightly coloured design schemes
design can empower people and provoke an individual
Garland s First Things First manifesto (1964), this section
includes powerful campaigns focused on raising awareness of breast cancer, and other complex conditions.
in children s wards to transform the hospital experience and improve
patient wellbeing in settings traditionally considered to be intimidating and unpleasant.
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Advertising pamphlet for Sterosan, Geigy, c. 1960. Courtesy - Display, Graphic Design Collection (thisisdisplay.org)
The ďŹ rst major exhibition exploring the relationship between graphic design
Basquiat ďŹ rst came to the media s attention in
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Jean-Michel Basquiat, Untitled 1982, Museum Boijmans Van Beuningen, Studio Tromp, Rotterdam
Basquiat: Boom for Real
1978, when he teamed up with his classmate the city under the collective pseudonym
SAMOŠ (a contraction of same old, same old shit ). He collaborated with other artists, most famously with Andy Warhol, created murals and installations for notorious New York
nightclubs including the Mudd Club, Area
and Palladium, and in 1983 produced Beat
Bop , a classic hip hop record with K-Rob and Rammellzee.
Basquiat: Boom for Real is the ďŹ rst large-scale
Highlights of this Barbican s exhibition include
artist Jean-Michel Basquiat (1960-1988). One of
of exhibited work, made for Diego Cortez s
exhibition in the UK of the work of American
the most signiďŹ cant painters of the 20th century,
watershed group show New York / New Wave
Basquiat came of age in the late 1970s in the
at P.S.1 in February 1981. Fifteen works are
New York. By 1982, he had gained international
years, allowing visitors to understand how
post-punk underground art scene in downtown recognition and was the youngest ever artist to participate in Documenta 7 in Kassel. His
vibrant, raw imagery, abounding with fragments of bold capitalised text, oers insights into both his encyclopaedic interests and his experience as a young black artist with no formal training.
brought together for the ďŹ rst time in over 35 Basquiat so quickly won the admiration of fellow artists and critics.
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Since his tragic death in 1988, Basquiat has had remarkably little exposure in the UK.
Bringing together an outstanding selection of more than 100 works, Basquiat: Boom for Real
focuses on the artist s relationship to music,
writing, performance, ďŹ lm and television, placing
him within the wider cultural context of the time.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat, Untitled (Pablo Picasso), 1984, Provate collection
Jean-Michel Basquiat painting, 1983, Photo copyright Roland Hagenberg
a partial reconstruction of Basquiat s ďŹ rst body
Jasper Johns, Flag, 1958. Encaustic on canvas. 105.1 x 154.9 cm. Private collection Š Jasper Johns / VAGA, New York / DACS, London 2017. Photo: Jamie Stukenberg Š The Wildenstein Plattner Institute, 2017
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The Royal Academy of Arts presents an exhibition of the Honorary Royal
Widely known for his iconic images of ags,
ďŹ rst comprehensive survey of the artist s work to be held in the UK in 40 years.
has occupied a central position in American
Academician, Jasper Johns. Jasper Johns: 'Something Resembling Truth' is the
The exhibition comprises over 150 works including sculpture, drawings and
prints, together with new work from the artist. Johns is recognised as one of the
most signiďŹ cant and inuential artists of the twentieth and twenty-ďŹ rst centuries and the exhibition will span over 60 years from his early career, right up to the
Jasper Johns, Target, 1961. Encaustic and collage on canvas. 167.6 x 167.6 cm. The Art Institute of Chicago Š Jasper Johns / VAGA, New York / DACS, London. Photo: Š 2017. The Art Institute of Chicago / Art Resource, NY / Scala, Florence
present time.
targets, numbers, maps and light bulbs, Johns contemporary art since his arrival in New York
in the 1950s. By 1955 his use of accessible and
familiar motifs established a new vocabulary in painting. Johns treatment of iconography and
the appropriation of objects and symbols made the familiar unfamiliar, achieving this through the distinctive, complex textures of his works. Through his ground-breaking paintings and
sculptures, Johns established a decisive new direction in an art world that had previously
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been dominated by Abstract Expressionism.
reveals the continuities and changes that
have occurred over the past six decades, and
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the curiosity and experimentation that Johns continues to apply to his current practice. The exhibition is arranged thematically,
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motifs and techniques including his unique use
ďˆŁęŹ—ćś¸ĺ”šć¤šď˜ˇé‘Şăž?錒ăź&#x;ăž?ⴀ⺍ä?ꧨă?–ď˜śç˛ćŽĽâ&#x;ƒâżťć™?ćŽĽâĄ˛ă…ˇç˜žéšŹ â&#x;?
encompassing the full range of Johns materials, of encaustic (heated beeswax) and collage in
paintings, and the innovations he has achieved in sculpture and the graphic arts by expanding the possibilities of traditional media. The title
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resembling truth, some sense of life, even of
âžŽäą°ćŹ˝ăˆ°äŠ›ă€łä–¤ćś¸ĺ‚ˆäŒ˘ă•ŹâŤšçŞ?ç˛ćŽĽč° é ŻäŒ&#x;â˘ľâœŤĺ€žé“ƒéŽŠď˜ˇâžŽăźŠă•ŹâŤšéšŽé ¤
grace, to icker, at least, in the work.
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of the exhibition comes from a statement
by Johns in 2006: One hopes for something
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Corrections to the First Draft of History
South Asia Art and Culture Programme
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New North and South is a network of eleven
arts organisations from South Asia and the
North of England. The exhibitions and events will take place at the Whitworth, Manchester
Art Gallery, Manchester Museum, Museum of
Science and Industry and HOME. The three-year project aims to connect with diverse audiences on both continents that showcase the best
of contemporary art from Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and the UK.
2017 programme highlights include the Whitworth to present
25 February 2018) at the Whitworth and throughout Whitworth
Neha Choksi, Waqas Khan, Mehreen Murtaza, Hetain Patel,
movement. The exhibition includes new commissions inspired
work of South Asian Modernists 1953-63; Solo exhibitions from Time Symposium Mexico
Raqs Media Collective: Twilight Language (30 September 2017 ‒
the ďŹ rst major UK exhibition by Raqs Media Collective and the
Risham Syed and a one-o performance lecture by Tentative
Collective at Manchester Art Gallery; 48hr one-o performance by Nikhil Chopra at the Museum of Science and Industry; Solo
show and interventions at Manchester Museum by Reena Saini Kallat.
Park explores the history of Surage and the birth of the labour by Manchester s industrial heritage. In the Collective s own
words, unravel worlds, make questions, haunt memorials, and
follow the tangled threads of how histories and ways of thinking about emancipation intersect.
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This September Manchester s cultural institutions
âž›äŽƒâ›°ĺ‰˘ď˜šĺ‰‹ä—Łĺ€›ćšśćś¸äż’âť‹ĺ Ľĺœ“ăź&#x;龔⢾㢾⥙⪂ⴀ朸⽂â??ㄤ⽂â??é…“č–Šă•œč°
Asian descent in a celebration of shared heritage and
猺⴪朸ăž?éŒ’ă„¤é‚?ć€ľď˜ˇâ§Šâ˝Ťä?žď˜śäŠźă›‡ĺ€›ă—žă„¤ä–•â˘ľćś¸ăˇ†â¸ˆäŹ˜ă•œä§ç”¨â™Źâź§éš‹äŽƒâ›“
welcome leading South Asian and British artists of South historic connections through a series of exhibitions and
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é Żă•°ë„“é‘‘ë€żăźçŠ‰ćś¸â™§ĺŚ„äš?é‚?怾é—?ä? îšŠçŒ°ăˇ¸čŽ…äŠ¨ĺ™ â˝ˆćš&#x;ę¸âšĽă˝łéĽ&#x;Ë™ă‹Žĺ…œäŹ˜ćś¸ ăźĺ„˜â™§ĺŚ„äš?é‚?怾剋 ä—Łĺ€›ćšśâ˝ˆćš&#x;ę¸ď˜šć‹ćŚ°ăŤŤË™â˝“čŹ ćšśäŒ&#x;⢾朸âŚ?➃ăž?錒 ă„¤č° é Żâž?â°…ď˜ˇ
㢾垺朸갉ĺ?żď˜śę¨śä•§ă„¤é‚?怾çœ?ćšĄď˜šéź?é”žéŒšćťžë„“ë€żéžŽăş˘ćś¸â˝‚â??äż’âť‹ď˜ˇ
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exhibitions present both new and seminal works, while a
倞⽂âť?ďš´ĺƒ˝ć‹âź§â™§âŚ?⽂â??ㄤ薊呔貽âť?éżˆćś¸č° é Żĺ Ľĺœ“ä¨žçŠ‰ä§ćś¸çŹŞçŞ„ď˜ˇăž?
ĺ€›â°—ă•¨â°‰äąłéŽŁéź‡čŽŠĺĽšćś¸ĺ¨œă€ˇă„¤äŠ¨âžƒéşŒâš›ćś¸é’˛ćŹ°ď˜ˇ
opening weekend invited audiences to experience a wealth
ę¸ď˜śçŒ°ăˇ¸čŽ…äŠ¨ĺ™ â˝ˆćš&#x;ę¸ă„¤)0.&äż’âť‹âšĽä—ąď˜ˇé¸?âŚ?ć?€ĺŠ?â™˛äŽƒćś¸ę°ŞćšĄĺ‚Œă–ˆć?€â°?
performances across the city. Marking the 70th anniversary
of the creation of India, Pakistan and later Bangladesh, eight wider programme of music, ďŹ lm and performances for the of South Asian culture.
éŒ’ă„¤ĺ´žâš›ăœĽă–’â´•â´˝ă–ˆä&#x;ƒćšśĺ°†ĺ€›çšĄé Żę¸ď˜śĺ‰‹ä—Łĺ€›ćšśçšĄé Żę¸ď˜šĺ‰‹ä—Łĺ€›ćšśâ˝ˆćš&#x;
ăŁ?ĺ´Žćś¸â™śă šéŒšćťžä’Šç”¨č€˘ç˛Żď˜šăž?çˆšâ˘ľč?ˆăˇ†â¸ˆäŹ˜ă•œď˜śâ˝Ťä?žď˜śäŠźă›‡ĺ€›ă—žď˜śĺ€›é…貽 ⽓â&#x;ƒâżťč–Šă•œĺ‰“âŞ‚â´€ćś¸ćŽšâžżč° é ŻâĄ˛ă…ˇď˜ˇ
䎃 剢 ĺ‚ˆî™¸ăź&#x;ă–ˆä&#x;ƒćšśĺ°†ĺ€›çšĄé Żę¸ă„¤ä&#x;ƒćšśĺ°†
Ⰼ⚼韊⺍ä?âœŤă€Œĺ‰‹ä—Łĺ€› ćšśäŠ¨ĺ™ ă‰ŹćśŽćś¸ďˆŁ 倞㨽鎡
âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜ˇ3BRT㯯넓ăźçŠ‰é“žîš‰ďšłäłˇę&#x;šâš†ć˛ď˜šâśžé?¤ă‰?ę˛—ď˜š ă–ˆ ç§ ä™‚çƒľä–§ ä–‘ď˜šâ´•ĺ?€â?œ ę?Ť çłź 粕 朸é?‘佞 ĺ¨œ 〡 莅䙟 é¨&#x;ď˜ˇďš´
Raqs Media Collective, 2017, Sitting at the desk and alcove where Karl Marx and Fredrich Engels worked at Chetham s in 1845
äŽƒćś¸ę°ŞćšĄâ?Žë&#x;ŠâşŤä?ä&#x;ƒćšśĺ°†ĺ€›çšĄé Żę¸ćś¸â˝Ťä?žč°
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Opera: Passion, Power and Politics
ćŒĺŠ‡ďźšćż€ćƒ…ă€ ćŹŠĺŠ›ĺ’Œć”żć˛ť The Victoria and Albert Museum, in collaboration with the Royal Opera House, creates a vivid and immersive journey through nearly 400 years of opera, exploring its passion, power and politics.
Opera: Passion, Power and Politics is the only
exhibition ever to explore opera on a grand scale, it Barbara Hannigan in Written on Skin. Director Katie Mitchell, designer Vicki Mortimer Š 2012 ROH Stephen Cummiskey
immerses visitors in some key moments of the history of European opera from its roots in Renaissance Italy
to its present-day form, by focusing on seven operatic premieres in seven cities. It reveals how opera brings together multiple art forms to create a multi-sensory
work of art, and show how social, political, artistic and economic factors interact with great moments in the
history of opera to tell a story of Europe over hundreds of years.
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ä‹’ë‰“âŻ˜ äŽƒćś¸Őˇč›?ĺ?żçšĄŐ¸ä¨žâĄ˛ćś¸ĺ‰Şęˇ‡é?¤éŽ™îšŠä Ś
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More than 300 extraordinary objects are shown alongside digital footage of compelling opera performances. Objects on display include Salvador Dali s costume design for Peter Brook s 1949 production of Salome; Music in the
Tuileries Gardens by Edouard Manet, a masterpiece of modernist painting contextualising Wagner s modern approach to music in 1860s Paris; the
ć€ľćś¸ä•§ć™šäš…ä˝žď˜ˇăž?ㅡ⺍ä?čŽ?晋檳㢾˙麨⾄ć?€ä•šä–¤Ë™ ä—ž čž Ë™ęź›ăŁžćś¸Őˇĺ‹â&#x;ťâš—ꅽ蔅㕨갉ĺ?żĺ‰šŐ¸ď˜šé¸? ĺƒ˝ ➎
äŽƒâžżĺ€´äŠźëžŤäą°ćŹ˝ćŞłĺ‘”ç§?ć¤?âžżę°‰ĺ?żć¤šä™‚✞⥲朸 ć¤?âžżâšşçş?ç˛ćŽĽâŞ‚âĄ˛îš‰čŻ˘ĺ€´ę°‰ĺ?żĺ¨œă€ˇä˝?询ę¸ćś¸ăŞŽć™‹ 痧朸աää‹’ĺ?“Ő¸âž˛é™—îšŠęťˇăœĽâ°—â°&#x;ĺ§?âˇœŐˇć˘ľé şâŻĽćś¸â¸ˆ
⹒ո⍌㜸朸â°?ĺŠĽĺˆźé™—â›“â™§îšŠ äŽƒçżąä•šä–¤ăœ„ęťˇć€ľ ćś¸č ąĺ€›ă??çŒ°çŹžăŁźćś¸âŻ“ę?ľĺ§?âˇœŐˇă¨—ĺŚ˛ĺ€›âŻ˜ç°–ćś¸ë?‹âŻ˜
ćśŻăŁ—âžƒŐ¸âž˛ă¨ĽéĄťäż˛â›łăź&#x;ę…žĺ€žäžŽć¤šâš›ęťˇĺŚ„ă–ˆâ¤œçš?倛 ⛓㢍ăž?â´€ď˜ˇ
original score of Verdi s Nabucco from the Archivio Storico Ricordi in Milan;
ăž?éŒ’ćś¸â™ŹăœĽă™šä‹‘ęťˇć€ľâşŤä?㪎㽳倛Ղ褑暜ꯂ晋
č–Šă•œçŹžă˘ľâľ„â??ㄤ꣚晋â ćšśâ˝ˆćš&#x;ę¸ă„¤ćś˝ăšťĺ§?âˇœę¤Žă –âĄ˛â°&#x;ă šé?¤
di Poppea. Original material from the 1934 St Petersburg premiere of
աꅽç§?晋㢾ո  珞⛳ç§?Ő‚čœ“äŠ&#x;ćšśćś¸ŐˇéĄĽâ¸ˆ
Őˇĺ§?âˇœîš‰ć…¨äž•ď˜śĺĽšâ¸‚ă„¤ä˝&#x;ĺą›Ő¸ď˜šä–°âšĽäąłç¨‹âœŤĺ§?âˇœâšĽćś¸ć…¨äž•ď˜śĺĽš
displayed outside Russia for the ďŹ rst time.
éŽ™âœŤâ™§âŚ?ëŠŤĺ´žćś¸ď˜śĺ°?ĺľśä’ćś¸ď˜śĺ žé¨—âœŤéľœ äŽƒćś¸ĺ§?âˇœĺ¨œă€ˇăž?錒 ⸂ㄤä˝&#x;ĺą›â™˛âŻ‹ç¨‡ď˜ˇ
é‘Şăž?éŒ’ĺƒ˝ĺ¨œă€ˇâ™łăˆ”â™§â™§âŚ?â&#x;ƒĺ§?âˇœć?€âšşę˛—朸ăŁ?ă˜—ăž?éŒ’ď˜šă¸?çżš
ć?‹â™Źä? ă™šä‹‘ćś¸â™ŹăœĽĺ§?âˇœęťˇć€ľď˜šé›ŠéŒšç˝?ç‘ĺ”Žă–ˆĺ§˜ĺ´Žĺ§?âˇœĺ¨œă€ˇćśŽ
and one of two surviving scores from the ďŹ rst public opera L incoronazione Shostakovich s avant-garde Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk is reunited and
The seven cities and premieres are: Venice - Monteverdi s L incoronazione di
Poppea, 1642; London - Handel s Rinaldo, 1711; Vienna - Mozart s Le nozze
di Figaro, 1786; Milan - Verdi s Nabucco, 1842; Paris - Wagner s Tannhäuser,
ăž?朸ă ?âŚ?ę…žéŠ´ĺ„˜ĺŠ?é…ď˜šä–°äż’č° ä—‚čŽ‡ćśŽăž?âľŒćŽšâžżď˜ˇă¸?ăž?çˆšâœŤĺ§?
1861; Dresden - Strauss Salome, 1905; St Petersburg - Shostakovich s Lady
çˆ˘ĺ‰šď˜śä˝&#x;ĺą›ď˜śč° é Żă„¤çŤ¤ć†˜ă””ç¨‡ĺƒ˝ăĽśâĄŚä•§ę° ĺ§?âˇœă€ˇâ™łĺ‰“â¨€ăŁ?朸
headphones, dynamically changing as you explore the cities and objects, to
âˇœĺƒ˝ăĽśâĄŚçŠĄă –ă˘ľç??č° é Żä•Žä’â˘ľâśžé¸¤ă˘ľä Žă¸˝ćś¸č° é ŻâĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šâ&#x;ƒâżť ćž–ę&#x;Śď˜šä–°ç˝œâ˘Şä–¤ĺ§?âˇœä–¤â&#x;ƒéś¤é“žĺ§˜ĺ´ŽäŽ™ćś°äŽƒćś¸ĺ¨œă€ˇď˜ˇ
Macbeth of Mtsensk, 1934. World-leading opera performances are played via create an evocative and fully immersive sound experience.
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çš?朸ăśç‹˛Ő¸  î™¸îšŠç˘œč˛˝Ő‚ăŞŽć™‹ç—§ćś¸Őˇää‹’ĺ?“Ő¸
  䊟랍Ղ檳呔ç§?朸ա㇍é&#x;?挹ո   䗞 稥倛갞Ղ倛暜⚪倛朸աč›?ĺ?żçšĄŐ¸  翹䕚䖤 ăœ„Ő‚č ąĺ€›ă??çŒ°çŹžăŁźćś¸Őˇă¨—ĺŚ˛ĺ€›âŻ˜ç°–ćś¸ë?‹âŻ˜ćśŻăŁ—
âžƒŐ¸  î™¸ď˜ˇâĄšă€łâ&#x;ƒé¸’éş•çžŽĺ ĽĺŚ‡é˘Łâš†ć˛ęťˇăž…â™§ä¸ ćś¸ĺ§?âˇœé‚?ć€ľď˜šęŚ‘čĄ˝âĄšéŒšćş?厼ä? 㙚䋑ㄤăž?ă…ˇď˜šę°‰ĺ?ż
éżŞĺ‰šĺ‰¤ä¨Ąâˇœäš?ă–’éšśâť‹ď˜šâśžé¸¤â´€â™§ç??ĺľśĺ°?ä’朸耍갉 ë„“ë€żď˜ˇ
ŐˇäŠŻč“‡Ë™äł“ĺŒĄŐ¸ăž?éŒ’âť˝ę§ŒâœŤ â&#x;?âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šéˇ†ĺ˝¸âœŤ ăĽ ă˘ľćŹ´ćś¸č€ˇĺ™ ćŹ°ĺˇ†âšĽćś¸ęĄ ę’łĺ„˜ĺŠ?ď˜šâşŤä?ăĽ ă–ˆ
Tove Jansson (1914-2001)
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äŽƒâžżćś¸äŹ„é&#x;?âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜śé•žâľžäš?朸⿞䨞ć 掼ㄤ剅㟓é?¤
ć‰˜čŠ™ ć?šć?ž
éŽ™ď˜šâš›ďˆŁęŹ—ăž?çˆšâœŤă¨—ă…•ćś¸ĺ‚?ĺŠ?虋㕏ㄤ鸎抇掼➲ ç?łď˜ˇ
é¸?匄ăž?éŒ’éźŠĺ‰šăž?â´€äł“ĺŒĄćś¸č?ˆćŽĽâŤšď˜śę´?兞ㄤꏆćš&#x; ćŽĽď˜šâ°ŚâšĽé?Şă˘ľä–°ĺŠ˘ă–ˆč–Šă•œăž?â´€ď˜ˇäł“ĺŒĄâ™§ćšŹé‹•č?ˆ
äŠšĺƒ˝â™§ âĄ™ćŽĽăšťď˜šă–ˆâ°Śč° é ŻćŹ°ĺˇ†ćś¸ç—§â™§ âŚ?âź§äŽƒ
é…ď˜šăĽ âśžâĄ˛âœŤç??ę˛łă˘ľä–¤ë ‡âžƒćś¸äł„ćŽĽď˜šă¸?⌛ęł?爚 âœŤäł“ĺŒĄäž’âĄ˛äž’ć?€čŽ…ă›šĺŻšâżžăźŠä¨žć˜°ď˜śĺ˛ éŠŻĺ€›âšşçş?
ㄤ噲弚⚺çş?朸䢀ä?žď˜ˇäł“ĺŒĄă–ˆä¨žć˜°ĺŠ?ę&#x;Śâ¤‘ę&#x;šă¨Ľäš‹ ăť¨ă¨—ĺƒˆćś¸ä˝Śâœ˛ď˜šé¸?âŚ?ć 掼䕎é&#x;?çŠĄă –âœŤăĽ éş•âžƒćś¸
č° é ŻăŁ”â´•čŽ…ĺ´Šĺ†ąćś¸äż’ç˜˜ď˜ˇă–ˆâž˛ć™?㕏剅䳄掼朸ăž? çˆšâšĽéŒšćťžă€łâ&#x;ƒéšŽâ™§ĺ§żâœŤé?‘ă¨—ĺƒˆę´?ćƒ?ćś¸éĽąĺ˝‚ď˜ˇ
The Dulwich Picture Gallery presents the ďŹ rst major UK retrospective of work by one of
the most celebrated illustrators of the 20th century, Tove Jansson (1914-2001). Known
internationally as the creator of the Moomin
Tove Jansson, Illustration for the book Comet in Moominland, 1946, wash and indian ink, 15,8 x 15,8 cm, Moomin Museum, Tampere Art Museum Moominvalley Collection. Photo: Finnish National Gallery / Hannu Aaltonen.
ć?€âœŤé›Šâ°—杞ꅞ倞钢é™?é¸?âĄ™ă˘ľäŠžă˘ľč° ćś¸č° é Żăšťď˜š
continues to stretch across generations,
Jansson s wider outputs of graphic illustration
and painting are relatively unseen outside her
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home country of Finland.
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Tove Jansson brings together 150 works to
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reintroduce Jansson as an artist of exceptional
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breadth and talent, tracing the key stages of her proliďŹ c career including her surrealist-
inspired paintings of the 1930s and abstract work of the 60s, her satirical anti-war
cartoons and book jacket designs, as well as
The exhibition opens with Jansson s self-portraits,
the Moomin characters and original comic
been seen before in the UK. She always considered
a comprehensive display of early sketches for strips.
landscapes, and still-lifes, many of which have never herself primarily a painter. During her ďŹ rst decades
as an artist, Jansson produced an astonishing variety of illustrations which reveal Jansson s boldness and staunch opposition to war, fascism, and
麨⾄㣟掼ä?¤ć?€âœłâź§âš†ç§ 剓襽ă ?朸䳄掼㚝⛓♧䊯㣗˙
äł“ĺŒĄčŽŠéłľâœŤâ°Śă–ˆč–Šă•œćś¸ęťˇĺŚ„ăŁ?ă˜—ă”?ęłƒăž?ա䊯㣗˙䳓
ĺŒĄî™ˇ î™¸Ő¸ď˜ˇäł“ĺŒĄă””ć?€âśžâĄ˛ă¨—ĺƒˆé¸?âŚ?ę´?ꏖ䞸 âžżâžƒćś¸ć 掼䕎é&#x;?ă„¤ĺ‰…çĄƒç˝œâ?§éš˜âš†ć˛ď˜šăťœęĽšâ™łăĽ 朸✞ ⥲韊ĺś?âżťâľŒäŽ‚ęŹ—äł„ćŽĽă„¤ĺą˜ćŽĽď˜šć?ç˝œă¸?âŚ›ă–ˆäł“ĺŒĄćś¸ç‰? ă•œč“¸č˛˝â›“ă˘ŤćšąăźŠâš›ĺŠ˘ă€ŒâľŒęĄ ĺ˛¤ď˜ˇ
totalitarianism. The Moomin characters brought
together Jansson s gifts as an artist with her uency as a writer. Jansson began writing stories about the Moomin during the war. A display of original book illustrations provides an insight into the genesis of the Moomin phenomenon.
Tove Jansson, Smoking Girl (Self-Portrait), 1940, Private Collection. Photo: Finnish National Gallery / Yehia Eweis. ŠMoomin Characters
Tove Jansson in her studio ŠPer Olov Jansson
characters and books, a phenomenon which
special pictorial and thematic characteristics of CĂŠzanne's portraiture,
奞尚䚋肖ĺƒ?
versions of the same subject. The chronological development of CĂŠzanne's portraiture is considered, with an examination of the
Self Portrait in a Bowler Hat, 1885-86 by Paul CĂŠzanne Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek, Copenhagen. Photo: Ole Haupt
CĂŠzanne Portraits
including his creation of complementary pairs and multiple
changes that occurred with respect to his style and method, and his understanding of resemblance and identity. The exhibition
also discusses the extent to which particular sitters inected the characteristics and development of his practice.
Works included in the exhibition range from Cezanne's remarkable
portraits of his Uncle Dominique, dating from the 1860s, through to his ďŹ nal portraits of Vallier, who helped CĂŠzanne in his garden and 5JQT ăźéĄŚçˆ™
The National Portrait Gallery is to stage the ďŹ rst
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CĂŠzanne. This major new exhibition, CĂŠzanne
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studio, made shortly before the artist's death in 1906.
exhibition devoted entirely to portraits by Paul
CÊzanne is widely understood to be one of the most inuential
Portraits, brings together for the ďŹ rst time over 50
Impressionist, his unique method of building form with colour,
of CĂŠzanne's portraits from collections across the world.
Portraits previously unseen in the UK include the
artists of the nineteenth century. Generally categorised as a Postand his analytical approach to nature inuenced the art of Cubists, Fauvists, and successive generations of avant-garde artists. Both Matisse and Picasso called CÊzanne the father of us all.'
artist's arresting Self Portrait in a Bowler Hat(1885-
6). Also on UK display for the ďŹ rst time since the
1930s is Boy in a Red Waistcoat(1888-90), one of a identiďŹ ed as Michelangelo de Rosa, and Madame
CĂŠzanne in a Yellow Chair (1888-90) last exhibited
in London in 1936 and 1939 respectively.
âĽƒçš?Ë™ă?ąăźżî™ˇ ♧揰⚼掼麕秉 äŒ´č ą
Paul CĂŠzanne (1839-1906) painted almost 200
ăźżâ›“č ąâŤšŐ¸äąłç¨‹âœŤâ°Śč ąâŤšćŽĽćś¸ç˛ćŽĽćšśä—šâżťâšşę˛—ćšś
portraits during his career, including 26 of himself and 29 of his wife. CĂŠzanne Portraits explores the
âŤšćŽĽď˜šâ°ŚâšĽč?ˆćŽĽâŤš äŒ´ď˜šâ°ŚăŁ—âžƒćś¸ćŽĽâŤš äŒ´ď˜ˇŐˇă?ą
ä—šď˜šâşŤä?âžŽä¨žâśžćś¸âœ˝é…˘č’€ä•™ď˜šâ&#x;ƒâżťăźŠă šâŚ?⚺겗朸㢾 ć™?ĺŠĽâśžâĄ˛ď˜ˇé¸’éş•ăť¤é‹•ă?ąăźżč° é Żę´?ĺ‘”ă„¤âśžâĄ˛ĺ€°ĺ˛ ćś¸
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ă”?ęłƒâœŤă?ąăźżč ąâŤšč° é Żćś¸ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śäš?朎ăž?ď˜ˇăž?éŒ’éźŠéŽŁé”¸
âœŤâ™§â?‰ĺž¸ćšśă–ˆâ™§ăš 玑ä?žâ™łä•§ę° âœŤă?ąăźżč° é ŻăťœéŠ?朸 暜蒀ㄤ朎ăž?ď˜ˇ č–Šă•œă•œăšťč ąâŤšćŽĽ ä?¤ăź&#x;莊 鳾ꝡâŚ?âĽƒçš?Ë™ă?ąăźżč ąâŤšăž?ď˜ˇé¸?
âŚ?ă ?ć?€Őˇă?ąăźżâ›“č ąâŤšŐ¸ćś¸ăŁ?ă˜—ăž?錒ăź&#x;ăž?ⴀ⢾č?ˆďˆŁâš†ć˛ćś¸ 随 䌴ă?ąăźżâśžâĄ˛ćś¸č ąâŤšćŽĽď˜ˇ
é‘Şăž?錒ăž?â´€âœŤâ›“âľšä–°ĺŠ˘ă–ˆč–Šă•œăž?â´€ćś¸Őˇă•Šę°Ľç‹˛äŒ¨č?ˆćŽĽ
⍚ո î™¸îšŠă šĺ„˜ď˜šâ›łĺ‰¤ äŽƒâžżä–•ă˝ ĺŠ˘ĺ‰Žă–ˆč–Šă•œ ăž?ⴀ朸աç‘秋蒀ꟛćŒćś¸ć‘㡛ո î™¸ď˜šé¸?ĺƒ˝ă?ąăźżć?€ ♧é¨čĄ˝ä ‘ăŁ?⾄剪ꡇ朸ć‘ęŤäŽƒä¨žâĄ˛ćś¸çŚşâ´ŞćŽĽâĄ˛â›“â™§ď˜šçŤ¤éş•
éłşé’˘ď˜šé¸?⥙ć‘ęŤäŽƒĺƒ˝ç˘œę&#x;šĺ‰˝ă›‡çš?˙䗞˙çš?čŽ?韊剤ĺ‚?ă–ˆ
äŽƒă„¤ äŽƒĺ‰Žĺ€´â§?äžšăž?ⴀ麕朸ա랔喹♳朸ă?ąăźżăŁ— âžƒŐ¸  î™¸ď˜ˇ
é‘Şăž?錒ăž?ㅡ⺍ä?ă?ąăźż äŽƒâžżć?€â°Śă€ˆă€ˆă˘ľç˘œă˝łâŻ˜ ç˛é†˘ćś¸â´€č’€č ąâŤšćŽĽď˜šâľŒ 䎃ă?ąăźżĺ¨Śâľšâ™śâ›‰ć?€ă•¨ â™¨ă„¤ćŽĽăš”â¸”äŠ›ćŞłę…˝ć™‹ä¨žâĄ˛ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜ˇ
ă?ąăźżé„„ ä‘žĺ˛Œé’˘ ć?€ĺƒ˝âź§â›°âš†ç§ 剓剤䕧 ę° â¸‚ćś¸ćŽĽăšť â›“â™§ď˜ˇâ™§č?›é’˘ć?€âžŽĺƒ˝ä–•â˝Ťé&#x;?ĺ´ŁćŽĽăšťď˜šâ°ŚćŹ˝č’€ă?–ä•Ž â&#x;ƒâżťćŹ˝â´•ĺ?€ĺ€°ĺ˛ 䲞ç˛č?ˆć?ćś¸ć Źćšśĺ€°ĺ˛ ä•§ę° âœŤç”¨ë„“
ĺ´Łď˜śę…żćĄŠĺ´Łâżťä–•âš†ćś¸ćťžă˘ľâľšę?ľč° é Żăšťď˜ˇęź›čŁŚĺ€›ă„¤ćŽ— â¸ˆç¨‹éżŞäŞžă?ąăźżç?–⥲ć¤?âžżç˛ćŽĽâ›“ć˜żďš´ď˜ˇ
Madame CĂŠzanne in a Yellow Chair, 1888-90 by Paul CĂŠzanne Wilson L. Mead Fund, 1948.54, The Art Institute of Chicago
Boy in a Red Waistcoat, 1888-90 by Paul CĂŠzanne National Gallery of Art, Washington. Collection of Mr. and Mrs. Paul Mellon, in Honor of the 50th Anniversary of the National Gallery of Art, 1995.47.5
series of paintings of a young man in Italian clothes
â™śĺƒ˝ä—łć?朸倞鋅é?‘ď˜ˇé¸’éş•â?€ăŁ?⚺겗ç‰&#x;çżą 넓ㄤ䏄é&#x;?ď˜šé‘Şăž?éŒ’ç ‡ç‘–âœŤëžąď˜śćśŻă„¤ćŠŤç˛ćŽĽ ćś¸ă€Ľâ™§ęą†ăš–ď˜šâżśç?–抍蒀䕙ç˛ĺ˛ ď˜ˇ
ć¤?㜸剓ĺ‚?äą°ćŹ˝ćŠŤč’€ĺž¸äşźĺľĽę§¨ćŽĽĺ˛ ćś¸éŠŻĺ€°
喎色靑白皪畍
č° é Żă…ˇé’˛ćŹ°ĺ€´âšĽâš†ç§ ď˜šé¸?ĺƒ˝â™§ç??ⴀ倴贓铇 äŠžâśžé¸¤ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šćšĄćś¸ć?€âœŤâ¨žâľŒë€?ꤑ䗹⚼朸
ę§šä™‚ď˜šâ¨žâľŒä—ąć?‚ĺ€žęż†ď˜ˇä–° âš†ç§ éĽąď˜šč° é Ż ăšťâŚ›ă˝ é¸’éş•âśžâĄ˛ëžąćśŻç¨‡ä˛žâżĄç‘łç śćŽĽâĄ˛âšş ę˛—ă„¤ĺœ“ă•Źä¨žä˛żâ´€ćś¸äŽ‹ä¨žď˜ˇ
â›“ä–•ď˜šéŚŠâ˘ľéŚŠă˘ľćś¸ç§ŤćŠŤč’€ćŽĽâĄ˛ă…ˇé„„âĄ˛ć?€ć Ź ç”¨ćś¸č° é Żă…ˇâ˘ľâśžâĄ˛ď˜ˇäŽ™âŚ?âš†ç§ â&#x;ƒâ˘ľď˜šč° é Ż
This autumn, the National Gallery presents a journey
ăšťâŚ›ă–ˆç˛ćŽĽâšĽé¸’麕垸â&#x;Źç€–ę§¨ćś¸ă˘ŤéŒšâ˘ľéšŽ
through a world of shadow and light: Monochrome:
é ¤č?ˆä§ŽäŽ‹ä¨žď˜šă šĺ„˜čŽ…ć™?ćŽĽď˜śäź˘ä•§ă„¤ę¨śä•§ćś¸
Painting in Black and White. With more than ďŹ fty
倞朎ăž?ćšąâœ˝ç•šć˜°ď˜ˇă šĺžşă–’ď˜šäŹ„é&#x;?ㄤ酤縨č°
painted objects created over 700 years, it is a radical
é Żăšťâ™§ćšŹéżŞé„„ëžąćśŻä¨žď‰šä’¸ď˜ˇćŽšč° é ŻăšťâŚ›äŠş
new look at what happens when artists cast aside the
çŤ¤č…‹ęŚ‘ä ‘â˘ŞćŹ˝â&#x;¤âĄŚâ™§ç??ă€łč…‹ćś¸č’€é”…ĺ„˜ď˜šč’€
colour spectrum and focus on the visual power of
䕙朸國ăŁ&#x;âżžç˝œĺ‰šĺˆżâ&#x;‚➃ęŠ?ë ‡ä§´ćśŽâžƒĺš€ćş ď˜ˇ
black, white, and everything in between.
Paintings and drawings by Old Masters such as Jan van Eyck, Albrecht DĂźrer, Rembrandt van Rijn, and JeanAuguste-Dominique Ingres appear alongside works by some of the most exciting contemporary artists
working today including Gerhard Richter, Chuck Close, Bridget Riley, and an immersive light installation by
5JQT ăźéĄŚçˆ™ ăž?éŒ“ăœĽă–‘ď˜ť/BUJPOBM (BMMFS Zč–‰ă•œă•œăšťćŽĽä?¤
ăž?éŒ“ĺ„—ę&#x;Śď˜ť 0DUPCFS 'FCSVBS Z ĺˆżă˘´âĽŒäœ‚ď˜ťX X X OBUJPOBMHBMMFS Z PSH VL
Olafur Eliasson.
Monochrome reveals fresh insights into the use of
The earliest surviving works of Western art made in grisaille
ďŹ ve themes Sacred subjects, Studying light and shade,
to eliminate distractions, and focus the mind. From the 15th
colour as a choice rather than a necessity. Through
An artistic aesthetic, Challenging other media and
Abstraction, Monochrome addresses a dierent aspect
of painting in black, white and grey, also known as grisaille.
âž›äŽƒçŒ¨ăŁ”ď˜šă•œăšťćŽĽä?¤äŒ&#x;â˘ľâœŤâ™§ăœĽé¸’ä–ƒâŻ•ä•§âš†ć˛ćś¸ĺ ‡çŽ‘ա㋲
蒀랹术ç˛ćŽĽŐ¸ď˜ˇâť˝çżšâœŤâ?€âź§äŽ™â&#x;?钲揰倴 ă˘ľäŽƒâľšćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜š é¸?éŚŤĺ ‡çŽ‘ăź&#x;â&#x;ƒâ™§âŚ?ďˆŁĺ€žď˜śâľšé şćś¸éŒŹä?žćş?ä–Šč° é ŻăšťâŚ›ä–°äŹšĺ”łč’€
é™—ď˜šâľŒę§ŒâšĽĺ€´ëžąćśŻćś¸é‹•éŒ?é źäššď˜šâ&#x;ƒâżťâž?倴â°?蒀⛓ę&#x;Śćś¸â&#x;¤âĄŚă€ł č…‹ď˜ˇ
ĺ‚?ĺŠ?朸ăŁ?äŒŒâŚ›ăĽśäł“Ë™çœ•Ë™č’•âŻ˜ď˜śâš“âš—ď˜śâ§?â¸˝ĺ‰˝ă„¤ă¸žĺ‘”ć™‹ćś¸ĺą˜ćŽĽ
⿝稇䲞⥲ㅡăź&#x;čŽ…ćŽšâ™´ĺ‰“ĺ´žéŹŞćś¸ćŽšâžżč° é Żăšťćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇâ™§ă šăž?â´€ď˜š Ⰼ⚼⺍ä?ĺ‘”ă† ä—žË™ę…˝ä‹žćšśď˜śĺ?†âŻ˜Ë™âŻ˜ĺłŤĺ€›ď˜śä‹’ꅽ㣟暜˙飅⾄朸 âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šâ&#x;ƒâżťă¤šäŹ˜çŹžć™‹Ë™ă™Şâľ„â??ĺŒĄćś¸ĺ°?ĺľśä’ć•šâŻ•é…¤ç¸¨ď˜ˇ
were created in the Middle Ages for devotional purposes,
century onward artists made drawings in black and white to work through challenges posed by their subjects and compositions.
Increasingly, paintings in grisaille were made as independent works of art, complete unto themselves. For centuries artists have challenged themselves to mimic the appearance of stone sculpture in painting, to compete with new
developments in printmaking, photography and ďŹ lm.
Abstract and installation artists have always been drawn to black and white. When artists have ready access to every possible hue, the absence of colour can be all the more shocking or thought-provoking.
Stained Glass Panel with Quarries and a Female Head, about 1320-4, Paris Grisaille glass with silver stain, 59.5 x 39 cm, Š Victoria and Albert Museum, London
Domenico Ghirlandaio or workshop of Andrea del Verrocchio,Drapery Study (possibly study for Saint Matthew and an Angel), about 1477, Brown and black wash heightened with white on brown linen, 26.2 x 17.1 cm, Š Kupferstichkabinett. Staatliche Museen zu Berlin / Photo: JÜrg P. Anders
Monochrome: Painting in Black and White
ę˛—ĺ‹žď˜śâŻ•ä•§ç ‡ç‘–ď˜śč° é Żăť¤çšĄď˜śäŽ‹ä¨žâ°ŚâžŽăŻŻ
Jan van Eyck, The Annunciation Diptych (The Archangel Gabriel; The Virgin Mary), about 1433‒5, Oil on panel, left wing 38.8 × 23.2 cm, right wing 39 × 24 cm, Š Museo Thyssen-Bornemisza. Madrid
Őˇă‹˛č’€Ő¸âŤ„éş¨âœŤäŞžę˛?蒀朸⢪揽⥲ć?€éź‡äšľç˝œ
Reclining Nude, 1919, Oil on canvas, 724 x 1165 mm, Museum of Modern Art, New York
Modigliani čŽŤčżŞé‡Œé˜żĺ°ź
Tate Modern stages the most comprehensive Jeanne HĂŠbutern, 1919, Medium Oil paint on canvas, 914 x 730 mm, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York
Modigliani exhibition ever held in the UK, bringing together a dazzling range of his iconic portraits,
sculptures and the largest ever group of nudes to be
shown in this country. Including almost 100 works, the exhibition Modigliani re-evaluates this familiar ďŹ gure,
looking afresh at the experimentation that shaped his
career and made Modigliani one of the greatest artists of the twentieth century.
A section devoted to Modigliani s nudes is a major highlight. In these striking canvases Modigliani
invented shocking new compositions that modernised
5JQT ăźéĄŚçˆ™
largest group ever seen in the UK, with paintings
ăž?éŒ“ăœĽă–‘ď˜ť5BUF .PEFSO 岲暾ć¤?âžżçš é Žę¸Ź
ďŹ gurative painting. A group of 10 nudes will be the
including Seated Nudeďźˆ1917and Reclining Nude
ďźˆ1919.
ăž?éŒ“ĺ„—ę&#x;Śď˜ť /PWFNCFS ËŠ "QSJM ĺˆżă˘´âĽŒäœ‚ď˜ťX X X UBUF PSH VL
The exhibition begins with the artist s arrival in Paris, exploring the creative environments and elements of popular culture that were
central to his life and work. Inspired by the art of Paul CĂŠzanne, Henri
Toulouse-Lautrec and Pablo Picasso, Modigliani began to experiment 岲暜ć¤?âžżçšĄé Żę¸čŽŠéłľâœŤč–Šă•œé´ťâž›ĺ‰“ďˆŁęŹ—ćś¸čœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łâĄ˛ă…ˇăž? Őˇčœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łŐ¸ď˜šăž?ⴀ朸⥲ㅡ⺍ä?Ⰼ剓Ⱘ垌é’&#x;äš?ćś¸č ąâŤšćŽĽď˜ś
ꧨă?–âżťč–Šă•œé´ťâž›ĺ‰“ăŁ?é‹Šĺž¸ćś¸é†—ë„“ćŽĽâŤšď˜ˇé¸?匄ăž?錒ăž?ⴀ秉
and develop his own distinctive visual language. The exhibition is also reconsidered the role of women in Modigliani s practice,
particularly an important ďŹ gure -poet and writer Beatrice Hastings.
â&#x;?âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šę…žĺ€žé?ąâ ŽâœŤé¸?⥙ć?€âžƒć“żäœŤćś¸č° é Żăšťď˜šćŹ˝ďˆŁĺ€žćś¸ĺ€°ä’
The exhibition concludes with some of Modigliani s best-known
ĺ™ ď˜šâš›â˘ŞâžŽä§ć?€âœłâź§âš†ç§ 剓⨀ăŁ?ćś¸č° é Żăšťâ›“â™§ď˜ˇ
much-needed ďŹ nancial and emotional support during his turbulent
ćş?ä–ŠâžŽä¨žäą°ćŹ˝ćś¸ăťœë€żäŠ›ĺ˛ ď˜šç˝œĺ§ťĺƒ˝é¸?â?‰äŠ›ĺ˛ ä§ă˝ âœŤâžŽćś¸âœ˛ é‘Şăž?錒â&#x;ƒč° é ŻăšťâľŒéş¨äŠźëžŤć?€éĽąë&#x;Šď˜šäąłéŽŁâœŤăźŠâ°ŚćŹ°ĺ´žă„¤âĄ˛ă…ˇéĽą âľŒę…žéŠ´ä•§ę° ćś¸âśžĺ€žćŠ‡ăžŻă„¤ĺ´Šé ¤äż’âť‹âŻ‹ç¨‡ď˜ˇă€ŒâĽƒçš?Ë™ă?ąăźżď˜śâ?Ł
âľ„Ë™ä—žË™ă•Źćš–č˜˜ çš?ćšśâ´ŞâŻ˜ă„¤ä‹Şä‹’ĺłŤË™ćŽ—â¸ˆç¨‹ćś¸ă‰ŹćśŽď˜ščœ“éś”ę…˝
꣚㽳ę&#x;šă¨Ľăťœë€żâš›ä•Žä§č?ˆäŠšć Źćšśćś¸é‹•éŒ?é“ƒéŽŠď˜ˇé‘Şăž?éŒ’â›łę…žĺ€žăť¤ é‹•âœŤčœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łč° é ŻăťœéŠ?⚼朸ăĽ?äš?éŒŹč’€ď˜šă˝?â°Śĺƒ˝â°ŚâšĽâ™§âĄ™ ꅞ銴ăĽ?äš?Ő‚é‘˜âžƒă„¤âĄ˛ăšťç„—çťźçŞŁË™ĺľłĺ€›â™¨ĺ€›ď˜ˇ
depictions of his closest circle. Friends and lovers provided him with life while also serving as models. Jeanne HĂŠbuterne, the mother of
Modigliani s child and one of the most important women in his life. When Modigliani died in 1920 from tubercular meningitis, Jeanne
tragically committed suicide. Tate Modern brings together several
searching portraits of her from Modgliani s ďŹ nal years, which depict her in a range of guises from young girl to mother.
čœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łćś¸é†—ë„“ćŽĽâŤšĺƒ˝ĺŠĽĺŚ„ăž?â´€ćś¸ę…žęą§ä¨Ąď˜ˇă–ˆé¸?â?‰â&#x;‚ âžƒë ‡ćŽŻćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇâ™łď˜ščœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łćśŽĺƒˆâœŤďˆŁĺ€žćś¸ĺœ“ă•Źĺ˛ ď˜šâš›
⢪Ⱘé&#x;?ç˛ćŽĽä–¤â&#x;ƒć¤?âžżâť‹ď˜ˇâ°&#x;剤⺍ä?ա㗂㪨醗넓⍚ ո ㄤաâŚăŞ¨é†—ë„“âŤšî™ˇ î™¸Ő¸ă–ˆâ°‰ćś¸âź§äŒ´é†—ë„“âĄ˛ă…ˇé„„ăž?â´€ď˜š é¸?ĺƒ˝ĺ¨œă€ˇâ™łč–Šă•œăž?â´€é‘Şč° é ŻăšťâĄ˛ă…ˇĺ‰“ă˘ľćś¸â™§ĺŚ„ď˜ˇ
ăž?éŒ’ćś¸çŠĄĺ‹˛éżˆâ´•ăź&#x;ăž?â´€éżˆâ´•čœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łä˛žç˛é¨éźšĺ‰“é‹ˇéľœ
ćś¸âžƒćš&#x;âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜ˇâžŽćś¸ĺ‰Śâżźă„¤ä Śâžƒă–ˆâžŽâš›ćššâ™śă¸žćś¸ćŹ°ĺ´žâšĽçŞ? âœŽâžŽçŤ¤ć†˜ă„¤äž•ä Žâ™łćś¸ä˝…ä°ď˜šă šĺ„˜âżśĺƒ˝âžŽćś¸ĺž¸ćšśď˜ˇâ°ŚâšĽćŁ‡
㧚˙éĽ&#x;ä‹’ćšśă˝łĺƒ˝čœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łăˇ›ăśŠćś¸ĺŤ˘é‹ˇď˜šă šĺ„˜â›łĺƒ˝âžŽćŹ° 崞⚼剓ꅞ銴朸ăĽ?äš?â›“â™§ď˜ˇćŽš äŽƒčœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łĺ¨Śĺ€´çŠĄĺ‘? äš?čˆĄčŠ™ć‹¨ĺ„˜ď˜šćŁ‡ă§šâ›łä?˛ä˘”ă–’éź‡äšľâœŤč?ˆĺŞšď˜ˇĺ˛˛ćšść¤?âžżçšĄé Ż ę¸ăž?â´€âœŤčœ“éś”ę…˝ęŁšă˝łĺ‰“ä–•ĺ¨”ĺ‰˘ę…˝â&#x;ƒăĽ ć?€âž˛ă˜—䨞ç˛ćś¸č ą
âŤšď˜šćŽĽęŹ—âšĽâžŽä¨žäą°ćŹ˝ćś¸ęĽťćťšĺ˛ ăź&#x;㼠酤勲ä§äŽƒé°‹ăźąăĽ?ㄤ卢 鋡朸䕎é&#x;?ď˜ˇ
Andreas Gursky, Amazon, 2016, Š Andreas Gursky/DACS, 2017. Courtesy: Sprßth Magers
Andreas Gursky
ĺŽ‰ĺžˇçƒˆäşžć–Ż ĺ?¤çˆžć–Żĺ&#x;ş The Hayward Gallery stages the ďŹ rst major retrospective in a
UK institution of the work of acclaimed German photographer Andreas Gursky, Bahrain I, 2005, Š Andreas Gursky/DACS, 2017.,Courtesy: Sprßth Magers
Andreas Gursky (Germany, 1955). Widely regarded as one
of the most signiďŹ cant photographers of our time, Gursky
is known for his large-scale, often spectacular pictures that
portray emblematic sites and scenes of the global economy and contemporary life.
The exhibition Andreas Gursky will feature approximately 60
to the vast distribution centre shown in Amazon (2016), and from the sea of
é‘Ş ăž? 錒 ăž? â´€âœŤ č° é Ż ăšť 剓 襽 ă ? 朸 ⥲ ă…ˇď˜š
the boundaries of the medium. Gursky s art is driven by an
eerily empty display shelves in Prada II(1997) his images provide a sweeping
č˜&#x;幎 **ո î™¸ď˜śŐˇ 錄 秚ç‰&#x; 䀼 äął
through to his most recent work, which continues to push interest, and insight, into forms of collective existence and includes depictions of massive man-made structures and
encyclopedia of life.
of our faith in the factual veracity of images. As he has remarked, today, reality can only be shown by constructing it .
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Often employing a bird s-eye perspective, these large-format
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an abundance of precisely captured details, all of which are uncannily in focus.
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known works including Paris, Montparnasse (1993), Rhine II
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visual record of our age.
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candy-coloured budget items featured in of 99 Cent II, Diptych (2001) to the
huge gatherings of people in nightclubs, factories, arenas, and vast landscapes. As he has stated: I only pursue one goal: the
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From the frenzied stock exchange seen in Chicago Board of Trade III (2009)
of the artist s ground-breaking photographs, from the 1980s
Thomas Ruff: Photographs 1979–2017
Alfredo Jaar: The Garden of Good and Evil
27 September 2017 ‒ 21 January 2018 Whitechapel Gallery
14 October 2017‒8 April 2018 Yorkshire Sculpture Park
Dalí / Duchamp Royal Academy of Arts 7 October 2017 ‒ 3 January 2018
Rose Wylie 29 November 2017 ‒ 4 February 2018 Serpentine Sackler Gallery
Red Star Over Russia: A Revolution in Visual Culture 1905-55
Everything At Once October ‒ December 2017 Lisson Gallery x The Vinyl Factory
8 November 2017 ‒ 18 February 2018 Tate Modern
Soutine’s Portraits: Cooks, Waiters and Bellboys
Drawn in Colour: Degas from the Burrell 20 Septembr 2017 ‒ 1 April 2018 National Gallery
19 October 2017 ‒ 21 January 2018 Courtauld Gallery
Ferrari: Under the Skin 15 November 2017 15 April 2018 Design museum
Scythians: warriors of ancient Siberia
14 September 2017 ‒ 14 January 2018 British Museum
DIGITAL ART: A META-MODERN VIEW?
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In June 2015, renowned new media art curator, Christiane Paul
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of this fundamental book, not only gives evidence of how rich
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re-edited her book Digital Art for the third time. The new edition the practices potentially labelled as digital art are, but it also indicates the constant need for new theoretical tools. In the
introduction, Paul explains that the term digital art has become
an umbrella for such a broad range of artistic works and practices that it simply cannot encompass a uniformed set of aesthetics. If the term digital art seems so elusive in describing a specific set
of practices, one might wonder why we would choose it as the
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editorial line of this issue?
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The idea of selecting digital art as a special feature is twofold.
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First, it is precisely the nature and capacity of the term to
be able to include such a broad variety of practices, which
ubiquitously blur the boundaries between the gallery space and the computer. The idea is also to acknowledge and embrace the paradoxes within all the works that can be classified as digital
art. Our ambition for this issue is to generate a fruitful, playful,
and dynamic set of conversations between curators, artists and collectives. Therefore practices embracing the term digital art
will coexist alongside critical views of the term. Curator Hannah
Redler, for example, who has been interviewed for this issue, will explain why the term digital art might be too deterministic. By
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Lynn Hershman Leeson, Seduction of a Cyborg, 1994, DVD with sound, still image, 6.48mins, ZKM Collection © (2015) ZKM Center for Art and Media, Karlsruhe, © Lynn Hershman Leeson
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referring to the technology that supports it, digital art takes on a new meaning
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In 2012, Art Historian Claire Bishop wrote for Artforum with a famous essay
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to pay new attention to the speciďŹ cities of the technology but also, with its
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nature, and overlooks the digital revolution and its impact on everyday life.
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and appears almost as a statement. The term deliberately crystallises a will
historical undertone, a will to understand contemporary practices by looking at the subterranean relations that connects them to previous incarnations of art and technology.
This is why it has been decided to, under the umbrella of digital art, map out
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the practices which are engaging with digital technology, and to reect on the
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emphasis o the speciďŹ cities of the technology to a more temporal deďŹ nition,
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historical precedents of digital art. If new media, in its denomination, shifts the
the term does not clarify what constitutes the newness of the technology. One can see digital art as a framework, which acknowledges and absorbs previous embodiments of art and technology, but which nonetheless inscribes it in a contemporary context.
To explore this question further, one of the features of the issue is the interview of Omar Kholeif, curator in chief of the Electronic Superhighway (2016-1966)
exhibition held at the Whitechapel Gallery. This ambitious show sets a historical survey of proto and post-internet art, in a process of curatorial analepsis. This issue and the exhibition itself looks at digital art, as it is re-deďŹ ned by both
today s economical context and yesterday s experiments with computers. The
non-didactic yet critical space that the curators of the exhibition have managed to create is worth examining. Yet, their exhibition seems to have received
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polarised reviews from experts in the ďŹ eld; as is evidenced by digital media
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an ironic guide in which he spells out 11 tips for curators. If the author criticises
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theorist Mathew Fuller and his critique for Mute. The author wrote his review as the exhibition Electronic Superhighway for its lack of scholarly accuracy and
omitting certain artists, such as Alexei Shulgin, one response could be that the show takes a screen capture of past and present practices alike, as found in today s irregular online environment.
The show could be read as an example of the epistemological limitations of the internet, both as a curating platform and as a research tool. After the interview with Omar Kholeif, it becomes clear that one of the intentions for the show
was to include those entangled and at times contradictory online concerns
as a way of reecting the relationship between art and network technologies. Fuller also starts his critique by pointing at how, as the exhibition unfolds, the inverse pyramid of art shown becomes smaller and the rooms get emptier as less work stands in for more art . Perhaps, as the works shown towards
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â™˛éŒŹâ™§ĺžşéŚŠâ˘ľéŚŠăźď˜šä¨źę&#x;ŚéŚŠâ˘ľéŚŠç‘ ď˜šă””ć?€éŚŠâ˘ľéŚŠăźąćś¸âĄ˛
coined.
MutualArt.com, writer Natalie Hegert provides a complementary perspective by underlining that, despite the fact that digital has become more central to contemporary ďŹ ne art practices, we are still struggling to articulate what it
means to think and see digitally. This is a struggle that is rendered more diďŹƒcult by the ever-changing nature of the digital landscape. The contemporary
pieces from 2000 to 2016 displayed at Electronic Superhighway reect this
éŒ?â¤‘ĺƒ˝ď˜šćŽšâžżč° é Żćś¸ä‹’ăž?ĺƒ˝âź§â´•ă”Žę¨ˆćś¸ď˜šĺŠĽé‘ŞćŹ°ä˝Şćś¸ĺ„˜ ę&#x;Śéş•ć‡?ă?źä˝ŞäĽ°âš›ĺ°?ĺ‰¤ă–ˆç˜źăž?âšĽéĽąâĄ˛ćŹ˝ď˜šç˝œâĽŒäœ‚ćś¸ĺ˛Œć†â›ł ĺŠ˘ä–¤âľŒč´–ć¤šď˜ˇé¸?ç??ăž?éŒ’â™łéżˆâ´•ę…ˇćŹ˝ď˜šă šĺ„˜â›łé„„ăş˘âš—ä¸â´€
ćś¸ďšłęŚ‘ĺ Ľĺž¸ä’ďš´ď˜šă€łâ&#x;ƒé„„ćş?ä§ĺƒ˝ä–•ă””暜珪倰ä’朸♧âŚ?ćšś
ä–„ď˜ˇç„ˇăťœď˜šăĽśćŽ—ă˘šĺ…œă„¤ăŁ?é şË™ă‹Žĺ€›âľ„ćšśă–ˆ äŽƒä¨žé“žćś¸ď˜š ă–ˆâ™§âŚ?ă• ç˛•čĄ˝âžƒäŠ¨âľ–ă…ˇę…žĺ€žé“ƒăžŻâť‹ă„¤ę…žĺ€žâ˘ŞćŹ˝ćś¸č° é Żăťœ éŠ?ăŁ?ćŠ‡ăžŻâ™´ď˜šâž˛âśžäš?ㄤ⥲ç˝?é¨â&#x;¨äŠşçŤ¤ĺƒ˝éş•âżĄćś¸éŒšë&#x;ŠâœŤď˜ˇ
ăźŠďšłäž¸ăśśč° é Żďš´â™§é‘‚ćś¸ę…žĺ€žâ˘ŞćŹ˝â›łĺƒ˝ć?€âœŤčŽ…䖕㔔暜珪 č° é Żďš´ĺšŒä™‚äŹ˜ę&#x;šé¨…ę¨†ď˜šâš›ä–°ĺšŒä™‚â™łäŞžä–•ă””ćšśçŹŞč° é Żä¨žéŠ´
寚é„ćś¸ĺŒŒéŠŻćş?ä§ĺƒ˝ĺ¨œă€ˇä’‚çłľă„¤ä•§ę° ćś¸â™§ç??ĺ€°ĺ˛ ď˜ˇâ°¨ë„“
â˘ľé“žď˜šĺŠĽĺŠ?âšşę˛—ä ‘ĺŚ?äŽ‹ä¨žä–•ă””ćšśçŹŞč° é Żä&#x;?ĺ˛ âšĽćś¸ćšąăźŠâšş
çş?ď˜ˇç—§â™§âžżćś¸çŹŞçŞ„č° é ŻăšťäŤ’äŹŠăŻŻë„“ćšśćŽŻäš?é¸?ç??éŒšä™‚ď˜šĺ§ť ăĽśč° é Żă€ˇăˇ¸ăšťâĄŚă?ąâľ„äŠŻă–ˆŐˇč° é Żâ›“ä–•Ő¸âšĽé?‘ę…źćś¸é˝Ąĺžşď˜š ę…ˇćŹ˝é–€ă˘ľę§šâœĽć?‚äŽ¸ćś¸č° é ŻăťœéŠ?ă€ŠâžżâœŤă¸?ď˜ˇâĄŽĺƒ˝ď˜šé¸?é…ę…ˇ
ćŹ˝ďšłäž¸ăśśč° é Żďš´ćś¸ĺŻšăš âľąĺƒ˝éŠ´ăŽ˛é‘‘ă–ˆćŽšâžżč° é ŻăťœéŠ?朸Ⰹ éżˆĺ&#x; 用ä¸ă ˘ĺžŚď˜šä˛żâ´€â™§âŚ?㢾垺䎂č?Šď˜šă–ˆé¸?é…ď˜šé“ƒéŽŠćś¸â˘ŞćŹ˝
⥲ć?€â™§ç??㯯âž?ď˜šĺƒ˝ç¨&#x;ĺ‘?ĺ€´ĺš€â°…âœŤé?‘䞸㜜㕏兞犉ä§ä§â´•ćś¸ ă›‡ç‡Šâ™łćś¸ď˜ˇăť¤é‹•âž›ăŁ”ä§ŽâŚ›âĄŚâ&#x;ƒć¤šé?‘♧âŚ?äž¸ăśśă•ŹâŤšč…‹ăŁ ä ‘
ä¸âžŠëž†ď˜šâ¤‘ĺƒ˝ä§ŽâŚ›ä‹žĺŠ†ăźŠäž¸ăśśč° é Żćś¸ćš&#x;颜❋ㄤ⿞ćš&#x;颜❋
éş•çŽ‘éšŽé ¤ĺš€â°…ć¤šé?‘ď˜ˇä¨žé–—âżžćš&#x;é˘śâť‹ď˜šĺƒ˝é¸’éş•ä–°ĺž¸äşźçŚşçŞĄ âľŒçŽĄç„şéş•çŽ‘ăťœć¤?ćś¸ď˜ˇâĄŽĺƒ˝ď˜šé¸?âŚ?éş•çŽ‘éźŠĺƒ˝ăś¸ă–ˆćš&#x;é˘śâť‹ď˜š
â˝°â˘Şĺƒ˝ĺ‰“ä—‚ę§šćś¸çŽĄçŽ‘çŠĄĺœ“â›łĺƒ˝ăś¸ĺ€´â™§âŚ?ăťœë„“ďšłć¸ąăśŠďš´â›“
â°‰ď˜šç˝œé¸?â?‰çŠĄĺœ“⛓䨞â&#x;ƒăś¸ă–ˆď˜šâ›łéźŠĺƒ˝é¸’éş•âžżé‚? ㄤ 朸ꨜ 彂ę&#x;šęĄ ćś¸éšśâť‹ăťœć¤?ćś¸ď˜ˇé“žâľŒä? ď˜šä§ŽâŚ›ćś¸ç”¨ăœĽď˜šă˝ ĺƒ˝éŠ´ă–ˆč° é Żă„¤äŞŽé ŻăťœéŠ?⚼ꅞ倞䒊用ăš?ë„“ă„¤âšşë„“ćś¸ăźŠé‘¨ď˜ˇ
朸♧âŚ?겗ć?€Őˇă””ćšśçŹŞâ›“ä–•č° é Żćś¸éş‰ä¨Ąď˜śĺĽšâ¸‚ă„¤ĺ?żéŚąŐ¸ćś¸
ă€ˇă„¤äŞŽé Żă€ˇâ™łâ°¨ĺ‰¤ĺžŚé’&#x;äš?ćś¸ĺ„˜âľ ď˜ˇăĽśĺ?“铞术䞆㛔朸갼㞾 掼ä?¤ĺ‰¤é§ˆăŁ ćś¸č° é Żă…ˇăž?â´€ç‘ ę&#x;Śď˜šé˝Ąëž†ă–ˆéŒšćş?ç˝?ęŹ—âľšď˜šé¸? â?‰âĄ˛ă…ˇă–ˆĺšŒä™‚â™łâ¤‘č…‹ăŁ ĺˆżâ¸ˆëŠŤĺ´žď˜šă¸?⌛襆â&#x;żćś¸äŞŽé Żä§´é?Ş
韊〳â&#x;ƒçŞ?ă¸?⌛äŒ&#x;⢾♧ë&#x;Šä§ƒčŽ?朸ĺľäœ‚ď˜šé¸¤ä§âŻ˜č&#x;›ć™‹Ë™ćŽ—㢚 ĺ…œä¨žé–—ćś¸ćŽšâžżč° é ŻâšĽćś¸ďšłäž¸ăśśâ´•é„ďš´ď˜ˇ
äž¸ăśśćś¸çŠĄĺœ“ď˜šâ°ŚĺŠĽé˘śâ˝żĺƒ˝ĺž¸äşźćś¸ď˜šâš›âš‚ä™?é‹•âœŤäž¸ăśśęŹ ă„?
that contributes to the digital divide in contemporary art that Claire Bishop has
contemporary art practices. In her well observed review of the exhibition for
äŽƒâžżî™¸ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇäŠşçŤ¤é„„ä˝?âĄ˛â˝ˆćš&#x;ę¸čŻ˘ă…ˇď˜šâ°&#x;ă šä§ć?€č° é Ż
ĺš˘ĺ˜˝ă–’ęĄŞę…źď˜ˇâ›łé?Şď˜šă–ˆăž?錒č?†éľœçŠĄĺ‹˛éżˆâ´•î™ˇéŠźčŚˆ ď˜ś ㄤ
of art and technology. If the ratio of space/artwork in the upper galleries of the viewer, their technological obsolescence might tint them with a nostalgic hue
gains an aesthetic of its own and becomes available for a nostalgic re-use in
é¸?â?‰âĄ˛ă…ˇďˆŁéżŞé„„ä˝žă–ˆćŽĽä?¤ćś¸â™§č´Ťăž?ä‘źď˜šé¸?çŞ?錚ćş?ç˝?ćś¸ä Ž
ä§ŽâŚ›ä˛żâ´€ď˜šďšłäž¸ăśśč° é Żďš´ă˝ ĺƒ˝ĺ€žćś¸ę–?ęą§ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›â›“ä¨žâ&#x;ƒćŹ˝âŻ•
ă–ˆ äŽƒď˜šč° é Żĺ¨œă€ˇăˇ¸ăšťâŻ˜č&#x;›ć™‹Ë™ćŽ—ă˘šĺ…œć?€Őˇč° é Żé”¸ă ˘Ő¸
Whitechapel Gallery might allow the pieces to conceptually breathe for the
In her article she describes how once a medium has become obsolete, it
äž¸ăśśĺľ ćƒ?ă˘ľéšśćś¸ĺŠĽé˘śď˜šéšśä–¤ĺˆżâ¸ˆä—‚ę§šď˜ˇŐˇäž¸ăśśë„žé¸ â°—é¨&#x;Ő¸
ㅡ腋㣠ä§ć?€âžżé‚?ďš´ď˜šç˝œé¸?ç??ć¤?é&#x;?âżśĺƒ˝ăĽśâĄŚćŹ´ćŹ°ćś¸â˝żĺ°?剤
the end of the exhibition (covering the 60s 70s and 80s) have already been
established as museum pieces, as identiďŹ able moments in the common history
on why contemporary art despite being digital in structure is analogue in
ăť¨âœŤâ™§çœ?剤ă ?ćś¸äż’ç•Žď˜šé”“é”¸âľŒć?€âžŠëž†ćŽšâžżč° é Żę§Şć?剤襽 âżťâ°ŚăźŠĺ‚ˆäŒ˘ćś¸ä•§ę° ď˜ˇă–ˆăĽ ćś¸äż’ç•Žé…ď˜šăĽ ä˛žéś¤âœŤéş•ĺ„˜ćś¸ăŻŻ
ë„“ăĽśâĄŚć ˝ä–¤č?ˆé¨ćś¸çšĄăˇ¸ď˜šâš›ă–ˆćŽšâžżč° é ŻăťœéŠ?âšĽé„„ćŽšâĄ˛ä§ƒ
čŽ?äŠ›ĺŞŻę…žĺ€žâ˘ŞćŹ˝ď˜ˇç˝œâĄ˛ăšťăŤŤă??蛂˙銯呔暜㝨⥲朸♧çœ?噲 â°¨éŒšăťŒâ¸‚ćś¸äż’ç•Žé…ď˜šâ›łä˛żâ´€â™§âŚ?é…˘âŻ?äš?ćś¸éŒšë&#x;Šď˜šâ˝°ę§Şć?
䞸㜜䊺獤ä§ć?€ćŽšâžżč° é ŻăťœéŠ?ćś¸âšĽä—ąď˜šâĄŽä§ŽâŚ›âŁœčŽ?ć?‚ĺ˛ ĺš˘
ăˇ¸ęŚĄăŒˆď˜šä ‘ă–ˆ äŽƒę…žĺ€žăž?劆䕎ä’âšşçş?ď˜ˇĺ‚?ă–ˆäŽƒâ´˛6$ĺ‰šé™žâ™łď˜šâşŤä?č° é Żć¤šé”¸äž†äą‡âŻ˜ĺ€›â™¨Ë™ĺ€›ă??â˝“ç˘œć™‹ă–ˆâ°‰ćś¸ ăźçŠ‰ä˛żâ´€ď˜šę§Şć?ĺ°Žăş‘âœŤä–Žę&#x;€ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śď˜šâĄŽĺƒ˝ä•Žä’âšşçş?䧴é?Şâ§Š
ä–¤âą„ĺŚ„ăť¤é‹•ď˜šă šĺ„˜ď˜šâžŽâŚ›ä’¸ćŹ˝ä? ăš ĺ€›ă›‡ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇé“žĺƒˆď˜šä•Ž ä’âšşçş?腋㣠넓ć¤?ĺš€âľ ćś¸çˆ˘ĺ‰šă„¤ä˝&#x;ĺą›éŒšë&#x;Šď˜ˇă›‡ĺ€´ĺ§˝ď˜šĺŠĽĺŠ? âšşę˛—é¸’éş•ăť¤é‹•ćś¸éŒŹä?žď˜šéŒšăťŒéŒšë&#x;Šă„¤ĺ´ŠçŽ‘ĺƒ˝ăĽśâĄŚé„„é‹•éŒ?âť‹
ăƒ„ć¤?ćś¸ď˜ˇč–Šă•œč° é ŻăšťäŠŻęź›ĺ–€ă„¤âŻ˜ę¨Žëžąä—žćś¸é‹•éŒ?镞⾞⥲ㅡ â¤‘ĺƒ˝â™§â˘żď˜ˇă šĺ„˜ď˜šâ§Šä–¤ĺ˛¤ä ‘ćś¸ĺƒ˝ď˜šă–ˆŐˇę¨śăśŠë„žé¸ â°—é¨&#x;ո꣥
äŒ&#x;ćś¸ĺ‰…âšĽď˜šĺ‰¤â°?çœ?äż’ç•Žâ›łĺƒ˝ęĄ ĺ€´é‹•éŒ?ć¤?é&#x;?ćś¸ď˜ˇâ°ŚâšĽâ›“â™§ď˜š ⚛䢀䕧⍚é—?äŒŒč’•ëœŠâ˝“Ë™äŠźć™‹ĺ–€ä˛żę„ éšĄç˝?卌âŚ?䞸㜜㕏⍚
éżŞĺƒ˝â™§âŚ?âŤšç¨‡ďš´ď˜ˇç˝œč–Šă•œč° é Żăšťă„¤âĄ˛ăšťĺ‘”äŹ˜ă¨—Ë™ă† â&#x;żä—ž âľąä¸â´€ďšłâŤšç¨‡çşˆâ˘Şä–¤ä§ŽâŚ›ă€łâ&#x;ƒéˇ´éş•ăž“ä?Œď˜šç•€ă–ˆę–?깧䨞贖
ćś¸âĄ™ç¸¨ďš´ď˜šé¸?â˘Şä–¤ä§ŽâŚ›äšŠĺ‰¤ă˘ľę…žé‹•éŒŹď˜ˇă””ĺ§˝ď˜šâŤšç¨‡ä§âœŤé“ƒ
éŽŠď˜šâ˘Şä–¤éŒšćťžč…‹ăŁ éšŽâ°…ă˘ľăžľć¤?ăťœď˜šä¨žâ&#x;ƒď˜šä§ŽâŚ›éź‡äšľĺ˛¤ę…žâŤš ç¨‡ćś¸âĄ˛ćŹ˝ď˜šé›ŠéšĄç˝?乳程鋕éŒ?ă„¤ĺ€°ĺ˛ ćś¸ă˘ľę…žéŒŹä?žď˜ˇ
Installation View of Electronic Superhighway at Whitechapel Gallery
Nam June Paik, Internet Dream, 1994, Video sculpture, 287x380x80cm, ZKM Collection Š (2008) ZKM Center for Art and Media Karlsruhe, photo: ONUK (Berhard Schmitt) Š Nam June Paik Estate
䲞ç˛é˝Ąâ?‰čŽ…äž¸ăśśçŒ°äŞŽćśŽćŹ°ęĄ â¤šćś¸č° é ŻăťœéŠ?ď˜šâš›ă”?ęłƒé˝Ąâ?‰
struggle, for they are all contained within the first room of the gallery, giving
here to pay attention to the pixel as a way of letting
by definition the filter of time hasn t played its role in curation, and where the
different approaches.
the viewer a sense of the difficulty in curating contemporary fine art, where
the reader explore multiple points of views and
overflow of information has yet to be processed. This randomness at play in
some parts of the exhibition and pinned down by Mathew Fuller, can be seen
The current context of media theory and art
David Joselit remarked in 2012, originality and authorship are bygone ideas in
digital or the post-human, and consequently the
as a characteristic of the post-internet approach. Indeed, as both Bishop and
criticism revolves around concepts of the post-
departure from the visuals they imply. If this is true,
appropriation of artefacts.
then this issue sets up a dialogue between the
ubiquity of digital technology in the everyday and
The re-appropriation of the term digital art is also a way of taking some
a new form of medium specificity or, as Rosalind
distance away from the term post-internet art and to conceptually see a set of
Krauss called it, technical support (2010: 37). The
continuations and influences where post-internet art advocates ruptures. More
commodification of online information, that one
specifically, this special issue aims at challenging the relativism embodied in the
witnesses in today s cognitive capitalism and the
notion of post-internet art. The notion of medium specificity was rejected by
experience economy, invites a displacement of her
the first generation of net-artists and has been substituted by various forms of
concept of technical support into another field.
discursiveness in art practices, as explained by art historian Davis Joselit in After
Art. However, the decision to adopt the term digital art, here, is an attempt to
One of the reasons that accounts for the digital
a hybrid platform where the use of language as a medium is anchored into
the traditional resistance of digital art to be
set a few pointers within the realm of contemporary practices, and to propose
divide, described by Claire Bishop, also lies in
a deep understanding of what constitutes a digital image. Thinking back
commercialised and to fall under conditions of
to an understanding of what a digital image can signify today is a wish to
spectatorship set up by art institutions. As Bishop
gain a deeper comprehension of both the processes of materialisation and
remarks, the potential endless multiplication
dematerialisation at play in digital art. Dematerialisation is a process of shifting
of the digital images goes against the notion
from analogue systems to coding. There is, however, still some materialisation,
of rarity crucial to the commercialisation of an
as even the most sophisticated java script structures are locked in a physical
artwork. The architecture of the web in net art
box and their existence is thanks to a variation of electrical switches symbolised
challenges traditional ideas of what an artwork
in zeros and ones. In the end, the position adopted here is an attempt to re-
visually represents. Yet, it is striking to observe
that within Electronic Superhighway, many of the
establish a dialogue between the object and the subject in art and technology
recent examples of works selected are embodied in
practices.
traditional medium, be it photograph, painting, or
sculpture. What does it say about post-internet art? Is
Digital art then is proposed as a new lens. The optical metaphor is intended
here as a way of re-envisioning what formalism can be in 2016. At a conference held earlier this year at UCL, titled Playing Games, Power and Pleasure in Art
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㥶卓䭭䖕㔔暶笪谁遯⢵铞⿶僽䙦랆㔐✲ヤ䖕㔔暶笪谁遯僽♶僽䭸谁遯㹻란ⵄ㖒䖰
pointed out that the notion of formalism, which has been dismissed for a while,
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넓♳鸏僽♶僽♧珏䖰Ⰹ鿈仠✥侸㶶谁遯㉂噠⻋涸⨞岁䫈䧴僽谁遯莅猰䪮㻜뀿⚥䗱
After the Internet, a panel with professor of art theory Kerstin Stakemeier,
was perhaps worth examining again, and citing Kandinsky s work, formalism
had the capacity to embed poignant social and political ideas. Accordingly, this issue will observe the ways in which ideas and processes are visually conveyed. We examine the visual irony at play in the work of British artists Thomson &
Craighead for one example. It is worth noticing that, in the book accompanying Electronic Superhighway s exhibition, two essays are concerned with visual
phenomena. One of them, by lecturer in moving image Erika Balsom, reminds the reader that every digital image is a pixel (44:2016). According to British
artist and writer Graham Harwood, clusters of pixels enable us to dive through our screens and stand in the position occupied by the lens (Harwood, 2008:
215) and as such allows a multiplicity of viewpoints. Thus, the pixel becomes
language, allowing the viewer to enter a multi-layered reality, hence the choice
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涸䖕糒罏⦛荈격痘ざ谁遯䋑㜥宠涸倰䒭շꨶ㶩넞鸠Ⱇ騟ո雊➃錏䖤剤馱涸㖒倰㖈 倴㸐⡂⛖㖈鸏Ⰽ珏用㜥䴸仗㸐㤮㹁✫倞㯯넓谁遯涸㛇瀖㖈鸏酭♧❉⟃䖃谁遯 㻜驏⚥剤ⵄ〳㕬涸걆㚖彗鹎✫刿㣐涸㣔㖒䖰罜㉬✫兜⿻⻋ㄤ㉂噠⻋涸鹎玑鸏酭 䧴鏪㽠僽腋㣁䪪ⵌ⯋植➿䚍涸㖒倰
post-internet art a situation where the artist astutely borrows tactics from, for instance, computer art and applies them to a medium ready to be consumed by the art market? Is this a way of disrupting the
commodification of digital art from within? Or is one witnessing the heirs of, for instance E.A.T., willingly complying with the demands of the art market? One of the interesting things about Electronic
Superhighway is the way in which it seems to
殗㢚兜䨾閗涸侸㶶ⴕ鄭瑖Ⱖ⾲㔔⛓♧⛳㖈倴⫄窡
oscillate between these two positions. It represents a
ⵖ㥠钢捀侸㶶䕧⫹悴㖈涸搂侸䗂ⵖ〳腋ㄤ谁遯ㅷ㉂
where a selection of what used to be a rather niche
涸㼩倴侸㶶谁遯㉂噠⻋鄄谁遯堥圓ⷔ㹁錚溏哭⟝涸䫼
噠⻋涸ꅾ銴哭⟝Ղ獺緄䚍Ղ僽胝麥罜꼦涸谁遯笪 畀涸䒊鏤䮋䨞✫谁遯ㅷ鋕錏邍麨涸⫄窡錚럊⡎僽곏
罜僒鋅涸շꨶ㶩넞鸠Ⱇ騟ո♳鼇ⴀ涸鏪㢵鵜劍涸⡲ㅷꅷ
欽涸➠僽⫄窡涸㯯넓♶盘僽伢䕧粭殥鼩僽ꧨ㝖鸏
cornerstone in the representation of new media art, field of art practices has developed a broader reach and as such started a process of popularisation and commercialisation. This, is perhaps where metamodernity can be found.
Aristarkh Chernyshev, Loading, 2007, Custom LED Panel, 50x6cm, Courtesy the artist and XL Gallery, Moscow © Aristarkh Chernyshev
a context where practices revolve around the re-contextualisation and re-
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Jon Thomson and Alison Craighead work across video, sound, sculpture,
installation and online space, using technology as a means to reformulate fundamental human questions for contemporary times. Through
sensitive appropriation of images, texts, and data from online sources, the artists produce generous, lyrical works that both exercise the dramatic conventions of cinema and examine the changing socio-political
㋎䛸˙埔㨗喀ㄤ蒕蛂喀˙ꨎ呔랹䗞朸✞⥲騗錊䕧⍚耍갉
ꧨă?–î™—é…¤ç¸¨ă„¤çŽ â™łç‘ ę&#x;Śď˜šâžŽâŚ›äš˛ĺ€´âľ„ćŹ˝äŞŽé Żď˜šâ˘Şâ›“âĄ˛ć?€â™§ç??
ę…žĺ€žé‘Łę…źćŽšâž›âžƒę˛łă›‡ĺŠĽă‰?ę˛—ćś¸äŠ›ĺŞŻď˜ˇé¸’éş•ăź&#x;ă–ˆçŽ ćś¸ă•ŹâŤšî™—äż’
ăśśî™—äž¸äş™ă„¤â°ŚâžŽéĄťĺ˝‚éšŽé ¤ä˝ľęŒ´ćś¸äŽąćŹ˝ď˜šč° é Żăšťâśžé¸¤â´€éžŽâžŠćś¸
äŤ‰äž•âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šĺ‚‚éşŒćŹ˝âœŤę¨śä•§é“ƒéŽŠćś¸ä¨Ąâˇœäš?ď˜šă šĺ„˜âżśĺ˘žé‹•âœŤâĽŒäœ‚
ĺ„˜âžżçˆ˘ĺ‰šä˝&#x;ĺą›çŠĄĺœ“ćś¸éšśâť‹ď˜ˇă–ˆâžŽâŚ›ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇâšĽď˜šĺ„˜ę&#x;Śä§âœŤę§¨ă?–
structures of the Information Age. In their works, time is treated with
ăšťäŠ›â™łćś¸âž˛ĺ‹žäż˛ď˜šâ™śĺ€Źé„„ę§¨ćĽƒď˜šé„„ę™?é¸¤ď˜šé„„ę…žă?–ď˜ˇ
remodelled.
é¸?ăźŠč° é ŻäľŠĺ˘‚âśžä’ŠâœŤč…‹č?ˆä§ŽćŹ°ä§ćś¸é‹•éŒ?âżťę°‰ĺ?żçŚşçŞĄď˜šâľ„ćŹ˝ęŚ‘
a sculptor s mentality, as a pliable quantity that can be moulded and
The duo create generative visual and musical systems that employ chance operations as a means to cut loose from the conďŹ nes of traditional
ĺ Ľćś¸äš˝âĄ˛ĺ€°ä’äť—č†¨âŤ„çŞĄäžƒâœ˛ćś¸ă˝ˇęŁłď˜šăź&#x;ć“żäœŤâ›“âœ˛ç¸¨â°…ĺ€žćś¸é“ƒ
ăžŻćŽšâšĽď˜šé›ŠéŒšç˝?ăźŠäŠşćżźçŠĄĺœ“âżťäž•ăžŻćŹ´ćŹ°ďˆŁĺ€žćś¸é?‘éšĄď˜ˇâžŽâŚ›ćś¸
âĄ˛ă…ˇĺž¸äşźâœŤďˆŁć¤•é¸’âĽŒçŚşçŞĄâšĽä˝…ę¨†ç śçƒąćś¸ĺ?şĺœ“ď˜šäąłç¨‹čĄ˝é¸?â?‰çŚş
Thomson & Craighead. Photographed by Syndi Huang.
THOMSON & CRAIGHEAD: TIMESCALES AND POETRY MACHINES ĺź”ă¨–ĺ•żčŽ„âŻ˜ę¨ĺ‘”ëžąä—žď˜ť ĺ„—ę&#x;Śă ˘ä?žčŽ„é‘—ĺ§?ĺ ¤ă?ź
ART.ZIP: The show presents a lot of new works, have they been conceived especially for Party Booby Trap?
"35 ;*1é¸?匄ăž?éŒ’ăƒ„ć¤?âœŤâ™śăźąĺ€žâĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šă¸?âŚ›ĺƒ˝ćšśâ´˝ć?€
that we d be doing this exhibition since last autumn. Although one of the
ę&#x;šă¨Ľä§ŽâŚ›ă˝ 濟麼 銴鳾é¸?匄 ăž? éŒ’ď˜ˇâĄŽ Ⰼ⚼♧ â&#x;?⥲ㅡ Ő‚
JT: A lot of the works were made especially for the show, because we ve known works, A Temporary Index, is part of an extended research based project, which is called Nuclear Culture. Dr Ele Carpenter, at Goldsmiths, is overseeing a large
project that looks at the ways in which our legacy nuclear culture is embedded within the art world, but also within sociological frameworks. It is a vastly interdisciplinary project and we are one small part of this.
Thomson & Craighead, A Temporary Index, 2016.
spectre of humanity is always present in the machine, even as a disappearance. The pair expose the concealed politics of cyber-interaction, giving tactile form to the multitude of anonymous disembodied voices inhabiting the internet. The encounter with these ghosts is what drives the poetics of the artists
practice: the viewer seeing themselves within the work, their experiences mirrored, reframed, and made strange.
Thomson & Craighead apply a diverse range of conceptual tactics, evoking 1960s systems art, 1970s structuralist ďŹ lm-making, the intellectual rigour of
early Minimalism, and the compositional constraints of the inuential Oulipo literature group. This intentional shifting of form and approach is vital to
Thomson & Craighead s practice; art-making as a scavenger hunt for meaning in a landscape of constant change, or as Italo Calvino said, A classic is a book that has never ďŹ nished saying what it has to say.
Presented an engaging and successful show at Carroll/Fletcher, the duo sat
down with us to talk about some of the intentions behind Party Booby Trap and what it means to work with streams of data in contemporary art.
é¸?â?‰ďšłäŽ–ꍙ朸♜ĺŠ?ç˝œéş‚ë€?âš›čĄ˝č° é Żăšťćś¸é‘˜ä ‘ăťœéŠ?ď˜šç˝œ
éŒšćťžâľąă–ˆâĄ˛ă…ˇé…ćş?é‹…č?ˆäŠšď˜šč?ˆé¨ćś¸çŤ¤ĺ¨œâ›łé„„ĺƒŚć’‘ď˜šé„„ę…ž
ă?–ď˜šâš›éšśä–¤ęŁŤćŹ°ď˜ˇ
up creating a form of monument, but also an unimaginable representation of a self.
ART.ZIP: It is really interesting to see how the works displayed are like a set of pointers displayed in the gallery space, they are evocative without telling the viewer what to think, but rather what to consider. Are you thinking in term of accessibility when you re in the process of making the work? AC: Common Era is a series of crayon drawings that have a collection of
ĺź”ă¨—ĺ–€ă„¤âŻ˜ę¨Žĺ‘”ëžąä—žäą°ćŹ˝ă˘ľç??錚䙂â?œçą˝ćś¸äŠ›ĺ˛ ď˜šé›Šâžƒä&#x;?
statements or predictions of when the world will end. In a way, we see it very
ĺŠ?噲ç&#x;Śâšşçş?ćś¸ă“‚é˜Œď˜šéźŠĺ‰¤ć?Śâ¸‚ĺ˛šć‚´ă–ˆäż’ăˇ¸äŠ¨ä‘–ćś¸çŠ‰ă –ęŁł
we re showing 16 predictions for the end of the world and by just pitting them
鼹 äŽƒâžżćś¸çŚşçŞĄč° é Żď˜š äŽƒâžżćś¸çŠĄĺœ“âšşçş?ę¨śä•§ď˜šĺ‚?
âľ–ć¤šä™‚ď˜ˇé¸?ç??âľ ä ‘éą˛äł–ä•Žä’čŽ…ĺ€°ĺ˛ ăźŠâžŽâŚ›ćś¸ăťœéŠ?ă˝?ć?€
ę…žéŠ´ď˜ˇâžŽâŚ›ă˝ âŤšĺš˘éşĽăŁ—â™§ĺžşă–ˆâ™śâ¨˘éšśäŽ‘ćś¸ĺ…žéŒšé…䯲äŻ?ä ‘
çş?ď˜šä§´ç˝?䒸揽â&#x;ťă??çš?Ë™â˝“ć™‹çŹžé–‹ćś¸é‘¨â˘ľé“žîš‰ďšłçŤ¤â°ŠăĽśâą ď˜š
much like a documentary. We imagine documentary to be a ďŹ lm, but actually against one another you start to see the dates that have passed and the ones that are very into the future. It s an interesting gaze.
ăŤ”ăŤ”éşĽâ˘ľď˜šă€Šâ›“â™śćšˆď˜ˇďš´
JT: They start to act on each other. You can see there are false statements; you
ă–ˆâ˝“ĺłŤć™‹ ä’źč&#x;›ä—ŁćŽĽä?¤ćŽĽä?¤ä§â¸†čŽŠéłľâœŤç—§âœłĺŚ„âŚ?ăž?ա崣㟊
on each other we re hoping that it opens up the form, the idea of making a
é‘ ę¨ŽŐ¸ď˜šĺź”ă¨—ĺ–€čŽ…âŻ˜ę¨Žĺ‘”ëžąä—žęŚ‘ă—‚ă–ˆĺ€žď˜ščŽ…ä§ŽâŚ›ĺ†ąé”“ăž? 錒čƒ?䖕朸ä&#x;?ĺ˛ â&#x;ƒâżťćŽšâžżč° é Żé…â˘ŞćŹ˝äž¸äş™ĺ´ŠâśžâĄ˛ćś¸ä ‘çş?ď˜ˇ
♜㠚朸倰ä’éŒšĺş ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śď˜šéŒšćş?♧ăźĺŞŻĺ„˜ę&#x;Śé…朸â&#x;ƒâżťĺˆżëĽ”ăŁ? ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śĺ‘Ľĺ?şé…ćś¸ďšłĺ„˜ę&#x;Śďš´ď˜ˇ
âšâŚ?ăśśĺŤ˘ćś¸âžƒę˛łă›‡ă””çŠ‰âžżé‚?âœŤâ™§âŚ?ć Źç”¨ćś¸âžƒď˜ˇę§Şć?」
years it took for the human genome to be sequenced for the ďŹ rst time. We end
â™śĺƒ˝ćšŹäąşćś¸ęł?ć¤?ď˜ˇĺź”ă¨—ĺ–€ă„¤âŻ˜ę¨Žĺ‘”ëžąä—žäłˇçˆšâœŤçŹŞçŞ„â?œĺ´Š
➲㜊ĺ‘?ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇé”“é”¸ćś¸ĺƒ˝ă¸ŞăŁ?ćś¸ĺ„˜ę&#x;ŚçŽ°ä?žď˜šç˝œęťťĺŽ?⥲ㅡ
that s 3.2 billion letters. Although it is the representation of one person, to
trigger videos and create what we call poetry machine. It reects upon the 13
⚼悴询朸ä˝&#x;ĺą›ď˜šé˝Ąâ?‰âœ˝č€˘çŹŞâ™łćś¸âźŁă ?č€Ťę°‰éšśä–¤ă€łé‹…ď˜ˇčŽ…
ă€Ťĺƒ˝âżŽčŽ…âœŤâ°ŚâšĽâ™§ăźéżˆâ&#x;¨ćś¸ç ‡ç‘–ď˜ˇ
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becomes an unimaginably long data set. We use that as a score and then to
systems on human relations to time and space. For Thomson & Craighead, the
é ŻčŽ…çˆ˘ĺ‰šăˇ¸ď˜ˇă¸?ĺƒ˝â™§âŚ?뼔ăŁ?ćś¸é¨—ăˇ¸çŒ°ç ‡ç‘–éŽ™âˇ”ď˜šç˝œä§ŽâŚ›
JT: Stutterer, which we have shown three times, takes ourselves into a huge
actually see the nuclear time describing the whole of the genome it suddenly
global communication systems while also exploring the implications of these
ă˜—ç ‡ç‘–ę°ŞćšĄď˜šé¸?âŚ?ę°ŞćšĄäąłç¨‹ćś¸ĺƒ˝âž˛ăśŠĺ‘?俒❋㼜⥌応Ⰵč°
ŐˇĺŠŁâš†Ő¸âľąĺƒ˝éŽŁé”¸ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śćś¸ćšˆęą§Ő‚⚆ć˛ĺŠŁĺ‚ˆď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›é‘‘襽揽
stream of text, which is the human genome. It represents an individual person,
çŞĄăźŠâžƒę˛łčŽ…ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śď˜śčŽ…ç‘ ę&#x;Śćś¸ęĄ ⤚䨞äŒ&#x;â˘ľćś¸ä•§ę° ď˜ˇăźŠĺź”ă¨—
â´•ď˜ˇ é¸?âŚ?é“ę˛—ĺƒ˝ę†„âť ăˇ¸ę¤Žćś¸č’•ć™‹Ë™â˝“č§?ćšśä¸ăźŹćś¸â™§âŚ?ăŁ?
maybe the Apocalypse perfume is talking about the end of time, the end of
ways. There are small sections of time and then big pictures of time.
ĺ–€ă„¤âŻ˜ę¨Žĺ‘”ëžąä—žâ˘ľé“žď˜šĺ Ľă?źçą?ĺƒ˝äŒ&#x;ĺ‰¤âžƒäš?ćś¸éżˆâ´•ď˜šâ˝ç›˜
Őˇĺ†žĺ„˜ćś¸ç¨‹ä’¸Ő¸Ő‚ĺƒ˝Őˇâž˛ăśŠĺ‘?äż’âť‹Ő¸ç ‡ç‘–é“ę˛—ćś¸â™§éżˆ
"$䧎钢ć?€é¸?匄ăž?éŒ’ĺˆżăťŤä‘žćś¸âšşę˛—ĺƒ˝ęĄ ĺ€´ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śćś¸ď˜ˇĺ‰¤ęĄ
the world. We are trying to look at the hubris of thinking about time in dierent
structures and situations. These works mimic the fragmented frameworks of
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AC: I think that the really broad themes of the show are about dealing with
time. The nuclear counters are talking about really massive timescales and then
narrative, re-contextualising the familiar to allow for new readings of known
Őˇĺ´ŁăźŠé‘ ę¨ŽŐ¸ä¨žâśžâĄ˛ćś¸ăŒ¨îšŽ
♧âŚ?ć?‚卲뼔ăŁ?朸俒劼é…ď˜šâ›łă˝ ĺƒ˝âžƒę˛łă›‡ă””çŠ‰ď˜ˇé¸?âŚ?剤襽
âžżé‚?âœŤâ™§âŚ?âžƒď˜šâĄŽäŞžé¸?âŚ?ă›‡ă””çŠ‰ćŹ˝ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śćś¸ĺ€°ä’â˘ľăƒ„ć¤?朸
鑨㽠障ä§âœŤâ™§âŚ?ć?‚ĺ˛ ä&#x;?⍚Ⰼę&#x;€ä?žćś¸äž¸â´Şď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›âľ„揽é¸?âŚ? 䞸⴪⥲ć?€ĺ?żé™—ď˜šâ˘ľé?¸ćśŽä•§âŤšćś¸äš…ä˝žď˜šâ°?ç˝?朸犥㠖ä§ć?€âœŤ ä§ŽâŚ›ä¨žâśžé¸¤ćś¸ďšłé‘˜ĺ§?ĺ Ľă?źďš´ď˜ˇŐˇçŠĄäŠźŐ¸ä™źç¨‹âœŤęťˇĺŚ„ä§â¸†äą–
â´Şâžƒę˛łă›‡ă””çŠ‰ä¨žč”…éĄĽćś¸ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śîš‰âź§â™˛äŽƒď˜ˇŐˇçŠĄäŠźŐ¸ă˝ ⍚♧ä? ç§ ä™‚çƒľď˜šç§ ä™‚čĄ˝ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śď˜šâĄŽă šĺ„˜ă¸?â›łĺƒ˝ăźŠâ™§âŚ?âžƒćś¸ä˛žç˛ď˜šă€Ť ĺƒ˝é¸?ç??䲞ç˛ę¨ˆâ&#x;ƒä&#x;?âŤšď˜ˇ
"35 ;*1é¸?匄ăž?éŒ’ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇę¤Ťâ´Şĺ€°ä’ä–Žĺ‰¤éŚąď˜šâŤšâ™§çŠ‰çŠ‰
ĺžŚçˆšâ™§ĺžşăƒ„ć¤?ă–ˆćŽĽä?¤ćś¸ă ?č´–ď˜ˇâĄ˛ă…ˇâ›“ä¨žâ&#x;ƒč…‹ä’¸éĽąâ°&#x;ë’Šâš›
â™śĺƒ˝ăƒ‡é?°éŒšç˝?ä™źç˝ŒâžŠëžƒď˜šç˝œĺƒ˝ćş?âĄ˛âžŠëžƒď˜ˇâĄšâŚ›ă–ˆâśžâĄ˛ćś¸ ĺ„˜âŚŹĺ‰šç˝ŒäŁ‚âĄ˛ă…ˇćś¸ă€łéšĄäš?ăŒ¨îšŽ
"$ Őˇâ°—âŻ‹Ő¸ĺƒ˝é€•ç˜˜ćŽĽâĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šâ™łęŹ—ę§Œă –âœŤâ™§çŚşâ´ŞęĄ ĺ€´âš†ć˛ĺŠŁ ĺ‚ˆćś¸ăš’éŽŠä§´ę°¸éŽŠď˜ˇă–ˆĺŽĽç??玑ä?žâ™łâ˘ľé“žď˜šă¸?ă˝ âŤšĺƒ˝ç§ ę?—晚
â™§ĺžşď˜šç§ ę?—ć™šäĽ°é‘Şĺƒ˝ę¨śä•§â™§ĺžşćś¸ď˜šâĄŽĺƒ˝ä§ŽâŚ›ăƒ„ć¤?ćś¸ă€Ťĺƒ˝ âŚ?⚆ć˛ĺŠŁĺ‚ˆćś¸ę°¸éŽŠď˜šäŞžă¸?⌛♧âŚ?âŚ?âš›â´Şäą–ä˝žď˜šâĄšĺ‰šćśŽ ć¤?ă¸?âŚ›ĺƒ˝âœ˝ćšąăźŠç”¨ćś¸ď˜šĺ‰¤â?‰ę°¸éŽŠä˛żâżťćś¸ĺŠŁĺ‚ˆĺ„˜ę&#x;ŚäŠşçŤ¤éş•
âżĄď˜šĺ‰¤â?‰éźŠă–ˆĺŠ˘â˘ľď˜ˇä§ŽéŒ?ä–¤ćş?襽é¸?â?‰ăźŠĺŤ˛ă„¤ćż¨ćš˝ä–Žĺ‰¤ä ‘ ä™źăƒ¤ď˜ˇ
can see that there are statements that we can t really contemplate. In acting
+5ă¸?⌛⛓ę&#x;Śćšąâœ˝éĽąčĄ˝âĄ˛ćŹ˝ď˜ˇă””ć?€âĄšă€łâ&#x;ƒćş?âľŒé˝Ąâ?‰ę?Ťé“?
prediction in the ďŹ rst place, because it seems to me to be a hubristic tendency
鸒麕é¸?â?‰ę°¸éŽŠăž?ę&#x;šéŽŁé”¸ď˜šćş?ćş?ä§ŽâŚ›ĺƒ˝é˝Ąëžƒćś¸ćœ&#x;ăĽźď˜šĺ´žă–ˆ
when we all live in a universe we have no control over. So making a prediction of a world s end is an act trying to take control. Seeing them operating in that way refers to religion and refers to science.
ćś¸ę°¸éŽŠď˜šâĄšă€łâ&#x;ƒćş?âľŒé˝Ąâ?‰ä§ŽâŚ›ć?‚ĺ˛ ĺƒˆćśŻćś¸ăš’éŽŠď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ä‹žĺŠ†
♧âŚ?ĺ‘?劼ć?‚ĺ˛ äąžâľ–ćś¸ă¸™ă¸żé…ď˜ˇć?‚é”¸ĺƒ˝ă¸ťäž†éźŠĺƒ˝çŒ°ăˇ¸âĄ˛â´€ ę°¸éŽŠď˜šé¸?éżŞĺƒ˝é‘‘ă•Źă¤žä–¤äąžâľ–ĺĽšćś¸â™§âŚ?é ¤ć?€ď˜ˇ
When you ask the question about the space that the work creates, it s very
ęĄ ĺ€´âĄšă‰?âľŒćś¸âśžâĄ˛ç‘ ę&#x;Śď˜šä§ŽâŚ›é’˘ć?€ęŹŒäŒ˘ę…žéŠ´ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›â™śĺ‰š
making something that proselytising. Rather, we re trying to create spaces that
ĺˆżę˛Šä ‘ć–Šé¸¤ç‘ ę&#x;Śé›ŠéŒšç˝?éšŽé ¤äŞĄâ´źâżŽčŽ…ď˜šâĄŽĺƒ˝ä§ŽâŚ›â›łâ™śĺƒ˝
important to us, critically, that we make work that s not too didactic, not
might allow for critical engagement, but we don t see ourselves outside of that. We see ourselves, in an anthropological sense, participant observers. I think
Untitled (balloon work) is very much like that, because we re trying to make
quite spectral connections with warfare and how it impedes on our psyche collectively. How we collectively live in a constant state of denial.
縨é¨âœ˛ă˘Ťćś¸ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ĺˆżâŤšĺƒ˝â™§âŚ?âżŽčŽ…ă˜—ćś¸éŒšăťŒç˝?ď˜šä–°âžƒę˛ł ăˇ¸ćś¸éŒŹä?žâ˘ľćş?ä–Šăƒ°ă• ćś¸â™§â´—ď˜ˇä§Žä&#x;?ĺľć¤•âĄ˛ă…ˇŐˇć?‚겗ոă˝
ĺƒ˝é˝Ąĺžşćś¸ď˜šä§ŽâŚ›é‘‘ă•Źé›Šé¸?âŚ?âĄ˛ă…ˇčŽ…ä¨žć˜°ćŹ´ćŹ°â™§ç??č€˘ç˛Żď˜š
ćş?ćş?ä¨žć˜°ä™Śëžƒä•§ę° ę§Œë„“ä—ąć¤šćś¸ď˜šä§ŽâŚ›ä™Śëžƒă–ˆâ™§âŚ?國噲や ăš ćś¸ćœœä˘€â™´â°&#x;č´–ď˜ˇ
AC: We all know we re at war at the moment, but it s very easy to tune out of it.
"$䧎⌛鿪濟麼⚆ć˛â™łéźŠĺ‰¤ä¨žć˜°ćś¸ćśŽćŹ°ď˜šâĄŽä§ŽâŚ›çą?ĺƒ˝ä–Ž
bursting sounds so like anti-aircraft trials.
ă˝ âŤšĺƒ˝ęŁˆç‘ ć€ľçŽťď˜ˇ
We re thinking that somehow watching those balloons and the noise of them
ăş‚ĺƒ’äŞžă¸?ăž“čŞŒäąˆď˜ˇé˝Ąâ?‰ĺľć¤•ćś¸ć—™ç śâ&#x;ƒâżťă¸?⌛朎ⴀ朸耍갉
JT: It is the act of those women popping balloons after a corporate balloon
+5é¸?âŚ?âĄ˛ă…ˇĺƒ˝ä•§âŤščŽ…ć¤?ăœĽćšąçŠĄă –ćś¸â™§âŚ?âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜ˇé‹•ęą˝é…
inscribed with the names of the military actions: Dessert Storm , Urgent
朸ĺľć¤•âľąâ˝Ťĺ‰¤éŽŞâœ˛é ¤âš›ćś¸ă ?ç?–îš‰ďšłĺ°Şć Šę´?ĺ‡?ďš´ď˜šďšłćœ&#x;ĺ‡?ä™
drop, in the video work, combined with the balloons in the gallery space
Fury . The names are so romantic. They re heroic, they re propaganda, they re
idealistic. The way in which all of that horror is mediated to us is interesting and how we ritualise things.
AC: We re trying to look at the language of war. JT: But in a way that s very open-ended.
ART.ZIP: The works presented for Party Booby Trap seem to have a sense of wit in them. Humour has always been present in your practice; do you think that in this instance, humour plays an even more important role? AC: I think there s satire in many of the works and there is, I hope, humour because we don t want our gaze to be cruel. We want it to say: we are
part of this . The title of the exhibition, Party Booby Trap, gives a clue to the uncomfortableness. The title is a palindrome, it can be read both ways and there s an uncomfortableness using the term booby. JT: It gets a lot of hits online, I can tell you that. AC: We put an image of the show on Flickr with the name of the show, using the word booby we had 12 000 hits in 24hrs without us doing anything.
JT: That s the Internet, but I think humour is critically important to us and also satire. Underlying a lot of the works that we are making is that idea of the
architecture of language, space and time and the way we perceive the world.
朸ăĽ?ăĄŚâŚ›ĺƒ˝ă–ˆâ°—ă €čŽŠéłľĺ´žâš›ä–•ăź&#x;ĺľć¤•âľžç śď˜šç˝œćŽĽä?¤ć¤?ăœĽ ćŠĄďš´ç˜žç˜žď˜šé˝Ąâ?‰ă ?ăśśĺƒ˝é˝Ąëžƒćś¸ĺľ ć ď˜ˇă¸?âŚ›ĺƒ˝č–Šę§†âšşçş?ä’
ćś¸ď˜šă¸?âŚ›ĺƒ˝ć’ťâš›ä’ćś¸ď˜šă¸?âŚ›ĺƒ˝ć¤šä&#x;?âšşçş?ćś¸ď˜ˇé˝Ąâ?‰ć—™ç śäŒ&#x;⢾
ćś¸ä›Œä§Œçą?ĺƒ˝ç‘łć?ćśŽćŹ°ď˜šç˝œä§ŽâŚ›çą?č…‹ä—?㌍㖒䪞é¸?ç??ä›Œä§Œéą˛ âť‹ć?€é‹…ä˘Ťâ™śäš“ćś¸âœ˛äž•ď˜ˇĺ§ťăĽśâžƒâŚ›ăźŠä–Šä¨žć˜°ćś¸ä˘€ä?žď˜ˇ "$îš‰ä§ŽâŚ›é‘‘ă•ŹéŒšăťŒé¸?â?‰ęĄ ĺ€´ä¨žć˜°ćś¸é“ƒéŽŠď˜ˇ +5䖰厼ç??玑ä?žâ™łâ˘ľé“žď˜šä§ŽéŒ?ä–¤é˝Ąĺƒ˝ę&#x;šä˝žä’ćś¸ď˜šä§ŽâŚ›ă–ˆ éŒšăťŒď˜ˇ
"35 ;*1ăž?éŒ’Őˇĺ´ŁăźŠé‘ ę¨ŽŐ¸âšĽćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇéżŞâŻ?ć€?čĄ˝ĺ Ľĺ…°é’
é•œď˜ˇäŽ–ëžżçŤ¤äŒ˘â´€ć¤?ă–ˆâĄšâŚ›ćś¸č° é ŻăťœéŠ?é…ď˜šâĄšâŚ›éŒ?ä–¤ă–ˆé¸? âŚ?âĄ˛ă…ˇćŽšâšĽď˜šäŽ–ëžżĺƒ˝â™śĺƒ˝ĺˆżę…žéŠ´îšŽ
"$䧎éŒ?ä–¤é?Şă˘ľâĄ˛ă…ˇéżŞäŒ&#x;ĺ‰¤é•žâľžä ‘ă„‚ćś¸ď˜šâĄŽă šĺ„˜â›łĺ‰¤äŽ–
ëžżď˜šă””ć?€ä§Žä‹žĺŠ†ä§ŽâŚ›ćś¸ĺ˛¤é‹•éšśä–¤â™śé˝ĄëžƒĺŠŤä—žď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ä&#x;?é“ž ćś¸ĺƒ˝ď˜šďšłä§ŽâŚ›â›łé¨ă–ˆâ°ŚâšĽďš´ď˜ˇăž?éŒ’ćś¸ĺžŚę˛—Őˇĺ´ŁăźŠé‘ ę¨ŽŐ¸ĺ†? ä¸âœŤé¸?ç??â™śă¸žď˜ˇę˛—ćšĄĺƒ˝ă”?äż’ćś¸ä•Žä’ ę°ŤčĄ˝éšĄä§´éˇ čĄ˝éšĄéżŞĺƒ˝ ä§ç”¨ćś¸ď˜šç˝œâš‚揽ç—?街 âœŒä¨źďš´é¸?âŚ?ăśśćťšĺ‰šé›Šâžƒĺ‰¤ç??♜莞
something a little bit funny their guard comes down a bit and perhaps the
+5⥎é¸?â?‰č´Ąäşźâš†ć˛ćś¸âżžęşˆă–ˆăťœë„“⚆ć˛â›łă šĺžşé“žä–¤é¸’ď˜š
language is a good place to play with those. Also with humour, if people ďŹ nd work can communicate a little bit more directly. It can be a strategic device.
ART.ZIP: You ve always worked with streams of data, how has the evolution in the ways in which information is circulated shaped your practice?
éş¨âľŒâœŤ ă˘ľĺŚ„ď˜ˇ
templates and structures.
ę&#x;Śď˜śĺ„˜ę&#x;ŚéźŠĺ‰¤âš†ć˛éŒšćś¸ä’Šĺœ“ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›çŤ¤äŒ˘ăť¤é‹•é˝Ąâ?‰ä’Šĺœ“ㄤ
⛳é?Şă€łâ&#x;ƒé„„é‹•ć?€â™§ç??ç˜źćŽœă‚…ď˜ˇ
"$îš‰ä§ŽâŚ›ćś¸ä•§âŤšâĄ˛ă…ˇŐˇç—§â™§âžƒç?–Ő¸ćšśâ´˝ä˛żâżťâœŤé¸?ç??âŚ?➃
took from a website called The Experience Project where people put a limited number of characters looking for people who feel the same I hate Mondays , I love soldiers and they re looking for like-minded people to create those
communities with that particular interest. It becomes this kind of hypnotic work.
éŠ´ď˜šé•žâľžâ›łĺƒ˝ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›é?Şă˘ľâĄ˛ă…ˇćś¸ä&#x;?ĺ˛ éżŞĺƒ˝ă›‡ĺ€´é“ƒéŽŠď˜śç‘
JT: We ve described it as a cinematic plateau stage, because you always arrive
çŠĄĺœ“ď˜ˇâœ˝č€˘çŹŞĺƒ˝â™§âŚ?䖎㼪朸⢿㜊⢾é‚?ć¤?㼜⥌⾄揽垸ă?†ă„¤
really meaningful or it can be quite jarring or meaningless. As viewers, we are
çŠĄĺœ“â˘ľäŞŒĺˆźâĽŒäœ‚ćś¸ď˜ˇ
é?Şé¸’麕䎖랿〳â&#x;ƒé›ŠâĄ˛ă…ˇčŽ…錚ç˝?朸â?œĺ´ŠĺˆżćšŹäąşâ™§â?‰ď˜ˇäŽ–ëžż
person centred. We have a video of a house, which is constantly in a process of burning down but never burns down. It cut through inter-titles that we
â™łď˜šďšłCPPCZďš´é¸?âŚ?ęĄ ę’łăśśé›Šä§ŽâŚ›ćś¸ë&#x;ŠäššćĄ§ă–ˆ ăźĺ„˜â°‰
ă–’ď˜šăĽśĺ?“âžƒâŚ›ćśŽć¤?ĺ‰¤éŚąćś¸âœ˛ćš&#x;ď˜šâžŽâŚ›ă˝ ĺ‰šä˝žâ™´ä§ŻâŞ”ä—ąď˜šâ›ł
"35 ;*1îš‰âĄšâŚ›çŤ¤äŒ˘éşŒćŹ˝äž¸äş™ĺ´Šâ˘ľéšŽé ¤âśžâĄ˛ď˜šâĽŒäœ‚âŤ„äš…
+5⥎珪♳ë&#x;ŠäššćĄ§ä–Žë„žă‰‡î™° " $䧎 ⌛ 」 ĺƒ˝ 䪞 ♧ ä“š ăž? 錒 ć’‘ 晚ㄤ 垌 겗 朎 ⥑ âľŒ ' M J D L S
⥚ćş?ď˜šćš&#x;椚äš?ď˜śď‰šä’¸â¸‚ď˜śé“ƒéŽŠé¸?â?‰éżŞĺƒ˝ă€łâ&#x;ƒäŞžć˘–ćś¸ď˜ˇă šĺžş
AC: I guess, The First Person, comes very much about a change in focus
through status updates, about media becoming very narcissistic and very
+5é¸?ă˝ ĺƒ˝âœ˝č€˘çŹŞď˜šâĄŽ ĺƒ˝ä§Žä&#x;?䎖랿㟊䧎⌛⢾铞暜ⴽꅞ
AC: Facebook, Google, the browser‌
"$îš‰čŒ ĺ‰…ď˜śé?˝ĺ§?ď˜ść‡łéŒ’ă?źç˜žď˜žď˜žî™ˇéżŞĺƒ˝ďšłä?˛âŻ’ďš´î™¸ď˜ˇ
ĺ‰Şćś¸ä ŽéŒ?ď˜ˇ
We often interrogate those architectures and structures. The Internet is a
very good example of how we understand that information is distorted by
JT: But that feeds back into the physical world as well, physics, gravity and
in the middle and it never ends. I think using randomness in that work can be left in that almost liminal space.
ćś¸éšśęŹ ĺƒ˝ăĽśâĄŚä•§ę° âĄšâŚ›ćś¸ăťœéŠ?朸
ćœœä˘€ĺˆżĺ€žćś¸éšśâť‹ď˜šăŻŻâž?éšśä–¤č?ˆä§—ㄤč?ˆä§Žć?€âšĽä—ąď˜ˇé‹•ęą˝é… 朸䨟㜊贖倴♧âŚ?ĺ§ťă–ˆé„„ć•Žć•Żď˜śâĄŽâ˝żâżśĺŽ•éť‡â™śĺ‰šé„„ć•ŻĺŤ†ĺŠƒ
ćšˆćś¸ćœœä˘€ď˜ˇä•§ć™šç‘䳄襽♧â?‰éş•ăœĽăśśä?Œď˜šé¸?â?‰ăśśä?Œä–°â™§âŚ? ă€ŐˇçŤ¤ë€żę°ŞćšĄŐ¸ćś¸çŹŞç•€â™łä˛żă€Šćś¸ď˜šă–ˆé¸?âŚ?çŹŞç•€â™łď˜šâžƒâŚ›ă€ł
â&#x;ƒă–ˆęŁłăš ăśśäž¸â°‰ćśŽâĄ‘â™§ă€Łé‘¨ď˜šâ˘żăĽśďšłä§Žä›śéš‹â™§ďš´ď˜šďšłä§Žä Ś
ăĄŚâ°Ľďš´ç˜žç˜žď˜šć?ä–•ä˜‹ă šéşĽă –ćś¸âžƒă˝ ă€łâ&#x;ƒę†šăźŠé¸?〣暜㚠朸 é‘¨éšŽé ¤ćŽ†éŽŠéšŽç˝œćŹ´ćŹ°éšŽâ™§ĺ§żćś¸â?œĺ´Šď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ă˝ ĺƒ˝çŠĄă –âœŤé¸? âŚ?çƒąć™šä•§âŤšă„¤äż’ăśśď˜šçł’ç˝œâśžâĄ˛âœŤé¸?âŚ?Ⱘ剤⪜ćşăż‚äš?朸⥲ ă…ˇď˜ˇ
Thomson & Craighead, Stutterer, 2014
Thomson & Craighead, Stutterer, 2014
䪞⥲ㅡ⨞䖤䖎铞䞆ä’ćś¸ď˜šâ›łâ™śĺ‰šĺƒ˝â¨‹ęąƒćś¸ď˜ˇćšąâżžă–’ď˜šä§ŽâŚ›
AC: I think we see a change towards a worship of the self with social
media and the work is looking at those kinds of ďŹ rst person statements. JT: The Internet is a good example of how things have changed. We
started making work when the web began to attract attention. In the
early 90s it was a very dierent space, it was very idealistic. Anybody could
AC: I thought it was quite exciting actually, a little bit like the
çş?ď˜šä§´ç˝?â›łĺ‰¤ă€łč…‹é›Šâžƒâ™śă¸žä§´ç˝?éŒ?䖤受ć?‚ä ‘çş?ď˜ˇâĄ˛ć?€éŒšç˝?ď˜š
and I ve never seen before and they ve done a brilliant job. If
âľŒâšĽę&#x;Śéżˆâ´•ď˜šĺ°?ĺ‰¤çŠĄă˝ľď˜ˇä§Žä&#x;?ă–ˆâĄ˛ă…ˇâšĽéşŒćŹ˝ęŚ‘ĺ Ľäš?ĺ‰šä–Žĺ‰¤ä ‘ ä§ŽâŚ›é„„ćŽ†ă–ˆâœŤę ŹęŁłćś¸ç‘ ę&#x;Śé…ď˜ˇ
"$îš‰ä§ŽâŚ›é‹…é˜ŽčĄ˝çˆ˘â?œăŻŻë„“⚼č?ˆä§ŽäƒŞäŹşćś¸éą˛éšśď˜ˇé¸?âŚ?âĄ˛ă…ˇă˝ ĺƒ˝
Royal Academy s Summer Exhibition, it was like a salon hang
ART.ZIP: You arre also educators, what is the most challenging when you work with young practitioners?
you ever said to me we d do a salon hang of media works, I
they grew up with the Internet and with computers. It s just a very
would say that couldn t work.
錚ćş?é¸?ç?? 痧♧➃ç?– ćś¸ćśŽćŹ°ď˜ˇ
JT: The work they ve included is a good piece from my point
mall as Internet.
+5îš‰âœ˝č€˘çŹŞĺƒ˝ăž?ć¤?âœ˛ćš&#x;㼜⥌障韄朸♧âŚ?ăĽŞâ˘żăśŠď˜ˇćŽšâœ˝č€˘çŹŞę&#x;š
in and of itself. What sits around the work becomes its own
ART.ZIP: Your work has recently been exhibited in Electronic Superhighway, how do you approach this type of conversation?
ĺƒ˝â™§âŚ?ćšśâ´˝â™śâ™§ĺžşćś¸ç‘ ę&#x;Śď˜šă¸?ĺƒ˝ć¤šä&#x;?âšşçş?ćś¸ď˜ˇâ&#x;¤âĄŚâžƒéżŞă€łâ&#x;ƒ
make a web page, everyone was writing their own utopia and how it
would change the world, capitalism will fall, and now we have a shopping
AC: I think it was really exciting to be exhibited in that exhibition. JT: We were quite surprised to be on the ground oor.
AC: We thought we d be with the slightly more senior people, on the top
oor, so we were actually happy to be included among the young artists. JT: A show like Electronic Superhighway is quite hard to talk about
because it s a sort of landmark survey exhibition and the catalogue is
quite interesting I think. The exhibition is an explosion of stu and it s quite instructive actually.
ă¨Ľă€ŒâľŒęĄ ĺ˛¤ćś¸ĺ„˜âŚŹä§ŽâŚ›â¤‘ę&#x;šă¨ĽâśžâĄ˛ď˜ˇă–ˆ äŽƒâžżĺ‚?ĺŠ?ď˜šâœ˝č€˘çŹŞ
of view, because it has a kind of autonomy and can operate context.
âśžä’ŠçŹŞę°¤ď˜šâ&#x;¤âĄŚâžƒéżŞă€łâ&#x;ƒĺ‰…㝨➎⌛č?ˆäŠšćś¸ć?ŚäŠŻé˝Śď˜šăĽśâĄŚä˝–éšś
AC: I m very pleased, we were talking with Emily [Butler] one
ăŁ?朸飑ćš&#x;ă‰‚ăœĽďš´ď˜ˇ
in front of our work More Songs of Innocence and of
⚆ć˛ď˜šăĽśâĄŚĺś‹ĺž§éĄťĺŠĽâšşçş?ç˜žç˜žď˜šâĄŽć¤?ă–ˆď˜šâœ˝č€˘çŹŞă˝ ĺƒ˝â™§âŚ?
of the curators, we had people singing karaoke everyday
dierent way and a very natural way, it isn t a political decision
to work with video rather than paint, it s just, well, these are the
materials we have to hand. It s really exciting that they don t see
boundaries in the same way as was when I was 19. I had to ďŹ ght to get into a computer department and the ďŹ ne art tutors thought I was crazy. Now of course that wouldn t happen in the same way.
[1] Thomson and Craighead were exhibiting London Wall (2015) and
Horizon (2015) at Big Bang Data.
Experience. It s lovely to Google it and see online people
"35 ;*1îš‰âĄšâŚ›ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇă–ˆŐˇę¨śăśŠë„žé¸ â°—é¨&#x;ո⚼â? 剤ăž?çˆšď˜šâĄš
performing your work for you.
"$îš‰č…‹ă–ˆé¸?âŚ?ăž?éŒ’â™łăž?çˆšä§ŽâŚ›ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇé›Šä§ŽâŚ›âź§â´•čŽ‡ăĽ…ď˜ˇ
JT: It was a fascinating show, quite interesting at the time as
+5îš‰ç˝œâš‚âĄ˛ă…ˇă–ˆâ™§ĺžœăž?ä‘źăž?çˆšé›Šä§ŽâŚ›ä ŽâľŒâź§â´•ë ‡é?„ď˜ˇ
House, which is quite an interesting comparison. It wasn t an
âŚ›ĺƒ˝ä™Śëžƒăž?ę&#x;šéŽŁé”¸ćś¸ăƒ¤îšŽ
AC: Being in the studio with young artists is really exciting because
well, because there was also Big Bang Data [1]at Somerset
art show in the same sense, but still interesting to see these dierent angles.
"$䧎⌛â&#x;ƒć?€ä§ŽâŚ›ĺ‰ščŽ…玖ä—?䎃ę&#x;€â™§ë&#x;Šćś¸č° é Żăšťâ™§â˘˜ăž?çˆšă–ˆę°Ľăžľćś¸ăž?ä‘źď˜ˇä§Ž ⌛䖎ę&#x;šä—ąč…‹ă„¤äŽƒé°‹č° é ŻăšťâŚ›â™§éĽąăž?çˆšď˜ˇ
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"$䧎éŒ?ä–¤äŻ†é›Šâžƒć…¨âš›ćś¸ď˜šĺ‰¤ë&#x;ŠâŤšćś˝ăšťč° é Żăˇ¸ĺ‰šćś¸ă˘šăˇŽăž?ď˜šĺ‰¤ë&#x;ŠâŤšĺ°ŞëĽŒăž?ď˜š 䖎㢾⥲ㅡ䧎⛓⾚鿪ĺ°?ćş?é‹…éş•ď˜šâĄ˛ă…ˇéżŞä–Žĺ•?ď˜ˇă–ˆé¸?âŚ?ăž?éŒ’â›“âľšď˜šăĽśĺ?“ĺ‰¤âžƒé¨ˆä§Ž é“žâ&#x;ƒĺ°ŞëĽŒăž?朸䕎ä’⢾ăž?çˆšĺ€žăŻŻë„“âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜šä§Žč‚Ľăš ĺ‰šé“žâ™śă€łč…‹ď˜ˇ
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"$ăž?éŒ’â°ŚâšĽâ™§âĄ™ç˜źăž?âžƒč’•ç˘œëœŠË™äŠźćšśâš—ăƒ‡é?°ä§ŽâŚ›ď˜šĺŤŚăŁ”éżŞĺ‰¤éŒšćťžă–ˆä§ŽâŚ›
ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇŐˇĺˆżă˘ľç§ŤćşŤë„“ë€żćś¸ĺ§?Ő¸âľšăˆ–â˝“äŹ˜0,ď˜šä§ŽćşŤćś¸ä–Žę&#x;šä—ąď˜ˇé¸’éş•é?˝ĺ§?〳â&#x;ƒ äľƒç¨‹âš›ćş?âľŒéŒšćťžć?€ä§ŽâŚ›é‚?ć€ľä ŽéŒ?ćşŤćś¸ä–ŽăĽŞď˜ˇ
+5é¸?ĺƒ˝âŚ?ä–Žĺ•?朸ăž?éŒ’ď˜šĺ‰¤éŚąćś¸ĺƒ˝ď˜ščŽ?ëžżă?ąćšśăš¨äŠ´â™śă˘ľă–ˆă šâ™§ĺ„˜ę&#x;Śâ›łčŽŠéłľâœŤ
ęĄ ĺ€´âœ˝č€˘çŹŞäž¸äş™ćś¸ăž?éŒ’Őˇäž¸äş™ăŁ?ć—™ćŒžŐ¸ď˜šé¸?â°?âŚ?ăž?éŒ’ćś¸ăźŠĺŤ˛ćšśâ´˝ĺ‰¤ä ‘ä™źď˜ˇ ա䞸亙ăŁ?ć—™ćŒžŐ¸â™śĺƒ˝č° é Żăž?éŒ’ď˜šâĄŽĺƒ˝ä–°â™śă šéŒŹä?žéŒšćş?é¸?â?‰ĺ‚ˆäŒ˘ćś¸çŹŞçŞ„äž¸äş™ ĺƒ˝ä–Žĺ‰¤ä ‘ä™źćś¸ď˜ˇ
"35 ;*1⥚⌛â°?âĄ™éżŞĺƒ˝äž†č‚ŹäŠ¨âĄ˛ç˝?ď˜šâĄšâŚ›éŒ?ä–¤ă„¤äŽƒé°‹č° é Żăšťâ™§éĽąäŠ¨âĄ˛ĺ‰“ ăŁ?ćś¸äŽ‹ä¨žĺƒ˝âžŠëžƒîšŽ
"$îš‰čŽ…äŽƒé°‹č° é Żăšťâ™§éĽąă–ˆäŠ¨âĄ˛ăš”ĺƒ˝ä–Žĺ•?ćś¸ď˜šă””ć?€âœ˝č€˘çŹŞă„¤ę¨śčˆĄâ śęŚ‘襽➎⌛
ä§ę&#x;€ď˜šä¨žâ&#x;ƒâžŽâŚ›ćś¸ăťœéŠ?倰ä’ă„¤ä§ŽâŚ›â™śâ™§ĺžşď˜šâžŽâŚ›â›łĺƒ˝ä–Žč?ˆć?㖒剚韇䚾鋕깽
ç˝œâ™śĺƒ˝ç˛ćŽĽď˜šâš›â™śĺƒ˝âžŠëžƒä˝&#x;ĺą›äŞ˝äšľď˜šă€Ťĺƒ˝é¸?â?‰ç¨‡ĺ‹žéżŞĺƒ˝ć¤?ä§ćś¸ď˜šéżŞĺƒ˝âžŽâŚ›ęŚ‘ äŠ›ă€łâżťćś¸ď˜ˇé›Šä§Žä ŽâľŒë„žčŽ‡ćś¸ĺƒ˝âžŽâŚ›â™śĺ‰šâŤšä§Ž ĺ¨”ĺ„˜é˝Ąĺžşĺ‰¤čĄ˝é¸?垺齥垺朸㽡
ꣳäš?ď˜ˇćŽšĺ„˜ćś¸ä§ŽéŠ´ä–Žč‘žę¨ˆäŠžč…‹ć˜°ă€ŠéšŽâ°…ę¨śčˆĄçŚşď˜šä§Žćś¸č° é ŻçŚşăźŹäŒŒćŽšĺ„˜éŒ?ä–¤ ä§Žč‚Ľăš ĺƒ˝ćł‡âœŤď˜ˇćŽšć?ď˜šć¤?ă–ˆă šĺžşćś¸äž•ĺąŁâ™śĺ‰šâą„ćśŽćŹ°âœŤď˜ˇ
Thomson & Craighead, Common Era XV, 2016
Thomson & Craighead, Six Years of Mondays, 2014
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Collaborative studio rAndom International are most famous for their
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Barbican in London and subsequently at MoMA in New York, Yuz
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Rain Room installation. This work enchanted viewers first at the
Museum in Shanghai and LACMA in Los Angeles. Led by duo Florian Ortkrass and Hannes Koch, the team blend science and art in their investigations of the relationship between man and machine. The viewer, or rather participant, has an emphasized role in the work.
These extraordinary works are unleashed upon the world ready and yearning for human interaction.
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As well as continuing to tour Rain Room, the studio are planning
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Harvard, enabled by Le Laboratoire. One of these is Study for Fifteen
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ever-bolder works partially informed by their recent residency at
Points, which explores how little visual information is needed for the human brain to perceive a human form.
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Visiting their main studio at The Old Warehouse in London, we
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by different audiences, and also the terms like digital art in the
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discussed the success of Rain Room and how it s approached
contemporary landscape towards less restrictive interdisciplinary practices.
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Rain Room (2015) ,150 Square Metres,Exhibited at Yuz Musuem, Shanghai courtesy of Yuz Foundation and VW China Photography by Delia Keller
RANDOM INTERNATIONAL 貼涬㕜ꥸ
ART.ZIP: You're most well known for the incredible Rain Room installation. Do you consider this your signature work? Do you still work with it or is it considered done and move on to the next work?
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practice, but it's just one of the works. We wouldn't have, in our wildest dreams,
é¸?âŚ?âĄ˛ă…ˇâŁœčŽ?ĺƒ˝ä–Žĺ‰¤éŚąćś¸ď˜šâž ć?ĺƒ˝ă–ˆâ™śĺ€ŹćśŽăž?ćŽšâšĽď˜šă¸?
RI: Far from putting it to one side, it's still very interesting and current within the expected that sort of persistent public reaction to it. It is also, still to this day,
not really guided by that. If anything, then we're picky about when and how
interesting bits in it that's in development, we've got four more to make and we're actively involved in every single one and they all will have permanent
homes. We're actively involved in making and ďŹ nding those homes. I don't see it as a done and dusted thing.
Each time Rain Room goes to a dierent country, it s dierent.
ART.ZIP: Your works use installation in order to study collective behaviour. Are the reactions that the Chinese audience had dierent to the ones experienced elsewhere?
to take that into account. There was a very dierent collective behaviour, how people experience the work and themselves. It was 1 or 2 people at a time in
LACMA and there were 15 or 20 people at a time, moving as a chunk in China. It's the dierent deďŹ nitions of personal space.
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individually, had pieces in exhibitions. We thought: "why don't we join forces?" That's when we came up with the name, because we were doing all dierent things, plus we were very intrigued by the word random. There's no direct
translation into German, or there is a translation but it usually has a negative connotation. We went to do our Masters degree at the Royal College of Art,
again working in several projects, both at the college and externally, together. We ďŹ nished the RCA and we incorporated the studio in 2005.
It started out as this collective umbrella. We did our ďŹ rst actual Random project,
3*䧎⌛ äŽƒă–ˆä‹’ë‰“â°‰ć™‹ăŁ?㡸钢é™?ď˜šé˝Ąĺƒ˝ęŹ’éľœĺ˝ąč›?朸 âŚ?ăˇ¸äŽƒď˜šä§ŽâŚ›ă ?č?ˆéżŞĺ‰¤âĄ˛ă…ˇâżŽâ¸ˆăž?éŒ’ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ä&#x;?ć?€âžŠëž†
ä˛żâ´€éŠ´ĺŽ ď˜ˇé¸?âŚ?⥲ㅡ韊剤♧â?‰ĺ‰¤éŚąćś¸ĺ€°ęŹ—ă–ˆćśŽăž?âšĽď˜šă¸?䊺 獤䖰➲⢾朸♧âŚ?ć™?劼朎ăž?âľŒă”‹âŚ?ć™?ĺŠĽď˜šä§ŽâŚ›ă–ˆĺŤŚâŚ?酤縨
⥲ㅡ♳鿪ç?Žĺ™˛âżŽčŽ…ď˜šä‹žĺŠ†ă¸?⌛ăź&#x;⢾鿪剤♧âŚ?腋㣠厕⛉ăž?
çˆšćś¸ç‘ ę&#x;Śď˜ˇä¨žâ&#x;ƒä§ŽâŚ›ă–ˆç?Žĺ™˛é†˘âĄ˛ćś¸ă šĺ„˜ď˜šâ›łă–ˆâ¸—⸂ć?€ă¸? ⌛䪪♧âŚ?ďšłăšťďš´ď˜ˇä¨žâ&#x;ƒä§Žâ™śé’˘ć?€Őˇę¨Žăž‹Ő¸é¸?âŚ?⥲ㅡ䊺獤䗣 ä? 㸤ä§âš›é„„äť†ç¸¨â™§ĺ€žď˜ˇ
Őˇę¨Žăž‹Ő¸ĺŤŚâľŒâ™§âŚ?â™śă šćś¸ă•œăšťď˜šă¸?éżŞĺƒ˝â™śâ™§ĺžşćś¸ď˜ˇ
That becomes manifest in Rain Room. I think the way people use it and
experience it here reects that. Here [London] you like to be in it alone and have it for yourself. That's not a thing in China.
Initially we were thinking of one person in the Rain Room. If we had a dierent
ćś¸ď˜ˇâšĽă•œéŒšćťžăźŠĺ§˝ćś¸âżžäĽ°ă„¤â°ŚâžŽă•œăšťéŒšćťžćś¸âżžäĽ°ĺ‰¤âžŠëž† 3*îš‰ĺƒ˝ćś¸ď˜šĺ‰¤ęŹŒäŒ˘â™śă šćś¸ă–’ĺ€°ď˜ˇăĽśĺ?“䧎⌛ćş?ćş?Ⱘ넓朸ꨎ
ăž‹ďš´é ¤ć?€ĺ€°ä’ď˜šâšĽă•œéŒšćťžćś¸ë„žăş™ä?žâżŽčŽ…ㄤâ§?䞚䧴ç˝?秣秉 éŒšćťžĺƒ˝ęŹŒäŒ˘â™śă šćś¸ď˜ˇă–ˆç§Łç§‰ă„¤â§?äžšď˜šé¸?ĺƒ˝â™§ç??âŚ?ë„“ë„“ë€żď˜š
ĺƒ˝ă‹˛ć Źćś¸ď˜šç˝œă–ˆâšĽă•œď˜šâžƒâŚ›äŒ˘äŒ˘ĺƒ˝â™˛â?€ä§çşˆćś¸ď˜š č?› ➃ â™§çŠ‰éšŽâ°…ď˜šâžŽâŚ›â™§éĽąĺ´žâš›ď˜šä–ƒä–ƒăźŹč?žďšłę¨Žăž‹ďš´â™§âźąćś¸ç‘ ę&#x;Ś éżŞâ™śďšłâ™´ę¨Žďš´ď˜ˇä§Žâ™śĺ‰šé“žă¸?麏čƒ?âœŤä§ŽâŚ›âž˛â˘ľćś¸ĺœ“ä&#x;?ď˜šâĄŽä§Ž
âŚ›ă–ˆĺŠ˘â˘ľâśžâĄ˛ćś¸ĺ„˜âŚŹĺ‰šäŞžé¸?âŚ?ă””ç¨‡ç˝ŒäŁ‚ă–ˆâ°‰ď˜ˇé¸?ç??ę§Œë„“
é ¤ć?€ćşŤćś¸ĺƒ˝é›Šä§ŽâŚ›ä ŽâľŒä ‘ă˘Ťćś¸ď˜šéŒšćťžăźŠĺ€´âĄ˛ă…ˇă„¤č?ˆé¨ćś¸ ë„“ë€żâ›łĺƒ˝â™śă šćś¸ď˜ˇă–ˆĺłŤĺ‹’ç†˜č° é Żâ˝ˆćš&#x;ę¸ď˜šďšłę¨Žăž‹ďš´é…䖃䖃
♧匄」剤♧â°?âŚ?éŒšćťžď˜šâĄŽĺƒ˝ă–ˆâšĽă•œď˜šâ™§ĺŚ„ă˝ ĺ‰¤ 䧴ç˝? ă ?éŒšćťžéšŽâ°…ď˜šä§çşˆçŠĄęĽ™ă–’ç?ľâš›ď˜ˇ
é¸?â›łâżžĺƒŚâœŤâ™śă šâžƒçşˆăźŠĺ€´âŚ?âžƒç‘ ę&#x;Śćś¸ăš çş?ĺ‰¤ä¨žâ™śă šď˜ˇ é¸?♧ë&#x;Šă–ˆďšłę¨Žăž‹ďš´é…ćŽŻäŒ˘ç‘łâ´€ď˜ˇâžƒâŚ›â˘ŞćŹ˝ă„¤ë„“ë€żă¸?朸倰ä’
ĺ Ľďš´é¸?âŚ?é‘‚ęŹŒäŒ˘ä ŽčŽ‡éŚąď˜ˇé¸?âŚ?é‘‚ĺ°?éłľĺ˛ ćšŹäąşçźşé™źä§ä—žäż’ď˜š
We would have probably made a completely dierent work. I wouldn't argue
ăž‹ďš´é…ď˜šâ?§ă€ŒâŚ?âžƒčŽ…âĄ˛ă…ˇćś¸âœ˝âš›ď˜ˇâĄŽă–ˆâšĽă•œď˜šâžƒâŚ›âĄ‚â›–âš›
â™§éĽąă–ˆćś˝ăšťč° é Żăˇ¸ę¤Žä˝™éšĄç„šăĄŚăˇ¸âĄ™ď˜šă–ˆäŽ™âŚ?갪暥♳⹄匄
when thinking of new work, that experience is deďŹ nitely something that will
âŚ?ă ?ăśśď˜šă””ć?€ä§ŽâŚ›â¨žćś¸ĺƒ˝â™śă šćś¸ĺŒŒéŠŻď˜šâą„â¸ˆâ™łä§ŽâŚ›ăźŠďšłęŚ‘ 㽠皿〳â&#x;ƒâš‰ä“˝çźşé™źď˜šă¸?é¸’äŒ˘â›łĺ‰¤é žęŹ—ćś¸ă‚?çş?ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ä–•â˘ľ ă –âĄ˛ď˜šé¸?⺍ä?âœŤĺ?Ľâ°‰ĺ?Ľă˘Ťćś¸ę°ŞćšĄď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ć ˝ä–¤âœŤăˇ¸âĄ™ä–•ă–ˆ äŽƒĺ§ťä’é?˝âą ä§ç”¨âœŤäŠ¨âĄ˛ăš”ď˜ˇ
ďšłč˛˝ćśŹă•œęĽšďš´â™§ę&#x;šă¨Ľă˝ 剤â°&#x;ă šë„“ćś¸ä ‘ă„‚ď˜ˇä§ŽâŚ›ă–ˆ 䎃
but there our complementary skills and interests really became something
âĄ˛âžƒă ?çş?ćś¸âĄ˛ă…ˇď˜ˇă–ˆĺ§˝â›“âľšď˜šä§ŽâŚ›ă€Ťĺƒ˝ă–ˆă ?č?ˆćś¸ę°ŞćšĄâ™łă –
bigger and more focused.
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cultural background, we would have thought of it dierently.
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where we worked together under that name, at the Valencia Biennale in 2003. We had already been working together on our respective individual projects,
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â™śă šăŒ¨îšŽ
say it deďŹ ed the purpose, but I think next time we will set it up a little dierently
here near Winsor, on a hill. It was a bit like a monastery. In the last year we,
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dierent from London or New York. In New York and London it was all about the 15 people, switching o half of the Rain Room by moving collectively. I wouldn't
RI: We met at Brunel University in 1998, at one of their campuses west of
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individual experience, solitude. In China, people went in large groups, of 10 or
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RI: There was a strong dierence yes. If you want to go into the speciďŹ c Rain Room behaviour, the high-density population behaviour in China is very
ART.ZIP: How did rAndom International start?
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that Rain Room doesn't work in China. I think going forward, which is interesting
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remain.
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ART.ZIP: For your project Study for Fifteen Points, will it exist on a larger scale? Your previous work engages more with the audience, does Study for Fifteen Points just move automatically?
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RI: At the moment, yes. It's very much what it says: A Study for Fifteen Points.
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engagement, to what extent behavioural reactions are interesting
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are studying to what extent we can open the sculptural up for
or boring, and to what extend we can implement the motion of the viewer and whether that's interesting. We're really actively
studying that, looking at the technical possibilities and, foremost, the conceptual implications. We don't always see the need for
interaction. I think our interpretation of the man/machine, viewer/ object, viewer/environment relationship is much broader. There's something powerful about the recognition of human motion
and there is something potentially powerful about recognising
yourself, but there's something potentially one-liner-ish about it
as well. We're gagging to make sense of it and it's not happening. The big one is going to go along 12-metre rails, it's not going to Swarm Study / IX Random International 2016, Photography by Jan Bitter
be a study anymore, and it will be exuberant.
You can even scramble the movement up and the brain works
hard to make sense of it, and in most cases can still see, that it's
still a human. We haven't even touched that at the moment, we have the Fifteen Points.
ART.ZIP: Digital art can be a dividing term, some people think it's too broad or outdated, whilst others think there is no digital art, digital is merely a tool to use. Some would see it as constrictive, but it's good to use such a decisive term to get passionate opinions. What's your view? RI: I think it cuts yourself short. By compartmentalising yourself,
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were in a limited number of spaces, like Ars Electronica. Now it's not the same, with most people today, compartmentalising is really not a thing.
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ART.ZIP: Most of the contemporary art we encounter is inter-disciplinary, with artists like yours, starting dialogues between diďŹ&#x20AC;erent genres inside and outside of art. I know you've collaborated with dancers. What do you feel the beneďŹ ts are from bringing in outside collaborators?
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new. The idea always comes ďŹ rst. Working with dance and Wayne
ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?鿪é&#x203A;&#x160;䧎âŚ&#x203A;âŻ?ć&#x20AC;?č&#x17D;&#x2021;錹ď&#x2DC;ˇäł&#x2013;⥲ĺ&#x192;˝ä§Žď&#x2DC;šä§Žă¸¤ď&#x2C6;Łâ&#x2122;śćżźéşĽé&#x2018;Şä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;ę&#x;&#x161;㨼ď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?â¤&#x2018;
RI: Every time we do something it's partially exciting because it's McGregor for example, we didn't really know anything about
contemporary dance. It's interesting how people use their body
as a material and what is involved in that, including remembering
ĺ&#x17E;şď&#x2DC;šă&#x2013;&#x2C6;č° é Żęą&#x2020;ă&#x161;&#x2013;â°&#x2030;㢍ä&#x2019;&#x160;ç&#x201D;¨ă ?겳é¨&#x2014;㡸ç&#x152;°ćś¸ăźŠé&#x2018;¨ď&#x2DC;ˇâĄšâŚ&#x203A;â&#x203A;łĺ&#x2030;&#x17D;獤ă&#x201E;¤č&#x17D;ťéŞŞć&#x20AC;ľă&#x2020;&#x17E; ă &#x2013;⥲éş&#x2022;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?ç??é¨&#x2014;ć˛ă &#x2013;⥲ä&#x152;&#x;⢾â&#x153;Ťâ&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;㼪č´&#x2013;î&#x161;&#x17D;
3*î&#x161;&#x2030;卌ĺŚ&#x201E;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ę&#x;&#x161;ă&#x2030;Źĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;朸갪暥ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;â&#x;&#x201A;䧎âŚ&#x203A;č&#x17D;&#x2021;ăĽ&#x2026;â&#x2122;śä&#x160;şćś¸ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x2030;¤éż&#x2C6;â´&#x2022;➲ă&#x201D;&#x201D;ĺ&#x192;˝ć&#x2039;ĺ&#x20AC;´
ĺ&#x17D;Ľç??ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ç??ä&#x161;?ď&#x2DC;ˇä&#x;?ĺ˛ ĺŽ&#x2022;éť&#x2021;ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ę&#x2026;žé&#x160;´ćś¸ď&#x2DC;ˇă&#x201E;¤č&#x17D;ťéŞŞăšťă &#x2013;⥲ď&#x2DC;šĺŤ˛ăĽśęŻ&#x201A;ä&#x203A;¸Ë&#x2122;ë?&#x2039;âŻ&#x2DC;ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;
ꨎĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x2122;§ę&#x;&#x161;㨼ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;䧎âŚ&#x203A;â&#x161;&#x203A;â&#x2122;śâ&#x153;Ťé?&#x2018;ć¤?â&#x17E;żč&#x17D;ťď&#x2DC;ˇč&#x17D;ťç˝?ä&#x2122;Śĺ&#x17E;şâ˘ŞćŹ˝â&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸é¨ë&#x201E;&#x201C;⥲ć?&#x20AC;㯯
â&#x17E;? ➲ĺ&#x2039;&#x17E;俲ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x;&#x192;âżťé¸?â°Śâ&#x161;Ľĺś?âżťâľ&#x152;朸ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ&#x20AC;°ęŹ&#x2014;ęŹ&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šĺŤ˛ăĽść&#x201C;żé&#x17D;šâ&#x2122;§ăźĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;朸玥č&#x17D;ťç&#x2DC;&#x17E; ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x2030;¤éŚąćś¸ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ĺ&#x20AC;°ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;&#x192;âŚ&#x203A;ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;ä&#x2013;°ćšąă &#x161;朸ć¤&#x161;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;â´&#x20AC;朎ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ä&#x2013;&#x2022;㸤ä§â&#x2122;śâ&#x2122;§ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸âśžâĄ˛ď&#x2DC;ˇ ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;é¸?ĺŚ&#x201E;ă &#x2013;⥲â&#x161;Ľď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;鿪㟊㟊ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x153;Ťĺ&#x2C6;żăĽŞćś¸â&#x153;Ťé?&#x2018;â&#x161;&#x203A;㡸ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;â&#x153;Ťâ&#x153;˝ćšąĺŚ&#x2021;颣ď&#x2DC;ˇ
an hour of choreography. I would have no idea how to start with
ă&#x20AC;Ľă˘Ťď&#x2DC;šĺŚ&#x2021;颣ă&#x201E;¤äŽ&#x2039;ä¨&#x17E;ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§â&#x161;&#x203A;㜸ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;朸ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žä&#x;?ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;č&#x201A;Ľăš ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;é&#x203A;&#x160;â&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;â¨&#x17E;â&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;â&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;
do very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent things. In the work, there's an appreciation that
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that. That is really interesting, how people use the same engine to goes both ways.
ä&#x17D;&#x201A;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x2030;&#x161;â¨&#x17E;朸â&#x153;˛ä&#x17E;&#x2022;Ő&#x201A;â&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;â&#x203A;łâ&#x2122;§ĺ&#x17E;şď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?ĺ&#x17E;şä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ă˝ č&#x2026;&#x2039;â°&#x;ă &#x161;äąłé&#x17D;Łĺ&#x2C6;żć?&#x20AC;ä&#x2018;&#x17E;ęĄ&#x20AC;朸
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would normally not do and likewise. So that creates a fairly rich ground. What the restrained, but technically complex counterpart. That tension was great,
especially with the way that Wayne choreographs, but also with normal people in front of the piece, as an extension to his suggestions. It is something that is
really beautiful to watch. We wonder how it is that Wayne does what he does and how the dancers move like that do. I'm sure that some of that fuels this
fascination for the body or movement, which ultimately come out in the Study
for Fifteen Points or for what we're showing for PACE. I'm sure that will fuel back and we will see what kinds of possibilities arise from exposing that work to
choreography and what triggers that. It's a ping-pong through diďŹ&#x20AC;erent time
frames or arches. Outside collaborators are really essential to the way we work. It s a bit like what we did in Harvard. We looked at how people work with
diďŹ&#x20AC;erent things, the in-depth knowledge or interest they have. It all comes back to the human body. If it's within the ďŹ eld of robotics, then it's how can robots work next to humans without the humans getting in the way and hurt. With
every subject, you get a glimpse and get a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent aspect of what it means to be human.
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My studio is a place of clashes: imperfection and chaos in close proximity
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resistance of physical materials gives rise to surprises, accidents, mistakes.
ë &#x2021;ă&#x2039;?ď&#x2DC;śä &#x2018;㢍ă&#x201E;¤ăŁ&#x;é&#x201C;?ď&#x2DC;ˇäž¸ç&#x201E;şč´&#x2013;ć¤&#x161;â&#x203A;łĺ&#x2030;&#x161;â´&#x20AC;ć¤?佌꼝ď&#x2DC;šă&#x20AC;Ťĺ&#x192;˝äł&#x2013;â&#x153;Ťă&#x20AC;Ľâ&#x2122;§ç??
to the comparatively ethereal praxis that is digital video-editing. The
In a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent way, digital processes also present obstacles: corruptions in image data, or glitches that arise when pure data meets display medium - whether out-of-gamut colours on a web browser or a leaky cartridge
messing up an otherwise perfect inkjet print. For instance, in a recent
video, I used 3-D CGI, digital eďŹ&#x20AC;ects, electronic music, all that trendiness, but as I put it together I realised that the artefacts - dust, scratches,
printing errors - in my original black-and-white analogue photographs from Sicily resonated the most in this world of instant, perfect images, endlessly reproduced on screen after screen after screen.
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Installation view of Derivative Work by U. Kanad Chakrabarti
SOUK, DERIVATIVES, SIMULATION: THE WORLD CREATED IN ART ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;ĽŐŽé ĽćŹ°ŐŽäşťâŤ¸ď&#x2DC;ť č°&#x20AC;é Žä¨žä&#x2019;&#x160;ĺ&#x153;&#x201C;朸â&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛
At a deeper level, I also identify the studio with other sites close to my artistic
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whether use or exchange, are bought and sold, with much noise and colour
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vision: souk, pescheria, trading desk. In all these places, things of value,
in the bargain. A vast hall ďŹ lled with Excel spreadsheets and ďŹ&#x201A;ashing lights, an
investment bank s trading ďŹ&#x201A;oor, not unlike Billingsgate or Tsukiji, was a charged site: smelling of sweat and cigarettes, ďŹ lthy, crowded with irascible characters
who barked into phones, the long cords of which snaked around like squid-ink spaghetti. Yet this is no longer: in the 1990s, one hollered trade orders down
to the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, where guys in bright jackets would buy order used to be scribbled on paper blotters , and passed to assistants to be typed into a computer. Today, most ďŹ nancial markets are entirely electronic, while bitcoin and blockchain apparently will revolutionise the essence of
money. Even the ďŹ sh-market has changed: my ďŹ shmonger now has an app that tracks his suppliers at sea and the soon-to-be-landed catch. Yet, as automation becomes ubiquitous, the individuals in the markets remain corporeal and
mortal. After all, the bit must still touch the stuďŹ&#x20AC; of everyday life: steel, plastic, concrete, carpet, amber, rice.
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âŚ?âŻ?ć&#x20AC;?é&#x201A;?ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;č&#x17D;&#x2026;ę&#x;?âŻ&#x2022;ć&#x2022;&#x161;朸äŤ?饝ę&#x2039;&#x201C;é ¤ćś¸â?&#x153;ĺ&#x192;&#x2019;ăŁ?ä&#x2018;źď&#x2DC;šč&#x17D;&#x2026;â§?äž&#x161;朸 卲ĺ?&#x152;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;čŚ&#x2C6;ć&#x161;śĺľłë&#x160;Ťä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľä§´ĺ&#x152;&#x152;â?Šćś¸ç&#x153;Ąă&#x2013;&#x2019;ć&#x20AC;&#x2019;ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľĺ°?â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x192;â°?ĺ&#x17E;şď&#x2DC;š
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朸ę&#x2020;&#x201E;čź&#x2018;ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľä&#x160;şă¸¤ď&#x2C6;Łę¨śăśŠâť&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;卲ć&#x161;śä?¤č&#x17D;&#x2026;ď&#x161;łâźŚă?&#x2020;ę&#x2022;&#x2013;ď&#x161;´ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ęł?ć? ä&#x152;&#x;⢾â&#x153;Ťę&#x2020;&#x201E;ę??ćś¸ęŹ ă&#x201E;?ä&#x161;?鹲é&#x161;śď&#x2DC;ˇâ˝°â˘Şĺ&#x192;˝ć&#x20AC;&#x2019;ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľâ&#x203A;łä&#x160;şä˝&#x2013;é&#x161;śî&#x161;&#x2030;䧎
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DERIVATIVES & INTEGRALS The dichotomy above, of physical studio and digital desk, of accident versus planning, leads me to another opposition. In both art and the market, I
é ĽćŹ°č&#x17D;&#x2026;䞎ă &#x2013;
see creation as arising from a continual process of taking derivatives and
â&#x2122;łéś¤ćś¸â&#x153;łâ´&#x2022;㟊ç&#x201D;¨ď&#x2DC;šęĄ ĺ&#x20AC;´ăť&#x153;ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ä&#x160;¨âĄ˛ăš&#x201D;č&#x17D;&#x2026;䞸ç&#x201E;şĺ&#x2018;˛ęŹ&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šęĄ ĺ&#x20AC;´ä &#x2018;
French diďŹ&#x20AC;erence, and both terms refer to an activity of perturbing a complex
ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľâ°?ç˝?â&#x161;Ľď&#x2DC;šä§ŽäŞžâśžé¸¤é&#x2039;&#x2022;⥲â&#x2122;§ç??ä°çłľă&#x2013;&#x2019;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x20AC;Źĺ´ŁćŹ°č&#x17D;&#x2026;䞎ă &#x2013;
integrating. What do I mean by that? Derivative is closely related to the
and reďŹ&#x201A;exive system, to ďŹ nd out how it reacts. By making hundreds of such perturbations, and noting the results, one forms an overall view, a map, of
the system s behaviour. Similarly, in the studio, the artist, faced with his/her unknowable creative process, is constantly trying things, often without a
conscious destination or objective. Add a bit of paint here, take some away
there, and most importantly, look at the result - and get others to look at it. This is a game of educated guesswork, guided mostly by intuition accumulated over the years.
of Germany, but why stop there, he s picking up Mesopotamia via Judaism,
䞎âŚ?ä&#x2014;&#x17E;ă&#x2022;&#x153;ĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x20AC;ˇäľŚâ´&#x20AC;⢾ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;ć?&#x20AC;â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x192;韊⨢ćŽ&#x2020;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;齥⯼î&#x161;&#x17D;â&#x17E;Žĺ§ťă&#x2013;&#x2C6;
and intensely physical. Nothing 3-D printed, no Instagram, no UV-on-Mylarâ&#x20AC;Ś
朸ď&#x2DC;śă&#x203A;&#x2021;ĺ&#x160;Ľćś¸č&#x17D;&#x2026;ĺ&#x2122;˛ä?&#x17E;ć&#x161;&#x;颜朸ä&#x160;¨âĄ˛ăš&#x201D;ăť&#x153;éŠ?ç&#x201E;Ľä¸ä˛ľă &#x2013;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â&#x2122;§éĽąď&#x2DC;ˇ
smashing that together with studio processes that are archaic, foundational,
Kiefer is, for me, notable for an ability to create a world within his paintings.
Artists produce or appropriate a set of symbols, practices, and movements,
朸éş&#x2022;ç&#x17D;&#x2018;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žä¸ćś¸ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x192;î&#x161;&#x17D;ď&#x161;łĺ´ŁćŹ°ď&#x161;´ćšąćŽšäąşéľ&#x153;ĺ˛ äż&#x2019;â&#x161;Ľćś¸ď&#x161;łé Ľ
diverse in appearance, but somehow when they re done, people think it hangs
âš&#x203A;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x161;&#x203A;岤â°&#x2026;â&#x2122;§ç??â°&#x2030;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ęĄ č&#x20AC;˘ă&#x201E;¤é¸ŽéĄ?ä&#x161;?ď&#x2DC;ˇĺ˛¤ä &#x2018;ď&#x2DC;šä§Žé&#x201C;&#x17E;朸â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝ď&#x161;łâ&#x2122;§
ć¤&#x161;é?&#x2018;é¸?ă¤&#x203A;猺窥㼜⥌⥲â´&#x20AC;⿞估ď&#x2DC;ˇčŻ&#x201D;ć&#x2039;䞸朰ĺŚ&#x201E;é¸?ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸äť âš&#x203A;â&#x161;&#x203A;
mythical Greek serpent Ouroboros, turn on themselves, and re-deďŹ ne the very
掯ď&#x161;´ď&#x2DC;šé¸?â°?é&#x2018;&#x201A;ćśźä¸â&#x2122;§âŚ?ç§&#x2014;â&#x153;Ľé&#x2020;łę§šâ&#x161;&#x201A;Ⱘ⿞ä&#x2122;źä&#x161;?朸ĺ´&#x17E;âš&#x203A;ď&#x2DC;šä &#x2018;ă&#x2022;Ź
é&#x17D;šă&#x20AC;&#x160;犥ĺ?&#x201C;ď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä§â&#x2122;§ă¤&#x203A;ęĄ ĺ&#x20AC;´é¸?ă¤&#x203A;çŚşçŞĄé ¤ć?&#x20AC;朸ď&#x2C6;Łĺ&#x2026;&#x17E;ă&#x2022;Źă&#x201E;¤ă&#x2013;&#x2019;
ă&#x2022;Źď&#x2DC;ˇę˛łâĄ&#x201A;ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ä&#x160;¨âĄ˛ăš&#x201D;â&#x161;Ľď&#x2DC;šćŽšč° é ŻăšťęŹ&#x2014;㟊â&#x17E;Žä§´ăĽ ĺ&#x160;˘ćżźćś¸âśž
⥲éş&#x2022;ç&#x17D;&#x2018;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;獤ä&#x152;˘ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;śä&#x152;&#x;ĺ&#x2030;¤ĺ&#x192;&#x2C6;ç&#x201E;ˇä &#x2018;ă&#x2022;Źč&#x17D;&#x2026;暥ĺ&#x17E;Śćś¸ď&#x2DC;śä°çłľă&#x2013;&#x2019; éš&#x17D;é ¤ă&#x17D;˛é&#x2018;&#x2018;ă&#x201E;¤ăť&#x153;éŠ?ď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?é&#x2026;â¸&#x2C6;â&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;ę˛?俲ď&#x2DC;šé˝ĄéźšâżĄäą&#x2C6;â&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x2030;&#x201C; ę&#x2026;žé&#x160;´ćś¸ĺ&#x192;˝ď&#x161;łé&#x152;&#x161;ćş?ď&#x161;´çŠĄĺ?&#x201C;㼜⥌ď&#x2DC;šéźŠĺ&#x2030;¤é&#x203A;&#x160;â´˝â&#x17E;&#x192;ď&#x161;łé&#x152;&#x161;ćş?ď&#x161;´ď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§
together. In the most exciting cases, these freshly-created worlds, like the category of art .
ON SIMULATION
traders, have to bring together a vast amount of historical and practical
㟊卲朸ă&#x20AC;Ľâ&#x2122;§ęą§âľąĺ&#x192;˝äžŽă &#x2013;ď&#x2DC;ˇč° é Żăšťď&#x2DC;šč&#x17D;&#x2026;ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľâ?&#x153;ĺ&#x192;&#x2019;ă&#x2020;&#x17E;朸ä&#x160;¨âĄ˛
excited about simulating, on an ďŹ rst-generation Apple Macintosh, Ronald
present circumstances. Then do it again. And again, for as long as one can.
ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â&#x2122;§éĽąď&#x2DC;šć¤&#x161;嚢饝俲朸č&#x2026; çŞ&#x201E;ď&#x2DC;šâą&#x201E;估揽âľ&#x152;掚â&#x2122;´ď&#x2DC;ˇéš&#x2039;ç˝&#x153;ä&#x2014;&#x201A;㨼ď&#x2DC;šćš&#x2C6;
sky that would shoot down Soviet ICBMs before they hit the U.S. Neither
Ⰼ㟊ĺ&#x20AC;´ĺ&#x2039;&#x17E;俲ď&#x2DC;śéş&#x2022;ç&#x17D;&#x2018;ď&#x2DC;śč° é Żă&#x20AC;ˇď&#x2DC;śâŚ?â&#x17E;&#x192;獤ë&#x20AC;żč&#x17D;&#x2026;č° é Żâ&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛â&#x203A;&#x201C;㢍
capitalism had triumphed - and the 26-year bull market in art and debt really
For artists, this amounts to knowledge of materials, processes, art history,
personal experience and the world-outside-art. This process of assimilation is
fundamental to forming an aesthetic judgement. It certainly isn t the only way
of art-making, but it seems to me to be particularly applicable to contemporary, politically-engaged art. Even within, or perhaps especially within, painting, one must accumulate, process, and channel 2,000+ years of art historyâ&#x20AC;Ś.
look at someone like Anselm Kiefer: here s a guy pulling in the entire history
⽍âľ&#x2DC;
㟊䧎⢾é&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x203A;&#x2021;ä&#x2019;źé&#x203A;&#x160;â&#x17E;&#x192;濧暥朸➲ă&#x201D;&#x201D;ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x17E;Žč&#x2026;&#x2039;㣠ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â&#x17E;Žćś¸ćŽĽâĄ˛é&#x2026;
consistency : some of the most interesting artists have work that is dramatically
A particular species of world-making that is relevant to my own practice is the
information, understand the context of that information, and apply it to
â&#x17E;Žćś¸ăť&#x153;éŠ?ĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤ %䊧⽍ď&#x2DC;šĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤*OTUBHSBNď&#x2DC;šâ&#x203A;łĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤67č&#x160;Łć&#x2122;&#x161;
imbuing them with an internal relationship, a coherence. Note, I don t say
㢍č&#x17D;&#x2026;é&#x17D;&#x2122;掼â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śćś¸ăźŠĺŤ˛ď&#x2DC;šăź&#x;䧎ä&#x2019;¸ă ˘ă&#x20AC;Ľâ&#x2122;§ç??㟊ç&#x201D;¨ď&#x2DC;ˇă&#x2013;&#x2C6;č° é Żč&#x17D;&#x2026;
ă&#x153;Ľćżźé&#x2122;?â&#x;¨ăśŠćś¸ć&#x17E;¤ĺş éş&#x2030;䨥ď&#x2DC;šć&#x2039;㢾ä&#x17D;&#x192;⢾ç?&#x17D;稥朸暏é&#x152;?䨞ä&#x2019;¸ăźŹď&#x2DC;ˇ
At the other analogical extreme lies integration. Artists, like market
顴éş&#x2022;ć&#x;&#x201D;ăŁ&#x2013;äž&#x2020;é&#x2039;&#x2022;é&#x152;Źâ&#x;&#x192;äŤă&#x20AC;&#x160;皥ç¨&#x2039;â&#x2122;śéş¨ç˘&#x153;â??äż&#x2019;âť&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;šăź&#x;é¸?â?&#x2030;ă&#x20AC;˘ç˝&#x2030;
ä&#x161;?颜暹âĄ&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2014;łę°ăź&#x;â&#x2122;§äžŽâ&#x161;Žč&#x17D;&#x2026;ĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x20AC;ˇâżťăť&#x153;ęĽšćšąęĄ ćś¸âĽ&#x152;ä&#x153;&#x201A;犥ă &#x2013; ă&#x20AC;łč&#x2026;&#x2039;ă&#x2013;&#x2019;â&#x2122;§âą&#x201E;ă&#x17D;˛é&#x2018;&#x2018;ď&#x2DC;ˇăźŠč° é Żăšťç˝&#x153;é&#x17D;&#x160;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?â?&#x2030;ď&#x161;łâĽ&#x152;ä&#x153;&#x201A;ď&#x161;´ă˝ ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ă &#x161;ĺ&#x20AC;´
朸çą?ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ćżźé&#x2122;?ď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?â?&#x2030;ćżźé&#x2122;?朸ď&#x2030;&#x161;ä˝?éş&#x2022;ç&#x17D;&#x2018;㟊ĺ&#x20AC;´ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ă?&#x2013;皥㡸ⴟĺ&#x20AC;Źĺ&#x192;˝ ę&#x2026;žé&#x160;´ćś¸ď&#x2DC;ˇă¸?ç&#x201E;ˇăť&#x153;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝č° é ŻâśžâĄ˛ćś¸ă&#x2C6;&#x201D;â&#x2122;§ĺ&#x20AC;°ä&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;䧎é&#x2019;˘ć?&#x20AC;㟊
computer simulation. I m dating myself here, but I remember getting really
č?&#x17E;ä&#x161;?ď&#x161;´î&#x161;&#x2030;â&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;ęŹ&#x152;ä&#x152;˘ĺ&#x2030;¤éŚąćś¸č° é ŻăšťâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇĺ&#x2030;¤čĄ˝ă ?ç??é&#x201A;?ęŹ&#x2014;â&#x2122;łćş? 鼹⢾鿪â&#x2122;śćšąç?&#x2013;朸âŻ&#x2039;ç¨&#x2021;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;ĺ&#x192;˝ćŽšä§ă&#x2026;ˇăž?ç&#x2C6;&#x161;â´&#x20AC;⢾朸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;&#x192;
âŚ&#x203A;â&#x161;&#x203A;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x2030;&#x161;é&#x152;?ä&#x2013;¤éşŹă&#x201E;¤ď&#x2DC;ˇé˝Ąâ?&#x2030;ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ć&#x2026;¨âš&#x203A;â&#x17E;&#x192;ä&#x2014;ąćś¸ĺ&#x2018;Şâ˘żé&#x2026;ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;暥 ćźžâ&#x153;Ťé¸?â?&#x2030;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ă&#x2DC;&#x2014;ä˘&#x20AC;â&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛ď&#x2DC;šć&#x;&#x201D;㼜ä&#x2039;&#x17E;č&#x152;Łç&#x2030;&#x;é&#x2018;¨é&#x2026;朸ę&#x152;&#x160;㽾čˇ&#x2018;ď&#x2DC;šč?&#x2C6;䧎 ĺŤ&#x2020;垧朸ă &#x161;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;âżśč?&#x2C6;䧎ę&#x2026;žćŹ°ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x2122;§âą&#x201E;ę&#x2026;žĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ăš çş?ď&#x161;łč° é Żď&#x161;´ď&#x2DC;ˇ
é&#x201D;¸ĺ&#x17E;¸äşźâ&#x;ŹćşŤ
Reagan s Star Wars missile-defence system - a network of satellites in the
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my simulation nor Star Wars itself ever got built: the USSR was already toast,
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hit its stride.
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At university in the 1990s, I started looking at how to visualise ďŹ nancial data
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then just becoming available in academia and Wall Street. This was still on
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comprising millions of data points, using high-speed computer graphics -
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Fictionalised website of the hedge fund : www.iodcapital.ch
Study for Fifteen Points, 2016: Motors, custom driver electronics, custom, software, aluminium, LEDs, computer 712 x 552 x 606 mm / Photography by Random International
and sell live hogs, dead cows, as well as the U.S. 30-year long bond . A trade
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Sun SPARCstations running on the U.S. Defense Department s ARPANET, now
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Carlo simulation, a glamorous name suggesting strapless gowns and baccarat
ĺ˘&#x201A;ĺ&#x2018;Şé&#x2039;&#x2022;é&#x152;?âť&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;šă¸?ęŚ&#x2018;â˝°ä§ć?&#x20AC;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ăˇ¸é Żć˛č&#x17D;&#x2026;č&#x17E; ć&#x2122;&#x2039;é łâ&#x161;Ľĺ&#x2026;&#x153;éş&#x2019;é&#x201E;&#x201E;⢪
recognised as the fore-runner of the Web. We used something called Monte-
tables, but really just a programme that would calculate how esoteric ďŹ nancial
derivatives would behave under thousands of diďŹ&#x20AC;erent hypothetical scenarios, so-called states of the world . One adds up all the possible ways the future
could unfold, takes an average of the whole thing, and gets an estimate of what the present moment might be worth. Conceptually, and procedurally, this is an echo of the integration I mentioned earlier.
In my last major programming project, in 2009, I wrote a ray-tracer from scratch. Ray-tracing is critical in digital cinema, video games, and computer vision. As the term implies, this involves following each possible ray of light from lamp
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to object to camera, then averaging together all the light-beams to render a
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metal, paper, fabric, or blood reďŹ&#x201A;ect, refract, and transmit light; what the nature
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scene. From a technical perspective, it is all about understanding materials: how
Installation view of Derivative Work by U. Kanad Chakrabarti
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of light itself is; where shadows come from. Yet, are these not the fundamental pre-occupations of still-life painting? What Chardin and Morandi did with eye
and hand, we now do in silicon: as in markets, so in painting, digital supersedes analogue. Yet I suspect something is thereby lostâ&#x20AC;Ś
Anyway, what s interesting to me about the examples above is this idea that
one can model the real world of external objects and phenomena. Curiously, the contemporary philosopher Nick Bostrom thinks about the theoretical
possibility that all of us, collectively, are part of a giant universe-scale simulation created by our distant descendants, a so-called post-human civilisation.
THE COLLECTORâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;S WORLD The notion of a created-world was something I explored in my installation
Derivative Work, a pun connecting the ďŹ nancial term with the cheaply-copied artwork. I was thinking of a hedge-fund manager s oďŹ&#x192;ce, perhaps situated above the Nobu on Berkeley Square, whose responsibilities are suďŹ&#x192;ciently
light to give him time to collect a great deal of art. Thus I ordered in copies
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of paintings by Raphael and On Kawara, and made loose re-interpretations of
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Breuer chair were 4-metre-high screenshots of desktops and spreadsheets,
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early Richard Serra and late Franz West. On the wall opposite a faux Marcel
while online, one could visit the ďŹ ctionalised website of the hedge fund (www. iodcapital.ch).
There is lots of boring theory about institutional critique, appropriation art, etc. I could bring to bear here, but really the work, for me, went back to my initial point in this essay: how do rough, painterly, corporeal things come together with perfect, corporate, digital images?
Did it work? I have no idea - but what was interesting was how viewers reacted - some basically threw up and walked out. Many however spent more than
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half an hour in the installation, thumbing through
documents, watching the video, going up close to
the blown-up screens. I could time it because I was
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also doing a performance in there - dressed in a suit,
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nauseating smell of rubber from my Serra-derivatives.
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judging by what they wrote and the cider cans, they
had a small party. To me, this deďŹ ned the installation
as a success - viewers, some and others repelled, found a space with which they could actively engage.
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Cao Fei was born and raised in Guangzhou, the Southern Gateway to China s reform and opening up process that began in the 1980s, introducing the
market economy to China and turning the country into a major international
trading nation. Her art has always focused on the relations between ordinary people and various issues in Chinese society, including youth culture,
urbanization, risk society, the impact of the Internet, globalisation and more. She combines keen observation with elements drawn from popular culture, ranging from street culture, to performance, virtual reality, video games,
animation, toys and Hollywood zombie movies, creating playful yet critical artworks.
Cao has been an active artist since graduating from university. Several of
her early works, such as Chain Reaction (2000), the Hip Hop Series (2003),
and Cosplayers (2004), present Chinese young people bringing the digital
virtual world into oďŹ&#x201E;ine real life, They are dramatic, performative and highly distinctive. . In the U-thèque collective, together with Ou Ning and Huang
Weikai, Cao made the documentary video San Yuan Li in 2003. This marks a
shift to broader her focus from concerns about the vicissitudes of the younger generation to the society and humanity in general. In Whose Utopia? (2006),
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she observes and depicts migrant workers in the Pearl River Delta area and
the gap between their dreams and reality. I.Mirror (2007) and RMB City (2007 - 2011) reďŹ&#x201A;ect Cao s source of inspiration turning from social reality to virtual reality. Constructing an avatar Ěś China Tracy â&#x20AC;&#x2019; in the online game Second
Life, I.Mirror (2007) explores the problems faced by not only China but also the world under globalisation: identity issues, ethics and understanding virtual reality in the digital age.
After becoming a mother, Cao Fei discovered a new link between her own
interests and popular culture from her child s favourite cartoon. East Winds
(2011) records the journey of a Chinese-manufactured East Wind-brand truck,
which has the smiling face of Thomas the Tank Engine tied to its grill. It barrels across urban highways to deliver refuse from a construction site in the city
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ART.ZIP: Why is the narrative of La Town in French?
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'exotic' atmosphere that contradicts that in the image itself. Also, the narrative
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La Town and our own reality today.
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Hong Kong 2015: playing on the LED façade of the International Commerce
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Pac Man and Tetris. In front of the Victoria Harbour, a symbol of Hong Kong s
century of prosperity, the huge screen with a Pac-Man lighting up the night sky seems to devour dreams.
The history of virtual reality toys can be traced back 400 years, because
the doll's house can be understood as the ďŹ rst toy of this kind for children.
Starting in 2014, Cao Fei constructed a utopian/dystopian city called La Town with miniature models she shopped from Taobao, the Chinese equivalent of
Amazon. Museums exist side by side with ďŹ&#x201A;ooded railway platforms, crumbling McDonald's, slums, a vulgar fountain with a statue of Venus, violence, murder
and looting, as well as sunny beaches somewhere in the outskirts and beautiful scenery. Accompanied by rousing music, this stop-motion ďŹ lm depicts the
history and fate of a ďŹ ctional city, reďŹ&#x201A;ecting the reality of many countries and
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disaster. The ďŹ lm shuttles us back and forth between the global microcosm of
ART.ZIP: Most of your work is clearly Chinese in setting, and it s about China or speciďŹ c places in China. In La Town, the high-speed train is Chinese, but there are plenty of signs in English. You seem to be moving towards a sort of generic, global space. Is that right? Why? CF: La Town is a work of total ďŹ ction. The world is post-apocalyptic. There is no La Town in the world but according to the myth I have created, it is a town
that has existed in many diďŹ&#x20AC;erent parts of the world in many diďŹ&#x20AC;erent time
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cities around the world. A far cry from the ideal home constructed in the
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and high level of capitalist development are captured in this miniature city
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traditional doll's house, but the various social problems caused by globalisation video of forty minutes, reminding us that what we are facing is a common crisis.
Elements such as games, daydreams, fantasies, ďŹ ction and reality run through
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Cao Fei s creative practice. The social problems and the political and economic
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illustrates her thought about of the era through her artworks, which have
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landscape of China and the world are fertile sources of her inspiration. She become ever more incisive after her twenty year-long artistic career.
Working together with the Experimenta programme of the British Film Institute and King s College London, the sixth Chinese Visual Festival (CVF) focuses
on Cao Fei. CVF is pleased to present Cao Fei: It s a Game , a retrospective screening of eight of the artist s moving image works from 2000-2015, to introduce her video art and creative trend to British audiences.
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Can Fei, Hip Hop: Guangzhou, 2003 (production still).
synchronized to sound piece references iconic images from 1980s video games
In the ďŹ lm, Hiroshima Mon Amour, a nuclear bomb in Hiroshima signiďŹ es
doomsday. This image is extended to La Town, an unknown city of the future,
where what was once perceived as doomsday has become an everyday
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Centre (ICC)Ěśthe tallest skyscraper in Hong Kong Ěś a large-scale animation
of La Town is adapted from the screenplay of the ďŹ lm, Hiroshima Mon Amour.
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(somewhere in the near future) to a dump at the city s edge (somewhere the
past is buried). Same Old, Brand New (2015) was commissioned for the Art Basel
CF: The ďŹ rst thing is that the sound of French is nice. It creates an irrelevant
periods. Literally, I combined models from many diďŹ&#x20AC;erent cultures and time
periods. I mixed them all together. So there is a German supermarket that has a deal on bratwurst; a McDonald s; the movie theater playing Gone with the
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Claus with his sleigh; and a high-speed train. This is the space of buďŹ&#x20AC;et culture:
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Wind; the famous fountain from Nuremberg, The Little Gooseman ; Santa
you can have sushi, a bowl of borscht and Cantonese-style dim sum all in one meal on one small table.
ART.ZIP: In RMB City you built a kind of fantasy city in Second Life. This time (in La Town) you are using maquettes and toy cars and trains to build another fantasy city. Can you tell us about why you ďŹ nd these spaces fascinating? And why did you want to work with these maquettes and models this time? In both La Town and your other recent work, Haze and Fog, there is a sense of doom and impending disaster. In fact, La Town is less playful than even Haze and Fog. What s worrying you so much?
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ęŹ ă&#x201E;?朸朎ĺ˝&#x201A;ă&#x2013;&#x2019;î&#x2122;¸ď&#x2DC;šâŁ&#x2DC;çŞ?ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;é¸?é&#x2026;&#x2020;ć?&#x20AC;䞸â&#x2122;śă˘ľćś¸č° é Żăšťä&#x2014;łâ&#x2122;śă&#x20AC;ł çˇ&#x201E;朸äż&#x2019;âť&#x2039;ä&#x2122;źç˝&#x152;ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śď&#x2DC;ˇ
㼜ĺ?&#x201C;âť?ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ&#x192;˝äż&#x2019;âť&#x2039;é&#x2018;¨é&#x201C;&#x192;ĺĽ&#x161;朸â&#x161;Ľä&#x2014;ąď&#x2DC;šé˝Ąë&#x17E;&#x2020;ćŁ&#x;â&#x2122;˛é&#x152;Źč° é Żăšťćś¸âĄ˛ ă&#x2026;ˇéżŞă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ĺ&#x17D;Ľç??ç&#x17D;&#x2018;ä?&#x17E;č?&#x2C6;ć?ă&#x201D;?éź&#x161;â&#x153;Ťé¸?â?&#x2030;â&#x161;Ľä&#x2014;ąâť&#x2039;äž&#x192;霤朸꼝ç&#x2021;&#x2DC;î&#x2122;ˇč°
é Żâ&#x161;Ľë&#x201E;&#x201C;ć¤?ć?&#x20AC;â&#x;&#x192;âŚ?ë&#x201E;&#x201C;朸ä&#x201C;˝ä&#x153;˛ăźŠäŤ&#x2019;â&#x161;Ľä&#x2014;ąćś¸ä&#x201C;˝âš´î&#x2122;¸ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x;&#x192;ĺ&#x17D;Ľç??ĺ&#x2C6;ż
ăŁ&#x201D;ć?ď&#x2DC;śćşŤăť&#x153;ď&#x2DC;śĺ&#x2026;°ä&#x161;?朸ď&#x2DC;śĺ&#x2C6;żć?&#x20AC;ę&#x;&#x161;ä˝&#x17E;ä&#x161;?朸é&#x201C;&#x192;ă&#x17E;Żâ&#x17E;?â°&#x2026;㟊ć¤?ăť&#x153;ćś¸ä Ž ćżźď&#x2DC;ˇ
CF: La Town (2014) is my next step after Haze and Fog (2013). Our era after the
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;⥚ ä&#x17D;&#x192;âľšă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ä&#x2018;&#x17E;ä&#x160;?ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ĺ&#x160;?朸✞⥲ă&#x20AC;łâ&#x;&#x192;ćş?â´&#x20AC;ĺ&#x2030;¤ä&#x2013;&#x17D;
way forward, and it is just like being lost in a haze. A kind of horror and fear
鼼㠢ĺ&#x192;&#x2C6;ęł?ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x153;Ťä&#x2013;&#x17D;㢾â&#x2122;śă &#x161;ćś¸ęĄ ĺ˛¤ď&#x2DC;šăĽśŐˇęŤ&#x201A;Ő¸é&#x2026; é¸?âŚ?ă&#x2013;&#x2019;çŽ&#x201D;朸
global economic recession is like entering an ice age. Society cannot ďŹ nd a
permeates most pop culture or ďŹ lms that feature fog. To me, it is this situation,
full of uncertainty, that I, as an artist or an individual, am basing my practice in. Maquettes and models remove the limits of real life shooting. I can play with
diďŹ&#x20AC;erent scenes. For example, when I was working on La Town (2014), the idea of ďŹ lming a museum setting came out at the end, and so we went to Buro Ole Scheeren to borrow the museum model.
ART.ZIP: Guangdong is the region where you grew up. Since early 1990s, Guangzhou has been the centre of avant-garde art in South China: with groups ranging from Big Tail Elephants (Chen Shaoxiong, Liang Juhui, Lin Yilin, and Xu Tan), Ou Ning s U-thèque, Borges Libreria, Observation Society (Hu Xiangqian, Anthony Yung Tsz Kin etc), and Video Bureau (Zhu Jia, Chen Tong, Fang Lu), to Huang Bian Station (Xu Tan, Huang Xiaopeng), as well as individual artists such as Qin Jin and Zhou Tao. This time for Experimenta at the BFI Southbank, we are co-curating the Pulse of the Pearl River Delta session to introducing these artists to British audiences. What are the interactions and mutual inďŹ&#x201A;uences between you and these independent avant-garde groups and artists? CF: Guangzhou is a long way from the centre of the art market, both
culturally and politically. In relative isolation, no matter how big or small the
organisations or artist groups are, they were born with a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent kind of charm - independent, dynamic, self-reďŹ&#x201A;ective and unique in their artistic language and their stance towards their observed subjects.
The members of Big Tail Elephants are mostly students of my parents (both of
whom taught at the Guangzhou Academy of Fine Arts) and born in the 1980s. Many young artists were my classmates, or came after me at the academy.
㢾â˝&#x201A;â&#x161;Ľă&#x2022;&#x153;ä˝&#x2013;ęŹ ę&#x;&#x161;ä˝&#x17E;朸尣䚚ă&#x201E;¤ćą&#x161;é¨&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;⥚侌âľ&#x152;âť?â?Šä&#x2013;&#x2022;⥲ă&#x2026;ˇ
鹲é&#x161;śăźŠâĄšćś¸âśžâĄ˛é¨&#x;ä&#x2013;&#x153;ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2122;źçŹ&#x17E;ĺ&#x20AC;°ä&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x152;äŁ&#x201A;ă&#x201E;¤é&#x17D;Łé&#x201D;¸ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;朸ę&#x2026;ž ë&#x;&#x160;ĺ&#x2030;¤ä&#x2122;Śĺ&#x17E;şćś¸ä&#x2022;§ę° î&#x161;&#x17D;
This circle is not big, but somehow it encapsulates the whole art world of the
ćżźâ&#x161;ĽăźŚäŞŞĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;朸ă&#x20AC;łč&#x2026;&#x2039;ä&#x161;?ď&#x2DC;ˇăĽśĺ?&#x201C;é&#x201C;&#x17E;Őˇé&#x201C;Şćś¸ć?ŚäŠŻé˝ŚŐ¸ĺ&#x192;˝ăźŠâ&#x2122;§ç??ć&#x2039;
were once exiled to and revolutions began, the Pearl River Delta is its unique
č&#x17D;&#x2026;ć&#x201D;¨ĺ&#x160;&#x2020;朸乳㟌 齥ë&#x17E;&#x2020;Őˇ-B 5PXOŐ¸ĺ&#x160;Łĺ&#x201A;&#x2C6;â&#x203A;&#x201C;ä&#x2013;&#x2022;朸ę&#x2026;žćŹ° â&#x;ŹâĄąé&#x203A;&#x160;
Pearl River Delta region. On the southern boundaries of China, where criminals culture that has shaped all of the artists from there. If the north of the country
is the cultural power centre, then art in the Pearl River Delta naturally avoid the restrictions that go with such a hierarchical situation and perceive reality in a more open, natural, sincere and insightful way.
ă&#x201E;¤ĺ&#x192;&#x2C6;â?Žćś¸ä&#x2014;ąŐ¸âżžĺ&#x192;Śč&#x17D;&#x2026;㼠ă &#x161;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żćś¸âŻ&#x201C;ę?ľä&#x2022;§âŤšč° é Żă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â˝&#x201A;â&#x161;Ľă&#x2022;&#x153;朸
are isolation and loneliness in all this rapid consumption, as well as insecurity and depression. Haze and Fog (2013), RMB City (2007 - 2011) and La Town
㝥ո✞⥲ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ę&#x;Śé¨&#x2014;ä?&#x17E;ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ę&#x;&#x20AC;î&#x2122;ˇ î&#x2122;¸î&#x161;&#x160;â°ŚĺŚ&#x201E;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ç&#x2018; ę&#x;ŚçŹ&#x17E;ä?&#x17E;
â&#x2122;łď&#x2DC;šă¸?âŚ&#x203A;鿪č&#x17D;&#x2026;ä&#x2019;&#x160;ç&#x153;Ąă&#x153;Ľă&#x161;&#x2013;ď&#x2DC;śç&#x2C6;˘ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śĺ&#x2030;¤ęĄ ď&#x2DC;šć?&#x201A;é&#x201D;¸ĺ&#x192;˝Őˇâ&#x17E;&#x192;ĺ&#x2014;ă&#x2122;š 㝥ոă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ď&#x161;ąç&#x2014;§â&#x153;łâ&#x17E;&#x192;揰ď&#x161;˛č´Ąäşźâ&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛ä&#x2019;&#x160;鸤朸ď&#x161;łäž¸ăśśă&#x2122;šä&#x2039;&#x2018;ď&#x161;´ ď&#x2DC;šéźŠĺ&#x192;˝ć&#x2039;
î&#x161;&#x2030; 朸ăť&#x153;ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ä&#x2019;&#x160;ç&#x153;Ąĺ&#x17E;¸ă&#x2DC;&#x2014;çŠ&#x2030;ă &#x2013;ä§ćś¸ĺ&#x160;Łĺ&#x201A;&#x2C6;â&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛Őˇ-B 5PXOŐ¸ď&#x2DC;šäŤ&#x2C6; 韊ĺ&#x192;˝ŐˇęŤ&#x201A;Ő¸âť?â?Šć¤?â&#x17E;żâť&#x2039;ăźâźŚćś¸ĺŽ?ĺ˛&#x;ę?&#x2C6;ç&#x2DC;˘ĺš&#x2039;âł&#x2013;ă&#x2022;źď&#x2DC;šéżŞä&#x201D;Ľć 襽ĺ&#x17D;Ľç??â&#x2122;śç&#x201E;ˇâ´&#x2014;朸č?&#x2C6;暹濨暽ď&#x2DC;šč´Ąäşźč&#x17D;&#x2026;溍ăť&#x153;â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śâ&#x153;˝ć?&#x20AC;é&#x161;ść?&#x2039;î&#x161;&#x160;
ç˝&#x153;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;䧎âŚ?â&#x17E;&#x192;ăžľęŹ&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?â?&#x2030;ä&#x17D;&#x192;䧎獤ĺ¨&#x153;â&#x153;ŤăśăŞ&#x;ă&#x201E;¤ćŹ°č&#x201A;Źď&#x2DC;šâĄ˛ć?&#x20AC;â°?
ă ?ăˇ&#x203A;㜊朸卢é&#x2039;ˇď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;âŻ&#x2022;âĄ&#x201A;â&#x203A;&#x2013;ĺ&#x2030;¤ä¨žä˝&#x17E;玣ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;â&#x17E;&#x192;揰朸ĺą&#x17D;ĺ´Šď&#x2DC;šäŞžä Ž ă&#x20AC;&#x152;â¸&#x201A;ę&#x2026;žĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ĺ°Łâľ&#x2DC;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x161;&#x203A;䏪㝍â&#x153;Ťĺą&#x17D;ä&#x17D;Żď&#x2DC;ˇ
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;é¸?âŚ?ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ĺ&#x192;˝ęĄ ĺ&#x20AC;´č´Ąäşźć¤?ăť&#x153;朸ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2013;°âĄšćś¸âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇăĽś Őˇâ&#x17E;&#x192;ĺ&#x2014;ă&#x2122;šăťĄŐ¸ă&#x201E;¤Őˇ-B 5PXOŐ¸ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ĺ&#x2030;¤é?Şă˘ľč´Ąäşźč&#x17D;&#x2026;ć¤?ăť&#x153;朸č&#x20AC;˘
粯ď&#x2DC;šâĄšä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;ćş?ä&#x2013;&#x160;â&#x17E;&#x192;âŚ&#x203A;çŽ â&#x2122;łçŽ â&#x2122;´ćś¸ę§ąę&#x2026;žé¨â&#x;¨ď&#x2DC;šă&#x2013;&#x2C6;珪â&#x2122;łćś¸â§ş ęŹ&#x2014;ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ć¤?é&#x;?
$'î&#x161;&#x2030;é¸?âŚ?ć&#x2039;ć?&#x201A;䞸ĺ&#x2030;ŞâšĄă?źä˝&#x2026;ä¸&#x2018;朸珪ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;â&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x201A;&#x201A;ä&#x2014;&#x201A;âľ&#x2013;⢾č?&#x2C6;溍
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âˇ&#x201D;ď&#x161;łä&#x2022;§âŤšćŁ&#x;â&#x2122;˛é&#x152;Źď&#x161;´ă&#x2039;˛âŻ&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;ˇç¤śéź&#x2021;ꤍâ¸&#x203A;ę§&#x2020;Őˇę´?ĺ&#x2026;&#x17E; Ő¸ď&#x2DC;śĺ§&#x2DC;ăť&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;śĺ&#x2030;&#x2020;
俢ď&#x2DC;śë&#x17E;&#x201D;â¨&#x20AC;⳯աâ&#x2122;˛âŻ&#x2039;ę&#x2026;˝Ő¸ď&#x2DC;šč&#x201E;&#x152;㠢⾚աčŻ?ĺ Ťęľ?ęľ?Ő¸ď&#x2DC;šă&#x192;°ĺż&#x201E;Őˇ Ő¸ď&#x2DC;š ç?&#x201D;ĺ&#x201E;˘Őˇâ&#x153;łâź§â&#x203A;°ä&#x17D;&#x192;â°&#x201D;âŚ?ĺ&#x2030;˘ę¨Ťâ&#x203A;°ăŁ&#x201D;Ő¸ă&#x201E;¤ë&#x17E;&#x201D;ăźë&#x2022;&#x192;ա䧎朸齥ę˛&#x17D;ç§&#x2039;č&#x2019;&#x20AC;朸 朎ăž?ď&#x2DC;ˇ
space, they are depict architecture and social space. This is true of RMB City - a
ä&#x2013;°âŻ&#x201C;ę?ľč° é Żâľ&#x152;掚â&#x17E;żäž¸ç&#x201E;şâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇç&#x2DC;&#x17E;â&#x2122;śă &#x161;겳ă&#x2DC;&#x2014;é¨&#x2014;ć˛ä&#x2022;§âŤšč° é Żď&#x2DC;šé¸&#x2019;
the end of the world -- La Town; -- and Haze and Fog - the modern concrete
ä&#x2022;§âŤšď&#x2DC;śâŻ&#x201C;ę?ľă&#x201E;¤ăť&#x153;ë&#x20AC;żę¨śä&#x2022;§ç &#x2021;ç&#x2018;&#x2013;朸ĺ&#x2030;˘ä?&#x17E;ä˝&#x17E;ĺ&#x192;Śę&#x;&#x20AC;ĺ&#x160;?갪暥î&#x161;&#x2030;ç &#x2021;ç&#x2018;&#x2013;ç&#x153;&#x2022;ă&#x2022; éş&#x2022;ăž?ĺ&#x192;Śď&#x2DC;śç&#x2DC;źăž?â&#x17E;&#x192;ď&#x2DC;śăˇ¸ç˝?ď&#x2DC;śč° é Żăšťćś¸â?&#x153;ĺ´Šé&#x2014;?ä? äąłé&#x17D;Łä&#x2022;§âŤšď&#x2DC;śę¨śä&#x2022;§ č&#x17D;&#x2026;č° é Żćś¸â°&#x2030;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;č&#x20AC;˘ç˛Żă&#x201E;¤ă ?ç??ć&#x201A;´ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ă&#x20AC;łč&#x2026;&#x2039;ä&#x161;?ď&#x2DC;ˇ
blurring between the real and virtual world. For me, these have been the years of marriage, having babies and being a mother of two. Time seems to have
slowed down, yet the current of the river of life is bringing out new sensibilities.
ART.ZIP: This following question is about virtual reality: In your works such as RMB City and La Town, the virtual world and reality are connected in many ways. What do you think of people s double identities online and oďŹ&#x201E;ine, and the phenomena of online personas? CF: Second Life is an online would supported by numerous internet servers,
EXPERIMENTA AT THE BFI SOUTHBANK In 2016, May s Experimenta of BFI includes It s a Game
and Pulse of Pearl River Delta co-curated by Cao Fei
and Zhan Xuhua. The latter features video art works by Chinese artist Chen Shaoxiong s Landscape-2 (1996),
Ou Ning, Cao Fei, Huang Weikai s San Yuan Li (2003), Hu
Xiangqian s Blue Flags Waving (2006), Zhou Tao s 1, 2, 3, 4
(2007-2008), Qin Jin s Nine Days, Eight Months and Twenty
copying the values of the real world, with the dark side of human nature, yet
Nine Years (2009), and Huang Xiaopeng s My Red and
become my window on the virtual world and an important cross-cultural
art development of Canton area.
with the close relationship of the virtual and the real but also the tearing up of
BFI s Experimenta (formerly Essential Experiments)
way to feel the happiness and sorrow of this age - and to ďŹ nd new ways in the
use the moving image to change the way we think of
also making it possible for individuals to create their fantasies. RMB City has
experiment. We are facing a new assemblage of individuality and the world
the original relationship. To be part of this live, on site and in person is the only unknown.
If Whose Utopia? (2006) is an exploration of the fantasies of and hopes for
ë&#x201E;&#x201C;č&#x17D;&#x2026;â&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;朸翚ă &#x2013;î&#x2122;ˇč´Ąäşźă&#x201E;¤ć¤?ăť&#x153;â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śćś¸ä&#x201D;Ľă &#x2013;ď&#x2DC;šč&#x17D;?ĺ&#x2030;¤
be rebirth after doomsday â&#x20AC;&#x2019; where we turn to the narrative of dystopia in
äŠ&#x17E;č&#x2026;&#x2039;ä Žćżźé¸?âŚ?ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żćś¸ĺ?żč&#x17D;&#x2026;湼ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x161;&#x203A;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;é¸?âŚ?âŻ?ć&#x20AC;?â&#x2122;śç&#x201E;ˇăš 朸ĺ&#x160;˘
system in La Town.
ęĄ çŚşćś¸ä¸&#x2DC;é&#x201E;î&#x2122;¸ď&#x2DC;šäŤ?é¨ĺ&#x20AC;´é¸?â?&#x2030;ď&#x161;łć¤?ă&#x153;Ľď&#x161;´ ď&#x2DC;šä§ć?&#x20AC;ă¸?âŚ&#x203A;朸â&#x2122;§â´&#x2022;㜊ď&#x2DC;š
éş&#x2030;䨥ď&#x161;´ă&#x201D;?ęł&#x192;ä&#x2022;§ăž?㢍ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x2030;&#x2020;俢č&#x17D;&#x2026;ĺť´ĺ&#x201A;&#x2019;č&#x17E; ă &#x2013;⥲ć?&#x20AC;č&#x2013;&#x160;ă&#x2022;&#x153;ꨜä&#x2022;§âźżĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ç&#x2DC;ź
ď&#x161;łăť&#x153;ë&#x20AC;żă&#x153;Ľď&#x161;´ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;č&#x2013;&#x160;ă&#x2022;&#x153;ꨜä&#x2022;§âźżĺ&#x2030;&#x161;â˝&#x201A;ä &#x2DC;â&#x161;Ľä&#x2014;ąč&#x17D;&#x160;éłľ ăź é?˝ĺ&#x20AC;´č° é Żç?ľâš&#x203A;
I made in Beijing - after I left my hometown of Guangzhou in 2006. In terms of
朸ă&#x20AC;łč&#x2026;&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;šć&#x2039;姽ď&#x2DC;šŐˇâ&#x17E;&#x192;ĺ&#x2014;ă&#x2122;šăťĄŐ¸ä§ć?&#x20AC;â&#x153;Ťä§Žă&#x2013;&#x2C6;č´Ąäşźâ&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛ćś¸é&#x152;&#x161;ăť&#x152; ç&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x2122;§âŚ?ęŹ&#x152;ä&#x152;˘ę&#x2026;žé&#x160;´ćś¸é¨&#x2014;äż&#x2019;âť&#x2039;ăť&#x153;ë&#x20AC;żă&#x153;Ľď&#x2DC;ˇä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;â&#x17E;&#x203A;ăŁ&#x201D;姝ęŹ&#x2014;č?&#x2020;âŚ?
ä&#x17D;&#x192; ĺ&#x2030;˘ćś¸č&#x2013;&#x160;ă&#x2022;&#x153;ꨜä&#x2022;§âźżĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ď&#x161;łăť&#x153;ë&#x20AC;żă&#x153;Ľď&#x161;´ę°ŞćšĄę¤&#x2018;ď&#x161;łĺ&#x2030;&#x2020;俢î&#x161;&#x2030;â&#x2122;§ă&#x153;Ľ
(2014) could be seen as marking a watershed. In terms of time, these are works
housing compound in Beijing permeated with a vague sense of paradox and a
ĺ&#x20AC;°ä§Žćś¸â´&#x20AC;揰ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ä&#x2018;&#x17E;ä&#x160;?ç?ľăž&#x20AC;âť?â?Šä&#x2013;&#x2022;朸✞⥲ď&#x2DC;šâ°Śâ&#x161;Ľâ&#x;&#x192;Őˇâ&#x17E;&#x192;ĺ&#x2014;ă&#x2122;š
ăĄ?ä&#x201E;śćś¸â&#x2122;§ç??ă&#x201D;?估ď&#x2DC;ˇ
resources and no one relates to the land emotionally. We are all outsiders. There
CF: Beijing Ěś Insecurity. As a city of immigrants, people compete for the
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ART.ZIP: The impact of the reform and opening up policy in South China appears often in your works created in Guangzhou before 2006. But after your relocation to Beijing, your works have been more diverse, as seen in Haze and Fog. How has this geopolitical transformation inďŹ&#x201A;uenced your creative path, way of thinking, and the key issues to consider and discuss?
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utopia under the constraints of globalized capital, La Town (2014) would
response to all the questions Whose Utopia? asked and collapse of the global
Bright Heart (2011) to showcases the avant-garde video
screens ďŹ lms by artists from around the world that ďŹ lm and how it functions. The monthly programme is accompanied by talks involving the artists. These artists work in a variety of formats and styles to investigate not only the subject but the very medium itself, whether digital or celluloid, to challenge the distinction between form and content and to inspire us to new interpretations of our world and its construction through images.
Installation view of Electronic Superhighway at Whitechapel Gallery
INTERVIEW WITH OMAR KHOLEIF ON ELECTRONIC SUPERHIGHWAY (2016-1966)
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Electronic Superhighway (2016-1966) at the Whitechapel Gallery is a recap
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together multimedia works including painting, video, sculpture, and
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of the history of Internet art from 1966 to the present day. The show brings photography by over 70 artists to illustrate how network and computer technologies expand the deďŹ nition of art. As a survey show, Electronic
Superhighway encompasses the diďŹ&#x20AC;erent art forms as technologically
contingent to the diverse debates that net artists positioned in relation to socio-political environments both online and oďŹ&#x201E;ine.
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㼜⥌äť?ăž?č° é Żăš çş?朸ď&#x2DC;ˇâĄ˛ć?&#x20AC;â&#x2122;§ĺŚ&#x201E;é&#x201D;&#x2026;ç &#x2021;ä&#x2019;朸ăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šŐˇę¨śăśŠ éŚ&#x201E;秚ë&#x201E;&#x17E;é¸ â°&#x2014;é¨&#x;Ő¸ĺˇ&#x2019;čŚ&#x2C6;â&#x153;Ťă ?ç??č° é Żä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šă˝ 㼜ă &#x161;ç&#x152;°äŞŽćś¸ćś°
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The interview with the curator Omar Kholeif reveals his curatorial strategies in
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behind his visual negotiation between the virtual and the physical inside the
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presenting the exhibition in the way of traveling back in time , the rationale gallery space, as well as his insight upon issues around democratisation of Internet art as he put together the varied kinds with diďŹ&#x20AC;erent discourses.
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ART.ZIP: What is the genesis of this project?
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very speciďŹ cally to do with the history of the Whitechapel as a museum of ďŹ rsts.
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OK: Up until a couple of months ago, I proposed the exhibition as something
Opened in 1901, it often gives artists, from Robert Rauschenberg, to Frida Kahlo, and Jackson Pollock their ďŹ rst solo show as well as lots of artists who have
engaged with new media, from Bruce Nauman, to Bill Viola, and to Chris Marker.
ă&#x203A;&#x201D;âśžç&#x201D;¨ĺ&#x20AC;´ ä&#x17D;&#x192;ď&#x2DC;šă¸?â&#x2122;§ćšŹć?&#x20AC;é?Şă˘ľâŻ&#x201C;ę?ľč° é Żăšťč&#x17D;&#x160;鳾ꝡĺŚ&#x201E;âŚ? ăž?ď&#x2DC;šâ˘żăĽśçš?â ć&#x161;śË&#x2122;⚪ć?â ď&#x2DC;śä&#x2019;źę&#x2026;˝éş¨Ë&#x2122;â˝&#x201C;峍ď&#x2DC;śâŞ&#x201A;âŻ&#x2DC;éş˝Ë&#x2122;ĺ˛&#x161;峍
âŻ&#x2DC;ď&#x2DC;šéźŠĺ&#x2030;¤é?Şă˘ľâľ&#x201E;揽ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;㯯ë&#x201E;&#x201C;âśžâĄ˛ćś¸č° é Żăšťď&#x2DC;šăĽśä&#x2039;&#x2019;ë&#x2030;&#x201C;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;Ë&#x2122;挧 ĺ&#x2030;&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;śĺŤ˛ć&#x2122;&#x2039;Ë&#x2122;çŹ&#x17E;ĺ§&#x2DC;äŹ&#x2DC;ă&#x201E;¤âŻ&#x2DC;ę&#x2026;˝ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;Ë&#x2122;ęź&#x203A;âŻ&#x2DC;ć&#x2122;&#x2039;ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
moment were. I ve been invested in the history of the Internet speciďŹ cally and
ĺ&#x20AC;´ĺ&#x192;˝ä§Žę&#x;&#x161;㨼ä&#x2122;źç˝&#x152;齥â?&#x2030;ć&#x161;śĺŠ&#x152;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ĺ&#x160;?ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;éś&#x2014;â´&#x2014;朸é&#x17D;Łé&#x201D;¸ä§´ć&#x2DC;°é&#x201D;¸ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x17E;&#x160;
to that. I was very excited to think about the possibility of creating a framework
é Żč&#x17D;&#x2021;鼹č&#x17D;&#x2026;ă¸?â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śćś¸ęĄ â¤&#x161;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žä&#x;?ă&#x17D;˛é&#x2018;&#x2018;ä&#x2019;&#x160;ĺ&#x153;&#x201C;â&#x2122;§âŚ?ĺ&#x2018;Ľĺ?şď&#x2DC;šâ&#x;&#x192;ĺ¨&#x153;
thinking about the context by which contemporary art has emerged in relation that would historically examine and locate those practices.
ë&#x17E;&#x192;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žâ&#x2122;§ćšŹăź 岤â&#x153;˝č&#x20AC;˘çŹŞĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x20AC;ˇćś¸ç &#x2021;ç&#x2018;&#x2013;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x161;&#x203A;â&#x2122;§ćšŹä&#x2122;źç˝&#x152;掚â&#x17E;żč° ă&#x20AC;ˇé&#x152;Źä?&#x17E;⢾ĺ˘&#x17E;é&#x2039;&#x2022;ă&#x201E;¤äŽ&#x2022;乥é¸?â?&#x2030;č° é Żăť&#x153;éŠ?朸⢾ĺ˝&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
So I proposed the exhibition with those in mind and as it developed over a
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that was very speciďŹ cally about the digital but it really became a show much
âĄ&#x17D;ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ä&#x2013;&#x2022;ă¸?é&#x161;śä§â&#x153;Ťâ&#x2122;§âŚ?ç˛é&#x2020;˘â&#x153;˝č&#x20AC;˘çŹŞĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x20AC;ˇćś¸ăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x153;˝č&#x20AC;˘çŹŞäŞŽ
number of years, the form started to take shape. It started of being a show
more about mapping the history of the Internet and thinking about networked technologies as opposed to purely about the digital, over the digital, and the composite part of that narrative and history.
I also wanted to think about the genesis of these movementsĚś very
speciďŹ cally about experiments in art and technology in 1966, which was this
event that happened one year before the ARPANET when Internet became a
concept, to computer-generated drawings, to the replacing of the hand with the machine, to early interactive art. As we moved into the present thinking
about the new aesthetic that had emerged in those digital spaces, we see that
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ć¤?â&#x153;Ťâ&#x153;˝č&#x20AC;˘çŹŞćś¸ĺ&#x161;&#x152;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;šę¨śč&#x2C6;Ąç&#x17D;&#x2018;ä&#x17D;¸ćŹ°ä§ă&#x2022;ŹâŤšď&#x2DC;šĺ Ľă?źĺ&#x2030;?â&#x17E;żäŠ&#x203A;ä&#x160;¨ď&#x2DC;ś ĺ&#x201A;?ĺ&#x160;?â?&#x153;â&#x153;˝č° é Żç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;ˇćŽšä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ç&#x2022;&#x20AC;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;掚â&#x17E;&#x203A;朸ç&#x201D;¨ă&#x153;Ľâ˘ľä&#x2122;źç˝&#x152;齥â?&#x2030; 朎ăž?č?&#x2C6;䞸ç&#x201E;şç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śćś¸ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;皥㡸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;朎ć¤?䞸ç&#x201E;şç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śĺ&#x201A;?ä&#x160;ş čź&#x2018;â°&#x2026;ć¤?ăť&#x153;揰ĺ´&#x17E;â&#x203A;&#x201C;â&#x161;Ľď&#x2DC;ˇ
ďŹ nally the digital spaces transfer into real world.
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There are a lot of paintings and sculptures that look at those tensions. I worked
äŹ&#x2DC;Ë&#x2122;ĺ&#x2026;&#x153;ć&#x2122;&#x2039;âŻ&#x2DC;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;韊ĺ&#x2030;¤ĺľłćŚąË&#x2122;ęĄ&#x20AC;âŻ&#x2DC;â§?â&#x2122;§éĽąă &#x2013;⥲ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;鿪çŞ?é¸?âŚ?
with a curatorial advisory committee of four people: Ed Halter, Erika Bolsom,
Sarah Perks, Heather Corcoran, each brought diďŹ&#x20AC;erent expertise and I started with a very long list of over 200 artists and started to discuss who the key
ďŹ gures were, what the key works were and how they would spatially speak to
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갪暥ä&#x152;&#x;⢾â&#x153;Ťâ&#x2122;śă &#x161;朸㟠ĺ&#x2122; ćżźé&#x2122;?ď&#x2DC;ˇâ&#x2122;§ę&#x;&#x161;㨼䧎ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§â&#x;¨éŚ&#x201E;éş&#x2022; ă ?č° é Żăšťćś¸ĺš˘ă&#x2039;˛ď&#x2DC;šć?ä&#x2013;&#x2022;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ę&#x;&#x161;㨼é&#x17D;Łé&#x201D;¸ă&#x2020;â?&#x2030;ĺ&#x192;˝ęĄ ę&#x2019;łćś¸â&#x17E;&#x192;ć&#x161;&#x; ă&#x201E;¤âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šâ&#x;&#x192;âżťă¸?âŚ&#x203A;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śé&#x2026;㼜⥌ă&#x192;&#x201E;ć¤?é¸?ĺ&#x201C;佌â&#x153;˛çŽ ď&#x2DC;ˇ
the story.
掚ăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;ä&#x2DC;°ä§ă&#x2DC;&#x2014;朸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽĺŻšăš 揽âŚ?äž&#x192;朸ĺ&#x20AC;°ä&#x2019;⢾ă&#x192;&#x201E;ć¤?ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2013;°
As the show started to come together, I decided very speciďŹ cally to run it
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backwards, to start in the present and the rational behind that had to do with thinking about how the history of the Internet is one that skews conventions.
It is of so many innovations and diagonal criss-crossings that I thought, rather
than a traditional historical route, was to start with the visual kind of cacophony of the present and then move back in time.
ART.ZIP: Is it not also maybe a wish to start with the technologies that might be the most familiar to the viewers, as a way of engaging them in a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent way? OK: In some ways it is about that idea of the immediacy of the media. Thinking
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speciďŹ cally about the idea of the relevance of those technologies,
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of things that will automatically click to the viewer and give them
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from Instagram to Photoshop, to even Karaoke as the very kind
an access point, or an entry point, was certainly something I was thinking about.
I ve also been trying to be more critical of that space, and so I
brought in a lot of paintings and sculptures that really seek to
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critique or examine those very contemporary technologies. For
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;é¸?ĺŚ&#x201E;ăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;â&#x161;ĽéźŠăž?â´&#x20AC;â&#x153;Ťä&#x2013;&#x17D;㢾â&#x;&#x192;â&#x153;˝č&#x20AC;˘çŹŞć?&#x20AC;✞⥲㯯â&#x17E;?朸珪çŞ&#x201E;
social media artwork because they are painted live as she was
縨ĺ&#x20AC;´ăž?ă &#x17D;â&#x203A;&#x201C;â&#x2122;łď&#x2DC;šâĄšă&#x20AC;łâ&#x;&#x192;é&#x201D;&#x201C;é&#x201D;&#x201C;ęĄ ĺ&#x20AC;´é¸?ç??č´Ąäşźč&#x17D;&#x2026;ć&#x161;&#x;颜ĺ&#x161;&#x152;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śćś¸č´&#x2013;ć¤&#x161;
example, Celia Hampton s chat random paintings is arguably a
trying to hold these conversations. But her medium is painting and she is a very traditional painter. So at the same time I am looking
at these familiar media or spaces, from what I believe to be a fairly unconventional perspective.
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ę˛&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šć&#x161;śâ´˝ĺ&#x192;˝é˝Ąâ?&#x2030;â&#x153;˝č&#x20AC;˘çŹŞč&#x17D;&#x2021;鼹ä&#x2013;&#x2022;ç˝&#x153;â´&#x20AC;ć¤?ćś¸č° é Żăšťď&#x2DC;ˇĺŤ˛ăĽśď&#x2DC;šâ&#x2122;§ćšŹăś¸ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;襽 â&#x2122;§âŚ?ĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x20AC;ˇă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šă˝ ĺ&#x192;˝ăĽśâĄŚč´&#x2013;ć¤&#x161;ă&#x203A;&#x2021;ĺ&#x20AC;´ć&#x2021;łé&#x152;&#x2019;ă?źăž?ç&#x2C6;&#x161;朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇă&#x2013;&#x2C6;掼ä?¤ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Ś â&#x161;Ľă&#x192;&#x201E;ć¤?佪ĺ?&#x201C;朸ä&#x160;´ćŽŻă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
Celia Hempton, Aldo and Jesi, Albania, 16th August, 2014. 2014. Oil on Canvas, 30 x 25 cm, Courtesy Southard Reid, London Š Celia Hempton
So I started thinking what the urgent discussions or debates of that speciďŹ c
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ART.ZIP: There are many Internet artists in the show based their work upon the Internet, but you physicalise them to digital print, to attached photographs on the wall. Can you speak a bit more about this engagement between the physical and the virtual?
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and especially who emerged after the advent of the World Wide Web. For
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OK: I think that it is a key concern historically for artists who work with media, example, there has always been a historical tension between representing
Olia Lialina, My Boyfriend Came Back from the War, 1996, Net Art â&#x20AC;&#x2019; screenshot, Courtesy the artist Š Olia Lialina
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There was a very critical concern that was always in the back of my
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commissioning and working with artists online. The thing that I tried to do was
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mind, particularly because of my own experience working in institutions,
to really think about artists who were engaging in that speciďŹ city, for example, Petra Cortright s paintings that are made by using a series of brush acquired
from deviant arches of the Photoshop canvases . They are literally hundreds of
layers of virtual paint, once you print the work, there is a very speciďŹ c back and forth with the printerĚś she is really thinking about the very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent texture eďŹ&#x20AC;ects in the digital image.
Likewise, with Jon Rafman who began this series of modernist 3D printed head. They start as digital series but the way they engage the technologyĚśalso
thinking about the form and aesthetics as physical objectĚśwas very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent. Also likewise Aleksandra Domanovi s hands pieces, which were based on
an utopian potential of the prothesis, man and the machine, physically, these hands are referring back to those very speciďŹ c Serbian scientist whose name
is Rajko Tomovi . They are based on his prosthesis, but each of them is layered with speciďŹ cities. For instance, you see Alan s apple as an evocation of Alan Turing.
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When they are in a ďŹ lm, when they become protruding objects, those images
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a very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent wayĚś and likewise in Amalia Ulman s Instagram performance
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become hermeneutic spatial eďŹ&#x20AC;ects for the viewer. They engage the sense in represented in photographs. I think it does something very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent than
simply following the performance, which is when you watch it online, whether
you re appreciating those examination of the female body. When you put them as object in a gallery, they become these almost fetish things, which speak
very critically to the fact that she is drawing a very particular portrait of how these performative technologies create those very speciďŹ c pressures on the
body. So because the body is such an important part of the virtual space, the
idea of materialising it in situ creates a very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent kind of atmosphere and a
very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent type of relationship with the viewer. But also, I was even thinking about our visitors who don t necessarily engage with those practices online, how these can be an entry point for them to start looking at those things
online. So I think that those things are symbiotic as opposed to exclusive of each other.
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Oliver Laric, Versions (Missile Variations), 2010, Airbrushed paint on aluminum composite board, in 10 parts, 25 x 45 cm (each) Private Collection, London, Image courtesy the artist and Seventeen Gallery, London, Š Oliver Laric
browser-based work in the gallery and how spatially it has to work diďŹ&#x20AC;erently.
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Rafael Lozano-Hemmer, Surface Tension, 1992, Plasma or rear-projection screen, computerised surveillance system, customâ&#x20AC;?made software, Dimensions variable, Courtesy the artist and Carroll/Fletcher, London. Installation photograph by Maxime Dufour, Š Rafael Lozano-Hemmer Installation view of Electronic Superhighway at Whitechapel Gallery
democratic spaces because of the option of that cooperation or governments.
from these things and how artists push and stretch
Paglen in the show of Autonomy Cube, the hybrotic cables that were done by
to create ideas. So in a sense I think doing an
Indeed I am very interested in artists critique about that, for instance, Trevor the National Security Agency.
But what I love about these spaces is that, for example, all the browser-based
things against their original intention or purpose
exhibition can achieve that from the conďŹ guration of it.
pieces shown on the second ďŹ&#x201A;oor which were co-curated with Rhizome: those are all the pieces that would continue to exist online. We very speciďŹ cally thought about how we will present them in the gallery. For example, Jan
Robert Leegte s piece is a browser-based artwork which is very aesthetic and
formal, is presented in the gallery in three diďŹ&#x20AC;erent web browsers, to illustrate how the technology shifts and evolves, and makes the actual formal makeup of these works become diďŹ&#x20AC;erent. And then, in a way, the exhibition has a
potential to show an archaeology of the media and material of what can
happen online , which, for me, is a very interesting thing which is also about
exploring this utopic narrative of democracy. Because sometimes it isn t very
democratic when technology shifts so quickly and becomes so obsolete that to maintaining the work that you produce becomes a huge burden. Another interest of mine is this idea of obsolescence and conservation. How these
more historic ďŹ gures have really struggled because of the ďŹ nancial pressures of maintaining these works into the 21st century.
So what I hope the show does is to create the conversation about these practices as I see this is a debate show to bring it, really a constellation
of hyperlinks together, this kind of crisscross and dovetails. Sometimes it
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context by which to engage is a varied kind of ďŹ&#x201A;uid and would allow this kind
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contradict each other but is also part of the beauty of the Internet that the of morphous discourses to emerge as well.
ART.ZIP: What was the most diďŹ&#x192;cult thing when you put together these very diďŹ&#x20AC;erent traditions? OK: For me one of the problems is that some exhibitions can be very didactic. And also I want to shift this idea that exhibition has to engage multiple
media and multiple functionsĚśbeing didactic overlooks boundary and
overly explanatory. There was a very sophisticated spatial negotiation with
my colleagues here to think about how the works were formally and spatially dialogue with each other to create a sense of connection. So as you walk
around this space you are confronted by various diďŹ&#x20AC;erent bodiesĚśfrom James
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Hannah Redler is a curator of cross-disciplinary projects
between art, photography, science and technology. Prior to her current role as associate art curator for the Open Data Institute, Hannah was Head of Science Museum Arts Programme from 2005-2014. At the time when the retrospective exhibition
Electronic Superhighway has just finished, Hannah talks to
us about her practice and the ways in which the field of new media has evolved, providing us an insightful view on the
directions and upcoming challenges of this unstable yet rich field of practices.
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Julie Freeman, We Need Us , 2014. Production still, courtesy the artist. Commissioned by the ODI and The Space.
UNSTABLE MEDIA: A CONVERSATION WITH ART CURATOR HANNAH REDLER 隶⹛♶㹁涸㯮넒 㼩鑨谀遮瘻㾝➃恍㫪 •榰䗞⹗
ART.ZIP: You trained as a ďŹ ne artist, where did the overlap between art and technology started, has it always been part of your practice?
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ART.ZIP: Do you mean social media?
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traditional art school, where I painted landscape and I did life drawings. I
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in the ďŹ rst room are responding to distributed images that we experience and
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understood the power of pioneering software artists. Christiane Paul argues
HR: It couldn t have been further away. I was a ďŹ ne art painter in a very
started working with photocopying technology towards the end of my degree. I graduated not only in the middle of the recession of the 1990s but also at the time where YBAs were at their heights. There was a lot of amazing art around, but there was also a lot of dross. Rather than being an artist, what I started
Study for Fifteen Points, 2016: Motors, custom driver electronics, custom, software, aluminium, LEDs, computer All photos ŠVitamin Creative Space& Cao Fei
to ďŹ nd more urgent was what I saw as the growing ďŹ eld of interactive media technology. I co-founded a digital media production company with some
friends. The World Wide Web was in its infancy, commercial browsers were not available and no one commissioned websites. We made CD-ROMs for several years. We had all sorts of clients, from book publishers to museums and the
BBC. It was a commercial company but we had a very artistic ethos. We were
determined to develop new software with every project we did. We employed some amazing coders, so software development was at the core of what we
were doing. I became really aware of the software art community and more
interested in the role that computers can potentially have in museums, which inďŹ&#x201A;uenced my second degree at the Royal College of Art in Curating.
ART.ZIP: You did a lecture at the Open Data Institute where you said that whether we use the term digital art or new media, it is all art in the end. How do you articulate the relationship between art and technology now? HR: Well, ďŹ rst of all, I don t like the term digital art because I think it s really
reductive. I think that it suggests one type of practice in a ďŹ eld, which I prefer to call new media. I think that V2_ in Rotterdam have the best description, which is unstable media. The problem with new is that it isn t always new .
ART.ZIP: Yes, and once you ve labelled it new you haven t answered what the newness might be. The term digital is also an attempt to come back to an understanding of the technology. In Digital Folklore, Olia Lialina and Dragan Espenschied explain that the technology we possess now has never been so sophisticated and yet our understating of it has never been so minimal.
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HR: What really interests me, if you look at the arc of video art practice
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ĺ&#x192;˝ćś¸ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;䪞ă¸?âŚ&#x203A;饌â&#x2122;łď&#x161;łĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ď&#x161;´ĺ&#x17E;Śç &#x17E;朸ă &#x161;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⽿ĺ°?
the pioneers at the beginning challenging the form right down to the material
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compared to computer art, digital art or new media art, is that what you get is level and later people work with diďŹ&#x20AC;erent issues. Software art pioneers like
David Rokeby wrote their own code, the net artists wrote their own code and in video art artists like Nam June Paik and Bill Viola were really pushing the
material qualities, like Paik s Magnet TV where he s disrupting the wave form
and Bill Viola aďŹ&#x20AC;ecting the construction of cameras with Sony. The YBAs in the 1990s were mostly working with the content of the video and, often criticised for that, although I like the work Douglas Gordon, Georgina Starr and others
made. Similarly in digital practice we now see a lot of younger artists working with the content of online imagery.
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HR: Yes, as well. You mentioned Electronic Superhighway, nearly all the works
download and share online. It seems, in my view, that the art world never really that to get media art you need media literacy and you need to understand
not just the art history but the science and technology histories that go with
them. To me, I think a media art work is probably a work that responds to the
full dimension of a technological proposition. I m very interested in the process of making and methods of production artists apply.
ART.ZIP: And ideas of labour and even craft perhaps? What s your view on the idea of craft in relation to new media, in a ďŹ eld where the term is often dismissed? HR: it depends who you re talking to. I m working at the moment as a curator in residence for the Open Data Institute. This year we ve got a sound artist in residence called Alex McLean who s a pioneer of live coding. Central to
his practice is an interest in patterns and he extends that to pre-electronic
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é&#x2026;ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ćş?âľ&#x152;é?Şă˘ľä&#x17D;&#x192;é°&#x2039;č° é ŻăšťâśžâĄ˛ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⢪揽朸â&#x203A;łĺ&#x192;˝çŹŞçŞ&#x201E;ă&#x2022;Ź ⍚朸â°&#x2030;ăş&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
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digital technologies such as knitting and weaving. He s researching diďŹ&#x20AC;erent
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;䧴é?ŞéźŠĺ&#x2030;¤âšŞâš&#x203A;朸ä&#x;?ĺ˛ ď&#x2DC;šćŹŠč?&#x203A;äŞŽč° î&#x161;&#x17D;ä?Ąĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;
narrative of software art and coding to oďŹ&#x20AC;er more expansive histories of us as
â&#x203A;&#x2013;ĺ&#x192;˝é&#x201E;&#x201E;éź?ä&#x2DC;&#x17D;朸ď&#x2DC;ˇ
narratives with various craft people. He s interested in challenging the hacker
humans capturing data in pattern forms, distributing it and giving it meaning. His practice is very current, very expansive and asks questions about those deďŹ nitions that we ve all experienced in certain hierarchies. I ve spent my
entire professional career working in science organisations or technology
organisations, but on art projects. If a project is going to work across disciplines you have to get rid of some of these hierarchies, otherwise you re dismissing too much stuďŹ&#x20AC;.
ART.ZIP: In an interview you gave while at the Science Museum, we are interested in the way you described art as a having the potential to shed a critical light onto technology, how would you negotiate that relationship, in the context of a large institution such as the Science Museum, between art as on the one hand a tool to render technology accessible and yet being critical of it? Hannah: I wouldn t use the term tool, because it makes the art sound utilised
ćş?ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;㯯ë&#x201E;&#x201C;â&#x161;Ľćś¸ď&#x161;łäŞŽč° ď&#x161;´ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;朸î&#x161;&#x17D;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;é¸?âŚ?ęą&#x2020;ă&#x161;&#x2013;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?âŚ?é&#x2018;&#x201A;âĄ&#x201A; )3î&#x161;&#x2030;é¸?ă&#x20AC;&#x160;寚ĺ&#x20AC;´ä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ă&#x201E;¤é&#x201C;Şé&#x17D;Łé&#x201D;¸é¸?âŚ?é&#x2018;¨ę˛&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§ŽćšĄâľšă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ę&#x;&#x161;ä˝&#x17E;䞸 äş&#x2122;㡸ę¤&#x17D;掚ę˝?ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ç&#x2DC;źăž?â&#x17E;&#x192;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;&#x203A;ä&#x17D;&#x192;䧎âŚ&#x203A;é¸?é&#x2026;ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§âĄ&#x2122;ę˝?ă&#x2013;&#x2019;朸č&#x20AC;Ťę°&#x2030;
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â&#x17E;ŽçŞ?⥲ć?&#x20AC;â&#x17E;&#x192;겳朸䧎âŚ&#x203A;ăž?ć¤?â&#x153;Ťĺ&#x2C6;żä&#x2018;&#x17E;ęĄ&#x20AC;朸ĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x20AC;ˇă&#x2022;Źĺ&#x2026;&#x17E;Ő&#x201A;䧎âŚ&#x203A; ĺ&#x192;˝ăĽśâĄŚé¸&#x2019;éş&#x2022;ĺ&#x17E;¸ä&#x2019;朸ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;ć ˝ă&#x20AC;&#x160;䞸äş&#x2122;ď&#x2DC;śćśŽéˇ&#x2018;䞸äş&#x2122;ď&#x2DC;šçŞ?â&#x153;Žäž¸äş&#x2122;
ä &#x2018;çş?朸ď&#x2DC;ˇâ&#x17E;Žćś¸č° é Żăť&#x153;éŠ?ĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2013;&#x17D;掚â&#x2122;´ćś¸ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2018;&#x17E;ęĄ&#x20AC;朸ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;Žä˛żâ´&#x20AC;朸ă&#x2030;? ę˛&#x2014;ęĄ â&#x203A;&#x2013;ĺ&#x17D;Ľâ?&#x2030;ăš çş?ď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;é¸?â?&#x2030;ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ăŁ?ăšťă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ĺ&#x17D;Ľâ?&#x2030;ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;秚犥ĺ&#x153;&#x201C;
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or used. Artists raised the issue of avoiding the word use in relation to
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it sound as if we were using the art, they didn t like it. I think that I have to
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working with art at the Science Museum with me very early on. If we made concede that, although I didn t use the art, other colleagues might have had other motivations for including art. But what we were hoping to do, was to
bring in the art to oďŹ&#x20AC;er diďŹ&#x20AC;erent perspectives, which was very much part of an interpretation strategy that started to acknowledge multiple voices, to challenge the Victorian talking down to approach, telling visitors what to
think, to be more discursive. That s a contemporary approach to museology; it isn t unique to the Science Museum. But it was quite important in the Science Museum because in science museums, research suggests, visitors expect to
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Natasha Caruana Married Man , installation shot, ODI, 2016. Photo Sarah Howe.
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be told what to think. So the art is there to challenge those assumptions. It is quite challenging to write really great art interpretation that communicates
everything about why an art work is in a science museum, I m not sure I ve ever cracked it!
ART.ZIP: In terms of interactions and the role of social media, with the museum space, where the museum becomes the starting point of conversations that are then extended online, is that something that you integrate in your curating process? HR: Personally I haven t done it very much; one reason is that I had two
children very closely around the point when social media lifted oďŹ&#x20AC;. I kind of missed the boat! However, what I ve observed are things I commissioned
just before having my kids did develop a big life of their own online through visitors posting stuďŹ&#x20AC; on social media, like Listening Post by Ben Rubin and
Mark Hansen. I didn t commission it, but I purchased it for the museum. The
Cockroach Tour of the Science Museum by SuperďŹ&#x201A;ex has a very strong life
online which we didn t plan, but which aďŹ&#x20AC;ected thinking about interpretation later on. I do see museums starting to consider social media but I don t think
any museum has really made it work yet. I think one of the reasons is that you have to give up the control and I think that it s really diďŹ&#x192;cult for organisations
to let people drive the agendas when the institution has constructed it already.
Social media does merge a lot with the curatorial and I foresee that it s going to become a much stronger dialogue moving forward. All organisations do think more about ways to communicate outwards now.
ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸ę°ŞćšĄä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;â&#x153;˛âŻ&#x201C;â&#x203A;łĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤ä&#x;?âľ&#x152;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;é¸?çŞ?䧎âŚ&#x203A;ä&#x2013;&#x2022;â˘ľćś¸č° é Ż ꥪę&#x2026;źä&#x160;¨âĄ˛éĽąâ&#x153;ŤâŚśę&#x2122;§âĄ˛ćŹ˝ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žç&#x201E;ˇăť&#x153;â&#x203A;łćş?âľ&#x152;â&#x153;Ťé?Şă˘ľâ˝&#x2C6;ć&#x161;&#x;ę¸ę&#x;&#x161;
㨼ç˝&#x152;äŁ&#x201A;ç&#x2C6;˘â?&#x153;㯯ë&#x201E;&#x201C;é¸?â&#x2122;§ë&#x;&#x160;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;䧎ćş?⢾ď&#x2DC;šćšĄâľšĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x;¤âĄŚâ&#x2122;§ ăšťâ˝&#x2C6;ć&#x161;&#x;ę¸ä§â¸&#x2020;éş&#x2022;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žä&#x;?é¸?â°Śâ&#x161;Ľćś¸âž˛ă&#x201D;&#x201D;â&#x203A;&#x201C;â&#x2122;§â¤&#x2018;ĺ&#x192;˝ă§¨ä&#x2014;łę°ä˝&#x17E;
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ä?Ąé&#x152;?ä&#x2013;¤ć¤?ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;çŽ ç&#x2DC;źăž?韊ĺ&#x2030;¤ć&#x201A;´â¸&#x201A;ă&#x152;¨î&#x161;&#x17D;韊ĺ&#x192;˝
and that s really interesting, but if you look at it, unless it is edited in some way and
é&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;é&#x152;?ä&#x2013;¤ä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;䪞â&#x2122;§â´&#x2014;鿪é&#x201C;&#x17E;ćš&#x2C6;â&#x153;Ťď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;䧎â&#x203A;łč ?â´&#x2022;
HR: The big diďŹ&#x20AC;erence is that people can enter into a dialogue with one another channelled, the level of communication is pretty basic. It s here s me in front of
the work , l like it, I love it, I hate this becauseâ&#x20AC;Ś it can be quite simple. I think you
would have to introduce some elements of choreography or control to bring more of a critical edge to the conversation. I mean, it s a super souped-up version of the
traditional visitor comments book. The traditional visitor comments book gets less interesting questions if they re not directed. I think questions include: what would
⢾ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ĺ&#x2030;¤ä&#x2122;Śĺ&#x17E;şćś¸é?¤é&#x17D;&#x2122;î&#x161;&#x17D;
ä&#x;?é&#x;?â&#x2122;śâľ&#x152;朸é&#x2018;¨é&#x160;´é&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;â&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸獤ĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x201E;¤ä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸ä¨&#x201D;ć?
â&#x2122;śă &#x161;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žâ&#x2122;śĺ&#x2030;&#x161;é&#x2019;˘ć?&#x20AC;ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x2030;¤čĄ˝â&#x2122;śă &#x161;獤ĺ¨&#x153;朸â&#x2122;śă &#x161;â&#x17E;&#x192;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ęŹ&#x2014;
㟊㼜姽鴞ć&#x17E;ĄćśŽăž?ćś¸äŞŽé Żĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ă&#x201E;¤ä§ŽăĽśâ´&#x20AC; â&#x2122;§éąźď&#x2DC;ˇ
ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śď&#x2DC;šćśŽăž?齥â?&#x2030;č&#x2026;&#x2039;㣠é&#x203A;&#x160;é&#x152;&#x161;ç˝?援揰㢾ę&#x2026;žä Žă¸˝ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ë&#x20AC;żď&#x2DC;śĺ&#x2030;¤
that way.
ART.ZIP: Do you think there s still potential for online curating though? Or has the moment passed? HR: I think that there are diďŹ&#x20AC;erent generations responding to diďŹ&#x20AC;erent ways. Those of us who have been around and have seen the entire arc might feel we ve said
everything but I m absolutely sure that there are 15 year olds who have things to say about it that I can t imagine because their experience of the world is a world
ăť&#x153;ë&#x201E;&#x201C;朸ä&#x160;¨âĄ˛ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śď&#x2DC;šä§Žă&#x2039;?姚ă&#x201E;¤č° é Żăšťă &#x2013;⥲äą?乞齥ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸
襽ăť&#x153;꼚乺é?¸ćś¸âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;ˇä&#x2013;°ă&#x20AC;Ľâ&#x2122;§ĺ&#x20AC;°ęŹ&#x2014;⢾ćş?ď&#x2DC;šä§Žé&#x152;?ä&#x2013;¤ćšĄâľš ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§âŚ?ăŁ?ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x2013;&#x2C6;é¸?ĺ&#x17E;şâ&#x2122;§âŚ?䧎âŚ&#x203A;ăŁ?㢾䞸â&#x17E;&#x192;鿪â&#x2122;śĺ&#x2030;&#x161;⿥
ăť&#x153;ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ć ˝ă&#x20AC;&#x160;ćżźé&#x2122;?朸â&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛é&#x2026;ď&#x2DC;šăť&#x153;ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śď&#x2DC;šĺŤ˛ăĽśé&#x201C;&#x17E;â˝&#x2C6;ć&#x161;&#x;ę¸ ă&#x201E;¤ćŽĽä?¤ćś¸ćšĄćś¸âĄŚă&#x2013;&#x2C6;î&#x161;&#x17D;䧎âŚ&#x203A; ä&#x17D;&#x192;âľšâ&#x203A;łé?Şĺ&#x2030;&#x161;⿥ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;ĺ&#x192;˝ć¤? ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ćżźé&#x2122;?ă˝ ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;㧨朸ĺ&#x2026;°č&#x2026;&#x2039;äŠ&#x203A;ĺ Ľé&#x2026;ď&#x2DC;ˇä¨žâ&#x;&#x192;ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ăŁ?朸濟é&#x2122;?ę§&#x152;
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away from mine. I wouldn t want to assume that diďŹ&#x20AC;erent people who have a
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;é¸?㽠䲿â´&#x20AC;â&#x153;Ťâ&#x2122;§âŚ?é&#x2019;˘é&#x2122;?é&#x201D;¸ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šçŽ â&#x2122;łćŹ°ćŹ´
questions than me.
ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ꨞé&#x160;´ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸âżŽę&#x2020;&#x20AC;ă&#x201E;¤éş&#x2022;ć&#x2021;?ă?źâ˘ľč´&#x2013;ć¤&#x161;
diďŹ&#x20AC;erent experience of this really speedy technology wouldn t have some diďŹ&#x20AC;erent
develop physical encounters with art, with art that is multisensory. On the other
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ç&#x201E;ˇâĽ&#x152;ď&#x2DC;šăźŠĺ&#x20AC;´â&#x2122;§âŚ? ĺ¨&#x201D;朸â&#x17E;&#x192;⢾é&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;韊ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;䧎âŚ&#x203A;
of questions I would like to ask if someone really wanted to harness social media in
would give people permission to do that, what would set the tone? There are a lot
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ART.ZIP: Maybe a consequence of that, is to ask what the form of those online conversations will be? What the potential of the design of social media interfaces, for instance, can have critically?
hand, I think there s a really big question, at the moment, about the purpose
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go there to acquire the knowledge. We might have gone there 20 years ago,
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Julie Freeman, We Need Us , 2014. Production still, courtesy the artist. Commissioned by the ODI and The Space.
of physical spaces, museums and galleries in a world where most of us don t but now that knowledge is in our smartphones. So the biggest knowledge
distribution system is not the library and museum system, it s the Internet and that shifts things.
ART.IP: Then it poses an epistemological question, what s the nature of that knowledge produced online and what are the parameters and ďŹ lters required to process that information as for instance the bubble eďŹ&#x20AC;ect , when there s too much information? HR: Well you still need to be informed, I can ďŹ nd stuďŹ&#x20AC; online because I know
what I m looking for. I am astonished frankly at the papers, the catalogues, the things that are online now, that were not online six years ago. I know what I m
looking for, so I think there s the question of how you ďŹ nd what you re looking
for, but I think that the level and depth of what you can get from your desktop is phenomenal.
ART.ZIP: As long as you know what you re looking for. There s perhaps a need to be guided? HR: I think it s a new life skill, we used to have librarians. There are very few proper librarians any longer. Who are the librarians of cyberspace?
Julie Freeman, We Need Us , 2014. Production still, courtesy the artist. Commissioned by the ODI and The Space.
ART.ZIP: Maybe there s also a lack of an appropriate language. Mathew Fuller wrote about the misleading metaphors such as the cloud or the bin we are using in describing technology. Is that something you struggle with when you have to articulate a curatorial narrative? HR: The thing I m struggling with is the fact that, ironically we need to
diďŹ&#x20AC;erentiate between art and science in order to discuss our combined
intentions, to bring them together. So you re constantly toggling between specialism and the desire to branch out and I think that we are evolving
diďŹ&#x20AC;erent languages. The problem with the languages you referred to is that they are corporate-led. They re going for the lowest common denominator
because they want mass understanding right now, because they want mass
buying right now. This is where I think artists are so important in this ďŹ eld, we need artists to make us stop and think. To consider the language, to consider
the impact that language has on our thinking, which needs to be challenged because even if you look at your encounter with your desktop today, for me,
compared to the desktop I ďŹ rst started working with in the late 1980s the guts are less visible. So we have a very seamless experience of computing that
doesn t let us know what we are being sucked into and that worries me. We
think in Google documents now, we think in Twitter characters. Someone will come up with something that s better. Our experience is always rooted in our existing knowledge, and I think that people who come up with a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent
knowledge, will make diďŹ&#x20AC;erent metaphors and that s how the language will evolve.
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The British pop industry only truly started with the Beatles, then we had a proliferation of recording studios, music managers,
bands and the whole industry evolved from that point. The hub of it was EMI, the primary manufacturing site in the UK, and Abbey Road Studios.
By the year 2000, most people were no longer optimistic about
the future of vinyl, whereas the Vinyl Factory team still believed in it. Through a conversation with the Creative Director Sean Bidder, we will see that the Vinyl Factory team continues to make a solid living promoting this classic format into the digital era.
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Bill Viola, The Talking Drum. Brewer Street Car Park (presented by The Vinyl Factory), London.
VINYL FACTORY: HUB OF CREATIVE COLLABORATION INTERVIEW WITH SEAN BIDDER 랱芢ⶽ䠑㣅䊨㜥 㼠鏞聰䛸 • 嫱䗞
ART.ZIP: Would you please introduce yourself? Your background and how you started working at the Vinyl Factory? SB: My initial background was in publishing, I edited music and art
magazines. Now, I am the creative director of the Vinyl Factory and that
means that I am lucky enough to oversee all the creative aspects of what we do. Primarily that involves working directly with the musicians and artists to create both large-scale exhibition events and also to release
records on vinyl and also on digital. It also encompasses everything from a single very speciďŹ c project to a mainstream album release.
Vinyl Factory was started in 2000 with the acquisition of the old EMI
factory, which was once the cornerstone of the British music industry.
When I joined there was a lot of pessimism about the future of vinyl in the at the end of the day there would be two formats left, vinyl and digital, because, as a physical format nothing is better than vinyl. You ll listen
to digital but you buy the vinyl. It is always going to be a mass product
versus something craft led, a collectible item. No matter how small the Sean Bidder. Photographed by Harry Liu.
audience is, it will be an audience that is loyal and faithful, excited and passionate and from that you have an opportunity to build.
Moreover with music, music is by its very nature international, it is a
language of its own. For us, we had this incredible opportunity; we had this heritage, this history, this craft that was unique to the plant and the
machinery. In the 60 s and 70 s a lot of time, money and energy was spent developing that. We also had the incredible heritage of the records that
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a pressing factory gives you a lot of ďŹ&#x201A;exibility in how you work, to have a record
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us we wanted to really engage with what a record company was at that
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gives you a platform to talk about the culture, the music and the vinyl that is
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were made there, from The Beatles to The Sex Pistols and Pink Floyd. For period of time, which was a creative manufacturing unit. To work with
musicians, to enable their music to be made and then sold, not what it
became which was more marketing, distant from the actual music. It was making the music, recording the music, mixing the music, and releasing
the music, that was the primary function. That is what I wanted to engage.
ART.ZIP: You mentioned that in the digital age, the Vinyl Factory has expanded to a number of areas, could you just elaborate on what the main structure of the Vinyl Factory is now and how has the Vinyl Factory changed since it was establishedďź&#x; SB: With the Vinyl Factory Group, the ďŹ rst thing that happened was
the purchase of the pressing plant, which was the core, when I joined
my initial role was to set up a magazine FACT which was initially based
around music and vinyl. It was a physical magazine for some time and
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then grew to a digital platform. With physical you can only make so many
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thing, whereas digital is worldwide straight away. The third thing we did
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copies and then you have to get them to people, it becomes its own
was to open a record shop called Phonica and so our model was to have
the various diďŹ&#x20AC;erent aspects of what we felt was core to vinyl culture and the passion for music beyond the mainstream, within our group. To have
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some of what we were doing with a record label and some of what we were work with some of the artists on the label to do exhibitions and events, and
engage with people in another way. We understood that the audience who
would buy the records was a small part of the overall audience who would be interested in our ideas. The vision for us was a little like the Bauhaus model,
to have the means of making things within your own grasp, so that it allows
you to experiment, that is the main thing. In terms of a music industry model we wanted to have our own label, make our own records, work directly with
musicians and artists and be able to create a structure that allowed us to do all that and sell records directly to people who wanted to buy them. At the same
time, we are always very collaborative with the way that we work, we also work
with other record labels and other galleries. I think that is important. For me the essence of what we do is collaborative, and we really want the creative people to be engaged. The more engaged they are the better the results are, which helps to steer it along.
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Ragnar Kjartansson, The Visitor Š The Vinyl Factory. Photography by Michael Wilkin,
music industry, people thought it wouldn t work. However, we thought
ART.ZIP: Vinyl Factory was founded because of its obsession with vinyl, what makes you start projects with visual artists? How did you select artists?
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In terms of funding, it s all done by the Vinyl Factory, we don t have sponsors,
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;7'朸ä§ç&#x201D;¨ĺ˝&#x201A;ĺ&#x20AC;´ăźŠë&#x17E;ąč&#x160;Ł ę°&#x2030;ĺ?żćś¸ć&#x201D;¨ä Śď&#x2DC;šâĄšâŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x192;˝
is really important to think of a record like that, it is not just music, it is also the physical,
âŚ&#x203A;ă&#x201E;¤č° é Żăšťă &#x2013;⥲ď&#x2DC;šć?&#x20AC;ä&#x2018;&#x2013;ć&#x2122;Śč&#x17D;&#x160;éłľăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;ă&#x201E;¤ĺ´&#x17E;âš&#x203A;ď&#x2DC;ˇ 䧎âŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x192;&#x2C6;术ď&#x2DC;šé&#x201E;&#x201E;䧎âŚ&#x203A;朸ć¤&#x161;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;ď&#x2030;&#x161;ä&#x2019;¸ćś¸é&#x152;&#x161;ćť&#x17E;ä&#x2013;&#x17D;㢾ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;
to present the shows as purely as we can. The other thing that is worth
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SB: The starting point for this is that I describe a record as an audio-visual experience, it the artwork and the design. When you stop thinking about pop music and when you
start thinking about sound, you can do anything with a record. Some things are more
popular, some things are more niche, some things are more art, some things are more for collectors and some things are for everyone. Then as we grew and developed we
ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;çŠ&#x2026;éŁ&#x2018;éĄ ë&#x17E;ąč&#x160;Łćś¸ă&#x20AC;Ťâ˝&#x2018;㟹䞸ď&#x2DC;ˇă&#x201D;&#x201D;姽ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸ĺ&#x17E;¸ä&#x2019; ĺ&#x2030;¤ë&#x;&#x160;é¨&#x2C6;⺍é&#x;?ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;ćšąâĄ&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;šäą?䳣â&#x153;Ťé&#x2020;˘âĄ˛ćś¸ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ˛ â&#x203A;łă˝ ä &#x2018;ă&#x201E;&#x201A;襽ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x153;Ťăť&#x153;ë&#x20AC;żćś¸éĄťĺ&#x160;Ľď&#x2DC;šé¸?ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;â&#x161;şé&#x160;´ćś¸ď&#x2DC;ˇ
then evolved into doing bigger exhibitions and installations. But essentially they are
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personal experience. The exhibition is a communal experience, we may all sit on our
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similar experiences. They are all physical and audio-visual. The record is almost the
computers or on our phones at home but when we come together in a physical space it is diďŹ&#x20AC;erent. For us, we see a connection between all these things.
When we started the record label in 2008 we started with all that in mind, the ďŹ rst
people we started working with were musicians but also had a strong visual identity
like Primal Scream, Massive Attack and Bryan Ferry. We also did exhibitions with some
people like Grace Jones and The xx. There was a strong art element to that, but it wasn t until two years later that we did a record with a ďŹ ne artist who made music - Martin
Creed. Martin had a band and we did a record with some of his music as well. We did a launch around Frieze, where the bands played live and he hand painted on the labels. The Vinyl Factory press
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Straight away as a visual artist, he saw it as an opportunity to do something interesting, he wasn t thinking about the market, just about the object and the potential. It then
occurred to me that there were a lot of visual artists that we could work with in this way, because they approach it from that perspective. A lot of them make music, work with
music, or make ďŹ lms where music is a part of that. I then began to contact those artists that I thought would be interesting to work with, so that is how we started that with Jeremy Deller and Gavin Turk.
ART.ZIP: Could you tell us more about these exhibitions/visual art projects you did? SB: Once we started along this path, there were more and more interest from the
artists. We had already been doing these exhibitions with musicians that were in a way themselves already art exhibitions, but because they came from musicians, no one
really viewed them as such. As the Group owned industrial spaces suddenly we had the
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we aren t intrinsically opposed to sponsorship, but we ďŹ nd that we like
mentioning is that we have another space, 180 The Strand, which is on the
north bank of the river Thames, next to Somerset House. The ďŹ rst big show is called The InďŹ nite Mix, it will be a collaboration with the Hayward gallery to create, ten large-scale video pieces by diďŹ&#x20AC;erent artists we have chosen,
that forefront art and sound and moving image together, and there is also
the physical experience of ďŹ lms. People will spend a couple of hours there.
For us, trying to create that kind of experience, you don t need to do that in a traditional gallery anymore, it s really about the space.
ART.ZIP: The Vinyl Factory works in partnerships with many art organizations, such as the Barbican, the White Cube and the Serpentine Galleries, how did you approach each other? SB: We work with a lot of artists and our focus is always based around creative collaboration, it always involves some element of sound or music and the
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opportunity to use these spaces, which were not developed, still existing in a raw state,
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people are looking for an experience, they are fantastic spaces. It is not such a great
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to showcase the work. Furthermore, I think for large scale audio-visual work, where
space if you are just putting pictures on a wall, a white gallery is better for that. Brewer Street is a great place in the heart of Soho, a car park, a big space in a central location.
We have been using that location for the past 3 years to really build up the program. We started with Richard Mosse and Ben Frost with a piece called The Enclave, which is this
incredible ďŹ lm shot in the Congo, which is shown on nine screens. We had 6,000 people come through the door with no press. You saw this engagement from people who
were really blown away by the production and the experience itself. From that moment we developed a program, with Conrad Shawcross, Ryoji Ikeda and other people. Every show we have done we have created a vinyl release to accompany the show.
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artists that we work with are always super motivated by this, collaboration is
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In terms of vinyl, it feels that the market continues to grow. It feels like lots of younger
â&#x153;Ťé?Şă˘ľĺ Ľĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ď&#x2DC;šęťˇé&#x160;´ćś¸â¤&#x2018;ĺ&#x192;˝ď&#x2C6;Łâ&#x161;&#x2020;ć˛â&#x17E;&#x192;ĺ&#x2014;鿪ĺ&#x2030;¤ĺ Ľ
present work for commercial sale and they develop the artists over a period of
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There are more records being released each year, more pressing plants being set up
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what excites them. Galleries traditionally, that is not really what they do, they
time. We are in a position that we are quite good collaborators, we do one thing and galleries do another, so we don t compete with each other on a like for like
basis. The other thing is that the public love this kind of artist installation events, performances. The galleries love that excitement, and they want to bring those
people into the galleries. These two things mean we have a lot of conversations
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with the galleries, and it tends to be focused around an artist. With the White
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Because he wanted performers and musicians to come into the space, to record
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Cube, it was Christian Marclay, he came to us and ask if we could work with him. them and press records in the gallery. Between us, we came up with a mobile
vinyl factory, which we then installed. We had hundreds of people trying to get
into the gallery to see stuďŹ&#x20AC;, loads of young people. With the Barbican they came to us and it was a similar thing. With the Serpentine, they have diďŹ&#x20AC;erent artists each year putting on shows and some of those artists are interested in sound
ART.ZIP: Vinyl has such a long history over 100 years, its popularity and signiďŹ cance have changed a lot too. What are the strategies of Vinyl Factory in the digital age? SB: For us, the future was always a combination of the incredible analogue
format, and the craft that went into that, the skill, the passion, the precision
engineering, the experience, married with the fact that you have this incredible audio-visual object that was more than just a digital ďŹ le. However it wouldn t
exist as a business without digital, what the Internet and what digital provides
you with are many things but primarily with the opportunity to engage with a
worldwide audience. Prior to digital you would have had to somehow let people around the world know you exist, through marketing and advertising.
Now we have the Vinyl Factory website as well, in the same way that we started
with FACT, the idea is to have this global portal with more people, more interest in vinyl and audio-visual art and how you engage with that. Our team recently produced a ďŹ lm at the pressing plant, a ďŹ lm that shows how a vinyl record is on Snapchat or on Facebook. Digital is getting faster and faster, you have to
adapt to the digital without changing the vinyl. This ďŹ lm got 1million likes, and the view on YouTube are going up and up. It is the two working together.
ART.ZIP: What do you think about the future of the Vinyl Factory? Has the Vinyl Factory got any plans for branching out further?
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ă &#x161;ćś¸č° é Żăšťď&#x2DC;šâ°&#x;ă &#x161;䊧鸤â&#x153;Ťâź§âŚ?ăŁ?ă&#x2DC;&#x2014;朸ä&#x2022;§âŤšé&#x2026;¤ç¸¨ď&#x2DC;šäŞžâŻ&#x201C;ę?ľ č° é Żč&#x17D;&#x2026;č&#x20AC;Ťę°&#x2030;ď&#x2DC;śç?ľâš&#x203A;ä&#x2022;§âŤšçŠĄă &#x2013;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â&#x2122;§éĽąď&#x2DC;šă &#x161;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;韊⺍ä?ꨜä&#x2022;§ćś¸
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think that will continue to be exciting.
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point in the 1970 s where there were 27 or 28 vinyl pressing plants in the world, and
they all went apart from the one in the UK. Now ironically people are scrambling to get hold of them, you could never have imagined that at the time.
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experience. I think there will be more opportunity in the way we use digital so I
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will just be one business within many business but if we can have a portal, a website
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creating something that you can t necessarily experience digitally, whether
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SB: Well, the future for us is to continue to use 180 The Strand, use that
opportunity to create an immersive experience. There are diďŹ&#x20AC;erent opportunities
Factory website is truly important for us, a voice in a way, like FACT, it has become for
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Carsten Nicolai: unicolor. Brewer Street Car Park (presented by The Vinyl Factory), London.
made in 60 seconds, because a lot of people are watching ďŹ lms on their phones,
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and the culture is continuing to grow, and we want to be at the heart of that. The Vinyl
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Carsten Nicolai: unicolor. Brewer Street Car Park (presented by The Vinyl Factory), London.
and music and we make it happen as a joint release.
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people are buying records and they don t have collections. It s even surprising to us.
REALITY THROUGH LIGHT: IN CONVERSATION WITH HELEN MARRIAGE 鷳麔教⯕涸植㻜⚆歲 㼩鑨嵳⧍ • 띊ꅽ㣼
In a hope to revitalise the cities in the midst of the darkness of winter,
Artichoke Trust made an epic return to Durham with its four-day light
festival Lumiere in November 2015, followed by another turn in central London two months after. Dotted around 30 different locations yet highly accessible by walk between the spots, the site-specific light
projects in London attracted an estimated one million visitors. There were fluorescent giant whales swimming above Piccadilly, phone boxes in
Mayfair transforming into goldfish bowls and light graffiti paint spraying around at King s Cross. These eccentric light installations were the
elements that transformed the city landscape into a real-life dream space. Building the live experience is central to what Helen Marriage, the
Founder and the CEO of the Artichoke, thinks about when she plans the
project. Lumiere suggests an alternative way for people to sense the city, through a different interpersonal relationship as opposed to the virtual
kind that is highly common in the contemporary digital age. The festival attracted thousands of people who left their routine journeys, plotting out adventures into the once familiar, now strange, city. This is what
Marriage had to say about the challenges that she faced in her curatorial
process and the extraordinary change that the festival brought to the city and to its residents.
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the streets, you have to be careful not to create a bottleneck or a jam. If you put
something very small at the little corner, so many people try to get to see it and this will cause problem.
architecture and the experience.
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Serving the purposes of the sponsor or the stakeholder who has asked us
Aquarium, Benedetto Bufalino & Benoit Deseille, Lumiere Durham 2013. Produced by Artichoke. Photo by Matthew Andrews.
Quality of the artwork and how it reveals a new side to the urban
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Crowd management and the logistics of making the event work. to work with that particular buildings.
us to do a study of whether Lumiere in London could work in the same way as
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HM: Sort of but not quite like that. The Mayor of London oďŹ&#x192;ce commissioned it was in North England, where we go every two years in Durham. We wrote a study for them, and also for several business districts that have the interest in animating West-end districts in the dead month of January when it is quiet,
end of Christmas, and everybody is feeling sad. They sponsored a lot of money and everybody was very excited about that possibility. However, it turned out
that they gave us 20% of the budget and then we raised the rest of the money from the business districts or from landowners from the central area. For
these organisations, having a big animated event is very important in terms of attracting people into the city and presenting London as a vibrant world.
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ART.ZIP: In order for the light to adapt perfectly to the architecture and urban space, what did you need to take into consideration when you curated it? Is there any subtle digital programming set in beforehand?
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the place that the artists felt suit their work best, but it also has to work in terms
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HM: Depends on the piece. When I curated the programme, I tried to choose
of particular buildings that we animate for the sponsor, for the government, or even to help with the crowd management. When you have so many people in
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of our job is to try and predict what the emotional reaction of the audience will
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make it serve all these diďŹ&#x20AC;erent purposes. What is most important, is the
audience member in front of these works. One of the most important aspects
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or department of transport, was really concerned what it feel like to be an
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When you do a programme in the public it is multi-layered in terms of what
audience s experienceĚśnone of these three people, government or sponsors
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1.
you are thinking about; you re always trying to ďŹ&#x201A;ex what you're talking to
ART.ZIP: We were so impressed by the Lumiere. According to reports from the government and the Guardian, the festival transformed the city. Was this public art programme a collaboration with the government in the ďŹ rst place?
ä˝&#x17E;ăźâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;&#x192;âŚ&#x203A;ă˝ ă&#x20AC;ŤăĽŞă&#x2022; â&#x2122;łâżĄćş?ď&#x2DC;šé¸?ĺ&#x17E;şă˝ ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;援揰ë&#x17E;&#x20AC;ć&#x2019;&#x2013;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
The curation of Lumiere is about the following aspects:
3.
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have.
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ART.ZIP: The psychological aďŹ&#x20AC;ect that the Lumiere had on the audience is very interesting as it made the people so happy and calm in this busy urban environment. Did you study the psychological eďŹ&#x20AC;ect of the geographical environment to the emotion and behaviour of individuals before organising this event?
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HM: I don t study anything particularly-it is just an instinct. I ve been doing it for really long time and I can feel that if I have one skill, it s being able to feel what
it will be like. I can imagine. It is really hard for the people who participateĚś the public, authority, London Underground, London buses, metropolitan district
council, etc., because they don't have the advantage of being able to imagine. They just feel that it is a technical problem: how do we keep the tube running
when so many people want to come, how do we interrupt the buses. Whereas
I am thinking about something that is more adaptive for a transformation, but I
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have to deal with all of these particular technical problems.
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The interesting part is imagining the city behaving diďŹ&#x20AC;erently. So when you re
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doing a huge event, in your heart you know that 200,000 people will come, I
say we have to close the road, the bus planner says this is really inconvenient because of the buses. What I am trying to explain is that you are only closing the road to accommodate the huge numbers of people who want to come,
and they won t mind if they can t get the bus, because they would rather be
standing in the road and walking ten minutes to a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent bus stop. Imagining they sit on the pavement, so you have to actually make adaptive changes in
your head about what the city is forĚś how it should work for. Because the will of the people is that makes the city behave diďŹ&#x20AC;erently.
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encountered. Part of the plan is to get people to move diďŹ&#x20AC;erently. Many
ok. So that is really complicated conversation, but you re right to be
ART.ZIP: Indeed, a great aspect about Lumiere is that it brought people away from their regular route in order to engage with the city more physically in a more imaginative way.
what it takes even in the planning, not just for the audience, but
between places. If you travel by underground you don t
to regard walking as a form of transport. They don't actually need the bus
I am second guessing how the public will behave and trying to
persuade people, whose job is to stick to routine and who were
very used to complain all the time, that if the bus doesn t run it's
focusing on quality of the emotional transformation, because that s those people I work with and those public authorities. They have to
understand the city and should be able to feel diďŹ&#x20AC;erently. And that s hard for them because their job is to make the city feel same.
HM: Yes, and more intimately in a way by discovering routes necessarily realise that the walk from Grosvenor Square to
Regent s Street takes literally 10 minutes and by taking that you realise the shops and architectures that you've never
of my team walked to the West end to King s Cross took 25-30 minutes;
that s not the journey that anybody would normally take. They get to the underground because it is quick, but actually in certain circumstances
they can t. I suppose one of the aims of Lumiere was to encourage people or the tube, the walking route and that experience was as important as whether the tube is running on time.
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most amazing scene. They were so beautiful and that was the
we have thousands of friends but actually never seeing them, or
services to important junctions for traďŹ&#x192;c; the buses have to be
our bedroom never stopping working. For me, Artichoke serves
huge argument with the transport planĚś you won t close up
able to run east west. And eventually on Friday when I stepped out of the tube, I walked into the road and all these people
were just lying on the road. I was almost in tears: that was the actually a unique one to people.
ART.ZIP: Yes, and you expressed before that in the age of digital technology, people were always doing online surďŹ ng, losing interpersonal and physical interaction. How would you comment on this now? HM: I am a very analogue person; I am very old. There is new
have to be there rather than being mediated to you through
big screen or television. I think in this world where we spend so
much time behind the screen, receiving information, we feel that
HM: It is very easy to criticise this kind of festival as waste of energy, but actually what we were trying now is to get the ordinary lighting switch oďŹ&#x20AC;, so there is a balance for what we were adding. Some of the pieces pointed to ecological or
environmental questions like the fountains at the Trafalgar Square roundabout, where I thought was beautiful but also made a very interesting point (Plastic
Islands by Luzinterruptus). The piece up at King s Cross is a campaign about
providing sustainable lighting for people with no access to power. Through the
programme you can educate and inform people, and change their view of light and its signiďŹ cance.
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between you will be nonstop. It is actually about making real connection.
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Lumiere will return to Durham for the fifth time, commissioned by Durham County Council, 16-19 November 2017. www.lumiere-festival.com
that something is real. You have to put it as live experience, you
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your friends, who are not on your Facebook list, but connections
Instagram, although the oďŹ&#x192;ce for the company does it. I can up with it, but for me, the real pleasure is about discovering
ART.ZIP: Walking is the cleanest form of transportation. Did you also consider the environmental issue, with the intention of invoking environmental consciousness in the individuals when you planned this project?
with thousands of other people that you don t know, who are not
This article and interview refer to the Lumiere festivals which took place in Durham in November 2015 and London in January 2016.
see how fascinating it is for the young people who have grown
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world has changed. You are invited and you can share the space
technology that I ďŹ nd it useful, but there is no passion. I don t feel the newest pieces and I don't do Facebook or Twitter or
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ç&#x201E;ˇăť&#x153;ĺ&#x192;˝ćś¸ď&#x2DC;šä?Ąâ&#x203A;&#x201C;âľšâ&#x203A;łé&#x201C;&#x17E;éş&#x2022;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;䞸ç&#x201E;şĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żâ&#x17E;&#x192;âŚ&#x203A;çą?
as an alternative reality, in which for these brief moments the
The second Lumiere London, commissioned by the Mayor of London, will take place from 18-21 January 2018. www.visitlondon.com/lumiere ĺ&#x160;Ľäż&#x2019;䲿âľ&#x152;朸ćš&#x2013;ç˘&#x153;ă&#x2122;Şć&#x2022;&#x161;âŻ&#x2022;č° é Żç&#x153;?ä¸ćś¸ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x20AC;´ ä&#x17D;&#x192; ĺ&#x2030;˘ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ĺ&#x2039;â§?č&#x17D;&#x160;鳾朸ď&#x2DC;śâ&#x;&#x192;âżťĺ&#x20AC;´ ä&#x17D;&#x192; ĺ&#x2030;˘ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â§?äž&#x161;č&#x17D;&#x160;éłľćś¸č° é Żç&#x153;?ď&#x2DC;ˇ
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Plastic Islands, Luzinterruptus, Lumiere London 2016, produced by Artichoke. Photo by Š Matthew Andrews
Keyframes, Groupe LAPS/Thomas VeyssiÊre (France). Lumiere London 2016, produced by Artichoke. Photograph Š Matthew Andrews 2016
right decision then, good that we closed it. That experience was
we don t share space with other people because we are sitting in
SONICA č&#x20AC;Şę°&#x2030;č°&#x20AC;é Žç&#x153;&#x17D;
Onion Skin, Olivier Ratsi
Sonica is a year-round programme of events dedicated to world-class sonic
arts, produced by Cryptic, Glasgow s internationally renowned art production house. Launched in Glasgow in 2012, it has since toured across six continents.
This extraordinary biennial festival brings together an unprecedented range of work by leading international artists and emerging British talents. In this issue, we have interviewed three featuring artists performing at the Sonica 2015,
Herman Kolgen, Mark Lyken, Lu Sisi, to see where their focus lies when it comes to addressing the construction of identity in the digital age.
Cryptic have a history of working with technology. Looking at how technology
can enhance a performance is very important to us. We live in a digital world now. There is a place for a bigger, more serious dialogue about how we can bring artists and scientists together. When scientists are developing new
technologies and prototypes, an artist will look at it in a completely diďŹ&#x20AC;erent
way â&#x20AC;&#x2019; so there's a lot of scope for bringing those together. In Sonica, these two
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realms are not divided...
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The beauty of music is that it takes you on a journey that s incredibly personal.
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I want to create something which leaves space for people to go on that journey.
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SCULPTING SOUND: INTERVIEW WITH HERMAN KOLGEN ꧧ㝕耪갉 㼠鏞饟削 • 猰肤
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Herman Kolgen, Seismik.
Herman Kolgen is an acclaimed multidisciplinary artist with more than two decades of experience on the international media arts scene. As an audiokinetic sculptor, he draws his inspiration from
the intimate relationship between sound and image. Kolgen s work takes the form of installations, video and film works, performances, and sound sculptures. He works in a constant cycle of exploration,
at the crossroads of different media, to conjure up a new technical language and a singular aesthetic. His attention to the impact of
territories on human life, and the resulting tensions and interplay
between these various elements, constitutes the core of his practice. Herman Kolgen has been awarded numerous prestigious prizes
including Ars Electronica and his works have been presented at the Venice Biennale and the Centre Pompidou.
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ART.ZIP: How did you start working in video art and what s your creative method?
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ä?Ąĺ&#x192;˝ăĽśâĄŚéĽĽâ&#x2122;łé&#x2039;&#x2022;ęą˝č° é ŻâśžâĄ˛â&#x203A;&#x201C;é¨&#x;朸î&#x161;&#x17D;ä?Ąćś¸âśž
to choose because I love music and visual art. When I had my
č&#x2026;&#x2039;ä&#x2DC;&#x17D;äą&#x2C6;â°Śâ&#x161;Ľćś¸â&#x2122;§âŚ?ď&#x2DC;ˇď&#x161;´ä§Žâ&#x2122;§ćšŹé&#x17D;šä&#x2013;¤â&#x17E;Žćś¸é&#x2018;¨ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;é&#x160;´ä§Žâ¨&#x17E;éź&#x2021;
at the same time I also had a band, so I would play music. Slowly I moved from
),î&#x161;&#x2030;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;䧎⟧ä&#x17D;&#x2122;ĺ¨&#x201D;ď&#x2DC;šăŁ?ĺ&#x161;&#x152;ĺ&#x192;˝âź§â&#x2122;Źĺ¨&#x201D;朸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏䧎朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇă˝ ę&#x;&#x161;㨼 ăž?â´&#x20AC;â&#x153;Ťď&#x2DC;ˇâĄ&#x17D;ă &#x161;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ď&#x2DC;šä§Žâżśĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§ä˝&#x2026;ĺ?żęĽ&#x2122;ď&#x2DC;šä¨žâ&#x;&#x192;䧎â&#x203A;łă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ć˘&#x2013;ę°&#x2030;ĺ?żď&#x2DC;ˇ
and visuals at the same time, that was in the 80 s and it totally
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HK: In my teenage years I started exhibiting, at around seventeen years old, but drums to all types of percussion. I also bought one of the ďŹ rst synthesizers. I d already started to create more texture. I was not interested in creating tunes [Herman starts to sing a tune] I was more interested in making texture and
sounds. At around twenty, I started to concentrate on the synthesizer and the percussion and to create new sounds. I started to make some music ďŹ lms, at this time it was not big. The attention was more to create a mood, I was not
interested to compose sound, but I saw the sound or the music like a sculpture, for me, it s always a sculpture. I move the sound. I sculpt the sound. At the
same time, I made paintings, I remember my father saw that I wanted to be
an artist. My father said to me: OK, you want to be an artist, you want to stop
school? If you can t choose between painting and music you will get lost. You
need to forget one. I always have this in my head, but it was impossible for me
⥲ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ˛ ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;î&#x161;&#x17D;
ć ¸ć ¸ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šę¤&#x2018;â&#x153;Ťć˘&#x2013;ë ˝ď&#x2DC;šä§Žâ&#x203A;łć˘&#x2013;â°Śâ&#x17E;Žćś¸äŠ§äššĺ?żă?źď&#x2DC;ˇä§ŽéĄ éş&#x2022;ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;
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ďŹ rst computer that I had enough speed for me to make music
changed my life. I didn t have to decide between two mediums, they had become one.
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I had some old VHS documentary about war. I put this in the
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a country, a clip from the country would come in. It s moved
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computer, and edited this within the movie, whenever you saw from my camera and old vhs to this new medium. After that I
went to my music studio and tried to make music, to ďŹ t with this. I composed something very fast. I made maybe three minutes
worth of work and I asked one of my friends to have a look and
they suggested I sent it to festivals etc. So I sent it to a festival and I won ďŹ rst prize. After that, I knew this was my medium.
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ART.ZIP: So the medium found you?
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;䨞â&#x;&#x192;ĺ&#x192;˝ăŻŻâ&#x17E;?䪪âľ&#x152;⥚â&#x153;Ťî&#x161;&#x17D;
each other. It s a love aďŹ&#x20AC;air! [he laughs].
âŚ&#x203A;âĄ&#x201A;ĺ&#x2030;&#x17D;ćšąé&#x2122;?ď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§ă&#x153;Ľä§&#x2014;ä Śî&#x2122;°î&#x2122;ˇâ&#x17E;Žç&#x2013;Žâ&#x153;ŤéĽąâ˘ľî&#x2122;¸
HK: Probably, yes. The ďŹ rst time I saw it, I think we recognized Herman Kolgen, Seismik.
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),î&#x161;&#x2030;ĺ&#x192;˝ćś¸ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2013;&#x17D;ă&#x20AC;łč&#x2026;&#x2039;ĺ&#x192;˝é¸?ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žç&#x2014;§â&#x2122;§ĺŚ&#x201E;é&#x2039;&#x2026;âľ&#x152;ă¸?ď&#x2DC;šă˝ é&#x152;?ä&#x2013;¤ä§Ž
ART.ZIP: Is there a common concept or theme that runs throughout your work?
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x201A;&#x201E;ĺ&#x2030;¤éĄ?ç&#x2018;ä?Ąä¨žĺ&#x2030;¤âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸ĺ&#x161;&#x152;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;䧴ç˝?â&#x161;şę˛&#x2014;î&#x161;&#x17D;
living creatures. It s the impact of territory on us. I was interested
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HK: I would say that the inďŹ&#x201A;uence is territories and human or
in what happens if you remove something that is very important for a human s equilibrium. I took a guy, who was totally naked
and put him in a water cistern for three days with four submarine cameras. I ďŹ lmed all of his behaviours and the change in his
psychology and facial expression over the days. This was just
a human naked in the blue water and what was his is reaction without oxygen. Another project I made after that was called
Dust . Again it s about territory as we have dust everywhere.
It s a microscopic territory. It s all about what happens with you, your relationship with your brain and body. The territory now
is the Internet. I m working on three new pieces. I work more in the contemporary art style. So it s not a performance with new
media. I m more on the side of thinking and reďŹ&#x201A;ection, to change
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your perception of something.
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ART.ZIP: When you started working, they didn t have a term like digital art. What you deďŹ ne as digital art and what is the meaning of this for you? Are you a digital artist?
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HK: I don t really like the term digital art . At the beginning, we needed this term to make a split, to explain that digital could
ĺ°?â´&#x20AC;ć¤?ď&#x2DC;ˇä?Ąĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;ăš çş?äž¸ăśśč° é Żćś¸ď&#x2DC;šăźŠä?Ąâ˘ľé&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?âŚ?é&#x2018;&#x201A;
),î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ă&#x2039;?姚ď&#x161;łäž¸ăśśč° é Żď&#x161;´é¸?âŚ?é&#x2018;&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;ˇâ&#x2122;§ę&#x;&#x161;㨼ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A; â&#x203A;&#x201C;䨞â&#x;&#x192;ꨞé&#x160;´é¸?âŚ?é&#x2018;&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ä&#x;?é&#x160;´č?&#x2C6;ç&#x201D;¨ę&#x;&#x152;䨊ď&#x2DC;šé&#x201C;&#x17E;ĺ&#x192;&#x2C6;䞸 㜜朸ĺ&#x152;&#x152;é&#x160;Żâ&#x203A;łă&#x20AC;łâ&#x;&#x192; ä§ ć?&#x20AC;č° é Żď&#x2DC;ˇćŽšĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸ä˛ż ĺ˛ ĺ&#x192;˝ă &#x2013; ć¤&#x161;
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ART.ZIP: Some young artists today just think about the equipment and the quality of the presentation. Is this the future or is it a problem?
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art, but they re more of game players, but it s still a way of expressing yourself.
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HK: Now it s trendy. We have a lot of new artists, who try to make this kind of
For me, the concept is important. If you want to push further you have to think, you need concepts. You have to ďŹ nd inside you what you re peculiarity is. If
everybody just ďŹ&#x201A;oats on the surface and plays with lines, it becomes boring.
just to play with the particle accelerator. I want to ďŹ nd the link between it and humans. Now we can make very complicated calculations with computers. A
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pixel and take a frequency and in the computer it 0 1 0 1. That s why
we can move pixels with sound and colour things by their frequency. Everything is possible because, on the computer, it s all the same
language. It s important, but sometimes it can be very reductive. I
have other work, which I don t make digitally. At the Conservatoire de musique in Montreal last spring, they asked me to build a
performance. I used a lot of technology, but some of it was just
analogue. I work with the concepts, and it depends on the concept and what I want to say. Sometimes I have to use diďŹ&#x20AC;erent tools;
sometimes I have to build software. It depends on what I really need in order to touch the audience. Sometimes it s just a pen, a piece of paper and a microphone. I use technology because a lot of things have already been done in painting and sculpture. I don t want
to repeat this. Technology has forced me to reinterpret and it has
changed the way we can create and changed our relationship with
objects. Technology has given me a new way to see and to modify.
It s a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent language. This is why art is always in motion. The way we are living brings new questions. Now, everything is digital and everyone is a digital artist.
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Herman Kolgen, Seismik.
Herman Kolgen. Photographed by Harry Liu.
computer is now very important to understand physics.
things, the language is more simple, just 1 s and 0 s. You can take a
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will use, but I have to deďŹ ne my direction and what I want to say. I don t want
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technology. I work from the centre of the concept. One of my next projects, and they asked me to create a piece. I don t know exactly which technology I
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I had a residency in a particle accelerator in France. I spent one week there
digital, you have analogue for example. Digital changed a lot of
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ART.ZIP: What do you think your next step is?
HK: Now I work on three or four new projects. I don t want to follow
be art. It was justiďŹ ed. Digital is so speciďŹ c, technology is more than
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Mark Lyken is an artist, filmmaker and composer based in rural
Dumfries & Galloway in Scotland. Utilizing his gifts as a musician
as well as a painter, he now creates observational film, music, and sound works, together with performances and installations that
have been presented nationally and internationally. His current work
explores the relationships to place and the interplay between nature and culture. This has led to collaborations with artists and scientists,
most notably from the University of Aberdeen s School of Biological Sciences. His film Mirror Lands, which co-directed with Emma Dove,
won the Award for Creativity at the IFFEST Documentary Art Festival 2014 in Bucharest and his latest audio-visual commission Oscillon Response premiered in Glasgow at Sonica 2015.
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Mark Lyken, Oscillon Response, Performance at Sonica 2015. Photo by Harry Liu.
GRAFFITI WITH SOUND AND LIGHT INTERVIEW WITH MARK LYKEN 䕧갉㝣뒩 㼠鏞꼛⯘v蟚肤
ART.ZIP: Would you tell us a bit of your background and how did you start your practice?
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element, but everything we do, even if it s an analogue process, is recorded
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separate things. I did an artist residency in the highlands with the School of
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capturing that data.
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ML: For 24 years or so I made electronic music and pieces of ďŹ lm as completely Biological Sciences at the University of Aberdeen, so I worked with ecologists.
They had a ďŹ eld station in a place called Cromarty, and they look at the impact of tourism and shipping on the local marine population. As I was interested in sand, I managed to get this amazing residency and go and hang with marine
biologists who do lots of underwater recordings. It was an absolute dream and a real turning point for me. They gave me a chance; they saw something in
my work, the music that I d made and the visuals. By that time, I d moved into
doing gallery paintings based on meteorological phenomena. I did a six-month residency with them and after that things kind of snowballed.
ART.ZIP: What do you think is the common theme throughout your work? What s your focus?
ML: It s mostly about sound. I m also interested in people s relationship to place. Why people are there, what they feel about it and then interviewing the next person. Their relationship to their town, city or village is completely diďŹ&#x20AC;erent interested in small and big. I think there s real poetry there.
ART.ZIP: For your performance Oscillon Response, you used the same machine to produce the work, but the original data is lost. What s the story?
digitally, and you can t escape that. It s just numbers, 0 s and 1 s, it s a way of
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ART.ZIP: Why do you have a digital methodology in your work?
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and when I was growing up both my parents worked for a company called
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ML: Again, because it s an accessible tool and it s what I grew up with. I m 42 Timex, and the factory in the town where I lived made the ZX Spectrum
computers in the early 80 s. So we all had these computers. Those computers didn t do anything unless you programmed them, so we all had a little
understanding of programming, and we all grew up with computers, from a really early age. I had my ďŹ rst computer in1982, and that s kind of incredible.
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ML: Yes, it s an oscilloscope, from the 1950 s, completely analogue; the trace
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it s gone. Ben Laposky, who made the original Oscillons, would photograph
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patterns are on the screen. You feed sound in, you see the patterns and then them with high-speed ďŹ lm and freeze those moments in time. When I came to do it, essentially I did the same thing. I had a really good camera, but with
a low-tech solution. I had a black material hood over the oscilloscope and me and I was just ďŹ lming. I had a modular synthesizer, so I had modules feeding
sound into the oscilloscope. It s a digital transfer of an analogue process. I was essentially using the same process as Laposky and I took all that raw footage
and then edited it digitally. I treated it like it was ďŹ lm, I wanted there to be some kind of narrative and structure.
I m really interested in mixing those two worlds: analogue and digital. I made digital work for a long time and I felt I was missing that tangible connection.
With the music as well, I started to get back to using synthesizers, things that I could touch, which I think is really important. I think there s a disconnection
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with digital, so I wanted to be able to engage with it in a tactile way.
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ART.ZIP: What do you think digital art is? Is there a way to describe such a large ďŹ eld?
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ML: I think it s like anything else. It s a medium, another set of tools to produce work. Whether it s a brush, camera or a mouse, it s all to do with taste, your
aesthetic sensibility. For me personally, I like to be able to introduce a tactile
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Mark Lyken. Photographed by Harry Liu.
to the person living next door. So I m really interested in those stories. I m
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tools incorrectly. You ll use the application in a way that the programmer never intended, and that s good because that s humanity.
ART.ZIP: You re also inďŹ&#x201A;uenced by GraďŹ&#x192;ti cultureâ&#x20AC;Ś
ML: GraďŹ&#x192;ti teaches you. You go into places that you really shouldn t be
and you size them up, you regard them diďŹ&#x20AC;erently, as a canvas. It makes
you really good at interacting with spaces. So there are lots of lessons that
quite scary characters in these places. I was never into mass acts of
vandalism, I like to ďŹ nd an abandoned place and try and work with it as harmoniously as you can be. I then decided that, after so many years of using spray paint, it was starting to aďŹ&#x20AC;ect my health. Particularly in the
80 s when it was car paint, now it s formulated. I still do mural works from
time to time, but it s more with emulsions, acrylics and things. As I do
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inside them.
ART.ZIP: There is, perhaps, a criticism that a new generation of digital artists cares more about the aesthetics of a work rather than a concept behind it. They are busy chasing the new eďŹ&#x20AC;ect. What do you think? ML: I think it s like anything. It is quite exciting, but the last thing you want
to do is to make work that follows any kind of fashion because it s going to
date. It s like when lens ďŹ&#x201A;are came out, now you look at advertising from the
90 s and everything has lens ďŹ&#x201A;are, it s just horrible. Personally, I like to use the
technology in the same way as if I was cutting actual ďŹ lm or tape. I like to use digital tools in the same way as if I was doing an analogue process. It s just
much easier, that s why I use it. You can have everything in your bag that you
need. There s no reason to be scared of that. I think it s crazy that people would regard it as any diďŹ&#x20AC;erent. It s all about output, that s the problem with digital art. It s printed out; people have a problem with that process as if it s just a
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ă&#x2013;&#x2C6; ä&#x17D;&#x192;â&#x17E;żď&#x2DC;šé˝Ąĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;䧎âŚ&#x203A;揽朸ĺ&#x192;˝éŽŚć&#x20AC;&#x161;ď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;ć¤?ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;揽朸ĺ&#x192;˝ę&#x201A;&#x201A;âľ&#x2013; ć&#x20AC;&#x161;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;韊ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;✞⥲â&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;ă &#x2014;掼ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;揽ä&#x2013;¤ĺ&#x2C6;żă˘ľćś¸ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x153;&#x152; č&#x160;Łă&#x201E;¤â&#x161;&#x2039;ć&#x17D;?ę˛?俲ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;ˇä&#x2013;&#x2022;⢾ęŚ&#x2018;襽䧎⿎č&#x17D;&#x2026;â&#x153;ŤéŚ&#x160;⢾éŚ&#x160;㢾朸ćŠ&#x2021;âĽ&#x192; 갪暥ď&#x2DC;šä§Žă˝ â&#x2122;śâą&#x201E;揽ă&#x2018;&#x2018;ć&#x20AC;&#x161;â&#x153;Ťď&#x2DC;ˇ
poster. It s a really strange thing.
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ART.ZIP: What do you think the relationship is between art and technology? Is technology just for bringing out the new tools, or is it changing the ďŹ eld of art?
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ML: I think they can t help but feed of one another. It s like a loop. You use
the tools, and then maybe use them in a diďŹ&#x20AC;erent way that the programmer intended. People drive it forward. People will always, and rightly so, use the
.-î&#x161;&#x2030;ĺ&#x2030;¤ćś¸ď&#x2DC;šé˝Ąă˝ ĺ&#x192;˝ď&#x2C6;Łĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ć&#x2122;?ĺ&#x160;Ľćś¸Őˇç&#x2C6;&#x161;ĺ˛&#x161;⿞估ոď&#x2DC;ˇéş&#x2022;⿥â&#x2122;§ä&#x17D;&#x192; ⥲â&#x153;Ťâ&#x2122;§éż&#x2C6;âˇ&#x153;ä&#x17E;&#x2022;ć&#x2122;&#x161;ď&#x2DC;šé¸?ĺ&#x192;˝ä§Žç&#x2014;§â&#x2122;§ĺŚ&#x201E;ĺś?é§&#x2C6;é¸?âŚ?ęą&#x2020;ă&#x161;&#x2013;ď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§éż&#x2C6;ĺ&#x2030;¤ 佌â&#x153;˛č&#x2030; ĺ&#x160;Ľćś¸ä&#x2022;§ć&#x2122;&#x161;ď&#x2DC;ˇă&#x201E;¤ä§Žă &#x2013;⥲朸韊ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§âĄ&#x2122;âľ&#x2013;⥲â&#x17E;&#x192;ă&#x201E;¤â&#x2122;§âĄ&#x2122;玥
âˇ&#x153;ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸갪暥ă&#x20AC;ա鼼â´&#x20AC;ă&#x17E;&#x201D;â&#x161;&#x2020;ď&#x2DC;šĺ§żâ°&#x2026;â˝&#x2C6;ć&#x2122;&#x2039;ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;Ő¸ď&#x2DC;ˇâ˝&#x2C6;ć&#x2122;&#x2039;ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;ĺ&#x192;˝ 蹤ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;貽ę&#x20AC;śä&#x2019;źę&#x2026;˝ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;čŚ&#x2C6;峍ęŻ&#x201A;⟌ă&#x161;&#x2013;朸â&#x2122;§âŚ?ăźę&#x201D;Šď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x2030;¤čĄ˝â&#x161;&#x2020;㢍ĺ&#x2018; ĺ˝&#x201A; 朸皥é&#x161;&#x2DC;ď&#x2DC;ˇă&#x201D;&#x201D;姽ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸ä&#x;?ĺ˛ ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x2018;?äş&#x2122;ĺ&#x201A;?⾚朸â&#x2122;§éż&#x2C6;č° é Żç§ ę?&#x2014;
more and more of these environmental projects, I can t be spraying.
ART.ZIP: Do you have any upcoming or recently completed projects?
ML: The Oscillon Response, it s brand new. I ve been working on that
for about six months, well for a year actually, but six months full-time.
So beyond that, I ve developed a feature ďŹ lm, my ďŹ rst foray into drama, so it s a scripted work. I have a producer and a screenwriter and we re working on a project that s called Out of the World and Into Borgue. Borgue is a little town in Dumfries and Galloway that s always has a
ML: No, I haven t. What I m interested in is the parallels village in the highlands I m very interested if there are
parallels between China or wherever. I m just interested in the everyday things. There s real poetry in people s everyday life and I like to try and reveal that. Going
somewhere as an outsider you would see things, that
you if lived there, you wouldn t, because you re used to it. I quite like being on the periphery.
ć&#x2122;&#x161;⢾乳é&#x17D;Łâ&#x17E;&#x192;âŚ&#x203A;㟊ĺ&#x20AC;´č´&#x2013;ă&#x2013;&#x2019;朸ćş?ĺ˛ ď&#x2DC;šâą&#x201E;é˘â&#x153;Žâ°Śâˇ&#x153;ä&#x17E;&#x2022;âť&#x2039;朸ä&#x2014;ąć¤&#x161;ĺ´&#x17E;âš&#x203A;
éş&#x2022;ç&#x17D;&#x2018;ď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;朸äŽ&#x2039;ä¨&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;é¸?â&#x203A;łä &#x2018;ă&#x201E;&#x201A;襽䧎č&#x2026;&#x2039;â&#x;&#x192;⥲ĺ&#x2C6;źăšťćś¸é¨â&#x;¨ć?&#x20AC; é¸?éż&#x2C6;ć&#x2122;&#x161;㜊ę&#x201A;&#x201A;ĺ?żď&#x2DC;ˇ
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ä?Ąâľ&#x152;éş&#x2022;â&#x161;Ľă&#x2022;&#x153;ă&#x152;¨î&#x161;&#x17D;
.-î&#x161;&#x2030;ĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žä Žč&#x17D;&#x2021;錹朸ĺ&#x152;&#x152;é&#x160;Żĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ĺ&#x20AC;°â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śćś¸ćšąâĄ&#x201A;ä&#x161;?ď&#x2DC;šä¨žâ&#x;&#x192;ď&#x2DC;šăĽś ĺ?&#x201C;䧎ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ë&#x201E;&#x17E;ă&#x2013;&#x2019;朸ăźć&#x20AC;&#x2019;ĺ&#x2039; éš&#x17D;é ¤âśžâĄ˛ď&#x2DC;šä§Žä Žč&#x17D;&#x2021;錹朸ĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â&#x161;Ľă&#x2022;&#x153;ĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x201A;&#x201E;ĺ&#x2030;¤
暹겳âĄ&#x201A;朸ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ĺ&#x20AC;°ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žă&#x20AC;ŤăźŠĺ&#x201A;&#x2C6;ä&#x152;˘ćś¸â&#x153;˛ć&#x161;&#x;ä Žč&#x17D;&#x2021;錹ď&#x2DC;ˇĺ&#x201A;&#x2C6;ä&#x152;˘ćŹ°ĺ´&#x17E;ä&#x152;&#x;ĺ&#x2030;¤čĄ˝
溍姝朸é&#x2018;&#x2DC;ä &#x2018;ď&#x2DC;šä§Žä&#x;?é&#x2018;&#x2018;襽⿥ă&#x192;&#x201E;ć¤?ď&#x2DC;ˇâ&#x;&#x192;㽡㢍â&#x17E;&#x192;朸é¨â&#x;¨âľ&#x152;č´&#x2013;鼼ď&#x2DC;šâĄš
â¤&#x2018;č&#x2026;&#x2039;朎ć¤?é?Şă˘ľćŽšă&#x2013;&#x2019;â&#x17E;&#x192;ć?&#x201A;ĺ˛ ăť&#x152;é&#x152;?朸â&#x2122;§ęŹ&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;⥚㟊â&#x2122;§â´&#x2014;ä&#x160;şçŤ¤çť˘ â&#x;&#x192;ć?&#x20AC;ä&#x152;˘ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žä&#x2013;&#x17D;ă&#x2039;?姚č?&#x2C6;䧎韚çŽ&#x201D;âť&#x2039;朸㽡㢍â&#x17E;&#x192;é¨â&#x;¨ď&#x2DC;ˇ
Mark Lyken, Oscillon Response. Photo by Tommy Ga Ken Wan
Mark Lyken, The Terrestrial Sea. Performance at Sonica 2015. Photo by Tommy Ga Ken Wan
to yourself, you have to be quite quiet. You meet some interesting, often
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means that I can score it as a composer as well.
between places, so if I m making work in a little ďŹ shing
you re painting places, as a graďŹ&#x192;ti artist, you don t want to draw attention
so you had that hands-on feel. My parents made them, so I knew what was
psychological way. It s a brand new challenge, but it
We re in this room now and I can hear the echo and I m thinking how I
you to be bold. I like to make work that is quite quiet and reďŹ&#x201A;ective. When
that you could open them up and repair them, because they were quite simple,
and documentary work, but taking it into a scripted
ART.ZIP: Have you been to China before?
could work with the space. The graďŹ&#x192;ti thing is really interesting. It teaches
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investigating people s idea to place from a previous art
I took from graďŹ&#x192;ti. When I go into a room, I might not think of it in terms of painting any more, but I think of it in terms of what I could do with it.
That kind of digital way feels natural. The thing about those computers was
reputation of being otherworldly, so it s an idea of
LU SISI: THE AGE OF DIGITAL/ANALOGUE 㼠鏞ス䙼倛 垷亻 侷㶶⻊儗➿
Lu Sisi is an award-winning artist from Inner Mongolia who now works out of London, his work combines electronic music, film,
and live performance. In 2013 he was awarded a Sky Academy Arts Scholarship to create The Age of Digital/Analogue. This takes an
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audio-visual journey across the UK and explores how our industry
➃㼟捀錚滞⦛ツ植薊㕜䊨噠ㄤ兞錚❜籽涸渿兞
a number of international festivals including the Glasgow Short Film
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and landscape is intertwined. His work has since been showcased at Festival. On top of this, he has also produced work for the BBC, Sky
Arts, and has been the creative director and composer for Haizhen Wang at Fashion weekends in London and Shanghai.
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Lu Sisi. Still image of Forest Rising (2016)
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from the machines themselves, I re-edited the ďŹ lm to try and embody their
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between its industrial development and the natural environment. I hope using
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personalities , ďŹ nally using music and video to show the country s connection
this new language will allow young people to connect with their cultural past.
While I was producing this project, I actually had many struggles and moments of deep contemplation, at points I was even ďŹ lled with self-doubt, so speaking personally, I also think this was a journey of self-exploration.
ART.ZIP: The language that you use in this project is very visually captivating, but behind the imagery, what is the message? LSS: In this excessively information driven age, it is rare to be given the
behind the scenes work, for example, when the shooting team and I spent 5 days and nights in the remote Scottish mountains. We saw many trees that
Lu Sisi
reached almost to the sky, but we never saw another person, we actually only
combines 13 diďŹ&#x20AC;erent soundtracks with various visual eďŹ&#x20AC;ects. The performance
ä&#x2019;⥲ć?&#x20AC;鯺ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ď&#x2DC;šé¸&#x2019;éş&#x2022; ꝡâ&#x2122;śă &#x161;â&#x161;şę˛&#x2014;朸ę°&#x2030;ĺ?żę&#x201A;&#x201A;ă &#x2013;â&#x2122;śă &#x161;â&#x161;şę˛&#x2014;朸
digitally simulates the development of modern society. Visually it incorporates a number of natural and industrial elements which I feel also share a
connection with my past. I grew up in Inner Mongolia and my father worked
in a factory, so my thoughts are always revolving around these points, I grew up loving both machinery and the great grass plains. At the same time I also felt my surroundings change and because of this I often think about the
complicated relationship between nature and industry. Later on, I came to the UK to study design at the University of Glasgow. Scotland has a long history of industrial development, and signs of the industrial revolution can still be seen
everywhere you look. I then embarked on further research into the relationship between nature and industry which I feel led to the creation of some
interesting pieces. I am also really grateful for meeting a tutor who encouraged me to develop myself, to study and master diďŹ&#x20AC;erent styles of production
like music, animation, video, and other techniques. In 2011, I then moved to London and took part in Sky Academy s national competition, fortunately
winning a ÂŁ30,000 scholarship and at the same time gaining extra ďŹ nancial
support from the Arts Council and via crowdfunding. I then spent nearly three years travelling all over the UK and ďŹ lming at many diďŹ&#x20AC;erent types of factory, both new and old. I had the opportunity to see every type of industry and visit many sites of natural beauty. After shooting was ďŹ nished, I tried again
to combine these two ideas of nature and industry. Using sound collected
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Lu Sisi. Making of The Age of Digital/Analogue (2013-2016)
themselves. Other than the performance itself, I hope to release more of the
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ĺ&#x2030;¤éş&#x2022;ä&#x2013;&#x17D;㢾乣äŠ&#x;ă&#x201E;¤ä&#x2122;źç˝&#x152;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x203A;&#x201C;âľšę°¸ä&#x;?㼪朸é&#x17D;&#x2122;âˇ&#x201D;é&#x201E;&#x201E;č?&#x2C6;ä&#x160;šâ&#x2122;śâ¨˘ă&#x2013;&#x2019;
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and natural landscapes we encountered many things that were interesting by
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âť&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;é¸?â?&#x2030;ĺ Ľă?źćşŤćś¸ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ę&#x192;?ď&#x2DC;ˇâ¨&#x17E;é¸?âŚ?é&#x201C;ę˛&#x2014;朸éş&#x2022;ç&#x17D;&#x2018;掚â&#x161;Ľä§Ž
I hope I have made something that will especially appeal to young people,
ďŹ nal desire for the project, although of course during the ďŹ lming of factories
LSS: This is a 45-minute performance, which uses music as a vector and
揽é¸?ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;é&#x201C;&#x192;é&#x17D;&#x160;é&#x203A;&#x160;ä&#x17D;&#x192;é°&#x2039;â&#x17E;&#x192;⿥ă&#x17D;˛é&#x2018;&#x2018;äąşé?¸é¸?â?&#x2030;éş&#x2022;⿥朸ĺ¨&#x153;ă&#x20AC;ˇäż&#x2019;
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;⥚䨞揽朸é&#x201C;&#x192;é&#x17D;&#x160;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;â&#x2122;łä&#x2013;&#x17D;ď&#x161;łäŤ&#x152;â&#x17E;&#x192;ćť&#x161;ć¤&#x2022;ď&#x161;´ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;
and bring across my own research into this topic. A documentary was not my
"35 ;*1 Őˇĺ&#x17E;¸äşź 䞸㜜âť&#x2039;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żŐ¸ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§âŚ?犥ă &#x2013;č&#x20AC;Ťę°&#x2030;č&#x17D;&#x2026;ä&#x2022;§âŤš
⢾ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ć¤?â&#x2122;§âŚ?ă&#x2022;&#x153;㚝朸ä&#x160;¨ĺ&#x2122; 朎ăž?ă&#x201E;¤č?&#x2C6;ć?ćŠ&#x2021;ă&#x17E;Żćś¸ęĄ â¤&#x161;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žä&#x2039;&#x17E;ĺ&#x160;&#x2020;
opportunity to present your own ideas, so with this project I hope I can
meaningfully connect with the audience. Using music, ďŹ lm and pop culture
ART.ZIP: The Age of Digital/Analogue is a combined audio and visual performance. Could you give us an outline of what it s about?
ä&#x160;¨ĺ&#x2122; â°?ç˝?犥ă &#x2013;鼹⢾ď&#x2DC;šé¸&#x2019;éş&#x2022;äą°ę§&#x152;â˘ľćś¸ĺ Ľă?źćś¸č&#x20AC;Ťę°&#x2030;ď&#x2DC;šę&#x2026;žĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;玥
ever saw a deer and two frogs. In fact, 200 years ago during the industrial
revolution, people cut down all of the trees on the mountain and not long
after that the animals also died out. 100 years later, people were paying more attention to the environment and started replanting those trees, now the
trees are towering high once again but the mountains themselves still have no trace of man and there aren t many animals. It is striking to think that it
was against this kind of serene backdrop that the industrial revolution took
place, destruction then restoration. This generation of youth might feel that
the industrial revolution is distant from them, but it was these developments
that led to our modern age, we are all still aďŹ&#x20AC;ected. Personal experiences aďŹ&#x20AC;ect us more than a documentary could, but the environmental problems aren t
something we can just discuss, mankind does need to live, but we also need to consider the environmental impact. In my opinion we need to live in balance, both protecting the environment and developing industry. At the same time
we should develop new techniques for tackling the environmental issues, this
Lu Sisi. Still image of The Age of Digital/Analogue (2013-16)
way we can attain a measure of balance.
ART.ZIP: How would you describe your occupation? More of an artist or a designer? I think that I am an artist that uses logic to create my work. In fact, I may not be
so much of an artist, although my work includes many visual and audial motifs. I use digital means to carry out my creativity, but my ideas are sometimes
deeply thought out design. I don t start work from a client s brief, I d much rather develop my own ideas.
ART.ZIP: How do you feel about digital art?
In my opinion digital art is this generation s art style, it represents a unique
attitude. In the beginning when everyone was trying digital art, it was novel and fresh, but with continued technological development, what was new is
no longer new. I still feel that artwork s meaning remains the most important factor and I have been slowly reducing my use of digital art. The foundation of my artwork is built on ďŹ lm, the application of digital is secondary; digital editing, digital eďŹ&#x20AC;ects and so on. Even so, the ďŹ rst time after I watched my
work, I started to wonder whether I was using digital art for digital s sake and
I decided to delete the purely digital sections. The intentionally showy display
ä&#x160;¨ĺ&#x2122; ęŹ ă&#x201E;?ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ĺ&#x160;?ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;&#x192;âŚ&#x203A;䪞ăż&#x2039;é&#x2026;朸ĺ&#x; 鿪ç&#x20AC;ˇâŻ&#x2022;揽ĺ&#x20AC;´é&#x2020;˘é¸¤ę?&#x2C6;ę&#x2DC;Žď&#x2DC;š
led to many unexpected results but in creating new work like this, accidents
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;⥚㟊č?&#x2C6;ä&#x160;šćś¸ăš âĄ&#x2122;ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x192;î&#x161;&#x17D;
can still feel the work contains a number of digitally artistic parts. I feel digital
ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;äŠ&#x17E;ę&#x2026;žĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ę&#x;&#x161;㨼ç??ĺ&#x2014;&#x192;ĺ&#x; ĺ&#x160; ď&#x2DC;šć¤?ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;齥â?&#x2030;ę&#x2026;žĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ç??ĺ&#x2014;&#x192;朸ĺ&#x; ĺ&#x160; â&#x203A;ł
have the perfect quality of ďŹ lm on YouTube, and my source material is ďŹ lm
✞⥲ç˝?ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žâ¨&#x17E;朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇĺˇ&#x2019;čŚ&#x2C6;â&#x153;Ťä&#x2013;&#x17D;㢾é&#x2039;&#x2022;é&#x152;?ă&#x201E;¤č &#x192;é&#x152;?ă&#x201E;¤ć¤?ă&#x153;Ľë&#x201E;&#x201C;
was obscuring the cinematic and visual language. However, despite this, you art is a good method of expression, but it is the content that separates the good and bad parts.
ART.ZIP: During the production of this work, have you encountered any technical diďŹ&#x192;culties? How do you approach conďŹ&#x201A;ict between the technical issues and the artistic presentation? LSS: I have encountered more than one technical problem during my
performances but I don t see this as a major failure. To explain a bit, my
performance shows my live experience with multiple machines, I call it the
Grand Array . It is the grafting of many diďŹ&#x20AC;erent types of media. Using a variety
of technologies I created a platform to generate my performances, which has
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é&#x160;´â¨&#x17E;朸ĺ&#x192;˝çŞ?â°?ç˝?䲿âŁ&#x2DC;â&#x2122;§âŚ?ä&#x17D;&#x201A;é&#x201A;&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;šâĽ&#x192;é&#x161;&#x152;ćŠ&#x2021;ă&#x17E;Żď&#x2DC;šćśŽăž?ä&#x160;¨ĺ&#x2122; ď&#x2DC;šă &#x161;
ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x203A;łé&#x160;´ćśŽăž?ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ç&#x152;°äŞŽâ˘ľâźżé&#x201D;&#x2026;ćŠ&#x2021;âĽ&#x192;ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2013;°ç˝&#x153;麨âľ&#x152;â&#x2122;§âŚ?ä&#x17D;&#x201A;é&#x201A;&#x201A; 朸ä&#x2014;&#x2026;ćŠ&#x2021;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
are hard to avoid. With the limitations of internet speed it is impossible to
quality. In the performances, there are more than 400 clips that need real time synchronized rendering to deliver 2K quality whilst at the same time I also
need to deliver the music. Altogether the platform itself actually has over 900 clips that could be run, and so for both hardware and software this is a big
struggle. After I ďŹ nished building the platform, I really didn t know what the results would be, for me that was the challenge. I m still not keen on simply showing a pre-edited output, for me faking a performance would be like
-44î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎é&#x152;?ä&#x2013;¤ä§Žĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§âŚ?â&#x;&#x192;é?¤é&#x17D;&#x2122;ä&#x152;&#x152;ä&#x2122;źçŹ&#x17E;é˝&#x2026;éą&#x20AC;⢾é&#x201A;?麨ä&#x;?ĺ˛ ćś¸ ë&#x20AC;żćś¸âŻ&#x2039;ç¨&#x2021;ď&#x2DC;šä§Žă&#x20AC;Ťĺ&#x192;˝éş&#x152;揽ç&#x152;°äŞŽäŠ&#x203A;媯⢾ĺ&#x2C6;żć?&#x201A;ç°§ă&#x2013;&#x2019;䞎ă &#x2013;䧎朸ä&#x;?
ĺ˛ ď&#x2DC;šâ˘ľéš&#x17D;é ¤â&#x2122;§âŚ?ĺ&#x161;&#x152;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;é&#x201A;?麨ď&#x2DC;ˇă&#x20AC;łĺ&#x192;˝ä§Žćś¸ć¤&#x161;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;ĺ&#x2030;¤ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏⿜ä&#x2013;&#x17D;é?¤ é&#x17D;&#x2122;ä&#x152;&#x152;ä&#x2122;źçŹ&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šę§Şć?䧎â&#x2122;śĺ&#x2030;&#x161;äâ&#x2122;§âŚ?ď&#x161;łăš?䨊ď&#x161;´ćś¸ç&#x;Śă&#x153;Ąâ˘ľćśŽăž?âśž
ä &#x2018;ď&#x2DC;šä§Žă&#x2039;?姚ć&#x2039;č?&#x2C6;ä&#x160;šâ&#x161;şâš&#x203A;⿥é&#x201A;?麨ä&#x;?ĺ˛ ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žé¸&#x2019;ä&#x152;˘ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;䲿⾚㟊é&#x201C; ę˛&#x2014;éš&#x17D;é ¤ăŁ?ę&#x2020;&#x20AC;朸ç &#x2021;ç&#x2018;&#x2013;ď&#x2DC;šć?ä&#x2013;&#x2022;âą&#x201E;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;é¸?âŚ?ă&#x203A;&#x2021;ç&#x2021;&#x160;â&#x2122;łäŞŞâľ&#x152;č?&#x2C6;ä&#x160;šä Žč&#x17D;&#x2021; 錹朸ë&#x;&#x160;⿥朎ăž?ď&#x2DC;ˇ
miming a song, there isn t much point. I like to move with the audience and so
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;⥚ĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x192;ćş?ä&#x2013;&#x160;äž¸ăśśč° é Żćś¸î&#x161;&#x17D;
a stronger connection and that feedback is vital. I need that process of mutual
é Żä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šă¸?â&#x17E;żé&#x201A;?â&#x153;Ťâ&#x2122;§ç??ć Źâ&#x2122;§ć?&#x201A;â&#x153;łćś¸ä˘&#x20AC;ä?&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;ˇĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;â´˛ăŁ?ăšťă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ă&#x17D;˛é&#x2018;&#x2018;
each performance is diďŹ&#x20AC;erent. Whilst performing with an audience, I can build stimulation, with every new performance I don t know what will happen. I
-44î&#x161;&#x2030;㟊䧎⢾é&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šäž¸ăśśč° é Żĺ&#x2C6;żę˛łâĄ&#x201A;ĺ&#x20AC;´é¸?âŚ?ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żćś¸ćŽšâ&#x17E;żč° äž¸ăśśč° é Żćś¸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏â&#x203A;łé?Şă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ç??ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2013;&#x17D;ę&#x192;?ć&#x152;Ąď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;ęŚ&#x2018;襽
Lu Sisi. Still image of The Age of Digital/Analogue (2013-16)
Lu Sisi at performance
hope that through performing with diďŹ&#x20AC;erent
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That sort of openness is what I hope to see.
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audiences the piece will continue to improve.
ART.ZIP: Some comment that your work is stunning but lacking in artistry, seeming more commercial than artistic, how do you feel about this opinion?
âť&#x2039;äž¸ăśśč° é Żćś¸ĺ&#x161;&#x152;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;ˇĺŤ˛ăĽśé&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šä§Žćś¸âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2019;&#x160;ç&#x201D;¨ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ꨜä&#x2022;§ä&#x2022;§âŤšćś¸ă&#x203A;&#x2021;ç&#x2021;&#x160;â&#x2122;łćś¸ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x161;&#x203A;â&#x161;&#x201A;䧎čź&#x2018;â°&#x2026;ä&#x2013;&#x17D;㢾䞸 ⌏ď&#x2DC;šä§Žę&#x;&#x161;㨼ä§&#x192;ćŻ č?&#x2C6;ä&#x160;šĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x20AC;Ťĺ&#x192;˝ć?&#x20AC;â&#x153;Ťéˇ&#x2020;ĺŽ ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;ç˝&#x153;暹㟊朸ä&#x2122;?ćŽ&#x153;â&#x153;Ťĺ&#x160;Ľé¨â°&#x2030;ăş&#x201A;âŤ&#x201E;麨朸ę&#x2026;žé&#x160;´ä&#x161;?â&#x153;Ťď&#x2DC;ˇ 䧎嚞⿥â&#x153;Ťä&#x2013;&#x17D;㢾â&#x161;&#x203A;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝ęŹ&#x152;ä&#x152;˘ĺ&#x2030;ŞâšĄĺ&#x20AC;´â°&#x2030;ăş&#x201A;朸佪ĺ?&#x201C;ď&#x2DC;šă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;ĺ&#x2030;¤â?&#x2030;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏ă¸?朸佌ä &#x2018;ć&#x152;ĄäŞŽâ°Śăť&#x153;äŹ&#x20AC;⿥â&#x153;Ťâ°&#x2030;ăş&#x201A;
ĺ&#x160;Ľé¨ď&#x2DC;ˇâ˝ç&#x203A;&#x2DC;㼜姽ď&#x2DC;šâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸ć&#x20AC;ľâ´&#x20AC;佪ĺ?&#x201C;韊ĺ&#x192;˝č&#x2026;&#x2039;ä Žă&#x20AC;&#x152;âľ&#x152;ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ă˘ľäž¸ăśśč° é Żćś¸éż&#x2C6;â´&#x2022;ď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žé&#x152;?ä&#x2013;¤äž¸ăśśč° é Żĺ&#x192;˝ ä&#x2013;&#x17D;㼪朸é&#x201A;?ć¤?ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;â°&#x2030;ăş&#x201A;ĺ&#x160;Ľé¨äŠ&#x17E;ĺ&#x192;˝ĺŻšăš ⥲ă&#x2026;ˇăĽŞăĄ?ćś¸ęĄ ę&#x2019;łď&#x2DC;ˇ
LSS: I think that diďŹ&#x20AC;erent opinions are good. I
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ć&#x20AC;ľâ´&#x20AC;朸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏éş&#x201A;â&#x2122;łéş&#x2022;äŞŽé Żă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;ă&#x152;¨î&#x161;&#x17D;⥚ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x192;ćş?ä&#x2013;&#x160;é¸?ĺ&#x17E;şäŞŽé Żä˝ŚęĽťă&#x201E;¤č° é Żä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śćś¸
a bit dazzling for some people, but once they
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can t deny that the results of my work can be hear about my artistic process, or after they see my documentary, I believe they will be
surprised to see the depth of work that goes
into the production. The performance shows hobbies are broad; music, art, performance and ďŹ lm, no matter whether it is classic or modern, I like to try new things out. This
whole project is an experiment and I believe that in the future I will continue to develop
it further. I think my study is still continuing, fortunately I still have a real passion for
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the topic. In the end, I believe that before
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;âżžęş&#x2C6;é&#x201C;&#x17E;⥚朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇä˝Şĺ?&#x201C;ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ę&#x192;?ć&#x152;Ąď&#x2DC;šçˇ&#x201E;ăźąč° é Żä&#x161;?ď&#x2DC;šćş?鼹⢾ĺ&#x2030;¤ë&#x;&#x160;ă&#x2030;&#x201A;ĺ&#x2122; âť&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;ˇâĄšä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x192;
yourself.
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you move other people, you have to move
ćş?ä&#x2013;&#x160;é¸?ç??é?ąâ&#x2020;î&#x161;&#x17D;
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Lu Sisi. Making of Taoda (2015)
only 60% of the whole project. In fact, my
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The Zabludowicz Collection, founded in 1994 by Poju and Anita
Zabludowicz, is dedicated to fostering new audiences and a sustainable environment for contemporary art. The Collection contains over
3,000 works of art by more than 500 artists, spanning four decades
of art production. Regarded as one of the world s most outstanding
ć?&#x20AC;â&#x153;Ťă&#x203A;&#x2020;ꡢĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;朸é&#x152;&#x161;ćť&#x17E;çş&#x2C6;ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ă&#x201E;¤ă&#x20AC;łä°çłľćśŽăž?朸掚â&#x17E;żč° é ŻćŠ&#x2021;ă&#x17E;Żď&#x2DC;ščŽ?ä&#x2039;&#x2019;
㢾çŹ&#x17E;㣟㚝ĺ &#x153;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6; ä&#x17D;&#x192;âśžç&#x201D;¨â&#x153;Ťă &#x161;ă ?Ⰺ询ę¸Ő&#x201A;čŽ?ä&#x2039;&#x2019;㢾çŹ&#x17E;㣟Ⰺ
询ę¸ď&#x2DC;šé&#x201E;&#x201E;é&#x161;&#x2DC;ć?&#x20AC;ď&#x2C6;Łć¤&#x2022;ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ę°Ľăźşćś¸ć Źç&#x201D;¨ćŽšâ&#x17E;żč° é Żĺ Ľĺ&#x153;&#x201C;â&#x203A;&#x201C;â&#x2122;§ď&#x2DC;šé&#x2018;Şę¸çŚş
窥ĺ&#x201D;&#x161;ć¤&#x161;â&#x153;Ťä&#x2013;° â&#x161;&#x2020;ç§ ĺ&#x160;Łč?&#x203A;â&#x17E;&#x203A;ćś¸č° é ŻčŻ˘ă&#x2026;ˇč&#x2026; çŞ&#x201E;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x161;&#x203A;â&#x161;&#x201A;ä°çłľă ˘âľšćśŽ
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independent contemporary art collections, its focus is on emerging
ä&#x160;şâ´Şć?&#x20AC;ę¸čŻ˘ď&#x2DC;ˇ
development. Taking the recent digital art exhibition Emotional Supply
â&#x;&#x192;ăŁ?ă&#x2DC;&#x2014;äž¸ăśśč° é Żăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;Őˇä&#x17E;&#x2022;ä ŽâŁ&#x2DC;估ę&#x2022;&#x2013;Ő¸ć?&#x20AC;çŽ ç¨&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;š"35 ;*1äą°é?&#x17E;â&#x153;Ť
art from the late 20th century to the present day and is still in constant Chains as a starting point, Collection Director Elizabeth Neilson talks about her approach to collecting and her future strategy .
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ä˝?询ĺ&#x20AC;°ä&#x2019;ă&#x201E;¤ĺ&#x160;˘â˘ľćś¸ćśŽăž?ç&#x2DC;źćŽ&#x153;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
combination of ways of working to facilitate art practice. Also, we very rarely
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;é&#x2018;Şę¸ćś¸ä˝?éŁ&#x2018;ç&#x2DC;źćŽ&#x153;ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;î&#x161;&#x17D;
are known for searching out artists and not just going with what is "hot" or
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sell the works we hold - so it s a growing and very much living collection. We shown at art fairs - and that takes time and patience.
ART.ZIP: Do you still remember the very ďŹ rst digital art pieces? What are they and how do you make the decision? How are they special and distinct from the others?
what it does in context but also autonomously.
ART.ZIP: Are there any issues or challenges when collecting and exhibiting digital art works? EN: Conservation is still in development - we keep ďŹ les in diďŹ&#x20AC;erent places and Zabludowicz Collection, London
formats - in case of ďŹ re or theft but also corruption and obsolescence.
People often think that presenting new media work - including moving image
work - that is cheap or easy - it can be... But the hardware can also be expensive and changes so quickly. And spatially the works can be demanding - often an environment will need to be specially created. I don't think we have done one
ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;询ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸ćŽšâ&#x17E;żč° é Żä˝?čŻ˘ĺ Ľĺ&#x153;&#x201C;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x161;şé&#x160;´â&#x;&#x192; ä&#x17D;&#x192;â&#x203A;&#x201C;ä&#x2013;&#x2022;朸掚â&#x17E;ż
and a programme of exhibitions, residencies, commissions and publicly facing projects working with living artists. It was founded in the mid 1990s by the
Zabludowicz family - from the start they were not just buying art works but also supporting other art organisations.
ART.ZIP: How do you position the Zabludowicz Collection?
EN: It's a non market orientated family collection with a philanthropic aim to
nurture and support art and the surrounding culture that makes that possible.
ART.ZIP: What is the Collection s strategy on acquisition?
EN: We are not just buying works but also commissioning and exhibiting so it's
&/î&#x161;&#x2030;é¸?âŚ?Ⰺ询ę¸ĺ&#x2030;¤â°?âŚ?č&#x20AC;ˇč&#x2026;&#x2039;î&#x161;&#x2030;â°Śâ&#x2122;§ď&#x2DC;šă¸?ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§âŚ?â&#x2122;śĺ&#x20AC;Źă&#x;&#x17E;â¸&#x2C6; č° é ŻâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇć?&#x20AC;â&#x161;şď&#x2DC;šę§Şć?ĺ&#x2030;¤â?&#x2030;询ă&#x2026;ˇă&#x20AC;łâ&#x;&#x192;éˇ&#x2020;彸âľ&#x152; ä&#x17D;&#x192;â&#x17E;żî&#x161;&#x160;â°Ś â&#x153;łď&#x2DC;šă¸?ĺ&#x2030;¤č?&#x2C6;ä&#x160;šćś¸č° é Żę°ŞćšĄď&#x2DC;šâŤšăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;śč° é Żăšťę˝?ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;śč° é Żă¨˝
ART.ZIP: What's the diďŹ&#x20AC;erence between collecting other art forms and digital art? Is there a diďŹ&#x20AC;erence in preservation, ensuring that you have the correct technology to show to work on, even when the technology becomes out of date? EN: I think I answered that above. It's a little more demanding than painting.
ă&#x2022;źăĄ?朸ă&#x192;°éźšäż&#x2019;âť&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šé¸?â?&#x2030;⥲ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸ä˝?询ĺ&#x201A;?ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;䧎â¸&#x2C6;â°&#x2026;é¸?âŚ?갪暥â&#x203A;&#x201C;âľšď&#x2DC;ˇä¨žâ&#x;&#x192;ď&#x2DC;šäž¸ 㜜㯯ë&#x201E;&#x201C;çą?ĺ&#x192;˝ä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;갪暥朸â&#x2122;§éż&#x2C6;â´&#x2022;ď&#x2DC;ˇă¸?ă&#x201E;¤â°Śâ&#x17E;Žćś¸čŻ˘ă&#x2026;ˇĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;ś ă &#x161;Ő&#x201A;鿪ꨞé&#x160;´ć&#x161;śâ´˝ćś¸ęĄ 岤ă&#x201E;¤âĽ&#x192;㜸ď&#x2DC;ˇä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;é&#x160;´éŁ&#x2018;éĄ ă&#x2020;â?&#x2030;⥲ă&#x2026;ˇ
ă&#x20AC;&#x160;寚ĺ&#x20AC;´âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇă&#x2013;&#x2C6;齥ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;朸é&#x201C;&#x192;ă&#x17E;Żâ&#x2122;´ćś¸ä &#x2018;çş?â&#x;&#x192;⿝⥲ă&#x2026;ˇĺ&#x160;Ľé¨ćś¸č?&#x2C6;ĺą&#x203A; ä&#x161;?ď&#x2DC;ˇ
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ä˝?询ă&#x201E;¤ăž?â´&#x20AC;äž¸ăśśč° é ŻâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏ĺ&#x2030;¤ĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤éş&#x201A; âľ&#x152;éş&#x2022;ă&#x2020;â?&#x2030;ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;䧴äŽ&#x2039;ä¨&#x17E;î&#x161;&#x17D;
&/î&#x161;&#x2030;âĽ&#x192;ăś¸äŞŽé ŻéźŠă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x20AC;ŹćśŽăž?ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;䪞äż&#x2019;â&#x;?揽â&#x2122;śă &#x161;朸ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;ä&#x2019; âĽ&#x192;㜸ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;â&#x2122;śă &#x161;朸ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ĺ&#x20AC;°ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x;&#x192;ęŁ&#x2C6;ć&#x160;Ąć&#x2039;&#x2026;ď&#x2DC;śâŠ&#x201D;ćš ď&#x2DC;śä´ŚăĄ?ă&#x201E;¤ăŁ&#x;佪ď&#x2DC;ˇ
â&#x2122;śéĄĽę??䧴ç˝?ç&#x;Śă&#x2039;˛ćś¸â&#x153;˛ä&#x17E;&#x2022;ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x153;˛ăť&#x153;ĺ&#x2030;¤ă&#x20AC;łč&#x2026;&#x2039;ĺ&#x192;˝é¸?ĺ&#x17E;şď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;ç&#x201A;˝â&#x;?â&#x203A;ł ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸ăž?â´&#x20AC;â&#x203A;łĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ę¨&#x2C6;朸ď&#x2DC;šă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;é¸&#x2019;ä&#x152;˘ä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;é&#x160;´âśžé¸¤â&#x2122;§âŚ?ć&#x161;śĺŠ&#x152;朸 ăž?â´&#x20AC;ćŠ&#x2021;ă&#x17E;Żď&#x2DC;ˇä§Žâ&#x2122;śé&#x2019;˘ć?&#x20AC;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x2030;¤ă&#x2020;â&#x2122;§ĺŚ&#x201E;ä&#x2039;&#x2019;ăž?朸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏ĺ&#x2030;¤ć¤?ä§ćś¸ é?¤âŞ&#x201D;ă&#x20AC;łâ&#x;&#x192;揽Ő&#x201A;䧎âŚ&#x203A;çą?ĺ&#x192;˝é&#x160;´éĄ ĺ&#x2C6;żă˘ľćś¸î&#x2122;°é¸?ă˝ ĺ&#x192;˝âŚ?äŽ&#x2039;ä¨&#x17E;â&#x153;Ťî&#x2122;°
䧴é?Şč° é ŻçŠ&#x2030;çą˝â&#x203A;&#x201C;ę&#x;Śę¨žé&#x160;´ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x2122;§ç??âźżé&#x201D;&#x2026;â°&#x;â?§é¸?â?&#x2030;獤ë&#x20AC;żă&#x201E;¤éĄťĺ˝&#x201A; 朸ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ˛ ď&#x2DC;ˇ
Hence it doesn't have the same hype or market around it. That gives a certain
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ä˝?čŻ˘äž¸ăśśč° é ŻâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇă&#x201E;¤â°Śâ&#x17E;Žä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇĺ&#x2030;¤âĄŚâ&#x2122;ś
used in the 60s and 70s as a way of staying outside of the art market.
éť ćś¸äŞŽé ŻäŠ&#x203A;媯⢪ăž?â´&#x20AC;ä§â¸&#x2020;ď&#x2DC;šă˝ ç&#x161;żé¸?â?&#x2030;äŞŽé Żä&#x160;şçŤ¤éş&#x2022;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x153;Ťî&#x161;&#x17D;
freedom and for some is a reason to use it in the same way performance was
(brought up using digital devices and media rather than my generation that
朸朸ď&#x2DC;šć?&#x20AC;â&#x153;Ťă&#x203A;&#x2020;č&#x201A;Źă&#x201E;¤ä˝&#x2026;ä°ć¤?掚â&#x17E;żč° é Żď&#x2DC;šâżťć?&#x20AC;ć¤?掚â&#x17E;żč° é Żä˛żâŁ&#x2DC;
ę?&#x2014;⍚猺窥ď&#x2DC;ść&#x2026;¨âŻ&#x2022;âŻ&#x2022;ćš?䧴ç˝?â°Śâ&#x17E;Žä&#x160;şçŤ¤éş&#x2022;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;朸ĺ&#x2018;&#x201D;ä&#x2019;ę?&#x2014;âľ&#x2013;朸⥲
ĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2013;&#x17D;éĄ&#x153;朸ď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;â&#x161;&#x201A;ĺ&#x2C6;żĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;äł&#x2013;â&#x17E;żâ&#x203A;łä&#x2013;&#x17D;ä&#x2DC;°ď&#x2DC;ˇä&#x2013;°ç&#x2018; ę&#x;Śâ&#x2122;łâ˘ľé&#x201C;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;šäž¸ăśśâĄ˛
é Żă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šă &#x161;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x203A;łâ&#x2122;§ćšŹä˝&#x2026;ä°â°Śâ&#x17E;Žč° é Żĺ Ľĺ&#x153;&#x201C;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
&/î&#x161;&#x2030;ă¸?ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§âŚ?ęŹ&#x152;ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľâť&#x2039;朸㚝ä?ä˝?询ę¸ď&#x2DC;šă¸?ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x;&#x192;䥚ă&#x160;Ľć?&#x20AC;暥
㜜㯯ë&#x201E;&#x201C;鿪韊č´&#x2013; ĺ&#x20AC;´ä&#x17D;&#x201C;ä&#x17D;&#x192;ĺ&#x160;?Ő&#x201A;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x2030;¤é˝ĄâŚ?ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ĺ&#x160;?齥â?&#x2030;⢪ 揽
sharing these experience resources amongst art organisations.
ART.ZIP: What do you see as the future of digital art?
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;⥚ĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;ăš âĄ&#x2122;čŽ?ä&#x2039;&#x2019;㢾çŹ&#x17E;㣟Ⰺ询ę¸ćś¸î&#x161;&#x17D;
&/î&#x161;&#x2030; ä&#x17D;&#x192;â&#x17E;żä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸갪暥âś?ę&#x;&#x161;㨼朸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏ď&#x2DC;šä¨žĺ&#x2030;¤ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;朸䞸
â&#x17E;&#x192;âŚ&#x203A;çą?ĺ&#x192;˝ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;é&#x2019;˘ć?&#x20AC;ăž?â´&#x20AC;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;㯯ë&#x201E;&#x201C;⥲ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šâşŤä?ä&#x2022;§âŤšâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šĺ&#x192;˝â&#x;?
é&#x17D;ˇă&#x201E;¤č&#x17D;&#x2026;â°&#x2014;ćť&#x17E;â&#x2122;§éĽąâżŽč&#x17D;&#x2026;朸갪暥ç&#x2DC;&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;ˇă¸?ĺ&#x192;˝ć&#x2039;čŽ?ä&#x2039;&#x2019;㢾çŹ&#x17E;㣟㚝ĺ &#x153;
ĺ&#x20AC;´ ä&#x17D;&#x192;â&#x17E;żâ&#x161;Ľĺ&#x160;?é?¤ç&#x201D;¨ćś¸Ő&#x201A;â&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;ä&#x2013;°â&#x2122;§ę&#x;&#x161;㨼㽠â&#x2122;śâŤŚä˝?éŁ&#x2018;č°
⥚âŚ&#x203A;ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;寚㚠ä˝?询é¸?ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸î&#x161;&#x17D;ă&#x201E;¤â´˝ćś¸âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇćšąĺŤ˛ď&#x2DC;šé¸?
show where we have had the right equipment in stock - we have always had
to buy more! That's a challenge! There needs to be a better coordinated way of
concentrating on art since 1990 but going back to the 1940s in a few instances,
ă&#x153;Ľâ&#x2122;łĺ&#x2C6;&#x2022;âŻ&#x2022;楧ë&#x201E;&#x17E;朸ĺ&#x152;&#x152;é&#x160;ŻŐ&#x201A;é¸?âŚ?éş&#x2022;ç&#x17D;&#x2018;ꨞé&#x160;´ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;ę&#x;Śă&#x201E;¤ç˝Łä&#x2014;ąď&#x2DC;ˇ
â?&#x2030;⥲ă&#x2026;ˇĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;ć&#x161;śĺŠ&#x152;朸ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ĺ&#x20AC;°î&#x161;&#x17D;
and conservation. Decisions on what is purchased are based on the work itself -
EN: The collection is two things - a growing collection of contemporary art,
ă&#x160;Ľĺ&#x20AC;´ăźŚäŞŞč° é Żăšťď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝éˇ&#x2020;ęŚ&#x2018;齥â?&#x2030;ď&#x161;łăŁ?ć&#x201D;¨ď&#x161;´ä§´ç˝?č° é Żä&#x2039;&#x2018;
obsolete formats from this period and these predate my work with the
distinct from the rest of the collection - everything requires special attention
ĺ&#x192;˝ä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;ä&#x2019;&#x160;ç&#x201D;¨ćś¸î&#x161;&#x17D;
ĺ&#x20AC;ŹćŹ°ę&#x;&#x20AC;朸ä˝?询갪暥ď&#x2DC;ˇä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ć?&#x20AC;â&#x17E;&#x192;䨞濟朸➲ă&#x201D;&#x201D;â&#x203A;&#x201C;â&#x2122;§ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ĺ&#x20AC;´ä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ä?ĄéźŠé&#x17D;šä&#x2013;¤âĄšâŚ&#x203A;ꝡ䪥ä˝?čŻ˘ćś¸äž¸ăśśč° é ŻâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇă&#x152;¨î&#x161;&#x17D;
collection. So digital media has always been part of the collection. It's not
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;é&#x201D;&#x17E;ä?Ąç&#x;Śé&#x160;´ă&#x2013;&#x2019;â&#x17E;?稲â&#x2122;§â&#x2122;´čŽ?ä&#x2039;&#x2019;㢾çŹ&#x17E;㣟Ⰺ询ę¸î&#x161;&#x17D;ă¸?
ç˝&#x153;â&#x161;&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;šä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ăźąâ´&#x20AC;ă&#x2C6;&#x2019;询ă&#x2026;ˇŐ&#x201A;䨞â&#x;&#x192;ă¸?ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§âŚ?ä§ę&#x;&#x20AC;â&#x161;Ľćś¸ď&#x2DC;śâ&#x2122;ś
EN: In the 1990s when the collection begun digital media of all forms was in its infancy - we have works by artists that are on VHS or laser discs or other
ART.ZIP: Would you please give us a brief introduction of Zabludowicz Collection? How was it established?
&/î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎âŚ&#x203A;â&#x2122;śâŤŚâŤŚĺ&#x192;˝ä˝?éŁ&#x2018;⥲ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šéźŠä&#x2013;°â&#x153;˛ă¨˝äŠŻă&#x201E;¤ăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šä¨žâ&#x;&#x192;
EN: I think that there is so much potential and for those that are digital natives adapted to them in their teens) it's going to be more unusual to think of art in a massive white gallery space than it is on a screen or server. As with industry or photography in the nineteenth century technology will heavily inďŹ&#x201A;uence the development of art.
ă &#x161;î&#x161;&#x17D;ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;âĽ&#x192;ăś¸äŞŽé Żâ&#x2122;łĺ&#x2030;¤âźŚâ´˝ď&#x2DC;šă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;çą?ĺ&#x192;˝é&#x160;´ç&#x201E;ˇâĽ&#x192;ĺ&#x2030;¤ă &#x2013; &/î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎ä&#x;?䧎ä&#x160;şçŤ¤ă&#x201D;?ç&#x2DC;¸éş&#x2022;é¸?âŚ?ă&#x2030;?ę˛&#x2014;â&#x153;Ťď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?卲ä˝?询ç˛ćŽĽĺ&#x2C6;żĺ&#x2030;¤
ę¨&#x2C6;ä?&#x17E;ď&#x2DC;ˇă&#x201D;&#x201D;姽é¸?âŚ?ęą&#x2020;ă&#x161;&#x2013;ĺ°?ĺ&#x2030;¤ă&#x201E;¤ç˛ćŽĽâ&#x2122;§ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸ć&#x2039;°âĄ˛ä§´ä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľď&#x2DC;ˇâĄ&#x17D; é¸?â&#x203A;łçŞ?äž¸ăśśč° é Żăšťä&#x152;&#x;⢾â&#x153;Ťâ&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;č?&#x2C6;ć&#x2039;ď&#x2DC;šăźŠâ&#x2122;§â?&#x2030;č° é Żăšťç˝&#x153;é&#x17D;&#x160;ď&#x2DC;š é¸?â¤&#x2018;⍚ĺ&#x192;˝ ď&#x2DC;ś ä&#x17D;&#x192;â&#x17E;żé ¤ć?&#x20AC;č° é Żâ&#x2122;§ĺ&#x17E;şď&#x2DC;šäŞžé¸?掚⥲ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x2122;§ç??éş&#x2030; ę¨&#x2020;ĺ&#x20AC;´č° é Żä&#x2039;&#x2018;ă&#x153;Ľâ&#x203A;&#x201C;㢍朸ç&#x201D;¨ă&#x153;Ľď&#x2DC;ˇ
EN: We often joke about looking for "genius" - a short hand for something unnamable but important - we seek out
Daniel Keller, Onanet Spiruline 1, 2015 (detail). Photo: David Bebber
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;ä?Ąä&#x2122;Śë&#x17E;&#x2020;ćş?äž¸ăśśč° é Żćś¸âľšĺ&#x2026;&#x17E;î&#x161;&#x17D;
The decision to pilot our residency in Las Vegas with artists that we planned
䧎âŚ&#x203A;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;äŹ&#x2DC;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;çŹ&#x17E;â¸&#x2C6;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;朸ę˝?ă&#x2013;&#x2019;갪暥é&#x160;´éź?é&#x201D;&#x17E;â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;ĺ&#x17E;şćś¸č° é Żăšťă&#x201E;¤
ăśśé?¤âŞ&#x201D;ă&#x201E;¤ăŻŻë&#x201E;&#x201C;朸ćŠ&#x2021;ă&#x17E;Żâ&#x161;Ľę&#x;&#x20AC;ăŁ?朸â&#x2122;§â&#x17E;żď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;â&#x2122;śĺ&#x192;˝âŤšä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;é¸?â?&#x2030;âľ&#x152;â&#x153;Ťâź§â˘ľĺ¨&#x201D;äŠ&#x17E;⿥éť
those artists. The possibility for them to make new work in Las Vegas wasn't so
â?&#x2030;č° é Żăšťă&#x2013;&#x2C6;äŹ&#x2DC;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;çŹ&#x17E;â¸&#x2C6;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x203A;朸갪暥â&#x2122;łâ¨&#x17E;â´&#x20AC;â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;ĺ&#x20AC;&#x17E;ë&#x160;Ťćś¸ä§ĺ?&#x201C;ď&#x2DC;š
&/î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎é&#x2019;˘ć?&#x20AC;é¸?âŚ?ęą&#x2020;ă&#x161;&#x2013;ĺ&#x2030;¤čĄ˝ď&#x160;ľăŁ?朸ć&#x201A;´â¸&#x201A;ď&#x2DC;šăźŠĺ&#x20AC;´é˝Ąâ?&#x2030;ď&#x161;łäž¸ăśśâž˛âĄ&#x17E;ĺ&#x2014;ď&#x161;´ î&#x2122;ˇă&#x2013;&#x2C6;⢪揽䞸
估䞸㜜é?¤âŞ&#x201D;ă&#x201E;¤ăŻŻë&#x201E;&#x201C;朸â&#x17E;&#x192;î&#x2122;¸ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;ä&#x2014;ąćšĄâ&#x161;Ľćś¸č° é Żĺ&#x2C6;żă˘ľćś¸ĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ăž&#x201C;ä?&#x152;â&#x2122;łä§´ĺ&#x2030;ŞâšĄă?ź
é&#x2026;朸ĺ&#x152;&#x152;é&#x160;Żď&#x2DC;šç˝&#x153;â&#x2122;śăŁ?ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;ăŁ?ă&#x2DC;&#x2014;术č&#x2019;&#x20AC;掼ä?¤é&#x2026;朸ĺ&#x152;&#x152;é&#x160;Żď&#x2DC;ˇă˝ ⍚ â&#x161;&#x2020;ç§ ä&#x160;¨ĺ&#x2122; ď&#x2DC;śäź˘ä&#x2022;§ăźŠ č° é Żćś¸ä&#x2022;§ę° â&#x2122;§ĺ&#x17E;şď&#x2DC;šäŞŽé Żĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ăŁ?ăŁ?ă&#x2013;&#x2019;ä&#x2022;§ę° č° é Żćś¸ćśŽăž?ď&#x2DC;ˇ
works which speak to our time and to each other across
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;äŐˇä&#x17E;&#x2022;ä ŽâŁ&#x2DC;估ę&#x2022;&#x2013;Ő¸ăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;ć?&#x20AC;⢿ď&#x2DC;šä?Ąă&#x2013;&#x2C6;éź&#x2021;äšľč° é Żăšťä§´âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇćś¸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏䨞
what it is to live today, but also somehow transcends that!
&/î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎âŚ&#x203A;獤ä&#x152;˘äď&#x161;łăŁ&#x201D;äŠ&#x17E;ď&#x161;´â˘ľę&#x;&#x161;ć˘&#x2013;ç&#x2013;ŽŐ&#x201A;䨞é&#x2013;&#x2014;ď&#x161;łăŁ&#x201D;äŠ&#x17E;ď&#x161;´ ď&#x2DC;šă˝ ĺ&#x192;˝é˝Ąâ?&#x2030;ĺ°?ĺ˛ é&#x201C;&#x17E;ĺ&#x192;&#x2C6;术âĄ&#x17D;
time. We are hoping to make a collection that embodies
From the works on show in Emotional Supply Chains I
think you can see a multitude of approaches to art making - from autobiographical and narrative, to more materially
ęĄ ĺ˛¤ćś¸ĺ&#x2030;&#x201C;ę&#x2026;žé&#x160;´âŻ&#x2039;ç¨&#x2021;ĺ&#x192;˝â&#x17E;&#x160;ë&#x17E;&#x2020;î&#x161;&#x17D;éź&#x2021;äšľę˝?ă&#x2013;&#x2019;č° é Żăšťćś¸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;⌏⿜ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;ęĄ ĺ˛¤ă&#x2020;â?&#x2030;ĺ&#x152;&#x152;é&#x160;Żă&#x192;¤î&#x161;&#x17D;
⽿ä&#x2013;&#x17D;ę&#x2026;žé&#x160;´ćś¸â&#x17E;&#x192;Ő&#x201A;䧎âŚ&#x203A;é&#x160;´äŞŞćś¸âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇä&#x2014;łę°ĺ&#x192;˝é˝Ąâ?&#x2030;č&#x17D;&#x2026;䧎âŚ&#x203A;朸ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żâź&#x2018;ę&#x201A;&#x201A;朸ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x;&#x192;âżť é¨&#x2014;éŚ&#x160;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;â&#x17E;żâ&#x153;˝ćšąă&#x201E;&#x17D;估朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;ˇä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ä&#x2039;&#x17E;ĺ&#x160;&#x2020;䧎âŚ&#x203A;朸询ă&#x2026;ˇč&#x2026;&#x2039;㣠ë&#x201E;&#x201C;ć¤?掚â&#x2122;´â¸˝â¸˝ćŹ°ĺ Ľď&#x2DC;š âĄ&#x17D;âżśč&#x2026;&#x2039;éŚ&#x201E;éŚ&#x160;ć¤?ă&#x2013;&#x2C6;朸ĺ&#x152;&#x152;é&#x160;Żď&#x2DC;ˇ
focussed. All have a conceptual rigour that is tempered
ä&#x2013;°Őˇä&#x17E;&#x2022;ä ŽâŁ&#x2DC;估ę&#x2022;&#x2013;Ő¸ăž?é&#x152;&#x2019;â&#x2122;łćś¸âĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šä§Žä&#x;?⥚č&#x2026;&#x2039;ćş?â´&#x20AC;â˘ľč° é ŻâśžâĄ˛ćś¸ă˘ľç??ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ˛ ď&#x2DC;šä&#x2013;°
viewers.
ĺ&#x192;˝ă&#x201D;&#x201D;ć?&#x20AC;ĺ&#x2030;¤â&#x153;Ťĺ&#x2C6;żé&#x2039;ˇéľ&#x153;朸ď&#x161;łäąşâ°&#x2026;ď&#x161;´ĺ&#x20AC;°ä&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ˛ă&#x2026;ˇă˝ ĺ&#x2C6;żăş&#x201A;ĺ&#x192;&#x2019;é&#x201E;&#x201E;é&#x152;&#x161;ćş?ç˝?äąşă&#x20AC;&#x152;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
with approachable and accessible ways in to the work for
č?&#x2C6;âŤ&#x201E;ä&#x2019;朸ď&#x2DC;śäž&#x192;â&#x153;˛ä&#x2019;朸ď&#x2DC;šâľ&#x152;ĺ&#x2C6;żâŠ&#x17D;ę&#x2026;žĺ&#x20AC;´ć&#x161;&#x;颜朸ď&#x2DC;ˇé¸?â?&#x2030;ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ˛ 鿪ĺ&#x2030;¤ĺ&#x161;&#x152;ä&#x2122;&#x201A;â&#x2122;łćś¸ă&#x201C;&#x201A;č&#x2022;&#x2122;ď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;
to include in this exhibition related to the concepts and working methods of
much the aim rather we wanted to foster a slower and more engaged way of
working with those artists and gain a deeper understanding of their practices.
é¸?â?&#x2030;č° é Żăšťćś¸ä&#x;?ĺ˛ ă&#x201E;¤ä&#x160;¨âĄ˛ĺ&#x20AC;°ĺ˛ ĺ&#x2030;¤ęĄ ď&#x2DC;ˇč&#x17D;&#x2026;â°Śé&#x201C;&#x17E;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ăş&#x2022;ĺ&#x160;&#x2020;é¸?
âŚ?â&#x2122;śăĽśé&#x201C;&#x17E;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x2C6;żä&#x2039;&#x17E;ĺ&#x160;&#x2020;âśžé?¤â&#x2122;§ç??č&#x17D;&#x2026;é¸?â?&#x2030;č° é Żăšťâ°&#x;â&#x153;˛ćś¸ä˘Šç&#x153;? ă¤&#x2030;ď&#x2DC;śâżŽč&#x17D;&#x2026;ä?&#x17E;ĺ&#x2C6;żë&#x201E;&#x17E;朸ä&#x160;¨âĄ˛ĺ&#x20AC;°ä&#x2019;ď&#x2DC;šâ˘Şä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;㟊â&#x17E;ŽâŚ&#x203A;朸✞⥲ăť&#x153;éŠ? ĺ&#x2030;¤ĺ&#x2C6;żĺš&#x20AC;â°&#x2026;朸â&#x153;Ťé?&#x2018;ď&#x2DC;ˇ
ART.ZIP: Are there any more upcoming projects/programmes related to digital art?
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;äąşâ&#x2122;´â˘ľéźŠĺ&#x2030;¤ă&#x201E;¤äž¸ăśśč° é ŻćšąęĄ ćś¸ę°ŞćšĄä§´ç˝?é&#x17D;&#x2122;âˇ&#x201D;
exclusive focus - we have an upcoming project looking at the rise and eďŹ&#x20AC;ect of
ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;âŤŚâŤŚęĄ ĺ˛¤é¸?âŚ?ď&#x2DC;ˇä§ŽâŚ&#x203A;ă&#x2013;&#x2C6; ä&#x17D;&#x192;ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;č&#x17D;&#x160;éłľâ&#x2122;§âŚ?ęĄ ĺ&#x20AC;´ä&#x2022;§âŤšâľ&#x2013;
EN: We continue to research and acquire digitally based works but it's not an
the digital on image making that will take place in 2017, as well as continuing to collect the works that are produced via the Daata Editions platform.
ă&#x152;¨î&#x161;&#x17D;
&/î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ĺ&#x2030;&#x161;çł&#x2019;çłľç &#x2021;ç&#x2018;&#x2013;ď&#x2DC;ść ˝ă&#x20AC;&#x160;䞸㜜ä&#x2022;&#x17D;ä&#x2019;朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;šâĄ&#x17D;䧎âŚ&#x203A;â&#x2122;ś
⥲â&#x161;Ľäž¸ăśśäŞŽé Żćś¸ę&#x2026;ˇćŹ˝ă&#x201E;¤ä&#x2022;§ę° 朸갪暥ď&#x2DC;šă &#x161;ĺ&#x201E;&#x2DC;䧎âŚ&#x203A;â&#x203A;łĺ&#x2030;&#x161;çł&#x2019;çłľ ä˝?ę§&#x152;é¸&#x2019;éş&#x2022;ď&#x161;łäž¸äş&#x2122;ć&#x2122;?ĺ&#x160;Ľď&#x161;´ä&#x17D;&#x201A;ă&#x20AC;ľâľ&#x2013;⥲朸⥲ă&#x2026;ˇď&#x2DC;ˇ
Ed Fornieles, Dorm Daze, 2011-16 (detail). Photo: David Bebber
ART.ZIP: Taking Emotional Supply Chains as an example, what s the most important quality you would pay attention to when selecting artists or works? What about choosing artists for residency programmes?
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The condition of being modern, of our living through modernity has
been effectively harnessed by new technologies that predict precisely our thoughts as a set of rudimentary likes and dislikes, so that industry can
more easily package all of our sensations back to us. As a consequence of such invasive innovation, we are able to be less active and more efficient in our unconscious search for the simple pleasures. The major industries
have modernized and culture and creative aesthetics have come to bear a more sophisticated fruit. Animation, video, sound performance, light
installations, and digital displays have become the major background for
modern life. It allows non-physical forms, or virtual artworks, to effectively enter into the physical domain by communicating remotely by new
devices. Art has replaced corporeal materials, (paints, wood, steel, plastics and the readymade), with the apparatus of a mechanical age, in order to better serve artificial endeavour.
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Casey Reas,100% Gray Coverage,(2013)on iPad
SEDITION: PATRONISING THE PRODUCT INTERVIEW WITH RORY BLAIN 4&%*5*0/ 谀遮䋑㜥涸倝毐歲 㼠鏞繏ꅽv䋒蟚䛸
Sedition is essentially a virtual platform for international artists creating
visual art as audiovisual artifacts. Short animations, video and digital displays
encompass a new element of the artist s practice, and are available as animated editions for one s laptop, smartphone, and iPad. Allowing an interactive
audience the ability to acquire limited edition works by leading artists for the
cost of one s lunch, and the opportunity to create a digital collection as easily as messaging friends.
Where once art was distinguishable from music, and architecture was an industry entirely separate from design, now aesthetics, virtual and visual,
are an amalgamation of ideas and industries that ceaselessly cross over one
another. The machinery of the modern has only positively complicated matters further, by equipping aesthetics with the facility for new possibilities that
are as responsive to the audience as they are to the artist. A sophisticated
art engine that exists entirely in the virtual realm, Sedition is part of such an
inclusive platform for video and animation. Sedition have introduced new art
to a populous that indulge in the immediacy of new technologies; so that they
can adorn our smart devices with an aesthetic skin. By positively mimicking the to audiences required them borrowing from the existing appeal for physical
Cheng Ran, Joss, 2013
artworks, in order to operate dematerialised art as virtually viable. Moving
forward in Sedition s hands, art as an animated form has become an attractive, aďŹ&#x20AC;ordable product that is likely to become as integral to our lives through our
smart devices, as our relationship to the art object in the public realm. Allowing for the virtual to become visual, Sedition sees new technology oďŹ&#x20AC;ering
aesthetics a greater elasticity and mechanised emotional charge, which takes
us all into the new age as agents of art; individually able to cultivate and curate our own cultures.
"35 ;*1î&#x161;&#x2030;䧎âŚ&#x203A;ä&#x;?é&#x201D;&#x17E;ä?Ąâ˘ľé&#x201D;&#x201C;é&#x201D;&#x201C;4FEJUJPO朸é&#x2019;˛ćŹ°ď&#x2DC;šâ&#x;&#x192;âżťä?Ą
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