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HOOK Sine FM’s Rob Allen interviews Joy Division’s Peter Hook We radio bods are lucky. Every now and then
I’ve just finished my New Order book, actually.
I read your Hacienda book and it’s superb. It
we get offered an interview with an artist
It’s 1,200 pages long and it’s all 27 years until
feels like it all fell apart due to other people’s
alongside a tour or new album. Sometimes
we split up properly in 2007. Then there is an
antics and not yours.
you get one of your heroes. Last year I
addendum about all the child-like arguing
interviewed Hugh Cornwell of The Stranglers
afterwards. It’s going to be called Substance,
Well, the thing is we were very naive and not
and you can hear the nerves in my voice.
simply because it’s so substantial.
business-minded, so we got taken advantage
This year I’ve already bagged another, Peter
So I’m looking forward to that. It comes out
it, everyone loves a good knees up, don’t
Hook. I’m a massive electro synth fan and love
in October and it will be my third book. My
they? We had a fantastic knees up for about
New Order and of course Joy Division. Peter is
Hacienda book was first, then Inside Joy
12 years, so you can’t really knock it. I never
passionate about his music and believes in
Division [Unknown Pleasures] and then Inside
bought a drink. It used to drive Rob Gretton
giving the best to people.
New Order [Power, Corruption & Lies], and
crazy, cos he used to pay for all his for some
then I’m going to do another one called
unknown reason. It was a good, cheap night
Inside Prison.
out that ended up costing me millions.
Inside Prison? What would be your crime of
We have all woken up the next morning,
choice then?
looked in our wallets and thought, ‘Jeez, that’s
of. It was a great lesson in life and, let’s face
Has it been 40 years, or should I say nearly 40 years, since the music business started for you?
cost me 60 quid, that night out’. Well, with
It will be 40 years on 6th June 2016. I can
being from Yorkshire especially.
hardly believe it myself. I walked out of the Sex
That would be bad jokes and shoplifting.
Pistols concert on that day and decided I was
Times can be hard for struggling musicians,
going to be a musician - me and Barney, the
I know. You know what it’s like up here? I’ve
I know what you mean, mate. In 1997, I looked
pair of us - and yeah, we have managed to get
got to keep up with Richard Madeley. Do you
in my wallet and thought, ‘Jeez, that’s cost me
away with it for 40 years.
really want to? You would have to be with Judy
3 million!’
Finnegan then. Well, I’ve never been in that situation
That’s brilliant. If you could sum it up in a word or a phrase or a couple of sentences,
When she was at Tony Wilson’s funeral I was
what would it be?
sat next to her. I couldn’t help but notice what beautiful feet she had. A lovely lady.
40
- not yet. Well, I hope you will be very soon. Now that
F***ing Marvellous! It’s been a rollercoaster,
Terry Wogan is gone they are looking for new
hasn’t it, really? Very up and down.
radio talent.