Declassified per Executive Order 13526, Section 3.3 NND Project Number: NND 63316. By: NWD Date: 2011
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"Nm'! I shall talk to you about neqotiatioC'ls cmd solutions. We have been fighting for our independence for four thousand years. ~'Je have defeated the £.10ngo1s three times;. The United States j\rlllYI strong as it iS I is not as terrifying as Genghis ~an. ~':e fight to have peace at home; we have no wider aims. We have made clear our position in our four points and in the interview of January 28 1 1967. LPham Van-Dong did not explain what this intervie\" was; AUDrac and {·lcrcovich did not knm·,.1 nor do I~ l'le are ready t o-talk at any tise provided that actions against the N6~th are uncc~ditionally ended. I want to repeat ~fuat I said yesterday: we are vli11ing to settle for a de facto stoppage." Earcovich interrupted to ask \·inether: he correctly unders tood that no publ ic ac:-(nm'iledgment of an end of bo:<0ing \</2S needed. Pham Van Dong repli ed that he \·.'ould prefer a public statement~ b~t wou ld settle for a de facto c~ssation. L.There Idas disagre ell'.Gnt betviee n Aubrac and !':2rcovich about the me::min'9' of de facto cessation. .?.'LlDrac tnougL!t that a bo:-n.oing p2use could be follo·...'2d "',-itnin a fe':: d=::.ys by an invitation to nesotiate; ~'I:::':::-C0Vich , '.... .:3.S of tne vie:;l that Hanoi_might ',',-ant 2. :nore form21--thougn secret-assuran c8~
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Pna:n Van Dor:g res l.lr;:-: '~d. "End in·; tf'le 'liar fo r us has bv'.) m,e anings: 1) An end of bo;:t·bir:g \·:":!ic!'l is permanent and unconditional; 2) A ~ithdraw31 of United . States forces. \';e like the fO::-:-lcula of :?resident de Gaulle." Marcovich interrupted to say that it ~as not realistic. Pham Van Dong agreed and said that he realized that S022 U.S. troops would have to stay until the end of the . process of political settleoent. He added: "\{e do not · want to humiliate the U.s. Lenin did not like war but fought vihen necessary. As Ler'lin we are COITtmunists. II let me speak of U. s. policy end "the ~~F. ~l;e should have had unification in 1956. Tne period 1956-59 was a political fight. It sa\" the Qutual assistance pact between the U.S. and Saigon and the introduction of u.S. staffs. ~nis led to the formation of the ~LF. The second period l 1960-64: sa\" a disint.egration of the u.s. po~ition to ~~ich the U.S. respond ed by 's2ecial' war. LI suppose he meant "special forces ;·,ar~ In 1965 z ' the United States started a 'limited ' \·:ar which lasts until today: At the same time the tiliF has expanded its activities fro:n the cou"t:r:y into t1:e citi es and' fro:n inside Vietnam to the outside. Our pOSition is: Korth "NOvl
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