The Bhakti Illusion / 227
of subtle body, causal body, the concept of “is” and “not is” concept of appearing, disappearing, what must it now know? Student:
_______(Long silence)_______It’s all bullshit.
Wolinsky: Why must this concept called “my” consciousness not know that all of this is bullshit? Student:
Because it doesn’t want to go . . . then there’s no . . . it’s not.
Wolinsky: If the “awarer” and knower of all of this, including the concept of it’s all bullshit itself—if all of that is made of the SAME underlying SUBSTANCE, which had nothing to do with anything, then . ..? Student:
_______(Long silence)_______It is no more; it is not.
Wolinsky: If this concept called “my” consciousness, which believes in the concept of I am, the concept called “is” and “not is,” the concept of a past, the concept of present, the concept of future, the concepts of light body, energy, the concepts of subtle body, causal body in your heart and mind, the concept of self, which has to have all these concepts to keep itself going, the concept of the body—if all of these concepts were made of the SAME underlying SUBSTANCE, including the “awarer” and knower of all of this, and it had nothing to do with anything, then . . . ? Student:
_______(Long silence)_______(silence).