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The cause of Canadian culture is ill-served by men such as Michael J. Estok. (feedback, 20 august 1969 ) Mr. Estok does not deal with the Mathew’s report, and the influence of Americans in Canada. Instead, he exhibits his own personal prejudices against the University of Toronto, and the white-anglo-saxon-protestants. Americans are known for their belief that anything and everything has its price. It would seem that Mr. Estok’s price has been met. How much does he hope to accomplishwith such out and out flattery? Does Mr. Estok feel that by licking their boots, his American bosses (53.125 percent of the english department) will raise his pay or perhaps look more favorably on a future promotion? Mr. Estok clearly believes that by defending Canada’s owners he is bound to receive special attention. We only hope that the Americans (the sole defenders of Canadianism) will not be taken in by this gimmick. Perhaps the cultural pursuits of Canada have set themselves an impossible goal. Perhaps the University of Toronto shouldn’t try to protect and develop our culture. After all haven’t the American’s shown that they can easily buy any piece of Canada that they want. And after the brain-washing by such Americanadians as Mr. Estok and an infamous red-herring student council, the people of Canada don’t even seem to care. Oh! We should add that Mr. Estok has nothing to fear from the University of Toron to professors because there are only 9 of them out of a staff of 32. We congratulate you Mr. Estok on your very shrewd move! ! ! Keep up the good work. Could it be that Mr. Estok didn’t have the guts to stand alone and say what he thought? However isn’t it true that its always easier to be brave among friends? Could it be that the nasty looks given to Mr Estok were merely mirages of his fear veiled eyes? We can only hope. The student council has called ‘the issue unimportant; a ‘redherring’. Isn’t. it time that we quit fooling ourselves? Isn’t it time that we stand up and say that we are CANADIANS We must also thank Mr. Estok for defending the students of this university. He is truly noble. Does he think that the Canadian university students can be taken in by his disguised propaganda. Fellow barbarians, Mr. Estok is a brave man! We can only hope that his bravery isn’t infectious. ME AND YOU arts 2 Socialism so let’s

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I would like to comment on Wednesday night’s discussion with Eric Mann on socialism. I believe that Mann’s true socialism is seemingly sensible but not realistic. I believe that a true socialism can never really exist. Men aren’t made that way. There would be too much friction from the society as a whole. Mann deplores police and refers to them as pigs but in reality a true socialist country would be overrun with police.

The simple fact of the matter I think lies in this example. Say a farmer raises 50 chickens in a socialist state. The government takes 40 away and leaves the farmer with ten. The 40 chickens are the farmer’s debt to his society. So the farmer benefits in that he is serving himself and his brothers. But as the case will be the farmer will care little next year because he knows he can survive on less than his allowance. So the next year he only bothers with raising 30 chickens and sleeps the rest of his time away. Therefore he may only receive five chickens from the government, His neighbor may however keep raising 50 chickens each year and receiving ten in return. He may after several years be the better off farmer. He is not equal. The balance is lost because the first farmer didn’t want to be bothered with the work. Ideally of course the two farmers would want to work to their capacity for self-satisfaction, but this is not always the case. People are human individuals and not the same. Some care about being a good citizen and socialist and others don’t. So what is to be done with the unproductive farmer? To make him work harder would involve police which Eric Mann deplores. You could starve him out but this would be a form of oppression. I believe that a true socialism is not realistic but a moderate socialism is. One which protects old people, mentally ill people, disabled people and also controls big business robbery and racial oppression. But a true socialism is not realistic. To let laziness such as that of the chicken farmer go would make him lazier but to oppress his way of life by force would also make matters worse. So therefore a moderation between force and permissiveness is necessary. This unfortunately to a certain extent involves force such as is present in Canada today. But of course force such as that in Daley’s Chicago is not the force anyone needs or wants but force is necessary and Eric Mann’s dislike for authority is unrealistic. Negroes, Jews, Indians and others are all being oppressed but I believe like Eric Mann that they should be stood up for and aided. Because, of course, racial oppression is straight ignorance and should not be tolerated. But I believe that Mann’s call for violence will not better matters-but will cause needless death among workers who are supposed to be helped and not killed. In an all-out war the oppressors of the races would be well equipped for confused violence. True, many will fall to ignorant oppression but in the case of war many more people would fall than if the situation was not with the nonviolent approach. Mann also stated that men who are for non-violence are afraid for themselves. I do not think this is always the case. Martin Luther King knew America was sick and full of hatred but he didn’t back down from his oppressors. And this resulted in his death. If he was that fearful for himself he wouldn’t have kept fighting in his own way. He would have surrounded himself with militants and body guards or dropped out completely. I hope such individuals as Eric

Mann will see their faults and strive for more realistic aims and not be the victim of lofty ideals. After all, true socialism hasn’t been found in Russia, China or any other so-inclined country and they have all tried for it. So a moderate socialism has to be accepted. ROBERT EADY arts 1 Gospel profs,

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“He who interferes with free discussion and exercise of the rule of reason exhibits behavior unfit for the academic community. ” Thus spake the committee of Ontario university presidents. Since it is normally the professor’s role to interfere with free discussion, and since the administrator prefers to speak from a position of power rather than to appeal to reason, the presidents would have us believe that students only are fit for membership in their academic community. * * * If our professors were politically aware, they would realize that academic freedom should not apply only to themselves.

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I heard another cynic last night. Eric Mann. Blasting the world for its mistakes Which he was never able to make So, his reply: One glorious revolution.. . The biggest and best mistake Of all time.

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