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HIVE AND DOUBLE ELEANOR ALDRICH + BARBARA WEISSBERGER

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difficult, difficult, lemon, difficult


HIVE AND DOUBLE ELEANOR ALDRICH & BARBARA WEISSBERGER MARCH 26 - APRIL 23, 2016

In Hive and Double, Aldrich and Weissberger present a collaborative body of work

about

the

installation

or

exhibition

between production and product.

of

large

work

that

blurs

the

lines

Touching on the tension between the possi-

bilities of the studio and the singularity of the installed work,

their output is

about artistic production and labor in post-industrial studios and DIY exhibition spaces . In addition to the physical labor involved in dealing with substances, there is a consideration of preserving space for mystery, the unexpected, and the phenomenological. "The

work

comes

together

through

Skype

chats,

emails,

individual

material

investigations, and the final in-person negotiation of the works in relation to each other and in space. In this way, our work explores the nature of collaboration and authorship, and challenges the assumed autonomy of the physical art object by allowing it to be borrowed for different configurations, to live in multiple contexts. We are curious about perception and reality. Together our work forms structures within which the actual (real) thing, abstraction, pictorial space and physical space freely circulate and mingle. Material and substance are mutable. Idea and matter, belief and doubt, are framed in terms of a fluid, multidirectional exchange. We make (or alter) all the objects in the installations, and even the flattest parts (photograph and canvas) are called out as physical objects. The

most

obviously

physical,

the

so-called

real

things

(hand-made

chair

or

shoe for example) also hover at the edge of image. Ultimately mysterious, our work harkens back to a time when the in-situ nature of painting and sculpture put them in close proximity to the actual objects of church and home, and architectural features and physical object guide the transition from the actual to the implied space, and encompasses conversations of metamorphosis

and

transubstantiation,

Aldrich + Weissberger eleanoraldrich.com barbaraweissberger.net

belief

and

the

nature

of

reality."

//


hive and double


eleanor aldrich united paint buckets. oil, enamel, paper and silicone, approx 8" x 6" x 6" e. 2016


barbara weissberger hammer nose, archival pigment prints, custom shaped frames, 21.5� x 36� 2016


ELEANOR ALDRICH + BARBARA WEISSBERGER IN CONVERSATION WITH CHARLIE SMITH ON THE OCCASION OF HIVE AND DOUBLE AT GRIN

Charlie Smith: Both of you mentioned to me that you like puns. This makes me

think

about

specifically,

the

doubling,

or,

idea

something

of

more

“doubling as”. For example, this exercise bicycle washing machine pictured here.

This

exists

for

is

a

the

phenomenon

sake

of

that

efficiency

-

literally doing two things at the same time. Knowing that you work remotely but your individual practices are intricately can

woven

you

with

speak

a

the

collaboration,

little

on

how

the

nature of making an object is or isn’t

What

influenced

was

by

knowing

that

it

will

brought that

we

us

together

had

a

originally

natural

affinity

need to be a part of a dialogue that

towards each other’s work. I think we

you can’t see until you’re on site?

are still in sync, as far as the rather banal

objects

we

are

with,

our

interest

Eleanor Aldrich: Usually we start out

working

with a vague idea of what we will be

considerations

working

space,

with.

Our

installation

at

the

Drawing Center started with the idea

and

like

our

interested

the

shared

in

in

formal

illusion

of

conviction

in

the autonomy of the object.

of something that would be displayed on the floor, so that got me thinking

Barbara Weissberger: I love the idea

about rugs, and we already had the

of the pun as double, or doubling as.

loose idea of a mop. But, I think it

It resonates with our discussion about

is

our

the edge between image and object,

collaboration that we both have auton-

material and image, individual mark or

omy

are

gesture, and representation. For Hive

us

and Double we arrived at the conceit

doesn’t

of a show within a show. Among the

critical over

making are

in

to

the

(or

with)

the

studio.

executors.

precede

success

the

The

object.

what

of we

Neither idea But,

of

there

is

objects

in

it,

mostly

hand-made

by

some necessary consideration of how

us, some would refer to the tools of

it will fit together. What I do is make

the

or gather up more work than we will

would

need, and then edit in the space.

exhibition.

studio be

and the

gallery,

finished

and

works

some of

an

The audience will be left


to piece together what is extraneous

BW:

and what is the final product. In The

spiritualize the banal objects either. I

Ecological

have

Thought,

Timothy

Morton

I

wouldn’t always

say

been

The

I

drawn

to

abject

at the end of its whiskers or at the

sad quality that interests me. Some-

end of a beaver’s dam?” Our installa-

thing about pathos in humble things.

tion would express the “phenotype” of

There’s

the work of art; how it extends from

photographs and much of what I set

artist or tools or studio, to viewer or

up is on the floor - a humble, abject

gallery space.

place, but also solid and grounding. Eleanor,

The

answer

is

it

stops

at

the

I

a

tools

to

things.

always

and

want

asks “Does the beaver phenotype stop

EA:

mops

that

lot

believe

of

you

have

dirt

work

in

a

my

on

the

floor a lot too.

beaver’s “damn!”. Eleanor had been playing around with CS: Hahaha! Of course!

portraits,

This makes me think of performance,

seemed that portraiture - rooted in art

or,

history,

so

also makes me question what we can

can

taken

or can’t call “making”. I’m not particu-

as raw material - would be a useful

larly interested in the Beuys model –

subject for the internal show. Because

as in, let’s all get together and watch

anything

this grand spectacle where the Artist

often is, a part of my images, I start-

enlightens

what

ed by thinking about tools. Within the

your collaboration is doing. It’s closer

fluid space that I like to work in, the

to,

tools became part of loose portraits -

perhaps

let’s

these

performative

us. all

get

people

recycling.

But,

do

What

objects/actions

making.

that’s

together dishes is

that

not and

or

watch

sort

it

about

you

refer

It

the

these to

as

and

be

after

familiar

in

for

the

some that

time

the

granted

studio

portrait

and

can

it

used

be,

and

twin heads with an oversized plaster hammer that I made for a nose. While

we

are

both

and emails and talk on the phone, so

it

has

something

to

do

throughout

the

exchange

and

with the hierarchy of objects or prac-

happens

tice,

send

but,

speaking

for

myself,

it

is

on

not as much about wanting to spiritu-

sometimes

alize the banal as it is pointing out

work

the mystery and potential - the talis-

make,

mans

text

of

human

experience

that

the

objects are. The experience of seeing

a

photos in

process subtle

back

and

next

that

messages

level.

and to

would

As

each

loop

is

which

forth,

pieces

can

jpegs

there

influence,

respond the

exchange

our

tualize them as handmade, cared for? Maybe

we

in

separate

EA:

studios

working

“banal” that makes you want to spiri-

we we

other’s that

we

back.

Our

make

a

good

archive of our process.

the back of someone’s head is like seeing a mop with its head up. Even

CS: Putting a face on an object is a

in

strong statement about giving it a life.

the

most

sanctified

or

set

aside

places you have the banal, the tile,

Are

the cleaning products, the napkins.

people when you make a portrait, or

you

thinking

of

any

specific


is it more like you’re looking for the

selves

face

that

would

arrangement

of

belong

at

odds.

With

your

“Collage

to

this

Formations”, Barbara, our perspective

hammers/tools?

How

into your confusing spaces are totally

does a tool get anthropomorphized?

contained window sion.

by

the

looking

Eleanor,

frame

into you

-

like

another often

a

dimen-

break

the

frame to bring us out of that container

and

into

the

very

real

space

between our bodies and the surfaces we look at. How do you locate the frame when you collapse these logics, that

is,

if

it

can

be

located?

Is

it

extruded? BW: Collapse may be a good way to think about the frame(s), or perhaps expanded is better. One of the things that

happens

to

our

images

and

objects, in the context of the collaboration, is that the photograph, painting, or object becomes material. So, yes, the frame is critical to the experience BW:

Wow.

I

am

really

not

thinking

about a specific person. I don’t think I have a precise portrait in mind at all, although with the piece “The Saddest Clown” I did have the intention of making a sad clown. Mostly I go by feel. It’s really an improvisation. I think

about

a

face,

features,

and

poke around the studio for things to use. I like to use things in ways that take them outside of their usual functions

or

associations,

although

that’s

not even so conscious. There’s a lot of trial and error. I think I have a natural inclination to anthropomorphize things in a cartoonish way. CS: In each of your individual practices, the frame seems like an important tool, but the manners in which each of you employ this tool find them

of

graphs,

the

but

spaces

when

in

the

my

photo-

photograph

is

curled over an object or painting of Eleanor’s

the

paper-ness

and

the

edges of the print are in high-relief. I’m

not

feeling

sure of

if

an

this

image

intensifies held

the

inside

a

frame, or if it somehow acts against the pictorial. Maybe both.

Eleanor do

you think the interaction of our separate

elements

between

thing

shifts and

the

tensions

image

in

your

work? EA: Yes. I want my images to first be taken as objects, and then seen in

terms

of

image.

The

installation

gets rid of the fixed viewpoint, and therefore

the

frame.

But

I

like

the

play between actual light and shadow, and photographed or painted light and shadow. There are so many different realities couched in them.


BW:

Right!

I

think

that’s

critical

to

both our work - the tension between actual and depicted light. CS: I also am intensely focused on this phenomenon when I look at the work. I think that your collaboration is one

of

images

those

situations

and

where

documentation

the

of

the

work can be considered an extension of the making process. It’s one form of

experience,

experience This

is

in

of

the

definitely

to

person.

in

related

collage

formations,

coming

back

to

addition work

to

your

I

keep

Barbara.

the

the

image

of

the

“gloves” (?). I can’t tell if they are objects carved from foam, then placed on

the

surface

of

a

book,

or

if

they’re actually printed into the image IN the book, or both. I keep looking at the shadows beneath the hand and trying to discern if the shadow is cast on

the

object,

page or

if

of

the

the

book

shadow

is

by part

the of

the image. There’s

something

really

interesting

about trying to discern the “reality” of an object by looking at its shadow like

measuring

the

volume

of

an

object through displacement. I’m also interested in this idea of a practice that can continue to grow to encompass

more

and

more

of

itself,

its

“background labor”. Documentation is, perhaps, part of that realm. This collaboration is still in an infantile state, but it’s like The Blob… It’s GROWING…… IT’S GROWING!!!!!!! Will it ever stop? Are there boundaries in your lives that you are holding onto? As an extension of this question, is there an “adult form” for your practice?

BW: Oh that’s cool, I’m glad to

hear

about that uncertainty. EA: I like what you said about shadows

-

They

are

never

wrong,

are

they? BW: I’m not sure I would put it in terms of infancy and maturity, but I suppose there’s something to that. In the

relatively

been

process

and

evolved

a

happens.

It

in

short

working

time

together, what lot.

we’re

Eleanor

we’ve

think see

to

our

doing

We’ll

continues

progress.

that I

be

has

has what

a

work

described

the coming together of the parts to make a new whole as phenomenological. EA:

Yeah,

I

don’t

know

where

the

collaboration will go; if we can make it

through

years,

the

and

emotionally a

gap

raw

year

teen

finding

ourselves in Europe, we might have a chance at an “adult form.” But in all seriousness, I think something we are talking about and considering for the

future

is

collaboration

how -

the

we

document

types

of

our

spaces

we show in. Labor in a DIY space is different

from

a

non-profit,

which

is

different from a commercial or educational space. I think one boundary


that we hold onto is that most of the

portrait

objects

that might be out when putting up the

are

made

or

altered

by

us.

show,

as

well

as

So, if you unpack the photos all the

exhibition,

or

way down, you end up with objects

hammers,

buckets,

etc.

from a handmade parallel universe.

important

to

that

in

the

us

the

studio; It

stuff

ladders,

was

we

very

weren’t

making work with some false pretense CS: There’s so much distance packed

around it. We weren’t aping personas

into

of other artists to make the portrait

this

collaboration.

Both

of

you

work nomadically, alternating between

work.

different cities, states, even regions of

open-ended

the country. It’s interesting how both

from.

It

just

became

phrase

to

few

objects

another

make

work

of you then make things that are so focused on what’s immediately in front

There

of

a

actually made the trip between Knox-

any,

ville and Pittsburgh, and early on in

you,

but

possible

always

“coming

stay

tied

together”.

to

If

are

a

that

have

what is the role of narrative in your

our

collaboration

(a

whopping

year

collaboration?

and

a

we

did

each

Can

you

trace

the

half

ago)

send

evolution of an object from Knoxville,

other more objects to use in composi-

to

tions. There were some silicone mop

Montana,

to

Pittsburgh,

to

Provi-

dence?

heads that appeared in each of our work,

but

I

think

we

aren’t

as

agreed

that

EA: Well, no-mad is an island. Place

generally

doesn’t

the same thing changing mediums as

work

really

matter

goes.

Barbara

The

and

I

as

far

distance

is

always

as

my

between so

large

anyway, it doesn’t matter if she is in

we

we

were

in

distinct

interested

things

we

in

have

made coming together. Barbara?

Pittsburgh or Montana, our collaborative

process

emailing

BW: Agree. I think we do both work

is the same. The places that matter

with what’s in front of us, and have

are

together.

a DIY attitude. I myself like to work

Then, it matters how big the space

in various studios with a pared down

is, and how much we could mail/fit in

kit of tools and materials. I like how

our car, and how much time we have.

it

But I think we have always taken on

Eleanor says. This carries through to

limitations

the installation, where we try to work

when

of

we

as

texting are

part

and

actually

of

our

work.

I

know I am always working just on the

pushes

me

toward

invention

-

as

from a position of responsiveness.

verge of material deficit, and it makes me more inventive. Both our work has

CS:

that kind of DIY aesthetic.

your practice must radically fluctuate

I’m

from As

far

as

narrative

goes,

Hive

and

imaging

studio

frame

to

anything we have done so far. Work-

How

does

ing

change

the

idea

that

we

were

making “work” for a loosely defined

the

pace

installation

of

space.

You’ll only have a short, rigid time-

Double has more of a narrative than with

to

how

work when

once

your

you

decision

you’ve

meet

up.

making

entered

this

space of necessarily immediate resolu


tion?

Can

two

minds

tackling

the

same problems work them out in half the

time,

or

does

it

take

twice

as

long to reach two understandings with equal validity? The

the

installation

as

tight

we

time

frame

is

make

discrete

for

doing

energizing.

The

independently

exist

objects.

When

we

bring

them together for the installation they have a dual life (back to the double). Each object is a separate thing and also is material. This relates to the idea

of

bridging

the

studio

and

the

object

in

the the

flux.

space

between

gallery,

keeping

When

we

install,

our larger ideas provide the ground. I

think

we

both

make

a

lot

of

the

formal and conceptual decisions from instinct.

Probably,

because

of

the

at

least

deadline,

in

part,

momentum

carries the whole thing. We seem to find

a

synergy

Certainly clearly

in

working

have

working with

been

together.

objects

made

by

that

one

or

the other, we each have to be willing to

allow

some

distance

ourselves

and

the

made.

that

is

But

between

objects where

we’ve

things

get

interesting, where the pieces take on a second life in this third thing, the collaborative piece. EA:

Yes

-

that

thing!

I

think

work coming together is that we work in a way that is natural to how we each work individually. I know I am driven by the mystery in objects and combinations of objects, and I use all of

tive

plan

on

one

occasion,

and

it

didn’t work, so it really is just a lot of trial and error with the limitations

materials,

CS:

So,

found

and

other-

wise. I think Barbara is similar in that she makes photos, but also objects, and uses found objects. We both

you

both

make

work

with

what you have around you, and, time is

one

of

resource limited,

those

that but

resources,

is

totally

also

albeit

relative

somehow

a

and

useful

in

can

be

that sense? EA:

Yes

-

I

think

collage

incredibly paralyzing - the tyranny of endless

choice.

Time

is

a

good

constraint in that way, as is the practicality

of

bringing

only

what

fits

in

the car. So much of my work relies on constraints. I work with materials that are just out of reach of my ability

to

control

them.

That

is

what

makes it exciting, and where some of the

mystery

our

collaboration

comes

from.

goes,

As it

far

is

as

really

important to leave the work and come back to it, whether just for a coffee break, or overnight. BW:

Ha!

that

found

I

find

collage

material

-

liberating things

in

that

already exist, even if I initially made them

third

what is crucial to the success of the

kinds

installing work with a more prescrip-

we have.

BW:

objects

have an affinity for collage. We tried

as

parts

for

something

else

provide something to respond to. The

way

I

work

there’s

always

the

possibility of re-recombining elements into new configurations – aaahhh! And that

also

goes

to

some

extent

with

the way we’re approaching the installation. It may be somewhat arbitrary, but time constraints are a good catalyst for finishing a piece. CS: In an earlier text, you offer a


mop as a symbol for something you

Rcall O S“backstage S N O R labor”. M A N DIt’s I Na

phrase

that articulates how you’re looking for an overlap in actions that are directly tied to making an object - painting, photographing, sculpting

- with more

ritualistic actions that provide structure for working artists - cleaning, earning income,

maintaining.

In

the

newer

text, it seems like you’ve replaced the term

“backstage”

What

new

with

“domestic”.

understanding

about

your

collaboration led you to this change? How

would

you

articulate

the

differ-

or private/public partly comes out of thinking about provisional painting (a phrase coined by Raphael Rubinstein where

the

finished

non-product,

an

is

a

anti-masterpiece,

product

a

partially wiped canvas), Warhol’s Brillo boxes, and Jasper John’s objects from around the studio. BW:

I

would

Johns,

add,

to

Oldenburg’s

Warhol

Mouse

and

Museum

collection of small models, made fragments and found objects.

ence between these two phrases?

EA: Rubinstein describes provisionality

EA: Well, there is a long history of

task of painting - a kind of slacker

“domestic”

as

analogous

with

as

“back-

stage” in terms of female roles, and it is something I am certainly aware of.

Both

kinds

of

labor

deal

with

physical substances. It is also something that has to do with private and public. our

As

artists,

labor

and

or

object

action

is

makers, done

in

private, but the showing is staged in public. I am not sure if we changed backstage to domestic for a specific reason other than that we developed another

idea

for

a

more

literally

staged show. I guess we use “backstage” and “domestic” both to refer to the studio, and the implied authenticity that comes from doing something in

private.

studio, ence

Still,

we to

are

some

of

course,

thinking degree,

in

about and

the audi-

who

or

what the work is in conversation with, as

well

That

is

as

speaking

what

this

to

show

each

other.

plays

with,

the idea that the “backstage”, or the stuff

that

contributes

face,

can

be

staged

to

the

public

itself, and

can

painters

not

showing

up

for

the

cool, or Zen humility, or the flexing of

a

privileged

position.

On

its

surface, it is a kind of spill, a half finished job, something that traditionally

would

be

left

backstage

to

be

cleaned up later. In making the work for this show I have been thinking a lot about the history of painting and its

doppelgangers

example,

my

an-esque

tile

in

piece

the

with

being

home, the

for

Mondri-

cleaned

with

a

plaster rag. BW: “Backstage” and “domestic” both suggest labor that is hidden and in support

of

primary

-

something we

can

else

leave

that

it

to

is the

viewer to draw connections to labor, gender and other inequities. the

tension

between

For me,

private

and

public speaks to a condition particular to

the

object

studio

out

as

into

it the

goes

from

the

I

am

world.

always looking for a way to keep the play

and

studio

be interesting or valuable.

finished

The collapse of backstage/exhibition

objects.

always

an

open-endedness

of

active

in

work.

presence

What

interested

in

Eleanor the

the the said;

mystery

of


CS: Right, and so much of that mys-

boundary between exterior and interior,

tery seems to be coming from us not

that we call “blinds”, but we actually

being

can see through…

able

identifying

to it

contain or

the

labeling

thing it

in

by an

EA: Right - glad it reads that way.

all-encompassing way. On

the

can’t

subject

help

Landscape

but in

Eleanor,

as

element

about

of

private/public,

think

of

this

Front

of

Blinds,

embodying how

an

the

I

piece, by

important

collaborative

practice approaches this subject. I get emotional when I look at this painting.

It’s

choly.

beautiful,

Formally

and

there

very are

so

melanmany

reversals happening. We see a repre sentation of outdoor space, that would belong in an interior, in front of a

CHARLIE SMITH Charlie Smith, born in Copenhagen, Denmark, received his BFA from Massachusetts College of Art and Design in 2010. He currently lives and works in Hudson, New York. charliesmithartist.com


eleanor aldrich chicana, oil and silicone, approx. 30" x 28" 2016


barbara weissberger slant, digital photograph/archival pigment print, 2016


eleanor aldrich tile with plaster rag (detail), acrylic, enamel, plaster wrap, tile and pigment on panel approx. 28" x 34" 2016


GRIN GRIN

is

a

contemporary

art

gallery

located

at

The

Plant

in

the

historic

Olneyville District of Providence, Rhode Island. Directed by Corey Oberlander and Lindsey Stapleton, GRIN was founded in 2013 as a space for artists to develop and exhibit their work with a steady curatorial hand. Our intent is to develop an intellectually demanding yet aesthetically pleasing program, focusing on emerging artists working across mediums. Our hope is to stimulate fresh dialogue while continuing to promote the development of the local creative community. Our mission is to support the careers of underexposed artists with a devotion to craft and conceptual advancement. grinprovidence.com

CONTACT 60 Valley Street, Unit 3, Providence, Rhode Island

02909

e. contact@grinprovidence.com p. 401 272 0796 Open Saturdays 12PM - 5PM by announcement, appointment and chance.z



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