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Kathy Griffin

Keeps on Surviving

By Chris Azzopardi Photos: Jen Rosenstein

Kathy Griffin has been through even more than you Yeah, give it to me. probably know. She lost a lung to cancer, lost her Because people want to know, “Come on, how mother and lost many of her close friends. In 2020, did you get complex PTSD? You’re exaggerating, the same year her beloved mom Maggie died, she blah, blah, blah,” which is also always so pleasant, attempted suicide. All the while, she was being when people are like, “You’re lying.” Obviously, the investigated by the Department of Justice for a viral Trump thing started six and a half years ago. I was 2017 photo that depicted her holding up a severed investigated by the Department of Justice, which model head covered in fake blood that resembled seriously considered charging me with conspiracy Donald Trump, resulting in a career-dismantling to assassinate the President of the United States fallout. She is also now in the middle of a divorce. — it’s never happened in the history of this nation to a comedian. No-fly list, not able to tour, my So much has happened to Griffin in just the last own industry turning its back on me. Most of my seven years that it’s easy for something like her friends turning their backs on me permanently, by three-year-old court battle with Tennessee resident the way. And then what do I do? Leave it to me Samuel Johnson to slip under the radar, which to be 57 years old and then become addicted to Griffin says it has. The comedian is being sued by fucking prescription pills, like “Valley of the Dolls,” Johnson, who is blaming Griffin for losing his CEO- and I was Neely O’Hara. Well, naturally, I wanted level job after she tagged his employer in a post to be Neely O’Hara, but I was probably more like on X, formerly Twitter, in response to his recorded Susan Hayward. I love that you get that reference. altercation with a teenage boy in downtown Franklin I was ripping my wig off in the bathroom and ready who he called “disgusting” for wearing a long red for a cat fight. Then, of course, I have to get into dress to prom in 2021, reports The Tennessean. recovery, but before that, I tried to take my life.

During our recent call, Griffin, hoping to reach I know it sounds dark, because what isn’t these LGBTQ+ advocacy groups like GLAAD and the days, but I even talk about that in the show. I won’t ACLU, spoke with a sense of urgency when she tell you what I did, but the way I tried to take my called attention to her court case, imploring the life was so over the top that I actually just started LGBTQ+ community to understand that this fight cracking up. I do it in front of the audience, and they that she says she is fighting alone could be any of actually laugh. The reason I do that is because I us. “The decision could have broader implications firmly believe truly, at your lowest, darkest moment, on the jurisdiction — and legal liability — of free you have to somehow find the humor. It’s there. It’s speech in online platforms,” writes Angele Latham, there, and sometimes, it’s dark as fuck. a First Amendment reporter for The Tennessean. In an era when more than 470 anti-LGBTQ+ bills have Then I get sober, and a year after I’m sober, I get been introduced in state legislatures nationwide diagnosed with lung cancer, even though I never over the past few years, many of them targeting smoked, which my dear departed mother Maggie queer youth, who can blame Griffin for standing up would call the luck of the Irish, which means bad for a bullied kid in a dress? Even before her Emmy- luck. By the way, Maggie is in heaven having a box winning hit Bravo show “My Life on the D-List,” of wine, or Two Buck Chuck with the Lord Jesus. which aired from 2005 to 2010, gave her a major She died during that period as well. Then I was platform to be the LGBTQ+ activist she is, that on a 5150 psych hold, which was crazy. And then, during my lung cancer surgery, they took out half of show of allyship came naturally to Griffin. my left lung. Chris, I don’t like how you’re flaunting On her first tour in six years, aptly titled “My Life your two lungs in my face right now. I think it’s rude. on the PTSD List,” which stops at the Royal Oak Music Theatre on April 19, Griffin isn’t just giving This is why I said we’re doing this as a phone play-by-plays on Paris Hilton and her vacation conversation, not a Zoom conversation. gone awry with Sia — she’s using her stage to get See, because I can hear you breathing right in my people to vote. Because if anyone knows that the fucking face, Chris. I have feelings. stakes are high this year, it’s her.

I’m trying to hold my breath.

I have half a lung now and I can hear your breath.

How are you doing, Kathy?

I have PTSD, Chris. Complex PTSD, which I I got injured during the lung cancer half-a-lung thought was only for combat veterans. Holy shit, I removal, so I have a permanently paralyzed left can’t believe it… I was diagnosed by my oncologist vocal cord. It’s not like I’m a comic and use my and my psychiatrist, and I’ve got to laugh about it, voice for a living or anything! I have an aperture because I’m somebody that runs around on stage above my cords, so my voice is a bit altered, as making jokes about the Kardashians, and now, you can tell, but I wear this very sexy headset I’ve got this crazy diagnosis. I decided to make microphone. the show about it, because once again, like oh so many things that have happened to me in the last I feel like you’ve gotten some of the voice back, six years, I just did not think it would happen. I start though.

Yes, I’ve had five surgeries on my left cord so the show with the laundry list. Are you ready? far. I’m making my life sound real fucking dreamy right now. By the way, I’m getting texts from

Rosie O’Donnell right now. She’s like, “Griffin, the target, and I’m out there fighting this thing by it’s O’Donnell. Are you awake? I’m awake.” myself. You hear the kids in the video; they’re so scared. They keep saying to the guy, “Leave me During this period in which you felt abandoned alone. Leave me alone. Go away. Go away.” by some people who were really close to you, did you at least feel like your gay friends were These kids are scared in the video. Being an ally standing by you as they have in the past? isn’t just showing up at a parade with a rainbow You saw Anderson [Cooper] and Andy [Cohen] shirt on. Sometimes, being an ally means being in take my [New Year’s Eve] gig. You saw it.

Tennessee federal court for three years, and being in the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, where I just But you’ve had so many close LGBTQ+ people lost a motion. in your life. Did they rally around you? Did you Let me tell you, if I lose this case, it has real feel loved and supported by close queer friends repercussions for anybody posting about anybody and your queer fan community? who’s harassing gay people. If I lose this case, it No. The power gays absolutely abandoned me, has real repercussions for the gay community. This and I say that with such a heavy heart. I’m going to isn’t about me. I’m not fighting for me. I could have try not to cry. For example, I would say the civilian said nothing, but I’m a real ally, and I’ve been one gays 100% rallied around me. My friends that since I was in grade school, for Christ’s sake. I aren’t in the business who are gay were appalled, need people to know I’m fighting this fight, because and they buoyed me, and they held me up, and this guy is out there shooting his mouth off. they were my friends, and I owe them for the rest of my life. But the power gays in Hollywood, the ones What you’ve gone through in the last seven who could have lifted a finger, the ones who could years, and are currently going through, is a real have just given me five lines in anything, the ones testament to your resilience and survival. who could have put me in just a little part in a TV That’s what I want it to be. I don’t mean to come off show or a movie or directed a comedy special or as woe is me, and honestly, that’s why I do make something, anything, they did nothing. the show funny. I even talk about all my wacky treatments that I get for the PTSD. After this, I’m Honey, I showed up and hosted every free charity having Kundalini yoga, and I don’t even know what event. I’ve had so many legal issues since this the fuck that is. I don’t know if Kundalini is a person, MAGA thing. I have a case in Tennessee federal if I should meet him or her, but I just fucking do court right now, and I’m asking for your help, it. I get that cupping — remember when Gwyneth because I need the gay community to support Paltrow was getting those fucking scars on her me. I don’t think they know I’m fighting this fight, back? Well, I do that shit, I don’t even think it works. and I’m out there flapping in the wind by myself. I get acupuncture, I don’t even think it works. I talk Now, there’s a video, you can look it up. Write about all of it in the show, because I think in a way, this down: Samuel Johnson. If you look up “Kathy our country is going through a bit of a PTSD. Let’s Griffin, Samuel Johnson,” this is a CEO, and the face it, Covid was not our finest moment. We did video went viral. You probably saw it. He’s a MAGA not handle that well. guy that was harassing two trans kids at their prom photo shoot. One of the boys was wearing I’m going to get serious for one more minute, which a red dress, and he was bothering them. I tweeted is, these shows are so important to me, and having about it after it had already gone viral on TikTok. I gay people show up to my shows, because I do wasn’t even on TikTok at the time; I am now, but I feel, and you know this, your civil rights are being wasn’t then. It had already been seen by millions rolled back. The Supreme Court is now illegitimate. of people, and millions of people said he should I want to make gay people laugh, and I want to be fired. stand there and go, “I’m OK.” I might have a bit of an altered voice, and it sounds like I have a cough, Then I said he should be fired. He got fired, and but honestly, I’m not in one bit of pain. My voice is he’s suing me. He goes on Newsmax, and he goes just like this now, and the headset mic really helps on Fox, and says, “I’m going to be the one to drag a lot. Don’t be fooled. I do a rant every show, and Kathy Griffin to Tennessee federal court, and let’s my agents don’t like that I do it, but I don’t care. I see how she does with her Hollywood elite attitude say, “Gays, remember, elections are not just every in a Tennessee witness box.” Nobody’s helping four years, or every two years. They are every year, me. I’ve been fighting this case for three years by and often, the down-ballot is more important than myself. Thirty years of performing and showing up the presidential. Go to your gay organization that at [LGBTQ+] events, and I’m left all alone, and I you trust, and they’ll do the work for you, but get don’t know why. Lambda Legal, anybody? ACLU your voter guides, because the sheriff matters, the said, “No, we don’t want to help you. We don’t judges matter, the congressman matters, the local care.” I said, “This is just me fighting for these senators matter, the U.S. senators matter.” two kids.” They were minors being harassed at their prom photo shoot in a hotel lobby. This guy The great Gloria Steinem… I spoke to her recently, should have been fired. It’s like a Karen video. He’s and I’m bragging, but I did. She said, “You tell your basically a Karen. But because it’s Kathy Griffin, gays, this is it. This is it.” As you know, your own and because Trump keeps coming for me, I’m civil rights, if Trump gets reelected, not only kiss

marriage goodbye, it’s going to be real fucking it when I’ll have a heterosexual guy say to me after hard to be an out gay person in Trump’s America. a show, “Man, I didn’t think I knew any gay people, There’s my rant. I’ll go back to the funny, but I just but I’m sitting here in the audience, and now, I feel think, because I’m talking to you, I just want you to like I know a thousand gay people.” And I always tell, especially the young gays that think their vote say, “You do.” Sometimes it’s the simple act of doesn’t matter, your vote matters even if you live in just gay people and straight people just laughing a blue state. together that creates a bridge. I know that sounds silly, and philosophical, but it’s true. Laughter is a Are you really doing two hour shows on this unifier. tour?

The other night in Phoenix, I accidentally did two Look, people don’t know this, but I have plenty of hours and 20 minutes. Don’t be late. Whatever time Republican friends. I just saw George Conway last the show starts, that’s when I start, and I do two week. I teased him about being a double agent, but hours if I’m a good girl, and I do two hours and 20 we’re friends. Kathy and Rick Hilton, I’ve known if I’m a bad girl. them for years. They go to Mar-a-Lago. I wish they wouldn’t. We have a two-party system, and we This is your Eras Tour. should. There’s ways to remind people that we’re [Laughs.] By the way, let’s just cut the shit. Taylor going to get through this crazy phase. By the way, Swift is amazing, but you know Pink wants to blow for shits and giggles, I’ll tell you, I’ve never seen her brains out, because Pink is looking at Taylor anything like it in my whole career, as divided as Swift walking around the stage, and Pink is singing the country is. We need the laughs. We need to upside down on fucking ribbons. Give me a break. laugh right in its face, but we also need to gossip I love Taylor, don’t make the Swifties come after about Paris Hilton. me. I’m terrified of them. I love Taylor. Haha, I’m kidding. I didn’t mean anything. I love them.

Speaking of gossip, do I need to come to the show to hear what in the world is going on How do you feel comedy can serve as a tool behind the scenes of “Queer Eye”? for LGBTQ+ advocacy and visibility in this Yes, you do. climate?

Look, the greatest compliment that I get, and I get You know something I don’t? this a lot and it really makes my heart swell with No, I don’t, but there’s some shit going down, and love, is — I can’t tell you how many gays and there’s trouble in paradise, and those gays better lesbians say, “I came out while watching ‘My Life get it together, or else they’re going to lose their on the D-List.’” Something about that show. I didn’t gig. Listen to Aunt Kathy — once you have a gig, say it was a gay show, because... it’s like my mom you want to parlay that gig into as many seasons and dad were activists in their way without coming as possible. If I was on that show, I’d get along with out and saying it. My mom and dad, they literally everybody and take the check and buy a house. went to gay bars for happy hour, because as my mom would say, “The gay bars had the best free It was recently announced that you’ll be playing appetizers.” They just were always around gay Carnegie Hall again and breaking a significant people, and accepting of gay people. It wasn’t like record in the process. the reality shows today, where people are fighting. For the sixth time. I’m so thrilled.

It was really a comedic reality show. It didn’t hit you over the head with a hammer, but for some reason, What would Joan Rivers say? lots and lots of people have come up to me over Joan would be my biggest supporter because the years, saying, “There was something about the Joan and I were tied for the record of the only humor of that show that made me feel safe enough single female comedian who played Carnegie by to tell my mom or dad that I’m gay.” I think the themselves, five times in a row. I matched Joan’s humor, when couched in a certain way, sometimes record, and now I get to break our record. I miss her it can be humor with a little activism thrown in. every day, and I think of her all the time. I learned Sometimes I write stuff that’s just shallow. so much from her, and trust me, Joan would say that about the “Queer Eye” boys in a heartbeat.

I don’t even mention Trump in my new show. She’d say, “Don’t be ridiculous. Do whatever it Newsflash: I don’t even mention him. It’s not that takes. Get the check, get the money. Screw the I’m scared to, but I made a whole movie about it, ones you don’t like. Who cares? Go have your called “Kathy Griffin: A Hell of a Story.” But I have a friends off set. Who gives a shit? Take the check. great story about going to Paris Hilton’s Christmas Cash the check.” party, so there’s lots of celeb gossip. I have a great story about going on vacation with Sia, where Chris Azzopardi is the Editorial Director of Pride Source everything went wrong. It was like Lucy and Ethel Media Group and Q Syndicate, the national LGBTQ+ take Mexico. I think just getting people to be around wire service. He has interviewed a multitude of one another, because as I get older, it’s funny, my superstars, including Cher, Meryl Streep, Mariah Carey audience has become gay guys, lesbians, straight and Beyoncé. His work has also appeared in The New women, and also, I’m getting more hetero couples. York Times, Vanity Fair, GQ and Billboard. Reach him via They’re a little older, but that’s OK, because I love Twitter @chrisazzopardi.

Six Ex-Wives Spill the Tea

By Matt Bearden Photos: PR

Six started its reign in 2017 by students at Cambridge The wisecracking wordplay within the lyrics and dialogue University. In 2020, it found its way to the U.S., where borders on genius. I mean, pay attention to the opening it premiered on Broadway in February. Due to a hiatus number, “Ex-Wives,” where you get a double meaning at during the pandemic, Six returned in October 2021 to emasculating Henry VIII. “Six” twists the words “history” continue its rise to the top, becoming a huge success. and “his story” as the queens announce they’re taking The musical has won twenty-three awards —claiming two back their fame and glory. The wordplay of Six is on par Tonys, nominated for a Grammy, and several costume with Hamilton. and music awards. With that flash and glamour, here’s the must-know: each number is a banger (even the power The delivery of these lines between the songs textures ballad), the actresses fully embody their characters, and the nuances of this 80-minute musical. You empathize the music provides a “herstory” lesson not often told. It’s with these women. You probably belt out their high notes no wonder this outstanding high-feminist musical has in your car, too. Audiences return to see Six because these characters are authentic and tightly knit together. succeeded as it has.

You root for them!

At its core, this musical teaches its audiences these often-forgotten figures in European history. Yes, HBO’s These ex-wives are highly in tune with their common 2007 The Tudors brought a romanticized (and stupidly denominator. But, even more, they’re in tune with their hot) version of Henry VIII and his wives to the screen. vocal “queeninspirations.” Each queen’s song and However, the difference between The Tudors and Six is personality are inspired by modern-day pop divas: the ex-wives. Six is their chance to spill the tea on Henry Catherine of Aragon: Beyoncé and Shakira; Anne Boleyn: Lily Allen and Avril Lavigne; Jane Seymour: Adele and VIII. And they have lots to say.

Sia; Anna of Cleves: Nicki Minaj and Rihanna; Katherine The six ex-wives of Henry VIII form a girl group in which Howard: Ariana Grande and Britney Spears; Catherin they compete to determine who will be the leader. How Parr: Alicia Keys and Emeli Sandé. Go look these ladies do they do it? They share trauma—but make it a pop up if you don’t know them. song. The ex-wives duke it out by sharing the horrors and absurdity of their marriage to the 16th-century king of And with these queenspirations, their costumes are England. Each number—inspired by famous pop divas— telling. Katherine Howard has that long ponytail Ariana shares with the audience just how terrible of a husband Grande is known for; Anne Boleyn is dressed in dazzling Henry VIII was. But are we even surprised? One after the green; Anna of Cleves gives a hint of Lady Gaga at the other, the ex-wives share their devotion to him, their role Superbowl; Catherine Parr is the only queen in pants and as a woman in court, their no-choice-in-the-matter, and traditional-inspired puffed sleeves, a nice blend of her feminism and devotion to court. The show has won three their own personal losses.

Best Costume awards in the last two years because of When I say the actresses embody their characters, I these brilliant choices. really mean they become that queen. Have you been to a theater and felt the acting was stiff or unbelievable? What does it all amount to anyway? Why should you go Yes, no, maybe? When you see Six, you’ll agree these see the musical? Because it’s fantastic. Simply. Small actresses have become their characters. In between stage, entire female cast, brilliant costumes, and bangers numbers, the dialogue and banter between them is for 80 minutes. If you missed seeing Six in Atlanta, fresh and modern, but they don’t take their eye off the check their website, sixonbroadway.com. Some major prize: the group leader. Anne Boleyn never misses a beat cities they’re hitting next are Cincinnati, Chicago, D.C., to remind her sister-wives that she’s beheaded; Jane and Boston. For you travel and corporate gays, get your Seymour constantly mentions her son grew up without a tickets! mother; Catherine Parr dubs the contest an exploitation Broadway has brought dozens of fantastic shows to of their traumas to one-up each other. the Fox Theater. Six is something special. Listen to the album, buy your tickets, and go learn some herstory.

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