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maswavlebloba erT-erTi sapasuxismgeblo profesiaa, radgan maT momavali Taobebis aRzrda da kargi ganaTlebis micema evalebaT. sagakveTilo procesi saintereso unda iyos, xeli Seuwyos moswavlis damoukidebel azrovnebasa da sxvadasxva unar-Cvevebis ganviTarebas. Tbilisis N126-e sajaro skolis pedagogi naTia uCava ramdenime welia skolaSi aswavlis. is dawyebiTi safexuris maswavlebelia, man bakalavris xarisxi soxumis saxelmwifo universitetSi daicva. magistris xarisxi ki ilias saxelmwifo universitetSimieniWa. naTia uCava ramdenime statiis Tanaavtori gaxlavT. aseve, 2022 wels „bakur sulakauris gamomcemlobam“ saukeTeso maswavleblad daasaxela. 2024 wels ki „maswavleblis erovnuli jildos“ mflobeli gaxda. mis saqmianobaSi didi adgili araformalur ganaTlebas uWiravs da xSirad gakveTils Ria sivrceSi atarebs,
rac sagakveTilo process ufro sainteresosa da SemoqmedebiTs xdis. gTavazobT intervius pedagog naTia uCavasTan.
araa. is Zalian bevr Zalisxmevas, Sromasa da moTminebas saWiroebs. mudmivad unda viTardebode da gamowvevebisTvis mzad iyo.
_ratom airCieT maswavleblis profesia? _maswavleblis profesia mravalferovani, SemoqmedebiTi,emociebiT datvirTuli da sainteresoa. _aris
Tu ara maswavlebloba advili?
_maswavlebloba advili profesia namdvilad
Zalian unda giyvardes Seni saqme, rom SeZlo sirTuleebis gadalaxva. _mogviyeviT, rogor iwyeba da mTavrdeba erTi dRe skolaSi? _meore dRisTvis ZiriTadad Rame vemzadebi. vamzadeb resursebs, vgegmav gakveTils. sanam bavSvebi movlen, oTaxs gakveTilis Sesabamisad vawyob. Semdeg saswavlo procesi iwyeba. xSirad daugegmavi da spontanuri gadawyvetilebis miReba miwevs, radgan swavla-swavleba cocxali saqmianobaa da ra saWiroebac wamoiWreba, maswavlebeli
mzad unda daxvdes. gakveTilebis dasrulebis Semdeg bavSvebi mSoblebTan gamyavs. mokled vajameb yvelafers da mniSvnelovan sakiTxebs vacnob. dRis ganmavlobaSi kolegebi erTmaneTs gamocdilebas vuziarebT. skolidan saxlamde da saxlSi yofnisas moswavleebsa da axal ideebze fiqrs ver vwyvet. maswavleblebs es profesia Sesisxlxorcebuli gvaqvs. _„maswavleblis erovnulma jildom“ ra warmateba mogitanaT Tqven da skolas? _„maswavleblis erovnuli jildos“ mflobels skolisTvis Zalian bevri benefiti aqvs. pirvel rigSi, yvelgan saswavlo dawesebulebis saxeli ismis, ufro cnobadi xdeba. rac Zalian mniSvnelovania. skolis prestiJi amiT ufro maRldeba. aseve, sasixaruloa mxardamWerebis mier gadmocemuli prizebi, magaliTad, „bakur sulakaurisgamomcemlobis“ mier dawesebuli Cemi saxelobis
wignis Taro. is skolaSi Tavsdeba da masze dalagebuli wignebiT sargebloba skolis yvela moswavles SeuZlia. mniSvnelovania is SemoTavazebebi, rasac jildos mflobel maswavlebels sTavazoben, romelsac Semdeg moswavleebTan iyenebs da saSualebas aZlevs ufasod miiRos garkveuli servisebi da a.S. _gakveTilze ra meTodebs iyenebT? _sxvadasxva meTodebs viyeneb, raTa bavSvebi CarTuli da motivirebuli iyvnen: TamaSebs, jgufur aqtivobebsa da diskusiebs vawyob, rac bavSvebs axali codnis gamoyenebaSi exmarebaT. vizualuri masalebi, romelTac xSirad Tavad vqmni da proeqtze dafuZnebuli swavleba process amartivebs.
bavSvebs konkretul Temebze samuSaos vaZlev, rac maT kritikul da SemoqmedebiT azrovnebas aZlierebs. xels uwyobs gundurad muSaobis unar-Cvevebis
CamovuyalibebT prezentabelurobas. _pandemiis periodSi SeqmeniT jgufi „aqtivobebi klasSi,“ gviambeT am jgufis Sesaxeb.
Camoyalibebas. vaswavli bavSvebs, rogor gaaziaron informacia da gamoxaton TavianTi azri klasis winaSe. Zalian mniSvnelovania, Tu dawyebiT etapze moswavles
_vfiqrob, socialur qselSi yvelaze didi, aqtiuri da mravalferovani jgufia. dReisaTvis 96 aTasze meti wevria. jgufi CemTvis eleqtronuli biblioTekis bankia, rac maswavleblebs exmarebaT gakveTilebi mravalferovani, saintereso resursebiTa da naklebi ZalisxmeviT dagegmon. jgufSi kolegebi uziareben erTmaneTs sakuTar gamocdilebas, rCevebs, rac TanamSromlobis idealuri magaliTia. _ramdenad efeqturia Ria sivrceSi gakveTilis Catareba?
_Ria sivrceSi gakveTilebis Catareba CemTvis erT-erTi yvelaze sasiamovno procesia. moswavleebs Zalian moswonT da exalisebaT. xSirad vatareb saskolo moedanze xelovnebis gakveTils. pledebiT moswavleebi wamowolilni arian da sxvadasxva Temaze qmnian namuSevrebs. skolis ezoSi vawyob maTematikur TamaSebs, moswavleebi Ria sivrceSi eZeben pasuxebs da msgavs aqtivobebs. vfiqrob, yvelaze metad aseTi gakveTilebi amaxsovrdebaT. _aris Tu ara moTxovnadi profesia pedagogoba? _axali kadrebis Semodineba Zalian mniSvnelovania. kvlevebi adasturebs, rom sistemaSi umravlesoba saSualo an ufrosi asakis maswavleblebi arian. imisaTvis, rom skola axalgazrda kadrebiT Seivsos, saWiroa profesiis popularizacia. _rom ara pedagogi, romel profesias airCevdiT? _rom ara maswavlebeli, viqnebodi Jurnalisti.
bavSvobaSi
Teatri misTvis jadosnuri samyaro iyo, Tumca ocnebas miaxloebis nacvlad CamoSorda. 2003 wels vardebis revoluciis periodSi mouwia swavla, Semdeg reorganizacia daiwyo da masTan erTad 150 msaxiobma daamTavra Teatraluri universiteti, TeatrSi sruli qaosi sufevda, saqmis mimarT araseriozuli damokidebuleba igrZnoboda, es iyo mizezi, ramac profesiisadmi siyvaruli daukarga. Teatraluri institutis dasrulebis Semdeg Tavisufal TeatrSi iTamaSa, speqtaklebSi: „RmerTo, dagvifare Cven da adamianebi” da „idiotokratia“. raRac periodi Sesveneba hqonda. TurmaniSvilis TeatrSi dabrunebis Semdeg ki msaxiob da mweral lali kekeliZesTan muSaobda. rogorc Tavad ekaterine gviyveba, man sul sxvanairad daanaxa profesia. ekaterine demetraZes vaso aba-
SiZis saxelobis
axal TeatrSi, Tavisufal TeatrSi, mixeil TumaniSvilis saxelobis kinomsaxiobTa Teatrisa da axmetelis Teatris scenebze uTamaSia. man aseve mayurebels Tavi damoukidebeli proeqtebiTa da kinorolebiT daamaxsovra. msaxiobi ramdenime teleserialSic monawileobs, esenia: „Sua qalaqSi“, „xelovnur sunTqva,“ „gogona gareubnidan,“ „deteqtivebi,“ „Jami yvavilobisa“ da „the mask”.
_ rogori iyo Tqveni pirveli nabijebi TeatrSi? _ sul pirveli nabijebi TurmaniSvilis TeatrSi gadavdgi. vswavlobdi gogi margvelaSvilTan, im dros is „alublis
baRs“ aseve „romeo da julietas“ dgamda. ramdenime studenti wagviyvana da viyaviT egreT wodebul masobriv scenebSi, sityvac ki ar gvqonda saTqmeli, ZiriTadad rekvizits gadavaadgilebdiT, magram mainc Zalian mniSvnelovani gamocdileba iyo. mgoni mesame kursze viyavi da uceb aRmovCndi profesional msaxiobebTan erTad. maxsovs, Zalian vnerviulobdiT me da Cemi jgufelebi. speqtakli rom iwyeboda, kulisebSi videqiT da xelixelCakidebulni „mamao Cvenos“ vambobdiT. eg iyo uSualod marTla pirveli nabijebi. _giTamaSiaT iseTi personaJi, romelmac gadamwyveti roli Seasrula Tqvens cxovrebaSi? _mixeil marmarinosisTan. me vambobdi rom, es Cemi ocnebis
reJisoria, Tanamedrove geniosi. msoflioSia cnobili da gamimarTla, rom mis speqtaklSi „romeo da julieta, mesame mexsiereba” aRmovCndi. Tan me da daTa TavaZe, viyaviT reJisoris asistentebi. Tarjimani viyavi da Tan speqtaklSi vTamaSobdi. egec udidesi gamocdileba iyo, aman radikalurad Secvala Cemi cxovreba. realurad SeiZleba iTqvas, lali kekeliZesTan gaviare pirveli kursi, xolo ras niSnavs iyo msaxiobi mixeil marmarinosisTan viswavle. rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania, Tavdajereba gamiCina am kacma, Zalian damexmara, rom Semecvala warmodgenebi sakuTar SesaZleblobebze. man damajera, rom yvela adamians yvelaferi SeuZlia. Tu moindomeb, bevrs iSromeb, Tu Tvalebs ar daxuWav, yve-
laferi gamogiva! milioni patara detalia, magram mixeil marmarinosis am speqtaklze muSaobam marTla radikalurad Secvala Cemi cxovreba. am speqtaklze iyo mosuli qeTi devdariani, „Cemi colis daqalebis“ scenaris avtori. moewona Cemi Sesruleba da aqedan aRmovCndi serialSi. yvelaferi ase gadabmulia, erTi grZeli jaWvia, TiTo adamianma da TiTo proeqtma gansazRvra TiTqos Cemi karieruli winsvlaca da ganviTarebac. _ TqvenTvis kinosa da Teatrs Soris mTavari gansxvaveba ra aris? _erTi sferos ori sxvadasxva samyaroa msaxiobisTvis orive Zalian mniSvnelovania, Teatri gexmareba fantaziis usazRvrod gazrdasa da siTamameSi, rac msaxiobisTvis aucilebelia. udidesi gansxvaveba is aris, rom Teatri cocxali procesia da yovel jerze speqtakli sxvadasxvanairia. TeatrSi rom dgaxar scenaze, mayurebeli Sors zis, man unda dainaxos, gaigonos da igrZnos yvelaferi, Sesabamisad, TamaSis
xerxi bevrad Tamamia da TiTqos bevrad ufro gamomsaxvelobiTia, vidre kameris win. kinoSi Zalian axlos aris kadri da aTasobiT mayurebeli, romelTac Sen ver xedav, TiToeuli mimikas akvirdeba. raRacnairad unda daabalanso, rom gamomxatveloba saerTod ar dagekargos. TeatrSic Zalian mniSvnelovania balansi, raRacebi siyalbeSi rom ar gadavides, didi mniSvneloba aqvs rogor xasiaTzea Seni partniori scenaze da rogor xar Sen TviTon. scenaze yovel jerze ibadeba raRac axali, es, erTi mxriv, Zalian rTulia da cota saSiSic, magram, meore mxriv, es aris yvelaze didi siamovneba da jadoqroba, yovel jerze Tavidan geZleva Sansi mosinjo raRac axali. _ profesiuli da piradi gamocdilebidan ra axdens gavlenas Tqvens personaJebs da rolebze? _Zalian bevrs vfiqrob. muSaobis processa da yoveldRiurobaSic personaJs warmovidgen, es yvelaferi jer gonebaSi Cndeba. Tu gmiris 100 procentiT ar
gesmis, ar amarTleb da zustad ar ici, ase ratom iqceva, Seni Sesruleba damajerebeli ar iqneba.
vis, rom bevri Zalian saintereso roli vakeTo da bevr proeqtze vimuSao, magaliTi mivce axalgazrda
_rogorc msaxiobisTvis ra aris Tqveni mTavari mizani Semdegi wlebis ganmavlobaSi?
_Zalian mniSvnelovani kiTxvaa, axla davfiqrdi, rom minda sxva qveynebSic viTamaSo TeatrSi, ucxoel reJisorebTanac, saerTaSoriso bazarzec gavide.
Zalian bevria niWieri da profesionali axalgazrda, Cemi Taobisac da Cemze didebic arian da maT SesaZlebloba ar eZlevaT, rom raRacebi akeTon saxelmwifo TeatrebSi.
_ra aris is mTavari Rirebuleba, romelsac msaxiobi unda inarCunebdes, miuxedavad karieruli warmatebisa?
_CemTvis warmatebaa SesaZleblobebi imisT-
Taobas, davexmaro maT Cemi gamocdilebiT.
_Tqveni azriT, ra nabijebi unda gadaidgas Teatralur sferoSi, raTa gaumjobesdes SemoqmedebiTi Tavisufleba da inovaciuri midgomebi dainergos Tanamedrove qarTul TeatrSi?
_realurad saxelmwifoSi aris problema. aramarto kulturis sferoSi, TiTqmis yvelgan erTi da igive problemaa, Sesabamisad, bevri rame aris sxva doneze Sesacvleli, Tumca imisaTvis, rom sanam iq rame Seicvleba, aq ar mokvdes es yvelaferi, Cven ubralod ar unda gavCerdeT, ar unda SegveSindes, bolomde unda vibrZoloT.
maria taliaSvili
qarTuli Teatrisa da kinos msaxiobi, zviad doliZe farTo auditoriam „tiflisSi“ ivane orbelianis roliT gaicno. misi kariera rusTavis saxelmwifo TeatrSi daiwyo. mis xmas sxvadasxva filmebsa da serialebSi advilad vicnobT. zviad doliZe rusTavis Teatris xelmZRvaneli da saingilos Teatris direqtoris moadgiledac muSaobda. msaxiobma unikaluri tembris, Sromismoyvareobisa da gansakuTrebuli profesionalizmis wyalobiT, miuxedavad imisa, rom „tiflissa“ da „CcdSi“ uaryofiT personaJebs ganasaxierebda, mayureblis simpaTia daimsaxura. zviad doliZe karieraze, ocnebebze, ganvlil cxovrebasa da miRebul gamocdilebaze gvesaubra. _romelia Tqveni favoriti roli? _napoleon WinWeliSvili, speqtaklSi „kargi qaliSvilebi“, romelic gogi qavTaraZem dadga CemTvis
gansakuTrebulia, radgan pirveli roli iyo. man or yvelaze mniSvnelovan adamians: gogi qavTaraZesa da Cems jgufel giga dunduas Semaxvedra. amJamad orive gardacvlilia. gamovarCevdi kidev erTs, hercog qules, speqtaklSi „brZola taxtisaTvis“. _ramdenad didi gavlena iqonia pirvelma rolma Tqvens warmatebaze? _popularoba momitana, magram Cemi karieris ganviTarebaze didad ar umoqmedia. ver vityvi, rom am rolis gamo warmatebuli var. es ar aris Tavmdabloba, es metis survilia. Cemi SesaZleblobebis 10% maqvs gamoyenebuli. miuxedavad amisa, is grZnoba, romelic scenaze dgomis dros dameufla, dRemde Tan momyveba. _ra meTodebi gexmarebaT rolisTvis mosamzadeblad?
_Tavisufali dro da fiqri. informaciis moZieba im rolze, romelzec konkretulad muSaob. aseve, im reJisorebsa da part-
niorebTan urTierToba, romlebsac vendobi. rac ufro met informacias moagroveb sakuTari rolis Sesaxeb, gacilebiT ufro karg Sedegs miiReb. mTavaria, mayurebels aCveno, rom Tavdajerebuli xar. _rogori iyo Tqveni gamocdileba serial „CcdSi“? _Cemi colis daqalebi iyo bolo proeqti, romelzec
vimuSave. vako pakelianis rolmac, Cemda gasakvirad, didi gamocdileba SemZina. mimaxvedra, rom uaryofiTi personaJis gansaxiereba mayureblis damokidebulebaze ar moqmedebs. vfiqrob, rom msaxiobi yvelanairi, rogorc umniSvnelo, aseve mniSvnelovani rolisgan, gamocdilebas iRebs.
_romel reJisorTan imuSavebdiT?
_oTar ioselianTan da kidev erTxel gogi qavTaraZesTan viTanamSromlebdi. gogi aramarto reJisoria, aramed pirovneba, romelmac aqamde momiyvana. axalgazrdebis namuSevrebSic miviRebdi monawileobas. CemTvis maTTan urTierToba sainteresoa, isini gacilebiT metad niWierebi arian, vidre me. aqedan gamomdinare, CemTvis prioritetulia, rom maT davewio.
_rodis daiwyeT filmebis gaxmovaneba?
_filmebi Tavdapirvelad 2000 wels gavaxmovane, intensiuri muSaoba 2003 wels daviwye, xolo
leqsebis kiTxva _ 1998-1999 wlidan. mxatvrul kiTxvas guram saRaraZe,
_interesi ufro meti vigrZeni, vidre _ SiSi da pasuxismgebloba.
zina kverenCxilaZe, ramaz ioseliani, leila kapanaZe da qeTi abulaZe maswavlidnen. aqedan gamomdinare, Tamamad SemiZlia vTqva, rom intensiuri gaxmovanebis 23 wliani staJi maqvs. _ra grZnoba dageuflaT, rodesac pirvelad moxvdiT xmisCamwer studiaSi?
pirveli xmisCamweri studia „sapatriarqos radiosi“ iyo. saxarebidan erTi patara Tavi Cavwere. CemTvis imdenad moulodneli aRmoCnda msmenelTan pirdapir kontaqtze gasvla, rom gamudmebiT imaze vfiqrobdi, rame ar SemSloda. _rogoria erTi Cveulebrivi dRe xmisCamwer studiaSi?
_TiTqmis yoveli dRe datvirTuli da erTferovania, ubralod masalebia sxvadasxva. dilis aTi saaTidan saRamos Svid saaTamde partniorTan erTad aucileblad 5-6 seria mainc unda Cavwero. ra Tqma unda, Turquli serialis gaxmovanebas kargi, Rirebuli filmisa mirCevnia, magram ufro xSirad
Turqul serialebze muSaoba miwevs. _romel istoriul personaJs gaaxmovanebdiT? _arasdros myolia favoriti. erT-erT filmSi ieso gavaxmovane da mgoni, amiT ukve yvelaferi naTqvamia. rac Seexeba TamaSs, erT konkretuls ver davasaxeleb. uamravi personaJia, romelic am asakamde ar miTamaSia da imeds vitoveb, rom momavalSi SevZleb. _rogor
fiqrobT, Tqveni, rogorc msaxiobis, saqmianoba axdens gavlenas Tqvens auditoriaze? _darwmunebuli var, raRac doziT ki. Tqven Cemgan intervius iRebT, anu Tqvenze Cemma saqmianobam gavlena iqonia. mayurebels bodiSs vuxdi, Tu raime didi molodini hqondaT da imedebi gavucrue. me Cems profesiaSi Tavs ar vzogav. ubralod konkretul mocemulobasa da situaciaSi es aris maqsimumi, rasac xedaven. madloba, rom miyureben da mgulSematkivroben.
salome Coxeli da TaTia xaxutaSvili
nikoloz sabaSvils Tavdapirvelad TeatrTan msaxioboba akavSirebda. 2002 wels eqvTime TayaiSvilis saxelobis kulturis saxelmwifo universitetis, kinosa da dramis fakultetze Caabara. sxvadasxva TeatrSi mravali roli aqvs gansaxierebuli, maT Soris: fsiqiatris personaJi, giorgi qorqaSvilis reJisorobiT, speqtaklSi „mravalwertili“, Teatr ,,Zvel
saxlSi”; jambazis roli „saaxalwlo zRaparSi“, ramaz ioselianis reJisorobiT griboedovis TeatrSi. aRsaniSnavia, misi sadiplomo namuSevari _ voicekis roli amave saxelwodebis speqtaklSi soso nemsaZis reJisorobiT. Semdeg reJisorobiT dainteresda. pirveli nabijebi sakmaod rTuli aRmoCnda, Tumca dabrkolebebma Teatralur
samyaroSi srulyofilad damkvidrebis survili, kidev ufro gauZliera. nikoloz sabaSvils warmatebiT aqvs dadgmuli speqtaklebi: „maugli“, „Svlis nukris naambobi“, „iavnanam ra hqmna?!“, „me bebia iliko da ilarioni“, „wiTelquda“, „jer daixocnen mere iqorwines“ da sxva. damsaxurebulad aris „Teatris moRvaweTa kavSiris“ premiis, Teatraluri premia „duru-
jis“, saerTaSoriso titulebisa da mravali jildos mflobeli. Tumca CamoTvlili damsaxurebebisa da jildoebis miuxedavad, nikoloz sabaSvili Tvlis, rom misi udidesi miRweva ojaxi da Svilebia. respondentis TqmiT, profesional reJisors kvlevis, Ziebisa da moTminebis unari unda hqondes. misTvis kritika sruliad misaRebia, Tu is argumentirebuli da jansaRia. dRes nikoloz sabaSvili saqarTvelos Tojinebis profesiuli saxelmwifo Teatrebis gaerTianebis xelmZRvanelia. is qveynis Tojinebis Teatris ganviTarebasa da mis sazRvargareT popularizaciaze aqtiurad muSaobs. reJisoris mTavari mizani bavSvebis TeatriT dainteresebaa. swored es idea aZlevs respondents motivacias sakuTar saqmianobaSi, ris aRsrulebasac didi SromiT cdilobs. amis na-
Teli magaliTi Tojinebis TeatrSi misi moRvaweobaa. respondenti Tojinebis Teatris jadosnur samyaroze gvesaubra. interviuSi is sakuTar Semoqmedebasa da gavlil gzas gviziarebs.
erili piesa „qvabSi“ iyo. romelSic tkbili, mware da mJave gemoebi erTmaneTs ebrZvian. isini am konfliqts ewirebian, ris gamoc kerZi mlaSdeba. _ra rols asrulebs Teatri adamianis cxovrebaSi?
_saidan iwyeba Tqveni da Teatris istoria?
_Teatraluri institutis damTavrebis Semdeg cota xani Teatr „metexSi“ msaxiobad vmuSaobdi. maleve wamovedi da megobrebTan erTad Sevqmeni „axali Teatri“. Tavdapirvelad sirTuleebs wavawydiT, pirvel speqtaklze muSaoba daviwyeT da premieris win Teatri daiwva. Semdeg mis aRsadgenad ramdenime weli dagvWirda. _romeli iyo pirveli speqtakli Tqveni reJisorobiT? _pirveli speqtakli Cemi daw-
_TeatrSi adamiani fiqrs, sakuTari Tavis realizebas iwyebs, paralelebs avlebs da uamravi aRmoCenis momswre xdeba. _rogor unda davainteresoT bavSvebi da axalgazrdebi TeatriT? _mxolod da mxolod xarisxiani produqtiT. Cven maT fexi unda avuwyoT da saintereso, asakisTvis sworad SerCeuli speqtaklebi SevTavazoT. TeatrSi mosulma bavSvma siamovneba unda miiRos, dafiqrdes, dainteresdes da survili gauCndes, rom kidev movides. aseve mniSvnelova-
nia, rom mSoblebma yuradReba miaqcion afiSas, romelSic gansazRvrulia konkretuli speqtakli romeli asakis mayureblisTvis aris gaTvlili. bavSvi ar unda miviyvanoT iseT speqtaklze, romelic misi asakisTvis Seuferebelia. mcirewlovnebisTvis Seusabamo speqtakli gaugebari iqneba. es yvelaferi unda gaviTvaliswinoT, radgan Teatrs bavSvis aRzrdaSi Zalian didi roli aqvs. _Tqveni reJisorobiT rusTavelis Teatris scenaze mayurebelma ixila „jadosnuri ekrani _ ambavi qarTuli animaciidan“. mogviyeviT proeqtis Sesaxeb. _vecadeT, rom feradi da nostalgiuri namuSevari Segveqmna, romlis mTavari amocana aris is, rom bavSvebi qarTul multiplikacias daubrundnen.
rodesac jadosnur ekranebTan visxediT. aseve am proeqtiT gvindoda pativi migvego im adamianebisTvis, vinc didi Sroma Cado am sferoSi, Seqmna da ganaviTara qarTuli fasdaudebeli multiplikacia. _rogor ganviTarda Tojinebis Teatri Tqveni xelmZRvanelobis pirvelidRidandRemde? _ramdenime wlis win gamocxadda konkursi, romelSic monawileoba miviRe da Tojinebis Teatris samxatvro xelmZRvaneli gavxdi. Tavidan rTuli periodi iyo, radgan Tojinebis Teatrs sakuTari Senoba da finansebi ar gaaCnda. didi Sromis Sedegad es problemebi movagvareT. Semdeg saqarTvelos Tojinebis saxelmwifo Teatrebi gaerTianda da ukve ramdenime welia am gaerTianebas vxelmZRvanelob,
ufrosebs ki gavaxseneT is periodi,
rac bevrad met Sromasa da pasux-
ismgeblobas moiTxovs. dRes Tojinebis Teatrebis mimarT interesi gacilebiT maRalia aramxolod TbilisSi, aramed mTlianad saqarTveloSi. gaerTianebis farglebSi qveynis Tojinebis Teatrebis yvela Senobas reabilitacia Cautarda. proeqtebi rogorc saqarTveloSi, aseve mis farglebs gareT xorcieldeba. monawileoba miviReT poloneTis festivalSi da granpric CamovitaneT, speqtaklisTvis „saqarTvelo“. aseve, granpri aviReT yazaxeTSi speqtakliT „max-
inji ixvis Wuki“. msaxiobebis kvalifikaciis amaRlebis mizniT treningebi da masterklasebi daviwyeT. yvela TeatrSi, romelic gaerTianebaSi Sedis axalgazrda reJisorebs saSualeba miecaT emuSavaT da speqtaklebi daedgaT. _ras gegmavT samomavlod? _gegmebi uamravia, uaxloes momavalSi quTaisis Teatri safrangeTSi, levilis qarTul festivalSi miiRebs monawileobas. aseve ramdenime premiera Tbilissa da regionebSi gvaqvs dagegmili. _ras urCevT
maT, visac unda sakuTari cxovreba Teatrs daukavSiros? _Teatri mZime Sromas moiTxovs, Tumca udidesi bednierebiT gvajildoebs, rasac SemoqmedebiTi procesi hqvia. Teatri siyvaruli da Tavdadebaa. Teatral-
ur samyaroSi konfliqtebis ar unda SegveSindes, radgan Teatri Tavad aris konfliqti. visac surs cxovreba Teatrs daukavSiros vurCev, rom bevri speqtakli naxos. paata mesxi
misi pirveli nabijebi speqtakl „instinqtSi“ gadadga. dRes ki saqarTveloSi erT-erTi yvelaze cnobili da warmatebuli msaxiobia. maka Zagania farTo auditoriam gaicno, rogorc Tina, serialidan „Cemi colis daqalebi“. man roli brwyinvaled Seasrula, personaJis mtkice xasiaTi ostaturad gadmogvca, ramac msaxiobis profesionalizmSi dagvarwmuna. garda amisa, mas araerT cnobil filmsa Tu speqtaklSi miuRia monawileoba, maT Soris: „ambavi“, „reversi“, „Cemi colis daqalis qorwili“ da sxva. rogor miaRwia popularobasa da ra sirTuleebs waawyda am gzaze, in-
terviuSi gviyveba. _rodis daiwyo Tqveni samsaxiobo kariera? _rodesac Teatraluri universiteti davamTavre, speqtakl „instinqts“ dgamdnen. nanka kalatoziSvilma garkveuli mizezis gamo monawileobis miReba ver moaxerxa da mis magivrad TamaSi me SemomTavazes, razec sixaruliT davTanxmdi. amis Semdeg sxvadasxva speqtaklSi viTamaSe, Tumca karieris pirvel periodSi Cemi rolebis umravlesoba meorexarisxovani iyo. _msaxioboba bavSvobidanve gainteresebdaT? _bavSvobaSi ar vfiqrobdi msaxiobobaze, radgan Cemi gataceba bale-
ti iyo. qoreografiul saswavlebelSi davdiodi da vocnebobdi, rom warmatebuli balerina gavmxdariyavi. _rodis mixvdiT, rom msaxioboba is profesia iyo, romelsac cxovrebis bolomde gahyvebodiT? _rodesac
qoreografiuli saswavlebeli davamTavre, vfiqrobdi, rom balets momavalSi ganviTarebis didi perspeqtiva ar eqneboda. aqedan gamomdinare, masTan yvelaze axlo profesia, msaxioboba avirCie, romelic scenasTan, mayurebelsa da
popularobasTan aris dakavSirebuli. rogorc ki scenaze davdeqi, iseTi SegrZneba dameufla, TiTqos CemSi sakuTari Tavis axali versia daibada. mivxvdi, rom msaxioboba swored is profesia iyo, romelsac bolomde gavyvebodi. _gaixseneT pirvel speqtaklTan dakavSirebuli SegrZnebebi. _pirveli speqtakli „instinqti“ iyo. dRemde maxsovs, scenaze gasvlis win rogor vnerviulobdi. vSiSobdi, rom naklebad damajerebeli viqnebodi. rodesac farTo auditoriis winaSe pirvelad gadixar, nerviulobis ukana planze gadaweva giwevs, rom roli uSecdomod Seasrulo. es sakmaod rTuli procesia. dRemde, yoveli speqtaklis win vRelav da mayureblis winaSe did pasuxismgeblobas vgrZnob. _rogor moxvdiT serial „Cemi colis daqalebSi“? _rodesac gavige, rom Tinas rolze kastingi tardeboda, gadavwyvite, mivsuliyavi. am personaJisTvis saWiro atributi saTvale iyo. rogorc ki is
movirge, feministi qalis xasiaTi maSinve idealurad SeviTavse. vfiqrob, am saTvales mniSvnelovani wvlili miuZRvis rolze damtkicebaSi. _avlebT
Tu ara raime paralels Tqvensa da Tinas Soris?
fesiis mimarT. _Cemi ufrosi Svili TiTqmis gadasaReb moedansa da TeatrSi gaizarda. nel-nela vamCnevdi, rogor uRrmavdeboda interesi am sferos mimarT. misi siyvaruli Teatrisa da kinosadmi dRemde grZeldeba.
_Tinas da me bevri saerTo gvaqvs. Tumca aris gansxvavebebic. es personaJi zedmetad xistia sayvareli adamianebis mimarT. Tina zogierT scenaSi zRvars scdeba da Tavisi pirdapirobiT axloblebs guls stkens. es Tviseba Cemgan Sorsaa, Sesabamisad, am sakiTxSi erTmaneTisgan kategoriulad ganvsxvavdebiT. _gagviziareT Svilebis damokidebuleba Tqveni pro-
rodesac televizorSi daminaxavs an sruliad ucxo adamianebisgan dedaze kompliments moismens, es siamayiT avsebs. rac Seexeba umcros Svils, mas Cemi saqmianobis mimarT naklebi interesi aqvs. _motivacias giqrobT is faqti, rom saqarTveloSi msaxioboba daufasebeli profesiaa? _dRes msaxiobs saqarTveloSi Zalian uWirs. wlebis gamocdilebasTan erTad mivxvdi, rom sxva
qveyanaSi Sroma ufro damifasdeboda da finansuradac myarad viqnebodi. samwuxaro realobaa, rom msaxiobebi anazRaurebis simciris gamo piradi survilebis dakmayofilebas ver axerxeben. guldasawyvetia, rodesac saqmeSi sulsa da guls deb da materialuri kuTxiT ukukavSiri, faqtobrivad, ar arsebobs. _axla, rom Tavidan irCevdeT profesias, isev msaxiobi gaxdebodiT? _isev am profesias avirCevdi, radgan didia Cemi siyvaruli scenisa da mayureblis mimarT. speqtaklis dasrulebis Semdeg, auditoriis mxurvale taSi da mokaSkaSe Tvalebi imdenad Zvirfasia, rom sxva sferoSi Cems Tavs ver vxedav. _rogor umklavdebiT kritikas? _kritikis mimarT mimRebloba yovelTvis mqonda da maqvs, magram Tu es kritika arajansaR saxes iRebs, yovlad miuRebelia. yvela adamians gansxvavebuli Sexedulebebi aqvs. SeiZleba zogs moswondes Cemi samsaxiobo niWi, zogi ki sulac ar fiqrobdes imaves. amaSi
cuds verafers vxedav, Tumca, rodesac niWis magivrad Cems vizualur mxares afaseben, ra Tqma unda, gulsatkenia. rogor idealuradac unda Seasrulo Seni saqme, yovelTvis iarsebeben iseTi adamianebi, romlebic nega tiviT agavseben, radgan isini swored
amiT ikvebebian. _ra aris
Tqveni mTavari mizani? _Cemi cx ovrebis mTavari mizania, rac SeiZleba met serialsa da filmSi viTamaSo. msurs, erTmaneTisgan radikalurad gansxvavebuli personaJebi ganvasaxiero. karg msaxiobs
sxvadasxva xasiaTis morgebis unari unda hqondes, maT Soris iseTebis, romlebic mis Sinagan mes ewinaaRmdegeba. _gqoniaT
Tu ara rTuli periodi karieraSi? _rTuli pe riodi araerTxel mqonia. bevrjer gamCenia kiTxvebi, Tu ratom aris aseTi daundobeli es profesia an ratom aris saqarTveloSi aseTi damokidebuleba msaxiobobis mimarT. Tumca, Cemi miznebi da saqmianobisadmi siyvaruli yovelTvis maxsovda. swored aman momca Zala, gavmxdariyavi is, vinc dRes var. _ras urCevT momaval msaxiobebs? _visac nam-
dvilad surs, rom warmatebuli msaxiobi gaxdes, gaazrebuli unda hqondes, Tu ramxela Sromasa da mondomebas moiTxovs es profesia. dauRalavi muSaobis gareSe srulyofil msaxiobad ver Camoyalibdebi. momaval artistebs vurCev, araerTi imedgacruebisTvis moemzadon, magram axsovdeT, rom yvela sirTulis ukan xalxis uangaro siyvaruli dgas, romelic yvela uaryofiT mxares gadawoni.
„nu moklav jafaras“ 1960 wlis 11 ivliss gamoica. romanma avtors udidesi warmateba moutana, man 1961 wels „puliceris premia“ miiRo da Tanamedrove amerikuli literaturis klasikad iqca. miuxedavad imisa, rom harper lis mxolod erTi wigni,
„nu moklav jafaras“ hqonda gamoqveynebuli, 2007 wlis 5 noembers literaturis ganviTarebaSi Setanili wvlilisTvis „Tavisuflebis saprezidento medliT“ daajildoves. 1962 wels amerikelma reJisorma, robert maliganma wignis
mixedviT filmi gadaiRo, romelSic atikus finCis roli gregori pekma iTamaSa. suraTma wigns – popularoba, msaxiobs ki „oskari“ moutana. swored misi daxmarebiT gaicno nawarmoebi maSindelma msofliom, maT Soris, sabWoTa mayurebelmac. wignSi aRwer-
ili ambavi klasikuri romania. samxreTuli sazogadoebis, cxovrebis stilis, sazogadoebis mowyobis, naTesavur-Temobriv-mezobluri kavSirebis gadmocemis TvalsazrisiT. personaJebi avtorma sakuTari mogonebebidan gaacocxla.
siuJeti aSS-is patara samxreTul qalaq meikomSi viTardeba, sadac adamianebi siRatakesa da sasowarkveTilebaSi cxovroben, moukirwylav da wvimis dros „mowiTalod datboril“ quCebSi Tavis gadarCenas cdiloben. wignSi movlenebi 6 wlis jin luizas, misi ufrosi Zmis, jemisa (romelic xSirad gansazRvravs Txrobis mimarTulebas) da martoxela mamis, atikusis garSemo, didi depresiis periodSi viTardeba. avtori istorias 6 wlis gogonas piriT gviam-
bobs, rac yvela im usamarTlobis, Secdomisa Tu gulgrilobis mimarT, romelsac kiTxvis dros waawydebiT, ufro metad mgrZnobiared gangawyobT. wignis yvela personaJi Zalian saxasiaToa. isini
TavianTi TvisebebiT erTmaneTs abalanseben da saTqmels sainteresod gadmoscemen. mindoda, wera mTavari gmiriT damewyo, Tumca mivxvdi, rom TiTqmis yvela personaJi Tanabrad mniSvnelovania. luiza finCs konkretul adamianebze ecvleba warmodgena. am romanSi mZafrad Cans usamarTloba. gogona, misi Zma da maTi mezobeli dili, romelic misisipiSi cxovrobs, zafxuls erTad atareben, isinic uCivian skolas, sruliad normaluri, bavSvuri cxovrebiT cxovroben. eqvsi wlis gogonaze gavlenas axdens is, rac esmis da rasac xedavs. jin luiza „Wyita“ finCi, sazogadoebaSi myof yvela borot da usamarTlo adamians saxalisod aRwers. romanis bolos icvleba patarebis azri mezoblisadmi, romelic maT sik-
vdilisgan ixsnis. wignis dasasruls, yvela personaJs gansxvavebulad vxedavT, maT namdvil saxesa da adamianur Tvisebebs siRrmiseulad vecnobiT. romani sakmaod optimisturi da, amavdroulad, dramatulia. faqtobrivad, erTi kaci upirispirdeba mTel sazogadoebas. xedav rogor moqmedebs dauwereli kanonebi dawerilis winaaRmdeg. rogor moiwonebda am uTanasworobas atikus finCi?! atikus finCi yvelaze humanuri adamiania. mas gansakuTrebuli unari aqvs, pativi sces sxvas. dainaxos masSi is, rasac sxvebi ver xedaven. adamiani keTili suliT, usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg mebrZoli, icavs tom robinsons. igi Savkaniania da miuxedavad atikusis mier warmodgenili mtkicebulebebisa, msajulebi mainc erTxmad adanaSauleben. romanis mTvar Temad adamianis morali rCeba. martivad rom vTqvaT, es aris brZola sikeTesa da borotebas Soris. veravin SeZlo sazogadoebis garkveuli nawilis maxinj mosazrebebsa da cru warmodgen-
ebs win aRdgomoda. atikusi mtkiced idga am usamarTlobis winaSe. „Wyita“ da jemi am saSinel movlenebs bavSvis TvaliT uyureben da qaosur samyaroSi udanaSaulobis SegrZnebas kargaven. atikusi uaRresad moralistia. mniSvnelovania misi darigeba: „erTaderTi, rasac jafara Svreba, isaa, rom mReris da gvarTobs. is arc baR–bostnebs gviCanagebs, arc kalosTan ibudebs, cuds arafers sCadis da adamians arafers uSavebs, mxolod galobs da galobs da galobiT gvatkbobs. ai, ratomaa codva jafaras mokvla“. is cdilobs es Tviseba Svilebsac gadasces, iswavlon adamianis dafaseba ara misi kanis ferisa an socialuri mdgomareobis, aramed pirovnuli Tvisebebisa da Rirsebebis mixedviT. atikusi ukan ar ixevs maSinac ki, roca yvela mis winaaRmdegaa, radgan icis, rasac akeTebs. atikus finCi gmiria ara garegnulad, aramed RirebulebaTa gamo. sxvaTa Soris, jafara romanis bolos umniSvnelovanesi scenis win galobs. Tavdasx-
mis ubrwyinvalesi epizodi erT-erTi gamorCeulia amerikuli prozis istoriaSi. romanis bolos avtoris mier dawerili sityvebi dauviwyaria: „roca ojaxSi vinme kvdeba, mezoblebs saWmeli moaqvT, roca vinme avad xdeba – yvavilebi an wvrilmani saCuqrebi. bua Cveni mezobeli iyo, man ori sapnis Tojina, Zewkvze dakidebuli mwyobridan gamosuli saaTi, ori jadosnuri peniani da... sicocxle gvaCuqa. oRond mezoblebi saCuqars saCuqriT upasuxeben xolme, Cven ki sanacvlod araferi Cagvidia fuRuroSi. buasTvis sikeTe ar gadagvixdia da guli naRveliT amevso…“. wignSi asaxulma istoriulma fonma SesaZloa mkiTxveli gaakvirvos. harper li saubrobs imaze, rom 1930-ian wlebSi, roca amerika didi depresiis SuagulSi iyo, ekonomikuri sirTuleebi uamrav problemas aaSkaravebda. moqalaqeebi qcevis normebs swavlobdnen, TandaTan myardeboda socialuri Tanasworoba. imarTeboda gamosvlebi qalTa da SavkanianTa uflebebis mosapoveblad, Tumca
zogierTi kampanias Zalis gamoyenebiT awarmoebda. am dros „amerikuli ocneba” sazogadoebisTvis miuRweveli iyo. mosaxleobas surda, ecxovra Tanasworuflebian, moralurad Rirseul sazogadoebaSi, am ocnebas ki problemebi eRobeboda. harper li individualurad TiToeuli personaJis mankieri mxaris gamoaSkaravebiT mkiTxvels sazogadoebis realur saxes aCvenebs. adamianebTan urTierTobis oqros wesi avtorma ubralo winadadebiT gamoTqva, romelsac erT-erT epizodSi advokati eubneba skolisken mimaval jin-luizasa da jems: „kacs verasdros bolomde ver gaicnob, Tu droebiT mis tyavSi ar CaZveri da ise ar gaiar-gamoiare!“
mweralma romanSi sakuTari bavSvobis saxli da mogonebebi gaacocxla. mamamisi, frensis finCi, monrovilSi advokati da gazeTis redaqtori iyo. aTi wlis harperze Zalian imoqmeda qalaqSi momxdarma faqtma, rodesac cxra Savkaniani mamakaci ori TeTrkaniani gogonas gaupatiurebaSi usamarTlod daadanaSaules. swored es faqti daedo safuZvlad romanSi gadmocemul tom robinsonis istorias. dasawyisi
cota damRleli iyo yvela im aRweriT, rac saWiro aRmoCnda siuJetis asawyobad. saerTo jamSi, wigni inarCunebs karg temps. lis Txrobis gansakuTrebuli niWi hqonda. mas SeeZlo tragikuli ambavi iumoriT gadmoeca.
es aris wigni, romelic yvelam unda waikiTxos. amis Semdeg ki ufro humanuri da bevrad keTili vxdebiT, vidre aqamde viyaviT. es aris wigni, romelic mxolod kargisken gcvlis da gindeba, rac SeiZleba didi xniT iyo aseTi Secvlili. minda aRvniSno, rom amaze Tbili wigni ar wamikiTxavs, amaze adamianuri, gulwrfeli da damajerebeli… xSirad dasmul, yvelasTvis Tavismomabezrebel kiTxvaze, romelia Cemi yvelaze sayvareli wigni, gonebaSi yovelTvis puliceris premiisa da aSSis Tavisuflebis saprezidento medlis mflobeli mwerlis, harper lis, saxeli amomitivtivdeba. davrCi wignSi!
„Succession“
„ succession “ (romelic qarTul enaze dublirebulia, rogorc „memkvidreoba“) HBO-s dramatuli serialia. Sou ekranebze 2018 wels gamoCnda. is mediamagnat logan roisa da misi ojaxis daZabul urTierTobebze, kompaniisTvisa da ZalauflebisTvis brZolaze mogviTxrobs. serialis Sinaarsi da stili Seqspiriseul tragediasa da mZlavr
Tanamedrove sarkazms aerTianebs. rac mas gansa-
kuTrebul mimzidvelobas aniWebs. serials mravali jildo, maT Soris, 19 „emi“ damsaxurebulad aqvs mopovebuli da yvela drois erTerT yvelaze titulovan serialTa siaSia. 2021 wels BBC-is mier 206 kritikosis gamokiTxvis safuZvelze 21-e saukunis 100 udides satelevizio serials Soris Soum me-10 adgili daikava. sareitingo platforma „rotten tomatoes”-ze“ serialma auditori-
is 95%-is mowoneba daimsaxura.
TiToeuli personaJi unikaluri xasiaTiT gamoirCeva da sxvadasxva midgomiT Zalauflebis mopovebas cdilobs. es maT Soris mudmiv dapirispirebebs, intrigebsa da manipulaciebs iwvevs, rac Sous daZabulobasa da moulodnel dinamikurobas sZens. samsaxiobo gundis ostatoba serialis didi warmatebis erT-erTi mTavari mizezia. TiToeuli artisti
Tavisi personaJis unikalur xasiaTsa da fsiqologias unaklod gadmoscems.
braian koqsi serialSi rols yvelaze Zlierad da dasamaxsovreblad asrulebs. sapensio asaks miRweuli misi personaJi, logan roi
aris mediaimperiis sastiki da daundobeli monarqi. msaxiobis civi gamoxedva da saubris mkacri manera yvela scenaSi daZabulobis gancdas iwvevs. artistis udidesi damsaxurebaa personaJis Sinagani konfliqtis gadmocema. miuxedavad gmiris diqtatoruli bunebisa, koqsi axerxebs loganis travmebi da naklovanebebi dagvanaxos. amiT personaJi erTdroulad siZulvilisa da TanagrZnobis gancdas iwvevs.
jeremi
strongis mier gansaxierebuli personaJi, kendali udavod gamorCeulia. msaxiobis ostatoba am gmirs, romelic gamudmebiT sakuTari identobis Camoyalibebisa da Zalauflebis mopovebisTvis ibrZvis, gansakuTrebul tragizmsa da damajereblobas sZens. sara snuki mravalsaxovani personaJis, Sivon rois rolSi daxvewili da
damajerebelia. Sivi loganis erTaderTi qaliSvilia, romelic politikuri elitis piarmenejerad
muSaobs da am unarebs mamis korporaciisTvis brZolaSi warmatebiT iyenebs, xSirad xdeba seqsizmis msxverpli, Tumca Zlieri qalia. sara snuki am rols idealurad ganasaxierebs. msaxiobi, kiran kalkini mis personaJs, roman rois SouSi profesionalurad da originalurad ganasaxierebs. kalkinis unari, iumorisa da seriozuli xasiaTis Tanabrad gadmocema, scenariT Cafiqrebul gmirs zustad gviCvenebs. msaxiobi personaJis adamianur mxareebs nel-nela avlens da rols damajerebelad asrulebs.
„ succession“-is msaxiobTa ansambli mayurebels dauviwyar da unikalur Sesrulebas sTavazobs. isini idealurad axerxeben maTi personaJebis Rrma da rTuli xasiaTebis gadmocemas, rac auditorias gulgrils namdvilad ver datovebs. serialis musikaluri gaformeba, romelic nikolas britelis Semoqmedebaa, „ succession “-is atmosferosa da zogad tonze mniSvnelovnad moqmedebs. mTavari saundtreki bolo wlebis satelevizio sivrceSi erT-erTi yvelaze dasamaxsovrebeli nawarmoebia. gazviadebuli ar iqneba, Tu mas iseTi kompozitorebis namuSevrebis gverdiT davayenebT, rogorebic hans zimeri da ramin javadi arian. musika siuJets idealurad ergeba, dinamikurad viTardeba da xSirad emociur fons amZafrebs, rac msmenelSi grandiozulobis, dramatulobisa da ironiis gancdas iwvevs. zogierTi mayureblisTvis musika oTxi sezonis ganmavlobaSi mosabezrebeli xdeba, radgan erTi da ig-
ive motivi xSirad meordeba. Tumca, mTlianobaSi, serialis maRali xarisxisa da reitingis erT-erT mTavar mizezad britelis namuSevari rCeba. „ succession-is“ operatorebis: andria pareikosa da patrik kapones namuSevari serialis vizualuri esTetikisa da dramatuli garemos aRqmas mniSvnelovnad uwyobs xels. operatoruli xerxebidan yvelaze damaxasiaTebeli da mkafio elementi aris moZravi kamera, romelsac xSirad dokumenturi filmis gadaRebisas iyeneben. am stils serialSi sicocxle da spontanuroba Semoaqvs. zogjer kamera iseT personaJze fokusirdeba, romelic ar moqmedebs. Semdeg mimarTulebas uceb icvlis. es aspeqti serials improvizirebulobisa da realobis SegrZnebas matebs, TiTqos mayurebeli Sous uSualo monawilea. aseve xSiria kameris zumis gamoyeneba, is kadris moulodneli gadidebiT konkretul emociur moments eZebs da personaJis reaqcias usvams xazs, rac mayurebels gmirebis gancdebTan akav
Sirebs. es teqnika Zalze warmatebulia, imave meTods vxvdebiT yvelasTvis cnobil sitkomSi _ „the office“. operatorebi sivrces SesaniSnavad iyeneben, farTo xedvis daxmarebiT mayurebeli kargad aRiqvams im fufunebasa da simdidres, rasac rois ojaxi flobs. ofisebis, sasaxleebis, iaxtebis, sastumroebisa da bunebis aRbeWdva serialis didebul atmosferos qmnis. serialis scenari struqturulad daxvewilia. dialogebiTa da siuJetis ganviTarebis TvalsazrisiT _ ostaturad agebuli. Sou dinamikurobiT gamoirCeva. scenaris
Zlieri mxarea personaJTa xasiaTis logikuri cvlileba. amasTanave, is yvela epizodSi daZabulobas inarCunebs. dialogebi serialis umTavresi Rirsebaa. TiToeuli scena simZafriTa da mravalSriani qveteqstebiT aris datvirTuli. personaJebis saubari xSirad sarkastulia, rac aramxolod amZafrebs maT urTierTobebs, aramed Savi iumoris elementebsac Seicavs, rac mTeli serialis ganmavlobaSi igrZnoba. xSirad minimalisturi movlenebi yvelaze dramatul efeqtebs qmnis. magaliTad, bevr mniSvnelovan moments erTi
SexedviT ubralo saubris dros warmoTqmuli sityva gansazRvravs. es ki auditoriis mxridan did yuradRebas moiTxovs. unda iTqvas, rom serialis scenari martivi namdvilad ar aris. erTi patara momentis gamotovebiT SeiZleba mayurebeli serialis mimdinareobas CamorCes da iseTi STabeWdileba darCes, rom saintereso araferi xdeba. zogierTma es SeiZleba naklad miiCnios, zogierTma ki scenaris daweris ostatobas miaweros, mec am ukanasknels vemxrobi.
„ succession-is“ mTavari Temebia: Zalaufleba, ojaxuri urTierTobebi da
Tanamedrove korporaciuli samyaros simaxinje. moraluri dilemebi, rasac personaJebi awydebian, gviCvenebs, rogor SeiZleba Zalauflebam da didebam piradi urTierTobebi gaanadguros. Sou aramxolod ojaxis dangrevasa da maT Soris konkurencias asaxavs, aramed farTod ganixilavs mediis, finansebisa da politikis gavlenas Tanamedrove cifrul sazogadoebaze. serialis erT-erTi mTavari gmiri, logan roi realur figuras
„the sun-is“, „the times-isa“ da sxva mravali saerTaSoriso gamocemebis mflobel mediamag-
nat rupert merdoks mogvagonebs, romelic didi qveynebis politikaze gavlenisa da ukanono satelefono mosmenebis gamo sajarod kritikis obieqti araerTxel gamxdara. xazgasmiT minda aRvniSno, rom serialis Semqmnelebisgan amaze pirdapiri miTiTeba ar arsebobs, magram dakvirvebuli mayureblisTvis es rTuli SesamCnevi ar iqneba. Sous aseve SeiZleba masonu-
ri qveteqstebic mivakeroT. xSirad iseT scenebs vxvdebiT, sadac izolirebul mdidrul sasaxleebSi gavleniani elita ikribeba da msofliosTvis mniSvnelovan gadawyvetilebebs iRebs, magaliTad, iseTsac ki, Tu vin unda iyos aSSis prezidenti. amgvarad, „succession“ aris seriali, romelic Tanabrad gvaxalisebs, gvabnevs da gvafiqrebs. es aris
STambeWdavi sarkastuli portreti kapitalizmis ukiduresobebis, adamianis bunebis xarbi da cinikuri mxareebis Sesaxeb. misi unikaluri Txrobis stili, ostaturi samsaxiobo gundi, vizualuri eleganturoba, gamorCeuli musikaluri gaformeba, Tanamedrove epoqaSi erT-erT yvelaze Rirebulsa da mniSvnelovan satelevizio produqts qmnis.
Tu gsurT gaigoT, rogoria samyaro, sadac siyvaruli da erTguleba nadgurdeba ZalauflebisTvis brZolaSi, rogor SeiZleba moqmedebdes masobrivi mediasaSualebebi sazogadoebrivi azris formirebaze, „succession“ zustad is serialia, romelic am Tvalsazriss daganaxebT.
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arvelaZem safexburTo kariera 1991 wels saqarTvelos yvelaze titulovan klub Tbilisis „dinamoSi“ daiwyo. dedaqalaqur gundSi igi 1991–1993 wlebSi TamaSobda da erovnuli Cempionatis 57 matCSi 35 goli gaitana. 1993 wels saqarTvelodan trapizonSi, klub „trabzonsforSi“ gadainacvla. man „TurqeTis superligis“ 46 Sexvedra Caatara da 17-jer
aiRo metoqeTa kari. 1997 wels holandiis „eredivizionis“ klub „bredaSi“ gadavida, romlis maisuriTac erovnuli pirvelobis 90 matCSi miiRo monawileoba da 32 goli gaitana. 2000 wels „bundesligis“ monawile „kiolnis“ rigebSi gaagrZela kariera. TamaSs Tavi travmis gamo 30 wlis asakSi 2005 wels daaneba, am periodSi is Tbilisis „lokomotivis“ fexburTeli iyo. arCil arvelaZe
TamaSis stiliT, erT-erTi gamorCeuli da dasamaxsovrebeli figuraa. mas xangrZlivi karieris ganmavlobaSi uamrav sirTulesTan mouwia gamklaveba. fexburTeli interviuSi swored am Temasa da sakuTar gamocdilebaze gvesaubreba. _ra asakidan gagiCndaT fexburTisadmi siyvaruli?
_4 wlidan ukve mqonda survili, rom fexburTi meTamaSa. CemTvis sxva gasarTobi saSualeba, magaliTad, „saTamaSo iaraRi“ ar arsebobda. vxedavdi mxolod burTsa da stadions. _vin iyo
Tqveni inspi
raciis wyaro?
_Cemi ufrosi Zma rezi, romelmac udidesi gavlena moaxdina Cemze da Cems tyup Zmaze. rodesac vuyurebdiT, ramxela siamovnebas iRebda TamaSis dros, Cvenc gviRrmavdeboda ltolva fexburTisadmi. _ Tqvens karieraSi ummniSvnelovanes momentad romels miiCnevT?
_sabWoTa kavSiris periodSi aramarto me, aramed yvela fexburTeli „Tbilisis dinamoSi“ moxvedraze vocnebobdiT. Sesabamisad, yvelaze mniSvnelovani da sasixarulo momenti am klubSi gawevrianeba iyo.
_ra mniSvnelobas aniWebT fexburTSi gundur muSaobas? _fexburTi gunduri TamaSia, magram aucilebelia gunds hyavdes lideri. man unda daicvas balansi erTobasa da individualurobas Soris, ise, rom arcerT mxares ziani ar miadges. fexburTSi megobrobac umniSvnelovanesia. me karieris dasawyisSive gaviazre, rom Tu moTamaSisa da klubis interesebi ar emTxveva erTmaneTs, iq warmatebis miRweva sakmaod rTulia. _romel TamaSs gamoarCevdiT Tqvens karieraSi da ratom?
_damoukidebeli saqarTvelos istoriaSi gamovarCev im matCs, rodesac dinamo UEFA-s CempionTa Tasze „linfilds“ Sexvda. aseve, gamovyof erovnul nakrebSi Catarebul pirvel oficialur TamaSs, romelic Cemi bavSvobis axdenili ocneba iyo. _vin aris Tqveni sayvareli fexburTeli? _im periodSi gavizarde, rodesac daviT yifianisa da aleqsandre CivaZis Taoba TamaSobda, Sesabamisad, maTi Semyure mec miCndeboda survili, rom maTsaviT warmatebuli gavmxdariyavi. amave periodSi msoflios
ipyrobda maradona, romelic CemTvis misabaZi fexburTeli iyo. dRes ki mesis didi gulSematkivari var, radgan mimaCnia, rom burTis dauflebis saocari teqnika aqvs. _ ra Tvisebebi unda hqondes efeqtur mwvrTnels?
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TiToeul moTamaSes siRrmiseulad unda icnobdes, aseve, unda hqondes moTmenis, gadmocemisa da axsnis unari. gaTavisebuli unda hqondes, rom yvela sportsmeni individualur midgomas moiTxovs, Sesabamisad, unda moergos gundis yvela wevrs. _ rogor umklavdebodiT rTul periods karieraSi?
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To karieraSi uamravi aseTi periodi mqonia, maT Soris, sxvadasxva operacia da araerTi travma gadamitania umniSvnelovanes momentebSi. am yvelafris daZlevaSi Cemi ojaxis wevrebi damexmarnen. maT yovelTvis sjerodaT, rom fexze wamovdgebodi. maSin reabilitaciis gavlis aranairi pirobebi ar iyo da situacias es ufro arTulebda. miuxedavad amisa, axlo adamianebis gverdSi dgo-
mam ormagad gamaZliera da sakuTar SesaZleblobebSi damarwmuna. 29 wlis asakSi bolo operacia gavikeTe, ris gamoc veRar SevZeli karieris gagrZeleba. Zalian gamiWirda imis gacnobiereba, rom fexburTs veRar viTamaSebdi. fsiqologiurad rTuli gadasatania, rodesac travma gaSorebs im saqmianobas, romlis gareSec cxovreba warmoudgeneli ggonia. Seni yvela dasaxuli mizani ki rCeba miuRweveli. Tumca am sirTulesTan gamklavebaSi Cemi Zma damexmara. is maSin jer kidev TamaSobda. nel-nela gadaverTe mis karieraze da aqtiurad vadevnebdi Tvals SoTas yvela matCs. _gaqvT raime hobi an interesi fexburTis garda? _yvelanairi sporti mizidavs, gansakuTrebiT ki, bavSvobidanve kalaTburTi da magidis CogburTi mainteresebda. _fexburTi rom ara, romel profesias airCevdiT? _ganaTlebis TvalsazrisiT damTavrebuli maqvs sainJinro-ekonomikuri fakulteti, Tumca ekonomistobas, rogorc
profesias, ar ganvixilavdi, mxolod fexburTze viyavi koncentrirebuli. _ra aris yvelaze didi gamowveva, romelsac dRes fexburTelebis umetesoba awydeba? _gamowvevaa yvelaferi is, rac winaaRmdegobaSi modis warmatebasTan. sportSi myof adamians bevr rameze uwevs uaris Tqma. dRevandelma sportsmenebma unda gaiTavison is faqti, rom fexburTSi
ma damokidebulebam sagrZnoblad imata. fexburTelebs socialur qselSi uweren uaryofiT komentarebs, kicxaven warumatebeli TamaSis gamo, rasac kategoriulad vewinaaRmdegebi. gulsatkenia, rodesac erTi TamaSiT afaseben Sens profesionalizms, Tumca aman miznis miRwevaSi xeli ar unda SegiSalos. _ra rCevas miscemT axalgazrda fexburTelebs? _ dro ar
xvalindeli dRe ar arsebobs, arsebobs mxolod dRevandeli da guSindeli. _rogor umklavdebodiT kritikas? _im periodSi, rodesac me vTamaSobdi, media iSviaTad saubrobda sportis Sesaxeb. aseve, ar arsebobda telefonebi, amrigad, kritikis qarcecxli ar gadamitania. dRes am movlenam da negatiur-
dakargon, maqsimalurad gamoiyenon yoveli dRe da saaTi, rom warmatebas miaRwion. marto niWi ar aris mTavari, mniSvnelovania Sroma da mxolod amis Semdeg niWi. rodesac am or Tvisebas gamoimuSaveb, miuRweveli SenTvis araferia.
giorgi gagua
aris 22 wlis qarTveli Tavdamsxmeli. man profesiuli kariera Tbilisis „saburTaloSi“ daiwyo. Tavisi potenciali saqarTvelos umaRles divizionSi aCvena. Semdeg kariera espaneTSi, „alavesis“ meore gundSi, gaagrZela, romelSic kalaTburTis federaciis daxmarebiT moxvda. fexburTelma 202223 wlebis sezoni ijariT, espaneTis rangiT mesame ligis „real unionSi“ gaatara, romlis SemadgenlobaSi 28 matCSi 2 goli gaitana da 1 sagole pasi Seasrula. 22 wlis forvards saqarTvelos 17, 19 da 21 wlamde nakrebSi uTamaSia. axla ki xorvatiis umaRlesi ligis gundSi, „istraSi“ asparezobs. 2023 wlis 21 ivniss giorgi gaguam qarTuli fexburTis gulSematkivars didi sixaruli moutana. portugaliasTan gatanili goliT man 21 wlamde evropis Cempionatze mTel msoflios aCvena, rom saqarTveloSi fexburTis niWieri
Taoba modis. Tavdamsxmeli moedanze teqnikuri daxvewilobiTa da taqtikuri inteleqtiT gamoirCeva. is interviuSi karieraze, samomavlo gegmebsa da ocnebebze gvesaubra.
_fexburTiT rodis dainteresdiT? _5 wlis asakidan mamas fexburTze davyavdi. yvela varjiSze bednieri mivdiodi, radgan iq Cemi megobrebi da is garemo mxvdeboda, romelic Zalian miyvarda. ma-
maCemi fexburTeli iyo da undoda, rom mec am sferoSi vyofiliyavi. pirveli nabijebis gadadgma klub „CempionSi“ daviwye. Semdeg „dinamos” akademiaSi gadavedi da mivxvdi, rom am profesiaze seriozulad unda mefiqra. gardamtexi etapi gubaz doliZesTan moxvedra iyo. evropaSi wasasvlelad swored man momamzada. _vin iyo Tqveni inspiracia? _babuaCemi. miuxedavad imisa, rom, sanam davibadebodi, iqamde gardaicvala. misi gavlena mainc didia. swored babuaCemis pativsacemad mqvia es saxelic da mas mamsgavseben. Seni warmateba yvelaze metad ojaxs uxaria. Semdeg ukve megobrebs. isini Cems cxovrebaSi Zalian did rols TamaSoben. _ bavSvobaSi riT iyaviT dainteresebuli? _rogorc yvela bavSvi, mec „fleisTeiSeniTa“ da „iqsboqsiT“ vTamaSobdi, magram mandac sul sporti iyo. mTeli bavSvoba am profesiaze viyavi Seyvarebuli da es siyvaruli dRemde momyveba. _ gaqvT Tu ara iseTi Tviseba, romelic warmatebis miRwevaSi gexmarebaT? _ arasdros vnebdebi. dawyebuli saqme yovelTvis bolomde mimyavs da sul mogebisTvis vibrZvi. Tavs ar vzogav, rodesac vici, rom es saqme Cem garSemo xalxs gaaxarebs. amitom yvelaze metad am Tvisebas gamovarCevdi. _ romeli iyo
SenTvis yvelaze dasamaxsovrebeli matCi?
_portugaliasTan gamarTuli SarSandeli matCi, romelSic goli gavitane. 21 wlamdelTa evropis CempionatisTvis daaxloebiT 2 weli vemzadebodiT. Cempionati saqarTveloSi tardeboda, amitom avtomaturad monawileebi viyaviT da kvalifikaciis mopoveba aRar iyo saWiro. Sesabamisad, ori weli oficialuri TamaSis gareSe gavatareT. didi pasuxismgebloba vigrZeni, radgan aseT did Cempionatze pirvelad vasparezobdiT. sabolood Zalian kargi da emociurad datvirTuli TamaSi gamogvivida. _ mniSvnelovani matCebisTvis rogor emzadebiT? _ra Tqma unda, TamaSis dawyebamde sworad vikvebebi, vcdilob ojaxs vesaubro, musikas vusmen da, rac mTavaria, yvela TamaSis win vloculob. _ramdenad mniSvnelovania gunduroba sportSi? _rodesac gundur sports TamaSob, Seni Tanagundelis daxmareba yovelTvis gWirdeba. Zalian rTulia, rom erT-
ma kacma TerTmets martom mougos. fexburTi da ragbi swored amitom miyvars. erTmaneTis gareSe warmateba ver miiRweva. _gaqvT
Tu ara moklevadiani miznebi? _yvelaze didi mizani erovnul nakrebSi moxvedraa, radgan Seni qveynisa da ojaxisTvis TamaSi sul sxva SegrZnebaa. aseve, gvinda gundSi qulebis dagroveba da evroturnirebis kvalifikaciis mopoveba. _rogor fiqrobT, ra aris
Tqveni sisuste?
_Zalian emociuri da feTqebadi var. raRac incidentis dros
SeiZleba wamierad gaviTiSo da cxel gulze iseTi gadawyvetileba miviRo, rac cud Sedegebs moitans. es Zalian iSviaTad memarTeba. _ra aris
yvelaze didi gamowveva sportsmenebisTvis? _koncentraciis dakargva. socialuri qselebiT Zalian bevr informacias viRebT da mniSvnelovania, rom realobis aRqma ar davkargoT. Tu raime saqmeze 100% ar varT koncentrirebuli, warmatebis
miRweva Zalian gagviWirdeba. _ra iyo
yvelaze didi gamowveva Tqvens karieraSi? _17 wlis asakSi Cemi ojaxis datoveba da espaneTSi sacxovreblad gadasvla. Tavidan rTuli iyo, magram Tanagundelebi Zalian damexmarnen. ra Tqma unda, ojaxic gverdT medga da Tavi marto ar migrZvnia. maTi wyalobiT garemos martivad SeeCvie. gaTviTcnobierebuli mqonda, am yvelafers risTvis da ratom vakeTebdi. _romelia Tqveni oc nebis klubi?
_„barselona“. bavSvobidan am klubis gulSematkivari var. me da mama maT TamaSebs yovelTvis vuyurebdiT. yvela drois saukeTeso sportsmenad mesi mimaCnia. _ ras urCevT damwyeb fexburTelebs? _vurCevdi, rom Zalian bevri ivarjiSon, radgan fexburTSi mTavari dauRalavi Sromaa. gza rTulia, magram mondomebiT yvela qarTvel fexburTels SeuZlia ucxoeTSi asparezoba, radgan Zalian niWieri eri varT.
