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Tamuna nikolaZe farTo auditoriam teleserial „Sua qalaqiT“ gaicno. garda amisa, is 20 welia, rac Tavisufali Teatris msaxiobia. miwveuli iyo sxvadasxva TeatrebSi, muSaobs telekompania „imedSi“ gadacemis „stumrad Sua qalaqis“ erT-erT wamyvanad, Teatralur skola „Teatrsa“ da erovnul sasaxleSi aswavlis samsaxiobo ostatobas. rogor daiwyo misi kariera da ras niSnavs misTvis Teatri interviuSi gviyveba.
_rogor gadawyviteT gamxdariyaviT msaxiobi? _Zalian adre, Rrma bavSvobaSi, 3 wlisac ar viyavi, rodesac aRmovCndi marjaniSvilis Teatris scenaze didi msaxiobebis gverdiT. sWirdebodaT bavSvi da me maTamaSes. Semdeg ukve skolis damTavrebamde, romel speqtaklSic bavSvi dasWirdebodaT, yvelgan me manawilebdnen. daaxloebiT 5-6 speqtaklSi momiwia monawileobis miReba. Cems saxlsa da marjaniSvilis Teatrs erTi kedeli yofda da, bunebrivia, sxva profesiaze verc vifiqrebdi, radgan TeatrTan erTad cxovreba Cemi Cveva gaxda. Sesabamisad, ra Tqma unda, skolis
damTavrebis Semdeg, pirvelive wels Cavabare Teatralur universitetSi. _romelia TqvenTvis yvelaze metad dasamaxsovrebeli roli?
_rTulia gamorCeva, magram gamovyof ramdenimes. Zalian miyvars Teatralur universitetSi Cemi sadiplomo namuSevari, speqtakli „seilemis procesi“, roli - meri uoreni. gavixseneb noras rols Tavisufali Teatris speqtakl „Tojinebis saxlidan“. yovelTvis maxsendeba amave Teatris „valsi Zilis win“, roli - Tamuna. aseve Cemi bolo premiera, speqtakli „guSindelni dRes“, roli - kekela.
_rogor unda Seiqmnas damajerebeli personaJi?
_upirvelesad kargad unda gaviazroT piesa, Cveni konkretuli roli, piesis Sinaarsi risTvis da ratom dawera dramaturgma. aseve personaJis istoria unda gamoviZioT, saWiroa vicodeT, Tu ras emsaxureba misi qmedebebi konkretul piesaSi. gasaTvaliswinebelia, ra surs reJisors, rogori versia aqvs. Zalian sworad unda gaverkveT, ra Janria, rogor gamovxatoT personaJis saTqmeli. am yvelafris Semdeg modis samagido repeticiebi da nel-nela scenaze „cxveba“ sworad „gamoZerwili“ saxe. yovelTvis vcdilob viTamaSo iseTi saxeebi, rogorebic realurad arseboben Cvens cxovrebaSi. _rogor moqmedebs speqtaklis mayurebeli Tqvenze? _speqtaklis mayurebeli, ra Tqma unda, Zalian miyvars da did pativs vcem. isini samsaxurebis Semdeg morbian Te-
atrSi, manamde yiduloben bileTebs. bolo ramdenime welia Zalian didi moTxovnaa, gaWirda bileTebis yidva. SeZenas cdiloben, rogorc onlain ise cocxal rigSic. modian TeatrSi imisaTvis, rom CvenTan erTad imogzauron im saswaul da saintereso istoriebSi, romlebsac Cven vTavazobT maT. Teatris mayurebeli aris is, visTvisac Cven vnerviulobT, vSromobT, vfiqrobT, Teatris erT-erTi udidesi warmateba kargi, jansaRi da moazrovne mayurebelia. _rogor umklavdebiT speqtaklis win nerviulobas? _yvela premieras axlavs nerviuloba da albaT msaxiobebic ityvian, rom nerviuloben da ganicdian, magram nerviuloba ar aris saWiro. saWiroa yuradRebiT yofna, fizikuri da piris aparatis varjiSi. sasurvelia sakuTar TavTan 1 saaTiT marto darCe da hkiTxo: saidan sadamde unda waxvide, ra unda gauziaro mayurebels? es yvelaferi unda gaakeTo mSvidad, auRelveblad da Wkvianurad. rac imuSave: iSrome, rogorc iazrovne, aawyve Seni roli, ise aewyo speqtakli, 3-4 Tvis Sroma, repeticiebi absoluturad sworad unda gaitano scenaze. es udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa TanamSromlebisa da sakuTari Tavis winaSe. _gaqvT Tu ara raime rituali speqtaklis win? _speqtaklis win miyvars ganmartoeba da Cems sagrimioroSi didxans fusfusi. kostiumis, fexsacmlis, varcxnilobis, grimisa da makiaJis mowesrigeba. vamowmeb yvela rekvizits. aseve, speqtaklis
win rituali aqvs samsaxiobo dass reJisorTan erTad. _rogor SeafasebdiT dRevandeli qarTuli Teatris mdgomareobas?
_aris Zalian saintereso da seriozuli periodi. pandemiis Semdeg saerTod Seicvala da amotrialda adamianebis damokidebuleba, TiTqmis yvela, Tu ki vinmes vicnob, samsaxuris Semdeg miiCqaris Teatrebisaken. Zalian kargia, rom saxelmwifosTan erTad bevri kerZo Teatri ixsneba. aucilebelia meti dasaqmebuli msaxiobi. ra Tqma unda, aris bevri saqmis gareSe, razec Zalian guli mwydeba, magram studentTa jgufebidan, romlebic amTavreben Teatralur universitets, 80% dasaqmebulia.
_ras urCevdiT damwyeb msaxiobebs?
_abiturientebs, vurCev, rom universitetSi misvlamde kargad gaiazron, ratom undaT msaxioboba. gadaxedon qarTul da ucxour dramaturgias, iaron TeatrSi. speqtaklis Semdeg gaiazron sad iyvnen da ra naxes. xolo maT, vinc swavlobs Teatralur universitetSi, vusurveb udides nebisyofas, SemarTebas, yuradRebas, CvevaSi gadasul varjiSs, sakuTar TavTan muSaobis wesebisa da kulturis Camoyalibebas, partnioris sworad aRqmis unars, Teatris wesebis gaTavisebasa da zogadad, Zalian did warmatebas. msaxiobisTvis aucilebelia: inteleqti, gemovneba da azrovneba. msaxiobi mxolod maSin unda gaxde Tu am profesiis gareSe cxovreba ar SegiZlia.PAAP Ppaata mesxi
misTvis pirveli nabijebi karieraSi sakmaod rTuli iyo. dRes ki saqarTveloSi erT-erTi yvelaze cnobili da warmatebuli msaxiobia. 40 wlis ana tyebuCava farTo auditoriam gaicno, rogorc nina, serialidan „Cemi colis daqalebi“. garda amisa, mas araerT cnobil filmsa Tu speqtaklSi miuRia monawileoba. rogor miaRwia popularobas da ra sirTuleebs waawyda am gzaze, interviuSi gviyveba. _rodis da rogor gadadgiT pirveli nabijebi karieraSi? _bavSvobaSi yovelTvis vdgamdi patara scenebs, romlebSic yvelaze gulwrfelad vTamaSobdi. amitom gavxdi msaxiobi. pirveli warmateba „dasma“ da nanuka xuskivaZesTan Sexve-
dram ganapiroba. Sou, TamaSis garda, sxva sirTuleebsac moicavda. maTTan iseTi reJimi, wvrTna da Sinagani omi iyo, rom ver modundebodi. sami Tve vTamaSobdi gauCereblad, 24 saaTis ganmavlobaSi, rac Zalian didi fizikuri da gonebrivi datvirTvaa. aman bevri ram maswavla.
_romelia Tqveni yvelaze warmatebuli roli?
_yvelaze warmatebuli roli, ra Tqma unda, ninaa „Cemi colis daqalebidan“, romelmac momitana xalxis udidesi siyvaruli da popularoba. Tu ki rame SemoTavazeba maqvs, reklama iqneba es, Tu sxva, swored ninas rolisa da „formula kreativis“ udidesi damsaxurebaa.
_romeli roli iyo yvelaze rTuli TqvenTvis Sesasruleblad?
_yvelaze rTulad Sesasrulebeli roli goris TeatrSi speqtakli „gaugebroba“ iyo, im TvalsazrisiT, rom absoluturad sxvanairi formatiT momiwia muSaoba. es Zalian ucnauri da, amavdroulad, sasiamovno gamocdileba iyo. _ra SegZinaT serialma „Cemi
colis daqalebma“?
_am serialma SemZina kamerasTan urTierTobis udidesi gamocdileba da momca saSualeba momergo roli im diasaxlisis, romelsac win mravali Tavgadasavali da araerTi gamowveva eqneboda. aqve did madlobas vuxdi serialis SemoqmedebiT gunds, radgan momces saSualeba gavcnobodi farTo auditorias da momepovebina xalxis siyvaruli.
_rogor reagirebT uaryofiT komentarebze?
_sul vambob, rom kritikaze ar vreagireb, magram sinamdvileSi es Zalian rTuli procesia. gansakuTrebiT maSin, rodesac kompetenturi adamiani gakritikebs. zogjer aris, iseTi uaryofiTi komentari, romelic SeiZleba axlos iyos realobasTan da guls gtkendes. negatiur komentarebs Cems garegnobazec viReb, razec mecineba, radgan Cemi mizani ar aris is, rom viyo ulamazesi, Cemi mizania sworad gadmovce is amocanebi, romlebsac mavaleben. me vfiqrob, am profesias ar sWirdeba silamazis parametrebis dakmayofileba.
_aris Tu ara iseTi dReebi, rodesac naklebi motivacia gaqvT?
_yvelaze metad motivacia maSin mekargeba, rodesac me da reJisors ar gvaqvs erTnairi faseulobebi, ar vemTxveviT gamoxatvis formebsa da gemovnebaSi. es aris yvelaze didi saSineleba, albaT imaves ganicdis reJisoric. am dros gaqvs
Sinagani Widili, romelic gangrevs, radgan akeTeb imas, rac Sens pirovnebas kategoriulad ewinaaRmdegeba.
_rogor uTavsebT erTmaneTs diasaxlisobasa da msaxiobobas?
_ra Tqma unda, ar aris rTuli Tu Sen es ginda. Cemi mTeli cxovrebis mizania davamtkico, rom am ori saqmis erTmaneTTan SeTavseba SesaZlebelia.
_rom ara msaxiobi, ra profesiis iqnebodiT?
_rom ara msaxiobi, siamovnebiT viqnebodi modern baletSi. Tu popularoba da Tavisufleba iqneboda Cemi mizani, rokmomRerali gavxdebodi.
_ras etyodiT im adamianebs, romlebsac msaxioboba surT?
_msaxioburi niWis garda, aucilebelia, rom Seni Sinagani samyaro iyos mravalferovani, gqondes cxovrebiseuli codna. goniereba da pasuxismgebloba udides rols TamaSobs msaxiobobaSi. am sferoSi ar SeiZleba Tundac erTi wamiTac ki moduneba. aseve, mniSvnelovania gunduroba, mayureblis, partniorebisa da reJisorebis mimarT pativiscema. am yvelaferTan erTad unda iyo momxibvleli, dadebiTi energiis matarebeli da saocrad qarizmatuli. mokled rom vTqvaT, Zalian bevr rames iTxovs msaxioboba, Tumca am yvelafris gamomuSaveba arc ise rTulia, amis swavla SesaZlebelia.
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axalgazrda Taobis mweralma, naTia jagodniSvilma ivane javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis ekonomikisa da biznesis fakulteti daamTavra. sakuTar Semoqmedebaze Tavad avtori gvesaubreba.
lad winaze ukeTesi unda iyos. _rogor qmniT personaJebs?
_personaJebi TavisiT iqmnebian. Zalian miyvars sazogadoebriv transportSi xalxze dakvirveba, maTi istoriebis gamocnoba an gamogoneba, amitom erT dRes SeiZleba nebismieri gaxdes personaJi. ar mjera idealuri adamianebis arsebobis da Cemi personaJebic Zalian Cveulebrivi mokvdavebi arian, nebismieri rom SeZlebs maTSi sakuTari Tavis amocnobas. _romelia TqvenTvis yvelaze komfortuli adgili sawerad?
saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris, mweralTa erovnuli akademiisa da SoTa rusTavelis sazogadoebis wevri, Rirsebis ordenis kavaleri, sapatio garejelis wodebis mflobeli, samecniero-saero akademiis „fazisis“ akademikosi, galaktionis, giorgi leoniZisa da ana kalandaZis saxelobis premiebis laureati, roman zukakiSvili interviuSi poeziaze gvesaubreba. _batono roman, rodis aRmoaCineT sakuTar TavSi poeti? _rodesac ufalma mikarnaxa da pirvelad Cems cnobierebaSi poezia gaCnda, viqnebodi 7-8 wlis. ra Tqma unda, es iyo bavSvuri leqsebi, Tumca gulaxdilad getyviT, sirTuleebi me ar Semxvedria. Tavidanve dainteresda raionuli gazeTi da Semdeg sxvebic. rac Seexeba umniSvnelo sirTuleebs, zogjer leqsebs ar beWdavdnen, mogexsenebaT, axali saxelis gamoCena didad ar siamovnebT. Tumca rodesac niWi gaqvs da poezia namdvilad SenSia, nebismier bariers gadalaxav. _ras niSnavs TqvenTvis poezia?
_CemTvis poezia niSnavs sicocxles. amas gadaWarbebiT ar vambob. SeiZleba iyos dRe, rodesac Svid leqss davwer, Tumca aris periodi, rodesac TveSi mxolod or leqss vwer. Tu muza ar mewveva, Tu STagonebuli ar aris, naZaladevad ar SemiZlia arafris gakeTeba. xolo, roca es periodia, me leqsTan erTad yurSi Camesmis musikac. martivad rom giTxraT, CemTvis poezia bednierebasTan asocirdeba.
_sul ramdeni krebulis avtori xarT da Tu aris isini Targmnili sxvadasxva enaze? _var 16 poeturi krebulis da 100-ze meti sasimRero teqstis
_rodis mixvdiT, rom TqvenSi mwerlis niWi imaleboda? _albaT ase konkretulad ver xvdeba amas adamiani. metismetad xmamaRali naTqvamic ki SeiZleba iyos. wera 13 wlis asakSi daviwye, Tumca dRemde miWirs sakuTar Tavs mwerali vuwodo. albaT ufro mTxrobeli da saintereso ambebis avtori var. _rogorc vici, sami wigni gaqvT gamocemuli, romlebic gaxda bestseleri. romelze muSaoba iyo yvelaze rTuli? _yvela, Tavis mxriv, rTuli da kompleqsuri iyo, Tumca pirveli nabijebis gadadgma gansakuTrebiT riskiania da es kidev ufro matebda sirTules. _ra gamowvevebs waawydiT? _iyo fiqrebi, Tu rogor miiRebs xalxi, rogori iqneba kritika, Rirs Tu ara saerTod? yoveli momdevno wignis gamocemas ki is pasuxismgeblobac emateba, rom Semdegi aucileb-
_aseTi adgili ar maqvs, radgan, ar vici, rodis mova weris survili. SeiZleba raime konkretuli monakveTi mobiluris nouTebSic ki Caviwero. Tumca RamiT saxlSi mSvidad wera mirCevnia.
_aris raime faqti, rac adamianebma Sen Sesaxeb ginda, rom icodnen da ar ician?
_ara mgonia, aseTi iyos. maqsimalurad gulwrfeli da gulRia var da mkiTxvelebsac vcdilob, cnobismoyvareoba davukmayofilo.
_ras urCevdiT axalgazrda mwerlebs?
_vurCevdi, rom Zalian bevri ikiTxon da mudmivad imuSaon sakuTar Tavze, ar danebdnen. ar gaCerdnen da ibrZolon TavianTi miznebisa Tu ocnebebisTvis. _unda velodoT axal wigns uaxloes momavalSi?
_axali wignis wera jer ar damiwyia, Tumca idea damuSavebis procesSia da, vimedovneb, meoTxec male iqneba. izolda WumburiZe
avtori, leqsebis mcire nawili Targmnilia germanul da rusul enebze. amavdroulad, var Tanaavtori ramdenime sabavSo miuziklisa, agreTve irlandiuri poeziis anTologiis erT-erTi mTargmneli, gamocemuli maqvs iumoristuli nawarmoebebis erTi krebuli.
_garda poeziisa, Tu xarT dasaqmebuli sxva sferoSi?
_wlebis manZilze vmuSaobdi Semdeg Tanamdebobebze: sofel patarZeulis gamgeblad, amave soflis skolis direqtorad, sagarejos raionis ganaTlebis ganyofilebis ucxouri enebis meTodistad. 90- iani wlebis bolos momaniWes pedagogis umaRlesi kategoria, amJamad ki dasaqmebuli var saqarTvelos pedagogTa da mecnierTa Tavisufali profkavSiris sagarejos raionul organizaciaSi, Tavmjdomaris poziciaze.
_sakuTari poeziidan romel leqss gamoarCevdiT?
_rogorc Svilebs ver gavarCev erTmaneTisgan, asevea leqszec, Tanac rTulia 3000 leqsidan erTi amoarCio.
_Tqvens poeziaSi Tu Cans Tqveni warsuli cxovrebis mogonebebi?
_Zalian bevri. saerTod poezia xom warsuli, awmyo da momavalia. ra Tqma unda, garSemo ra xdeba unda asaxo, magram arcerTi poeti ar unda moswydes warsuls. ani qurdovaniZe
misive TqmiT aris: „erTi SexedviT arafriT gamorCeuli axalgazrda, romelsac wera da grZnobebis aseTi stiliT gadmocema uyvars.“ 20 wlis asakSi dawera sadebiuto romani „dasawyisis dasasruli“. aris konkursis „gaxdi bestseleris avtoris“ 2022 wlis gamarjvebuli. „dasawyisis dasasruli“ mogviTxrobs uCveulo axalgazrdul istorias. ambavi Cvens TanamedroveobaSi xdeba. mgoni erTxel mainc yvelas gviocnebia gaqrobaze, Tundac bavSvobaSi, Tumca Sedegebze naklebad gvifiqria. istoria swored maSin iwyeba, roca mTavari gmiri sakuTar Tavs sarkeSi veRar xedavs. gaqrobisgan gzaabneuli axalgazrda iwyebs imis Secnobas, Tu ra xdeba mis Tavs. am procesSi is gaivlis: imedgacruebas, tanjvas, sevdas da amas emateba uCveulo SesaZlebloba, gaugos sxvebs. mTavari personaJisaTvis sakmarisia Seexos nebismier adamians da grZnobs yvelafers, rasac is ganicdis. mTavari gmiri mogviTxrobs im realobis Sesaxeb, rac Tanamedrove cxovrebaSi Cven garSemo xdeba da zogjer ubralod ver vxedavT. irakli ariSvili interviuSi gviyveba saidan daiwyo misi, rogorc mwerlis, istoria. _wignis kiTxva dumbaZis moTxrobebma Semayvara, Tumca mwerlobasTan Cems Tavs ver vaigivebdi. bavSvobaSi Temebis werac mezareboda, Tan xeliT wera ar aris Cemi saqmianoba. imdenad swrafad vfiqrob xolme wignze, rom xeli ver mihyveba gonebas.
_rogor moxvdiT konkursSi „gaxdi bestseleris avtori“?
_ramdenime megobarma erTdroulad Camigdo feisbuqpo-
swavlobda „Istituto Marangoni“-sa da „AAccademia del Lusso“-Si, milanSi. is cnobili brendis “Anouki”-is mflobelia, romlis samosi araerT msoflio donis varskvlavs utarebia. warmatebuli dizaineri anuki areSiZe interviuSi sakuTar gamocdilebas gviziarebs.
_rodis daiwyeT saqmianoba rogorc dizainerma?
_saqmianoba daviwye 2010 wels, Tumca rogorc damoukidebelma dizainerma, 2013 wels Sevqmeni Cemi sakuTari brendi „anuki“. _ra iyo Tqveni inspiraciis wyaro?
_Cemi inspiraciis mTavar wyarod mogzaurobas davasaxelebdi. gansakuTrebiT miyvars ucxo qalaqebSi fexiT
sti. Tavidan bevri viorWofe, magram bolo wuTebSi gavagzavne ganacxadi. finalSi, rom gadavedi, maSin davasrule wignis werac. Tavidan mkiTxvelisgan skeptikuri damokidebuleba iyo, magram moxda is, rac moxda. _rodis daiwyeT wera?
_wignis pirveli winadadeba „rac ar unda gasakviri iyos, Cemi istoria ara dabadebiT, aramed, gardacvalebiT iwyeba” 2020 wlis 30 seqtembers daiwera, gagrZeleba _ cota mogvianebiT. manamde ufro saubris dros vyvebodi ambebs. wera gvian SemoiWra yoveldRiurobaSi. _vin aris Tqveni yvelaze didi gulSematkivari?
_mTeli ojaxi. Cemze metad isini nerviuloben yvela axali nabijis da wamowyebis win. cxadia yvelaze metadac maT uxariaT.
_ratom ar aqvs Tqveni wignis mTavar gmirs saxeli?
_es istoria aravis ekuTvnis. Tan yvelas ambavia. ar aris aucilebeli, vinme konkretulTan asocirdebodes. swored amitom ar davarqvi mTavar gmirs saxeli.
_rogor fiqrobT, Tqveni mTavari saTqmeli mkiTxvelma sworad gaigo?
_Tu ukukavSirs davujerebT, mkiTxvelma mSvenivrad miiRo Cemi saTqmeli da naazrevi.
_ra igrZeniT, roca pirveli wigni daasruleT?
_sicariele, rTulia, roca raRacaze didi xani muSaob, daasrulo da gaqres Sengan, magram, amavdroulad, sasiamovnocaa.
_„dasawyisis dasasrulis” mTavar personaJs SeuZlia SexebiT adamianis grZnobebis aRwera. Tqven Tu isurvebdiT imave unaris flobas?
seirnoba da xalxze dakvirveba, swored am dros vivsebi inspiraciiT.
_gqoniaT Tu ara profesiul gzaze iseTi dabrkolebebi, romlebmac gafiqrebines, rom danebebuliyaviT?
_profesiul gzaze dabrkolebebi yovelTvis aris, amis gareSe, faqtobrivad, SeuZlebelia ganviTareba. dabrkolebebs, rogorc SesaZleblobebs ise vuyureb, Sesabamisad, ufro motivacias maZlevs, vidre danebebis survils.
_romelia Tqveni yvelaze didi warmateba?
_gansakuTrebuli SegrZneba iyo italiuri „vogis“ proeqtSi - „The Next Talents 2016“ -Si moxvedra, rodesac piradad Sevxvdi da Sefasebebi movismine
_siamovnebiT meqneboda es Tviseba da maqsimalurad met adamians davexmarebodi. _Tqven daasruleT meore wigni _ „abervoxc” personaJebis cxovrebac iseTive amotrialebuli iqneba, rogoric wignis saTauria?
_wesiT, ase erqmeva wigns, Tu raRac ar Seicvala da ar gadavifiqre, mxolod imis Tqma SemiZlia personaJebis cxovrebaze, rom iq yvelaferi Tavdayiraa. vnaxoT, rodis SeZlebs mkiTxveli mis gacnobas.
_rogoria weris procesi TqvenTvis?
_samyarosgan sruli gaTiSva da mxolod wera, siCumeSi, sadac sakuTari fiqrebis xmauri miSlis mxolod xels.
_rogori SegrZnebaa Tqveni gmirebis sikvdili?
_ramdenime emociuri epizodi iyo CemTvis, Tumca, vcdilob, rom zedmetad ar „mivejaWvo” romelime gmirs.
_pirvels vis uziarebT Tqvens nawers?
_ xasiaTs gaaCnia, zogjer ucnobisTvisac ki gamiziarebia.
axla ukve daviwye erT saintereso ideaze muSaoba, Tumca jer ar vici, rogor ganviTardeba movlenebi.
_gaixsenEEEEeT yvelaze cudi rCeva, romelic TqvenTvis mouciaT werasTan dakavSirebiT?
_aseTi bevria. albaT is, rom frTiani frazebiT unda gavavso wigni, Tu minda, rom bevrma aitacos.
_rogorc vici, leqsebsac werT da araCveulebrivad mReriT. gicdiaT Tu ara, simReris dawera?
_musikis werisTvis Sesabamisi sanoto codna ar maqvs. Tu odesme movicli amisaTvis, an vipovi vinmes, vinc Cems gonebaSi moxazul kompoziciebs notebiT aamRerebs, siamovnebiT Sevqmni.
_rom SegeZloT 15 wlis irakli ariSvilis naxva, ra rCevas miscemdiT?
_arafers. yvela Secdoma Tu nabiji aris is, ramac aq momiyvana. didad warsulis qeqva ar miyvars.
_ras urCevdiT mwerlebs, romlebsac eSiniaT sakuTari naweris gasajaroebis?
_vurCevdi, rom ubralod iyvnen gulwrfelni da ikiTxon bevri, scadeT, Tu ar scdiT, samudamod is kiTxva SegWamT, rac axla gawuxebT. mzad unda iyoT, rom yvelas ar moewoneba, ubralod procesiT isiamovneT da wereT gulwrfelad.
_romelia Tqveni sayvareli fraza „dasawyisis dasasrulidan”?
_ar maqvs. CemTvis am dromde rTulia romelime gamovarCio. is frazebi, rac cnobili gaxda, isic mkiTxvelis damsaxurebaa da mec maTi xazgasmis Semdeg SevniSne.
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ana vinturisgan. gansakuTrebulad maxsendeba aseve is momenti, rodesac Harrods dainteresda „anukis“ samosiT. _cnobili adamianebidan vis scmia Tqveni samosi?
_gansakuTrebuli aJiotaJi gamoiwvia ledi gagas da heili biberis gamoCenam „anukis“ samosSi. aseve moulodneli siurprizi iyo, „anukis“ kabis
xilva Netflix-is proeqtSi „Emily in Paris”. msgavs momentebSi yovelTvis siamayis grZnoba meufleba Cemi gundis mimarT, romelTan erTadac yoveldRiurad vSromob, rom saqarTveloSi warmoebuli samosi qveynis farglebs gareT gavides. _ra aris Tqveni warmatebis saidumlo?
_CemTvis warmatebis mTavari
saidumlo aris Sromismoyvareoba. vfiqrob, rom amis gareSe warmoudgenelia sasurveli Sedegis miRweva.
_rogor uTavsebT erTmaneTs ojaxs da saqmes?
_drois menejmenti aris is, rac wlebTan erTad gamovimuSave. dilas viwyeb Zalian adrianad, yovelTvis vcdilob, rom droulad daviZino da jansaRad vikvebo, rom dRis ganmavlobaSi energiebi sworad gadavanawilo.
_gyavT Tu ara sayvareli dizainerebi, romlebTan erTadac isurvebdiT, rom SegeqmnaT raime axali?
_Alexander McQueen aris is dizaineri, romlis studiaSic didi siamovnebiT gavatarebdi dros, davakvirdebodi mis samuSao process da miviRebdi masTan erTad raime axlis SeqmnaSi monawileobas. samwuxaroa,
fotografoba „vardebis revoluciis“ dRes, 2003 wels, daiwyo. pirvelad SevardnaZis reJimis gasaprotesteblad gamosuli boSa qali gadaiRo. erT-erTi pirveli iyo, vinc mobiluri fotografiis swavleba daiwyo. misi fotosamyaro STambeWdavia. gTavazobT intervius mariam nakanTan.
_studiuri fotosesiebi ufro giyvarT, Tu gare gadaRebebi?
_studiur fotosesiaSi ver gaSli fantazias, radgan teritoriis gamo SezRuduli xar. gareT CarCoebi ar arsebobs, amitom Zalian bevri raRacis mofiqreba SeiZleba. saSualeba gaqvs gamoiyeno: arqiteqtura, buneba da stiqiebic.
rom amaze ocnebac ki SeuZlebelia axla. _rogor reagirebT uaryofiT komentarebze?
_droTa ganmavlobaSi, vfiqrob, imuniteti Camomiyalibda msgavsi komentarebis mimarT, Sesabamisad, yovelTvis vcdilob, rom sawinaaRmdegodadebiTi emociebi davubruno msgavsi komentarebis avtorebs. _ras urCevdiT im adamianebs, romlebsac dizaineroba surT momavalSi?
_aseT adamianebs vurCevdi, rom ar daiSuron energia swavlaze da iSromon bevri sakuTari miznebisTvis, radgan Sromis gareSe, faqtobrivad, warmoudgeneli mgonia warmatebis miRweva. vfiqrob, rom SromasTan erTad warmateba aucileblad mova.
nita maisuraZe mariam kekelia
_ra aris damwyebi fotografebis yvelaze didi Secdoma?
_albaT sakuTari Tavis gamocdil fotografebTan Sedareba, ris gamoc SeiZleba demotivacias grZnobdnen. ubralod unda gaerTo, iTamaSo, ifantazioro da yvelaferi kargad gamogiva.
_ ras Seiswavlian studentebi Tqveni kursebis farglebSi?
_studentebi Seiswavlian mobilur fotografias, telefonis teqnikur mxareebs, mxatvrul Rirebulebebs, fundamenturi aRqmis fsiqologiasa da sworad gadaRebis wesebs, rom gamouvideT saintereso da efeqturi fotoebi. adamianebs vCuqni frTebs, rac imas niSnavs, rom vaTavisufleb yvelanairi dadgenili wesebisa da tendenciebisgan. ubralod vaswavli iseT sqemebsa da mniSvnelovan mxatvrul ganaTebebs, rom Semdeg adamianma TviTon gaakontrolos yvelaferi da aravis mibaZos, aramed iyos individualuri da Seqmnas axali namuSevrebi. Cems masterklasebze daiSvebian 16 wlidan zemoT.
_rogor fiqrobT mobilurs
SeuZlia fotoaparatis Canacvleba?
_ki, mobilurma ukve Caanacvla fotoaparati.
_ra unda vicodeT, sanam fotografiis safuZvlianad Seswavlas SevudgebiT? _pirvel rigSi, unda icodeT,
Tanamedrove axalgazrdobas tatuireba sakuTari Tavis gamoxatvis erT-erT TvalsaCino saSualebad miaCnia, Tumca garkveul asakSi miRebuli gadawyvetilebebi mogvianebiT sananebeli xdeba. ra alternativa arsebobs da ra unda vicodeT, sanam sxeulis moxatvas gadavwyvetT? _ am sakiTxebze tatuartisti sali jabaSvili gvesaubra.
_rogori iyo Seni pirveli nabijebi tatuartistobisken? _tatu bavSvobidan momwonda. 16 wlis viyavi, pirvelad rom davixate, magram ar megona, Tu am sferoSi viqnebodi. meSinoda am pasuxismgeblobis aRebis. rodesac megobarma saloni gaxsna, SemomTavaza, mec mecada da pirveli tatu Tavis Tavze damaxatvina. imdenad momewona procesi, samsaxurs Tavi davanebe da tatuartistoba gadavwyvite.
_ramdenad mniSvnelovania am saqmeSi xatvis niWi?
_tatuindustria imdenad viTardeba, rom ar moiTxovs am niWis qonas da gaZlevs gadaxatvis SesaZleblobas im SemTxvevaSi, Tu eskizi ukve arsebobs. Tumca, Tu ginda iyo tatuartisti da ara „xelosani“ xatvis codna aucilebelia.
rom yvelaferi martivia. fotografia ar aris marto kargi fotoebis gadaReba, is ajansaRebs adamians mentaluradac, rac stenfordis akademiisa da bevri sxva mecnieruli kvleviT dasturdeba.
_fotoSopis codna fotografiaSi aucilebelia?
_ar aris aucilebeli, SegiZliaT kargi fotoebi gadaiRoT firiTac da saerTod ar daamuSavoT.
_romeli ufro rTulia,
_ramdenad stresulia tatuartistis profesia?
_sawyis etapze rTuli Cans. yvelaferi Senzea damokidebuli: xatva, gadaReba, piari socmediaSi, marketingi _ es yvelaferi gstresavs da iRlebi, Tumca raRac momentSi eCvevi da siamovnebiT keTebas iwyeb. _rogor SevarCioT tatuartisti?
_pirvel rigSi, mniSvnelovania icode, daaxloebiT risi daxatva ginda. Semdeg unda gamoikvlio tatuartistis gamocdileba da daaTvaliero misi namuSevrebi. rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania, unda gaesaubro, raTa Tavad Seafaso igi. _mozardebSi xSiria tatus gakeTebis survili, rasac Tan axlavs uari mSoblebisgan. ra rCevas miscemdiT maT?
_rogorc vTqvi, pirveli tatu 16 wlis asakSi gavikeTe, Tumca sxvas ar vurCev, radgan raRac momentSi sananebeli gvixdeba. amitom mSoblebi da Svilebi unda SeTanxmdnen. SesaZlebelia alternativebis SeTavazebac.
_ras gulisxmobT?
_Tu mozards mainc surs tatuireba, SeuZlia scados „henas tatu“, romelic droebiTia da saSualod 20 dRe Zlebs. amiT mozardi Tavis arCevans riskebis gareSe gamocdis. _ra datvirTva aqvs tatus saqarTveloSi?
_sxvadasxva mizeziT sazogadoebaSi masTan dakavSirebiT jer kidev uaryofiTi damokidebuleba Warbobs. yvelaferi araqarTuli da aratradiciuli garyvnilebad, uxamsobad da miuReblad miiCneva, Tumca, aseTi ganwyobis miuxedavad, axalgazrdebSi tatus daxatvis msurvelTa raodenoba izrdeba. mariam papiZe
gadaReba Tu damuSaveba? _gadaReba damuSavebaze rTulia.
_TqvenTvis fotoSopis gamoyeneba misaRebia?
_fotoSopiT fotoebis damuSaveba iseve saWiroa, rogorc kvercxis Sewvamde tafis gacxeleba. oRond, mniSvnelovania rom ar gadavamlaSoT da koreqcia gavukeToT Suqsa da ferebs zomierebis farglebSi.
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tradiciul ojaxur sistemaSi, sadac deda mxolod saSinao saqmes asrulebda, mama ki saxlis gareT muSaobda, bavSvebis movla da aRzrda qals ekisreboda. rac, erTi mxriv, mas ar aZlevda karieruli ganviTarebis saSualebas, kacs ki imdenad uzRudavda rols ojaxSi, rom bavSvebs xSirad gaucxoebuli damokidebuleba da SiSi uCndebodaT mamis mimarT. dRes, sabednierod, es tendencia TandaTan icvleba da ojaxi cdilobs Tanabrad gadainawilos valdebulebebi, maT Soris yvelaze mniSvnelovani, bavSvis aRzrda. am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT bavSvTa fsiqologs, ekaterine veSapiZes vesaubre.
_rogor aisaxeba bavSvze mSoblis yuradRebis deficiti?
_aRniSnuli sakiTxi dRes sakmaod aqtualuria, gansakuTrebiT, im SemTxvevebSi, rodesac orive mSobeli aqtiurad aris dakavebuli samsaxuriT. dRes bevri bavSvi ganicdis mSoblebis yuradRebis deficits, rac maT fsiqoemociur mdgomareobaze uaryofiTad aisaxeba. Sedegad, aseT mozardebSi xSirad vxvdebiT Caketilobasa da cud guneba-ganwyobas, rac maT qcevaSic vlindeba.
_iazreben Tu ara mSoblebi sakuTar pasuxismgeblobas mozardis emociurobasTan dakavSirebiT?
_am SemTxvevaSi mSoblebi ramdenime kategoriad SeiZleba davyoT. maT Soris aris iseTi SemTxvevebi, rodesac maT uWirT gaiazron da Seafason Svilis emociebi. Sesabamisad, isini ver xedaven problemis mogvarebis saWiroebas. Tumca, sabednierod, mSobelTa didi nawili iazrebs, rom bavSvs aqvs problema da, Sesabamisad, iwyeben masze reagirebas. am SemTxvevaSi Cven, fsiqologebi, vafasebT bavSvis mdgomareobas, vsazRvravT mis saWiroebebs, gavdivarT konsultacias mSoblebTan, rac gvexmareba, xeli SevuwyoT maT ukeT aRiqvan
problema. _ramdenad sworad migaCniaT drois arqonis gamo bavSvi aRizardos bebia-babuasTan an ZiZasTan? _msgavsi SemTxvevebi xSirad fiqsirdeba. Cemi azriT, yvela adamiani, bavSvis cxovrebaSi misTvis gankuTvnil rols unda asrulebdes. aseT SemTxvevaSi ZiZa, iseve, rogorc bebia-babua, ar unda iTavsebdes mSoblis rols. xSirad, rodesac ded-mama muSaobs, SvilTan gasatarebeli dro SezRudulia. Sesabamisad, Tavs iCens mSobelsa da Svils Soris komunikaciis nakleboba. rac urTierTobis cvlilebaze aisaxeba. rig SemTxvevebSi, mSobeli bavSvis sijiutes uCivis, radgan masze metad is ZiZasa an sxva, mis aRzrdaSi aqtiurad CarTul pirs ujerebs. aqedan gamomdinare, vfiqrob, mniSvnelovania, mSoblebi kargad acnobierebdnen TavianT rols, rodesac saqme bavSvis aRzrdaSi maT aqtiur CarTulobas exeba. _xSirad mogmarTaven Tu ara msgavsi problemiT? _aRniSnul problemas, sakmaod xSirad vxvdebiT. sasiamovnoa, rodesac mSoblebi iReben gadawyvetilebas, mimarTon fsiqologs, raTa ukeT gaerkvnen problemis arsSi da moiZion gzebi, Tu rogor daexmaron sakuTar Svils.
_aris Tu ara skola is institucia romelic, fsiqologiur sakiTxebze momaval Taobas unda aZlevdes ganaTlebas?
_fsiqoganaTlebis miwodeba yvela TaobisTvis erTnairad mniSvnelovania, radgan is xels uwyobs cnobierebis amaRlebas. dRes mravali fsiqosocialuri servisi aris xelmisawvdomi, ris Sesaxebac, vfiqrob, mniSvnelovania informacia hqondeT, rogorc bavSvebsa da mozardebs, ise mSoblebsa da maswavleblebs. skola aRniSnuli saxis informaciis miwodebisaTvis erT-erTi saukeTeso adgilia. Cemi azriT, sasargeblo iqneboda, Tu saswavlo periodis ganmavlobaSi dros gamoyofdnen mentalur janmrTelobaze saubrisaTvis. mariam kakalaSvili
merab dvaliSvili, Sereuli orTabrZolis qarTveli artisti, romelic monawileobs Ultimate Fighting Championship-Si (UFC), xSirad ganixileba karg sportsmenad ramdenime mizezis gamo:` teqnikuri unari: dvaliSvili cnobilia Sereul orTabrZolebSi (MMA), romelic moicavs dartymas, greplingisa da Widaobis unarebs. samuSao eTika: igi aRiarebulia Tavisi Zlieri samuSao eTikiT da varjiSisadmi discipliniT, rac aSkarad Cans oqtagonis SigniT mis warmodgenebSi. dvaliSvilis daundobeli tempi da kondicionireba xSirad aniWebs mas upiratesobas oponentebze. metoqeebis pativiscema: dvaliSvili pativs scems ringze da mis gareT mowinaaRmdegeebs, rac sabrZolo sportSi kargi sportulobis damaxasiaTebeli niSania. brZolis Sedegis miuxedavad, is inarCunebs pativiscemas Tanamemamule konkurentebis mimarT. sazogadoebis CarTuloba: UFC-Si gamosvlebis garda, dvaliSvili TanamSromlobs Tavis gulSematkivrebTan da MMA sazogadoebasTan, rac dadebiTad xels uwyobs sportis zrdasa da ganviTarebas. is monawileobs saTemo RonisZiebebSi, urTierTobs fanebTan socialur mediaSi da misabaZi magaliTia damwyebi mebrZolebisTvis. _gmadlobT, rom myavxarT! mSvenivrad vgrZnob Tavs Cemi bolo performansis gamo. es iyo warmoudgeneli mogzauroba da madlobeli var im SesaZleblobebisTvis, romlebic mqonda UFC-Si. me da Cemi gundi warmoudgenlad bevrs vmuSaob-
diT da Sedegmac ar daayovna. _Tqveni brZolis stili cnobilia swrafi tempiT. rogor CamogiyalibdaT es manera?
_intensiurad vvarjiSob. did yuradRebas vaqcev kondicionirebas (ringze myarad dgomas), brZolasa da dartymas. yoveli varjiSis dros maqsimalurad vixarjebi. ase rom, ringze yvelafrisTvis mzad var. mwvrTnelebi da treningis partniorebi damexmarnen stilis ganviTarebaSi.
_risi keTeba gsiamovnebT Tavisufal dros?
_ojaxTan da megobrebTan erTad drois gatareba. aseve miyvars axali kerZebis Seswavla da momzadeba. samzareulo Cemi gatacebaa, mamSvidebs iq eqsperimentebis Catareba. garda amisa, miyvars gare aqtivobebi, rogorebicaa: laSqroba da Tevzaoba. CemTvis mniSvnelovania balansi brZolis miRma.
_aris Tu ara raime, risi Tqmac gsurT Tqveni TayvanismcemlebisTvis?
_madlobas vuxdi Cems yvela gulSematkivars mxardaWerisTvis. maT gareSe ar viqnebodi iq, sadac dRes var. rac Seexeba moaxloebul orTabrZolebs, me yovelTvis mzad var davupirispirde imas, visac UFC mowinaaRmdeged SemomTavazebs. irakli gagua
romeo beriZes araerTi warmateba aqvs sportSi, kerZod, berZnul-romaul WidaobaSi. is gaxda evropis priziori da olimpiuri TamaSebis viceCempioni 17 wlamdelebSi, msoflios viceCempioni 23 wlamdelebSi da xuTgzis saqarTvelos Cempioni. interviuSi romeo beriZe sakuTar gamocdilebas gviziarebs.
_vin iyo Tqveni inspiraciis wyaro?
_bavSvobidan momwonda da mizidavda sporti. Cemi iniciativiT Semiyvanes Widaobaze 5 wlis asakSi. darbazSi yvelaze patara viyavi. inspiraciad SeiZleba miviCnioT televizorSi nanaxi Widaobebi, rodesac vuyureb-
di, miCndeboda survili, mec sportsmenebis adgilas vyofiliyavi. dRes, roca darbazidan gamovdivar, kmayofili vjdebi televizorTan da siamayiT vuyureb Cems brZolas. bavSvobis ocneba realobad vaqcie. _ra aris Tqveni mTavari mizani?
_Cemi mTavari mizani jerjerobiT saqarTvelos Semdegi wlis turniris Cempionobaa. aseve aqtiurad vemzadebi evropisa da msoflios CempionatebisTvis. survili maqvs gavimarjvo da vasaxelo Cemi qveyana. es yvelaferi araa, minda movemzado olimpiuri TamaSebisTvis. maqsimaluri Sromis Cadebas vapireb da imedi
maqvs, dasaxul miznebs mivaRwev.
_ramdenad rTulia yoveldRiurad varjiSi da datvirTva?
_ra Tqma unda, Zalian rTulia. yoveldRiurad unda moemzado, dReSi samjer an oTxjer unda ivarjiSo. TiToeuli gacdenili dRe ukan gxevs. winsvla da ganviTareba Tu ginda am profesiaSi, sizarmace da varjiSis gacdena dauSvebelia. gasaTvaliswinebelia is faqtic, rom droulad Tu ar daisveneb, egec cudad moqmedebs varjiSze.
_ra sirTuleebi SegxvdaT sportSi?
_iyo periodi, rodesac sofelSi ar arsebobda Widaobis darbazi da mwvrTnelTan, mindia SainiZesTan, saxlSi vvarjiSobdiT. mesame sarTulze iyo sivrce mowyobili, sadac 12 leibi gvqonda. 2019 wels ukve gvqonda sportdarbazi, magram droTa ganmavlobaSi Cvenive keTildReobisTvisa da warmatebisTvis baTumSi gadavediT.
_rodesac Tqveni cxovrebis naxevars uTmobT Tqvens profesias, rogor fiqrobT, ramdenad grCebaT dro piradi cxovrebisTvis?
_piradi cxovrebisTvis dro, SeiZleba iTqvas, saerTod ar mrCeba, rac Zalian rTulia. umetes dros darbazSi da var-
Sida qarTli Widaobis kulturiT gamorCeuli mxarea. mixeil qisiSvili yofili judoka da maswavlebelia goris raionidan. igi ar aris masStaburad cnobili, Tumca adgilobriv doneze cnobilia, gansakuTrebiT ki ufros TaobaSi. sabWoTa kavSiris periodSi gorsa da cxinvalSi ewyoboda turnirebi, romlebSic mixeili asparezobda da is erT-erTi saukeTeso iyo judoSi, aseve Tavisufali da qarTuli stiliT WidaobaSi. gamoirCeoda teqnikurebiTa da siswrafiT. sakmaod tandabali iyo da vinaidan msgavsi turnirebi, umetesad woniTi kategoriebis gareSe imarTeboda, is xSirad Tavisze bevrad didi gabaritebis metoqeebs amarcxebda. es ufro popularuls xdida. mixeil qisiSvili 9 oqrosa da 3 vercxlis medlis mflobelia,
jiSSi vatareb. SejibrebisTvis vemzadebi, radgan ukeTesi momavlisTvis asea saWiro. arasdros mqonda sinanulis gancda es profesia, rom avirCie. ojaxisgan Sors yofna saSinelebaa, faqtobrivad, cxovrebis 80 %-s varjiSs vuTmob.
_Tavisufal dros riTi xarT dakavebuli?
_Tavisufal dros, raoden gasakviric unda iyos, isev sportiT var dakavebuli. hobis doneze vTamaSob fexburTs. aseve ojaxis wevrebTan da sayvarel adamianebTan erTad vatareb dros. Zalian menatreba megobrebTan erTad garToba.
_gqoniaT Tu ara rTuli momentebi karieraSi?
_ki mqonia, megobrebTan erTad TamaSis dros momxvda qva, maSin daaxloebiT 16 wlis viyavi. gavikeTe operacia, ris Sedegadac momiwia erTi weli CamovSorebodi sports, rac CemTvis rTuli iyo. yoveli dRe varjiSiT iwyeboda da warmoudgenlad meCveneboda is dReebi, roca viRviZebdi da varjiSis nacvlad saxlSi miwevda yofna.
_SedarebiT romeli qveynis mowinaaRmdegeebTan giWirT Widaoba?
_miWirs-meTqi, ver vityvi, ubralod gamovarCevdi ruseTisa da iranis nakrebebs, radgan Zlieri gundebi hyavT. _ra rCevas miscemdiT damwyeb sportsmenebs?
_Sromas da, ra Tqma unda, jansaRi wesiT cxovrebas. dasawyisSi yovelTvis aris marcxi, magram ar unda danebde. piriqiT, unda gaZlierde da fexze myarad dadge. me piradad pataraobaSi varjiSis dros, Tu konkurenti migebda, stimuls maZlevda es yvelaferi da ufro vZlierdebodi. moWidaves moTminebac unda SeeZlos. giuli iremaZe
Tumca, garda amisa, kidev bevri turniri aqvs mogebuli. WidaobisTvis Tavis danebebis Semdeg is TiTqmis 50 weli bavSvebs judos xelovnebas sruliad usasyidlod aswavlida. masTan ara mxolod Tavisi soflis ax-
algazrdoba, aramed garSemo mdebare 4 soflidan dadiodnen savarjiSod.
20 wlis daviT danelia saqarTvelos erovnuli universitetis biznesis fakultetis studenti da safexburTo klub „seus“ fexburTelia. TamaSobda saqarTvelos asakobriv nakrebSi. sportsmeni sakuTar miRwevebze gvesaubra.
_ram ganapiroba fexburTisadmi Tqveni interesi?
_Cemi erT-erTi sayvareli fexburTeli ronaldinioa. rodesac mis TamaSs vuyurebdi, mindoda, mec masaviT kargi vyofiliyavi da ezoSi bavSvebTan erTad TamaSis dros xSirad vbaZavdi. 6 wlidan daviwye sportis am saxeobaze siaruli, ramac ufro metad gaamyara Cemi interesi. _rogor moxvdi saqarTvelos erovnuli universitetis safexburTo ligaSi?
_rodesac Cavabare saqarTvelos erovnul universitetSi, xSirad vadevnebdi Tvals futsalis TamaSebs, moviZie informacia da mivedi SesarCev
garda Widaobisa, mixeil qisiSvili dakavebuli iyo soflis meurneobiT. misi miwis nakveTi zustad saokupacio xazis pirasaa. 2011 wlis seqtembris erT dRes, rodesac is nakveTSi muSaobda, moulodnelad Tavze 5 osi separatisti daadga. mixeili warmoSobiT naxevrad osia da ena esmoda. miuxedavad axsnisa, rom mas araferi dauSavebia, separatistebma masze iZalades. SaSxanis kondaxiT miayenes dazianebebi muclis areSi da iaraRis muqariT pirutyvTan erTad Tan waiyvanes. osur sofel xelCuamde is fexiT atares, saidanac cxinvalis cixeSi gadaiyvanes. osebi, savaraudod, gasamrjelos iRebdnen qarTveli patimrebis miyvanaSi, Tumca amjerad maT ar gaumarTlaT da jildos nacvlad didi sayveduri ergoT.
cixis ufrosma, romelic cxinvalSi erT-erTi gavleniani piri iyo, mixeili icno. aRmoCnda, rom es adamiani Widaobis didi qomagi iyo da qisiSvilis asparezoba nanaxi hqonda. cixis sportul darbazSi, sadac gamoCenili osi sportsmenebTan erTad mixeilis fotoc iyo gamokruli, vinaidan is naxevrad osia. cixis ufrosma jariskacebs didi usayvedura. man sportsmeni sadilad dapa-
turze. ase amarCies da mas Semdeg grZeldeba Cemi safexburTo kariera. _ras urCevdi damwyeb moTamaSeebs?
_cxovrebaSi SeiZleba Sexvde sxvadasxva gamowvevebs, gansakuTrebiT, sportul karieraSi. arsebobs stereotipebi, romlebic modis ufrosi Taobidan. ver xvdebian, Tu ramxela warmatebas SegiZlia miaRwio sayvareli saqmianobiT. xSirad SeiZleba ver igrZno ojaxis mxardaWera. amitom damwyeb moTamaSeebs vurCev, rom bevri iSromon, Tavi ar dazogon, iyvnen mizandasaxulni da mihyvnen TavianT survilebs. _samomavlod ras apirebT? _pirvel rigSi, vapireb, rom seus safexburTo CempionatSi gavimarjvo. Semdgom ucxoeTSi msurs karieris gagrZeleba. maqvs ramdenime SemoTavazeba, romlebic ganxilvis etapzea. jer ganaTlebis miReba da Semdeg sportuli karieris ganviTareba minda. _saqarTvelo evropis Cempionatze gavida, ras gvetyvi am sakiTxze? _es aris istoriuli movlena, romelsac Taobebi elodnen. am dRem gaaerTiana mTeli eri. am warmatebaSi didi wvlili miuZRvis nakrebis TiToeul wevrs. izolda WumburiZe
tiJa. uTxra, rom axsovda misi gamosvlebi da did pativs scemda. meore diliT mixeili avtomobiliT iq miiyvanes, saidanac gaitaces. cixis ufrosma scada, rom misTvis warTmeuli pirutyvic daebrunebina, Tumca es veRar moxerxda, radgan osebma saqoneli daxoces.
mixeilis sportulma saxelma da avtoritetma osi separatistebisganac ki daimsaxura pativiscema. ase rom, arseboben qisiSvilis msgavsi adamianebi, romlebic ar arian olimpielebi da ar uaspareziaT saerTaSoriso sarbielze, Tumca mainc sportis legendebad rCebian. giorgi mecxvariSvili
saqarTveloSi fexburTi popularuli sportia. Cvenma brZolam, Sromam, erTianobam, Sedegi gamoiRo da didi Sromis Sedegad Cveni erovnuli nakrebi evropis Cempionatze iTamaSebs. Tumca, qarTul fexburTSi kvlavac uamravi problema arsebobs. ar aris mowesrigebuli savarjiSo moednebi, darbazebi, safexburTo inventari. bevri niWieri fexburTeli gvezrdeba, magram elementaruli pirobebis ararsebobis gamo umetesoba ikargeba, iReben travmebs, uqrebaT motivacia. safexburTo akademiaTa raodenoba sakmarisi ar aris. qarTveli fexburTelis saSualo xelfasi 800 laria da xSirad misi gadaxdac ver xerxdeba. am yvelafris mizezi arasakmarisi finansebia, rac yvela qarTuli gundis problemaa. mTavari damnaSave qarTuli klubebia, romlebic, garda sponsorebisa, federaciisganac finansdebian. saWiroa swori menejmenti. samwuxarod, zogi klubis prezidenti sakuTar finansur keTildReobaze ufro zrunavs, zogs mmarTvelobis araswori forma aqvs arCeuli. magaliTad, axalgazrda niWieri moTamaSeebis damatebas urCevniaT veteranTa mowveva. maT maRali xelfasi unda dauniSnon, ris gamoc iwyeba finansuri garRveva da klubebi
mxolod 15 wlis iyo, rodesac 2018 wlis qalTa Cempionatis saukeTeso fexburTeli gaxda. 2023 wels ki saqarTvelos fexburTis federaciam mas qveynis saukeTeso qali fexburTelis tituli mianiWa. aqvs rogorc saqarTveloSi, ise sazRvargareT mraval gundSi TamaSis gamocdileba. dRes saqarTvelos qalTa erovnuli nakrebisa da gund „kvartlis“ fexburTelia. naTia danelia interviuSi sakuTar gamocdilebasa da warmatebis formulas gviziarebs.
_rogor gadawyviteT gamxdariyaviT fexburTeli?
_Cems bavSvobaSi mamas televizorSi mudmivad fexburTi hqonda CarTuli. Tavidan bevr rames ver vigebdi, magram am sportma Cemi yuradReba miiq-
xelfass veRar ixdian. xandaxan fexburTelebi anazRaurebas ramdenime Tve ver iReben da gundidan midian. gavixsenoT „qobuleTis Suquras“ SarSandeli SemTxveva. gunds elementaruli samwvrTnelo bazac ar hqonda, saTamaSod da savarjiSod baTumSi uwevda Casvla. fexburTelebi xelfass ver iRebdnen da gundidan midiodnen. Suqura im droisTvis Cempionatis bolo adgilze iyo da gadarCenisTvis ibrZoda. moTamaSeebi aRar hyavda da moedanze 16-18 wlis gamoucdeli bavSvebis gamoyvana uwevda. Sedegad, umaRlesi ligidan gavarda. am krizisis gamo is meoTxe ligaSic veRar TamaSobs da „rukidanac gaqra“. analogiuri problemebia sxva gundebSic. erTaderTi, rac damamSvidebel faqtad SegviZlia moviSvelioT, aris is, rom wlebis win am mxriv gacilebiT uaresi mdgomareoba iyo. saba bendeliani (safexburTo klub „samguralis“ yofili fexburTeli):
_Cemi karieris manZilze bevr gundSi miTamaSia. am drois ganmavlobaSi Semxvda problemebi, romlebic xels miSlida ganviTarebaSi. pirvel rigSi, infrastruqtura _ Tavi, rom davaneboT cud moednebsa da mindvris safars, varjiSebis Semdeg elementarulad wylis gadavlebis SesaZleblobac ar mqonda. zogi
cia da Zalian momewona. Semdeg vxedavdi ezoSi biWebs, romlebic yoveldRe TamaSobdnen fexburTs da gadavwyvite, mec mecada.
_bavSvobaSi romel klubSi TamaSze ocnebobdiT?
_dRemde vocnebob, rom odesme barselonas qalebis klubSi movxvde.
_ra warmatebebs miaRwieT klubur karieraSi?
_vTamaSobdi 35-e skolis gundSi, Tbilisis „TbilisSi“, „norC dinamosa“ da „nikeSi“, sadac sul saprizo adgilebze gavdiodiT. 2018 wels „nikesTan” erTad movipove qalTa ligis
Cempionis tituli. sazRvargareT vTamaSobdi aziur klub „sogdianaSi“, sadac superTasis mflobeli gavxdi.
_ra emociebi gqondaT, rodesac pirvelad gamogiZaxes erovnul nakrebSi?
_es Cemi erT-erTi didi ocneba iyo. 16 wlis viyavi, rodesac nakrebSi levan bajeliZem gamomiZaxa. saocari emociebi da sixaruli dameufla. debiuti daniis nakrebis winaaRmdeg Sedga. Tavidan Zalian vnerviulobdi da dabneuli viyavi, radgan saukeTeso fexburTelebTan erTad TamaSi didi pasuxismgebloba iyo, magram raRac etapis
klubis saerTo sacxovrebelSi iseTi antisanitaria iyo, erTi Ramec ver gaCerdeboda adamiani, amitom miwevda binis daqiraveba sxvadasxva qalaqSi, zogjer naTesavebTan vrCebo-
di.
aqedan gamomdinare, Cndeboda meore problema _ xelfasebi. kontraqtis mixedviT 600 lari mqonda anazRaureba, magram iyo Tveebi, roca ar mixdidnen da fulis sesxeba miwevda. kidev erTi problema samedicino personali iyo. TamaSze fexi movitexe da araswori mkurnalobiT uaress mdgomareobamde mimiyvanes. klubma Cemi operacia ver daafinansa, Cemi saxsrebiT ki amis gakeTeba ver movaxerxe. yvelafers esec daemata, motivacia davkarge da rTuli periodis Semdeg sabolood
Semdeg es yvelaferi gadavlaxe. _romelia Tqveni yvelaze dasamaxsovrebeli matCi? _aseTi ramdenimea, maT Soris aris asakobriv nakrebSi SvedeTis winaaRmdeg gamarTuli matCi, sadac goli gavitane da es TamaSi 1:1 davasruleT. swored am SedegiT SevZeliT evropis Cempionatis „elit raundSi” gasvla. meore, vfiqrob, rom erovnul nakrebSi debiutia. xolo yvelaze gamorCeuli emociebi luqsemburgTan SexvedraSi gvqonda, sadac pirveli taimi wavageT angariSiT 0:2, magram meore taimSi mdgomareoba radikalurad SevcvaleT da gavimarjveT angariSiT 4:2. am gamarjvebam dagvarwmuna, rom Cven namdvilad SegviZlia didi miznebisaken swrafva.
_vin aris TqvenTvis misabaZi fexburTeli?
_Cemi kerpi lionel mesia, radgan is fexburTis RmerTia, rasac msoflio aRiarebs. sul vcdilob, mas mivbaZo, magram mibaZo mesis Zalian rTulia. _rogor SeafasebdiT qarTuli qalTa fexburTis ganviTarebas?
_vfiqrob, qalTa fexburTi sagrZnoblad viTardeba, risi mizezic erovnuli nakrebis mier miRweuli warmatebebia.
gadavwyvite, kariera naadrev asakSi damemTavrebina. samwuxarod, Cem msgavsad bevrs daumTavrebia kariera. bevri niWieri axalgazrdaa travmas Sewiruli. Cveni qveynisTvis mniSvnelovania, rom msgavsi SemTxvevebi aRmoifxvras. axalgazrdebs mieceT motivacia, rom warmatebuli fexburTelebi gaxdnen. miuxedavad amisa, ganviTarebis gzas vadgavarT, radgan wlebis win gacilebiT uaresi mdgomareoba gvqonda. axalgazrdebma daiwyes jansaRi cxovreba, fexburTis TamaSi da Cven unda davexmaroT maT umaRles mwvervalze asvlaSi.“
miuxedavad imisa, rom amdeni problemaa qarTul fexburTSi, mainc SegviZlia CavTvaloT, rom ganviTarebis gzaze vdgavarT. axalgazrda moTamaSeebi disciplinas swavloben da momavalSi ufro daixvewebian. klubebma finansebi sworad unda gankargon, moeSvan sakuTar jibeze zrunvas da is resursi, rac aqvT, qarTul fexburTs moaxmaron. vfiqrob arakeTilsindisieri xelmZRvanelebis adgili fexburTSi ar aris, evropis Cempionatze gasvlam didi biZgi unda misces qarTul fexburTs. es unda iyos dasawyisi im didebis, rasac saqarTvelo imsaxurebs. saba aznauriSvili
gundSi yvela Tavisi saqmis profesionalia. axali mTavari mwvrTneli, irisi antmani yvelafers akeTebs nakrebis sakeTildReod, man mogvca motivacia da dagvarwmuna, rom umaRles doneze SegviZlia TamaSi. swored saqarTvelos erovnuli nakrebis mier miRweul TiToeul warmatebas SeuZlia daainteresos rac SeiZleba meti bavSvi fexburTiT, raRac doneze Cven es SevZeliT da kidev gavagrZelebT qalTa fexburTis ganviTarebas. _ras gegmavT samomavlod? _axla Cemi mizani klubur doneze Cempionobaa. sanakrebo doneze ki vemzadebi da velodebi erTa ligis momdevno TamaSebs, sadac jgufidan gasvla gvinda da amisTvis yvelafers gavakeTebT. _ras urCevT damwyeb fexburTelebs?
_vurCev, rom yvelaferi gaakeTon sakuTari miznebisTvis, ra Tqma unda, martivi araferia. warmatebisken mimaval gzaze uamravi dabrkoleba da kritika SegxvdebaT, Tumca swored es winaRobebi unda gaxdes Tqveni motivaciis wyaro, rac warmatebis miRwevaSi dagexmarebaT.
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