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EDITOR Gp Capt R Vijayakumar ﴾Retd﴿, VSM

READERSHIP OUTREACH Gp Capt Dr R Venkataraman ﴾Retd﴿

Sundar R Vakeeswari M DESIGN D Rajaram, Tayub Refai MADRAS MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION Management Center, New No.240 Pathari Road, ﴾Off Anna Salai﴿, Chennai 600 006 Ph:044‐2829 1133 / Email:mma@mmachennai.org | mandate@mmachennai.org | www.facebook.com/mmachennai

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EDITORIAL

Gp Capt R Vijayakumar (Retd), VSM

Recognizing excellence in management

W

elcome to the 66th Annual General Meeting of the Madras Management Association (MMA). It’s once again my pleasure and

privilege to be associated with another special edition of the digital Business Mandate being released on this momentous occasion.

has significantly enhanced the quality of our services. Among the management fraternity, the MMA Awards for Managerial Excellence is one of the most acclaimed accolades

for

celebrating

leaders

of

businesses,

entrepreneurs and professionals for their all-round performance. It recognizes managerial excellence,

Over the past 66 years, MMA grew from strength to

innovation, service and commitment to stakeholders.

strength to carve a niche for itself as a multidisciplinary

Through these awards, MMA seeks to recognize

group

outstanding business models driven by people who think

focused

on

high

quality

management

programmes, which not only benefited its members but also the public at large. Ranked Number One among its peers from India, MMA is positioned itself to fulfil the

Among the management

vision and mandate laid out by its founding fathers. I

fraternity, the MMA Awards

would like to thank the members of MMA, Past

for Managerial Excellence is

Presidents,

one of the most acclaimed

Managing

Committee

Members

and

Secretarial staff for enabling this achievement. It has been an exciting journey, but a long road remains ahead. With purpose and values, MMA continues to focus on

accolades for celebrating leaders of businesses,

the imperative, discourage unproductive engagements,

entrepreneurs and professionals

and encourage activities that promote managerial

for their all‐round performance.

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differently and are indeed an inspiration to all. The

for the next 30 years, it will cross $30 trillion by 2052.

Award applicants were shortlisted using a unique and

Such prediction is a tall order, indeed. Nonetheless, as

scientific methodology conceived by Deloitte, our

Ruchir Sharma writes in Breakout Nations, “The new rule

consultant for the Award. The winners under each

is to forecast so far into the future that no one will know

category have been selected by an eminent panel of jury.

you got it wrong.”

MMA congratulates the winners of the 20th MMA Awards for Managerial Excellence: Carborundum Universal Ltd., TANFAC Industries Ltd., and NTECL.

2022. I am delighted to present the article on the

The message from the Agnipath episode is that India’s youth must begin to look at self-employment in a serious way. Rather than don the cap of a job seeker, they must learn to be job givers. Equipping our young with necessary skills in a vocation of their choice will help them be self-employed with dignity. It is not out of place to mention here about the mandatory military service (of about three years) that Israeli youth go through. It is one of the most significant factors that Israel

discussion on the theme, “Where from Here is the $5 Trillion Economy” with eminent panellists on 23rd June

Agnipath

turned

Notwithstanding the prediction, we organized a

into

a

hub

of

innovation

and

discussion in this issue with an embedded video. Please read on and watch the video for thought-provoking views on the theme.

The Context for Gender in Leadership? The term “women leaders” is often used without any context. I think there are only two categories of leaders: Good and Bad. Leadership has absolutely nothing to do with gender.

The way both genders are wired and

conditioned creates certain strengths and weaknesses.

entrepreneurship. It is also worth noting that the young

In this context, MMA is organizing a discussion

Israelis—after their compulsory military service—are

under Women Business Forum on the theme, “Be the

often inclined to pursue higher education.

heroine of your life…”

India’s

Agnipath programme too can become a similar transformative force. It is imperative that we create a world-class education system in India to meet these

Ms Gangapriya Chakraverti, Managing Director, Ford Business Solutions—India, will be in conversation with Ms Babita Baruah, Managing Partner, GTB India.

challenges and aspirations of our youth. In this context, MMA organized an event on the theme “Creating a

Click to view the event details.

World-class Higher Education System in India” by Mr K

With another hectic year around, there are definitely

V Ramani, Founder and Chancellor, Sai University on

better days ahead!

Wednesday, 6th July 2022 at MMA Management Center. Happy Reading! Please click to view and get inspired.

A $30 Trillion Economy? The Indian economy will reach $30 trillion by 2052, according to Mr Piyush Goyal. The size of the economy is currently around $3 trillion. If it grows by 8% per year 6

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Mr M R Sivaraman, Former Revenue Secretary, Government of India, Mr Arun Kumar, Malcolm S Adiseshiah Chair Professor Institute of Social Sciences, New Delhi, and Mr K Kumar, Sr. Partner & Leader, Consumer & Industrial Products Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu India LLP share their insights on the question of the 5 trillion dollar economy.

M R Sivaraman

G

ross

Estimating GDP correctly is a challenge. For

Domestic

Product

(GDP) is the value addition made

within

the

geographical limits of a country. Gross

National

Product

(GNP)

includes the value addition of the country’s GDP plus

example, take the price of paddy. Should we take MSP price at the factory gate or at the market where we go and buy? Interest is also a factor income. The street vendor who goes to the money lender close by takes 1000 rupees in the morning and agrees to pay 1100 rupees in the evening. This is much higher than the rate of interest of the government of India. Then we have

that which is made outside the country. GDP takes different forms. It is estimated at factor

prices. Factor price means the goods and services and

I had running battles with

the taxes attached to them. Normally, we talk about

economists in this issue. I'm not

GDP at market prices so that everyone understands.

an economist. I did an exercise,

Then there is GDP with reference to a particular base

when I was in the government,

year. It is 2011-12 for India.

with my economists and they found our GDP was underesti‐

GDP all over the world follows the system of accounts developed by almost all the chief statisticians

mated.

of most of the countries. India was also a member of this UN committee. It has a 600-page manual that goes into the details of how each account has to be properly

~ M R Sivaraman

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GDP at purchasing power parity. When you compare the

deficit and the tax to GDP ratio will all go wrong. It has

GDP of nations—that is the GDP at our rupee account

a lot of implications for the economic policy.

divided by the dollar value, then it gives a different picture. The GDP of India at the beginning of this year

Black Economy and GDP

would have been higher than the GDP now—the rupee

In 2008, the then Finance Minister, the late Mr

has depreciated with respect to dollar. India's GDP in

Pranab Mukherjee, asked the National Council of

terms of purchasing power parity in 2021 was $8.9

Applied Economic Research, the National Institute of

trillion; For China, it was $24.1 trillion and the US $20.9

Public Finance and Policy and the Indian Institute of

trillion. India is at number three in the world.

Financial Management to do a detailed exercise

Estimating the GDP of India is a very complex issue. A

independently on black money. They estimated that it

doctor is valued at 1000 rupees a year whereas a

was between 72% and 76% of our GDP.

government doctor is getting 8000 rupees a month. An egg has been valued at one paisa per egg.

Professor Arun Kumar, in an article that he wrote in DNA in 2019 estimated that India’s black money was

I had running battles with economists in this issue.

144 lakh crores. We do not really know how much of

I'm not an economist. I did an exercise, when I was in

this is in GDP. I studied a street vendor next door to my

the government, with my economists and they found

house who sells breakfast, lunch and tea. Her net

our GDP was underestimated. I spoke about this up to

income was 7500 to 10,000 rupees a day. She has

the level of the then PM Vajpayee. He constituted a

bought a 50 lakh worth of flat next to my flat. If all of

committee to study this. Based on its findings, India’s

these are captured correctly, probably we may be near

GDP in that year was revised upward by 18%.

$4 or 4.5 Tn already.

If GDP

of India is underestimated, a lot of things like the fiscal 10

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Savings Rate

 There are problems in the

Be that as it may, taking the GDP of 3.5 trillion

international financial system.

dollars figure , we have to make good 1.5 trillion dollars to reach the figure of five trillion dollars. Are we in a

We are talking about the US

position to achieve this?

heading for a recession. The interest rates are going up in

Now, valuation in the country is dependent on investment, which is dependent on savings. Our savings

the US. The Russia‐Ukraine war

rate in the last few years has been very unsatisfactory.

has created unusual inflationary

In 2017, it was 31.3%; in 2021, it has come down to 28%.

levels the world over, which is

Compare it with China's 45.5%.

also percolating into India.

Savings divided by the capital output ratio gives the rate of growth of an economy. That's a standard formula. In the case of India, it should be around 4.5, which means we are growing at about seven percent.

14 states in India have a per capita income of more than 3000 dollars. Bihar has a population of 10 crores.

To touch five trillion dollars with this rate of savings, we may take seven years. Now, many state governments

What is happening in Bihar? They are willing to

are making heroic attempts to reach one trillion dollar

spend a lot of money on caste census but they don't

economy in their states.

focus on mapping the MSME sector there to find out how they can grow. There are policy constraints. Some

High Defence Expenditure

state governments like Tamil Nadu, UP, Maharashtra,

Secondly, our defence expenditure is increasing. We

Karnataka and Telangana are trying to move forward.

can't call defence expenditure non-productive, because,

We have to also take into account internal

defence by itself gets value addition. Indigenisation

disturbances and natural disasters. The International

leads to employment and value addition within the

Meteorological Organization has estimated the loss of

country. The third factor which is eating away our

India in 2020 on account of natural disasters to be 6.3

resources is periodic elections. One general election

Bn $. In rebuilding this, there will be value addition but

costs 4000 crores and one state election costs 200 to

we are rebuilding an asset which has been lost. This is

300 crores depending upon the size of the state and its

the magnitude of disaster.

complexity. Of course, there is value addition in elections and people are employed in the process. But it could have been used for many other purposes.

International Problems There are problems in the international financial system. We are talking about the US heading for a

Regional Disparity

recession. The interest rates are going up in the US. The

Then we have serious regional disparities in income.

Russia-Ukraine war has created unusual inflationary

In the case of Bihar, the per capita income in 2019-20

levels the world over, which is also percolating into

is Rs 50,733. In Goa, it is 5.2 lakhs and Delhi, 5.6 lakhs.

India and which we are not able to tackle. These are

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some of the important factors which may obstruct our

correcting the social injustice that has taken place

movement towards multi trillion dollar economy.

within the system. Even in the United States, Obama gave free cell phones to a lot of poor people.

Falling Labour Participation Another worrying feature of the Indian economy is the falling labour participation rate. It came down to 40%. As on December 21, it reached 45.7 but still it is very low. The reason is because of low participation of women in the workforce; it is probably one of the lowest in the world at 19%. Bangladesh has 55% labour participation rate.

Toward the end of the 18th century in the UK, the Lords, Dukes and others joined hands and started giving free bread, free food, free clothing, etc., as part of an agreement. Then ultimately, they realised that they did not give labour for the industries. So, William Pitt, the younger, abolished this when he became Prime Minister and said that people are to be paid according to the work they do.

If people do not come and produce things and they remain idle at home, then how can there be value

Forex Reserves

addition? In the case of Tamil Nadu, I saw a report that

India's forex reserves which were 641 billion

the youth do not want to go for a job. The lowest labour

dollars, have now come below 600 billion dollars. Even

participation of youth is in Tamil Nadu.

these reserves do not fully belong to us. It's not state

There are certain remedial actions being taken by the government. For example, they are now launching a massive program of self-help groups among women. A lot of women get employed or self-employed. I am myself in charge of about 200 self-help groups. Some of them have a turnover of Rs 50,000 a week and some have a turnover of Rs 10,000 rupees a week. They make pickles, bakery products, etc.

I don’t know if this

revenue generated gets added to the GDP estimate calculations.

back. But the rest of the thing called hot money can fly away. Even foreign institutional investors can sell off assets and go back. This once happened in South Korea. So we cannot say that the 500 or 600 billion dollars of forex is a great asset with us.

Disruptive Technologies In the coming years, there is also going to be the things that we see today. We have to compulsorily

The then Prime Minister, Dr Manmohan Singh, once asked me, “If you were the Prime Minister, what would you do?” I said, “The first thing I will do is to raise the minimum wages in this country.” If you increase the wage,

comes through FDI or remittances, which cannot go

disruptive technologies coming and replacing many of

Raise Wages, Cut Freebies

minimum

surplus reserves. That is some amount of reserve that

you

can

also

expect

greater

productivity. A large number of states are going in for freebies which make people a little bit indolent, although we may say that freebies are a matter of

shutdown thermal power plants in the next 20 years because of the climatic change. What happens to the 2.5 million families who depend on mines for livelihood? Because of EV, the automobile sector will suffer. EVs, I am told, have 20 moving parts compared to 2000 moving parts in conventional vehicles. Just like cell phones replaced landlines, EVs will definitely replace conventional automobiles. There will be social problems when people are displaced.

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 The consumer confidence is

These are going to be some of the major obstacles that we will come across in our march towards making

now still at around 75. In

this country a five trillion dollar or ten trillion dollar

January 2020, just before the

economy.

pandemic, it was 104. Capacity utilization for the organized sector has reached only around

Prof Arun Kumar

T

he

pandemic

and

70% as per RBI data.

the

Ukraine war have created continuing problems for

the world economy, including the

~ Prof Arun Kumar

Indian economy. China's economy has been hurt very badly by the extreme lockdowns that they have had. Since China is the manufacturing hub of

28, we will reach five trillion dollar economy, assuming

the world, supply chains have been disrupted.

that the dollar to rupee parity stays at 80 Rupees to the dollar and inflation is 6% for the entire period.

A Proxy War

If we grow at 12 percent, then we will reach it in

The Ukraine war is a proxy war between two

2026-27 and at 14%, we will reach in 2025-26. These are

superpowers. On the one hand, we have Russia which

some of the projections. But that is going to be very

is a superpower and on the other hand, we have Ukraine

tough because starting at 4% to get to 10% requires 16

supported by EU, NATO and USA. There are sanctions

percent real growth of the economy, which has never

on Russia and we are headed towards a new cold war

been achieved. So in other words, by 25-26, it's almost

between these two blocs (Russia, China and friendly

impossible to reach five trillion dollar target.

countries versus Ukraine, EU and USA). The old cold war was ideological between a communist socialist bloc and a capitalist bloc. This time, both are capitalist blocs. The struggle is for dominance. The US has already said that China poses a bigger danger to them than Russia. So the western powers will continue to move against

What are the impediments to the growth of the economy?

The Bleeding Unorganised Sector During the pandemic, we had a huge impact on the unorganized, non-agriculture sector. The consumer

China.

confidence is now still at around 75. In January 2020,

Shift the Paradigm

just before the pandemic, it was 104. Capacity

What we follow today in India is called the supply side policy paradigm. This needs to change. From 201617 onwards, the rate of growth was about eight percent and then it declined pre-pandemic to about 3.1 percent quarterly growth rate. If we grow at 10%, then in 2027-

utilization for the organized sector has reached only around 70% as per RBI data. After the pandemic, it's now clawing its way back. At this low capacity utilization, we can’t expect the investment rate to suddenly go up.

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The unorganized non-agriculture sector has been

Russians and this will create further issues for India,

declining. At least five percent of the units closed down,

because India's trade with Russia will get disrupted. We

as five percent demand shifted from the unorganized

cannot make payments in our banks in the normal way,

sector to the organized sector. Hindustan Lever’s annual

because of the sanctions. Many problems will arise in

report talks about this demand shift and why the

trade and finance.

market share for Hindustan Lever has gone up. The small sector is unable to deal with the problems they are facing. They are unable to avail input tax credit. The demand

is

shifting

due

to

a

combination

of

demonetisation, GST and the pandemic.

The US in the last quarter had a negative rate of growth. People are worried that the US economy can slip into recession. It's a likelihood, and there is the stagflation—high inflation with very low rate of growth.

Inequalities and Inflation

We have unemployment, under-employment and

Recent surveys by agencies including Credit Suisse

disguised employment. Our labour force participation

and Oxfam have shown that inequalities are growing.

rate is low. 94% of the unorganised sector earns less

When inequality grows, mass demand does not rise and

than Rs 10,000 per month. Though external factors are

we are dependent on investment to fulfill the demand.

beyond our control, internal factors are in government

The investment and savings have been quite low in

control.

India.

What should the government do?

India's rate of inflation has been very high. The wholesale price index has been about ten percent, for

• It must change its policy from supply side paradigm to demand side paradigm.

more than 12 months. The CPI, the Consumer Price

• Focus on employment generation both in rural

Index has been growing at above 6% for the last 4 to 5

and urban areas by creating schemes. Rather

months. At a high rate of inflation, poor people and the

than massive highway projects, we need small

unorganized sector get impacted and demand further

projects in rural and urban areas that will

declines. There are now supply bottlenecks and

generate employment.

commodity and metal prices have risen. The shipping

• We need to boost the micro sector of which

and freight rates are rising. Due to shortage of

there are 6 crore units. In small and medium,

containers, containers get stuck at ports, so the

we have 6 lakh units and in large, we have

transport costs are rising.

6000 units. 97.5% of MSME employment is in

Fuel costs are rising as Russia is a big supplier of energy and because of sanctions, those supplies could not come to Europe. Fertilizer prices have also gone up. Ukraine and Russia supply food items like wheat and

micro sector. This, and the small sector are now in trouble. Hence the unemployment problems. • Tax the wealthy through wealth tax. • Increase direct tax rates and reduce indirect

sunflower oil.

taxes. GST should be made the last point tax. Finance is getting highly disturbed because of the sanctions on banks and other financial sector of the

• There will be new viruses coming; we have to be aware of these and plan measures in place.

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• Make use of technology in managing viruses

The consumer confidence is

now still at around 75. In January 2020,

and in overall growth.

just before the pandemic, it was 104. Capacity utilization for the organized

K Kumar

I

company

sector has reached only around 70% as

employs 100 people in its fifth

per RBI data. While we talk about 5Tn

year, in its 40th year, it

$ economy, we must also be

f

an

American

employs about 800 people. The employment gets multiplied by 8

times. Also, we must note that in the 40th year of a

concerned by the quality of such economy.

company, the technology also grows substantially. So productivity per employee must have gone up, not just by 8 times but in multiples of 8 times. If you compare

~ Mr K Kumar

this scenario with an Indian company, it grows by just 1.4 times in 8 years. We call it as dwarfism. occupy a significant place in the GDP affect

• Our entrepreneurs are, no doubt, aspirational.

them. We must help them to find markets in

But we do not give them an ecosystem to grow. • We must have many companies creating

India. • While we talk about 5Tn $ economy, we must also be concerned by the quality of such

wealth rather than a few.

economy. MSMEs must be groomed in such an

• We must see if there is headroom for MSMEs

economy, like how Japan groomed companies

to grow. If we compare India with US, China and Germany, we can find that our MSMEs account for 30% of our GDP. In China, it is

like Citizen and Sony. • Right now, we put all MSMEs in one bloc and focus mainly on their skilling. We have to

55%, it is 42% in the US and 48% in Germany.

treat them differently as some of them may be

• China has half the number of MSMEs as India.

already skilled and they may need some other

That shows that we have many dwarfs and

form

they impact the economy.

our

need

be

to

sector specific needs and address them. •`China has one village, one product and one

MSMEs to take a larger load than they can actually take. Lack of competitiveness and lack of headroom for them to grow and 18

makers

instance,

international accreditation. We need to look at

their exports; the US MSMEs 30% and 16% in

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saree

For

provided with a market and our spas need

China’s MSMEs contribute to less than 10% of

• We need to question ourselves if we make our

support.

Kanchipuram

• 40% of our exports are done by Indian MSMEs.

Germany

of

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WINNER IN THE MANUFACTURING CATEGORY

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arborundum Universal Limited (CUMI) is part of the 120-year-old Murugappa Group, one of India’s leading business conglomerates. CUMI started as an abrasives

company in 1954. With a focus on value-chain integration, CUMI has expanded its portfolio to become a mines-to-market company with integrated operations that include mining, power generation, fusion, manufacturing, marketing, and distribution. With a legacy of over six decades, CUMI has carefully nurtured and built businesses across geographies and cultures. CUMI operates as a Glocal player – a global vision that preserves local ethos. This vision comes from its deep-rooted commitment to create environments and opportunities that allow local regions to flourish. Whether in India or around the world, these long-standing relationships and networks have enabled CUMI to become what it is today—a leading materials science engineering company. The CUMI network also creates a wealth of opportunities for employees to experiment, learn, innovate, and contribute to business and their communities. CUMI is focused on being a world-class solutions provider in abrasives, electrominerals, industrial ceramics, super refractories, and energy storage materials. The company has a varied end-user industry portfolio and has maintained a steady performance despite volatile operating conditions. CUMI’s consolidated revenue is Rs.3,300 Crores and PAT of Rs.333 Crores for the financial year 2022. Today, it is one of the largest producers of silicon carbide grains worldwide, the largest silicon carbide player in Russia, one of the market leaders in abrasives in India and Russia, the largest electrominerals and abrasives player in India, and the world’s second-largest producer of metallized cylinders. 

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WINNER IN THE SERVICES CATEGORY

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TECL (NTPC Tamil Nadu Energy Company Ltd), a 50:50 Joint Venture Company between NTPC Limited and TANGEDCO is a power station with an

installed capacity of 1500 MW (3x500 MW) situated in Tiruvallur District in Tamil Nadu. Around 71% of the power from NTECL is supplied to Tamil Nadu and the rest to neighboring states like Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala, Telangana, and Pondicherry. It sources coal from Mahanadi Coal fields, Central Coal Fields, Eastern Coal Fields etc. Some of the unique features of NTECL are gas insulated switchyard, pipe conveyor and grab unloader. NTECL is a 100% sea water-based plant with the least area/MW among NTPC plants and a spillage free pipe conveyor of 4km length for transporting coal from port to site. As a power plant set up near the coast, we have had to bear nature’s fury time and again—be it cyclones, floods, and salt water corrosion. We have taken steps to be resilient enough by adapting best practices to deliver quality power to our beneficiaries. Our PAT had doubled in the past two years. Also, since the start of commercial operation of NTECL, dividend was paid to our stakeholders for the first time in 2020-21; dividend payout has more than quadrupled in the subsequent year. NTECL is performing better than the state and private sectors and is inching towards central sector peers in terms of performance. 

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WINNER IN THE MANUFACTURING CATEGORY

D

uring the period from 2010 to 2015, TANFAC was affected by Chinese competition, Thane cyclone damage, debt and high interest burden. It was on

the verge of going into the BIFR fold with a debt of Rs.64 crores (The D/E ratio was around 13.8 times). To turnaround the business, the company took a lot of focussed initiatives, such as: • Improving

productivity

through

best

people

practices, including steering performance-based work culture, rewards, recognitions and man power optimization • Customer Centric Approach • Market penetration of specialty fluorides • Simplification of production processes • Strategized sourcing of input products • Tight control on working capital management • Reduction in finance cost TANFAC collaborated with CPCL, a vendor, and highlighted the possibility of reducing the cost of flaking at CPCL and melting at our end. This resulted in a win-win situation, helping CPCL to reduce their price to us substantially. These steps helped not only in turning around the company when the odds were unfavourable but also placed the company back on a far better growth trajectory with better Balance Sheet and acceptable ratios. 

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XVI CUB Shri V Narayan Memorial Lecture by Dr T V Somanathan, IAS, Finance Secretary, Govt of India . This article is published with the courtesy of Sastra University and City Union Bank.

A

rchitecture is a scientific discipline. The word

Bretton Woods twins, which were the World Bank or

architecture evokes a sense of planning, order

The International Bank for Reconstruction and

and form. There are many styles of architecture

Development, and The International Monetary Fund

—Victorian, Mughal, Chinese, Chettinad, Gothic and so

(IMF) known colloquially as the Bank and the Fund.

on. Each has some distinct and identifiable features,

These were the first creations post the World War,

which most common people and certainly connoisseurs

though they were created slightly before the end of the

can identify. From approximately 1944, there was a

Second World War.

certain pattern of economic arrangements, which could reasonably be termed an economic architecture. There were the three blocks of economies in the world: the first world that had the market or capitalist countries; the second world, which had the communist countries; and then the third world, which had countries like India, that were generally poor, either under colonialism or recently decolonised. The first world’s institutional structure was also the one that the third world willynilly had to conform to or be part of. We were not actually the ones designing our architecture.

the UNICEF, UNESCO, The Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), the World Health Organization (WHO) and so on. But there was a difference. In the Bank and the Fund, the governance structure was not ‘one country, one vote.’ It was one dollar of share capital and one vote, which is similar to that of a private sector company. In the other UN specialized agencies, it was one country, one vote.

had bigger shareholdings and hence a bigger say. The

In that architecture, there were the so-called 24

powerful, well-funded, UN specialised agencies such as

So in the Bank and the Fund, the richer countries

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Apart from these two, there were several other

disadvantage of this structure was that the third

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world's views were not given due importance. The advantage was that the first world countries funded these organisations amply, because they were confident

of their ability to control the organizations they

The three organizations—the

funded. Quite naturally, the western donor countries

World Bank, the IMF and GATT

were much more comfortable with the Bank and the

or later, the WTO—had a largely

Fund and also with UNESCO, UNICEF, WHO and FAO.

common set of beliefs on the methods by which developing

The funding levels of these two sets of agencies,

countries should develop.

though they were approximately on par initially, diverged enormously over the years. While these two became very powerful, the other UN specialised agencies were continuously strapped for budgets. It is all very well for someone to say that I want to be an equal member of an organization. It is sometimes more useful to be an unequal member of a stronger

Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which later was converted in 1995 into the World Trade Organization (WTO). In fact, during the Bretton Woods conference, it was agreed to create the World Trade

organization.

Organization. It was supposed to be one of the three

The Role of GATT/WTO

institutions that was to be created in 1944. But

The third important element in the global economic

sufficient agreement was not reached on the shape of

architecture was initially known as the General

the WTO and it was created nearly 50 years later in 1995.

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The GATT resulted in a steady reduction of tariffs

It is not known to many people

across many countries between 1994 and the creation

that India was a participant in

of the WTO. Customs duties on imports fell in a secular

the Bretton Woods conference

manner between 1945 and 1995 and fell even further

in Bretton Woods, New

after the creation of the WTO.

Hampshire and British India was

Washington Consensus

represented by Shri K Shanmugam Chetty.

The three organizations—the World Bank, the IMF and GATT or later, the WTO—had a largely common set of beliefs on the methods by which developing countries should develop.

regional institutions of considerable importance, such as the European Economic Community, as it was known

Some of these elements were known as the

then and which later became the European Union.

Washington Consensus and these included that a)

Similarly, there were institutions like the CFA franc in

countries should have free trade with little or no tariff

Western Africa, which was anchored by France. They

barriers; b) there should be free flow of capital across

had a currency union between the French franc and the

national boundaries; c) there should be flexible

CFA franc. The CFA franc was tied at a specific parity

exchange rates; d) there should be a market or market

to the French franc.

driven economy in all of these countries; and that would be the best way forward for development. In some cases, these beliefs were held more strongly

than

warranted

by

either

So effectively these countries were running a French franc currency area and so they didn't have control over the monetary policy. Their interest rates

theoretical

were decided in Paris for most of the ex-French West

foundations or empirical evidence. In some cases, they

Africa. Similarly, there was an Organization of African

were sound prescriptions. Thus, they were a mix of

Unity that became the African Union. However, many

some very well-established sound prescriptions of

of these regional institutions, with the exception of the

universal application and some which are more

European Union, lacked longevity and influence.

debatable. However, the strength of the institutions which backed the Washington consensus meant that many countries in the developing world did follow the advice and prescriptions, albeit to a greater or lesser degree without necessarily having to test each of those principles for their actual correctness or relevance in

India in Bretton Woods The founding of the Bretton Woods institutions roughly coincided with the peak of India's struggle for Independence. The gap between their founding and Indian independence was about three years. It is not known to many people that India was a participant in the Bretton Woods conference in Bretton Woods, New

the circumstances of each of those countries.

Hampshire and British India was represented by Shri K

Regional Institutions

Shanmugam Chetty. So we were there, even though we

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Whether by coincidence or not,

The confidence that was generated by the fall of the Soviet Union and the admission of China into the

when Europe in 2011 to 2013,

international trade and currency systems, instead of

faced severe economic problems and when there was a

generating more confidence, led to a level of overconfidence. The western regulators and central

chance of Greece dropping out

banks, among others, started to deregulate much

of the Eurozone and when Italy

further. This philosophy received a big jolt in 2008

and Portugal were also in

when we had the global financial crisis. It showed up

serious trouble...

the weaknesses of the extreme deregulation version of the post-war economic architecture.

This year, we mark the 75th year of India's independence and it's also approximately 78 years since the start of what can be termed the post-WWII economic architecture. The architecture established then, remained largely intact for over six decades. It was strengthened by the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the subsequent admission of erstwhile communist countries into that architecture. It was further strengthened by the admission of the People's Republic of China which was not even a member of the United Nations for the first 40 to 50 years of its existence, but it was admitted later.

It led to a re-examination of that architecture but it did not fundamentally change it. Nobody felt that the architecture was fundamentally flawed. It looked like there were a few excesses here and there.

IMF’s Change in Thinking The other thing that happened during the aftermath of the global financial crisis was a change in the thinking of the IMF. Till then, when countries ran into serious economic problems, they were the major advocates of austerity. Whether by coincidence or not, when Europe in 2011 to 2013, faced severe economic problems and

Success Leads to Overconfidence

when there was a chance of Greece dropping out of the

In 1995, China became a member of the WTO.

Eurozone and when Italy and Portugal were also in

Viewed from its results till the turn of the century, that

serious trouble, in terms of their ability to service their

is till 2000, one could consider the post-war economic

debts, the IMF, which is traditionally headed by

architecture largely to be a success, because many

somebody from the European Union, changed its

countries moved from poverty to prosperity; others

philosophy and did not advocate austerity as the

moved from dire poverty to less poverty. The

solution.

proportion of poor people in the world declined dramatically. A large numerical share of that decline was in China and India. But there was a decline in many other countries too. Some countries, however, have worsened between the 1940s and now but they are very few.

Then we had a series of other events between 2008 and 2012. There was an unprecedented level of monetary expansion. Creation of money was given a new term—Quantitative Easing (QE). The labelling changed but it was typically what old textbooks would have called, creating money or injecting money supply.

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When this massive expansion happened, it seemed to

The Covid, Galwan and Russia‐

settle things down. A lot of things calmed down and

Ukraine war have created

the crisis receded. The worst was over and a lot of new

profound effects on the way the

things started, including startups and crypto.

government of India has to

Free Trade gets Trumped

manage its finances.

By 2016, another set of challenges emerged. The US began to retaliate under new political leadership, against what it saw as manipulation of world trade

but it had done the damage. It had damaged the belief

rules by China and therefore, it imposed measures,

that this is the ideal system; that there is one country

which were in classic WTO terms could be called

in the world, which is the global manufacturing hub

protectionist. I am not making any value judgment on

and everybody else supplies components to that hub

the correctness or wrongness of their action. The

and everything gets shipped from that hub to

United States, which was the prime mover of free trade

everywhere else. This hub-and-spoke model and the

and in whose country, the so-called Washington

free flow of capital that it enabled began to suddenly

consensus used to reside, began to impose unilateral

seem not so optimal and that it was vulnerable. Then

trade restrictions on imports from China. Then came

came the other one—the Russo-Ukraine war, which

the completely unexpected exogenous event, which was

happened in late February 2022.

Covid. It brought trade to a screeching halt across

The Covid, Galwan and Russia-Ukraine war have

countries and exposed the risks of highly decentralized

created profound effects on the way the government

supply chains that had enabled and expanded free trade

of India has to manage its finances. The war and the

post-WTO. Optimization of costs became possible

western reaction to it have again upset a lot of widely

because of low tariffs and free trade system. It brought

held assumptions about how the global economy

consumer prices down for a lot of people including

functions.

citizens of India. Many things have not changed much in spite of inflation thanks to the supply systems which are

extremely

efficient.

But

they

depend

on

continuation of free trade, open markets, free-flowing

Western countries for centuries have been a bastion of property rights. Confiscation, expropriation and nationalisation without adequate compensation were all roundly condemned. It was always emphasised that

shipping lanes and air traffic and so on.

there is a need for due legal process before any such

Covid Shows the Mirror to the World

thing happens and it cannot arbitrarily be taken.

What Covid did is to show the world that all of

Confiscation

and

expropriation

were

known

these are man-made devices and that they can collapse.

features of communist states and not of capitalist

They all collapsed at the same time. There were no

states. Yet today, confiscation of movable and

ships and factories were not working. People didn't

immovable properties of some persons, of certain

have even toilet paper.

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We need to rethink our own policies, for example,

The US and Western Europe are

on the composition and location of our foreign

closer to each other, than they

exchange reserves or the desirability of issuing dollar

have been for decades. They are

bonds by the government of India. There are multiple

systematically detaching their

views on these but the point is, one has to think afresh.

economies from Russia and to

After all, it's a new world. It's not the world that we thought we lived in.

a lesser extent from China.

So, with all this, what is the situation today? Let me pick a few points selectively.

natural justice, which used to be held as self-evident.

The China‐Russia Factor China and Russia have de-facto formed a new

Freezing of Currency Reserves

economic block among them. There's a lot of Russo-

Another feature of the recent economic changes

Chinese or Sino-Russian trade. Most of it is not

has been the unilateral freezing of foreign currency

denominated in US dollars. It is largely Yuan

reserves of certain countries. That in turn, in certain

denominated and some of it is Rouble denominated.

cases, has created a risk of those countries defaulting

The US and Western Europe are closer to each

on their sovereign bonds. You have a country which is

other, than they have been for decades. They are

a borrower in sovereign bonds. It is solvent, willing to

systematically detaching their economies from Russia

repay its bonds but it is not allowed access to the

and to a lesser extent from China. The US-Western

currency it needs to repay those bonds. Therefore, it

Europe block is trying to pull away from the China-

could technically be in default and if it is in default,

Russia bloc. Earlier in the WTO era, everybody was

there are serious consequences to defaulting on a bond,

trying to trade with everybody else, as much as

especially a sovereign bond.

possible, whatever was the cheapest. That's not the case

None of these actions are based on any UN

now.

resolutions. I am not criticizing the decisions of any of

The economy of Europe is certain to suffer.

these countries. They were taken in exceptional

Potential damage from their self-imposed withdrawal

circumstances and it is quite normal. Let us accept that.

of energy sources from Russian oil and gas will be

But they should now realise that it is quite normal for

damaging in the long run. They will recover but it will

other countries also to act in their own best national

definitely take a long time because their huge

interests.

dependence on Russian oil and gas cannot be solved

When it comes to a crisis, long held principles are

overnight. The solutions involved are costlier purchases

sometimes not followed. It is no longer sufficient to

from more distant countries than Russia. The economy

assume the prevalence of a particular architecture or

of Russia is also certain to suffer because of the

of a particular set of rules or ways in which the global

sanctions that have been imposed on them. Meanwhile,

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WTO enables trade creation and

Union and it has perhaps weakened Britain as well

not trade diversion. Whatever is

though. Again there are two views on whether it has

done, is done for everybody,

weakened or strengthen them.

but bilateral and these kinds of

Less Talk in WTO

group arrangements do result in some suboptimal trade

Free trade agreements are becoming much more prominent than the WTO negotiations. A lot of trade

arrangements, though it may be

discussions happen between two sets of countries or

better than not having an

between two countries and much less gets done in the

agreement at all.

WTO. Now, as a matter of principle, the multilateral WTO system is better because it gives you optimal results and doesn't result in trade diversion. What do

Therefore I would argue that what we have today

I mean by trade diversion? If India enters into an

is difficult to call an architecture. At best, it has the

economic free trade agreement with one country X,

architectural look of an old locality in an old city, with

then any trade from that country becomes cheaper. But

a mix of structures of different ages, vintages and

some other country Y may be more efficient at

appearances. At worst, it has the chaotic architectural

producing that product. Because I don't have a free

features of a slum. So it is this architecture that we are

trade agreement, I end up buying from the more

dealing with today. We actually have a lot of confusion

inefficient country. This is called trade diversion.

in the global economic structure.

WTO enables trade creation and not trade

India Stands to Gain

diversion. Whatever is done, is done for everybody, but

But such chaos has benefits, particularly for a

bilateral and these kinds of group arrangements do

country, like India. So in the earlier architecture, India

result in some suboptimal trade arrangements, though

was not in the premier league. It was a second class

it may be better than not having an agreement at all.

citizen, without a permanent seat in the UN Security

BoP Crisis

Council and classified as a borrower country, rather than an investing or lender country. India was

The other feature of the present situation is the classic case of balance of payments crisis like the one we see in today's Sri Lanka. But in this crisis, the role

peripheral to global decision-making. There is little to lose and much to gain for us, from the emerging architecture or lack of it.

of the IMF has declined. The role of two countries —China and India in Sri Lanka’s economic crisis and

Even if India does not do anything spectacular, even

its resolution as of today—has been greater than that

if we simply continue with our existing normal

of the IMF. I'm not saying that it's a good thing but just

functionality and dysfunctionality that India has

observing that it has changed. The multilateral

displayed consistently for the last 10 to 15 years, our

institutions that were the pillars of the 1944 order are

relative position is almost certain to improve. If we

not driving this particular crisis. It is something that

continue growing at six to seven percent a year, we will

we can see easily.

be way ahead of many countries globally and our

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the most important challenge for us is domestic. We

We need to improve the quality

cannot shape the global order if we do not have a

of our public expenditure with

strong domestic economy. Paradoxically, our strength

a greater share for those

starts from here.

aspects of public expenditure

There are many steps which we need to take for

which promote growth.

our domestic economy to become strong. Gandhiji had talked about the role of drain inspectors. If I take such a view on Indian economy, I can dwell on a few of our weaknesses, so we can set them right. First and

position will continue to improve substantially in this

foremost,

new system. We have to only ensure that we don't do

government need prudent and conservative fiscal

anything very bad and score self-defeating goals. We

policies. This is absolutely critical if we have to stay

will improve, because others are worsening.

afloat and do well. We need to reduce our fiscal deficit,

and

more

state

governments

and

central

particularly at the central level. The Central deficit is

The Solar Alliance Second

both

much higher than at the state level. positively,

we

have

an

opportunity to shape the emerging architecture now.

Target Subsidies

A small but significant aspect is in the founding of the

We need to improve the quality of our public

international solar alliance. Solar energy is going to be

expenditure with a greater share for those aspects of

one of the key energy sources of the future. 100 years

public expenditure which promote growth. To do this,

from now, it may be more important than oil. The

we will have to reform some of our poorly targeted

international solar alliance is the first international

subsidies such as those in electricity and fertilizer,

organisation headquartered in India. It's not a

without which we cannot improve the quality of our

government of India organization.

public expenditure. There are no quick fixes in this

Another example is India's leadership in areas like unique identity and unique payment interface. These

task. It will be difficult but it needs to be done and it calls for a lot of introspection.

are technologies where we are ahead of even developed

We must have a tight control over public

countries. A lot of developing countries are being

expenditure. The other way is to increase our tax

advised on unique identity by the UIDAI. The UN

revenue but nobody wants tax increases. Nobody wants

agencies are taking the support of the Indian

any subsidy to be reduced and yet everybody wants

government in doing this in many developing countries.

fiscal deficit to be reduced. So, this is our trilemma

There will be many more things like this.

which we face every day. This is a very difficult balancing act. The governments and the people inside

Need for Strong Domestic Economy

governments need help from people in telling us how

If India truly has to play a significant role in

to solve this and coming up with workable solutions.

shaping the emerging global economy, then ironically,

The reduction of fiscal deficit is the single easiest way

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to increase the domestic savings rate. If you want India’s savings rate to go up, you need to cut the fiscal

We may need to think about diversifying of foreign exchange

deficit.

reserves, including an increase

Managing External Shocks

in the share of our gold.

Second, we need to minimize the vulnerability of our economy to external shocks. This means, we need to avoid taking too much external debt, and especially debt denominated in foreign currencies. All kinds of

of these feelings. There is also an assumption that

external debt have consequences.

industry and investors will evade or cheat if they can.

We may need to think about diversifying of foreign

There are enough examples to confirm this assumption

exchange reserves, including an increase in the share

also. We need to get out of this trap. We look forward

of our gold. Now, as an aside, Indians are often

to practical suggestions from you on how we can rise

criticised for an apparently irrational attachment to

above this.

gold but the Ukraine conflict and the various currency

Stay Away from Fashion

restrictions have shown the value of gold, which is not dependent on any sovereign; and which can be portably

Fourth

and

last,

India

needs

to

exercise

carried from one place to another. This perhaps gives

independence of mind in taking economic decisions.

us some sense of a deep civilizational experience as to

We need the courage to stay away or walk away from

why Indians have always wanted to keep a little bit of

agreements that are not in our interest. Without

gold. I'm not making a plea for you to invest in gold. I

harming others, we need to do what is in our interest.

am only talking about India's gold reserves.

When India did not join the regional comprehensive economic partnership or RCEP, there was a lot of

Foster Investments

criticism that we are isolating ourselves from global

Third, we need to foster a strong domestic investment climate. We need to achieve the right

trade. After two years, subsequent developments have shown that to be a wise decision.

balance in regulation, between preventing harm and

Economics is a discipline which is subject to

promoting good. Regulation is always a tension between

fleeting fashions. Massive fiscal stimuli were the

these two intentions. Too often, well-intentioned

fashion in 2020. India did not join that fashion. We had

regulations have stifled innovation and growth. We have

a restrained fiscal stimulus. Most of the relief measures

a long way to go in reducing compliance burden and

were in the form of credit and monetary measures. We

we must reduce the harassment of businessmen for

have emerged in reasonably good shape. Compared to

trivial mistakes or bonafide actions.

most other countries, we have emerged in better shape.

There is an assumption that the government and

There was a lot of pressure on us to follow fashion. We

regulators will be unreasonable or maybe corrupt or

need to resist fashion and assess things based on actual

both and there are enough examples to confirm some

facts, circumstances, empirical evidence and the pros

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and cons. This has held us in good stead over the recent

focus

past. We will have to follow policies that work for our

manufacturing quality and process of the Germans; and

country and our circumstances.

the quality life of the Scandinavians. We need to do all

and

work

ethic

of

the

Japanese;

the

this while preserving our unique strengths, including

My Wish List

our cultural values and diversity, where every citizen

To reach our potential, we need to improve in many dimensions. I would suggest that the future Indian economy should have ease of doing business of citystates like Singapore and Dubai; the financial, scientific and technical innovativeness of the US; the quality

is treated equally. The old economic order is crumbling. India can become a global economic power only by having a powerful domestic economy and a peaceful and cohesive society. 

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As the world emerges from the pandemic, it has opened up numerous opportunities. However, these opportunities come with challenges that India and the rest of the world must contend with. In this conclave, successful entrepreneurs, leaders and experts share their thoughts, opinions, insights and experiences with a focus on inspiring and guiding businesses, young entrepreneurs, and investors about the opportunities available and how to grow their business potentials.

Mr Sunil Mathur

of direct tax collection, we find that there is a growth

Director General of Income Tax Investigation (TN & Puducherry)

of about 45% in net collection. These figures indicate

W

e have just come out

of

a

very

difficult period. We

are really lucky that India—our

people, economy and businesses—has been very resilient. Although we had a bad FY20-21—the economy was literally in recession and growth was negative at around 6%, we did well in the subsequent FY21-22. The growth rate has been around 8.5%, and in the coming financial year, it is expected to be 7.5%. This shows that the country is recovering and the economy gaining the momentum lost two years ago. This fact is also borne out by the robustness in revenue collection. Last year, the government had targeted revenue collection of about Rs.22 lakh crore but the revenue departments could achieve about Rs.27 lakh crore. This shows that revenue collections are rising and there is momentum in the economy. This year also, after the first instalment

that businesses have done well and are ready to take India into the next level. We have a new India which is looking to leap into a league of advanced nations. In this new India, our current government wants us to be Atmanirbhar

Bharat—a

self-sufficient

and

self-

dependent India where businesses have a big role to play.

Efforts in Digitisation Businesses among themselves are doing well in adopting technology. The government is also trying to keep pace with them and it is not lagging behind. The tax departments have taken a number of initiatives in digitising processes and compliance requirements, thereby making an effort to ease the compliance burden of taxpayers. You must have seen what has happened during the past 10 years in the IT department—right from payment of taxes, getting PAN number allotted, filing of income tax return, filing of TDS return and

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processing of returns, etc. Now you can do everything

come in your registered account. Once the notices

online, sitting at home!

come, you will also have to file all your responses and

About two or three years ago, the scrutiny of assessments by the IT department was an area where the taxpayers were required to come to the IT office. If their case got selected for scrutiny, they will have to come to the IT department to attend to proceedings of assessment and also subsequent proceedings. In August 2020, a transformative decision was taken by the

submissions to the questions asked, online.

Territorial‐less Assessment Another feature is the scrapping of territorial jurisdiction. If you are in Chennai and say, you live in Nungambakkam area, there used to be an assessing officer in charge of Nungambakkam area and you had

government. The Prime Minister announced a scheme that honours the honest, in which it was decided that the major part of income tax department would become

The idea is to make it

faceless. After two years, we have almost implemented

comfortable for the taxpayer to

that scheme.

comply with the requirements.

The features of this scheme are very unique, and

During the initial

they may not be there in many of the advanced

implementation of this scheme,

countries. Under this scheme, if your case is selected

there were some teething

for scrutiny, you will not be required to go to the IT department.

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notices

are

issued,

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to appear before that officer for your scrutiny

On a lighter note, while this has brought a lot of

assessment. Now, your assessment will not be done by

comfort to the taxpayer, our officers have become

him. It may be done by anyone else in the country. Your

lonely. Nowadays, there are hardly any visitors to the

assessment case may be assigned to somebody in

IT department. Earlier we used to have parking problem

Gujarat, Assam or Rajasthan. You will not have any

in our offices. It is no more there because whatever the

contact with your assessing officer. He may be far-off

taxpayers want to say, they have to say it online. It is

and will communicate with you only online.

also compulsory for the officers to communicate with taxpayer only through online. Of course, there is an

Group Assessment

exception to this: the investigation wing, which is in

The third feature is group assessment. An officer

charge of conducting IT raids. From this wing,

who has been assigned from any part of the country

sometimes we go to the taxpayer and at other times,

will question you, but he will not do it alone. He will

the tax payer is called to our office for scrutiny.

prepare a draft order which will then be shared with another unit called review unit. This unit will review final order will be passed. This scheme is called group

Re­engineering of Conventional Business Using Technology

assessment. The idea is to make it comfortable for the

Mr Santosh Parekh

taxpayer to comply with the requirements. During the

Partner, Tulsi Silks, Chennai

the draft order and only when it approves the order, a

initial implementation of this scheme, there were some

• Thirty

teething problems. There may be some problems even

ago,

we

did

not

have

a

differentiator in selling our silk sarees. I

now and we are improving them. Some of the taxpayers

stayed in a weaver’s place for three months to

want to have personal hearing as they want to explain

understand the weaving process. Then we did

their case personally. So the government has allowed

backward

to have personal hearings too, but again, these will not

integration,

added

looms

and

designed our sarees, after which our business

be face-to-face or in person. It will be through video conference and the assessing officer will be at a remote

years

started picking up gradually. • Family

place. The link for the video conference will be shared

owned

technology

with the taxpayer.

and

businesses for

must

which,

a

embrace top-down

approach is needed. It is very easy for people with

The faceless and territorial-less assessment has

business

experience

to

adopt

technology.

now been extended to penalty scheme and appeals. The appeals were being done by the Commissioner of

• To insulate from competition, businesses

Appeals. Now if you appeal from Chennai, it will be

must focus on R&D, investing in technology

heard by somebody sitting somewhere else. This is a

and recruiting the best talent.

transformative change which has been brought by the

• We have embraced technology and we are now

government with the intention to minimize the

using apps in our entire business, providing

compliance burden of the taxpayer.

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Trade from India: The Story for Next Decade

Tax Technology: Current and Future Trends

Mr Navin Ranka

CA Divyesh Lapsiwala

Director, SPR India, Chennai

Partner, Ernst & Young, Mumbai

• Historically, India is very strong in trade.

• Tax technology is all about tax professionals

Trading comes to India quite naturally but we

and very less about the software itself.

don’t focus on trade tourism as China does.

Therefore, tax professionals must drive the

• China makes 49% of US toys, 70% of world umbrellas, 60% of world buttons and 72% of

technology. • Earlier, it used to take a long time to

US shoes. All these are not high tech.

summarise the transactions and tax used to

• India’s falling behind in trade is because of its losing

steam

in

manufacturing,

be the last point. Now with ERPs being used

while

by most companies, we see frequent use of

focussing heavily on services.

the tax module and thus, tax planning. Tax

• Parking, safety and sanitation, restricted

has thus determined the way of running

movement, risk of fire, rainy days and legal challenges are the key impediments to doing

businesses. • The penetration of tax technology that we see

trade in India and showcasing it to the world.

in India is not seen even in many advanced

• The solution lies in building world-class Trade

countries. They are now trying to introduce

Parks. Each Tier 1 city must have at least one

the tech with many similarities to the India

or two trade parks.

model (like E-invoicing and GST filing). It is a proud moment and an opportunity for us, as we go along.

Brand Building for Success

• Looking at GSTIN data for the last 4 years, we

Mr Vijay Parthasarathy

can see that 80.2% tax payers are proprietary

Brand Specialist, Mind Coach and Speaker

concerns paying 13.3% of GST.

• Businesses must develop a strong brand

• E-Invoicing is one of the most successful and transformational thing that India has done.

narrative that resonates with customers. • Emotions are the key to build a powerful

• The guiding principle of new approach is

brand. It is never about what we are. It is

based on: Re-use of IP; leveraging new

always about who we are.

technology and Re-use of data.

• The secret to building a powerful brand is

• Efficiency, Risk & Governance and Value

picking the right emotions, mapping it with

optimisation

the target customers and then building the

transformation.

narrative carefully.

are

critical

aspects

in

tax

• Tax professionals must aim to offer platforms that can be operated on mobile phones and which can be easily used by the customers. This presents huge opportunities.

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Stock Market and Opportunities in Alternative Investment

Stock Market and Opportunities in Alternative Investment

Mr Sudarshan Lodha

Mr R Pallava Rajan

Founder & CEO, Strata Property, Bangalore

Founder Director, PMS Bazaar, Chennai

• Investments must give a return that can beat

• There are two major categories of alternative

inflation.

investment.

• There are multiple products available in the

• Category 1: Angel funds, Venture capital

market that can give you good returns and

funds, SME funds and Infrastructure funds

help you grow your business. Some of the

• Category 2: Private equity funds, debt funds,

alternate investment opportunities which are different from traditional investments are:

Fund of funds, Real estate funds. • There is enough of asset class available in our

–

Invoice discounting

country that is well regulated and which can

–

P2P lending / Liquid loans

be picked by us, with minimum investment.

–

Fractional commercial real estate

All asset classes will not perform well at the

–

Working capital financing

same time. Investors must understand this

–

Bonds (E-rated bonds that give a very

fact and have a well-diversified and balanced

good return)

portfolio.

–

Revenue based financing

–

Asset financing (like funding charging stations for Electric Vehicles.)

• Platforms are there for all these options. They

Emerging Technology: Driver for Business Growth

take care of the CIBIL score and other

Mr Vijay Hebbar

requirements that a lender / investor must be

Sr. Vice President & Global Head, Sales and Marketing, KrypC

concerned with. • KredX, Wint, Grip, Klub and Smallcase are some

of

these

platforms.

Using

these

platforms, one can also raise money for their own businesses. • Though there are risks associated with these like defaulting of bill payment by a company, these can be managed by carefully selecting the companies.

The Top Trends that can impact your business are: • Smarter devices (like intelligent home robots) • Robotics, AI and Machine Learning • Computing Power (Use of Cloud, 5G and 6G) • 3D Printing (including printed food, metal and composite materials) • Genomics eradication,

Investors can experiment

with a minimum of 3 to 5% of their portfolio in these alternate investments and explore.

(modified new

crops,

vaccines

and

disease medical

breakthroughs) • New Energy Solutions (Green Energy and Cost Effective) • Quantum Computing

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• Digital Trust / Blockchain (Distributed ledgers

Therefore, diversify your investments in

and non-fungible tokens –NFTs that transform the world)

different buckets. • Different business models are followed by

• Extended Reality (ER) / Metaverse whose advances

pave

the

way

for

family run businesses. They are meritocratic

incredible

model (the best person manages), democratic

experiences.

model (all are treated equal), multi-trust model and cash-it-out model (where the business owners fight and kill the business. It

Transition of Family Business to Next Genera­ tion: The Nitty­Gritty and Nuances Mr Krish Srikanth

is better to sell such businesses and distribute the money to the family members) • Writing a personal will is very important and

Business Family Mentor, Life & Executive Coach Organisational Consultant, Chennai

more so, for family business owners. Believing that nothing will happen to us is akin to

• Business owners must know the difference

having a no business model.

between business and employment. If the day-

• Business owners must have plans to overcome

to-day operation of a business cannot run if

some of the common problems faced by the

the owner is not there, then it is not a

family business owners and which are:

business.

It

is,

in

other

words,

self-

–

employment for the owner.

properly.

• Have a vision for the business.

talent

level

of

the

–

How to get good non-family members

personal income. The owners must aim to

to join the business and they remain

become to financially free as individuals. Even

loyal to the business.

if the business fails, the individuals must be

–

able to run their life with the same lifestyle.

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members is an important factor.

• Treat business income as separate from

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MMA‐KAS organised a discussion on the theme of the book: ‘India’s IT Revolution ‐ The Maverick Effect,’ authored by Mr Harish S. Mehta. Mr N R Narayana Murthy, Founder & Chairman Emeritus, Infosys addressed the participants during the event. Mr Rajesh Nambiar, CMD and President, Digital Business & Technology, Cognizant, led the conversation on the theme ‘Trillion Dollar Digital Economy’ with the special invitees Mr Harish S Mehta, author, Mr K V Ramani, Founder and Chancellor, Sai University and Mr Lakshmi Narayanan, Managing Trustee, Chennai Mathematical Institute & Former Chairman, ICT Academy.

MR N R NARAYANA MURTHY

thinking and acting quickly to solve the future problems of our nation.

F

Role of Nasscom or India to become the Sone kee chidia or the golden bird that Harish Mehta talks in his book, the country needs intellectual liberation. But we

must remember that cultural transformation must precede intellectual liberation.

What is the role of Nasscom in contemporary India? The primary role of Nasscom in the early 90s was forming a cohesive group of leaders of competing software service businesses to accept competition. Such a group worked as a unified team to hold dialogue with

The cultural transformation must result in Indians

the government on early issues like tax exemption, the

becoming honest, disciplined, transparent, accountable

availability of bandwidth and installing an IPR regime.

and hard-working. We must learn to put the interests

Nasscom is currently occupied with issues like IT for

of our institutions, our community, and our country

public

ahead of our personal interests. It requires us to elect

upskilling.

the best qualified and the most honest people to lead

important role in the first decade of its journey.

us. It requires our government to become a true catalyst

However, the initial successes would not have been

in removing every hurdle for our citizens and our

possible without the effort of the CEOs of several large

businesses. It requires us to introduce an educational

companies today, as well as, without dedicated

system that enhances curiosity, critical thinking and

individuals like Harish Mehta (the first elected

problem-solving abilities of our children. It requires us

Chairman of Nasscom), K V Ramani, Ashank Desai,

to move from our tendency to gloat about our past, to

Vijay Srirangan and Saurab Srivatsava.

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cyber

security,

privacy

and

Late Shri Dewang Mehta played an

Dewang's


successors as Presidents of Nasscom and the successive

engaging with the government for better policies, for

chairman’s councils have also played productive roles

the growth of the industry. What are the current

in the later years. Of course, this chain of successes

challenges of our industry and what can Nasscom do

would not have even started if we did not have the

about it? There are many. Our future objective is to

support of India's finest pro-business bureaucrats like

obtain a bigger share of the global services market, to

Shri N Vittal, ably supported by late Dr N Seshagiri, Shri

add value to the domestic market and to become

N Gopalaswamy and late Dr Varadan. In a parallel

recognized globally in the software product market. I

thread, Harish Mehta, in his book, traces the idealistic

will mention about four strategic challenges in our way

journey of a young couple—Harish and his wife Shaila

to achieve these and how to overcome them.

returning to our country from the US and playing their role in creating new dreams, new adventures and new

Revamping Education System

opportunities. This narration will serve as a good

Our first challenge is to revamp our education

template for any NRI to follow in the footsteps of

system to enhance curiosity, critical thinking and

Harish and Shaila. Harish is a good example of

proactive problem-solving amongst our youngsters.

optimism, positivism, teamwork and energy. Shaila

This will perhaps help many services companies to

personified compassion, friendliness and generosity.

enhance their per capita revenue productivity. It will also help some member companies to succeed as

Four Strategic Challenges for Nasscom

product companies in the global market.

What is the main lesson from Nasscom that other industry associations can emulate? To me, it is enabling competition among fiercely competing companies in

It will help services companies to transform themselves from reactive problem solvers to proactive problem definers and solvers for their global and Indian

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customers. The new education policy of my friend Dr

Kasturi Rangan has made many useful recommendations.

Most large Indian companies derive about 5% to 10% of their

Nasscom therefore has a seminal role in exalting our

revenue from the domestic

higher education institutions to implement these

market.

recommendations with a sense of alacrity.

Champion English Language English is the universal language of digitalization. English is also the language for mobility of IT

Improving Per Capita Revenue Productivity

professionals, going from one state to another in India.

The fourth issue is that the per capita revenue

I am told that the maximum percentage of local people

productivity of the Indian software services companies

in a company is generally not more than 60%. Therefore

in a global hard currency like the US dollar has

companies have to hire about 40% of professionals from

remained almost the same during the last 22 years. I

other states. These professionals want schools in a pan-

hope I am wrong. It used to be at least so till 2014 when

Indian, globally valued language like English for the

I was at Infosys. The depreciation of the Indian rupee

education of their children. Therefore Nasscom has its

from 45 rupees per US dollar in 2000 to rupees 78 per

role cut out as a champion for English.

US dollar today has helped the Indian service companies to manage inflation and the increasing cost

Guide Private Companies

to some extent and to protect their operating margins.

Most large Indian companies derive about 5% to 10% of their revenue from the domestic market. Very little of even this small revenue is from digitalization effort of public governance systems at the state and the central level. Most of these revenue, definitely during my time, but I am told even now, is either loss-making or at very low margins. There are many reasons why it is so. I will not go into the reasons here. Nasscom can prepare a recommendatory methodology for private companies to prepare talent for successfully executing government projects in India on time, within budget and with the requisite quality. Nasscom can also produce a manual to help governments in India to plan a digitalization project, to prepare a proper bid, to select the right vendor, to detail the requirement definition and to manage time, cost, productivity, quality, security, privacy and disaster recovery in developing and maintaining and

Improving per capita revenue productivity in US dollars is clearly a company level issue. The focus of service companies has to shift from competing on price to competing on value to our customers. Our companies will have to bring innovations to increase the business value leverage. We must focus on BVA: the ratios of value delivered to customers to price paid by customers, which is called BVA (Business Value Addition). It is easy to see that the price can be higher if the business value to the customer is higher. This will also move our companies away from our tendency to commoditize markets and compete only on cost. Nasscom can create a group to share innovative ideas in this effort. We at Infosys have always believed that sharing ideas will only make the ideas better. In any case, the success of an idea is determined primarily by how well and how quickly you can execute it. 

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"A nation becomes vibrant when there are independent thinkers." ajesh Nambiar: Why do you call our IT industry's growth as a revolution?

Harish Mehta: A thousand years of downward spiral of India was changed by the IT industry. When you arrest the downfall of the country's economy, I call it a revolu on. Today, we have a flywheel of around 60,000 startups. The original flywheel that was built by the IT industry has created posi vity and op mism in the country.

during lunch and therea er, we had to seek personal mee ngs with them. We were usually a group of 25 delegates and there would be fierce compe

on in mee ng the

American clients. But during the seminar, we were completely cohesive and put up a unified show and talk about India in one voice. Those days, some of the clients have even asked me, "Where is so ware in India? We’ve heard of only cows and saints on the

Tell us about the early days of Nasscom and what it should do today, according to you?

roads in India." One more client asked me, "Tell me

K V Ramani: Nasscom today is a glorious ins tu on.

sell your so ware?" That was the state of our

It did not happen overnight. In the mid‐eigh es, we

so ware industry then.

used to par cipate in the So ware India shows arranged by the Dept. of Electronics. We used to have half a day seminars and we were not even allowed to put our logos in the slides when we made presenta ons. None of us was allowed to talk about our companies. We were only allowed to talk about 'so ware in India.' The audience and speakers were Americans. We were allowed to meet them only

frankly. Have you come here to buy so ware or to

Today, 35 years later, even if you are a startup in San Jose and go to an investor, the first ques on they ask you is, "What's your e‐up with India?" They say, "Get India into your startup. Then only, we will come here for funding." That has been our transforma on. Of course, we had many challenges. There was diversity of views but we all stayed together. In the mid‐80s, import duty on so ware was 235%. Year by year, it got reduced and we were also

Today, 35 years later, even if you are a

increasing the turnover. At one point, we picked up

startup in San Jose and go to an investor,

momentum and the Indian IT elephant started flying

the first question they ask you is, "What's your tie‐up with India?"

beyond even our own wildest imagina on. Going forward, Nasscom has to take mul ple avatars, because the industry has become more complex.

~ K V Ramani

Lakshmi, can your share your thoughts about Nasscom?

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Lakshmi Narayanan: To those IT companies that

early as 1975. Fi y years ago, our bureaucracy,

started later, Nasscom was there to share the

made it so difficult for the hardware manufacturers

industry best prac ces and guide them not to make

to set up shop and succeed in India. In certain cases,

the mistakes which the veteran companies made in

the duty on raw materials was higher than that of

the beginning. It was not easy to learn from

the finished goods. I do not pass any judgements on

individual organisa ons but an industry organisa on

them and they were all well‐inten oned. It is now

like Nasscom helped us greatly, as it collated

too late for India to pick up speed in hardware. 12

informa on across IT industry.

Many new

years ago, Intel came to India. They asked for some

companies, thanks to Nasscom, could emulate the

facili es. Our bureaucracy did not accept their

successes of previously started big companies.

request. As result, they moved to Vietnam. For India

When Nasscom said something, people were willing

to succeed big in hardware, it will lead to a lot of

to listen as they knew that Nasscom had no

fric on.

individual agenda and that they were not promo ng

What should India do to stay relevant in creating technology talent, especially with some new technology coming up every day?

any individual company. Its reports had credibility and were based on a lot of data analysis and

Lakshmi Narayanan: Open innova on is a big thing

research.

that has happened. The idea travels so fast. So, We have today great IT products used by the government like Unique iden ty, FASTag, Co‐Win, the Income Tax system and Passport system which can be used by popula ons around the world and not just in India. These promote ease of transac ons and ease of doing business. Nasscom must focus on export of these products.

research talent and capability is available, though not in the numbers that we want. The key people are there in India. To scale up open innova on, we need more and more talent. I know children in the age group of 14 to 18 who learn computer languages, AI models, neural links, etc. I am confident that people have the capability and

The other aspect is the technology itself and

capacity to learn and make a progress. I believe we

Nasscom is a key contributor to government's policy

have cracked the problem of developing talent for

making in technology area. Another strength of

the problems of today and the immediate future.

Nasscom is that it does not take more than it can chew. Though there were many requests to

Another strength of Nasscom is that it

Nasscom to take on hardware also in its domain, it

does not take more than it can chew.

has consistently stayed away from it, saying 'no' to

Though there were many requests to

the proposal.

Nasscom to take on hardware also in its

Mr Murthy, what would it take for India to take up the cause of hardware, just like Nasscom has done for software?

Narayana Murthy: The reality according to me is

domain, it has consistently stayed away from it, saying 'no' to the proposal. ~ Lakshmi Narayanan

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Where we need to focus is developing talents for

their parent pays 30 lakhs a year. Imagine the impact

the future that lies much ahead.

on our na onal economy. Why is it that we have not

Harish Mehta: I have two out‐of‐the box ideas. One,

ramped up our UG educa on to a level that we can

at a very young age, make learning chess compulsory. It is a very low cost device and even the poorest of the poor can learn and start developing certain abili es as a child. Two, make coding and ar ficial intelligence compulsory for every student, right from the early years. K V Ramani: We are in the 75th year of our independence. Yet, not even one educa onal ins tu on of ours, finds a place in the Top 100 of Times ranking or QS ranking. Even the IITs rank between 125 and 150. They do a great job, no

meet with others? The new educa on policy is an outstanding document. We need to make the poli cal, parental, student and academic community to buy into it. This is the basis on which I started the SAI University. We want to be the first interna onal university in India. Narayana Murthy: Ramani's crusade is extremely praiseworthy. One thing that we Indians lack is discussing our problems openly. Unless we do this, we will not be able to solve them. It is in our culture not to discuss our problems in the open.

doubt. I feel that it is a ma er of policy. We have

I used to take part in customer surveys and analyse

been too busy, focussing on literacy and primary

them very carefully for 33 years—between 1981 and

educa on, which could be at a demand at the

2014. The general consensus was that our people

country level. But simultaneously, we failed to invest

were excellent in doing what they were told to do.

in higher educa on, technical educa on and

"But your people would not tell us if there was a

research. Most private universi es in our country

problem in our business process and how they can

are beyond 700 in interna onal rankings.

suggest us to make it be er," was the feedback, by

Every year, nearly 3.5 lakh students are going from India

to

overseas,

primarily

the

US,

for

undergraduate educa on. If they go for PG for a specialisa on, we can understand. Each student or

and large. That is why I talked about the importance of Business Value Addi on (BVA). AI or programming is the easy part. What is important is moving from a reac ve problem solver to a proac ve problem definer and solver. They are a few good universi es coming up which are trying to arouse curiosity,

What is important is moving from a

analy cal thinking and proac ve problem solving.

reactive problem solver to a proactive

That is what this country needs.

problem definer and solver. They are a

A na on becomes vibrant when there are

few good universities coming up which

independent thinkers. Late Robert Kennedy once

are trying to arouse curiosity, analytical

said, borrowing the words of George Bernard Shaw,

thinking and proactive problem solving. ~ Narayana Murthy

‘Some men see things as they are, and ask why. I dream of things that never were, and ask why not.’ That, to me, should be the purpose of our educa on system. 

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MMA organised a discussion on the theme of the book "The Comrades and the Mullahs" authored by Dr Stanly Johny and Mr Ananth Krishnan. The authors were in conversation with Mr Srinath Raghavan, historian and author; Mr Aziz Amin, Former Principal Secy. to Ashraf Ghani, Former President, Afghanistan; and Dr Vinitha Revi, independent scholar.

Dr Stanly Johny

escaped to tell the world about horrors they faced.

International Affairs Editor, The Hindu

A

Soviet Invasion

fghanistan has got a very complicated history. It is popularly known as the graveyard of empires. In the mid-19th century, the British

went into Afghanistan. In the 20th century, the Soviets entered Afghanistan and in the early 21st century, Americans went there. There are interesting similarities between all these three great power interventions in this country. The British went there in the 19th century as they wanted to create a buffer zone to stop the Russians from getting into Afghanistan, as it was on the Indian border.

In the 20th century, in 1978, there was a communist revolution in Afghanistan. In 1979, during the

Christmas

night,

the

Soviets

crawled

into

Afghanistan. Under their presence, there was a regime change. The President was brought down and assassinated and there was a new President in Kabul. The main goal of Soviets was to ensure that the Communist regime survived and to make sure that the Soviet influence in Afghanistan stayed. But 10 years down the line, the Soviets had to withdraw from Afghanistan in ignominy. Within a couple of years, the

They did not want Russian influence to reach British India. They brought down Ghouse Muhammad Khan’s regime and replaced it with Shah Shujah Durrani's regime in Kabul. But within a few years, the

Soviet Union itself would disintegrate.

9/11 and the US Anger Then

the

Americans,

in

2001,

went

into

British had to withdraw from Afghanistan and while

Afghanistan because of the 9/11 attack. They brought

withdrawing, all the camp followers and British soldiers

down the Taliban regime and the Islamic Republic of

were massacred, except one medical officer who

Afghanistan was founded, supported by the Americans.

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At the zenith of their presence in Afghanistan, they had more than 110,000 soldiers stationed in Afghanistan. If you go down the reports from 2001 to 2004, Afghanistan had relative stability; it had Parliamentary and Presidential elections. Everybody expected that Afghanistan had finally become a stable country. The Taliban

had

withdrawn

into

Pakistan

or

Talib

Afghanistan's mountainous regions. But twenty years later, the United States, the world's most powerful military force and the largest economic power had to cut a deal with the Taliban and withdraw its troops

The Questions There

are

interesting

questions

like

Afghanistan is a graveyard of empires. Why have great powers always shown interest in Afghanistan? What makes Afghanistan so special and what led to the rise of the Taliban? Now with the United States exiting Afghanistan, what does the new situation mean for the regional countries, especially China, which has become the second largest economy and the most powerful military force perhaps, and for India?

from Afghanistan, practically handing the country over to the Taliban. Interestingly, the Soviets troops pulled back from Afghanistan in 1989, after 10 years of

The geopolitical contest

presence. Two years later, in 1991, after the collapse

between the United States and

of the Soviet Union, the communist government in

China is going to be one of the

Afghanistan of President Mohammad Najibullah collapsed. In the case of the American withdrawal from Afghanistan, 15 days ahead of the United States completing its withdrawal, the government in Kabul had fallen and the Taliban were already in Kabul. 50

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most defining foreign policy contexts of the 21st Century.


The geopolitical contest between the United States

China is keeping its

and China is going to be one of the most defining

engagement with the Taliban to

foreign policy contexts of the 21st Century. The

see how it can build mutual

Chinese got rid of the Americans from their backyard

trust with them in their own

in Afghanistan. India has stayed engaged with

interest.

Afghanistan throughout, except for a brief period in the 1990s when the Taliban were in power. India's policy was to deal with the government of the day. Afghanistan had seen several regime changes.

of influence, particularly in your neighbourhood. Afghanistan is in a very strategically located geography.

Initially, there was monarchy. In 1973, the Dawood

Being at the backyard of China, it is important for the

Khan's Republic replaced the monarchy. Within a few

Chinese government to have a stable and friendly

years, there was a communist coup and the communist

government that does not pose threats to its security,

government was in place until early 1990s. When it

political and economic interests.

collapsed, the Mujahideens took over, followed by the Talibans, till the US intervened in 2001. With the return of Taliban regime now, India faces strategic challenges.

The Hype about China Although there was hype in the Chinese media and by the Western scholars and the netizens who said that the vacuum created by the US leaving Afghanistan is

Azim Amin

going to be filled by China, we see that it has slowly

Former Principal Secy to Ashraf Ghani, former President of Afghanistan

T

become far from reality as of now, because Beijing is not keen to pursue it, particularly in the short term.

he Chinese policy towards Afghanistan has

Since the Taliban takeover, it has been cold in its

always been viewed through the prism of

approach and is in a position of waiting and observing.

Pakistan. China's engagement with the previous

government was heavily influenced by Pakistan. And so it is now. However, the situation has changed in Afghanistan and the current Afghanistan presents both opportunity as well as risk for the Chinese government.

China is keeping its engagement with the Taliban to see how it can build mutual trust with them in their own interest. China's policy towards Afghanistan has primarily been dominated by security concerns, followed by economic concerns. Afghanistan has vast mineral resources and China wants to expand its

Opportunities for China

influence. The Belt and Road initiative (BRI) is the

The Taliban which now controls the government

hallmark of Chinese global ambitions.

has very strong relations with Pakistan; Pakistan is very close to China. Therefore it presents a lot of opportunities

to

the

Chinese

government,

for

expanding its political influence in the region.

The Threats China's other concerns include cross-border drug trafficking. They want to make sure that the drug

Being a global power, you definitely need a sphere

produced in Afghanistan does not get into mainland

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China. It is also concerned with the security of its

the ISPK—Taliban's existential enemy. The warm

projects and assets in the cities in the surrounding

reception that Taliban got in China earlier has now

region and in Afghanistan as well. Recent events have

turned into a cold response.

shown an uptick in violence. It has alarmed many pundits in Beijing. The spurt in violence by the Islamic State of Pakistan and Khorasan (ISPK) and ETIM founded by the Uyghur militants are deemed by the

Ananth Krishnan The China Correspondent, The Hindu

in Pakistan's northern areas of Balochistan. The Karachi

A

suicide bombings targeted the Chinese Confucius

development in those early years was a model

Institute’s personnel. These have made China wary of

agreement to settle the China-Afghanistan boundary.

the Taliban and their promises. They are worried by

On 2nd March 1963, incidentally the same day China

the presence of non-state actors within Afghanistan.

signed the controversial border agreement with

Uyghurs have established strong military relationship

Pakistan that India continues to reject, China and

with ISPK now, which was not the case previously.

Afghanistan announced that they would enter formal

Chinese to be of primary concern. These groups have gained in strength, resources and organisation since the Taliban have taken control. Attacks have intensified

fghanistan was one of the first countries to recognize the PRC in 1950. Diplomatic relations between the two nations were

established five years later. The most significant

My information is that the discussions that took

talks, which made quite a good progress. By August

place between the Taliban leadership and Chinese

1963, they had a draft agreement and by end of the

foreign minister early this year revolved around

year, they signed a boundary treaty, which most

neutralising threats and potential threats to the security

observers agree, largely favoured Afghanistan, as it

of China.

largely followed the boundary of the 1895 Britain-

From Warm to Cold Expecting Taliban to crack down on Uyghurs, Al Qaeda

and

other

militants

will

have

political

consequences for Taliban. So far, the Taliban have not been

recognised.

relationship

on

Maintaining

the

one

hand

coherence and

and

mollifying

international partners in regional countries on the

Beijing responded very differently to Taliban 2.0 though, twenty five years later, which reflected not only the

other, is an incredibly difficult task. Many of the Taliban

changed global situation but

fighters have developed personal relationships, even

also China's own changing

married and established ideological bonds with these

ambitions as well as a sense of

fighters. Their immediate priority is to keep the Taliban

its place in the world.

rank and file cohesive and this is the key to the longevity of their rule. They very well know the consequence of upsetting these groups who may join 52

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The launch of the BRI which had

up to America's exit, their growing weariness to sustain nation building projects in Afghanistan. The second is

a clear focus on China's

Xi Jinping's entry into power in this period and the

neighbourhood, dovetailed with

launch of the BRI in 2013—the year that he became

Ashraf Ghani coming to power

President. The launch of the BRI which had a clear focus

in Kabul and beginning his

on China's neighbourhood, dovetailed with Ashraf Ghani coming to power in Kabul and beginning his

administration with a push for

administration with a push for infrastructure projects.

infrastructure projects.

He went to China on his first overseas visit and declared China as a strategic partner. China remained in touch with Ghani till the very end. They did not explicitly back the Taliban against him. They may well

Russia agreement, which saw China give up its claims

have preferred an outcome in Kabul where there was

on the Wakhan corridor.

some kind of power sharing agreement, which many people expected to happen at that time.

The Sino‐Soviet Split The Soviet occupation of Afghanistan which took

Two Messages

place during the Sino-Soviet split and a phase of

Two noteworthy messages were conveyed in July,

difficult relations between China and the Soviet Union

which somewhat reflected the Chinese approach to

was a huge factor in how Beijing looked at the security

Afghanistan. The first is, welcoming the fact that

of its western borders. Beijing jumped into the efforts

Afghanistan now belongs to the Afghan people and its

to support the Mujahideen against the Soviets. The PLA

future is in the hands of its own people. Of course,

even trained Mujahideen fighters in Xinjiang, something

that's an implicit reference to the end of American

that is very unthinkable today. Now fast-forwarding to

presence in Afghanistan and secondly, an expectation

1996, the Taliban coming to power hardly inspired their

that the Taliban will make a clean break with terrorist

confidence, since there was a suspicion of their links

organisations that had a connect to Xinjiang.

to extremist groups, especially those that China believe, are active in Xinjiang. Beijing's initial outreach to the Taliban was very tentative.

The second factor is that there is still some weariness in China. Even in 2021, several Chinese experts expressed caution against assuming that Taliban 2.0 would be very different from the first

Different Response to 2.0 Beijing responded very differently to Taliban 2.0 though, twenty five years later, which reflected not only the changed global situation but also China's own changing ambitions as well as a sense of its place in the world. Two concurrent trends are important to note here. The first is America's exit as well as in the lead

version. They were broadly right in their assessment, perhaps more than some Western experts who, for whatever reasons, were putting forth the argument that Taliban 2.0 will be different. The public statements from China, which almost welcomed the Taliban’s return, are more of propaganda driven by the schadenfreude of the US exit and scoring points against

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Americans, rather than reflecting a sense that China

steps to insert themselves as a power player. We are

would open its wallet in Afghanistan in a big way.

seeing that not just in Afghanistan but elsewhere in the neighbourhood. We have seen that in Sri Lanka and in

Memories Don’t Fade

Nepal. They are willing to be involved in domestic

Beyond this sort of outward welcoming of the

politics to a degree not seen before in the past. They

Taliban's seizure of power, there was a more

are willing to take more steps to protect their security.

complicated response in China to the Taliban coming

Take, for instance, the new base they are helping to

to power. Many Chinese carry memories of Taliban 1.0

construct in Tajikistan. According to reports, they have

and especially the destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas.

stationed some of the People's Armed Police force, who

They are wary of extremist Islamist groups, and to be

are in charge of internal security in Xinjiang. So we are

honest, of any kind of Islam, if you look at what's

seeing a more assertive China that's willing to take

happening within China today and in the Xinjiang

some amount of risk. But at the same time, at least for

camps. At the same time, the state media was doing

now, it is still a generally cautious player that does not

its best to remake perceptions of the Taliban within

want to repeat the mistakes of others.

China, diluting the hardline views and instead trying to present them as the real figures from the grassroots of Afghanistan. A lot of this was just hyped.

Srinath Raghavan Historian and Author

Projects on Hold In 2020, the total Chinese FDI in Afghanistan was about 4 million dollars. That is less than 3% of its investment in Pakistan. China's two biggest projects in

I

n view of the security concerns that China has about Islamist terrorist organizations operating in the western province of Xinjiang, they have taken

extraordinary steps and put in a great degree of

Afghanistan are a) developing a copper mine in Mes Aynak and b) an oil field in Amu Darya. Both remain inactive. This was perhaps in the period when there was an American troop presence and more stability and

security than what you have today. Even in this period,

The Chinese have these two broad options. One is that the

they were unable to get their projects going. There were

Taliban while continuing an

recent attacks on some Chinese personnel and projects

Islamic agenda operates much

in Pakistan. Even in Pakistan, Chinese companies

more like Pakistan, which is

currently have put their plans on hold. A lot of the 62

directly responsive to China's

billion dollars of investment spoken about have not

interests. The second is, trying

really materialized.

to understand how Afghanistan

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will potentially fit into China's foreign policy.


The Taliban government has to

China's foreign policy. We are at an interesting turning

provide some framework of

point in the BRI itself. One of the key things about the BRI was that it was a Eurasian initiative. It was an

governance. None of that, at

attempt to link, under Chinese initiative and leadership,

this point of time is exactly

a series of territories, markets, production centres and

evident to any of us. The only

consumption societies, all across Central Asia, leading

thing clear is that the Taliban's

all the way to Europe. The Ukraine war has effectively

ideological agenda remains

put paid to, at least the European side of the BRI, for

broadly the same.

the foreseeable future. The Chinese are going to find it extremely difficult to do anything west of Russia. That puts a huge question mark on the future of the BRI itself. We have the really affluent societies in Western

surveillance and control, through a system of camps,

Europe and without them, what BRI will achieve is an

for their own Muslim people. There is an upsurge

open question the Chinese will be asking themselves.

against that. The Chinese are concerned about the attitude of the new Taliban government towards these

Restrict BRI to Asia?

groups. Are they going to support them on the basis of

The answer may well be that China forgets the

fraternity of Islamic brotherhood? In the past, the

European side of it and double down on BRI in the

Taliban acted along some of those principles. That's

context of Central Asia and Southeast Asia. That may

how they gave asylum to various groups, including Al-

well be a possible response but it's not very clear. The

Qaeda and for which, they paid a very heavy price. Will

way Chinese have dealt with in most parts of the world,

they go down the Pakistan route of saying that China

we can see that they are interested in possible Returns

is so important to us that even if we support various

on Investment (ROI), that is, projects which have

groups, we will respond to China specific concerns by

worked for them. There's nothing wrong with that

cracking down on terror. Think of what happened in

approach. These are not simply purely political

Pakistan, right in the mid-2000s—the infamous Lal

decisions. Sri Lanka is going through a crisis but

Masjid incident, which led to the fall of General

surprisingly, China has not been that active. In fact,

Musharraf. Since Chinese nationals were targeted, he

India seems to be so much more active in the way

used the Pakistani troops to flush out that area. It then

they've responded to the immediate crisis of Sri Lanka.

spiralled out into things that he could not control.

So there is no reason to assume that the Chinese will do something by way of investments in Afghanistan.

Two Options

Purely from a political perspective, the country has to

The Chinese have these two broad options. One is

stabilize. The economy has to have some legs to stand

that the Taliban while continuing an Islamic agenda

on. The Taliban government has to provide some

operates much more like Pakistan, which is directly

framework of governance. None of that, at this point

responsive to China's interests. The second is, trying

of time is exactly evident to any of us. The only thing

to understand how Afghanistan will potentially fit into

clear is that the Taliban's ideological agenda remains

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A look at the history of

geopolitically? I think it has a somewhat inflated

Afghanistan, you can see their

reputation as being in a very central location. A more

continued status of neutrality or non‐alignment. In fact, in the

careful look at the history of the last 200 years will tell that Afghanistan has not always been that important. It has been important from time to time. The British

1950s, 60s and even early 1970s,

had their own reasons to try and initially subjugate

Afghanistan got economic aid

Afghanistan. A look at the history of Afghanistan, you

both from the United States and

can see their continued status of neutrality or non-

the Soviet Union.

alignment. In fact, in the 1950s, 60s and even early 1970s, Afghanistan got economic aid both from the United States and the Soviet Union. Some of the most iconic developmental projects were done by both

broadly the same. Some of the harder edges may have

parties at that time. Only in the 70s, when the Soviet

been softened out. But the broad plan is still the same.

Union decided to take control of the regime, things

What that means for the future of Afghanistan's

changed. Then again, till the Taliban came along,

economy is an important question.

Afghanistan was on nobody's radar. Post-2001, it again became important. So the geopolitical interest in

Is Afghan’s Status Hyped?

Afghanistan has not necessarily been continuous and

The geopolitics that is going to happen, particularly

sustained. We could well see another phase where

in the heartland areas of Central Asia is going to be

Afghanistan ends up becoming a country, which not

driven by a number of considerations, which in some

everyone is particularly interested in. It could become

ways, is what the US-China rivalry is all about today. It

a backwater, as it was during various times. So I don't

is not the Cold War of the old style where it was a

think that we need to put an exaggerated importance

military or a purely ideological competition between

on Afghanistan. This is particularly important point for

two systems—the democracies in the free world versus

Indian policymakers to understand, because our

autocratic China—but actually the competition is much

Afghanistan policy is more or less seen through the

wider. It is more about patterns of development,

prism of Pakistan. Over indexing the fact that

technology and innovation. It is about who can be more

Afghanistan matters to India in the context of Pakistan,

acceptable and competitive with others. From that

or in the context of China can actually lead to other

perspective, Afghanistan will remain an important

consequences or problems for us. We do not have a

laboratory, within which, to observe this kind of new

land border with Afghanistan and it is very difficult for

geopolitical rivalry between United States and China.

us to have any significant political influence with a

The other question is: how important is Afghanistan

regime like the Taliban. 

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