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RON ALDRIDGE 250 Canyon Oaks Dr., Argyle, TX 76226 (940) 455-2519 noacman@aol.com

PRESIDENT CRAIG LEIGHTY 1012 Bartlett PI., Pleasanton, CA 94566 (925) 484-0602 craig.leighty@gene.ge.com

EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENTS ADMINISTRATION BILL TOPKIS 2580 Silver Cloud Ct., Park City, UT 84060 (435) 655-8899 topkis@sisna.com

GENE BERMAN 8801 35th Avenue, Jackson Heights, NY 11372 (718) 458-2292 gberman@webspan.net BRUCE DORDICK 916 Tannerie Run Rd., Ambler, PA 19002 (215) 628-8644 brucedor@aol.com SAM FAIRCHILD PO Box 341, Brookside, NJ 07926 (973) 543-4443 Samchild7@aol.com CHRIS JENSEN PO Box 1841, Easley, SC 29641 (864) 859-2915 cjensen@streamwoodnet ROY MORE 2484 Dundee Dr., Ann Arbor, MI48103 (313) 663-6203 ramore@umich.edu J CONLEY WILLIAMS PO Box 23374, Waco, TX 76702 (817) 772-1106 trader@hottrader.com

ADVERTISING JOHN PLEASANTS 1478 Old Coleridge Rd., Siler City, NC 27344 (919) 742-5199 pleasant@emji.net

COMMUNICATIONS JAMES ELLIS 2915 W Charleston, Suite 4, Las Vegas, NV 89102 (702) 878-7268 qatarmanmi@aol.com

MARKETING SCOTT SHACKLETON 3115 Divisadero #3, San Francisco, CA 94123 (415) 740-1448 mygallery@home.com

FINANCE DOUG KRUTILEK 9025 Alcosta Blvd., #230, San Ramon, CA 94583 (925) 829-8878 doug3toe@aol.com

LEGAL DAVE THOMAS 5339 Spring Valley Rd, Dallas, TX 75240 (817) 261-0570 FirstFlaps@aol.com

SPECIAL EVENTS DAVE MINNIHAN 2300 Fairview G202, Costa Mesa, CA 92626 (714) 641-4845 Dave.Minnihan@bowne.com

MEMBERSHIP MIKE MCABEE PO Box 10862, Yakima, WA 98909 (509) 225-4507 gattati12@aol.com

WORLD WIDE WEB MITCH REIS 883 Matianuck Avenue, Windsor, CT 06095 (860) 688-4581 mitchreis@home.com

ADVISORY COMMITIEE JEFF ANSLEY 2378 NW Schmidt Way, Apt 133, Beaverton, OR 97006 (503) 645-9482 jansley@earthlink.net JAMES ARRIOLA 2296 Flanigan Ct, Las Vegas, NV 89142 ravs4fun@aol.com MARK CHILLUTTI 7903 Revere St, Philadelphia, PA 19152

(215) 708-0399 JEFF FELDMAN 5410 Fenwood Avenue, Woodland Hills, CA 91367 (818) 883-4720 fax: (818) 883-2220 jfbf@ix.netcomcom PAUL GREGO 265 Comfield CiT., Lewistown, PA 17044 (717) 242-2546 pmgrego@acsworldnet BOB HANNAH 7403 132nd Circle, Savage, MN 55378 JEF HECKINGER PO Box 1492, Rockford, IL 61105 (815) 965-2121 LYNN HORNE 2915 W Charleston Blvd Ste 4, Las Vegas, NV 89102 (702) 878-7268 Ivismpresident@aol.com GARY HYNDOWITZ 4509 E Monte Way, Phoenix, AZ 85044 (480) 893-7582 Hindeex3@home.com DAVE LEUBITZ 1778 Goodyear Blvd, Akron, OH 44305 (330) 784-2299 JOE SCHLOSS 2078 Navarro Ave., Pasadena, CA 91103 (626) 398-8186 joeschloss@jps.net DOUG SEABORNE 2261 W 900 N, Edinburgh, IN 46124 (812) 526-2955 dseab@juno.com BRUCE SHELLEY 1923 N Windham Ct, Arlington Heights, IL 60004 (847) 259-7127 shelleyotte@home.com

REGIONAL & AREA VICE-PRESIDENTS EAST CENTRAL REGIONAL VICE-PRESIDENT: BOB CYLKOWSKI, 2508 Waterbury PI., Champaign, I L 61822 (217) 398-1189 baluga538@aol.com EAST CENTRAL AREA VICE-PRESIDENTS: Indiana: Wes Swails, PO Box 47821, Indianapolis, IN 46247 (317) 786-9126 NORTHEAST REGIONAL VICE-PRESIDENT: ROY WETHERBEE, 507 South St., Shrewsbury, MA 01545 (508) 842-6038 royalty@tiac.net NORTHEAST AREA VICE-PRESIDENTS: Maryland & DC: Michael Radin, 23 Windwhisper Ln., Annapolis, MD 21403 (410) 263-6082; New York: Bill Mulrenin 261 68th St, Brooklyn, NY 11220 (718) 748-9644 billmul@mindspring.com; Massachusetts & Rhode Island: Martin Wasznicky, 12 Emery Rd., Townsend, MA 01469 (978) 597-6228 silverfox@net1 plus.com NORTH CENTRAL REGIONAL VICE-PRESIDENT: THOMAS ASHTON, 728 Nicollet Blvd. #E, Burnsville, MN 55337 (952) 898-4125 toroas@aol.com NORTH CENTRAL AREA VICE-PRESIDENTS: Area 3: Kirk Doan, 2600 Grand Blvd., Kansas City, MO 64108 (816) 691-2600 kirkdoan@qnLcom;Area 4: Robert Kruml, 7821 N. Hazlewood Dr., Lincoln, NE 68510 (402) 483-6292 SOUTHEAST REGIONAL VICE-PRESIDENT: TERRY GROVE, 2048 Shadyhill Ter., Winter Park, FL 32792 (407) 679-5687 groveagle@cfLrr.com SOUTHEAST AREA VICE-PRESIDENTS: Georgia: Andy Dubill, 2200 Fairfax Dr., Alpharetta, GA 30004 (770) 346-9713 adubill@aol.com; Mississippi: Wally Majors, PO Box 14066, Jackson, MS 39236 (601) 856-5745 wm700@aol.com SOUTH CENTRAL REGIONAL VICE-PRESIDENT: TRACY MESLER, PO Box 539, Nocona, TX 76255 (940) 825-4438 tracymesler@yahoo.com SOUTH CENTRAL AREA VICE-PRESIDENTS: Area 1: Stephen Ross, 2110 Summerland Dr. N, Richmond, TX 77469 (713) 342-7036; Area 2: John Ryan, 4109 Meadow Dr., Grapevine, TX 76051 (817) 571-4970 t32ryan@aol.com; Area 3: Terry Hanna, 2600 W. Coffee Creek Rd., Edmond, OK 73003 (405) 528-1629 WESTERN REGIONAL VICE-PRESIDENT: TODD HATFIELD, PO Box 715, Lyons, OR 97358 that@wvLcom WESTERN AREA VICE-PRESIDENTS: Alaska: Alan Sorum, PO Box 3218, Valdex, AK 99686 (907) 835-2085 asorum@ak.net; Arizona: Gary Hnydowitz, 4509 E. Monte Way, Phoenix, AZ 85044 (480) 893-7582 Hindeex3@home.com; Southern Calif-LA: Allen Silva, 195 S Kathleen Ln., Orange, CA 92869 (714) 771-0588; Southern Calif-San Diego: Rick Rolf, 216 Richrnond Park PI., Chula Vista, CA 9191 0 (619) 422-2515 ashieman@prodigy.net; Idaho: Louis Olaso, 7004 Brentwood Dr., Boise, ID 83709 (208) 323-058110Iaso@rnicron.net; Oregon: Paul Collett, 10975 SW Mira Ct, Tigard, OR 97223 (503) 620-7314 collett@pacifier.com; Washington State: Kevin Rudesill, 5431 Steamboat Island Rd., Olympia, WA 98502 (360) 866-9700 tillicumchief@earthlink.net AUSTRAILIA I NEW ZEALAND: SUE KEBBLEWHITE, 69 Vistoria St., Carterton 5951, NZ 011-64-6-379-6956 pebbles@contacLneLnz AFRICA/SOUTHWEST ASIA: PHILLIP ABBEY, P.O. Box 151355, San Diego, CA 92175 The International Scouting Collectors Association Journal, "The ISCA Journal," (ISSN 1535-1092) is the official quarterly publication of the The International Scouting Collectors Association, Inc. (ISCA) and is issued in March, June, September, and December by the International Scouting Collectors Association., Inc., 2915 W Charleston Blvd., Suite 2, Las Vegas, NV 89102. Periodicals Postage Paid at Las Vegas, NV 89102. Annual membership dues are $25 adults, $10 youth under 18, US$40 overseas. $21 of the annual dues is allocated to the subscription of the International Scouting Collectors Association Journal. The International Scouting Collectors Association, Inc. is a non-profit organization which is staffed and operated solely by volunteers and has no affiliation with the Boy Scouts of America. Views expressed in this publication are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the official position of the International Scouting Collectors Association, Inc. ©2001, International Scouting Collectors Association, Inc. Printed in the USA. POSTMASTER: Send address changes to The International Scouting Collectors Association Journal, c/o Michael R. McAbee, PO Box 10862, Yakima, WA 98909

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EDITOR JAMES ELLIS 2915 W. CHARLESTON, SUITE 4 LAS VEGAS, NV 89102 Phone (702) 878-7268 Fax: (702) 822-2020 journaledit@aol.com

ADVERTISING MANAGER ROGER WARD P.O. Box 1201, Nokomis, FL 34274 (941) 492-5389 f1patches@aol.com

COLUMNISTS CIRCLING THE DRUM: SAM FAIRCHILD P.O. Box 341, Brookside, NY 07926 (973) 543-4443 Samchild7@aol.com COLLECTING CAMP PATCHES: BOB SHERMAN 4640 Main St, Stratford, CT 06614 (203) 378-9154

footdoc7@optonline.net COLLECTING IN CYBERSPACE: BEN PHARR P.O. Box 1364, University, MS 38827-0193 (601) 454-7154 bnpharr@olemiss.edu COLLECTING Q & A: ANDY DUBILL 2200 Fairfax Drive, Alpharetta, GA 30004-1477 (770) 346-9713 adubill@aoLcom THE CSP CORNER: STEVE AUSTIN & DAVE FRANCK 8237 Tuna Path, Liverpool, NY 13090 (315) 456-1511 saustin@twcny.rr.com 2130 Richbrook Drive, Garland, TX 75044 (972) 530-7863 d. franck@verizon.net FOR YOUR INFORMATION: PAUL E. MYERS, JR 59347 County Road 17, Goshen, IN 46526 (219) 875-6486 gimogash@earthlink.net GIRL SCOUT MEMORABILIA: TOM ASHTON 728 E. Nicollet Blvd., #E, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 898-4125 toroas@aol.com

FEATURES ISCA DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD ELECTION OF OFFICERS YOU COULD GO DIRECTLY TO EAGLE IN SEARCH OF - THE REAL CHAUTAUQUA

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COLUMNS Chairman's and President's Messages Editor's Notes Vintage Order of the Arrow Pictures Of The Quarter Heard On Patch L Collecting Camp Patches Looking for Red & Whites The Badge Collector's Corner Neckerchief Slides The CSP Corner Trade-O-Ree Calendar High Adventure OA News For Your Information Collecting In Cyberspace Collecting Q & A 1-for-1 Trading Page Advertisements

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HOBBY TRENDS: ROY MORE 2484 Dundee Drive, Ann Arbor, MI 48103 (313) 663-6203 ramore@umich.edu HIGH ADVENTURE: J. CONLEY WILLIAMS P.O. Box 23374, Waco, TX 76702 (254) 772-1106 jwilliams@hotrr.com

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INTERNATIONAL BADGES: HAROLD DAW Escuela Campo Alegre, 8424 NW 56th Street, Suite CCS00007 Miami, FL 33166-3327 harold_daw@eca.com NECKERCHIEF SLIDES: JOHN KOPPEN 12705 NW Puddy Gulch Rd., Yamhill, OR 97148 (503) 662-3953 mrncslide@netscape.net ORDER OF THE ARROW NEWS: DAVE MINNIHAN & BRUCE SHELLEY 2300 Fairview, G202, Costa Mesa, CA 92626 (714) 641-4845 dave.minnihan@bowne.com

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Ron Aldridge Chairman

Hi all. So much has happened nationally and internationally since our last issue that it seems almost unimportant to get this issue out. But, if we let the terrorists disrupt our hobby, then they have won and we have lost. Scouting is one of the few organizations that promotes freedom in the world. Let us not let fear disrupt our hobby. We might chose to drive to more Trade-ORees and fly to less - that's just common sense, but attend them we will and participate in them we must. Take out your collection and look at your patches. Note all the symbols of freedom and the American way. How many of you have started collecting patches that have the American flag on them? Now there's a collection that would be fun - and make a statement! September 11 th has helped bring us all closer together. Petty differences disappear when our way of life is attacked. What better patriots does this country have than Scouts and former Scouts?

That might be part of the reason that so very many military officers - particularly those of higher rank - are Eagle Scouts. ISCA is a gathering ground of patriots and Scouts/Scouters - who happen to enjoy collecting patches. Let us never forget that we are all brothers (and sisters).

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How time flies - we're already approaching our one-year anniversary for the formation of ISCA (which resulted from the merger of the American Scouting Traders Association and the National Scouting Collectors Society). In summary, we're doing really, really well. The merger has gone surprisingly smooth and now in one organization we have the combined resources of the two predecessor organizations working together for the good of the hobby. The board has grown in size, but not to the point where it is unwieldy. Most everyone actually has a job description and a list of short term and long term goals. A few of the more prominent goals and activities are as follows: a marketing plan is being developed that will help to inform others outside our hobby what we're all about; enhancements to our web-site; increased presence at national events (NOAC of course, but we've also formed a committee to formulate a plan for the 2005 BSA National Jamboree); trade-o-ree growth (in quality, quantity, and also increased attendance); trading/collecting resources - more/better/standardized; ISCA Ethics enforcement, etc.

Election of Officers/Board Members: As mentioned in the last newsletter, we're going to staggered terms for ISCA elected officers and board members (approximately 1/3 of the officers and board members will be up for election each year). You will find a ballot on page 6 of this issue. Please make sure you take the time to vote.

National Order of the Arrow Conference (NOAC) 2002: If you are going to NOAC next summer in Bloomington, Indiana, July 27th - August 1st, and/or the Pre-NOAC Trade-O-Ree the preceding weekend, please consider volunteering to help by serving on the ISCA Scouting Memorabilia Staff. At the 2000 NOAC, about 80 people volunteered and they all had a lot of fun working 2 - 4 hours during NOAC or the Pre-NOAC Trade-O-Ree. You must be already attending NOAC as a contingent member or be on NOAC staff to be on the ISCA Memorabilia Staff at NOAC. As was the case at the last NOAC, each person that signs up in advance to be on staff will get a special NOAC - ISCA staff badge and will also be entitled to purchase a special limited edition NOAC ISCA staff patch. Chris Jensen is the chairman for NOAC 2002 activities. Watch for more details in future issues of the Journal.

As with any new endeavour, no matter how hard you try, errors seem to creep in. I guess you might say that Murphy is alive and well. In any event, I need to make a few corrections/clarifications to the last ISCA Journal. First, the survey shown on page 6 and attributed to the The Scout Patch Collector's Base Camp was actually done by Rusty Van Reeves at The Ultimate Multimedia Reference Guide For Collectors. Second, the decision to omit Bob Sherman's article on collecting Camp Patches was due solely to space limitations resulting from the large Jamboree articles.

Bob's article was one of the first I received.

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ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

ISCA.s Board of Directors is pleased to announce that it is accepting nominations for the 2002 Distinguished Service Award. The award is given annually for distinguished service to the hobby and Scouting.

ISCA members may submit nominations along with a biography covering the criteria listed below to Gene Berman, Chairman of the Awards Committee, either by email at gberman@webspan.net (no attachments) or by regular mail to his attention at 8801 35th Ave., Jackson Heights, NY 11372.

All nominations will be considered by the Executive Board and the names and biographies of those considered most worthy by the Board will be published in the next ISCA Journal. Each member in good standing will be entitled to one vote and the candidates with the most votes shall be declared the winner.

Nominees should be collectors of Scouting memorabilia who have distinguished themselves by the quality of their collection, by the unselfish sharing of information through writing articles, books, etc., by giving service to various collecting organizations, by providing information in a variety of formats, and by being a positive force in the hobby. Additionally, nominees should have a demonstrated record of service to Scouting.

Prior recipients of the Distinguished Service Award and its predecessors are shown on the right. They are not eligible to receive the DSA.

To be considered, nominations must be received by Gene on or before January 15, 2002.

Prior recipients of the ISCA Scouting Memorabilia Distinguished Service Award (including predecessor awards) are as follows: Carmella Russo E. Forest Reynolds Elmer Fennert Paul Myers Dave Leubitz Bill Price John Sell Bernie Miller Raymond Lee Brian Lee Don Isbell Mike Fulco Cliff Alexander Paul Kramer Jack Mitzman Prince Watkins George Boxer

The award winners are listed in order from the first to most recent. Some individuals were awarded the award more than once since they received it from one or more of the predecessor organizations that now make up ISCA.

ISCA WEB SITE http://ScoutTrader.Org

MEMBERSHIP RENEWALS Check your mailing label to see if your dues expire with this issue. If they do expire in December 2001, please send them in promptly. A renewal reminder may also be mailed but don't count on it and risk missing an issue! Now would be a good time to check your collecting codes too and update them if needed.

Back Issues Available American STAR Vol 10#2, 3,4 (1995) Vol 11 #1,2,3,4 (1996) Vol 12#1, 2, 3, 4 (1997) Vol 13#1, 2, 3, 4 (1998) Vol 14 #1,2,3,4 (1999) Vol 15 #1,2,3,4 (2000)

Alan O'Connor Bill Kern Paul Myers Ken Wiltz Harry Thorsen Dave Minnihan Bernie Miller Dwight Bischel Gene Berman Albertus Hoogeveen Mitch Reis Raymond Lee David Leubitz Conley Williams Raymond Lee Bill Topkis Terry Grove

The ISCA web site is you source for up-to-date information about ISCA and our hobby. The REFERENCE Sections contain tons of collecting related links. Find out about trading events in the TRADE-O-REE section and read about official ISCA information in the NEWS & INFORMATION Section.

New in the MEMBERS ONLY section is a much requested Searchable Membership Roster and an on-line ballot for this year's Scouting Memorabilia Distinguished Service Award.

The following can be used to access the MEMBERS ONLY Section on our web site: USER NAME

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For comments, questions, problerns, or suggestions about the site; please contact our webmaster -- Mitch Reis at MitchReis@Home.Com.

Scouting Collectors Quarterly Vol 5: #2, 3 Vol 6: #4 Vol 8: #2, 3, 4 Vol 9: #1, 2, 3 Vol 10: All issues Vol 11 : #2, 4 Vol 12: #2,4 Volume's 13 - 22: All issues Back issues of the American STAR and Scouting Collectors Quarterly are available while supplies last. The cost is $2.95 each or one fiap patch, plus $3.95 shipping and handling [for 1 to 8 issues][domestic only]. Please make checks payable to: International Scouting Collectors Association or ISCA and send orders to: Chris Jensen, PO Box 1841, Easley, SC 29641, (864) 8592915 cjensen@strearnwood.net ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

This issue's color cover has been sponsored by:

CHRIS JENSEN & STREAMWOOD INC. If you would like to sponsor one of our color covers or inserts, please contact the Advertising Manager.

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International Scouting Collectors Association Election of Officers In accordance with the By-laws of the International Scouting Collectors Association (ISCA) the following candidates are hereby presented to the members of ISCA for a vote.

Ballot of Officers Three Year Terms Chairman - Ron Aldridge

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Executive Vice President - Legal - Dave Thomas

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Executive Vice President - Communications - Jim Ellis

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Executive Vice President - Administration - Roger Ward

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Member-at-Iarge Executive Board (Vote for no more than two out of three) Irv Block Bruce Dordick Conley Williams

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Two Year Terms President - Craig Leighty

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Executive Vice President - World Wide Web - Mitch Reis

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Executive Vice President - Advertising - John Pleasants

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Executive Vice President - Special Events - Chris Jensen

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Member-at-Iarge Executive Board - Dave Minnihan

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Member-at-Iarge Executive Board - Roy More

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Executive Vice President - Finance - Doug Krutilek

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Executive Vice President - Membership - Mike McAbee

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Executive Vice President - Marketing - Scott Shackleton

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Member-at-Iarge Executive Board - Gene Berman

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Member-at-Iarge Executive Board - Sam Fairchild

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One Year Terms

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You may vote via email, online or by mailing this ballot.

Vote via email at:topkis@sisna.com Mark subject line ISCA Election Vote by mail to:

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Park City, UT 84060-7068. http://ScoutTrader.Org

Please sign your name _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ Please print your name _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ Member Number (required - please find on mailing label) _ _ __ A photocopy of this ballot is acceptable.

The deadline to submit a ballot is January 20, 2002

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The History of the Chenille Part I - Our Order's First Cloth Emblems 1915-1939

By BILL TOPKIS and JEFF MORLEY During a recent discussion about Order of the Arrow patches, the subject turned to OA chenilles. "Why do they exist?" someone asked. "What purpose do they serve?"

When considering chenilles issued these days, some people might argue that they serve little purpose.

They are virtually never worn. Modern chenilles are created exclusively as collectibles, fundraisers, or souvenirs.

"emblem" means more and is the term used

by Lodges from the 1920's-1960. The term emblem refers to the fact that the piece of insignia is emblematic of the lodge and its

Figure 1 - Arrow pin; this particular example dates to 1919 and basically is the same as the pins sold today.

In this first part of our three part series on the History of chenilles we look at the origin of the chenille patch and how it ties in to our Order's earliest history.

In the beginning there were no ernblems. There was only one lodge: Unami. By 1916 written records confirm the simple arrow pin (Figure 1) and eventually the Brotherhood totem pin became the standard piece of insignia for new lodges (Figure 2) [Note a promise has been made to the Editor to explore these Brotherhood totem pins in a future ISeA article].

But that is not how they started. Originally they were the first cloth emblems of Wimachtendink W.w (Order ofthe Arrow) and WWW,asthethree letter had a very significant abbreviation implies, was purpose.

These Figure 2 - Unami Lodge a fraternal organization.

Figure 3 - Treasure Island emblems confirmed full Starting with the Masons, Brotherhood pin Camper monogram - Circa 1921 membership in what insignia had been used to Circa 1921. would become identify membership in a Scouting's greatest fraternity. Likewise, the camp fraternity. Today's chenilles are a vestige values and rnost importantly, membership. young Wimachdentienk fraternity used totem of our Order; a leftover from our distant WWW Blue Book III lists 551 chenilles, but only a pins. However, by 1926 the first cloth badges past. fraction of them were issued as the official appeared. It is no surprise that the medium selected would be chenille. While felt emblems emblem of their lodge. The rest have relatively insignificant rneaning compared to their trade As discussed in past articles, our use of the existed such as sirnple arrows for WWW or terrn "Emblems" is deliberate. Today we call or collectible value. monograms for camps (Figure 3), it was the lodge insignia "patches" or "badges". The term chenille that was the most fraternal emblem.

Figure 4 - Photograph taken in 1919 on the roof of the BSA Fifth Avenue Headquarters in New York City. James West welcomed this group from the Tribe of Gimogash, Toledo, Ohio and proclaimed them the largest group of Eagle Scouts to ever visit National Headquarters. Note the distinctive chenille on their sweaters.

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Chenilles dating from the turn of the century had been favored by college fraternities and high school letterman for their sweaters.

They were more expensive and intricate than simple felt emblems and it was believed that they best conveyed the sense of Brotherhood.

fraternal Brothers; a part of the family. The significance of the emblems issued to brotherhood members can not be overstated: they literally confirmed to all who knew that a Brother had sealed his membership in the WWW fraternity with the exchange of blood and by so doing had The earliest example of a Scout become a true Brother in Wimachtendienk. (The same fraternity using a chenille emblem was not WWW.lt is also true with the was the Tribe of aforementioned Gimogash that sported Brotherhood Totem the BSA's first known pins). They were chenille emblem worn proudly on their (Figure 4 and 5). It fraternity sweater, Figure 5 - Tribe of Gimogash large was worn on the robe, and breach Chenille (circa 1919) society's sweater and clout (a practice that dates back to 1919 or earlier. would later give rise to the "patch" jacket).

At the Sixth Meeting of the Grand Lodge held in 1926 and hosted by Minsi Lodge at Indiandale Scout Camp (Figure 6) near Reading, PA the Grand Lodge (the original governing body for WWW prior to the National Order of the

Thus it was at this 1926 meeting that not only were chenilles authorized, but the entire concept of lodge badges was officially sanctioned and encouraged. And our hobby was soon to follow.

The number of chenilles known to exist prior to 1940 is few.

Minsi Lodge 5 was certainly the most prolific. In 1932 they issued a "flat chenille" (Figure 8).

Figure 6 - Indian dale camp Flat chenille is pennant circa 1926. characterized by Indiandale closed circa 1932. stitched loops ofthe chenille chain Arrow Committee) authorized lodges to adopt stitched onto the fell. In 1939 Mannaseh, a totem with an arrow superimposed as a Lodge 81 of East St. Louis, IL issued a chenille Second Degree emblem (Second Degree, (Figure 9). While these examples represent became the Brotherhood Honor in 1934). As the small group of known chenilles, it is likely is often the case, this authorization was that there were other lodges that may have brought about because of the pre-existence also issued chenilles. of chenille totems used by at least two lodges, Ranachaqua Lodge 4, Bronx, NY (Figure 7) Perhaps the most significant chenilles of the and from Minsi Lodge 5. (See center four wolf 1930's were issued by Anicus Lodge 67 of emblems on cover). It is also speculated that Wilkinsburgh, PA. In 1936 they issued their the Grand Lodge may have felt the need to first chenille emblem. This issue has a compete with the Tribe of Gimogash and their distinctive light gray stripe (later replaced with chenille emblems. a dark yellow stripe) and comes on brown felt as well as light blue fell. (Figure 10). The The Second Degree at this time was also significance of the brown and light blue colors known as the "Blood Rite". In that era, the coremains shrouded in mystery. In 1939 a small mingling of blood was required to become a band of Anicus Lodge Brothers trekked to full member of the fraternity and become nearby Middletown, OH and performed the first

Figure 9 - Mannaseh Lodge 81 C1

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Ordeal for the Order's newest Lodge, Nachenum Lodge 145.

Their new brethren were so taken by the Anicus chenille that they copied the design, except for the totem, replacing the Anicus chipmunk with the Nachenum Figure 7 - Ranachqua raccoon (Figure Lodge 4 chenille.

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Figure 10 - Ancius Lodge 67 C1 "The Gray Stripe".

Figure 8 - Minsi Lodge 5 "flat chenille" Anicus Lodge hosted the 1940 25 tl1 anniversary ofThe Order of the Arrow meeting at their Camp Twin Echo. A "CTE" camp chenille was available to all delegates (figure 11) and no doubt most of the participants took notice of their host's distinctive lodge chenille.

These events, combined with the Standard Pennant Company's influence and promotion of chenille badges (see related article on the Standard Pennant Co. in Blue Book 3, pp 866872), created an explosion of interest in chenille badges. Perhaps, the greatest era of Order of the Arrow chenilles was just around the corner.

Next time: History of the Chenille - Part Two - The Golden Age of Chenille 1940-1959.

Figure 11 - Nachenum Lodge

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Figure 12 - Camp Twin Echo 1940 chenille ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

by TERRY GROVE

The common understanding of advancement in scouting at the present time is that each rank is built on the previous rank.

So, a scout begins at the bottom of the Trail to Eagle and continues his climb through the ranks. However, records from 1910 until sometime in 1914 do not support this theory.

In the first four years of the organizational existence of the Boy Scouts of America, from 1910 to 1914, it was possible to become an Eagle Scout without having achieved either Life or Star Scout. Believe it or not!!

At its inception the Boy Scouts of America had only three rank advancements Tenderfoot, Second Class, and First Class.

Life, Star, and Eagle were considered to be "super badges of merit" which could be earned, but not considered rank advancements.

The Boy Scouts of America advancement program was developed based upon the movement in England, which had three rank advancements - Tenderfoot, Second Class and First Class. Baden-Powell presented his program in his 1908 book entitled Scouting For Boys, outlining a system of eaming badges for specific skills beyond the rank advancement which he called "badges of honour." Originally, there were four "badges of honour": Signaling, First Aid, Stalking, and Merit. The Merit "badge of honour" was earned "for 20 good marks of various good deeds." In addition to these four "badges of honour," BadenPowell developed an extra-special badge which he called "The Wolf'.

"The Red Indians of North America" he explained, "called their best scout 'Grey Wolf' because the grey wolf is a beast that sees everything and yet is never seen. And the fighting tribes in South Africa, in the same way, speak of a scout as a wolf. In the Matabele War, 1896-97, the enemy called me 'The Wolf' for that reason. Mr. Thompson Seton, the head of the 'Red Indian' Boy Scouts of America, is called 'Black Wolf'.

So in the Boy Scouts a special badge and title of Wolf will be given as a reward for very special distinction in Scouting."

One year later, in 1909, Baden-Powell added to the advancement and recognition system and revised his book. He added ten more "badges of honour" to his advancement IseA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

program and changed the name from "badges of honour" to "badges of merit".

Furthermore, he created additional special recognition by combining the "badges of merit." For any six "badges of merit" eamed, a "shoulder line" could be placed on the Scoutcraft

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Seaman, Marksman, Master-at-Arms Stalker, Gardener, Horseman, Electrician: and Musician. Shoulder lines were awarded for six badges of merit, and the highest award was the "Silver Wolf," awarded for earning all fourteen badges of merit.

The next step in the evolution of the Eagle Scout Award took place as James E. West became the first Chief Scout Executive and took office on January 1, 1911. (Ernest Thompson Seton was called the Chief Scout,) West named four committees to help advance scouting. One of the committees was named Scout Oath and Law and Requirements. Its job included establishing requirements for the ranks and additional "badges of merit." The new committee adopted Baden-Powell's and Seton's tests for Tenderfoot, Second Class, and First Class. In accepting the "badges of merit," they added new "badges of merit" to the list, bringing the total to 57.

It also accepted the combining of certain badges to create new advancement opportunities that would encourage the scout's continued growth and participation Wolf Scout Any first~dass s(,out qualifying for in the program. However, these additional twenty-OJne merit badges will be entitled to wcaT thf: higlwst scout merit badge. advancements given for combinations of This is a wolf's head ill silver, and repthe "badges of merit" were called "super resents the all-round perfect scout. badges of merit." They were named Life, Illustration No.1) Star, and Silver Wolf. The Shoulder Lines uniform sleeve. If a scout earned all 14 were replaced with the Life and the Star "badges of merit" he was given the highest while the Silver Wolf remained the highest "super badge of merit." (see Illustration No. honor - the "Silver Wolf'.

1) As the committee developed these additional opportunities for advancement, it In 1910, as the Boy Scouts of America was remained clear that the ranks of scouting incorporated and begun, Ernest Thompson Seton was selected Chief Scout. He rushed would only be Tenderfoot, Second Class, to produce a book to help and guide the and First Class. newly formed Boy Scouts of America. He asked Baden-Powell for permission to use the materials in his book, Scouting For Boys.

Baden-Powell agreed. Seton also used the materials from his own publication, The Birch Bark Roll. Much of his material had already been published in various magazines during ten years prior to 1910. This new book was called Boy Scouts of America - Official Handbook.

Seton's book simply copied, verbatim, some 50 pages from Baden-Powell's book, including the advancement and recognition program. The ranks would be Tenderfoot, Second Class, and First Class. There were fourteen listed badges of merit; Ambulance, Fireman, Cyclist, Clerk, Signaller, Pioneer,

Now, the Boy Scouts of America was ready to publish its own official handbook. The first proof edition of the handbook, published in June 1911, included parts of Baden-Powell's Scouting For Boys, sections of Ernest Thompson Seton's, Birch Bark Rolls, and the work of the Committee on the Scout Oath and Law and Requirements. Four-thousand, six-hundred proof copies of the book were distributed to leaders of industry, educators, boys work directors, boys club leaders, Scout Commissioners, and Scoutmasters asking for their review, support, and response. They were given one month to respond.

The country's leadership loved the proposed Scouting program, but felt the Nation's 9

emblem, the eagle, should be the name of the highest award in scouting. Dan Beard, who had emerged as the first National Scout Commissioner, supported the idea of the Eagle as well. Therefore, after much discussion by the national leadership, and before the first edition of the book was published for use by the Boy Scouts of America program, the highest award was renamed the Eagle.

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The first handbook published by the Boy Scouts of America was called THE OFFICIAL HANDBOOK FOR BOYS, and it was published, August 1911 ,

by Doubleday, Page & Company, New York. On page 45 in the book were the following requirements: Life Scout "super badge of merit" could only be earned by a First Class Scout who passed the tests for the "badges of merit"; Athletics, First Aid, Lifesaving, Personal Health, and Public Health.

Star Scout "super badge of merit" could only be earned by a First Class Scout who had passed the tests for the five "badges of merit" for Life Scout, plus the tests for any five additional "badges of merit."

The Eagle Scout "super badge of merit" was the highest honor in the advancement program. The Eagle Scout badge could only be earned by a First Class Scout who passed the tests for a total of 21 "badges of merit." This is an eagle's head in silver, and represents the all-around perfect scout."

There were no specific "badges of merit" required, nor was being a Life Scout and Star Scout required (see Illustration No.2).

You could go directly to Eagle after becoming a First Class Scout!!!

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Animals, Gardening, Handicraft, Machinery, Masonry, Mining, Music, Painting, Pathfinding, Personal Health, Photography, Printing, Public Health, and Swimming Sidney Clapp (31 merit badges) (first adult to earn the Eagle) West Shokan, New York No Athletics, First Aid (No Life or Star)

Agriculture, Astronomy, Bee Farming, Business, Camping, Carpentry, Chemistry, Conversation, Cooking, Craftsmanship, Cycling, Electricity, Firemanship, First Aid to Animals, Forestry, Gardening, Handicraft, Horsemanship, Interpreting, Life Saving, Painting, Pathfinding, (Illustration No.2) Personal Health, Photography, Arthur Eldred (21 merit badges) (youth) Pioneering, Poultry Farming, Public Rockville Center, Long Island, NY Health, Seamanship, Surveying, and Swimming Arthur Eldred was the first Eagle Scout..

Eldred's Eagle badge was approved by the Robert T. Pleasants (24 merit badges) National Court of Honor at its August 1912 (youth) - West Shokan, NY meeting, after a stringent Board of Review conducted by James E. West, Ernest No Athletics, Life Saving Thompson Seton, and Dan Beard. Mr. (No Life or Star) Eldred did not earn either the Athletics or the First Aid "badges of merit" and, thus, could Astronomy, Bee Farming, Bugling, not have earned Life or Star. Merit Badges Civics, Cooking, Craftsmanship, earned by Arthur Eldred were: Cycling, Firemanship, First Aid, Forestry, Gardening, Handicraft, Business, Chemistry, Civics, Cooking, Masonry, Music, Painting, Pathfinding, Cycling, Dairying, Electricity, Personal Health, Photography, Firemanship, First Aid to Animals, Pioneering, Plumbing, Poultry Farming, Gardening, Handicraft, Horsemanship, Public Health, Seamanship, and Interpreting, Lifesaving, Painting, Swimming Pathfinding, Personal Health, Plumbing, Poultry Farming, Public Leon Van Vliet (24 merit badges) (youth) Health, and Swimming West Shokan, NY Earl Marx (21 merit badges) (youth) Jacksonville, Florida Achieved Life and Star

Further proof that a scout could earn the Eagle Scout Award without earning the Life and Star is found in looking at the merit badges that the first nine Eagle Scouts earned. Only Earl Marx earned the Life and Star Scout recognition. The remaining eight scouts who earned the Eagle Scout Award did not earn Life or Star.

Art, Astronomy, Athletics, Aviation, Bee Farming, Civics, Craftsmanship, Cycling, Electricity, Firemanship, First Aid, First Aid to Animals, Handicraft, Interpreting, Life Saving, Machinery, Personal Health, Pioneering, Public Health, Seamanship, and Swimming

Keeping in mind that a Life Scout had to pass the test for Athletics, First Aid, Lifesaving, Personal Health and Public Health, here is the list of the first 9 Eagle Scouts and the merit badges that they earned.

Roy Young (24 merit badges) (youth) - Saint Paul, Minnesota No Athletics, First Aid, Life Saving (No Life or Star) Art, Automobiling, Business, Camping, Carpentry, Civics, Cooking, Craftsmanship, Cycling, Firemanship, First Aid to

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No Athletics, First Aid (No Life or Star) Astronomy, Bee Farming, Camping, Civics, Cooking, Craftsmanship, Cycling, Firemanship, First Aid to Animals, Gardening, Handicraft, Horsemanship, Life Saving, Machinery, Masonry, Pathfinding, Personal Health, Pioneering, Poultry Farming, Public Health, Seamanship, Signalling, Surveying, and Swimming Bertram VanVliet (21 merit badges) (youth) - West Shokan, NY No Athletics, First Aid (No Life or Star) Astronomy, Bee Farming, Camping, Civics, Cooking, Craftsmanship, Cycling, Firemanship, First Aid to Animals, Gardening, Handicraft, Horsemanship, Life Saving, Machinery, ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

Pathfinding, Personal Health, Pioneering, Poultry Farming, Public Health, Seamanship, and Swimming

J. S. Langthorn (23 merit badges) (youth) - West Shokan, NY No Athletics (No Life or Star) Astronomy, Bee Farming, Camping, Chemistry, Civics, Cooking, Cycling, Electricity, Firemanship, First Aid, Gardening, Handicraft, Interpreting, Life Saving, Machinery, Pathfinding, Personal Health, Pioneering, Poultry Farming, Public Health, Seamanship, Signalling, and Swimming Francis Edwards (22 merit badges) (youth) - Jacksonville, Florida No Athletics, First Aid, Life Saving (No Life or Star) Architecture, Art, Astronomy, Bee Farming, Business, Camping, Carpentry, Civics, Cooking, Craftsmanship, Cycling, Firemanship, FirstAid toAnimals, Forestry, Machinery, Mining, Painting, Personal Health, Pioneering, Public Health, Signaling, and Swimming In checking all the lists of "badges of merit" earned by the first nine Eagles, only one scout could have achieved Life Scout and continued on to earn Star Scout. It was Earl

Marx, and he did, indeed, earn both the Life and Star.

Under the advancement program that required any 21 "badges of merit" for Eagle, there were 23 scouts who earned the Eagle Scout badge in 1912, and 54 scouts who earned the Eagle Scout badge in 1913.

Then a change in the requirements for Eagle Scout was reported in the Fourth Annual Report of the Boy Scouts of America (1913, page 47), by the following statement: "By recent decision of the Committee on Badges, Awards and Scout

Trivia Question: Is there any one merit badge or more that has been required for the Eagle Scout Award from the beginning until the present?

Previous to this research and discovery, this author had always stated that "First Aid "badge of merit" was the only merit badge that was required of every Eagle Scout. However, it is clear from the research that in the history of Scouting no one "badge of merit" or merit badge, as they are called today, that has been required of every Eagle Scout.

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Requirements, the applicant for the Eagle Scout Badge must hereafter qualify for the five badges for the Life Scout, including Life Saving, the badges of Cooking, Camping, Bird Study, Pathfinding, Pioneering, and Athletics, and any ten others. "

No such requirements existed prior to this time.

Since the Fourth Annual Report (1913) was written in 1914 and presented sometime during that year, the statement above was likely written with a start date in late 1914.

There were 165 Eagle Scout badges given in 1914, but a dramatic drop off occurred in 1915 as only 96 were earned. The 1915 Annual Report stated on page 35, " ... this apparent loss (in numbers) is accounted for by the fact that the standard for the Eagle Badge was raised by making compulsory the securing of the badges in Athletics or Physical Development, Camping, Cooking, First Aid, Life Saving, Pioneering, Pathfinding, Personal Health, Public Health, Bird Study, and Civics, in addition to 10 others which may be chosen from the various subjects."

Are you as amazed as I am in the fact that this discovery has not been part of the Scouting lore these many years? It is clear to me that a Boy Scout in the beginning of the program could go directly to Eagle, if he chose. And many did!

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VISIT OF THE CHIEF SCOUT EXECUTIVE

Roy Williams checks out the Chief Scout Executive patches and pins on display in the Museum.

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While in town for a Heritage Society banquet, Chief Scout Executive Roy Williams took time to visit the Las Vegas International Scouting Museum.

Pictured with Museum President and Founder Robert Lynn Horne, Mr. Williams toured the Museum for about an hour.

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by KEVIN DOYLE PATCH-L CO-OWNER One of the things that make a column like this in a quarterly publication so difficult is the potential for staleness. Much of the Patch-L postings deal with breaking information on what's happening in the collecting field. Patch-L'ers (or L'ers as they have come to call them selves) are often the first to hear about council and lodge mergers, new lodges, new issues and background details on almost all of these things. The information is timely and important when it's posted, but it's usually covered elsewhere in the ISCA Journal when it comes out 1-3 months later. PatchL also has requests for help identifying issues and the ever present offers to trade. But once in a while a thread takes hold and there is a lively discussion on a topic of importance to the hobby.

believe it is incumbent upon knowledgeable traders to inform a seller when an item appears to have been mischaracterized- after additional information has been obtained to validate hislheroriginal suspicion (e.g., writing the seller for clarification about the item)."

"Am I missing something here? These patches belong to someone else. They are not our patches. We are not the police. I know I have no badge. Well, I have a Roy Rogers and Hopalong Cassidy but I don't think that means

"The most important thing we do for boys is to give them the opportunity to fail, and learn by doing so! If a person gets ripped off, he will learn a lot. (And if he never learns it was a fake, what harm does it do to let him feel good about his purchase.)"

"I detest the concept of monitoring Ebay or any other commercial forum. " And finally, a word from the bidder:

"I would like to thank those that contacted me directly and II indicated that the patch I bid on might be a reproduction. Each email to me was respectful to the seller and to me as the bidder. Still others provided links so that I could utilize to verify the patch for myself prior to making any rash decisions regarding my bid. I did send a respectful, in my opinion, email to the seller prior to my bid retraction. I have yet to receive a response. When, and if, I do receive a response I will continue to be respectful of the seller.. .. "

"I detest the concept of monitoring Ebay or any other commercial forum. much. If you want to write to the seller and inform them great. Otherwise it's none of your business. "

Should We Be the Patch Police?

A Patch-L member raised this question after finding a 1973 BSA reproduction of the 1937 National Jamboree patch (I use "reproduction" guardedly - they are not really close) on EBAY. The description said the patch had belonged to his grandfather, who had attended the '37 Jamboree and passed it on to him in 1973. Note that the description doesn't actually say it's the real thing, though he did further describe it as being in great condition for a "64-year old" patch.

The question was asked of the Patch-L membership - What would you do?

Contact the seller? Contact the bidder (who already bid $99; patches identified as reproductions were going for $10 elsewhere on the auction site)? Should you alert EBAY about the "fraud"? Was it really intentional or just ignorance? How do you tell a seller - that doesn't respond to your inquiries about whether or not the patch has a plastic back - that the patch may not be as advertised?

Here's a sampling of points and counterpoints shared by Patch-L members (excerpts in no particular order and were extracted in most cases from much longer posts):

"Of course we should aid a fellow Scout in his collection endeavors if we feel something is being misrepresented. We all benefit in the end. There are plenty of ways to ask questions and clue people in without risking libel or slander. A scout is helpful, just use good common sense."

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"The proper avenue for any such reporting is with the controlling authority.

If I personally knew one or both of the parties, that might affect my decision, but I would not butt in on two strangers' transaction. At any rate, as Jim pointed out, it is the bidder's responsibility to educate himself" "Thanks for all the comments on the "Patch Police" threads. I now feel I used an unfortunate choice of words to start this off. What I really should have said was something like "Patch Neighborhood Watch". I had no interest in organizing anything formal or starting any kind of group with any kind of enforcement power."

"Society has been grappling with this dilemma for a long time. Some sociologists will say that we are more and more unwilling to "get involved" crimes are committed and we turn away and hope we aren't next. I am not putting this on the scale with bodily injury, carjacking, etc. just a note of the underlining emotion."

"If it is a legal transaction in a public forum, then there is no problem. What business do we have butting in?"

Patch-L is the worldwide web's online discussion group and 24 hour trade-o-ree for Scout patches and a/l types of Scouting memorabilia. Membership is free; to apply go the PatchL website, http://www.gilwell.com/ patchl for subscription information.

"I personally believe that if the case arises again that some will step forward to help in a respectful manner in hopes of helping another human being. Others may not, but that is okay. Their action, or inaction, depending upon your point of view, is dictated by what they believe to be right and they will act accordingly. " "Patch Neighborhood Watch" that sounds about right....

Miscellany ...

Patch-L marked a milestone recently with the retirement of its founder, Eric Pierce.

Eric founded Patch-L as a college student after many of us seemed to be hounded every time the word patch appeared in postings on other discussion lists. What started with a couple dozen members of the hobby has grown to more than 700.

Eric has remained a member but moved on to the position of founder emeritus to devote more time to his career as an EMT, unit activities, and family. Taking over from Eric is Don Shull of Dan Beard Council.

Don is a long-time collector and co-author of the online patrol medallion reference site, patrol Patch (www.gilwell.com/ patrol Patch). {SCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

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by DR. GENE BERMAN In 1970, the National Council of BSA issued a letter and 3 sample patches to each of the 550 or so councils then in existence. That letter authorized and requested them to finish the current supply of red and white community strips and then switch to a Council Shoulder Strip (CSP) to be worn by all members of that council.

While the last council, Greenwich, did not comply until the late 1980's some councils jumped on the bandwagon very early.

Chautauqua Council was an example of just such an early council. Chautauqua County and Council was made up

primarily of the southwestern part of New York state in the Jamestown area. Their Council office was located in Mayville, NY. Their CSP, a gold bordered-blue/black and green background patch, was issued in 1970 with 880 (4 looms of 220 each) made at the time. People were just beginning to collect CSPs at the time and it was a onefor-one trader that could be bought over the counter for about 75 cents (Oh, how I wish I stocked up). In 1973 it merged with Elk Lick to form Allegheny Highlands Council.

By 1973 a goodly number of councils had followed suit, strictly from memory, I would

say about 100. But of those only a handful, Chautauqua, Elk Lick, Aheka, Lebanon, Pioneer Trails, and Yellowstone had merged.

Other mergers occurred in those years but the councils merging had not issued a CSP. Chautauqua's partner, Elk Lick always seemed to be very easy to get. Rumors have always circulated that the second run with the vertical stitch were privately produced.

To the best of my knowledge, it has never been proven either way. But with at least twice as many of the original horizontal Elk Lick's around, plus an unknown number ranging from "mucho" to "beaucoup" of the verticals, it was never a hard item to acquire.

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Therefore, almost from the get-go Chautauqua became one of the more sought after pieces. It was worth $10 ........ what a profit to be made for a 75 cent investment.

But one had to trade several CSPs to get one. Lebanon had been the first to merge and at the time carried the highest dollar premium at around $50-$75. Aheka was probably second most valuable at $45 and then came the others. Chautauqua was always a bit better than Pioneer Trails, Elk Lick, and Yellowstone.

But an interesting thing happened on the way to the Trading Forum. You see, all the others were made by National Supply.

Chautauqua was not. And in the late 1970's, one could see people who either worked for National Supply, or who had connections, suddenly having bags full of Lebanon's, Aheka's, Pioneer Trails' and Yellowstone's.

They only released a few at a time, but I would guess that after the mergers, National Supply stuck with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of CSPs that would never be used again due to the mergers being only too happy to dump them in bulk to eager collectors.

They say the cream will rise to the top and suddenly, there stood Chautauqua alone at the top of the heap. By the way, anyone know what a Lebanon is worth today?

About $75 in 2001 money, a sharp loss from the $75 of 1973. Anyone know what an Aheka is worth? Hard to get $35 in 2001 money ... another sharp loss. While Chautauqua's stock has risen to $200 for a real S-1. So you see you "dot.com-usedto-be millionaires" it happens in patches as well.

In the mid 1970's with very few additional mergers and more and more of the Lebanon's, Ahekas, Elk Licks, Pioneer Trails, and Yellowstone patches available, the #1 sought after name was Chautauqua.

In 1977, all th is was not lost on the Allegheny Highlands people. So they went back to the original manufacturer who had the original punch pattern and asked that a fundraiser loom of 220 (approximately) be made. This was done and sold to collectors in 1977-1978 to make money for Allegheny Highlands Council. So, is this a Chautauqua or is it an Allegheny Highlands patch?

Prince Watkins, who developed the first serious picture book of CSPs (credit before him to Roger Nazely, Bill Giulian, Pete Smith, Nate Mercurio, John Kennedy for their pioneering publications), 14

catalogued patches by their council number. Originally, he catalogued Allegheny Highlands with the same 382 (correct number) that had been Chautauqua's number (382) making them interchangeable and listing the Allegheny Highlands first CSP as 03. Because of the great confusion, Prince relented and in later editions reverted to a 382(M) for merged for Chautauqua and 382 for Allegheny Highlands changing the 03 to its real number 01.

Therefore, it's this author's opinion that the Chautauqua 02 is really an Allegheny Highlands Historical Issue. If your collection is based on who made the patch or who issued the patch, then Chautauqua County Council only produced one patch, the S-1.

If your patch collection is based on what the patch says, you have a claim on the 02 because it was produced by the successor Council who owned and had rights to the assets of the predecessor council, Chautauqua.

It is very difficult to tell the difference between the 01 and 02 (as listed in Dave Franck, Don Hook, Jim Ellis & Tom Jones), if you haven't seen or don't have both patches in front of you. The stitching is the same because the same punch pattern was used. The biggest difference in the 01 is a very pale or light yellow. The second 1977 patch is a darker/golden yellow. If you look at the patch in front of you and see that its yellow and couldn't be called dark yellow or gold you probably have the real first issue. If you look at it and are not sure, it's more likely (subjective view) the 02. The best way to know is to consult someone who has both or has one that he knows for sure is either 01 or 02. The 02 has assumed a life of its own and while not the $200 that the first issue sells for has a value sometimes approaching $100.

Not to be outdone, the human condition also brings out those who would cheat their fellow Scouts and fellow collectors and fellow human beings. The first of three fakes is called the Chicago fake. It is so named because it is believed to have been made by some people who lived in the Chicago Area, and was mostly traded in the Chicago Area even though they used the mailing address in Wisconsin of A & M Sales. It is also called the fat fdl fake. If you look at the disproportionate fdl it looks like the fdl needs to go on a diet. Its too fat. That is the best way to tell.

Subjectively, it's a very pale yellow as well, lighter than the real but that is hard to tell without a real one to compare. The backs tend to be very stiff if mint and the border is sewn differently. Some are stamped

reproduction or fake and some are not.

Another fake was done by the late R.C. Phillips of Long Island. He got the fdl right but the background stitch of the blue is vertical instead of horizontal. All vertical stitched Chautauquas are fakes. The third fake has an unknown author. It may have also been a Phillips fake done at a different time. The late Prince Watkins called this the skinny fish variation. I always personally preferred the ugly fdl version as the fdl is so misshapen as to qualify for birth defect compensation from the manufacturer.

It too, has a vertical stitch and is surely a fake. None of these fakes have any legitimate value but even fakes take on a life of their own. The Chicago and Ugly fdl versions seem to sell around $50 while the Phillips fakes, which there seem to be many more of, sell around $15-$20. These fakes were done in the late 1970's or early 1980's.

Lastly, in 1993 Allegheney Highlands Council did a full set fund raiser including reproducing a number of patches from predecessor councils. Included were Elk Lick and Seneca as well as a Chautauqua.

This patch is very well done and could almost pass for the 01 but for the fact it has a plastic backing. It sells for around $20.

So in summary, if you are in doubt about your Chautauqua, if the background is vertical it's a fake. If the fdl is very fat or very misshapen, it's a fake. If it has a plastic back it's a Council reproduction from 1993. And if it appears medium yellow which is the same as light gold, with a horizontal background and plain back and nice fdl, it's probably the 1977 reproduction, but check it out with someone who has a real 01 or 02, or both as they can be mistaken if you are not familiar with them.

And lastly, the question is often asked ... lf 880 of the 01 's were made and only 220228 of the repros were made 4 years later, why is the original S-1 so much harder to find. I believe the answer to that lies in the distribution. The 01 's were made for uniform wear, were sewn on uniforms and eventually discarded with the uniforms. A small amount got into the collecting community and don't often circulate. The 02's were never meant for uniform wear.

Virtually all got into the collecting community and they recirculate and recirculate so there are more of the 02's in collector's hands even though more 01 's were originally manufactured.

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by BOB SHERMAN David Malatzky of NY sent me an incredible publication from the Ten Mile River Scout Museum that I would highly recommend to anyone with an interest in memorabilia of TEN MilE RIVER SCOUT CAMPS of Greater New York Council.

This 90 page book is beautifully produced with clear black & white illustrations of the memorabilia from the many camps that make up TMR. The book comes with everything shown in color on a CD-ROM in PDF format. The book and CD-ROM may be ordered from David Malatzky, 2332 Holland Ave., Bronx, NY 10467 by sending a check for a total of $23.95 ($19.95 + $4 for shipping) made out to Greater New York Councils, B.SA The museum is soliciting input from anyone with additions or corrections that can be included in future editions of this book.

Destry Hoffard of Michigan wrote that John Bibo of Texas visited his employer, Roy More, and himself and identified the "T" oval patch on page 33 of the June, 2001 issue as being from CAMP TEXOMA of Texoma Valley Council which is now Circle Ten. Roy More identified the "Kx" shield on the same page as being from CAMP KIROLlEX of Chief Okemos Council. As many of you probably know, the camp name is from the four service organizations ( Klwanis/ROtary/ Lions/EXchange ).

Destry also sent Xeroxes of 1934 and 1935 Annual Reports from Hendrick Hudson Council in New York. The report talks about their CAMP WICCOPEE. The Rotary Clubs of that area did a lot of work building up the camp, providing a new kitchen, mess hall, infirmary, offices, and lodging for senior camp staff. The camp budget for the entire 1934 summer camp season totaled $1824.56.

Destry also sent a mystery patch shown on the right. It is a dark blue felt shieldshaped patch with a gray teepee and what looks to be the letters C, C, I, and T in the center. Does it look familiar to anyone?

There was a nice set of felt round patches on eBay from the 1940's from CAMP lOWDEN of Blackhawk ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

Area Council. The design on each patch was similar but each year had a different theme and color (1941-PioneerYear, 1944 - Achievement Year, 1945 - Pace Maker Year, and 1946 - Adventure Year).

Harris Tanner of Massachusetts identified a round felt patch with an "S" and "H" over a teepee illustrated on page 38 in the Sept. 2000 issue ASTAR as being from CAMP SHERMAN of the Hampden Council. The green chain stitch around the circumference means it was given to an adult, the gray felt "S" stands for "satisfactory camper" and the red felt "H" stands for "honor" camper. This information came from a 1933 camp bulletin.

John Koppen of Oregon has a very large neckerchief slide collection and sent illustrations of some of the early leather camp slides he has from the 1940's and 50's. Unfortunately, there may not be enough contrast to reproduce them for this article, but they are really a neat thing to collect. John also sent a page of metal n/c slides from CAMP MINGO from Chief logan Council (not to be confused with CAMP MONGO frmm Blazing Saddles Council). larry Michelson of Indiana sent a Xerox of a felt beanie with a felt-trimmed border and a felt disc on the top from FORT SCOTT CAMP. Does anyone know what kind of camp it is/was and where it was located?

There was no indication about where it is from or if it was BSA. larry has 3 different beanies from this camp of different colors. Does anyone else besides me think the word "beanie" is a funny word? It would be ironic if CAMP MONGO also had a "beanie."

Stan Burnam of Vermont sent some Xeroxes of some very early issues of "The Vermont Scout" going back as far as 1912. There was a CAMP ABNAKI in

operation back then. It opened in 1904 as a boys camp for any Vermont boy over 12 years of age who was a member of any church, sunday school, church club, or the YMCA and in 1912, the Boy Scouts of America. The fee was $4 per week. In this same issue, there is a story about a new BSA council being formed called POULTNEY COUNCil (I don't believe they had a CSP). In the February, 1913 issue, they write about the third anniversary of the BSA being celebrated from Feb. 8-14. On Feb. 12th at 9 P.M. sharp, every Scout was to stand up at attention and repeat the Scout oath and motto. At the third annual meeting, the BSA issued an order to all Scoutmasters to eliminate military methods and ideas such as marching drills using barrel staves as dummy muskets. The leaders of the BSA want to encourage "peace" Scouting.

Dave Wolverton of New Jersey did a great deal of research about the history of Monmouth Council. Dave supplied excellent documentation for the following camp data that was not in "The Camp Book."

Monmouth County Council 1917-28 KANOHWAHKE lAKE S. CS and C. MINNEWASKA. Monmouth-Ocean Council 1937-40 C. BURTON-AT-AllAIRE Monmouth Council 1928-37 , 1940-present C. BRISBANE (AKA Arthur Brisbane Memorial C or Camp Housman Training C.) C. HOUSMAN (AKA Housman orthe 15

Brisbane Training Center), C. BURTONAT-ALLAIRE, FORESTBURG S. RES. (includes Central C. and Dan Beard C.), and SKELBO LODGE (Explorer camp in Canada).

Dave noted that CAMP BURTON and CAMP BURTON-AT-ALLAIRE were two different camps whereas BRISBANE and HOUSMAN were the same camp with two names. There are two confirmed patches from C. BURTON-AT-ALLAIRE. The first, circa 1931, is a blue felt-on-felt with the short form of the camp name "BURTON" divided by a teepee in the center. The other is a blue felt "B." On eBay, there was an 8 page newsletter offered called "The Mess Kit," the Official Scout Paper of the Daniel Webster Council dated March, 1930 (price 5 cents). The headline was "Committee Chooses CAMP MANNING." This property was owned by

the old Manchester Council and was located on Guinea Pond in Gilmanton, NH. In the previous Camp Column (page 32 June, 2001), lied off with a round felt patch with a "T" on an arrowhead submitted by Dr. Gene Berman who wondered if it might be a staff patch from CAMP TALEQUAH. Joe Schloss of California identified the patch (he is also a collector of militaria) as a US Army WWI 36 th Division patch.

The original patch was round to represent an "0" for Oklahoma and the letter "T" is for Texas. When the 36 th division was first formed to fight in Europe, it was comprised primarily of soldiers from OK and TX. It is still possible that it might be from TALEQUAH as Gene surmised, since military patches were sometimes used by the BSA. Gene obtained the patch from a very reliable dealer who obtained it with a group of BSA material from the New York area and it was so labeled. Gene had shown the patch to a group of "old-timers"

and had one positive response. Gene is continuing to search for old Scouters with good memories who were at CAMP TALEQUAH who could positively confirm that the patch was or was not used at the camp.

I asked in the last column if there was any interest in a database listing of camps mentioned and/or illustrated in ISCAJ, ASTAR, and SCQ? Since I did not receive any responses, either + or -, I am putting that idea on hold.

I will conclude with some more patches that need identification - some were submitted by readers and some were found on eBay. Thanks to all who contribute to this column. If you have any questions about a patch you might have or if you have any "MYSTERY PATCHES" (camp patches with no name on them), please send me whatever info you have. My address is on page 3.

YSTERYPAT HES

LET BOB KNOW IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY ANY OF THESE PATCHES.

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by BLAKE KEASEY This time there are two new full-sized RWS to report. The more interesting of the two is the seventh original style variation to turn up, CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY/COUNCIL (OS). Like the six previous ones (see March 1999 column) the lettering for the council name is much cruder than the lettering for Council. Also, the council name has gauze backing, but the word council does not. The second one is a size variation from a fairly small council in North Dakota. The previously known one has smaller letters and measures 116mm (name) and 60mm (council). The newly reported one has larger letters and measures 114/60 so it will be designated as RED RIVER VALLEY/COUNCIL (114/ 60). As you can see from their pictures they look quite different.

Additional new council-level material includes a tan and red NORUMBEGA 1/ 2TR and a khaki and red YONKERS 1/2KR. There are also three of the more recent red and white O-strips, BADGER COUNCIL 1/2RW, DUTCHESS COUNTY 1/2RW, and YELLOWSTONE VALLEY 1/ 2RW. One new Sea Scout patch has been reported. It represents a dramatic difference in the lettering from Tumwater Council. The common format has 10mm letters, whereas the newer format has only 7mm letters and thus will be designated has TUMWATER AREA COUNCIL! WASHINGTON (7mm Itrs) BWS. It also has an unusual backing of peel-off paper over plastic that is over gauze.

Four new military base strips (MBS) have been reported. As it is unclear as to what the cml. stands for in the ARMY CML. CTR. 1/2RW we will be delighted for some expertise as to its meaning. Among the three new air base strips, the COLUMBUS AFB MISS 1/2RW represents the first MBS O-strip to include a state name. The O.A.F.B. 1/2RW may be a variation of Otis A.F.B. as they were found together. This newly reported MBS is now the fourth one on which the base name is abbreviated to one letter, the other three include the letters H., M., and W. The EDWARDS 1/2GB is the first air force base that has been found in the Explorer Scout colors of brown lettering on green twill.

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by HAROLD DAW

In some of the countries around the world, there exist multiple scout organizations, usually organized around religious denominations. Each of these organizations is independent of the others and has their own insignia.

This is also true of the Girl Guides/ Scouts organizations.

One such country is France. Scouting has a long tradition in France dating back to 1910 when it was first founded. France became a WOSM member in 1922 with four organizations, all of which still exist today.

Added to this are the non-recognized associations, and I have knowledge of 16 associations in France, that have issued insignia at one time or another. In some places there is a legal controversy over the use of insignia by non-recognized associations because the symbols of the Scouting movement are usually copyrighted. In other countries, two or more associations work together to bring Scouting to as many boys as possible.

America's neighbor to the north is one such place with two official associations, Scouts Canada and Association des Scouts du Canada.

Keeping track of all the insignia of these associations can be an exhausting job and trying to collect the badges is even harder. Sometimes the non-recognized associations are not known by the collecting fraternity until a badge is found in a collection and by then the association may no longer exist. An even harder task is separating the insignia for associations since some of the associations use the insignia of another association in an attempt to keep costs down. I have come across uniforms with the insignia of three separate associations on them. Does this make the insignia official for all three associations? Of course not, but trying to separate which badges belong to which association, can be fraught with errors. There are also examples where the insignia for two or more associations is exactly the same, having been produced by the same manufacturer.

Due to the number of associations in a single country, recognized or not, cataloguing needs to be split into two separate areas: Country, then Association. There is also a need to be a historian when collecting a foreign country, as the names of the associations change over time, and therefore, so do their insignia.

This month's foreign country is France. With such a long history and multiple associations, collecting badges from France can be fascinating. They also are beautiful badges, usually shields of the various regions and provinces within France and overseas for their former Colonies. Most of the badges from France are ribbons that are woven. Very few embroidered or bound badges exist. Many of the past badges of France are either unnamed or have the name between the shields on the ribbons. These names may have been cut off as the shields were usually worn in the shape of the shield.

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Today's badges are mostly named. The Coat of arms or the shield on them can identify those unnamed. Although not in color, I have selected a few and included them with this month's article. I have also supplied a list of the organizations of France that I know have issued insignia. If you know of more or if there are errors in my listing, please let me know so I can correct them.

FRANCE - ASSOCIATIONS Catholiques des France (NR) CES Raiders France (NR) Eclaireurs de L'Evangile (NR) Eclaireurs Neutres Europeens (NR) Federation du Scoutisme Europeen (F.S.E.*) Federation Eclaireures et Eclaireurs Unionistes de France (Rec) Guides de France (Rec) Les Eclaireures et Eclaireurs de France (Rec) Les Eclaireures et Eclaireurs Israelites de France (Rec) Scouts Catholiques Francais (NR) Scouts de Fatima (NR) Scouts de France (Rec) Scouts Orthodoxes de France (NR) Scouts Randonneurs France (NR) Scouts St. Georges France (NR) Unitaries de France (NR) *Note:- the FSE is an interesting association in that it has been recognized by the European council of Scouting but not the world movement. It is also international in nature involving Scouts in many European countries as well as Canada.

I have reason to believe that some of these are the same associations with new names but at this time cannot confirm my suspicions so I have separated them into different associations. Maybe someone out there can help me out.

The database listing I have for France is 17 pages long so I cannot supply it with this catalogue. Email me or drop me a line by post if you want one. It can be previewed on my website as well. If you think you have a badge from France but are not sure, scan it and send it to me. I will do my best to identify it for you.

I am not sure how many people of the ISCA are also international collectors so drop me a line and say hello.

Perhaps we can increase the trading for international badges. I am going to try and start a new badge column next time so let me know if you get something you think is new. Remember that this column is for ANY badges that are international (yes, even event badges).

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by JOHN KOPPEN

There were 3 great home-business style neckerchief slide makers: Charles M. Neal (Neal Slides), Paul Y. Dunn/Jack Brender (Torchy Slides), and Sherman Landman.

Over a period of years, each one of these artists was responsible for creating over one million n/c slides. The least wellknown of these men is Sherman Landman. However, he made n/c slides for over 45 years!

Landman is fairly unknown for a couple of reasons. First, unlike all the Neal Slides and most of the Torchy Slides, the Landman slides are not marked as such.

However, once you know what to look for, they are easy to identify. Secondly, the "Sherm Slides" are by far the rarest of the three makers. Unlike the resin slides of the other makers, his lead slides are delicate and can be bent with your hands, and the n/c rings on the back break off fairly easily. As a result, many have been discarded along the way. Although fragile, Sherm's slides are truly works of art and of the finest design and quality. When compared to the Neal Slides, they are greatly undervalued!!

He served in WW I, worked for the New York Central Railroad, and was employed as a tool and die maker. His knowledge of railroad lead and his die-making experience gave him the background to begin making metal slides from molds in the mid-1920's.

Sherm's Troop 10, which began in 1925 under his leadership in Chillocothe, Ohio, grew and grew until it reached 138 in

SHERMAN LANDMAN 1890 - 1971

Later electroplating was done either in copper or nickel (sometimes a silvernickel compound). Sherm lived in a house trailer and had no electricity, so he used all glass aquariums and car batteries to do his electroplating.

Many slides were given away over the years until they began making them for purchase beginning in 1947 with an order for the National Camping School held at Tar Hollow.

One of the slides given out at the 1950 Jamboree, earning "Sherm's troop" the "Outstanding Demonstration" pennant.

Sherm, as he was known, was born in 1890 in Fayette County, Ohio. He was a Native American of the Mingo tribe. He learned most of his outdoor skills from his father and grandfather. Before the origin of the BSA, Sherm joined the Sons of Daniel Boone, of which his father was a member. He became involved with Scouting in 1914 and first became a Scoutmaster in 1920.

number and acquired the nickname of "That Thundering Herd." Sherm also helped in other troops, and in 1941 was registered as S. M. for Troop 10 and as Assistant S. M. for troops 91 and 95! In addition to Troop 10, he essentially served as S. M. for Troop 91 five different times; the last time from 1951-1958. Thus, Sherm was Scoutmaster for two troops (10 & 91), known as "the twins," for many years.

Sherm wanted to be a doctor, but in school he was treated badly and felt like a racial outcast. As a result, there was a time when Sherm didn't like "white men." But Sherm always loved kids and saw them as being in a "pre-corrupted with prejudice" condition.

The slide-making enterprise became a troop project, basically, to give the boys something of skill and craft value to do, and with the end result of having a common slide to build identity, teamwork and unity. By 1935 there were about 30 boys trained in the work of slide making.

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A portable production line was developed for demonstration purposes. Two to three boys could run it and turn out 300-500 slides per day. The slide making involved: casting, trimming, inspection, etching, cleaning, etc.

Orders for slides seriously grew in number after the 1950 National Jamboree where Sherm's troop won the "Outstanding Demonstration" pennant for the whole Jamboree doing the n/ c slide making. They gave out thousands of Jamboree-themed slides.

The production records for the slides the boys produced were destroyed long ago, but the 1950's were their most prolific decade: 1953- 89,000, 1958-71,000, 1951-69,500.

Sherm's 100-acre property in Chief Logan Council in Londonderry was located in rugged terrain and in some of the best hiking country in the midwest. Beginning in the mid-30's, Sherm began to develop hiking trails that incorporated original Native American trails. The trails were conceived of as a service to Chief Logan Council, providing adventure, novelty, experience with pristine nature, constant change of scenery, and freedom from: registrations, requirements, and fees. By the late 50's, Sherm had a system of 5 19

trails plus some special hikes including overnighters. He made trail medals for these trails starting in 1939 which could be purchased, as well as the slides which were given out for free to hikers.

In addition to slides and trail medals, Sherm and " T hat Thundering Herd" also mad e (unprofitably) sets of plaster rank plaques for a time.

the slide. They could be broken off fairly easily, and many were intentionally removed for the ease of displaying them.

Quite a few of the slides have never had n/c rings attached, for various reasons. Some were used as prototypes or trial pieces.

Some were overruns and never completed.

And some were used for display.

In the 1950's, Sherm began calling his property "Ah-Wen-Nah-Sa" which means "at THE NECKERCHIEF HOLDER WAS A home". He also turned his WEAKNESS OF THE SLIDE homestead into Variations of what he called the n/c slide process included: pendants, bolo slides, "Camp Ah-wen-Nah-Sa". Camping was cane emblems, flag staff awards, service offered and his old classic barn was project markers, pocket pieces, pins, and Troop 10 rings!

Sherm made many special slides for various purposes. He made them for his trail guides, ones with individual names for Eagle Scouts, ones for the "Polar Bear Scouts" (see ASTA Report Vol. 13-No. 4 Page 165), and many more.

Based on my research, it appears that beginning in 1948, Sherm used molds that produced lines on the reverse sides of the slides. After his death, October 22, 1971, some of his slides were reproduced from the original molds. However, they did not use the reverse halves which left the lines on the back like the original ones.

One of the weaknesses of his slides was the n/c holder. They were simply wire-type rings soldered on the back of the slides.

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I recently had lunch with a group of collectors that I consider very knowledgable in the history of Scouting. During the course of our discussion, the topic turned to Chief Scout Executives and the role that they've played in leading the organization over the past 91 years. As the discussion progressed I was surprised that none of us could name all 10 men that have held this position and the order in which they held it. We all knew of James West and the more recent Chiefs, but the middle ones eluded us. So upon returning to the Museum, I pulled out the books and did a little research on those individuals that have been so instrumental in guiding the Scouting movement here in the United States. So here's the list of the Chief Scout Executives and the years they served:

thoroughly enjoyed by the Scouts. It was simple camping on his property with his hiking trails as its major attraction. Most of the time the trails required a guide, a role Sherm or one of his Scouts would fulfill.

Sherm had many talents, including being a painter. One of his paintings was even used as a cover for the Saturday Evening Post. His long association with Scouting provided him with an unending supply of stories which he loved to share.

Sherm, who never married, gave countless hours and immeasurable energy to the boys he led. He also frequently gave what financial resources he had to his Scouts, especially those in need.

All in all, Sherm made a significant contribution to Scouting and made a positive difference in many young men's lives. His slides will always remain as snapshots of his legacy. And they are without a doubt some of the most classic and desirable of all neckerchief slides!

James E. West Dr. Elbert Fretwell Arthur Schuck Joseph A. Brunton Alden Barber Harvey L. Price James L. Tarr Ben Love Jere Ratcliffe Roy Williams

1911-1943 1943-1948 1948-1960 1960-1967 1967-1976 1976-1979 1979-1985 1985-1993 1993-2000 2000-

During my research I also uncovered some other interesting facts. Prior to this research I had believed that Earnest Thomas Seton had been the only "Chief Scout." I was surprised to learn that upon their retirements, James E. West and Elbert Fretwell were also elected "Chief Scout."

The Editor

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by STEVE AUSTIN and DAVID FRANCK CORRECTIONS FROM VOL 1., NO.3, SEPTEMBER 2001 ARTICLE IROQUOIS TRAIL: The patch shown was the 2001 FOS issue (SA-G) which has a sil/m bdr and red/wht bkg.

MIDDLE TENNESSEE: The SA-14 issue has red/org/gld sky unlike the SA-13 issue which has a wht sky with photochromatic colors.

MERGER NEWS EASTERN ARKANSAS 015 has merged into QUAPAW AREA 018 MOBY DICK 245 has merged into NARRAGANSETT 546.

West Suburban Council a New "Old" first CSP issue.

T- :5

T- :6

I have known about this patch for almost as long as I have been collecting. This patch is not a new discovery. It is in fact pictured on page 93 of the 1984 Arapaho I update (second edition). The arched council name on the top has always made us wonder whether or not it could have been used as a shoulder patch.

We now have conclusive evidence that this patch, issued in the early 50's, was in fact used as a Shoulder Patch. Something we had suspected but had no hard evidence.

Why hadn't they been "discovered" before?

Let's, consider the area and time this came out. The patch is from the early 1950's. West Suburban Council is located outside Chicago.

The neighboring council to our southwest is Rainbow Council. They produced a T -1 in the early 50's. Also, about 25 miles to the west is another council who produced a T-1, Chief Shabbona Council. It is extremely likely that these professionals attended common area meetings that would have influenced them.

Dave Pede has put together information confirming two new "old" fist issue CSPs from the West Suburban Council. It is presented as part of Steve and Dave's column.

Where's the "rea/" evidence? Well they say a picture is worth a thousand words and in this case we have two pictures. Shown to the right are two photographs of a Scouter wearing the West Suburban "First Issue." Even though they are slightly out offocus, the patch is clearly visible on the Scouter's left arm.

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So, why isn't it more common? West Suburban Council was a very small council and was always a community/state strip council. Only the professionals and council level members were allowed to wear the shoulder patches. These patches were also not available to others. Even as late as 1978, I was not allowed to purchase the council Red and White until I became a member of the camp staff. West Suburban Council was also home to Leekwinai lodge 157. The lodge having a 1 per OA honor restriction and a tough No Trade attitude. Consequently there aren't a lot of traders from West Suburban Council and finding council related items outside the council is more rare than from other areas.

of their way to promote the 50th anniversary of Scouting. They modified the council camps patch by changing it to orange and adding the dates 1910-1960. They also modified the shoulder patch (TA-: 6) by changing the border around the council name from white to gold.

NOTE: The T-:5 and TA-:6 are numbered using the new numbering system used in "An Aid To Collecting Selected Council Shoulder Patches With Valuation Guide."

This prevents the renumbering of the other issues of the council.

Isn't there another? What about the gold bordered one? In 1960 the council went out

The T-:5 has a white border, red twill background, white letters, c/e, dk green/tanl blue council area. The TA-:6 is the same a the TA-:5 with a gold border around the council name.

ADIRONDACK

ALLOHAK

S-11 blk bdr, It blu sky, gld/m fdl, blk name, dk grn trees

S-19

blk bdr, It blu sky, red fdl, blk name

Info from this article comes primarily from you - the readers of the column with just a little ebay watching on our part. A mention of thanks to those who provided info on new issues this time around (hope we didn't inadvertently leave anybody off): Jeff Ansley, Scott Bracken, Bob Burt, Bob Chapman, Mike Daley, Steve Dewick, Fred Lang, John Grim, Jerry Hampton, Andy Hebner, Dave Hultburg, Michael Johnson, Tom Keller, Steve Kuehn, Fred Lang, Bill Loeble, Mike Lush, Mark Michalski, John Papp, Paul Parrish, Dave Pede, Bill Roseland, Jerry Rudolph, John Shaffer, Bob Sleeper, Jim Taylor, Ed White, David Williams, Sid Witrock, Alan Young

BLACK WARRIOR

SA-8 red bdr, gry bkg, yel fdls, blk name, 2000 FOS

ANNAWaN ALLEGHENY HIGHLANDS

SA-9 blk bdr, blu bkg, gld fdl, gld name, 2001 FOS SA-19 wht bdr, blu sky, tan fdl, blk name, lodge dedication, 1100 made

SA-4 gld/m bdr, r/w/b American flag bkg, gld/m fdl, blu name, 2001 TRUSTWORTHY, FRIENDS OF SCOUTING

BOSTON MINUTEMAN

BAY AREA

SA-20 gld/m bdr, wht sky, org fdl, & wht fdl org name, CJ 01, 2001 Canadian Jamboree SA-21

same as SA-20 wIlt blu fdl

SA-7 sillm bdr, It blu/blu sky, gry BSA, wht name, NATIONAL MEETING 2001 SA-11 wht bdr, red bkg, wht fdl, wht name, 2001 campership

SA-22 same as SA-20 wI blk fdl 50 made 22

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BUCKS COUNTY

SA-55a blk/m bdr, blu bkg, yel fdl, org-red name, 0000, error, first run all came in numbered 0000

SA-i8 same as SA-16 wi grn bdr, grn Itrs, Venturing

BUCKTAIL

SA-67 red bdr, aqua sky, gld fdl, red name, 2Ki AUCTION, 615 made SA-68 made

same as SA-67 wi gry bdr, 140

SA-69 made

same as SA-67 wi gld bdr, 140

SA-70 made

same as SA-67 wi blk bdr, 75

CASCADE PACIFIC

S-2 blk bdr, blu bkg, wht fdl wi yel outline, yel Itrs, design change

SA-19 same as SA-16 wi sil/m bdr, blk Itrs, council 75th

BUFFALO TRAIL

S-20 grn bdr, wht bkg, yel fdl, grn name, NEW JERSERY, error

SA-38 gry bdr, It blu sky, gld fdl, 1926 75TH ANNIVERSARY 2001, MERIWETHER SA-39 staff

S-A gld bdr, rlwlb bkg, gld fdl, gld name, 75, 1923-1998, council 75th

same as SA-38 wi sil/m bdr,

BURLINGTON COUNTY

S-21 yel bdr, wht bkg, yel fdl, grn name, NEW JERSEY CALIFORNIA INLAND EMPIRE

SA-40 gry bdr, blu sky, red fdl, 2001 auction donation CATALINA

SA-16 red bdr, It blu sky, red fdl, SE, 1925 DIAMOND JUBILEE 2000, Scouts

SA-63 wht bdr, red bkg, red fdl, red name, 2000 AUCTION, Y2K, 615 made SA-64 same as SA-63 wi gry bdr, 150 made

SA-17 same as SA-16 wi blu bdr, blu Itrs, Cubs

SA-65 same as SA-63 wi gld, 150 made SA-66 same as SA-63 wi blk bdr, 75 made

SA-36 red bdr, blu sky, red fdl wi gld outline, wht name, CAMP LAWTON 1921-2001, error, SOOUTS SA-37 same as SA-36 wi yel bdr leaders, error, SOOUTS SA-38 same as SA-36 wi grn bdr, staff, error, SOOUTS SA-39 same as SA-36 wi gld/m bdr, director recognition, error, SOOUTS

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SA-40 red bdr, blu sky, red fdl wi gld outline, wht name, CAMP LAWTON 1921-2001 SA-41 same as SA-40 wi yel bdr, eaders SA-42

CHEROKEE (TN)

SA-16 gld/m bdr, red/blu bkg, gld/m name, LIMITED EDITION, FR

CRADLE OF LIBERTY

SA-13 gld bdr, mar/org/gld sky, gld fdl, gld name, MUSSER SCOUT RESERVATION

CHESTER COUNTY

same as SA-40 wi grn bdr, staff

SA-43 same as SA-40 wi gld/m bdr, director recognition

SA-14 grn bdr, grnllt grn bkg, wht fdl, wht Itrs, RESICA FALLS SCOUT RESERVATION

CENTRAL FLORIDA S-8 red bdr, yel/org sky, org fdl, blk name, design change CLINTON VALLEY

SA-15 red bdr, gld sky, gld fdl, red name, TREASURE ISLAND SCOUT RESERVATION

SA-32 gld bdr, blu bkg, blk fdl, blk name, 80TH ANNIVERSARY, 1000 made SA-33 made

same as SA-32 wi org bdr, 1000

SA-34 made

same as SA-32 wi red bdr, 1000

SA-35 made

same as SA-32 wi blk bdr, 1000

SA-36 same as SA-32 wi gld/m bdr, 1000 made, (must buy in council office)

DANIEL BOONE

SA-11 gld bdr, grn bkg, gld fdl, red name, PHILMONT, 2000, 75 made SA-12 same as SA-11 wi red bdr, PHILMONT, 2000, staff, 25 made CONNECTICUT YANKEE

CENTRAL WYOMING

SA-14 grn bdr, grn/brn bkg, tan fdl, tan Itrs, 2001 FOS

S-8 red bdr, blu sky, blk BSA, blk name, error EAST CAROLINA

SA-4:1 gry bdr, It blu bkg, red fdl, wht name wi blk outline, LOYAL, 1999 FOS

SA-10 gry bdr, blullt blu/wht sky, blk fdl, wht name, PHILMONT 2001

CHATTAHOOCHEE

S-10 aqua bdr, aqua bkg, gld fdl wi red outline, blk name, error

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SA-6 blu bdr, wht bkg, red fdl, blk name, HELPFUL, 2000 FOS [SCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

FLINT RIVER

GREATER NIAGARA FRONTIER

SA-134 same as SA-132 wi MISSISSIPPI, ROOT,river series, 2001 JSP SA-9 red bdr, gld bkg, wht fdl wi blk outline, red name, POWDER HORN 2001

SA-24 grn bdr, grn bkg, grn fdl, grn name, wht 2001 SCHOELLKOPF, ghost, camp issue

SA-10

GREATER PITTSBURG

same as SA-9, STAFF

FRENCH CREEK

SA-135 same as SA-132 wi KICKAPOO, BUFFALO,river series, 2001 JSP SA-9 gld/m bdr, blu sky, gld fdl, gld/m name, FRIENDLY, 90TH ANNIVERSARY1910-2000, FOS blk name, 2001, FRIEND OF SCOUTING GAMEHAVEN SA-136 same as SA-132 wi BLACK, WISCONSIN, river series, 2001 JSP GEORGIA CAROLINA

S-6 blk bdr, org bkg, blk fdls, wht Itrs, design change

SA-10 blu bdr, gld sky, wht fdl, blk name, TRUSTWORTHY, 2001, FRIENDS OF SCOUTING, error

GULF COAST (TX)

GATEWAY AREA S-7 blk bdr, org/yel rays, yel fdl w/o blk lines, blk name, design change GRAND TETON SA-33 wht bdr, blu bkg, red fdl, blk Itrs, NAVYtrainer, 2000 campership, 200 made GULF COAST (TX) cant SA-132 blu bdr, grn bkg, grn fdl, sil/m name, BAD AXE, TREMPELEAU, river series, 2001 JSP

SA-34 same as SA-33 wi gld/m bdr, 40 made SA-54 gry bdr, red/org/gld/yel sky, tan fdl, blu name, SILVER BEAVER COLONY #2 SA-55 same as SA-55 wi sil/m bdr, 100 made

SA-133 same as SA-132 wi LACROSSE, CHIPPEWA, river series, 2001 JSP

SA-35 wht bdr, blu bkg, red fdl, blk Itrs, NA VY jet, STRONG TRADITIONS, 2000 campership, 200 made SA-36 same as SA-35 wi gld/m bdr, 40 made

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HEART OF OHIO

TA-8 wht bdr, yel/org sky, blk fdl, blk name, PHILMONT 2001

JERSEY SHORE

SA-16 gld bdr, blu bkg, gld fdl, gld name, A SCOUT IS KIND, campership SA-5 red bdr, blu sky, red name, PHILMONT 2000, EXP #717

LINCOLN HERITAGE

HIAWATHA SEAWAY KEYSTONE AREA

SA-12 brt red bdr, It blu sky, blk fdl, blk name, PHILMONT 2001, 801-0,200 made INDIAN NATIONS

S-1 b blk bdr, vert stitched pur sky, yel name, error, issued to Jamboree contingent SA-1O grn bdr, blu sky, gld fdl wi blk outline, blk name, PHILMONT TREK 2001 SA-11

same as SA-10 wi gld bdr, staff

SA-5 red bdr, grn bkg, yel fdl, blk name, CAMPBELLS WOODS, JLT

SA-17 brt blu bdr, wht sky, wht fdl, blu Itrs, 2001 FOS

LOS ANGELES AREA INLAND NORTHWEST

SA-12 red bdr, wht bkg, gld fdl, blk name, JAMES E. WEST FELLOW

LAND OF THE ONEIDAS

SA-24 gry bdr, blullt blu sky, gld fdl, org name, 2001 FOREST LAWN SCOUT RESERVATION

SA-16 gld bdr, gld sky, brn fdl, It grn name, FOS 2000

SA-25 same as SA-24 wi gld/m bdr, staff

IROQUOIS TRAIL SA-14 sil/m bdr, wht sky, red fdl, blk Itrs, F.O.S., 2001 FOS

MIAMI VALLEY

SA-15 gld bdr, red bkg, gld fdl, gld name, COURTEOUS, campership

SA-23 red bdr, wht bkg, gld fdl wi blk outline, grn name, TRUSTWORTHY, 2001FOS

gry bdr, org sky, gld fdl, blk SA-5 Itrs, Commissioner issue, 60 made

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PIEDMONT (NC)

MIDDLE TENNESSEE

OCCONEECHEE

SA-5:1 org bdr, red/blu bkg, VOLUNTEER

TA-14 yel bdr, blu sky, red fdl, blu Itrs, SEABASE CONTINGENT

MINSI TRAILS

OLD NORTH STATE

SA-26 yel bdr, blk/wht bkg, red fdl, red name, 2001 STAFF, summer camps

wht bdr, pale blu sky, gld fdl, S-7 org name, NC RR, 150th anniversary of NC railroads OREGON TRAIL

SA-20 gld/m bdr, blu bkg, blk fdl, blu name, c/e, CAMP BUD SCHIELE 20TH ANNIVERSARY

TA-21 brt yel bdr, purlred/blu/org Igrn/yel bkg, brt yel B.SA, brt yel SE, brt yel name, brt yel 2001, red SCOUT SHOW

MISSISSIPPI VALLEY

red bdr, yel sky, gld fdl, blk S-9 name, same design as S-8

SA-16 grn bdr, It blu sky, It blu fdl, wht name, 200 made SA-22 sil/m bdr, red/blu/gry bkg, sil/m fdl, gry name, GILWELL

OZARK TRAILS MORAINE TRAILS

PIONEER VALLEY

SA-6 gld/m bdr, blu bkg, red fdl, red name, PRESTON ENVIRONMENTAL CENTER dedication

SA-21 dk grn bdr, blu sky, gld/m fdl, BSA, wht Itrs, SERVICE 2001 CENTER, comm SA-22 same as SA-21 wi gld/m bdr dedication attendee

S-10 blu bdr, It blu bkg, red fdl, wht Itrs, 2001,500 made

NORWELA

INFORMATION ON NEW CSPS

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wht bdr, dk blu bkg, It blu fdl

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Has your council or a neighboring council recently issued a new CSP? If so, why not share the information with other ISCA members by sending a color copy of the patch to Steve and/or Dave so they can include it in their article. Their addresses are on page 3 of this issue. Help keep the hobby up-to-date on new patches from your area.

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POTAWATOMI AREA

SA-36 wht bdr, blu sky, yel fdl, blk Itrs, cheesehead cow, red barn, grn tractor, 900 made SA-37 same as SA-36 wi sil/m bdr, FR, 100 made SA-38 same as SA-36 wi gld/m bdr, gld/m fdl, FR, 100 made

SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY

SA-25 blk bdr, blu sky, tan fdl, blk name, 2003, 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF FLIGHT, FR SA-13 blu bdr, It blu sky, gld fdl, blk name, LOYAL, 2001 F.O.S.

TIDEWATER

SA-14 same as SA-13 wi grn/lt grn bdr, presenters, 75 made SUFFOLK COUNTY

SA-39 same as SA-36 wi sil/m bdr, FR, numbered, 10 made

SA-19 blk bdr, blu/pur/red/gld sky, gld fdl, wht name, HELPFUL, 2000 FOS

SA-40 same as SA-36 wi sil/m bdr, gld/m fdl, FR, 100 made

TRANSATLANTIC

PRAIRIELANDS SA-41 gld bdr, It blu bkg, wht fdl wi blu outline, blu name, COURTEOUS, 2001 FOS TECUMSEH

SA-6 blk bdr, gry bkg, gld fdl, blk name, CAMP FREEDOM, STAFF TRAPPER TRAILS

S-1c pur bdr, gld sky, red fdl, blu Itrs, 58 x 130 mm SIMON KENTON SA-22 red bdr, It blu sky, yel fdl, wht name, THRIFTY, 2001 FOS

SA-20 pale blu bdr, wht bkg, wht fdl, gld name, 2002 OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES

SA-75 red bdr, blu/whtldk blu bkg, yel fdl, gld name, FOS 2001, $1500 UNIT SA-23 blk bdr, blu sky, wht fdl, grn name, 2001, HONORING THE WRIGHT BROTHERS, FR

SA-78 gld bdr, blk bkg, wht fdl, wht BSA, wht name, gld SCOUT NIGHT WITH THE CREW, (Columbus, Ohio's pro soccer team) logo, wht 2001

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SA-24 red bdr, blu sky, blk fdl, red name, 2002, FLIGHT TESTS AT HUFFMAN PRAIRIE, FR

SA-21 same as SA-20 wi wht bdr, FR, 100 made TWIN RIVERS

SA-15 red bdr, It blu/gld sky, red fdl, blk Itrs, CARIBBEAN 2002,129 made SA-16 made

same as SA-15 wi sil/m bdr, 52

SA-17 made

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30 Collects all Jamboree 31 Pocket/Jacket Patches 32 Hat Pins 33 Mugs 34 Neckerchiefs 35 Neckerchief Slides 36 Staff Patches 37 JCP's/JSP's 38 Coins/Bolo/Other 39 Trade One for One

COUNCILS 20 Collects all Councils 21 CSP's 22 Hat Pins 23 Mugs 24 Neckerchiefs 25 Neckerchief Slides 26 Activities 27 CP's (Council Patches) 28 Camp Patches 29 Trade One for One

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EXTINCT MEMORABILIA 50 Collects all items 51 Red & White Strips 52 Brass/Metal Badges 53 Mugs 54 Air Scouts/Air Expl 55 Rover/Lone Scouts 56 Old Regions 57 Camps/Schiff 58 Knights of Dunamis 59 Have Dupes to Trade

INTERNATIONAL 60 Collects all Int'l 61 Foreign Patches (list) 62 Pins/Metal Badges 63 Foreign Memorabilia 64 Neckerchiefs & Slides 65 Scouts on Stamps 66 World Jamborees 67 Foreign Jamborees 68 Indabas, Moots, etc.

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UNIFORM/INSIGNIA 80 Collects all items 81 Cub Scout Insignia 82 Boy Scout Insignia 83 Explorer Insignia 84 Varsity Insignia 85 Sea Explorer hlsignia 86 Religious Medals 87 Religious Activities 88 Foreign Uniforms 89 Have Dupes to Trade

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ILLINOIS - Bloomington - Troop 20 Swap of Bloomington,lL. Saturday, December 8,2001 - 9:00 am To 2:00 pm St. Mary's School 603 W.Jackson street Admission: Free Contact: Bob Clark 1-309-378-2901 RDCLARk@webtv.net John Hardy 1-309-829-8432Iinecamper20@aol.com VIRGINIA - Star City Scout TOR Friday 12/7/2001 - Saturday 12/8/2001 Days Inn Airport, 8118 Plantation Rd., Roanoke, VA. $2.00 admission at the door. Scouts in Uniform admitted FREE. Tables $15.00.

CONTACT: John Hannabass, 2915 Mt. Pleasant Blvd., Roanoke, VA 24014 (540)417-4082 TEXAS - Big '0' TOR January 25 AND 26, 2002 DFW Marriott -South, 4151 Centreport Dr., Ft. Worth, TX 75155 Admission $5.00 Special Room Rate $79.00 , Call (800) Marriott and mention Big '0' TOR Contact: David Franck, P.O. Box 451971, Garland, TX 750451971, (972) 875-6486 or email dfranck@verizon.net CALIFORNIA - Ventura County Council Memorabilia and T.O.R. February 1 and 2, 2002 801 S. A Street, Oxnard, CA 93932 6 PM Friday doors open. 9 AM Saturday silent auctions.

Live auction 1 PM Saturday $2.00 per person. Scouts under 18 in uniform free Table Fee: $10.00 each Contact: Greg Metzgus (805) 498-5495, email Coppersmith@sprintmail.com or Bill Sternberg (805) 933 9020 FLORIDA - Orlando Sunshine TOR February 1 and 2, 2002 Contact: Terry Grove (407) 679-5687 or email groveeagle@cfl.rr.com CALIFORNIA - Siwinis Lodge 252 Fifth Annual TOR & Memorabilia Auction January 11 & 12, 2002 Girls Club House Auditorium, 4940 Southern Ave., South Gate, CA Friday 6:00pm - 10:00pm; Saturday 8:00am- 4:00pm Admission is $2.00, Bidder number is $2.00, Scouts in uniform free Table Fee: Advance purchase price is $12.00; at the door $15.00 Contact: Bill Roseland (310) 679-7137, willmike@pacbell.net, 3210 W 135th Street, Hawthorne, CA 90250-6341 Bob Sleeper (310) 397-3826, robslela@earthlink.net, 3533 Ashwood Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90066

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NEW JERSEY - Sakuwit Lodge #2's Annual East Coast TOR. Feb. 22 & 23, 2002 Where: To be announced Contact: Ron Levine EMail: RonLev56@aol.com TENNESSEE - Knoxville Trade-O-Ree March 15-16, 2002 Garden Plaza Hotel Oak Ridge, TN 5PM-12AM /8AM-3PM Table Fee: $20-$30 with a $5 Discount For Early Registration Contact: Dave McMillan (865) 966-6544 dmack45@prodigy.net 442 Sugarwood Dr, Knoxville, TN 37922 or Glen Wright (865) 984-8856 ibcbadger@aol.com Hotel Info: Garden Plaza (865) 481-2468 NEW YORK - The Juliette Low Preservation Society 3rd Annual Swap Meet April 12-13, 2002 at the Senior Center located on Market Street in the Village of SSaugerties, NY Contact: Janet Loop atjloop@hvc.rr.comorcall at (845) 246-6392 MASSACHUSETTS - 5th Annual Grand Monadnock Lodge 309 Trade-o-ree Saturday April 27, 2002 - 8:30 am to 3:30 pm Saint Joseph's Church, Fitchburg, MA $4.00 for adults, $2.00 Youth, Scouts in Uniform Free Table Fee: $14.00 Aisle and $17.00 Wall Contact: Martin Wasznicky, 12 Emery Road, Townsend, Ma 01469, (978) 597-6228 or email silverfox@net1plus.com TEXAS - Grapevine - Lone Star Trade 0 Ree May 31st and June 1st 2002 St Francis of Assisi; May 31st 12n-10p; June 1st 9a-3p Admission: $2 Adults; $1 Adults in uniform; Scouts upto 18 Free Contact: John Ryan 817 5714970; T32RYAN@aol.com; 4109 Meadow Dr, Grapevine TX 76051 NEW JERSEY - Flemington Trade-o-ree Lodge 2, Pahaquarra Chapter June 15, 2002 St Magdalen Church , 105 Mine Street, Flemington NJ 8:00 to 3:00 or?

General Admission $3.00 , Scouts in Uniform Free Table Fee: $15.00 First Table, 2 tables $25.00,3 Tables $40.00, 4 Tables $55.00 Contact: Bob Torok Nites (610) 294-9687 Days (908) 782-3673 X3244 Contact: Tom Richards Days (908) 788-1494 IseA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

PHILMONT PAPER

by JOHN CONLEY WILLIAMS

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Many of us collect paper items along with Philmont patches.

A Philmont Paper item generally will have "Philmont" or one of the logos like the bull or Tooth Of Time.

JAMeS p, I'I'fCH, GrtU.>lAL MAI,,,6(l< ""U.. I.U·O l'''O~lO'''')U

September 19, 1947

Collectible Philmont paper includes post cards, brochures, booklets, photographs, decals, stickers, documents, stationary, and others.

Paper provides history and information that patches cannot.

Paper is easy to store and compliments your patch collection.

Paper is affordable and fun to collect.

PENNSYLVANIA - 6th Annual Pocono Trade-o-ree July 13, 2002 St. Vincent De Paul Roman Catholic Church Rt 739 Dealer Setup 8am - 9am - 4pm Adults 2.00 Youth 1.00 Youth in Uniform Free Table Fee: 6' Wall 12.00 Center 10.00

INDIANA - BIG MONSTER TOR PRE-NOAC July 24-27 2002 Bloomington Sportsplex, 1700 W. Bloomington Rd. (2nd St.) Bloomington, Indiana CONTACT - Streamwood, Inc. POBox 1841 Easley, SC 29641 (864) 859-2915 cjensen@streamwood.netl2001

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by DAVE MINNIHAN and BRUCE SHELLEY

Bob Levin reported in early August on Patch-L that Narragansett (Wincheck 534) and Moby Dick Councils (Neemat 124) are merging.

On the Internet we found a site that said the merger had actually taken place on July 1, 2001. The site seemed to imply that the council (and lodge?) had just been absorbed.

Stephen White reported in October that absorption of Eastern Arkansas Area Council (Hi' Lo Ha Chy' A-La 413) by Quapaw Area Council (Quapaw 160) had been approved. Quapaw takes over now but not officially until 1/1/02. The two lodges are expected to continue operating for the near term, but a merger is likely at some future point.

Another merger slipped by us earlier this year. Frank Ibero tells us that Prairie Gold Area (Miniconjou 438) has been absorbed by Mid America (Kit-Ke-Hak-O-Kut 97). A new flap from 97 includes the totems of both lodges.

The first flap from new lodge Ema'o Mahpe that we saw on e-Bay went for $77 but the price fell quickly as more were offered. We're told that the patch is not restricted. The name of this lodge comes from the Cherokee and means "red water," referring to the Native American name for the Cimarron River, which formed part of the boundary between the old councils. For now the totems remain the thunderbird from Inola and the elk from Ah-Ska. An interesting neckerchief from Nik-Ka-Ga-Hah 91 sold recently on e-Bay for $197. It looked like the 91 n1 listed in BB3, but the name was spelled incorrectly (Nia instead of Nik) and there was no mention ofthe different spelling in the BB3 description. We confirmed with Bill Topkis that this is a newly discovered item. At this point he does not know the catalog number that will be assigned to the piece.

There is already an N.5 for this lodge that was added for BB3. It is likely that this new neckerchief will end up as either the N.3 or N.7.

Bill pointed out to us that the neckerchief with the incorrect spelling probably preceded the one with correct spelling.

A 50 th anniversary flap from Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan 40 sold recently on eBay that was a previously unknown. The patch was close to the lodge's official 50 th flap design but was significantly different in colors and embroidery. For example, the text "50 th Year" is dark yellow on the original flap but light gray on the newly discovered flap. The bird embroidery is also significantly different. The flap has been temporarily cataloged as the 40Z2S and can be seen at oaimages.com.

Since this 50 th flap is probably unique, possibly a prototype or a fake, there was some question as to whether it should be listed at all in patch catalogs. I queried Bill Topkis about this and he stated his long-standing position that a patch like this should be listed so anyone encountering one can know what we believe it is. A counter argument is that the patch would then have check box next to it, making it a requirement for a complete lodge collection according to the catalog. Editors say at this point that catalogs are just guides

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and people should collect what they want, but we know that people do get irritated by those check boxes next to unique or very rare unofficial patches.

A query about the rare Woapeu Sisilija 343 S1 flap triggered an interesting comment on Patch-L. The flap in question is the post1970 first flap that is toughest to find (Blue Book rates it a 10). It was issued in 1975.

Nelson Clements recounted his memory of the origins of the flap from his perspective as the last Lodge Advisor of Wapsu Achtu, one of the two lodges that merged to form Woapeu Sisilija. The relevant text of his message to Patch-L follows in italics.

The elected lodge chief of the two lodges designed the patch and it was ordered from an oriental based patch maker. The patch didn't come and didn't come so the lodge chief drew a couple that the officers wore.

The patch finally came and it had a buffalo that they said looked like a water buffalo. The first patches were bought by the lodge officers and the lodge chief sent me one. This patch was the one listed as s2. No one paid much attention to the borders. I had a couple of them and they were the same as the one the lodge chief sent me. All at once there popped up the other border that is listed as s1. One of the people who had the newer found border (S1) traded me for one with the older border (S2).

Later on the boy who was lodge sec! treas. when the patches came in went to work for me. We got talking about the patches and he told me that he had all the order and when they went on sale there were both colors in the order. He seems to remember that the ones listed as S1 were in the bottom of the box. He wasn't sure how many there were but I know there were more than 15. I suspect that there were probably quite a few. I know for a fact I have seen more than the 15 reported. At that time there were only a few people who were patch collectors so a lot of people only bought one or two flaps. So there weren't a lot traded.

Basically he is saying that the S1 and S2 came in the same order, and that he believes the S2 was made available to at least a few officers first. He makes no mention of when the rest of the lodge got flaps. He says nothing about the S1 being released in any special way. Note also that he owns both flaps.

The only replies to Nelson's report came from Dave Thomas of Texas, co-author of First Flaps in Color, and Don Bryson, a first solid flap collector from Kentucky. Dave commented that the first flaps had the yellow border (S 1) and were given to officers when the lodge was chartered. Don commented on his research on this flap at the 1998 NOAC, where he talked to every member of the 343 delegation. Although no one he spoke to had one, several people separately told this history.

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The lodge ordered a loom of patches for the first time. They had an event they were going to send their officers to and the patches had not come in. They pressured the patch company to send a few so they would have them at the event and they got 20 in. They gave them out to the officers and others who went to the event. It had the yellow border. When the rest of the shipment came in a few weeks later, they all had the orange border.

Clearly there are some differences of opinion about this lodge's first flap. Barring the existence of better information, perhaps it should be another for which the catalogs list a difference of opinion about which was first.

OA pie shapes continue as a hot area of interest. These have been historically under-appreciated in competition with the popular flaps, first flaps, and even Wabaningo patches. Many of the pies were one per life and their size means they can often be quite striking patches.

We have pointed out in the past John Pannell's site, The Internet Guide to Order of the Arrow Insignia (http://www.oaimages.com/) as possibly the most valuable site for OA collectors. The site is at some risk now, however, due to rising costs just to keep it up. There is a place on the home page now where collectors can make a donation to help defray the costs.

Several years ago the Ranachqua C1 brought a record price for an OA item, $24,500. An old member of the lodge, John Tegtmeier, who had been out of collecting for years came across a mention of that sale recently and it spurred him to write a note to Patch-L about his recollection of the badge. He believes that this patch was a gift to the founder and first chief of the lodge William Stump. Mr. Stump loaned the chenille to the lodge in 1967 for a display at their 47th anniversary dinner. Mr. Tegtmeier loaned much of his Ranachqua collection also. In the confusion of taking apart the display after the dinner, the chenille was stolen and was not seen again for 30 years.

Mr. Stump died a few years later having never seen the chenille again. We were unable to contact Mr. Tegtmeier to see if he had learned anything more.

Several people have told us that the Philadelphia Trade-O-Ree was great this year and getting back to what it once was, the premier annual TOR in the country. It is now under the aegis of Unami Lodge.

Well-known collectors, Mark Chilutti (past Unami Chief) and Bruce Dordick, help with the management of the event.

The 75 th anniversary two-piece set from Octoraro 22 mentions the lodge name and number on the pocket part only. The flap includes a horseshoe as the only clue to its origin (council camp is Camp Horseshoe). The first flaps received by the lodge had an error date, 1929-2001, instead of the correct date, 1926-2001, which appeared on corrected flaps later in the year. They have also issued a series of round patches for the anniversary, each at different events.

David Short reported in August that Hasinai 578 was offering 200 sets of four ghost flaps to raise money for a lodge building at their camp. One hundred sets were sold to members and the second 100 sets were offered to anyone at $61.

We were asked by one reader what Scoutopia was in reference to the OA and the NJ this past year, and specifically why Scoutopia flaps were commanding high prices on e-Bay. Bryan Ing told us the following: Scoutopia was a theatrical stage-show production organized completely by the Order of the Arrow (with many of the staff from NOAC shows). It was presented in an air-conditioned tent that sat ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

about 650 people. Bryan remembers that the tent was really huge, and fitted with intelligent lighting, full sound setup, a large projection screen, and stadium (tiered) seating.

The tent was split into different "levels" that audience members entered before being seated for the show. Each level prepared the audience for the show with a different setting and theme. Once everyone was seated, the show began and actors came out and spoke from a script. In between these speaking parts were short skits by 3 arrowmen that wore different colors- red, blue, and green (similar to the Blue Man Group). These people were called "utopians", and the actors were called "scouts," the mixing of the scouts and utopians in the show created the name "scoutopia." In general, the scouts would talk about one subject, and the utopians would back it up with a physical representation or skit on that subject (without saying a word; only with actions). The point of the show was that our DNA determines what we are, but we determine who we are, and what choices we make.

Present on every Scoutopia patch is something about the US Marines because the Marine Corps split the cost of the show 50/50 with the OA. Bryan thought the total cost was about $800,000. At the end of the show (and after a blue-man group finale with over 17 miles of toilet paper used each show), audience members signed a "wall of commitment" with their name and hometown, committing to do some act, or some thing to help others.

The supply of Scoutopia patches ran out about 1/4 of the way through the Jamboree; thus the majority of the attendees did not get the flap or csp (though everyone could buy the round). That explains the prices seen on e-Bay. Mike Hulsizer has published a reference book on the OA of the Buffalo, New York, area (lodges Ganosote 159, Tuscarora 284, and Ho-De-No-Sau-Nee 159). It is available in hard copy (printed from a desk top printer) and on a CD, with over 100 color images. He says it includes all patches (including chapter items and n/c), plus n/c slides. To obtain a copy, contact Mike bye-mail at hulsize@SWBELL.NET. Much of his information is also available at his web site: http://www.webster.edu/-hulsizer/oa/ We occasionally come across web sites where lodges offer their memorabilia for sale. Go to the Ku-Ni-Eh Lodge 145 site here: bllQ://tsungani.bizland .com/store/index. html Joe Gonzales, Advisor of Seminole 85, wrote to Patch-L in late September to report two fake Jamboree flaps using his lodge's name. The only official Jamboree flap from Seminole lodge is the one using the Super Bowl in the design. The two fakes (with silver and gold mylar borders) employ a previous design that mentions Fort AP Hill.

Several people wrote us with comments on the Tahosa 383 50 th anniversary mini-flaps we published last time. We're told that those patches and two others were issued at a lodge event leading up to and during the anniversary year. The sequence was as follows: May/June 1996: round like R1 September 1996: mini-flap like F3 February 1997: mini-flap like S7a May/June 1997: mini-flap like S14 September 1997: thunderbird patch like lodge's first activity patch (1960) February 1998: round pre-anniversary celebration 33

We are further told that Tahosa issued two 50 th flaps in 1998, one including the notation "NOAC" and one not. They also issued three different chevron patches to go with the 50 th flaps. One has the hidden green "NOAC," one has no additional markings; and the third includes the notation "Nuwingi." The Nuwingi chevron was awarded for attending four out of five events in 1998, including the Fall Fellowship. 200 of these were made, 96 were awarded, and the other 104 were destroyed.

378p1 leather on nlc ($610) 509x1 felt whale FF $766 ($1200) 530f1 $510 ($400) 546s1 FF $858 ($1000) We received word in late August that John Sell had passed away in Florida. John was one of the top OA collectors in the 1970s and many long-time traders have good memories of dealing with him.

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Several examples of fake 413s 11 flaps with plastic backs (real ones have cloth backs) reportedly surfaced at the NJ. The two prototypes of the 413j7, possibly to be the 413qj2, are in the possession of the lodge.

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The two-piece rededication patch setfrom Tahosa 383 was made by making one combined patch and then cutting it apart to make two separate patches, a flap and pocket patch.

The Shenshawpatoo 276 Jamboree flap with silver mylar border was sold as part of a $20 presentation set with two other patches; 100 sets were made.

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The 55 th anniversary flap and back patch from Ajapeu 351 celebrates the arrival of the OA in Vermont, not the anniversary of Ajapeu lodge itself.

Washita 288 made three flaps for the Jamboree that are all identical except for the feather embroidery in the design, which is white for the trader flap and silver or gold mylar for restricted flaps.

We spotted the following better OA issues changing hands on Intemet auctions sites recently. We published some of these last time and got no feedback on the experiment. Let us know if you enjoy seeing this information or if you think it is a waste of space.

Figures in parentheses for first flaps (FF) are estimated values for these patches published in the reference book First Flaps in Color.

3s1 $702 FF ($475) 19j2 Sis Dance Team $660 76f1 FF $443 ($525) 065p1? On nlc $810 116f1 $1100 ($800) 240r1 WAB ($522) 251c1b WAB ($1,185) 376f2 ($810) 34

If you have information from your Lodge or Section to share, please send a postcard or photocopies (with descriptions and preferably in color) to either of us (see contact information on inside front cover.

We can also use B&W images of new issues scanned at 300 dots per inch (DPI) or higher. We will trade for new issues if you wish.

Contributors: Eddie Mcinnes, Alan Caldwell, Richard Doti, David Fry, David Hultberg, Bill Roseland, Phil Row, AI Sakai, David Stock, John White, Dan Gille, George Goldring, Henry Robin, Stanley Burnham, Charles Henson, Jef Heckinger, Dave Scocca, William Jones, Bryan lng, David Short, Frank Ibero, Stephen White, Jim and Brett Montich, Larry Mitchell, Don Ames, Ben Peterson, Bill Topkis, Charles Hill, Bob Levin, Larry Banks, and Cary Sitarz.

New Issues 3s? Red R Blk Red Dor fdl 5s Blk R Gry Red Yel FDL Lodge 30 th ANN; Lodge 5 80 th ANN 5c14 Red _ Yel Blk _ Type 11 label; $25; [200] 6s Wht R M/C Yel Blk FDL JAM01; CD 18s? Wht R M/C Blk Red fdl; Wht "75"; 75 th ANN 19s Blk R Blk M/C Yel fdl; JAM01; two piece set 19x Blk R Blk M/C Yel FDL JAM01; pocket part of two piece set.

22s? Mar R M/C Smy Gmy fdl; JAM01; "75 YEARS OF CHEERFUL SERVICE 22s? Lgy R M/C M/C Gmy fdl; 75 th ANN; error dates; "19292001" 22s? Lgy R M/C M/C Gmy fdl; 75 th ANN; correct dates; "1926 2001" 22r? Blk R M/C Gmy Red fdl; 50 th ANN; "75 YEARS OF SERVICE" 22r? Red R M/C Gmy Gmy fdl; 75 th ANN; "SERVICE/75 YEARS OF SERVICE" 29f? Dbr C Dbr Dbr _ "C-2A 2001"; felt used 37s Yel R Yel Blk Yel FDL JAM01; CD; PB 37s Yel R Yel Yel Yel FDL JAM01; CD; PB 37j? Lbl R M/C M/C Red fdl 38f Blk R Blk Wht Wht FDL; JAM01; CD PB; top part of two piece set; felt used 38x Blk R Blk Blk _ JAM01; CD; PB; pocket part of two piece set; felt used 40zs2 Lgy R Grn Lgy Lor fdl; similar to 40s1 0 64f Grn R Lbl Dyl Dyl FDL; JAM01 64f Blu R Lbl Dyl Dyl FDL; JAM01 64f Red R Lbl Dyl Dyl FDL; JAM01 64f Gry R Lbl Dyl Dyl FDL; JAM01 80/136s Red R M/C Blk Lbl FDL; JAM01 joint issue of Lodges 80 and 136 88s Smy R M/C M/C Yel FDL; JAM01; CD; PB 95s M/C C M/C Blk Blk fdl; 65 th ANN; two-piece 95x M/C C M/C Wht Blk fdl; 65 th ANN; two piece 97s Red R M/C BBI Gmy fdl; two totems 140s? Smy C M/C Wht Smy fdl; 30 th ANN; PB 140x? M/C C M/C Wht Gry fdl; 30 th ANN; PB; pocket part to 30 th flap 140j? M/C C Yel Smy Smy fdl; 30 th ANN; PB 155s Wht R M/C Wht M/C FDL; JAM01; CD; PB 156s BBI R Wht Blk Dyl fdl; CD 164s Wht R M/C Wht Lgr fdl; Vigil?

175s? Blk R M/C Red Red fdl; JAM01 180s? Smy R Smy Smy _ JAM01; ghost ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

231s38 Gry R M/C M/C _ JAM01; [165; 11m] 231s38 Smy R M/C M/C _JAM01; [460; 5/m] 246s Dyl R Blk Wht Dyl fdl 252f4 Blu C Blu Blk Blu FDL; 2001 Summer Camp 258s Dgr R M/C Blk Blk fdl; "Barnett Campsite" 260s Wht R M/C M/C M/C fdl; stars and bars ghost 276s Red R M/C Yel Yel FDL; JAM01; CD; PB; [500] 276s Smy R M/C Yel Yel FDL; JAM01; CD; PB; [100] 276s FDL-2001 Jamboree. Silver mylar rolled edge, 317s19 Red C Nbl Dyl Nbl fdl; 2001 NE-4C Conclave; CD; PB; [300] 317s20 Red R M/C Dyl Dyl Fdl; JAM01; CD; PB; [600] 317s21 Gmy R M/C Dyl Dyl FDL; JAM01; CD; PB;[200] 339s8 Pur R M/C Red Red FDL; CD; PB 351 s? Rmy R M/C Red Yel fdl; 55 th ANN; "OA IN VERMONT/1946 2001" 351j? Red R M/C Red Yel fdl; 55 th ANN; round; "55 YEARS OF OA IN VERMONT" 358s? Grn C M/C Wht Lbl fdl; "358" hidden; [300] 383s? Dor R M/C Tan Blk fdl; "REDEDICATION"; PB 383x? Dor R M/C _ _ pocket part rededication flap 387s? Dgr R M/C Red Blu FDL; CD; PB

407s M/C C M/C M/C M/C FDL; JAM01; CD; PB 413j7? Obi R Wht Obi Red fdl; "VIGIL HONOR"; PB 413qj2 Obi R Wht Obi Yel fdl; "VIGIL HONOR"; PB; [2] 413zs8? Blk R Wht Blk Yel fdl; 115x53mm 422s? Lbl R M/C Dyl Wht fdl; 50 th ANN 434f? Gmy R M/C Red Blk BSA; Gmy "50"; 50 th ANN 457c? Uq _ Gry Red _ Dyl "50 th "; 50 th ANN 457j? Rmy R Wht Red _ "1951-2001"; 50 th ANN 457r? Gmy R Blu Blk _ "1951-2001"; Vigil triangle 457s? Gmy R Blk Red _ "1951-2001"; 50th ANN 457s? Red R Tur Red _ JAM01; 50 th ANN; PB 457s? Yel R Tur Red JAM01; 50 th ANN; PB 457x? Gmy R Blk Gmy _ "19512001"; 50 th ANN; TRI 459c? Blk _ Grn Gmy Smy BSA; 50 th ANN; "1951-2001"; "LIFE MEMBER"; Krelman 464s? Org R Blu Red Org fdl; Org "50"; 50 th ANN 464x? Org R M/C _ _ pocket part for 50th flap 464j? Gmy R Dor Blk _ "1951 2001"; 50 th ANN 464p? Yel R Lbl Red Red 2 fdls; "19512001"; issued on Grn and Wht striped nlc 464r? Gmy R Dor Gmy _ 50 th ANN; button loop; PB; "50 TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION" 466s14? Gmy R M/C Blk Red fdl; 50 th ANN; "50" 467s OBI R M/C M/C Yel FDL; JAM01; CD; PB 531s Wht R M/C Red Blk FDL; JAM01; CD; PB 554x1 Red R Blk Red Gry FDL; Arrow Quest Award

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457c_ 459c_ 50th 4578_ JAM01

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ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

by PAUL E. MYERS

MUSICIAN., QUARTERMASTER & LIBRARIAN- INSIGNIA This is a continuing series on troop position insignia, Jr. Asst. Scoutmaster, Senior Patrol Leader and Patrol Leader were covered in previous issues. Badges are in chronological order of issue, some are enlarged to show details.

4 distinct X's in shield Stars in shield are tiny threads Eagle is larger than #- 1 Eagle is smaller than #2 on cut edge coffee/tan cloth on cut edge coffee/tan cloth

Embroidered cut edge A. Coarse twill cloth B. Smooth twill cloth

3" green round cloth Introduced J972

Embroidered design on A. Coffee/tan cloth B. Sand twill cloth C. Khaki twill cloth Varieties exist in shades

3 stars in shield, on cut edge coffee/tan cloth silk thread embroidery

Embroidered cut edge A. Coarse twill cloth B. Smooth twill cloth

Indistinct dots in shield Cotton thread, cut edge A. Coffee/tan cloth B. Sand twill cloth C. Khaki cloth

Redesigned eagle, 4 stars in the shield. Silk tlu'ead on cut edge coffee/tan cloth

3" tan round cloth Introduced 1989

Cotion thread, detailing lost Indistinct X's in shield, cut edge on: A. Coffee/tan cloth B. Sand Twill cloth C. Khaki cloth

2 112" black twill round with green r/e made by the director of the 1951 World Jamboree Region 4 Band, 1951-1953

3" green round cloth, Intro. 1972 Large and small dot on pack flap

Embroidered cut edge A. Coarse twill cloth B. Smooth twill cloth

3" green round cloth Introduced 1972 dark & light brown embroidery varieties

3" tan round cloth Introduced 1989

3" tan round cloth Introduced 1989

Musician & Quartermaster were introduced in 1923, Librarian in 1936. Although these badges were produced by the tens of thousands earlier badges are scarce in unused condition. Not all troops had a Librarian or Musician and some varieties can be scarce. I have not positively identified a sand twill Librarian but listed it as a possibility.

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SCRIBE & BUGLER INSIGNIA

Embroidered quills on A. Coffee/Tan B. Sand Twill C. Khaki square cut cloth, often folded under

Embroidered bugle on A. Coffee/Tan B. Sand/Twill C. Khaki square cut cloth, often folded under

On square cut khaki cloth

Embroidered cut edge on khaki cloth A. Coarse twill cloth B. No twill cloth

3" green round Introduced 1972

3" tan round Introduced 1989

A badge similar to Type 1 exists on blue twill cloth that was used in the Air Scout program.

Embroidered cut edge border on khaki cloth A. Coarse twill cloth B. No twill cloth

Variety A, on green round cloth Two even lines of embroidery in bottom of bugle. Coarse cloth

3 II green cloth round lntro. 1972, Type A shown

3" tan cloth round Intwduced 1989, no known varieties.

Variety B, on green round cloth Bottom line in bugle is one large line. No twill cloth

From 1916~ 1926 boys who were Scribes or Buglers had the additional recognition of having crossed quills or a bugle beneath the emblem oftheir rank. The background color in the embroidery of the rank badge was gold, however a gunmetal, sometimes silver, replaced the gold background for boys who were Patrol Leaders as well as Scribes or Buglers.

Note variations in quill feathers, straight & fluted edges. Straight edge quills are unknown in regular Scribe badges.

A collection of position/rank badges would contain 12 badges, six with gold and six with gunmetal (silver) background.

It is believed that all varieties of rank badges, 1916~ 1926 exist as Scribe & Bugler issues. You can see differences in the eagles and 2nd Class scrolls in the badges above. Other varieties include Scribe badges with smooth or fluted quills and some issues of bugler are known with gold or gunmetal color tassels as well as with red tassels.

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ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

COLLECTING IN CYBERSPACE: HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS

by BEN PHARR Since the beginning of my column, many of you have been asking me about high speed Internet access. I hope this article will help you out: Modem technology has come a long way in the past decade. I remember when I was about twelve years-old, I would dial into a local (actually, only "semi-local" as the phone bills would reveal) BBS (Bulletin Board System) with my 1200bps modem attached to my 16MHz computer with a 40 MB hard drive. Yes, that 1200 bits per second. Ah, the good ole days.

A few years later I got shell access to the Internet over a 14,400 modem. Now, nearly everyone has a 56k modem. Even though mine won't connect anywhere near 56k due to phone line quality, ISP, etc, it sure beats that 14k modem. Now, with the World Wide Web offering more and more animations, audio, and video-people are wanting faster and faster Internet access. Unfortunately, our POTS (Plain Old Telephone Systern) just can't go any faster without some special equipment.

At school I have access to an OC3 which clocks in somewhere around 156 MBs per second. While very fast and reliable, a T3 is a little cost prohibitive for most individuals. It requires a leased line and lots of special equipment. The Internet people took notice of this and have come up with two other ways for individuals to get high speed Internet access: Cable and DSL. Cable is what it sounds like. It is generally sold by the same people that sell cable service for your television. It requires a cable modem which can cost anywhere from free to hundreds of dollars depending on the provider and the service contract. The price of the service itself can range quite a bit as well. Cable can be very fast and reliable. However, unlike

RED & WHITES (CONT) In the USAlABR category, there are five newly reported" -strips.

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DSL, the speed degrades as more people in your neighborhood get on. Generally, your requests are sent to the ISP over your phone line by rnodem and the response is sent over the cable. Some metropolitan areas have two-way cable where both the request and the response travel over the cable. This is fine as long as you don't try to use your computer as a server.

DSL stands for Digital Subscriber Line.

DSL is considered to be slightly better for a couple of reasons. First of all, the speed doesn't degrade as more people use the service in your neighborhood. Also, your requests are sent over the DSL line instead over the modem. Uploads are still usually slower than downloads, but not as much so. DSL is installed using the extra copper wire in your existing phone lines. It does require a DSL modem as well. Be careful, as the DSL provider market is very volatile, and they can go out of business at any time. Also, a modem you get for one service might not work with another.

DSL is typically a little more expensive with cable, but I consider it to be worth the money.

You will most likely be limited to certain services depending on where you live. For instance, Belmont, Mississippi, my hometown, has neither. Oxford, Mississippi, where I go to school, has cable and is in the process of getting DSL. There are a few other Internet delivery technologies that are starting to spring up.

Satellite, two-way satellite (http:// www.getdway.com). two-way cable, and wireless, just to name a few. My recommendation is to sit back and watch the different providers fight it out before jumping in.

Safe Shopping on the Internet: One other concern that many of you have expressed to me is the safety of paying for online pur-

brown Explorer strip from the capital BOGOTA 112GB. The two from Germany include a blue and yellow Cub Scout STUTTGART 1/2BY and BOBLINGEN 1/2RW. There is an umlaut above the "0", but my keyboard offered no such choice.

We know from both its contribu-

chases with a credit card. Is it safe?

Definitely. First of all, the process of getting the credit card information from your computer to the business' server is secure if they are using SSL, or the Secure Sockets Layer. Why am I so trusting of SSL? Well, SSL is pure mathematics. Actually, it's a division of mathematics called cryptography. If all the computers in the world ganged up on you and tried to break the encryption on the network packets carrying your credit card information it would take them longer than the lifetime of the Universe. (Assuming the Universe is closed, but that's another magazine.)

The main weakness of an ecommerce system is when the credit card information is sitting on the business' server waiting to be processed. This is the point where many credit card numbers have been compromised. This is due to lack of security on the part of the business. However, while crackers like to prove they can break into a site, most of them care nothing about actually using the information they find.

This isn't because of their high moral character, it's because they know it's the easiest way for them to get caught.

In the rare case they decide to use your stolen card information, you're still safe.

Any credit card worth anything has card holder protection. Generally you're only liable for goods up to a certain dollar amount. If you don't know the policy on your card (or cards) now would be a good time to find out.

I hope this article has helped you understand these somewhat complicated subjects. I hope I didn't go too far over anyone's head. If you have questions about this article, or suggestions for my next one, please feel free to e-mail me at ben@benpharr.com.

tor and the fine research by Chuck Kirkland that Troop 45 functioned in that community.

Although this makes the 23 rd Germany community 1/2 strip there should be lots more as Chuck Kirkland's research documented Scouting programs in 112 different German cities.

Thanks go out to the following individuals for their contributions; Doug Bearce, Beth Clardy, Bear Ellis, Chuck Kirkland, Dave Ramp, Bruce Raver, Mitch Reis, and Harry Weiss.

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by ANDY DUBILL Hi, my name is Andy Dubill and I would like to welcome you to our fifth column! We had so many nice comments about last quarter's column where you answered the new collector's question about what to collect, that I decided to do another audience participation column this month!

Hope you enjoy it! I shortened some of the first twenty-five responses that I received to be able to fit them in. Sorry that I couldn't use them all!

We have the column inches to fill each issuenow we need the last ingredient - your questions!! Please email or mail your questions to me as you think of them. We will answer as many of them as we can fit into each column. Do your part - email a question that has been puzzling you right now while you are thinking about it. Thanks to all the ISCA members and members of Patch - L who responded this month! ********

I have enjoyed reading your column! What is your most prized or special Scouting collectible that you own? How much is it worth?

This is a great question. I have thousands of items in my collection (it's amazing how fast a collection grows in just a few years!).

I knew right away what my most prized possession was in my collection. However, there is potentially a different answer for each collector. I decided to poll the collectors on an online patch-collecting list that I belong to (Patch-L) to see what their most prized Scouting collectible was. I received many different ideas and points of view and decided to share as many of them as space permits this month. Here are some of their most prized Scouting collectibles: Mine is the Eagle medal and merit badge sash earned in 1928 that I received as a gift from the widow of one of my long time patients.

Great old Santee 116 & Dixie Fellowship memorabilia - Going back to the late 30's on Santee and the late 40's on Dixie. Great collection and so many fine collectors!

My own favorite personal scouting collectible is my University of Florida Gator JSP from 1997 (North Florida Council), which was sent to me by my very best patch-trading friend.

He and I met through patch trading, he

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helped my son and I get started, and he knew I am a very big Florida Gator fan. He managed to trade for one of these impossible to get patches, and mailed it to me right from the Jamboree.

My most prized patch in my collection is now in another friend's collection. I acquired the patch from a friend who was leading a contingent to Philmont. He had an extra one, I had wanted to go but could not take off work for that long; so, he gave it to me.

That was fifteen years ago. It was a large back patch and had over 15 colors. Years later, I had a friend who quit collecting CSP's and gave his collection to me. I wanted this friend to know how much I appreciated his generosity and his friendship so I gave him the back patch. He displays it proudly as it is now very valuable. His friendship is worth more to me than the value of any back patch and I am quite happy that he is now enjoying it.

This question is easy. My Philmont Kit Carson Trek patch. Earned it 28 years ago but the memories from that trek are still fresh in my mind!

The Scouter's watch my son gave me the night of his Eagle Scout ceremony.

My late father's wool Scout uniform, OA beaded Vigil sash, and various awards. It is a reminder of the time, dedication and sacrifices he and my late mother made in order to sponsor me in Scouting. He and I developed a great relationship due to this time together. I consider him to have been one of my best friends.

This is easy. My most prized piece is a 1937 National Jamboree Christy post card. And it is used! His Scoutmaster Charlie Breish sent it to my father when dad was eighteen year's old. Charlie became my Scoutmaster in 1963 and retired after 48 years as Scoutmaster of Troop 54 in Dayton, Ohio.

The most prized item that I have would be a summer camp patch from the black camp that was owned by my council. What makes this item extra special is that a friend who had attended that summer camp as a youth gave it to me. He gave me the patch after he learned I took my ordeal at this camp after it was closed and before it was sold.

My most prized BSA collectible is the first Direct Service-Nepal CSP that I traded for with the scoutmaster in Katmandu. It was the fruit of a six-month ferreting effort.

My 159 S-1 lodge flap that I received after my Ordeal in 1967. One look at it

and I'm 15 again. Ah, the power of the patch!

My favorite Scouting item is a Philmont Rayado patch. These are given to those completing the strenuous Rayado hike. This is the limited square patch. But what makes it special is a Scout gave it to me at his Eagle ceremony in appreciation for the help I had given him toward Eagle. When informed of the value of the patch, he told me he knew that but the memories of Rayado are in the head and not in a piece of cloth.

No idea of the value but my most prized collectible is a copy of Norman Rockwell's "World of Scouting" with a personal note to me from "Green Bar" Bill Hillcourt on the title page.

My favorite is my R&W community strip off of my Scout uniform. I was a Boy Scout during 1947-49.

The strip says "CARTERET". This was a small industrial town of 11,000 on the river separating east central New Jersey from Staten Island.

My most prized item is a Service Corps neckerchief from the 1968 Area 3A conference hosted by Delmont Lodge 43 of Valley Forge Council at Camp Delmont. I was a member of the Service Corps and the host lodge. The neckerchief is signed by E. Urner Goodman, who was a guest speaker at the conference.

The most prized piece in my collection is: Tipisa Lodge 326 F3. I had only seen one in my lifetime and never saw one for sale except for the one I purchased. I have a great friend who once told me every piece comes around and you have to be ready when it does. In my short trading life of just over 12 years his statement has been very true.

I have a few favorite items. The first is a copy of The Bible that I was given to take with me the night I had my Vigil. The second is a copy of a 1930 Camp brochure from the first year of our council camp.

A T'Kope Kwiskwis Lodge 502 X3 1967 NOAC patch. It was a gift from the designer.

My favorite is the flap I received when I completed my ordeal and was granted full membership. I have several frames of patches, but that Awase s2b is in a frame by itself.

I guess my most prized Scouting collectible would be my Eagle card, and three Palm cards. Eagle was so difficult for me because of my having had infantile paralysis (polio ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2001

today) like former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The athletic merit badges were my last to complete in order for me to become an Eagle in 1944 when I was 17 years old.

Anyone who doesn't say his Eagle presentation kiUfirst lodge flap/special lodge neckerchief/patches earned as a boy back in good 01' Troop whatever must be mentally excluding them from his "collection." If someone held a gun to my head and said give me all but one or two, the ones above are definitely keepers. Dollar value pales as compared to the sentimental value.

My favorite is my 1971 Beaumont Scout Reservation 25th Anniversary back patch.

You had to be a camper that year, and you could only order one. They were made by The May Company, a local department store.

The patches were mailed out after summer camp was over for the year.

My set of Scout Law coins by Norman Rockwell.

As members of the two troops from Bucktail Council to the 1950 NJ in Valley Forge, we were each given an authentic buck tail that was worn from our belt as part of our "official jamboree uniform". I still have mine and have kept it in near perfect condition as a treasure from my boyhood days in scouting. As I recall, patch trading was not big at that time and the buck tails were a most sought after item at the jamboree. Very few were traded but those scouts willing to part with theirs got much in return.

across it. I mostly collect OA and CSP's, but I also have an extensive collection of memorabilia from my own council.

This is a very intriguing question. I considered my 334 S4 (25th anniversary).

It was from the year I was tapped out and was the first piece in my Lodge collection.

Then I thought about the 334 F1 given to me by my Scoutmaster. My father died when I was just 15 months old, and Scouting gave me many opportunities that I otherwise wouldn't have had. My Scoutmaster was instrumental in forming the man I am today, and unfortunately that patch is my only link to him. Sorry to carryon so - but it was fun reliving those memories.

Although they had many different suggestions on what to collect, there was a common theme that ran across most of the replies. Most talked about a particular Scouting memory rather than a very expensive piece of clothe. Even when the item had a tremendous value, like the Foley pins, the collector seemed to collect them for the connection they provided to the pioneers of the early days of Scouting.

Now for my favorite item of Scouting memorabilia. It is a fossil brachiopod found at the Charles Howell Scout Reservation during a Troop 75

Author's Most My most prized scouting Prized Collectible items are my T.H. Foley scout pins. These are Scout campout and the first rewards given hike in 1959. My dad out to the earliest scouts and I were hiking along (pre-1914) for mastering the trail and I happened the Tenderfoot, Second to look down on the Class, First Class and ground and spotted this Eagle Scout awards. I beautiful fossil of a have 31 of them and shellfish that is millions even though some of of years old. I did not these are duplicates I Author in 1959 pick it up at the time, cherish each one of but after the hike was them. Most of these pins were probably over, I went back down the trail and found earned by someone who is over 100 years it. It has been with me for over forty years. old now - and probably long since dead.

This collection of T.H. Foley pins is presently Every time Ilook at it, I think of the inspiration worth more than my IRA account. that my dad and mom were to me in helping I would have to say that my most prized me along the Scouting trail. I also think of collectible would have to be a couple of the mighty Raven patrol of Troop 75 neckerchiefs from the lodges here in my sponsored by Isaac Newton Elementary council. The first one is a neckerchief from School in Detroit and all the friends and Golden Eagle Lodge #313. It is a hard item memories that I have to remember from to obtain, and I had been searching for it for those days. about 3 years when I was able to come Don't forget to send those questions!

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TEN MILE RIVER SCOUT CAMPS ALUMNI SEARCH Ten Mile River Scout Camps will be celebrating its 75th anniversary on Saturday, July 20, 2002 at Headquarters Camp, T.M.R. All Ten Mile River alumni are encouraged to visit the T.M.R. website at www.tmr75.org to learn more about the plans for the 75th anniversary celebration.

CANOE BASE ALUMNI SEARCH Bruce Richardson, ISCA #1421, maintains a website that covers all aspects of the Region 7 / Northern Wisconsin Canoe Base. This was the High Adventure base in Northern Wisconsin that is now closed.

The base had a memorable effect on the Scouts who attended and the Staff who worked there. The website covers history, patches and other memorabilia, staff listings, and memories. Associated with the site is an email reflector upon which former staff swap stories. A lot of good memories have been rehashed recently. As former staff or Scouts find the site, new inputs are given to the author/website maintainer which eventually wind up on the website.

For the patch collector, there is an on-line version of the collecting catalog originally penned by Chuck McBride. Also, stickers and neckerchiefs have been catalogued.

In the coming year, there will be at least one short article about Region 7 Canoe Base collecting fine points. Visit the site at: http://w9fz.com/canoebase/index.html .

For the reflector, see the instructions on the links page.

BSA Facts and Figures President William Howard T aft was the first Honorary President of the BSA. Theodore Roosevelt was the first Honorary Vice-President and Chief Scout Citizen.

At the end of 1911, total membership of the BSA to date was 61,495.

On April 4, 2000 the BSA registered its 100 millionth member.

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If you trade 1 for 1 and would like to be listed on the next ISCA Journal 1 for 1 page, e-mail me a note. Include your name, ISCA membership number , address, e-mail address, council, lodge, and a very brief description of your 1 for 1 trade offer. You can contact me at . If you don't have access to e-mail send a post card to me at 2915 W. Charleston, Suite 4 Las Vegas, NV 89102. If you want your listing to be repeated in the next issue, send me an e-mail or a note for each issue with all of the information you want listed. We will not automatically run your listing more than once.

Jim Ellis, ISCA Journal Editor

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Levi Ottwell 2216 Troy Rd.222 Edwardsville, IL 62025 leroy_32@hotmail.com Kishkakon #32 up to 2 e-mail me first please

Alan R. Greenberg ASTA # 2645 423 Crest Drive Northvale, NJ 07647-1325 EXT2AXG@UPS.COM 9 Lenapehoking Northern NJ Council

Mike Conkey, ISCA #1154 2664 South Nome Street Aurora, CO 80014-1850 mconkey@compuserve.com Tahosa Lodge. 383

Robert Ross #1429 3552 Mississippi St. San Diego, CA 92104-4029 jubeloh@aoLcom Tiwahe S-4b up to three.

Please write/email first.

Your 1 for 1 listing can be here, just email your name, ISCA #, address, e-mail and a short-listing of your trade to journaledit@aol.com

Mark Mitchell ISCA# 0413L 1129 Roslyn Ave NW Canton OH 44708 Trade 1:1 my 377 Sipp-O Lodge Flap Buckeye Council CSP

Joe Baschnagel ISCA # 1022 4990 Lower Mt. Rd. Lockport, NY 14094 Iroquois Trail Council CSP basch1@juno.com

Ernest T. Enold 317 University st.

Berea Ohio 44017-2017 Cuyahoga Lodge #17 Up To 3:3

Tad Hall ISCA #0371 1709 Stuyvesant Ave. Trenton, NJ 08618 Sakuwit Lodge #2, Central New Jersey Council

Howard M. Gross ISCA #369L 6155 Westgate Drive #723 Orlando, FL 32835-7064 howardgr@cfl.rr.com Central Florida Council, Tipisa Lodge 326 UQ"to 2:2

J. K. Blake ISCA #0603 1307 Eastwood Dr Rolla, MO 65401-4503 blakefam@wavecomputers.net Ozark Trails Council #306 Wah-Sha-She Lodqe #42

Dave and Sandy Miller ISCA #367 4470 Spanish Trail #E-63 Pensacola, FL, 32504 miller310@pcola.gulf.net Gulf Coast Council Lodge #385 Collect: 11, 21, 51 73, 74 91

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12th Annual South Carolina Scout Memorabilia Trade-O-Ree 2002 5pm - 1am gam - 4pm

January 11,2002 Friday January 12, 2002 Saturday TOR Location:

South Carolina National Guard Armory 107 Rockmont Rd., Easley, SC 29640

Hotel Location:

Days Inn, 121 Days Inn Dr., Easley, SC 29640 864-859-9902 Local Front Desk. $36.95 Special Room Rates

Registration:

Get 1 Free Registration with each table reservation.

Make Reservations Before 12/1/01 and Get Free Pizza Friday Night.

Adults $3 Scouts 17 and under FREE Inside Tables $25 Wall Tables $30

Silent Auctions start at 9 pm Friday. We have 1000+ items to be sold ... most with NO MINIMUM BIDS. We have wide aisles with new tables to provide you room to breathe and get around. Free Table Rentals to Any BSA Council to turn "dead" inventory into cash, or promote your camp!

Plan Now to attend the biggest and the best of the TOR's in the Southeast. LOTS OF SPACE! 8500 SQUARE FEET to show your stuff .... The DAYS INN SPECIAL DISCOUNT RATE is only $36.95 for 1-4 People. You must call the local front desk to get this special rate. Many modest priced restaurants are within sight of the Days Inn, so no one will go hungry. Airport Shuttle available to Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport, call Streamwood with your flight information for assistance.

Streamwood promotes the South Carolina TOR on a year-round basis, so there is little guess why the South Carolina TOR had 300+ collectors, and 81 tables of dealers attend the 2001 event. We are the company with the most experience running Trade-O-Ree's ... 18 Regional and National TOR's so far! Plan now to attend. You will not be disappointed. For more info contact us at: Streamwood, Inc Chris Jensen PO Box 1841 Easley, SC 29641

Phone FAX E-Mail WebSite

864-859-2915 864-855-5010 cjensen@streamwood.net www.streamwood.net

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Region 7 / Northern Wisconsin National Canoe Base

Ghost Flap Sets For Sale Hasinai Lodge, 578, Beaumont, Texas Offers a limited issue set of 4 Ghost flaps Only 200 made of each color Each set is numbered and comes with a Certificate of Authenticity

Seeking Region 7 Canoe Base needs: NBW-06 NBW-22 NBW-44 NBW-08 NBW-24 NBW-46a NBW-14 NBW-27 NBW-50a If you've got fern, I want 'em. I have a broad list of Canoe Base trading stock.

Price: $60/set + $1 shipping Proceeds go to build a Camp Building for the Lodge.

Sec the Region 7 Canoe Base website at: http://w9fz.com/canoebase/index.html

Send Check, made out to "BSA" to: David Short Lodge Advisor, 578 200 Pine Burr Vidor, Texas 77662

Bruce Richardson ISCA # 1421 2330 Lexington Ave S. #3l2 (65\) 686-8017 Mendota IIts, MN 55120 w9fz@ix.netcom.com

We are a small lodge and our patches are usually restricted (1Iact), we very seldom sell patches to others

The I'Marve/" Patches!

2001 National Jamboree Contingent Patches from Theodore Roosevelt Council

Get yours before they're gone ... I pre-ordered several sets and backpatches from the council before the Jamboree and blew many of them out the first day there. I held some sets back to sell on e-bay and here but I only have a very limited quantity so please act quickly.

The price for the backpatch is $95.00 per patch and the set of seven JSP's is $95.00 per set. All orders must include an additional $7.50 to cover shipping, handling and insurance.

PLEASE DO NOT SEND CASH! Send money order or personal checks only to: Michael Green, 436 Grand Boulevard, Massapequa Park, NY 11762.

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MAIL TO: DON TURK

PAIRS @ $15.00 PER PAIR, PPD.

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ENCLOSED IS A CHECK OR MONEY ORDER FOR $,______

HEMET CA 92544-2404

MAKE CHECK OR MONEY ORDER PAYABLE TO: "BSA - CAHUILLA LODGE 127" NAME'---_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _,MAILINGADDRESS,_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___ STATE._ _ _ _ZIP CODE'--_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ PHONE #.I-(--J-)_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __

\\layne Farrar. Director/Curator Frank B. Day, Jr.. Assistant Curator

The Hammerstone Scout Museum All South Carolina (185, 221, 236 & 270)

Founded in 1985, the Society is a sOle 01on·pwfil nrganil<Hion with an exclusive mission of: Supporting the establishment of 11 fitting and pJOjJcr Museum and other educational f~lcilitics, for

Dixie Fellowship, S.E. Region and Camp Coker (Pee Dee Area Council

BUY I TRADE I SELL I collect OA Jacket Patches from all lodges.

furthering the Scout lllovement and the hClitage of the American Indian. To promote scholarship and research relative to the Scnut movement and the heritage of the American Indian. To work cooperatively with the OccollL'cchcc Council. BSA and other organizations and individuals 111 promoting these purposes.

Museum Hours Visitatinn to the museum is by appointment only. Campsites for Bov Scout Units and families arc available in the vast area sllr~ou!ldillg the Museum. Periodically, camporct2s arc held in conjunction with the Museum activities. If you. your patroi. or SOTlleone you know \vould like to visit the Museum, then call or write for 11 reservation and a schedule of upcoming events.

AdmiSSIOn is Frc~, hut donations arc apprcciatcd~ Guided and self... guided tours arc available to individuals or groups. Milke plan~

now ttl visit Hammcl stone:

,', Looking for col/ections, rare ami obscure memombilia.

2210 Leaflet Church Iload Lillington, NC 27546 (800) 756-5296 . (910) 814-2955

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VENTURA COUNTY COUNCIL 11TH ANNUAL SCOUT MEMORABILIA AUCTION 2002

Date:

1st and 2nd of February 2002

Time:

Doors open 6 PM Friday trading and fellowship until?

Doors open 9 AM Saturday Silent auctions begin 10:00 AM, Live auction 1 PM

Location:

Oxnard Elks Lodge 801 S. A St. Oxnard, CA 93032

Admission:

$2.00, includes bid number. Scouts under 18 yrs. of age in uniform free

Tables:

$10.00 each includes admission Send reservation to Scout office

Contact:

Greg Metzgus, (805) 498-5495 Email coppersmith@sprintmail.com Bill Sternberg, (805) 933-9020

100 of the above CSP were made with a white border and are on sale at the Scout Store for $8.00 each. 75 red mylar CSP's were made and are available at the event for $10.00. They will be sold only to attendees. 75 blue mylar CSP's were made and one will be given for every $100 worth of memorabilia donated prior to the TOR with the proceeds going to help complete our new Scout Store. Checks or money orders can be sent to the council office. Please add $2.00 for shipping and handling. Make payable to Ventura County Council BSA and mail to:

Ventura County Council BSA 509 Daily Dr. Camarillo, CA 93010 46

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THE HISTORY OF

A Guide to Memorabilia

CAMP RANACHQUA (1917-1937)

of the

Ten Mile River Scout Camps I" Edition ~ 2001

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New From the Ten Mile River Scout Museum 1. O.A. Commemorative Plaque - Recognize your important milestones in the Order of the Arrow with this attractive 8" x 10" all-wood standing frame and color illustration, personalized with your name, Ordeal Honor, Brotherhood or Vigil induction date and Lenape name (Vigil).

A great gift for OA friends.

2. The History of Camp Ranachqua (1917-1937) This book is based on the video documentary "A History of Camp Ranachqua (19171937)" with additional photos and maps. 51 pgs.

3. A Guide to Memorabilia of the Ten Mile River Scout Camps, 1st ed., 2001. First

general guide to memorabilia from the largest councilowned camp in the U.S. with over 1,000 detailed black & white photos. Includes neckerchiefs, patches, neckerchief slides, bolo ties, mugs, plates, pennants, post cards and many other categories. Also sections on Kanawahkee Lakes and Kanes Open camps and short histories of all the T.M.R. camps. For the T.M.R. collector and individuals interested in the history of the Ten Mile River Scout Camps.

90 pgs. Comes with CD-ROM version in full color (PDF format).

4. 5-Lodge patch set- Issued

in 2000, this six-patch set (five flaps & 1 rocker) commemorates the association between the five N.Y.C. Order of the Arrow Lodges and the five original Borough Camps at the Ten Mile River Scout Camps. Each is based on a photograph of a key camp landmark with the lodge totem in color. The rocker depicts a map ofT.M.R. circa 1937.

O.A. Ritual Booklets - These four booklets are reformatted but faithful recreations of documents originally issued by the Grand Lodge or individual lodges. All words and punctuation are exactly as they appear in the originals.

For those interested in the history and early rituals of the

WW.w.: 5. Ritual for the First Degree of the Wimach-tendienk (circa Nov. 1925), 1998. 16 pgs.

6. Ritual for the Second Degree of the Wi machtendienk (circa Nov. 1925), 1998.10 pgs.

7. Ritual for the Third Degree (Vigil) of the Order of the Arrow, 1998 - This booklet is a faithful recreation of two early (undated) Third Degree ceremonies, one from Owasippe Lodge. 20 pgs.

8. Ritual for the Installation of Officers W.W.W. (circa Nov. 1925),2000.12 pgs.

9. Ten Mile River History Video Series - These short narrated video documentaries cover in detail the histories of the N.Y.C. Borough Camps from the Kanawahkee Lakes days to 1938. Based entirely on original photos and maps, camp documents and narrative histories by staffers: Bronx - The History of Camp Ranachqua (1917-1937).* 19 min.

Brooklyn - A History of the Brooklyn Scout Camps (1917-1937).

15 min.

Queens - A History of Camp Man* (1930-1938) -15 min. *Available 1211/01

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1. O.A. Commemorative Plaque** ..................................................................___ @ $25 ea

2. Tbe History of Camp Ranacbqua (1917-1937) Book................................. _ _ @$12 ea.

3. A Guide to Memorabilia of tbe Ten Mile River Scout Camps ................. ____ @ $23 ea.

4. 5-lodge patches sets........................................................................................ ___ @ $32 ea.

5. Ritual for the First Degree of the Wimacbtendienk***.............................___ @ $5 ea.

6. Ritual for the Second Degree of the Wimachtendienk****.......................___ @ $5 ea.

7. Ritual for the Third Degree (Vigil) of the Order of the Arrow***** ......._ _ @ $5 ea.

8. Ritual for the Installation of Officers W.W. W............................................ ___ @ $5 ea.

9. The History of Camp Ranachqua video (1917-1937)................................. _ _ @ $12 ea.

A History of the Brooklyn Scout Camps video (1917-1937) ...................... ___ @ $12 ea.

A History of Camp Man (1930-1938) video .............................................. _ _ @$12ea.

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oa\( Tre www.SCDutstuff.net SPECIAllZING IN THE FOLLOWING SCOUrING MEMORABILIA .....

• 1935-1997 National Jamboree souvenirs (patches,N/C's,pins, miscellaneous) • •

Vintage Rank and Badge of Office patches and pins (youth & odult).

Vintage Official Handbooks (Scouts,Explorers,Seascouts,Cubs,AII Leaders) • Early (1920's, 1930's) Scouting fiction books and British Scouting books.

• Back issues of Boy's Life and Scouting magazines (1920's-1999).

• Unique BSA pasters, pamphlets, sheet music, and historical documents.

• 1930-80's Uniforms (shirts,pants,shorts,hats,leggings,belts,N/C's, etc).

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Lady Baden-Powell's 1924 World Jamboree patch

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The Mississippi Collector Marshall Hollis 1008 City Ave. Ripley, MS 38863 (II) 662-837-1500 (W) 662-837-7300 FAX: 662·837·3600

30 years of experience buying-selling-trading Louisiana BSA memorabilia. Free appraisals.

Also seeking state-shaped patches and scout maps.

John Snead 3040 South Eugene SI. Baton Rouge, LA 70808

Special Need!

397 A1 Wabaningo issue

VIRGINIA STUFF Collecting ALL Mississippi (Lodges 169, 193,202,260,345,404, & 558) OA, Red & White,

CSP's, JSP's, Conclave, Camp, ETC Need:

193 Yellow Sun S-7 260 - C-I, FIA, S-14 345 N-l 404 S-9 Cut Edge Ordeal '56 & '57 Camp Currier Conclave Patches

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Collectors of Virginia Scout Memorabilia OA Only Roanoke Stuff Joe Drumheller Sam Drumheller (540) 882-4404 40650 Hurley Lane Paeonian Springs, VA 20129

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CollecLionsl old O.A. patches, Texas Conclaves and ANYTHING else old and in decent condition,

Wanted old Merit Badge Sashes from Texas Councils. With Insignia.

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SOUTH CAROLINA BOY SCOUT COLLECTIBLES NG IN: •

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Orcier of the Arrow ilems • Odd Shapes· Flaps Chenilles· Chapter Items· Activity PCltclJes Insignia· Comp Patches· Merit Badges, Etc.

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Australia & New Zealand Jambos, Ventures, Moots, Regattas, & Corroborees

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OA NEEDS LODGE #200 N-I, N-2, N-3, N-6/X-6 red sky curves to follow border, round MOHAW CHAPTER patch, 1946 & 1948 Pilgrimage patches, 1966 Summer Fellowship (mint), 1991 Spring Fellowship patch (NO TWILL), "ALACHACUSCOWILLA" chapter sticker patch, new ROUND Elangomat patch, N-4 (any).

LODGE #525 F-3, S-2A, S-2B, R-I, J-2 OA NUMBER NEEDS 73, 314, 352F, 538 OA NAME NEEDS (OLD) 47 HANIGUS 195 MA-TA-CAM 106 CHIEF SHAB 241 TOMAHAWK 246 WAKODA 138 DAW-ZU 155r MICH 255 CHIEF CORN 181 MAHIKAN 256 BLACK BEAV 182 LONE WOLF 304 MIWOK

311 KOO BEN 313 BISON 322 WHITE FANG 345 WHITE PAN 346 WIYAKA 370 MASSA

373s CARA 390 NITA 418 NICK STO 424 AMOCHOL 470 AMANQ 542 KIMIN

AREA CONF/SECTION NEEDS AREA J AREA VI-D 1945 Leather slide 1950 Leather slide 1947 Leather slide 1949 Leather slide SECTION SE-6 (FLORIDA) 1979 Host PP (maroon border) 1980 Host PP (white letters) 1981 Host pp (gold arrow) SE-6 Neckerchief (No Panama Canal, It. Blue "6") SE-6 Neckerchier (No Panama Canal, med. Blue "6") SECTION SR-4/S-4 1993 Section Seminars neckerchief

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John Pleasants (800-322-3918) P.O. Box 296, Stanley, NC 27355-0296 EMAIL: Pleasant@emji.netWebsite:ww.oapatch.com

Gene Cobb (318-201-4899) P.O. Box 11, Vidalia, LA 71733-0011 EMAIL: genecobb@laribay.net

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Doug & Robin Bearce (503-399-9872) P.O. Box 4745, Salem, OR 97302-4742 EMAIL: bearce@prodigy.net Ebay ID: WW

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Cal & Fran Holden (800-663-2793) P.O. Box 264, Doylestown, OH 44230-0264 EMAIL: GoodoldaysCal@aol.com

Tom & Rosemary Ashton (952-898-4125) 728 Nicollet Blvd. E., Burnsville, MN 55337 EMAIL: TOROAS@aol.com Ebay ID: Scoutiques

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Darrell Wessinger (800-572-2427) 177 Sandy Bank Dr., Lexington, SC 29072 EMAIL: Darrwess@aol.com

Russell Smart (864-271-9855) P.O. Box 16449, Greenville, SC 29606-7449 EMAIL: smart@scoutstuff.net Ebay ID: bossbaldy Web Site: www.scoutstuff.net

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Mitch Reis (860-688-4581) 883 Matianuck Ave., Windsor, CT 06095 EMAIL: mitchreis@home.com Ebay ID: mreis Web Site: http:\\MitchReis.com

Chris Jensen (864-859-2915) P.O. Box 1841, Easley, SC 29641-1841 EMAIL: cjensen@streamwood.net Ebay ID: Swappraiser Web Site: www.streamwood.net

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THE CAROLINA TRADER *

Kirk Doan (816-691-2739) 2600 Grand Ave., Ste. 900, Kansas City, MO 64108 EMAIL: kirkdoan@qni.comEbayID:Kirkdoan@qni.com Web Site: www.kirkdaon.com

Richard Shields (704-282-1339) P.O. Box 769, Monroe, NC 2811-0769 EMAIL: Carotrader@trellis.net Ebay ID: Tuschanna Web Site: www.TheCarolinaTrader.com

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Earle & Dolores Painter (863-858-8940) P.O. Box 92577, Lakeland, FL 33804-2577 EMAIL: EandDP56@aol.com

Greg Baechtle (843-851-3193) P.O. Box 1248, Summerville, SC 29484-1248 EMAil: patchcon@quick.com Ebay ID: patch con Web Site: www.charlston.quick.com/patchcon

SCOUTING MEMORIES

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Robert Hannah (952-894-2720) 7403132 nd Circle, Savage, MN 55378-1296 EMAIL: proscout@hotmail.com

Roy More (734-663-6203) 2484 Dundee, Ann Arbor, MI 48103 EMAIL: spa@msen.com Web Site: www.tspa.com

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THE STEVENSON'S *

Jim Clough (865-379-7486) P.O. Box 6754, Maryville, TN 37802-6754 EMAIL: wakpominee_48@mns.com fax: 865-379-7487

Bea & Jim Stevenson (817-354-8903) 316 Sage Lane, Euless, TX 76039-7906 EMAIL: thestevensons@airmail.net Web Site: www.thestevensons.com

Check out our website: www.kirkdoan.comlsosmdlhtm *Indicates dealers who publish sales & auctions. Contact them directly to be added to their mailing list

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IDr. mene merman 88-01 35 lAve. UaCKson l'TIeignts, N"M 113'7'2 ('7'18) 458-229~ Looking For: ORDER OF THE ARROW 250Z - Round leather fake Minnewasco patch

LODGE 4 - Ranachqua

LODGE 24

NEW YORK CITY OA C-1 7" Green chenille (6-9 inches tall) Green arrowhead with red arrow, black "R" (May not exist) Oseetah Neckerchief, yellow with red piping and gray silkscreen Oseetah patch - green leather, gray rock

1960 St. Louis

WIU.: IDENTIFY YOUR COLLECTION BY BLUE BOOK 3, FLORIDA O.A. HANDBOOK-THE FIRST 50 YEARS, OR ARAPAHOE 2000 -DO HISTORICAL RESEARCH ~HUNT DOWN RARE/EXOTIC PATCHES FOR YOUR COLLECTION 8U'1 JtW 'rlaDt90Ul COu.talON,.

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NYC COMMUNITY STRIPS-SHAPED LIKE RED AND WHITES Air Scout - NYC/Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx, Manhattan Sea Scout - Blue wool/white letters - NYC/Queens, NYC/Staten Island Red and White - Homemade - Staten Island, NY (one line across) Red and White - 1/2 strip - says the Bronx (may not exist) TMR Ten Mile River Pre 1960 Camp Staff Neckerchiefs Ten Mile River felt border patches

I will pay amazing prices for my needs. I have excellent OA and CSP dupes. I will pay in four figures for some of my needs and many in three figures as well. I also pay very high fees for information leading to my acquiring my needs.

Heart 0' Texas Trader John Conley Williams PO Box 23374 Waco, TX 76702-3374 (254) 772-1106

Monthly Catalogue Of Scout Patches lAnd Memorabilia New Stuff Every Month Fast Service IAlways Home (3 Little moys) Full Time Pros

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Ma-Ta-Kam Lodge 195R1 Sold by Streamwood for more than $11,000

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Streamwood, Inc. Gold Plate, Solid Bronze, and Silver Plate 3" T. H. Foley First Class Pins Gold Plate and Silver Plate 2" First Class T. H. Foley Pins These 5 Pins were recently purchased by Streamwood.

Value $10,000+

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OA Lodge 1 Unami Tribe patch and 1935 membership pocket card. Sold recently by Streamwood for more than $6800