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TurningPoint: Your Lifestyle, Your Well-Being - Celebrating the Spirit of Excellence

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This picture was given to Esther Austin Global, by William Mickey Stevenson exclusively. It's a picture taken at Motown's 60th celebration in February 2019. In the picture we see: Valerie Simpson, Eddie Holland, Smokey Robinson, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland and William 'Mickey' Stevenson. Six of the Greatest Writers from Motown in the world April 2019


Esther Austin Editor in Chief

Photo Credit: Karlton Chambers


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elcome, Welcome, Welcome

I felt the need to present a ‘tripple’ Welcome to you because I have been so tremendously inspired working on this issue of the magazine. Each magazine has granted me a greater insight not only into myself, but through the eyes of others and their humanity. The interviews, conversations and contributions shared in here have certainly opened up so much in me and I hope it will do the same to you, our readers. I decided to theme this magazine: Celebrating the Spirit of Excellence. This came about because during many of my interviews there was always a thread of being excellent, being prepared and aiming to be the best. This therefore got me wondering what drove this spirit of excellence in people, how did this affect, influence or even inflict and pressurise individuals. For many artists, their parents instilled the message of excellence into them as a child, mostly because of their circumstances, and where they came from and what they had and were going through. That message to be the best, to expect the best was driven from a desire for their children to have a better life, for them to strive to have a different experience, for them to KNOW that they were SOMEBODY in a society that most times than not was saying YOU ARE NOTHING, YOUR LIFE DOES NOT MATTER. Many of these artists were from impoverished environments, they faced segregation, racism, simply because of the colour of their skin which means they were already at a disadvantage. However, realising and discovering they had a talent and wanting to share that with the world, to boast about it, to deliver it, to enjoy it was another reason to stand in the face of adversity to say ‘I am Somebody, and I will become the best in order to pursue my dreams.’ This was a group of people who honoured their craft and talent and who grafted hard to be and become the best. So therefore, we now have the privilege of standing on the shoulders of some incredibly instrumental individuals who paved

the way, in more ways than one, for us all and as you read through the following pages, you will see how pivotal and solid Motown was for artists to hone their craft. It was a place that protected those who came through the door and a place that embraced them as a family and that was where their strength lay. Therefore, to this end, this magazine’s issue will be celebrating 60 years of Motown which actually was celebrated in January 2019. In here you will read of the experiences of many of these stalwart artists. TurningPoint Magazine arranged a Motown Photoshoot in LA on 3rd and 4th April and everyone who attended had an absolutely fabulous time. Randi Childs, Street and Studio Photographer from New York kindly popped to LA to conduct the photoshoot. Randi has become a real treasure at TurningPoint Magazine and you will see her stunning work throughout the following pages. A big thank you also goes out to Maria Silva, MUA who styled hair at the photoshoot along-with Hunter Zieske Randi’s Technical Assistant. A huge thanks to them both for being so incredibly supportive to make the photoshoot the success it was. So, keeping my piece short, I just want to encourage you to always look to be the best that you can be for yourself. That may simply be that you learn to put you first, that you learn to get to know who you are, that you nurture yourself and have more fun. The Spirit of excellence means different things to different people, however at the end of the day, I personally feel, it’s about honouring who we are as individuals and knowing that we all deserve the best and in that vein, we will experience that spirit of excellence which is about honouring and aiming for the best. I would like to say a big thank you to everyone who took part in the photoshoot, to everyone who contributed and to everyone who allowed themselves to be interviewed. As always I give thanks to The Universe, to my ancestors, to my children and my partner for what they bring to my life.

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EXCLUSIVES Martha Reeves is Still Dancing in the Streets and Loving It Woody Wilson, America’s top Bespoke Fashion Designer Once Dared to Dream William ‘Mickey’ Stevenson, Motown’s First A & R Man Tells it All

TRUE LIFE STORIES Veronique Back to the Essence of Nature: Jewellery that Speaks to the Soul Kwamme McPherson Pays a Caribbean Homage to the Music of Motown Daphne Maxwell Reid - Driving Excellence through Creativity and Passion

Priestess Eurekah Gives Spiritual Insight into The Spirit of At-tom Helen Rogers, Renowned UK Singer/ Songwriter on – The Love Remains


HEALTH AND WELL-BEING Dr Miriam Stoppard – Getting Comfortable in our Skin as we Get Older SistahintheRaw – Plant New Health Seeds In Spring

A MATTER OF TRUTH David Mills ‘Dear Kids: You Didn’t’ Come Here to Pay the Bills’ Amira Whitaker – It’s Not Personal, It’s Business ENTERTAINMENT Janie Bradford, Recently named ‘Queen of Motown’ talks…well… Motown FINE DINING L’Escargot Review by Tony Jazz ART, ACCEPTANCE, DIVERSITY, CREATIVITY Randi Childs, Street Photographer Captures Motown for TurningPoint Magazine PERSPECTIVE Rebecca Weef Smith cracks open the Myth of Aiming for Brilliance HUMOUR Esther Austin

John Wilson - Sly, Slick and Wicked talks Rhythm & Blues and Motown Actor Kirk Taylor’s Words of Wisdom: A Man on a Mission The Former Supremes - Unconditional Love, Motown & Living a Life of Dreams and Fun Lloyd G Williams – Still ‘Shout..ing’ but now to his own Music Cornelius Grant - Known as The 6th Temp: Keeps the Voices of Legends Alive Mary Wilson on Finding Herself, Enjoying Life and Still Superbly Supreme

REVIEWS FRONT COVER PHOTO CREDITS: Woody Wilson and William ‘Mickey’ Stevenson by Randi Childs Photography. Martha Reeves by Jenny Risher. DISCLAIMER All rights reserved. The views expressed in this publication are not necessarily those of the publisher. The publisher cannot accept responsibility for any errors or omissions relating to advertising or editorial. The publisher reserves the right to change or amend any competitions or prizes offered. No part of this publication may be reproduced without prior written consent from the publishers. No responsibility is taken for unsolicited materials or the return of these materials whilst in transit. TurningPoint Magazine is owned and published by Esther Austin Global Publishing. The opinion expressed in each article is the opinion of its author and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of TurningPoint Magazine Inc. Therefore, TurningPoint Magazine. carries no responsibility for the opinion expressed thereon.


PHOTO CREDITS: RANDI CHILDS PHOTOGRAPHY

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t was an absolute privilege to be able to secure an interview with William ‘Mickey’ Stevenson who I met when I was in LA in February 2019. I had just interviewed Lloyd G Williams and Lawrence ‘Pops’ Dopson and they were taking me to lunch. We were standing in line waiting to be served and in walked this rather distinguished, easy going energy. Lloyd and Pops instantly got up with big grins on their faces. There was a lot of hand shaking, and the patting on backs then William asked if he join us for lunch and for the next few hours I sat listening to the history of music and Motown with lots of name dropping of all the major artists produced by Motown. There was a lot of laughter and reminiscing.I felt honoured to be in the midst of something, I personallyconsider historical and legendary. I realised that I was capturing conversation from a very influential time in his..tory. So without further ado, I asked my obligatory ‘shell’ question - who is William Mickey Stevenson in a nutshell, a coconutshell or maybe a peanutshell and the conversation flowed from there.

[Laughter] William: I was the A and R Director of Motown Records. I ran the whole music division of Motown for about 10 years; the original Motown i.e Stevie Wonder, Four Tops, Vandellas, Supremes, Mavin Gaye, Funk BrothersI could go on. My point of view of who I am as a person is because of that Man upstairs. God chose me to do a task. He made the choice. I was doing it without the knowledge of what I was doing and I was doing it because of the gift given to me. When I found out later in life that it was from God and what thatgift was all about, I used it alot better, but it was going to be used whether I liked it or not. So in essence, I am a man of God, for the purpose that I must execute constantly until He tells me to stop. Esther: What is that purpose? What is that gift? William: That gift is to find the best part of the gifts given to others and try and pull that out so they can recognize what they’ve got in order to succeed in life. As they succeed and do what they’re given to do, they can then help others, and it keeps on going. Esther: That’s beautiful because in the spirit of that delivery and purpose, can you share about some of the artists you’ve worked with.For instance, the Funk Brothers, Smokey Robinson etc what was it in them that you

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clearly recognized was their gift? William: Well, not to take the credit for anything, but in the beginning, I didn’t know that I had the gift for this. I thought I was just finding moments or something in someone where I could say something about them or help to develop. I didn’t know that it was purposely put into my being. Then I noticed that in the process of dealing with different artists I got more sensitive and I got better results, and that separated some from others. In that process, it let me know that I had something special where I could pick these people and help them develop what they were doing. That’s when the spiritual side connected with the human side in me as a human being. I started looking for that feeling, for that inspiration from upstairs. So the choices I made were on purpose because of the people I met like The Four Tops, The Funk Brothers; individually, each person I had a connection with was because they were put in my path to connect with. So, what I learned was,you didn’t just walk into my office or I didn’t just see you on the street or hear you play. It was a purpose for me to go there to hear you, to connect and work with you.In my opinion, we are all here for a reason, we all have gifts and more than one. Now, it’s the people that God send to you or who you run into that will

help you develop the gifts that you have, that makes it all come together. Also, we have the negative side, where people will try to pull you down from recognizing you have something to offer. That’s a real battle for human beings and thank God we’ve got to be alert to recognize the ones that mean something and ignore the ones that don’t mean something to us. That could be family, friends, whoever, don’t leave anybody out of it, because the devil is a very smooth guy, he’s been around here a long time. Esther: I believe that what we see as the negatives are often experiences that keep us on our feet, to keep us looking into our mirror of truth. It also empowers us later down to recognize when that energy is coming again. William: What you just said is what I call wisdom. You’re acquiring wisdom and knowledge, and you get that from the past. Most people take it the wrong way. It’s not that something bad happens to you but more to the point, something was put in your path so you could acquire wisdom and knowledge. If you ignore that, you’re not getting the lesson. Life’s wisdom and knowledge comes from people and things around you as you walk through life; that’s the school. Sometimes it hurts, other times it’s a wonderful experience. Don’t waste your time on people Spring 2019 | 21


Helen Rogers

, RENOWNED UK SINGER/SONGWRITER ON THE LOVE REMAINS

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elen is a British Singer/Songwriter. She has performed with the likes of Brit Funk band Direct Dave, funk band 7th Heaven, Co-wrote and sang lead and backing vocals on Paul Hardcastle’s project The Jazzmasters, Recorded an album of reggae covers of 1970s pop hits with Black Steel and more. Here Helen shares a very poignant take on loosing her father and the emotional journey she went on, reminding herself at the end of the tunnel that truly on the love remains.

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Like Jamaican Reggae band The Heptones, I feel immersed in a Sea of Love and music when I think about my childhood. I was fortunate enough to have been a cherished only child and also lucky that listening to music was a big part of our family life! My Mum had a beautiful, rich singing voice and would lullaby me to sleep whilst Dad (aka Pops), although not a singer, really loved music. My parents met after both running away to join the army. As WW2 children

their education had been cut short and career opportunities were thin on the ground. Although she didn’t take them up on it, Mum had an offer to join a professional Jazz band in the army but despite Pops encouraging her on she didn’t have the confidence. Pops himself got the chance to write in the army becoming a Sports Correspondent for the forces radio, also a boxer and PT Instructor amongst other things.

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There were also moments of sheer exhaustion where, feeling overwhelmed with responsibility I fretted that I may have made a wrong decision or times when I felt like a total failure after sleepless nights and Dad’s delirium had left me a crying wreck instead of the ‘’strong’’ person who ‘’should’’ be giving support not needing it. Oh how sad it is to watch our parents decline into old age, frailty and finally to experience their death. Don’t get me wrong, in the Roulette game of life, those of us who make it that far are on a winning streak. We lost Mum in 2001 after a five year fight with cancer. They had been married for nearly 50 years and Dad felt as though he had lost part of himself, suddenly rudderless in the Sea of Life. Despite some manageable health skirmishes, however, the next 15 years became very precious to my Dad as he was able to see his cherished Grandson Ashley grow into a wonderful young man and to utilise his talents in the field of Film Journalism. I’m sure any reader can imagine how proud he was to see the kid he had taught to play football and cricket suddenly before him on TV as guest host on BBC’S Film Show! At the beginning of 2017 at the age of 88 Dad was diagnosed with heart failure. I was waiting for the usual hopeful narrative we’d had from

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medics that they would treat the problem and he would be carrying on with life, but not this time. Pops was increasingly frail and losing the reserves that one needs in order to successfully bounce back from illness. His body was reacting adversely to the medications he needed. Fear and anger gripped me physically. Fear for Dad, myself and all the family and existential anger directed at God, or whomever had created this joke of a thing called life - a game that we can only lose in the end. However, there can be no Sea of Love without turbulence and when it comes, our job is to dig deep into our resources of courage, practicality (a hard one for me) , compassion and stamina. Like becoming a parent, caring for our parents does not come with a ‘’How To’’ manual. Our God given creativity comes into play as we do our best to shape a world that our loved one can best transition from. As his main carer, there were

moments of such raw tenderness that took my breath away. We made a micro environment for him in his living room where we would listen to his favourite music together. I would stroke his hair and cuddle him and just experience the intensity of the emotions I felt for this man who was my rock, my comforter, my adversary, my friend, my Dad. We were back again in the Sea of Love. This room was his safe place and I seemed to see it through his eyes the colours seemed brighter and it felt warmer in here. There were also moments of sheer exhaustion where, feeling overwhelmed with responsibility I fretted that I may have made a wrong decision or times when I felt like a total failure after sleepless nights and Dad’s delirium had left me a crying wreck instead of the ‘’strong’’ person who ‘’should’’ be giving support not needing it. I’m so blessed to have a rock of a husband and a family who, although they are not living with me gave me the feeling that they were there 24/7 by phone, skype or any Spring 2019 | 35


and knew that she was capable, beautiful and that she had all of the elements that were known to the Supremes i.egrace and elegance and just so gracious a person. At the time, a word came down from the top, even though we had licensed the name ‘The Supremes’and were going to go ahead with Joyce, they discontinued The Supremes and we went ahead and did the Partners album but 40 years later almost to the day, Scherrie called me and asked me if I would be in with herself and Joyce to be the Former Ladies and how that happened it was just fate and destiny. And we know this is true because we have such a great time together.

SUSAYE: We are excited about our new music and it’s quite something to have gone through all of these decades, first of all to still have our mental capacity and faculties and the love for music. Then our passion for travelling and being able to get out to see the people. It’s so wonderful. But Unconditional Love was a thought that was presented to me by my friend Jeffrey Chin. He’s a tremendous keyboard player and arranger in San Francisco and does a lot of film work and he’s a tremendous musician. So he came to me with a track and all he had was ‘Unconditional Love’ in his mind

and I thought WOW that’s a great one because so many people can relate to that. I wrote the melody. When a song comes to you and blows out just like that, there’s nothing like it, it makes it infectious and we were amazed by the reaction of our audience. JOYCE: It was amazing. We worked at the Catalina Jazz Club and I was in shock. You would’ve thought we’d been singing that song for 100 years because the audience were so thrilled. SCHERRIE: I’d like to say a big shout out to Steve Weaver in the UK who does recordings for us and

JOYCE: And we sound good together. Esther: Yes you do ladies. So now, I’d like to talk about where you are now? You’ve got a new single out called ‘Unconditional Love’ and you’re going to be on tour soon. What I find really fabulous is that many artists are still performing and still passionate about what they do. So Scherrie, tell me a bit more about your upcoming tour, then Susaye I want to ask you about the Unconditional Love album and then Joyce I want to ask you about your passion. SCHERRIE: We’re touring Germanyin May, June in Belgium and we have some dates in California and Texas in July, August in California and Detroit and the UK in September and October in Detroit. So it’s coming in by the Grace of God, people still love the music and of course we have to acknowledge and give honor to the great history of Motown. However, we also have new material which was written by Ms Susaye Greeneand we’re compiling other songs for our CD.

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Eric Iversen our right-hand man, here in the US. SUSAYE: And to everybody, we love that everyone still keeps coming out to see us. We love you so much. Esther: What would you say is the groups biggest achievement as a female group? SCHERRIE: You can fulfil your dreams. You don’t need to show your panties or behind you can do it with class. The Supremes meant and still mean so much to young girls. They can look at The Supremes and say, maybe oneday I can do that, I can get up on that stage and for them to recognise that they can be graceful and beautiful. We hope

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we’ve been an inspiration for all young women, especially black women.

from outside our world and we are full of pride and gratitude.

SUSAYE: We are passionate about what we do. Especially women because it’s an amazing thing to be alive with the advancement of technology and innovation which have reached such a point. However, The Supremes have always represented a class and empowerment for women and we want that to continue. I think that’s the greatest achievement,bringing that music to the hearts and minds of people around the Universe. I say the Universe because we now have the ability to go to other planets and have viewing

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continuing to push forward. To be shot at, to have people look at you and treat you as you were inferior. What was it that kept you strong in “This is who I am, this is what I want to do and this is what I'm going to become?� CORNELIUS:. A lot of it was because of the spirituality from my upbringing at home. I was raised by my grandmother who was a very spiritual lady and even though she had to work for white people in order to survive she never taught us hatred or bigotry. So I carried that all through adulthood. It's like "Hey! Treat people as a person, for who they are and not for what colour they are." Esther: Are you still proactive in the entertainment industry? CORNELIUS: Yes. We're embarking on a TV project. That's basically what the focus is now. But, other than that, The Temptations' legacy is even stronger than ever now because there's a play, Ain't Too Proud and it's breaking records all over the world. It's on Broadway and it's already booked to be on Broadway until the end of November. It stars a lot of laughter and The Temptations' history. I'm just glad that two of my songs are being performed in the play.

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MARY WILSON ON FINDING HERSELF, ENJOYING LIFE

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Esther: So my first question to you, Mary, is who is Mary in a nutshell, in a crab shell or maybe a coconut shell? MARY WILSON: Mary Wilson is [Laughter]. That’s pretty much who I AM, what identifies me is my Laugh. I’m a grand-mom of 75 years old. I am a mom of three biological Children and one adopted Child. So I’m really into being a parent and a mom. Mary Wilson, in a nutshell, probably would be one of those people who really loves life. I’ve accomplished pretty much everything. People think it’s easy because I laugh all the time through everything, but it’s not easy. I have a way of looking at life in a very happy way. That’s kind of who Mary is. Regardless of what goes on, I can be unhappy about the situation, but it doesn’t change me from being a happy person at the core. Esther: Fantastic. Fantastic. Love that. Now we all pretty much know the story of the original Supremes and their journey and in this interview I’d like to touch on your tenure at Motown. What did Motown do for you as a person, Mary? How did Motown influence you or change you? MARY WILSON: Motown, perhaps for The Supremes and, of course, for Mary Wilson, I think it helped us make our dreams come true. We went to Motown with dreams. Motown didn’t give us the dream. We went to Motown with the dream. We actually made them accept us because we were three little black girls from Detroit, Michigan who just dared to dream and we looked around to find the right place to go. Motown gave us a place to make our dreams come true.

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Esther: And what were the attributes you felt you brought to Motown that got you through the door and made you so successful. You said you made Motown take you, but what were the attributes that you went with other than your dreams? MARY WILSON: When we went to Motown, there were four of us. We were The Primettes. When we walked in there, I can’t answer for them, but I can probably surmise that when they saw us and when they saw our dreams, they saw the possibility of what they too were dreaming of. That’s why I say we were not made by Motown, however they were smart enough to see that we were three or four girls who really knew what they wanted. As you know, my third book is coming out, it’s called Supreme Glamour. This is also what I think they saw. They saw a certain sort of, I won’t say glamour, because at 16 we weren’t glamorous, but we were definitely cute. But I think they saw that we were not your normal rock n rollers. There was something a little different about The Supremes and throughout the years, almost 60 years, I think this has really shown that the music was very important for The Supremes, but it was also our style and class and I think Motown got that when we walked through the door. They saw that in us. Esther: This goes onto this whole thing of excellence, because I’ve interviewed quite a few artists who were part of the Motown movement and there was this bar of excellence which Motown bred because it seems that each artist came with the view and the dream of excellence.

MARY WILSON: I feel to the core that is what it was. There were other artists who may not have been as classy and as stylish as us, but they also still had something else that was very unique in their own style. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, which is the way I look at it. So, even though some of the groups were more rock and rollish, maybe more than The Supremes, they still had something very unique in their style. Esther: Mary, to have been in the music industry for so long, how did you and do you keep the passion and fire of Motown in you, especially when you performed? Where did that come from? You still have it, because I’ve watched you so many times, I’m like, “This woman is absolutely gorgeous.” You have this smile and it comes from the soul and they say the eyes are the windows to the soul. No matter what you’re doing, you’ve just got this. Bam! This fire in you. So where do you feel that passion and fire comes from? MARY WILSON: IIt’s not so much Motown. I know this is about Motown, but as I said, each artist came there with their own innate desire of sharing their gift with the world in terms of music. I recognized when the three of us started singing together, Diana Ross and Florence Ballard at around the ages of 13 and 14, when I first met them, I just felt so connected to whatever gift God had given me. At the time we’d just started singing because we just enjoyed singing. We didn’t come together wanting to become stars. We didn’t come together because we wanted to make more money.

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FINE DINING L’ESCARGOT REVIEW BY TURNINGPOINT’S VERY OWN MR TOPHAT, TONY JAZZ

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et in the heart of Soho, L’Escargot was established in 1927 and is London’s oldest and most renowned French restaurant. It has become known for its range of stars of stage and screen including Coco Chanel, Maurice Chevalier, John Geilgud, Ralph Richardson, and was reputedly one of Princess Diana’s favourites. L'Escargot is now under the ownership of Brian Clivaz and Laurence Isaacson, who between them have been involved in some of London’s most iconic restaurants and member's clubs. James Tyrrell is now the Head Chef and his dishes celebrate classic French cooking with a touch of vibrancy. Situated on 48 Greek Street it’s in a prime location of the famous London West End for Theatre goers and tourists looking for something more theatrical and spontaneous with their cuisine. L’Escargot delivers on many levels and is a popular retreat for Pre-Theatre deals and packages which is easily accessible on its user friendly website. What makes this restaurant so fascinating is its traditional French cooking and history, so when you visit please take advantage of dishes such as the snails, (Escargot) Lobster Bisque, Salad Nicoise, and Coq au Vin

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The cast each in their own unique way, created another layer to their performances embodying their characters with ease and internal diction. The backdrop and scenes from the blustery storm in Jamaica to the cold, grey days in the UK allowed me to step willingly into their world, feeling and emoting with them, feeling their frustrations, their joy, bewilderment, anger and more. This play seemed to have wings that had flown me unknowingly into another period of time. I became absorbed but I also learned much about that period in time. I loved the way the play captured the joy and frivolity of Jamaica, even though hardship always showed its inevitable face. Life was portrayed of being free and easy only because of the magic of song, music and nature which were imbedded within the soul of the native, within the soul of the slave. Music and song had to become a part of their soul and world as an antidote to their hardships and the legacy of the barbaric history of enslavement and colonialism. Then we were taken to those epic landmark scenes of the Windrush setting sail and docking, a scene always monumental and instrumental because it was a part of a legacy which told the beginning of a new dawn for those who courageously came to ‘The Motherland’ looking for a better way of life, and the harsh realities of that experience as many of their dreams were shattered but more so the disappointment at being brutally rejected and dismissed, for a race who had put their life on the line, who fought for ‘The Motherland’ and the denial of their rights to be acknowledged. Yet the play also denoted that spirit of tenacity, or survival for the Windrush generation. Amidst the ‘No Blacks, No Dogs, No Irish.’ Amidst the hostility and the denigration of their own spirit, their soul, as human beings, their cultural identity, having to put up with inferior living accommodation, in fact having everything about their own human identify come under interrogation and scrutiny and yet as the late Dr Maya Angelou once said ‘I Rise.’ They had to go down in the earth and then rise like the phoenix to build, to hustle and to rise. The play also explored inter-racial relationships and same race relationships which gave an interesting insight into us as human beings on a general level. Scenes of love, lust, loss, frustration, regret, sorrow, joy – all in all this play is a MUST SEE. Intriguing, entertaining, thought-provoking and informative – I certainly would go to see this play again.

Running Time: Approximately 3 hours and 10 minutes including a 20 minute interval Showing at The National Theatre, London until August 2019 https://www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/shows/small-island/dates-listing 100 |Spring 2019

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