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Rueger (on Horv Are You Going to Cut ?) : "The forester needs to collect facts, figures, gron.th rates, then work out cutting plan."

Wagner: "Irnportant to l'rave a desire to be permanent. This is a philosophy o{ setting a program rvhich may not be realized in ciur lifetime."

Merrill: "You need the proper political atmosphere to make management policy possible."

Trobitz: "Have to have faith in proper markets and political climate, but u'e have to l'ork on it in our relations u,ith the public. N{ust anticipate the recluirements, not 'ir.ait until the ltroblern is here. Anticipate the conlnetitir'rn in sellinr'. Take an interest in taxes-don't rvait until the biils are due."

McCollum (on Hon' Set Up Selective Cutting and Tree Farming?): "Should have past experience-on which rve have little basis to decide. Take conditions u'here there are chance (or planned) favorable conditions for conducting a grorvth study. PCI- has 40 one-acre gror,vth plots set aside to find results in grorvth of residual tirnber. We leave at ieast 6 trees per acre in Dciuglas Fir, 2A/o of original volume-SO/o <tI origtnal trees-in Redrvood. Our minimum cut size is 18".

Grundman-first checked rvith N{cCollum ir-r Humboldt county: "Better distribution of tree sizes in Mendocino county-easier to leave resicluals. N{arked leave trees-

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left twice as many as using a 36-inch diameter limit (56/o of trees left)."

Carr (mixed Redwood and Douglas Fir): "Must have cooperation from bottom up:need to educate choppers. If you start by marking an acre, you only have left what the loggers leave-may have to go back and take damaged trees."

Merrill: "Larger use of dozer layouts allows leaving more trees. We mark for leave--and not to cut below certain diameter."

Reed (on contract logging) : "Find that best logging contract is a sale on short term basis with emphasis that if logger doesn't log as agreed, he won't get any more contracts."

Rueger: "Greater mobility of present day logging requires more planning ahead."

Wagner: "Have to regulate cut to growth. Land will only grow so much."

McCollum: "Falling can be improved even though loggers are fine at cooperation. Can still make money on old-growth trees under the diameter limit and many young trees which are above the limit. Area depends upon what timber you have."

Reed: "Sage is making studies of logging on six quarteracre landings east of. Orick where we find that the biggest spread in volume of timber taken is where 20/o of. volume is left standing. Next study will be on three types of cutting, with profit records to be kept."

The show closed, as it opened, with a parade of logging

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