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Police Spy: 'How we stole dead children's identities' Title of Programme: Police Spy: 'How we stole dead children's identities' – Guardian Video Duration: 4 minutes Source: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/video/2013/feb/04/police-spy-howwe-stole-childrens-identities-video Synopsis: Undercover police have used an estimated 80 dead children’s identities. A police operative, who used the alias of Pete Black to spy on political protest groups, explains the process behind how the Special Demonstration Squad used to do this. In the video, his identity is concealed and he is only referred to by his alias, Pete Black, but we now know him to be Peter Francis, as he has revealed his true identity since the video was made. Transcribed by: Jessi Gutch, 07512204384, jessicagutch@hotmail.co.uk Date finished: 12/01/14 Key: PB: Pete Black 00:05

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PB: What you’re basically talking about is a person who has died being resurrected to live to betray people for four to five years of their life. The SDS, since 1968, had facilitated an undercover system whereby you were adopted the persona of a recently deceased child, er, best in literary terms it was described by Frederick Forsyth in his novel The Day of the Jackal and SDS officers deployed actually referred to it as being the jackal run PB: We went along, all of us, er, when we were deployed to St Catherine’s House in London where they kept the register of births, deaths and marriages PB: You actually go to the death binders which are actually great big visual binders that you’d sort of find in an old dusty library, sort of the equivalent of, and you start to go through there, and what you’re looking for is a child who died, and they’re of a certain age, but you actually do it in reverse. You find a death certificate first and then what happens is you then marry it up with a birth certificate PB: You then have to create this legend about the child, now what you do is you find out where the child was born, and what you try to do is you work out if that can be blended into your own background PB: My, er, pretend father was a Royal Marine, er, which if you look at that it may not sort of be suitable for political stuff, but it actually worked out absolutely ideal for me, er, because I had a persona who was very violent on the streets, er, built to be very violent, expected to be very violent, so I actually built into it the fact that my father was a trained Royal Marine and he used to beat me up and so I became an extremely good fighter


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