redefine what Ed Hillary looked like.â You know, they did a great job, and they had a lot of support from the production team that worked on âLord of the Ringsâ and âThe Hobbit.â It was pretty marvelous, that stuff. T I learned a lot about your father and Tenzing watching the film. A lot of the portrayals Iâve seen before really focused on Ed, and him leading everything. I never really understood that Tenzing was such a passionate climber. The film really brings that home. I think thatâs one of the most interesting things. I remember there was a quote your dad said on the soundtrack, âJohn Hunt didnât really want two Kiwis standing on top of the mountain,â and he thought, âI need to look around for a climbing partner.â He had the whole expedition search for a partner and discovered Tenzing was the best to go for it. P I think it says a lot about John Hunt actually. But also, you must bear in mind that the dozen or so British climbers who were there already had their attempts. (Tom) Bourdillon, (Charles) Evans and the others. On these sorts of expeditions, you find about half the people performing OK, but itâs like they canât really get it together physiologically; things arenât working. So, in fact, there may have only been two other real strong contenders. Then people like Alfred Gregory, George Lowe and John Hunt himself put so much effort into the support. So, while they also could have had summit potential, they were exhausted. Itâs not uncommon for people who have climbed Everest
to ask each other, âHow long did it take you to feel youâd regained the spring in your step? A couple of months?â I mean it really knocks you around. You feel like a flat-footed policeman for the first couple of months when you are jogging, and then all of a sudden you go, âIâm rolling up on the balls of my feet, Iâm getting that going again.â Itâs like the energy is drained out of you. It affects you a lot. T That brotherhood of the rope Ed and Tenzing shared, it really seems to have worked out well and brought them together. It seems like they shared a lot past the summit. P Yes, we saw quite a lot of Tenzing, but also his family. For me personally, my involvement with the Tenzing families has been a fantastic thing. I have e-mail or telephone contact with them every couple of weeks; Norbu and Jamling in particular. Jamling and I have guided some clients together and we were on the Everest expedition together in 2002, so we do quite a few business things together. Norbu is the Director of Funding of the American Himalayan Foundation, and Iâm on their board, so we are in touch about that too quite a bit. In fact, Iâm working with him in 10 days time, associated with some fund raising Iâve been doing.
T Does that have anything to do with the accident on Everest in April? P Well, all of us are putting a whole lot of resources into what happened up there. T A real tragedy. P A terrible tragedy. In fact, I donât know what you know about climbing on Everest, but if you look at the history, people have been dying in the icefall; itâs just like that, and the challenge here is if something different doesnât happen, history will just be pushed out into the future. It is a numbers game. Personally, Iâm not against the guiding. I think it is great people are getting out and challenging themselves. But what worries me is the high altitude porters who just go up and down every day, because their vulnerability is immense. T Indeed. Over the years as the commercial interest has become more prevalent on Everest, have you noticed thereâs been any sort of tension building up? Tenzing said, âIâm a climber. Iâm not just a pack mule.â It seems like more of the Sherpas are becoming skilled climbers and guides. P Thatâs true. A lot of them are still just high altitude porters, but they are acquiring skills. People like Conrad Anker and Pete Athens have been running mountaineering schools, which is really good because otherwise youâve got these guys who want to work, who are capable, but they donât know anything. They have to learn, and so itâs great
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