Join Date: Jan 2011 ~BUDO~ Location: NYC! Senior Member Posts: 279 Senior Geek Real Name: Budo What's With All the Invicta Hate?!?
I'm not talking about here, I'm talking about lots of other "places" all over the web. I'm really surprised at all the hate Invicta gets in many watch circles. Do any of these people own any Invictas? Have they even held one or seen one up close? What are they comparing them to? Sure, compared to some much more expensive luxury brands, you might be able to point out some specific deficiencies from a quality perspective, but as far as value for money, Invicta is hard to beat, IMO. I'm amazed at what a polarizing brand Invicta is, it seems like a love or hate thing. Like many of you, I'm proud to be a lover, not a hater! War Invicta!!!!!!! __________________
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Budo , I think a lot of it is price point .You take some of the "old" names in watches and Invicta is cutting into their sales . Its like the meteorite dial with Invicta ,they sale the prodiver at a 1/10th of just what the upcharge is on a rolex for meteorite . I think some believe that a watch should always be in a "classic" mm size . __________________
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I have always been pleased with the quality of each piece. Most hatred are the bandwagon type and have probably not owned one. __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kimber D Budo , I think a lot of it is price point .You take some of the "old" names in watches and Invicta is cutting into their sales . Its like the meteorite dial with Invicta ,they sale the prodiver at a 1/10th of just what the upcharge is on a rolex for meteorite . I think some believe that a watch should always be in a "classic" mm size . I get that, but that seems to be the stance from other watch brands, not other consumers. It's the consumer hate that surprises me. __________________
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Invicta is very successful at what it does but the gripes some people have in the watch community are legit...There will always be 'haters' amongst some brands that are popular...some people hate Rolex for a variety of reasons... I started collecting timepieces with Invicta because of the affordability vs value...so I guess I'm a lover.. Jon
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I hear about the hate stuff here, and honestly I don't go looking for it.
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I dunno. I think if folks are taking the time and energy to hate watches or watch makers, there's something amiss. I for one love my Invictas, love the value, and love what they do to push the industry forward in design.
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I own over 60 Invictas had to send only one in for repair. It was done quickly and professionally. I don't understand the haters either...if you don't like, don't buy 'em...more for me!
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Some of it comes from some of the quality issues. The "Swiss Made", DD movement issues and any other minor issue that comes up everyone is on the case. I buy what I like but I've started to be more selective and I've been looking into more of the higher-end watches.
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Quote: Originally Posted by BigJoe You just have to consider the source and go from there. I hear you, Big Joe, but I've seen it at other forums, watch blogs, all over Facebook. It's a whole bunch of different "sources". I understand that some of it has to do with Invicta being a "TV brand", but even that makes no sense to me. So what, they sell watches on TV, what does that have to do with the quality of the brand? The other side of the coin is that on a recent stop in Tourneau's biggest store here in NYC, I asked one of the saleswomen her opinion of Invicta. She raved about the brand and said they are easily one of the best selling brands in the store. And they sell everything there! They also sell Invictas at easily triple what most of us geeks pay for them. __________________
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Theres definitely a lot of hate out there. Maybe part is fueled by all the different discrepancies that have happened. Shop & eyal saying one thing, come to find out later its something else? Even if it was an honest mistake, some take it as a blatant lie. Like with movements, materials used, only available here etc. Could be a problem with shops sales tactics that put the lemon in their mouth. Maybe they have had bad luck with them. Or have received too many 'used' pieces from the shop. I know I've had my share of bad luck. My first 10 invictas, 6 of them had to go in for warranty within 3 months. Even though I still buy because my budget doesn't allow for much else. And they are still pretty good bang for the buck. Who really knows the main root behind this. But there are haters for just about everything out there. Invicta is more noticed maybe because they have flooded the market? __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by jfinejfk I dunno. I think if folks are taking the time and energy to hate watches or watch makers, there's something amiss. I for one love my Invictas, love the value, and love what they do to push the industry
forward in design. I hear about it here and looked one or two times and found nothing any worse than here..They have a great product and can't be beat on styling. __________________
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I agree there are some haters..people you can never please but on the other hand there are those that are disappointed with the brand...from QC..CS..to being decieved with so called Swiss labeling being made in china...dials that are not what they claimed orginally...the DD issues that have come up...and so on the hits keep coming. Those people feel decieved ..is what you see or hear about on other forums or sites..credibilty issue is huge out there..that is either what you are hearing or reading
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you know its funny but I spend alot of time on facebook and on one of the more popular invicta forums on FB someone made the comment asking what happened to Jim S...and all of a sudden it was ON...they came out of the woodwork...WOW...Jim S. did this and Jim S. did that..OMG...the thread just will not die..it started yesterday morning and its still going today...and the crap continues to fly....it seems like if one person asks a simple question about Jim S.all of a sudden they come on to the thread and the
bashing starts...its like they are all children...its totally crazy....you ask a simple watch question on there and all of a sudden your in the middle of a personal verbal attack...the last few days I have seen it happen over and over again...its always the same thing too...they start out with...I read this on this forum and why doesnt he answer this question or that question.....come on you idiots give it a rest already.... __________________
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To me, it's just because they are miserable sons a b______es with nothing else to do. INVICTA ROCKS THE HOUSE !! .. dollar for dollar as good as it gets. Only Renato and Android have been able to replicate their prowess, but no others.
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We'll Deep Blue is heading there and NFW hits the mark too .. Blue
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I hate invicta..:.:.. ::..:for making badazz watches i can't resist.
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This is my first post on Watch Geeks..And the reason i joined was because of all the negativity that are on a few other forums that i also belong to. To me, if you don't particularly care for or like a product, its better left unsaid. I happen to own 5 Pro Divers..1 Grand Diver ..and a few other makes[Japanese,Russian,and Chinese] Allmy watches run fantastic and i have no problem with discussing them with others. If i have a beef i keep it to myself. I don't feel my opinion will affect to many people. But i will also laud those that have the good fortune of purchasing a watch that they want and like..Hope to be a contributor her and enjoy the comraderie that this Forum exhibits....Jon
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When you are doing things right,as well as better,than the compatition,some people ain't going to like you much.Success brings on nit picking in all forms.Hate can be a mark of success. The better you do,the lowder they yell. daycoo2 View Public Profile Send a private message to daycoo2 Find all posts by daycoo2 Add daycoo2 to Your Contacts #28
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Ya, I don't get it either
I feel like I'm new at this, even thou I been buying and wearing watches for a while now. There are many invictas that I love, and some that are not for me, there are some watch companies that I don't care for there designs, there not for me. I have several different watch brands in my collection, but I have more invictas than any other brand, and IMO they are of good quality, I believe that for a watch $100.00 or less, the invictas are much better quality than any brand I have run into. and for watches in the above $100.00 to $1000.00 range I have been very happy with the invictas I own. I can guess some people hate for one reason or another, and I think it is sad, I may dislike or choose not to buy, but to hate is a strong emotion that requires much energy, someone once told me, " you can't hate, unless somewhere down deep inside you love." think about it. I love my invictas. __________________
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Even haters should kiss Invicta's you know what. Invicta has been a boon for the whole industry. Many people who were introduced to the hobby through Invicta and ShopNBC often buy watches from many different companies, myself included. Boboy View Public Profile Send a private message to Boboy Find all posts by Boboy
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IME, most people who don't care for the brand are both those who've owned Invictas and
those who only know them by (negative) reputation. The hard-core 'h8trz' are another animal altogether but most who don't like the brand are, IME, just tired of the obfuscation and hyperbole used to sell otherwise mundane watches. Many people started with the brand because they were affordable, because many models have a strong wrist presence and because of the marketing efforts around them. Many people continue to both enjoy and even love the brand. From what I've read, many of the same people later left the brand because they felt that they were deceived (i.e. weren't getting "the same quality as the expensive brands for a fraction of the price") and felt that their money was better spent elsewhere. IWG also appears to have moved their new lines to OMGHUEG which puts off a lot of the more traditional WISs. Based on what I've read on several fora, combined with the over-hyped marketing, ongoing 'misteps', very heavy discounting cycles, too many models that just look overdone - like they're trying too hard to be a watch and shouting "HEYLOOKATME I AM A WATCH!!!", many people just don't see Invicta as anything other than a fashion or discount brand. IME, it appears that many collectors are put off by the very idea that the more dedicated fans who basically regurgitate company marketing copy and/or insist their Invicta is either every bit as "high end" as any other quality Swiss piece or, sometimes, that it' s even better. In fact, I've read just that many times over. As is the case with other brand associations, what we like and don't like has as much to do with how we see ourselves, as much as how we see others. As almost always, we get what we pay for. YMMV, etc. bluloo View Public Profile Send a private message to bluloo Find all posts by bluloo Add bluloo to Your Contacts #32 Today, 03:38 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,400 Real Name: Garrett
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On the other www forums I frequent, A good percentage of it stems from poor quality and bad CS experiences. __________________ My watch, knife and flashlight reviews kramer5150 View Public Profile Send a private message to kramer5150 Find all posts by kramer5150 Add kramer5150 to Your Contacts #33 Today, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EAS
I agree there are some haters..people you can never please but on the other hand there are those that are disappointed with the brand...from QC..CS..to being decieved with so called Swiss labeling being made in china...dials that are not what they claimed orginally...the DD issues that have come up...and so on the hits keep coming. Those people feel decieved ..is what you see or hear about on other forums or sites..credibilty issue is huge out there..that is either what you are hearing or reading That is it in a nut shell, it's not going on for no reason. Some people have also had QC issues and found out that to send it in under the warranty, often costs as much as a new watch. I think there are some valid points out there. I know I have had issues with CS in the past and am very hesitant to want to put myself in the position of having to deal with them again. I can understand the frustration some feel. trip_67 View Public Profile Send a private message to trip_67 Find all posts by trip_67 Add trip_67 to Your Contacts #34 Today, 04:06 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Born and raised in NJ.Currently in NOLA Posts: 2,291
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Well this is just an unfortunate part of the watch collecting world...Also, WatchGeeks it's self is the target for haters as well..I don't let it bother me any more..It's all just so ridiculous and an incredible waste of energy... __________________ "Your JamBox is now his, by way of our actions.." ATHF Mooninites AZinNJ View Public Profile Send a private message to AZinNJ Send email to AZinNJ Find all posts by AZinNJ Add AZinNJ to Your Contacts #35 Today, 04:11 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,505
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I dunno, maybe it DOES need even more discussion. __________________ Keep your crowns screwed down, my friends.
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I will always be loyal to Invicta, it was Eyal's timepieces that started my collections. IMHO, you can not touch Invicta on price point! __________________ THE END IS NEAR :0)
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