Time to shake the Speedway tree again

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rmacwhade Member Member Geek Time to shake the Speedway tree again

it has been well over a week since we were told we would get a ststement from invicta so far not a word i would like to know your opinion on what this has done to your trust and respect for invicta i personally will find it almost impossible to believe anything they say about there products the fact that they say nothing is just about addmitting guilt and to make no responce to over 23.thousand geeks shows no respect for there customers would like to hear your thoughts rich

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wave3214 Senior Member True WatchGeek

A wait and see attitude is what Im taking. Id still buy one of those Speedways right now if I wasnt afraid the CEO (wifey) would kill me (lol) A year from now they will all be tucked into collections and those who got them will be real glad that they did,,,my 2 cents __________________

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Give it some time, Rich.

There are plenty of other threads on this issue. No need to open another one.

Patience is a virtue, and a watched pot never boils. __________________

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Originally Posted by SeaVulture Give it some time, Rich.

There are plenty of other threads on this issue. No need to open another one.

Patience is a virtue, and a watched pot never boils.

Amen William. No more needed at this time... __________________ Bullwinkle: "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!" gman66 View Public Profile Send a private message to gman66 Find all posts by gman66 Add gman66 to Your Contacts #5 Yesterday, 07:32 AM

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I'll give this thread no more than 2 dozen posts before this pony has had enough whipping and is locked down like the others.

Lets just give it a rest and when it is time the answers will come and until then just let th the silence speak for itself.

Last edited by X-James; Yesterday at 10:39 AM.. Reason: I upped my guess ... should I make it 3 dozen?

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new2watches Senior Member Senior Geek

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Originally Posted by X-James I'll give this thread no more than a dozen posts before this pony has had enough whipping and is locked down like the others.

Lets just give it a rest and when it is time the answers will come and until then just let the silence speak for itself.

While I agree with what you posted, in all regards, I also believe that there is the possibility of this issue slowly falling by the wayside. If enough time goes by we will forget about it, the details will have been lost and it won't be remembered until the next issue pops up, but at that time that will be the crisis/mix up/supplier problem/wrong part etc. that is being dealt with and this will be pushed to the side.

Discussions and questions are not always about "beating a dead horse", sometimes they are, this time I just think geeks would like a response. The DD issues are well over a month old, at first there was no problem, the problems that were occurring were not out of the norm, we were only hearing about them because we geeks "talk" to each other and have the benefit of being in this forum; to a whole sub-forum being dedicated to the problem and then the module issues coming to light.

Looking at just this particular problem (not any other Invicta problems) from the start to where it has evolved to warrants us members keeping a civil discussion going.

But then again, what do I know? new2watches View Public Profile Send a private message to new2watches Find all posts by new2watches Add new2watches to Your Contacts #7 Yesterday, 07:52 AM

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It will be over when there is a response and people will decide then.Its never a dead horse if the horse is still alive and kicking! __________________

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watchluv Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by SeaVulture Give it some time, Rich.

There are plenty of other threads on this issue. No need to open another one.

Patience is a virtue, and a watched pot never boils.

There are no other threads. All the threads are locked as this one will soon be. I feel there will be no statement and if it is who will believe it???? To take over a week to tell a truthful statement, it shouldn't take that long. __________________ Time to Watch as Time Passes Away watchluv View Public Profile Send a private message to watchluv Find all posts by watchluv Add watchluv to Your Contacts #9 Yesterday, 08:51 AM

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SilverCowboy Junior Member New Geek "Bandwagon" concerning the Speedway

I had to revisit this "Bandwagon" concerning the Speedway DD ... I have had mine over a month since I had it repaired here in the Dallas, Tx area, and it keeps time within 1 to 2 seconds. I still am waiting for "the other shoe to drop", and have some other prob problem develop. I still don't trust the manufacture process, since my watch had a "screw" missing from the movement. I will keep it and if all fails ... it will be a good "paperweight"!

My dear wife of almost "fifty years" gave me a blue Stuhlring Imperial T Tourbillon ourbillon for Fathers Day ... what a wonderful capper to my vast watch collection, ... my "Grail".

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MamboKing Senior Member Senior Geek

wave 3214 is right on. Had to laugh about the CEO comment...

I love my 2 tone DD Speedway, glad I got it - no regrets at all, it's running strong.

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I'm becoming apathetic with the delay. I didn't purchase the DD Speedway, so it's not a big concern. I have; however, had issues with other Invictas purchased in the latter part of 2009 and d in 2010. I would guess that the economy has caused reduced revenue for Invicta, just like other watch companies and retailers in general. In order to improve the bottom line, I suspect that Eyal has looked to reduce the cost of the product, unfortunately unfortunately,, at the cost of quality. My earlier Invictas work perfectly, the hands don't fall off, the chronos function, and the bracelets don't come apart. Not to change the subject, but I see lots of Androids in my future unless Invicta rediscovers it's identity.

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this is not a dead (dog) LOL and it will not go away. but it is best to wait and see what happens this week.IMHO zulumack View Public Profile Send a private message to zulumack Find all posts by zulumack Add zulumack to Your Contacts #13 Yesterday, 09:02 AM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 262 Real Name: Barry Anderson

bkacher1063 Senior Member Senior Geek

Didn't Jim post some very detailed options about how to repair or replace the watches? The plan is in place. If you are that concerned about the actual statement, it would appear that your buying decision(s) for the future has already been made. Even if they did screw up, they have instructed folks what to do to take care of the problem. I am going to hang on and see how it all plays out. bkacher1063 View Public Profile Send a private message to bkacher1063 Find all posts by bkacher1063 Add bkacher1063 to Your Contacts #14 Yesterday, 09:03 AM

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bugduck Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by SeaVulture Give it some time, Rich.

There are plenty of other threads on this issue. No need to open another one.

Patience is a virtue, and a watched pot never boils.

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MATT MATTNATTI Senior Member Veteran Geek

I can understand the need for discussion on this topic but WOW do we really need to try to make the same point over ver and over again? We are taking up valuable band width. IT'S LIKE JIM SAID WE GET THE STATEMENT WHEN THE STATEMENT IS GIVEN. Nothing is going to change with a quicker response. The people who bought the watch that dont have problems will be happy and the watches that are broken will be repaired. Invicta is a huge company and i would bet EYAL has 1 or 2 more pressing matter to deal with. __________________ Did you see that? Do they all got hedges like that? Do they?

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Patience is a virtue! __________________

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It hasn't affected my buying Invictas one bit. Like all else in this world, all will be known in God's good time... thescarletpimpernel View Public Profile Send a private message to thescarletpimpernel Send email to thescarletpimpernel Find all posts by thescarletpimpernel Add thescarletpimpernel to Your Contacts #18 Yesterday, 09:56 AM

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Keep the faith. We were told there would be a joint statement in the near future. Please try and hang on until we get some sort of answer. I'm sure that after the statement is made there will be plenty of discussion about that also. Let it go for now. It will come eventually. __________________ So many watches, so little time (and money). watchnut62 View Public Profile Send a private message to watchnut62 Find all posts by watchnut62 Add watchnut62 to Your Contacts #19 Yesterday, 10:09 AM

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Just in case one option they are considering is to simply ignore the whole thing and hope that it fades away ...... it is okay once in awhile to remind them that we are still waiting here and expect the statemet that was promised. __________________ "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" - Jimi Hendrix WatchYaThink View Public Profile Send a private message to WatchYaThink Send email to WatchYaThink Find all posts by WatchYaThink Add WatchYaThink to Your Contacts #21 Yesterday, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink Just in case one option they are considering is to simply ignore the whole thing and hope that it fades away ...... it is okay once in awhile to remind them that we are still waiting here and expect the statemet that was promised.

You are right but sometimes when those that want to just remind them that they are still waiting for the promised statement can be looked at as if they are some sore of a ranting lunatical type crazed mob of wackos.

Now I aint saying anyone is like that but over time that is how it all could be viewed.

Sometimes silence is the only answer your going to get and you have to come up with your own conclusions from the silence you receive.

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Skinnyman Junior Member Member Geek

Please let this crap go!!!!!!! Movement authentic!!!! Case closed!!!!!!!! Nothing more to be said..... __________________ If You Never Take Time..... How Can You Ever Have Time???

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Spring Lake Bob Senior Member Senior Geek

More than a week ago, an "official statement" was promised "in a few days," but nothing has been forthcoming and, in an informal WatchGeeks Poll, 60% said it never would.

The result of inaction? Suspicion, rumors, conspiracy theories and apologists. All making this seem much more serious than perhaps it is. And the longer it takes, the worse it looks.

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watchluv Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by Spring Lake Bob More than a week ago, an "official statement" was promised "in a few days," but nothing has been forthcoming. The result? Suspicion, rumors, conspiracy theories and apologists.

All making this seem much more serious than perhaps it is. And the longer it takes, the worse it looks.

This is what I said on some other threads. The longer it takes the worst it looks for Invicta.

And then who is going to believe the statement?????? It doesn't take this long to tell the truth. __________________ Time to Watch as Time Passes Away watchluv View Public Profile Send a private message to watchluv Find all posts by watchluv Add watchluv to Your Contacts #25 Yesterday, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by watchluv And then who is going to believe the statement??????

It doesn't take this long to tell the truth.

As far as "it doesn't take this long" .... let me say just one word: lawyers.

As far as believing the statement, I'm not making any pre-judgements about that until we actually see it.

But, everybody is right ... the longer it takes, the worse it looks, and the more the pot boils. __________________ "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" - Jimi Hendrix

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Originally Posted by orlandopilot There's not much that they can say other than "Sorry our watchmakers don't know what they're doing but please keep on buying". "Please disregard bracelets falling apart, hands that fall off, letters that fall off the dial, mold on straps and crowns that fall out".

Agreed. I sure wish I had clients like some of the membership here!

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Originally Posted by RunninOnEmpty Agreed. I sure wish I had clients like some of the membership here!

I'm kind of surprised how forgiving people are after feeling so mislead. Makes me want to go into the watch business. knapplink View Public Profile Send a private message to knapplink Find all posts by knapplink Add knapplink to Your Contacts #29 Yesterday, 01:20 PM Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 202

Spring Lake Bob Senior Member Senior Geek

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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink As far as "it doesn't take this long" .... let me say just one word: lawyers.

I believe you're right. It was, at the very least, implied publicly that 1) the D-D module was to blame for the faulty Speedways and 2) D-D was "working directly (with Invicta) ... to identify and correct the issues." Turns out, neither was apparently true and D-D may feel that its reputation has been damaged (or at the very least may have hurt feelings).

But how the parties "make up" is inconsequential to most of us. What matters to Speedway owners is 1) a clear explanation of where the D-D modules came from; 2) exactly what's wrong with the defective watches; 3) how likely is it that the defect will occur in the future & whether a recall is warranted and 4) whether ShopNBC or Invicta will extend the refund period for those customers who have been waiting for these answers and find them unsatisfactory.

And my guess is that what really matters to everyone -- and why there has been such an outpouring on interest on this topic -- is how forthcoming Invicta will be and whether they'll go "above and beyond" to make this right.

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bwag829 Senior Member Super Geek

Hmm I think my post on this thread was deleted. Or did I not post it? WOW never had that happen. Eyal take a lesson from Daniel and Larry -You do not do this to your loyal customers. All Eyal has to do is post saying why the delay in responding, or that he is not going to respond. bwag829 View Public Profile Send a private message to bwag829 Find all posts by bwag829 Add bwag829 to Your Contacts #31 Yesterday, 03:34 PM

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If Invicta has taught us one thing it is patience, Normal response time 6-8 weeks, being delivered from Switzerland. Again thank you for your patience. __________________

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Originally Posted by bwag829 Hmm I think my post on this thread was deleted. Or did I not post it? WOW never had that happen. Eyal take a lesson from Daniel and Larry -You do not do this to your loyal customers. All Eyal has to do is post saying why the delay in responding, or that he is not going to respond.

Actually you had 2 posts deleted in this thread and the

person who deleted them was - YOU. __________________

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baker.bjs r.bjs Member Member Geek

I've been reading these threads for days and now I'd just like to say this: There is no reason to issue a state statement ment at this point. Members here have made it crystal clear that they have already made up their minds to either support Invicta on the issue or not to support Invicta because of this issue. A statement at this point would only start a new debate on the truth uth and reliability of every word in the statement. I know that many of you will not agree with this assessment either and then again some of you will.....LOL __________________

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Originally Posted by baker.bjs I know that many of you will not agree with this assessment either and then again some of you will.....LOL I agree, it's too late to make a statement.

It would be ripped apart more th than if it was made right away.

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rice22 Senior Member Senior Geek

Any statement Eyal or Invicta make will be rolled up, chewed and spit out so a statement isnt necessary in my opinion. If I purchase a defective watch I return it end of story.... rice22 View Public Profile Send a private message to rice22 Send email to rice22

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All Eyal has to do is state all the facts truthfully, repair the watches, and move on. Once this is done these threads will end. __________________

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Originally Posted by baker.bjs I've been reading these threads for days and now I'd just like to say this: There is no reason to issue a state statement ment at this point. Members here have made it crystal clear that they have already made up their minds to either support Invicta on the issue or not to support Invicta because of this issue. A statement at this point would only start a new debate on the truth uth and reliability of every word in the statement. I know that many of you will not agree with this assessment either and then again some of you will.....LOL

Um Wrong I would love to know whats in my soon to be

repaired watch ..and what I paid for , tha thats ts what the statement will clear up !!!!

MOJO8

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it is important to have eyal make a stst ststement ement but it is more important to have dd say that this is a genuine dd movement when dd itself states sometimes it takes two or three checks to be sure .it is not a fake so who knows if invicta could ever tell rich rmacwhade View Public Profile

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actually you had 2 posts deleted in this thread and the person who deleted them was - you. nick... .... Lol __________________

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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink As far as "it doesn't take this long" .... let me say just one word: lawyers.

As far as believing the statement, I'm not making any pre-judgements about that until we actually see it.

But, everybody is right ... the longer it takes, the worse it looks, and the more the pot boils.

I know it's lawyers. If you have read some of my other post on some of the other closed threads that is what I stated. Now I feel Invicta will not respond and let it pass by. Invicta knows that their loyal customers will take this type of sales pitch (deceit) and defend Invicta as if they were the last watch company on Earth. __________________ Time to Watch as Time Passes Away