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Join Date: Mar 2008 Neil Location: Northern New Jersey Senior Member Posts: 429 Senior Geek Real Name: Neil Say it aint so shopnbc

All US ShopNBC watch fans should read a recent blirb on MSN.com that I saw this morning. The title was 10 Retailers at risk!. You guessed it, one of them was The ValueVision venue which is now ShopNBC. The article went on to say that Shop NBC's 20% holder NBC Universal was selling it's 20% holdings in the company but had recently changed its mind and reversed its decission on June 24th. It sited the companies with the exception of 2007 where it made $23 Million has had a decade decline in it's profits. It said they haven't matched the popularity of HSN and QVC. It also hasen't helped that local cable companies have moved ShopNBC to the higher service tear on some cable systems, meaning if you only contract for basic tier service you could get the Shop on say Channel 67, now on my system they moved it to 133 which is in one of the extra tiers of service which a lot of people don't contract for. Those of us who like to beat up on the Shop CS may not have the opertunity to in the near future. That also means we might not have access to it's great Watch Vendors, inless we visit those questionable web sites. I was shocked to read it, I always thought they were flush. Neil

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Neal, ShopNBC has had an inherent problem with being diverse enough to appeal to a broader audience. In the case of QVC, they hit a sweet spot with the main purchasing influence, yes, the women, by offering a wide variety of cooking, and cooking utensils for the home. ShopNBC has had a difficult time capturing or for that matter making as strong an appeal to the woman consumer. JMHO

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It may also have to do with the merchandise Shop sells and, therefore, the client it is targeting. For example, IMO, QVC, HSN, etc. sell a bunch of five and dime stuff. They don't have jewelry lines other than costume jewelry, they don't sell the lineup of watches that Shop does, and the rest of their stuff just seems cheep to me. Maybe that is just my perception, but whenever I turn any of those other shopping networks on, they have nothing that appeals to me. On the other hand, when I tune into Shop they always seem to have something for the home that is a level of quality and value worthy of giving a look. JMO.


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what about access to SNBC on the computer...that won't be lost...will it?

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I agree those other channels have absolutely nothing that intrests me at all ive treid watching. Itall seems cheap and not anything i would buy,I hope shop doesnt go anywhere.

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Its customer Service QvC and HSN have great Customer Service and the way they sell products are more geared towards Family. They also let the products sell them selves No High pressure I buy something from QvC or Hsn I have it in good condition in a few days I have to fight Shop Nbc to get the product they sold and Hope it is not a return or defective Shop Nbc is not Customer Friendly

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Shop got bumped on my local provider about 6 mos ago.Have to wonder deep down whose decision it was to move them. There is certainly a lot of garbage in the lower channels that could've been moved and not missed.


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I'm surprised anybody actually sits in front of their tv sets waiting to buy things. I could see it before the internet was so prevalent, but now why bother? I have bought from ShopNBC, but only online. I've never sat on hold with the tv on waiting to place an order. I've gotten 2 excellent deals on watches from ShopNBC online, and I've been pleased with their customer service. __________________


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[quote=OmegaMeister;1722926]I'm surprised anybody actually sits in front of their tv sets waiting to buy things. I could see it before the internet was so prevalent, but now why bother?


quote] Very true, and on some items you can watch a video presentation online. __________________

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Hmm..that article seemed like gloom and doom, but if you read the last line in it, it said NBC reversed their position and now seems to want to keep the ShopNBC channel. Keep in mind that's a speculative article. Every one of those businesses are up and running. I think the


article was more a stock and/or investors financial primer than a "hey, these biz are closing" thing.

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Quote: Originally Posted by watchdude1 It may also have to do with the merchandise Shop sells and, therefore, the client it is targeting. For example, IMO, QVC, HSN, etc. sell a bunch of five and dime stuff. They don't have jewelry lines other than costume jewelry, they don't sell the lineup of watches that Shop does, and the rest of their stuff just seems cheep to me. Maybe that is just my perception, but whenever I turn any of those other shopping networks on, they have nothing that appeals to me. On the other hand, when I tune into Shop they always seem to have something for the home that is a level of quality and value worthy of giving a look. JMO.


i agree. QVC and HSN seem to me more of a bargain shoppers haven, almost like a constant infomercial channel. they sell stuff that appeal to the couch potato or housewife that sits and runs up the QVC card. __________________ BigBully

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Comcast still intends to buy NBCUniversal which is the stockholder in SHOP. THis could lead to SHOP being reprogramed into the ordinary cable channels or lessen the burden of fees paid to be carried on Comcast. JMO RONN


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Hopefully they can pull out and make a profit! __________________ Quote by jskelton.."Folks! If you're not on the phone right now,you're not gonna get one! Do what you gotta do!!!!"

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This is an opinion from my wife...and does not involve watches (although I have my own opinions regarding watches). ShopNBC used to be the upscale alternative to QVC. Yeah, I know the economy sucks and all that, but it seems to her that the Shop has attempted to mirror QVC and in the process, she thinks that there is now more for her on QVC. As for me there really isn't another alternative for watches on TV, so I'm still a viewer, but I don't find that much to buy anymore either. It's just our household opinion, but we think ShopNBC tried to get too much like the other channels and lost their identity...afterall, we can only own so many BodyBlades.

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I am not surprised at all with this news.The products can be found online for the most part or at your local stores.I bought a printer from Shop NBC and thought it was a good deal until I saw it on sale at my local Fred Meyer for 20% less.I would never sit and watch any shows other than the watch shows and lately I havent been doing that.Watches seem to be Shops bread and butter but in the past year their prices have been way too high. They cant match the price like other places do and they usually dont have the best deal especially when they gouge you for shipping.Maybe it should be the watch channel. __________________

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I do want Shop to survive, not many places to go for watch shows. But related to why the recent TTV watches may not have sold so well, this is a very bad economy. People are cutting back on things they don't have to have. In addition, with the exception of some electronics I don't find the prices lower or as low as at other places to buy the exact same items. (This includes watches) And finally, the process to return an item broken or somehow damaged by no fault of my own, is much more involved than for many other online retailers, and CS can be very helpful, or much less than very helpful. __________________ You mean what time is it now?

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I too would like to see The Shop make it but the fate they choose shall be their own. I have been driven away to other venders with lower prices, free shipping and no sales tax. I know the Shop can’t fight the sales tax laws but it hurts them. They also are getting rid of the $25 certificates from using the SNBC credit card 7-2010. As much as I like the hosts and the product, the shop keeps pushing me to WOW and other sites with good deals and great customer service. __________________

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I think the SHOP will be fine, they are just gonna have to make some changes, especially CS, which most


people have a problem with. They might also have to re-do Jim's Contract, I mean they can't keep paying him 10 million a year and expect to survive. I can't buy 150 watches every year Jim, so you can buy all your TOYS.....lol

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This place is like a Peyton Place if it's not one thing it's another.I know this isn't a rumor but it could be good for the geeks. I believe they are pulling thier weight and more profit compared to the other shows in the line up except maybe the electronics. I'm speaking from pure ignorance of the shop's books, but if they are the largest watch programing on telev. and I belive I heard the largest with the rest all combined they must be doing something right in that Dept. you would think. We finally get this Invict & DD thing underwraps for the time being we get to doing what we all love to do talk,buy, and trade watches and to hell with other stuff, let the suits earn thier money for once. Leave Jim,Mike,Shaun,etc alone and lets just keep on going and forget about the rest of this shirt and tie twits (not u Shaun ur great ). Shop NBC selling 20% of it's shares they still own 80%, they still have controling interest so hopefully that 80% push the watches and we are all in good shape. Let's just not have a bunch rumors floating around the site with no substance or anything to back it up ( an I'm not talking about this OP ) I heard something about this today on the drive into work an then my phone started ringing. I'm now an Orphan with no place to go, I could store some my watches at thier


house if I needed to, you know what I'm talking about, just busting my brothers. Personally I hope this helps us and the rest of the guys at the Shop all divisions, but ofcourse the watch end, then can really have a ball, and fun. For now lets put our noses to the grind stone and have a ball talking,selling, and trading watches. Sorry for taking up so much of your valuable time.

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Quote: Originally Posted by WristWatchGuy I too would like to see The Shop make it but the fate they choose shall be their own. I have been driven away to other venders with lower prices, free shipping and no sales tax. I know the Shop can’t fight the sales tax laws but it hurts them. They also are getting rid of the $25 certificates from using the SNBC credit card 7-2010. As much as I like the hosts and the product, the shop keeps pushing me to WOW and


other sites with good deals and great customer service. Very true. I buy most of my watches now from other sites for all of the above reasons you mentioned. Quote: Originally Posted by Rog1 Don't worry....top men are making decisions! R Too Funny!!!!...LMAO __________________ Larry

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All I know is that I did my part by buying a boat load of watches from ShopNBC. I have a excel spread sheet that list all my purchases from the Shop and if my wife ever saw the grand total from all my purchases I would be living in the dog house for the rest of my life. So if the Shop goes down it will not be on my account. (and I mean my account) __________________

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In the Harrisburg, PA area, Shop was booted from 4 way up to 283~ __________________ No one can ever have too many watches. TimLovesWatches View Public Profile Send a private message to TimLovesWatches Find all posts by TimLovesWatches Add TimLovesWatches to Your Contacts


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Originally Posted by samsonswatch All I know is that I did my part by buying a boat load of watches from ShopNBC. I have a excel spread sheet that list all my purchases from the Shop and if my wife ever saw the grand total from all my purchases I would be living in the dog house for the rest of my life. So if the Shop goes down it will not be on my account. (and I mean my account) I thought I was the only one with an Excel spreadsheet! Thankfully, mine is password protected!!!! __________________ No one can ever have too many watches. TimLovesWatches View Public Profile Send a private message to TimLovesWatches Find all posts by TimLovesWatches Add TimLovesWatches to Your Contacts #28 06-28-2010, 05:17 PM

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With Shop NBC only being offered for premium channel cable viewers, that limits it's potential customer base. Not a basic channel on cable, alot of people never see it! Cosmo View Public Profile Send a private message to Cosmo Send email to Cosmo Find all posts by Cosmo Add Cosmo to Your Contacts


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Case in point - SANIV black/silver - SW200 - I bought one from Shop at 619. Got a one hour deal from ewatches for 380. Returned the original one back to shop. steves02 View Public Profile Send a private message to steves02 Send email to steves02 Find all posts by steves02 Add steves02 to Your Contacts #30 06-28-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBully i agree. QVC and HSN seem to me more of a bargain shoppers haven, almost like a constant infomercial channel. they sell stuff that appeal to the couch potato or housewife that sits and runs up the QVC card. So we are desk chair potato's sitting at the computer for hours on end right?LOL! What will become of the watch brands that depend on the shop if it crumbles? Will they actually move into the brick and mortar retail business with shops of their own? What will become of value pays? Oh God it's the end of the world! Seriously though some have retail outlets but not many and if they make that move will we be able to afford their watches then? Too serious! Now my small brain hurts. __________________

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I'm making 10 bucks more an hour living in DFW area and still losing ground here, everybody is feeling the sting of this spiraling downward economy and if your not you soon will be. __________________

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I have purchased items from both HSN and SNBC. If I had any problem with anything


purchased at HSN they paid for return shipping and credited me right away. If an item was slitly damaged meaning the box I got a major discount. Ive been shopping with them for 3 yrs never one problem. I purchased a 67 in Samsung tv from SNBC after them sending the wrong one first then the second damaged to finnally the 3rd being ok. Right after I bought it Samsung discontinued it and the PIP was no good anymore due to the change in High deff. I now only only buy watches from them and thats it. I think the watch dept is the only thing that saved SNBC. If you notice Jim keeps saying how he is buying new things even a new car so he must be racking in the big bucks. reserveman View Public Profile Send a private message to reserveman Send email to reserveman Find all posts by reserveman Add reserveman to Your Contacts #33 06-28-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by samsonswatch All I know is that I did my part by buying a boat load of watches from ShopNBC. I have a excel spread sheet that list all my purchases from the Shop and if my wife ever saw the grand total from all my purchases I would be living in the dog house for the rest of my life. So if the Shop goes down it will not be on my account. (and I mean my account) You and me both! I keep a log of all my watches including all the pertinent info but not price. __________________

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Originally Posted by fullautoarmalite I'm making 10 bucks more an hour living in DFW area and still losing ground here, everybody is feeling the sting of this spiraling downward economy and if your not you soon will be. But we are being told we must spend to pull ourselves out of this "spiraling downward economy". Doesn't seem like we are spending enough because we are still spiraling downward. __________________

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Big media business & commerce is a little weird sometimes. With my cable set up... I barely get ShopNBC on my TV. Internet buying may be my next option. I've bought more timepieces in two years than I ever have before. But I can say the WGs, Shop presenters and Watch Reps are all good people. Very glad to be in your company. Dave B (AKA: 'Bippy' who did the two YouTube videos of the Eden Prairie WGGT June 2010). __________________ "Don't sweat the small stuff?!? With watches, it's ALL about tiny, important small stuff." Dave B View Public Profile Send a private message to Dave B Send email to Dave B Visit Dave B's homepage! Find all posts by Dave B Add Dave B to Your Contacts #37


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ShopNBC has been having problems for a while now. Here's an article that appeared a while back. ValueVision cuts 11% more from staff About 60 will leave the owner of Shop NBC, which has laid off more than a fourth of its workforce since mid-2007. By JACKIE CROSBY, Star Tribune Last update: January 7, 2009 - 9:55 PM Caught up in the same sales drop that is dogging the rest of the retail industry, Eden Prairie-based ValueVision Media Inc. said Wednesday it will cut 11 percent of its workforce, or about 60 jobs. The company, which operates struggling online and cable television shopping network ShopNBC, has laid off more than one in four salaried employees since May 2007. In addition to cutting staff, ValueVision said it would suspend its 401(k) match and also freeze salaries and bonuses in the coming year. Most of the layoffs will come from the company's headquarters, but they also include workers at its call center in Brooklyn * Center and warehouse in Bowling Green, Ky., said Chief Financial Officer Frank Elsenbast. Workers across all levels of the organization were affected, including many vice presidents and higher. One of the most notable layoffs involved longtime host Bill Fahey, cohost of a 6 to 9 a.m. weekday program on ShopNBC.


Fahey was one of four hosts whose jobs were eliminated, according to a company spokesman. ValueVision was in a tailspin long before the country fell into recession and consumers quit shopping for anything but daily staples. The company hasn't made a profit since 2001 and has had a revolving door of CEOs in recent years. With shareholders in revolt, the company hired an investment banker in September to consider options to bring it to profitability, including selling the company and finding an equity partner. ValueVision's stock has been trading below a dollar since mid-October, and in September it reported a net loss of nearly $21 million after sales tumbled 32 percent. President Keith Stewart said in a statement Wednesday that the cost-cutting measures were "difficult but necessary." "By reducing our cost structure today, we will be able to focus on our long-term objectives of better serving our loyal customers and achieving profitable growth," he said. ValueVision said it also has renegotiated its cable and satellite distribution agreements of 18 million of its 72 million homes, and is close to cutting deals with the remaining 30 percent of cable operators with contracts up this year. CHRONOKEN View Public Profile Send a private message to CHRONOKEN Find all posts by CHRONOKEN Add CHRONOKEN to Your Contacts #38 06-29-2010, 02:52 PM

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As was pointed out by someone in a response above, and alluded to in the news article above, Shop has actually lost viewing audiences, where QVC has gained. Shop has indeed


been dropped from some basic packages, while QVC remains. I don't know what percentage have basic packages, but having many less channels to choose from, Shop should have a greater chance of being watched in those packages. If money is why the lower package, then value pays should be an incentive. So it is possible Shop has lost a decent percentage of potential buyers. The elderly housing complex provides cable, and only has basic, so every single tenant there no longer gets Shop for instance. __________________ You mean what time is it now? tampa8 View Public Profile Send a private message to tampa8 Find all posts by tampa8 Add tampa8 to Your Contacts #39 06-29-2010, 03:02 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,284 Real Name: Dave

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Shopnbc is like channel 500 something for me, doesn't matter much don't watch them much anymore and if I really want to catch something I just view it on the internet. __________________

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The fate of shopnbc

Just came across this thread... As previously mentioned not to many channels that showcase watches at this price point and variety. If Shop were to go south it will force all the vendors like Invicta and others reacquire another venue for which to sell their products. I for one don't know very many big box retailers that sell the volume or variety of watches as Shop. I hope that Shop succeeds in its endeavors. I hope it's financial status is only a rumor. Jon jwin66 View Public Profile Send a private message to jwin66 Send email to jwin66 Find all posts by jwin66 Add jwin66 to Your Contacts #41 06-30-2010, 03:54 PM Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 118 Real Name: Rafael

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It's ok now you will be able to get your watches for a better price, shopnbc is not the cheapest out there. DIRTY_S30 View Public Profile Send a private message to DIRTY_S30 Send email to DIRTY_S30 Find all posts by DIRTY_S30 Add DIRTY_S30 to Your Contacts


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Yeah, I was shocked when I saw the blirb. I hope Shop hangs around, it's my only watch venue where I can buy good watches at fair prices. I kind of smelled a Rat when ShopNBC started to look like InvictaNBC, they were constantly dragging out their big guns to drag in every penny they could. I just hope all those companies mentioned can manage to hang on through this comming Depression. It will start next year, a lot of buisnesses are going to go under. Hate to be a gloom and doomer, it's not my style, but I am also very realistic and keep my ear to the ground. Hang on to your shorts Geek's!! Neil Neil View Public Profile Send a private message to Neil Find all posts by Neil Add Neil to Your Contacts #43 07-01-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by watchdude1 It may also have to do with the merchandise Shop sells and, therefore, the client it is targeting. For example, IMO, QVC, HSN, etc. sell a bunch of five and dime stuff. They don't have jewelry lines other than costume jewelry, they don't sell the lineup of watches that Shop does, and the rest of their stuff just seems cheep to me. Maybe that is just my perception, but whenever I turn any of those other shopping networks on, they have


nothing that appeals to me. On the other hand, when I tune into Shop they always seem to have something for the home that is a level of quality and value worthy of giving a look. JMO. I agree 100%! They have nothing I am into and ALOT of there stuff does look cheap. __________________ Big Denny In T-Town

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Originally Posted by Cosmo With Shop NBC only being offered for premium channel cable viewers, that limits it's potential customer base. Not a basic channel on cable, alot of people never see it! Its still on basic cable in some areas because its on basic cable here where I live. Ch14. __________________ Big Denny In T-Town


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There will be an alternative if ShopNBC Fails the Brands are very strong and aggressive ...and might collaborate ..... Governor Governor View Public Profile Send a private message to Governor Send email to Governor Find all posts by Governor Add Governor to Your Contacts #49 Yesterday, 09:43 AM

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If shop goes, maybe Jim can get a job with Invicta in their QC department! madman146@gmail.com View Public Profile Send a private message to madman146@gmail.com Send email to madman146@gmail.com Find all posts by madman146@gmail.com Add madman146@gmail.com to Your Contacts #50 Yesterday, 09:54 AM

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Jim and the other hosts could start to advertise and wear like driver jump suits like a race driver wears or go " Me and the wife love baking so we use Crisco" now back to this Russian Diver. I also have my emergency "SAVE SHOPNBC shirts ready". __________________


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If something happens to SNBC Jim can take his shows to another channel. I hope he goes to HSN there CS is way better. Eyal needs Jim and Micheal or hes in trouble reserveman View Public Profile Send a private message to reserveman Send email to reserveman Find all posts by reserveman Add reserveman to Your Contacts #52 Yesterday, 10:36 AM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,006 Real Name: Mark

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Im waiting for Jim to respond on this one...


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I have no use for those other channels they do not sell anything that interests me. Shop always sells high quality merchandise whether that be TV's , DVR's whatever and of course watches. I hope they pull through it would absolutely help if they can get on the basic cable package . __________________


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Originally Posted by watchdude1 It may also have to do with the merchandise Shop sells and, therefore, the client it is targeting. For example, IMO, QVC, HSN, etc. sell a bunch of five and dime stuff. They don't have jewelry lines other than costume jewelry, they don't sell the lineup of watches that Shop does, and the rest of their stuff just seems cheep to me. Maybe that is just my perception, but whenever I turn any of those other shopping networks on, they have nothing that appeals to me. On the other hand, when I tune into Shop they always seem to have something for the home that is a level of quality and value worthy of giving a look. JMO. DEAD ON........My Man! __________________ But you & me, we know we got nothing............but time. And you know................time won't give me time..............


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It's pretty clear ShopNBC is nowhere near QVC in terms of quantity of merchandise moved. QVC sells thousands of items in minutes, whereas Shop's "amount sold" ticker barely creeps up digit by digit. With the exception of some lawn care equipment, ladders, some sports paraphernalia, and the like, QVC all but ignores male customers. And QVC does not sell upscale watches, for the most part. This doesn't seem to have hurt QVC much, since there aren't many men watching the channel. ShopNBC seems to have attempted to hit the more upscale market -- but I think the flaw is that most upscale customers do not watch cable shopping channels. Shop's prices for food items, exercise equipment, and diet products seem very high to me. I would think that the watch sales are basically what are keeping ShopNBC afloat -- well, that and the jewelry. willie99 View Public Profile Send a private message to willie99 Find all posts by willie99 Add willie99 to Your Contacts #57 Yesterday, 03:14 PM

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17% unemployment. Homes are underwater. Uncertain future. Except for some watch geeks disposable income is very tight. I like the shop and wish them prosperity. There is no other place to see so many watch TV


shows. My hunch.. the shop will do fine.

Say it aint so shopnbc - RU really in danger of failing  

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