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Posted 19 January 2008 - 08:46 PM Banned from the community forum at WTF for upsetting the right wing, I posted a Peanuts strip in the General forum. JBHII locks the thread. http://watchtalkforu...nfo/forums/show ... php?t=2357 You have received an infraction at Watch Talk Forums ________________________________________ Dear koimaster, You have received an infraction at Watch Talk Forums. Reason: Posted off topic Charles Shultz post in GF due to CF banning ------Your posting in the General Forum was off topic and also violates your current restriction to ONLY post watch related topics here on WTF. ------This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire. All the best, Watch Talk Forums


Community Forum ________________________________________ Alan, Please discontinue from posting in the Community Forum until further notice. http://watchtalkforu....ead.php?t=1098 __________________ Owner & Administrator Watch Talk Forums http://www.watchtalkforums.info Rolex Reference Page http://www.rolexreferencepage.com Seamaster Reference Page http://www.seamasterreferencepage.com Contributing Writer & Photographer, InSync MAGAZINE My goodbye to WTF............

Goodbye WTF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Although I have enjoyed many of the members here, I am fed up with JBHII and his holy than thou attitude. From comments about the Catholic religion not being a �Christian � religion to his claims of �values� which are better than anyone else�s, it is enough to drive me nuts. Now Charlie Brown and a locked thread is a bit much. You send me PMS about Admins having to exit my posts for language. It was once and the word was HEL*. You whine in PMS and in public about people wanting me banned because they are upset about their right wing sensibilities being tweaked. Guess what? They are adults, let them deal with it. And now you public comment here about this thread,,,,,,,,,, http://watchtalkforu....ead.php?t=2357

"Koimaster, You are quite correct - this is post is completely off topic here in the General Forum. It's a nice, thought provoking post. But it is not appropriate for the General Forum and should not have been posted here. The primary reason your posting rights in the Community Forum were suspended is because you repeatedly violated our rules, and continued to post topics with the intent of irritating others and


creating conflict. WTF is all about connecting with people with similar interests in a respectful, enjoyable way. The purpose isn't to continually rub people the wrong way as you seem to enjoy doing, either directly or indirectly. You were repeatedly and politely reminded of our rules, and asked to make more of an effort to avoid those topics in the CF which you seem unable to discuss without creating irritation and conflict. You continued to disregard those requests, so our only option was to restrict you to watch related discussions (your contributions in this area are valued and appreciated by many, including myself) by banning you from the Community Forum. The BEST way you restore your access to the Community Forum is demonstrate that you've learned your lesson and start respecting the rules here at WTF. Posting off-topic content here in the General Forum because you can't do so in the Community Forum only demonstates that you've not learned this lesson."

This is the lesson I have learned John,

Your rude, self righteous comments on other forums have made you an outsider at many forums. From TZ to WUS you are not welcome. You attacked others at those forums who questioned your reviews or you. I guess the old saying my dad went by, �what is good for the goose is good for the gander� excludes you. Have a nice life John. I am at other forums where free thought is allowed and people do not have to worry if they are not Christians. I certainly hope you can eventually accomplish enough in your life to grow into your ego. Alan, I hope the Christmas season finds you well. I wanted to chat with you again about your posts. 1. Do you think you could stay away from political topics in the community forum? At least refrain from posts which seem to be strongly antagonistic toward conservative values which the majority of this forums members seem to share? I'm getting a lot of complaints again. 2. The admin team is telling me they're having to do a lot of editing of your posts due to your using a lot of non-forum sponsor links and innapropriate language, photos, and video clips. Please use some discretion here. Let me know if you have any questions and let me know if I can help. Your contribution is appreciated here for the most part. Best,


John

I simply don't understand ________________________________________ Alain, I've gone out of my way to extend you every courtesy and friendship. Why are you now talking about me behind my back? Saying all sorts of nasty things? I don't get it. We have a "three strikes and your out" policy here on WTF Alain. Quite honestly, if I had listened to others or had any sort of agenda against you, you would have been banned from WTF long ago as you've repeatedly violated our rules and guideliness on several ocassions. But my heart goes out to you over the loss of your wife. And I have tremendous respect for your military service. And in many regards, you've been a great contributer to WTF. I always enjoy see your WATCH RELATED posts.

Christians (and by the way I've never considered the Catholic faith a Christian religion) aren't perfect Alain. I certainly don't claim to be. We've (both personally and collectively) made huge mistakes and grevious errors in the past. Ever heard of something called The Crusades? Is there any way you can simply go back to enjoying our watch enthusiast community and having our watch community enjoy your posts? Or are you going to continue to badmouth me here and elsewhere, while you continue to push the boundaries of our rules for your personal entertainment? If it's the latter, then by all means, spend all your time at the Purists, TZ, or wherever you wish...just not here on WTF. Fair warning - you won't receive the Christian compassion you've received from me on those other sites. I sincerely hope you can move past the issues you clearly have with me and start being accountable for your own behavior. __________________ Owner & Administrator Watch Talk Forums http://www.watchtalkforums.info Rolex Reference Page http://www.rolexreferencepage.com Seamaster Reference Page http://www.seamasterreferencepage.com Contributing Writer & Photographer, InSync MAGAZINE

Koimaster, You are quite correct - this is post is completely off topic here in the General Forum. It's a nice, thought provoking post. But it is not appropriate for the General Forum and should not have been


posted here. The primary reason your posting rights in the Community Forum were suspended is because you repeatedly violated our rules, and continued to post topics with the intent of irritating others and creating conflict. WTF is all about connecting with people with similar interests in a respectful, enjoyable way. The purpose isn't to continually rub people the wrong way as you seem to enjoy doing, either directly or indirectly. You were repeatedly and politely reminded of our rules, and asked to make more of an effort to avoid those topics in the CF which you seem unable to discuss without creating irritation and conflict. You continued to disregard those requests, so our only option was to restrict you to watch related discussions (your contributions in this area are valued and appreciated by many, including myself) by banning you from the Community Forum. The BEST way you restore your access to the Community Forum is demonstrate that you've learned your lesson and start respecting the rules here at WTF. Posting off-topic content here in the General Forum because you can't do so in the Community Forum only demonstates that you've not learned this lesson. Thead closed.

I wish this guy could just go along to get along....

Quote:Having been warned about political comments, I am going to object to flag waving neocons using a thread about a movie to thrash Hollywood as liberals anon. Everyone in this country has the right to express their opinions. That extends to nazis, Pro- lifers, Pro-choice, Peta and the ASPCA. It makes no difference and to allow this to continue sends the message that if you are a liberal, you get warned. If you are on the other side, it is ok. I make no bones about being a liberal who also happens to be a decorated combat vet. Under normals circumstances I could care less what people say or where they say it in regards to politics but what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

thanks, Alain

Alain, A comment here or there is one thing. But there for a while you had a steady stream of posts in the community forum and elsewhere with a political agenda. And we got complaints. Several. Yours is the only one I've received on this particular thread.


Please know that I have tremendous respect for you, your military record, greatly enjoy your contribution here on watches, and my heart and prayers go out to you for the loss of your wife truly. But you look at this site as some Bill of Rights protected, free speech venue, and it simply isn't. It's more akin to coming over to my house for a social gathering. Following the analogy and using some examples, In my house, you're welcome to agree or disagree with me, but I won't have my house used for causes I strongly disagree with. I wouldn't for example, allow campaign signs for candidates for public office to be put up out in front of my house, I wouldn't allow anyone to tell me I couldn't talk about Christ in my house, and conversely, those continually speak out against Christ will probobly be asked to leave my house. See the difference between free speech public venues and coming over to my house for a social gathering? It's not the same. I'm sorry if you don't agree with that point of view, but I doubt you'd let me put up conservative candidate signs in the yard of your house either.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 06:08 AM


I know nothing about that message forum and am not sufficiently interested to investigate. However, I've always thought that the administrators or moderators or whatever they're called of message boards set the rules. If they have a rule against posting stuff that's irrelevant to the ostensible concern of the board, that's their rule and you either stick to it or you move elsewhere. If you move elsewhere you may wish to take the opportunity to tell them where to shove their rule, but you're better off doing so in such a way that you come off as the cool and polite party. Further, a lot of what's above looks like personal messages intended for you alone, and I have a fairly absolute rule that personal messages (no matter how they may irritate or amuse you) are not to be broadcast, least of all where lots of people can read them. Of course, I may be wrong and perhaps the writer informed the whole world when he informed you. Your offensive message is one that I basically agree with (incidentally, I can't give the name of one single person in response to your first questions 2, 3, and 6; and for that matter haven't a clue what the "Heisman trophy" is). Plus I'm all for upsetting the right wing. However, these seem irrelevances here.   

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 08:01 AM hohoho said:


I know nothing about that message forum and am not sufficiently interested to investigate. However, I've always thought that the administrators or moderators or whatever they're called of message boards set the rules. If they have a rule against posting stuff that's irrelevant to the ostensible concern of the board, that's their rule and you either stick to it or you move elsewhere. If you move elsewhere you may wish to take the opportunity to tell them where to shove their rule, but you're better off doing so in such a way that you come off as the cool and polite party. I did in fact tell them where to go and the post was deleted. So I posted it on the www for all to see. Not here but in several other places and listed the URLs with Google. Further, a lot of what's above looks like personal messages intended for you alone, and I have a fairly absolute rule that personal messages (no matter how they may irritate or amuse you) are not to be broadcast, least of all where lots of people can read them. Of course, I may be wrong and perhaps the writer informed the whole world when he informed you. The minute JBH tried to insult me publicly he lost al rights to gripe. Add to that small fact that I have a hell of a lot more money the he does and am willing to spend it to break him.

Your offensive message is one that I basically agree with (incidentally, I can't give the name of one single person in response to your first questions 2, 3, and 6; and for that matter haven't a clue what the "Heisman trophy" is). Plus I'm all for upsetting the right wing. However, these seem irrelevances here.

Not really. JBH is a bible thumper who IMO thinks he walks just behind Jesus. In his world, he can do anything and he can insult anyone but let it happen to him and watch out? The holy roller has thin skin.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 02:11 PM koimaster said: . . . Add to that small fact that I have a hell of a lot more money the he does and am willing to spend it to break him.

I hope that this is some kind of joke. If not, it's sad. He's somebody who's running a watch forum. Maybe he runs it well, maybe not. Maybe he has repellent right-wing views (if he does, he has lots of company). If you've got a grudge against the right and a pile of money, you might more constructively give some of that pile to left-wing organizations. After all, there's an election coming up, and a planet that shouldn't be warmed so quickly.   

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 05:18 PM I was a moderator at John the Turd's site, specifically the co-moderator of the Oriental section of WTF site. I admit that in most watch/camera/motorcycle/car forums that I frequent, there could be a plethora of internal bickering going on ~ and I'd be oblivious to it. I never bother myself with too much of the inter-personal squabbles that may happen when a bunch of cyber friends congregate - electronically.


However, with WTF, there was a situation that was occuring inside, I only really got involved when I was made a moderator. As most would be aware, moderating opens up sections of the forum that regular members are not able to see. Without going into full details, the gist is as follows: John the Turd was against a member that had fairly bad English, poor grammar etc. but at the same time, this person was really keen on helping the forum by adding new materials and keeping up with greetings to new members. This member needed some "management" but he could, IMHO, be useful and clearly was very friendly to all. John and another moderator (the one of many names) wanted nothing short of banning this member. I spoke out, as I didn't feel this was exacly nice and certainly not Christian. Now, let's be very clear here...I am a Christian, but I don't feel this has any need to be mentioned in a watch forum. My beliefs are my business, and they are part of my character ~ but not worn on my sleeve. So to make a long story short, I taunted John the Turd and his co-conspiritor (the European of many names) and got myself fired. It's really what I sought, as I had no interest in participating and assisting in the forum for the sole benefit of John the Turd. The man has an EGO from here to there, and he doesn't have the maturity to see when his actions are mean or un-Christian ~ especially when he holds others to maintain his stated standards. Hypocrite? me thinks so. I left WTF, and never returned. To do otherwise would be ....what's the word? Hope this helps you understand what John the Turd is like. Don't waste energy trying to fight him, it's too much effort. There's the expression: Never fight with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience. Sums it up? But honey, I've only bought 2 watches so far this year, I'm SO doing better!   

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 09:05 PM You have been banned for the following reason: No reason was specified. Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Actually, I quit the forum, left a goodbye note which he deleted and left the above notice. The man is a coward period. He lacks class and has the ego of the typical right wing Jesus freak.

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