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BigBully Senior Member Master WatchGeek

Off topic but Relevant Why are so many threads being closed by the original poster? if you start a thread, then maybe people should think about the possibilities in which way and where it may go BEFORE starting it ! Starting a post and then asking it to be shut down because it is or may get out of hand, is like poking a bee hive with a stick and then running scared cuz you didn't expect to be attacked by 100 bees... It's like knowingly hitting on the captain of the football team's girlfriend and then running for cover and hiding when he comes looking for you... If you start a thread then let it run it's course. If the moderators feel it's time to shut it down then they will. The Mods do a good job here of keeping peace. as matter of fact there are times when i think things get shut down a little premature or soon but hey, baseball players get thrown out of games too soon also at times so it happens...but asking for a thread to be closed is like being a crybaby... Being responsible does not mean trying to contain or undo something you did wrong...Being responsible means being smart enuf NOT to do it in the first place. __________________

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BigBully View Public Profile Send a private message to BigBully Find all posts by BigBully Add BigBully to Your Contacts #2 Yesterday, 03:03 PM mrblue Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Totally agree Big B ....... walk the walk if your gonna start to talk !!!!!!!! .. Mr Blue mrblue View Public Profile Send a private message to mrblue Find all posts by mrblue Add mrblue to Your Contacts #3 Yesterday, 03:13 PM


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I hit on the captain of the high school football teams girlfriend......but it was last week! __________________

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RLFierro Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Often those threads are started to bring attention to the OP. When it turns out that they are getting a much different than anticipated type of attention they ask to have the thread closed in order to spare themselves the fallout. __________________


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Roger, you kill me. LOL __________________

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Heck, if it wasn't for bad luck I wouldn't have no luck at all. Grblfrtz Grblfrtz View Public Profile Send a private message to Grblfrtz Send email to Grblfrtz Find all posts by Grblfrtz Add Grblfrtz to Your Contacts #6 Yesterday, 05:00 PM Azel88 Senior Member Super Geek

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Why not just ignore it some people are starved for attention they might be so ignored at home by there family they come here to vent out there feelings just a thought maybe I'm wrong............. Azel88 View Public Profile Send a private message to Azel88 Find all posts by Azel88 Add Azel88 to Your Contacts


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Some are more thin skinned than others i guess B.B. __________________

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When are you going to ask the Mods to close this? __________________

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jade330i Senior Member Veteran Geek

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I can tell you this, I've had two threads that I started; one was asking "What do you think a Technical Brand Manager does?" and the other was "If you could tour Invictas headquarters would you and what would you like to see?" Both of those went down hill very fast! People were posting things that not only had NOTHING to do with what I was curious about but were rude just for the sake of being rude. Those weren't questions about someones familiy heritage or how many empty offices had skeletons hanging in them. But it degraded to those type of things in short order. Not to mention the PM's I was sent! So I asked for them to be closed because some a$$clowns on here decided to ruined it with unrelated nonsense! __________________


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Quote: Originally Posted by Franky5Angels I agree sometimes you do not get the response you expected Take the opinion of fellow GEEKS And learn from it I have benefited from their wisdom

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This is a great place to discover how others react to your views I agree with everything your saying but it's hard to do when posters go way off the trail. __________________

More government is not the cure for the defect of less personal responsibility, it's an enabler; if people aren't accountable for their own actions then who is?" jade330i View Public Profile Send a private message to jade330i Send email to jade330i Find all posts by jade330i Add jade330i to Your Contacts #12 Yesterday, 05:50 PM DavidFDiamond Senior Member Senior Geek

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Since I'm not intimidated by anyone here, regardless of the scary usernames and avitars, I'll play devils advocate... A lot of people here complain that hardly anyone makes posts, and just read instead. Then you hear from the newer geeks who are afraid to post, that it's because they don't want to say something the "old pros" think is stupid, and attract the bully's! If they do try and it comes out wrong, without the ability to edit, they will continue to stay on the sidelines IMO. I've seen it happen, and I don't think making people feel stupid, is in the spirit of what WatchGeeks is all about.


Just a thought, I may be wrong...or not! __________________

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timetraveler Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidFDiamond Since I'm not intimidated by anyone here, regardless of the scary usernames and avitars, I'll play devils advocate... A lot of people here complain that hardly anyone makes posts, and just read instead. Then you hear from the newer geeks who are afraid to post, that it's because they don't want


to say something the "old pros" think is stupid, and attract the bully's! If they do try and it comes out wrong, without the ability to edit, they will continue to stay on the sidelines IMO. I've seen it happen, and I don't think making people feel stupid, is in the spirit of what WatchGeeks is all about. Just a thought, I may be wrong...or not! No, Sir. You're not wrong. BTW, I owe you a PM.

As for the Original Post... My assumption is that you're referring to those pot-stirring types who post comments designed for controversy or to elicit emotional responses - and not those who have a sincere concerns or questions that may push a few buttons. If so, I could not agree with you more. __________________

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BB is right on target...So is Rich ! Arifani247 View Public Profile Send a private message to Arifani247 Send email to Arifani247 Find all posts by Arifani247 Add Arifani247 to Your Contacts #15 Yesterday, 06:56 PM

StreetBoss Senior Member Senior Geek

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Fellow Geeks, I can tell you that I have been here almost form the start of WG and I can tell you the last year or so it has taken a turn that I certainly never expected to see.In the beginning, people were respectful of each other's opinions and had some great discussions about watches. Unfortunately, like anything, when it grew too much too quickly, it changed and the tone became pretty negative in the discussions about watches. The attacks on ShopNBC vendors have sharpened in their tone, people have been banned from membership and in this thread some of my fellow WGs were referred to as a__ clowns. Forums count on members acting in good manners towards each other. When the keyboard commandos start stirring up the pot, it might be time to start looking for a new forum. JMHO Kevin StreetBoss


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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidFDiamond Since I'm not intimidated by anyone here, regardless of the scary usernames and avitars, I'll play devils advocate... A lot of people here complain that hardly anyone makes posts, and just read instead. Then you hear from the newer geeks who are afraid to post, that it's because they don't want to say something the "old pros" think is stupid, and attract the bully's! If they do try and it comes out wrong, without the ability to edit, they will continue to stay on the sidelines IMO. I've seen it happen, and I don't think making people feel stupid, is in the spirit of what WatchGeeks is all about. Just a thought, I may be wrong...or not!

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Good discussion. I do agree that every effort should be made to keep a thread alive even if it's not going how the OP wishes it to. UNLESS it's hijacked and taken in a different direction, or runs it's course and decends into terminal insanity. I'd also add that in addition to the OP, posters should do their utmost to refrain from calling for closing of a thread as well. Sometimes a spirited discussion with respectful disagreements within the TOS will be seen by some as bashing and they'll howl for it to end. It's best to let the mods make those calls IMO.


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Quote: Originally Posted by 50mm&up When are you going to ask the Mods to close this? Come on Rick. you know i wont ask for a thread to be closed. i say what i say and let em hang low all day long. If someone disagrees with me i say go for it and tell me. i dont take offense. i listen with both ears. if i disagree i will tell them, if i agree, well then, i learned from the ordeal and am a better person for havin been corrected. __________________

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Quote: Originally Posted by StreetBoss .....and in this thread some of my fellow WGs were referred to as a__ clowns. Forums count on members acting in good manners towards each other. When the keyboard commandos start stirring up the pot, it might be time to start looking for a new forum. JMHO Kevin Kevin, I may have been out of line with my comments on this tread but I'll not forget the names of our fellow WG's who attacked me in my two aforementioned posts.....it was not only unnessesary that it happened then but sad that it's happened since then to other WG's. Where's the defense in that? __________________

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Quote: Originally Posted by StreetBoss .... When the keyboard commandos start stirring up the pot, it might be time to start looking for a new forum. JMHO Kevin ===== My wife and others have left one forum to create another for greener, more civil pastures. Life goes on. I feel bad though when very brilliant knowledgeable people just try and win their side of an 'argument' by posting a long series of points and counterpoints. Then in real life, sometimes this can break a friendship. Or you lose a colleague who doesn't go to any future Get Togethers. My motto is: "Don't make your point way too 'pointy.' Why bayonet your listener?" So I think a thread can run it's course to give people time to chime in on a subject. Thank you. __________________ "Don't sweat the small stuff?!? With watches, it's ALL about tiny, important small stuff." Dave B View Public Profile Send a private message to Dave B


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Quote: Originally Posted by Dave B ===== My wife and others have left one forum to create another for greener, more civil pastures. Life goes on. I feel bad though when very brilliant knowledgeable people just try and win their side of an 'argument' by posting a long series of points and counterpoints. Then in real life, sometimes this can break a friendship. Or you lose a colleague who doesn't go to any future Get Togethers. My motto is: "Don't make your point way too 'pointy.' Why bayonet your listener?" So I think a thread can run it's course to give people time to chime in on a subject. Thank you. i take it you not much of a debater? i dotnmean that offensively but as an observation. i know i can be one of those people you described. my mom always told me "Chris you just dont give up". if i feel i'm right, i'm gonna try to get you to see my way, if not then hopefully you will convince me of yours. that's what makes a good debate. now sometimes you donthave to agree but so long as you understand why i am saying what i'm saying. other times we will just have to agree to disagree... being passionate about a thought requires one to stand behind it, and believe in it. for me to believe in something either results in my standing by my thoughts and arguing my point or just abandon and saying who gives a ***** __________________

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i've read many off topic comments in threads and wondered why ... like stated earlier why can adults agree to disagree and stay on subject doing it . __________________ Sorry I'm late,had to decide which watch to wear . gmen97 View Public Profile Send a private message to gmen97 Find all posts by gmen97 Add gmen97 to Your Contacts #23 Yesterday, 08:27 PM

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I'm not afraid of debate whatsoever, problem is a lot of the reason a person wants a thread closed is because the debate goes to places it has no business going and the op no longer wants his intentions bastardized by people making comments that don't apply. It's a right that a member here has, and I think it is a good one. If I, being quite honest for a moment here, posted exactly


what I truly thought about a lot of stuff said here I would be banned in two seconds. Like many I try to play as nice as possible, not everyone here does. If a OP wants HIS or HER thread closed that is THEIR right. Complaining about someone wanting a thread of THEIRS closed is taking away one of the actual rights a member has here. Everything else is left to interpretation from the moderators and owners. Leave it the way it is and move on to another thread! curiousgeorge View Public Profile Send a private message to curiousgeorge Find all posts by curiousgeorge Add curiousgeorge to Your Contacts #25 Today, 05:33 AM hitch Senior Member Senior Geek

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Quote: Originally Posted by BigBully If you start a thread then let it run it's course. If the moderators feel it's time to shut it down then they will. the Mods do a good job here of keeping peace. . Quote: Originally Posted by CharlieB . Sometimes a spirited discussion with respectful disagreements within the TOS will be seen by some as bashing and they'll howl for it to end. It's best to let the mods make those calls IMO. BB and charlie. Two veteran geeks with good advice. Mods may not always be right but, like judges, without them their would often be chaos. This forum is way too big to always let the members call the shots. Mods are chosen for their percieved ability to carry out the visions of the founders which is the way it should be. So IMO an OP request for closing shouldnt just be a given but also only done for a good legitimate reason.


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i didnt say that a member shudnt have the ability to ask for a thread to be closed, nor did i say that they shudnt have the right for it to be closed. simply i was speaking toward responsibility. i feel that a member shud give thought tohis topic thread BEFORE posting it. agreed, that if i topic goes of course then that's a different story... but if someone posts say something that will stir up a debate, or be controversial, then he/she shud realize that prior to hitting that submit button. all i'm talkin about it taking responsibility for one's actions rather than saying oopsie and then calling for a close after you've gotten people riled up. we all know what it's like to be involved in a thread, and type a response only to have it closed, and you're left there feeling like you didnt get a ward in or your thoughts expressed. it may have been a very god point, you may have wanted to apologize to someone or perhaps comend someone on their insight but you cant cuz the thread was closed.... __________________

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um ,they normally shut them for me LOL Scott __________________ KIMBER COMPROMISE SOMEWERE ELSE Evil Empire View Public Profile Send a private message to Evil Empire Find all posts by Evil Empire Add Evil Empire to Your Contacts #28 Today, 09:15 AM Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bay Village Oh Posts: 404 Real Name: Don

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I agree,let it play out and see where it goes. As long as it stays on topic. The Mod's will jump in, if,and when they are needed. wrist art View Public Profile Send a private message to wrist art Find all posts by wrist art Add wrist art to Your Contacts #29 Today, 12:38 PM DavidFDiamond Senior Member Senior Geek

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I think the old adage "It's not what you say, but how you say it" applies here. There are a lot a ways to say something... Why don't we just do our best to say it in a way that isn't offensive... __________________

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