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My Non-Swiss Made Arrived Today and...

...well I was stuck between to mid-sized Akula's that was a Father's Day gift from my kids on Sunday. Both were Invicta Reserve Akula watches which I always believed all Reserves to be Swiss Made and Hand Assembled like the ton of threads flying on here this week. Well, the mid sized Akula model with the Chronograph movement is the one I purchased...and you guessed it...it only said Swiss on the face meaning now that is was made in China as I learned this week. So anyway, the watch arrived today and here are chronological order of events: 1. Open shipping box and I see a Yellow Invicta outter watch box NOT the Black Reserve box... so I say "ok", 2. The outter Invicta box looks a little worn like it was handled a few times before...so I say "ok", 3. I take out the inner Yellow watch box (NOT Black Reserve) and the Invicta tissue paper is torn and ragged looking, never seen that before...ok I say, 4. I open the watch box and the watch is in a odd position on the pillow like for sure this watch has been off before...ok I can deal, 5. I remove this long tube like plastic covering the watch so I can look at it closely and make sure all the functions work correctly especially the Chronograph functions so I do a test and guess what? 6. The Chrono runs fine and stops perfectly, but when I went to reset the dial functions the second and 1/10 second did not zero out...not even close! 7. So I go for the instruction manual to see if I can zero them out...and guess what? 8. I look and look and NO freaking instruction manual with the watch!!! It took me all of 10 minutes to fill out the return papers and ship it back to The Shop!!! Pretty frustrated not only learning this "Reserve" was made in China and not getting a true Swiss Made piece it was a Father's Day gift to boot so my kids were upset with the events today as well. Know what though? I love this piece so I went online to The Shop and ordered me what I really wanted the Akula 6447 GMT (See Avatar) that is truly Swiss Made possibly Hand Assembled timepiece (think this time I'll get a Reserve Box?). Really bummer day BUT with a good ending...now the wait begins again Peace friends!


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MATTNATTI Senior Member Veteran Geek

sorry to hear that, it makes it even worse when your kids are excited for you to get there gift and it turns out like this. hopefully you will have good luck with the next one. __________________ Did you see that? Do they all got hedges like that? Do they? MATTNATTI View Public Profile Send a private message to MATTNATTI Send email to MATTNATTI Find all posts by MATTNATTI Add MATTNATTI to Your Contacts #3 Today, 05:57 PM

curiousgeorge Senior Member Super Geek

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Your problem here was not an Asian watch but a ShopNbc watch that had been returned and resold. If you asked anyone here how to zero out the chrono hands you would have had dozens of replies on how to do it. many chrono's from many different brands will come with the chrono hands not zeroed. this happens during rough handling in the shipping process. if i


were you I would be more mad that ShopNbc repackaged a return. Hope the next one comes the way it should for you. curiousgeorge View Public Profile Send a private message to curiousgeorge Find all posts by curiousgeorge Add curiousgeorge to Your Contacts #4 Today, 05:58 PM Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 900

Owlwatch Senior Member Veteran Geek

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Originally Posted by gdevine ... Asian crap back to The Shop...Pretty frustrated not only learning this "Reserve" was made in China and not getting a true Swiss Made piece... IMHO...just because a timepiece has Swiss at the 6 0'clock mark does not make it "Asian crap"! Again, JMHO Owlwatch View Public Profile Send a private message to Owlwatch Find all posts by Owlwatch Add Owlwatch to Your Contacts #5 Today, 06:01 PM

krayziehustler

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you do know that the swiss made version probably has 49% made in china right? also with all due respect, hands not aligning is not Invicta's fault, you could have even come here and asked how to calibrate where ppl with that movement would have been happy to help __________________


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WatchYaThink

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Sorry for your frustration .... but, I'm pretty sure there was no need to return your watch. Recalibrating the reset position of the chrono hands is a super simple thing to do. If the manual was missing, the instructions are on the Invicta website, or I'm sure one of the CS people would have been happy to walk you through the process if you would call them .... or, you could have got the instructions here by just coming on and asking. __________________ "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" - Jimi Hendrix WatchYaThink View Public Profile Send a private message to WatchYaThink Send email to WatchYaThink Find all posts by WatchYaThink Add WatchYaThink to Your Contacts #7 Today, 06:25 PM

xvrider Senior Member Senior Geek

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Lets all take a chill pill. You can't blame the guy for going with his gut and sending the watch back as soon as he saw it and got a bad feeling! And as far as griping about quality this and quality that, I feel if an individual receives a bad watch from Invicta, the rest of us deserve to hear about it. I for one have received two bad watches in a row from Shop and I felt it was my duty to let you guys know. __________________ Sean

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harley2176

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All reserve time pieces are swiss made except the reserve lupah. harley2176 View Public Profile Send a private message to harley2176 Find all posts by harley2176 Add harley2176 to Your Contacts #9 Today, 06:31 PM

krayziehustler

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Originally Posted by xvrider Lets all take a chill pill. You can't blame the guy for going with his gut and sending the watch back as soon as he saw it and got a bad feeling! And as far as griping about quality this and quality that, I feel if an individual receives a bad watch from Invicta, the rest of us deserve to hear about it. I for one have received two bad watches in a row from Shop and I felt it was my duty to let you guys know.


as long as people take it for what it's worth and don't take it to mean that of the 2 million or so watches they sell a year, 1 million or so are messed up for example. how many threads here are about broken or dud cititzen watches, they sell more watches a year than invicta, even a 1% fail rate will be a huge amount of people, yet the citizen population here is so low, some ppl think only Invicta has these problems __________________ I'd rather be a lion for a day than a lamb that lives forever - Canibus krayziehustler View Public Profile Send a private message to krayziehustler Find all posts by krayziehustler Add krayziehustler to Your Contacts #10 Today, 06:31 PM

gottahaveonion

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i don't know 100 percent facts of all these threads but i am a good judge of body language..... u can tell they dance around all these topics on air whether how they really feel about rubber straps or whether something is Swiss made or not....lets get one thing str8 they are not a swiss house and are not regulated as such , as long as they meet US standards and regs... gottahaveonion View Public Profile Send a private message to gottahaveonion Find all posts by gottahaveonion Add gottahaveonion to Your Contacts #11 Today, 06:32 PM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pompano Beach, FL Posts: 31 Real Name: Geno

gdevine Member Member Geek

Tongue in Cheek with the Asian comment guys...come on have a little levity. Really, I was


50/50 between these two Akula's anyway but with all the threads this week about the "Swiss" thing (and I did feel deceived as well), not getting a Reserve Box, knowing the watch was shipped God knows how many time, and how many times it was handled (thus the type of wrapping around the watch), the worn looking watch box, the hand alignment problems and NO FREAKING MANUAL and two bummed out kids it was easy to return it. REMEMBER, I just purchased another one from The Shop so I do have trust (albeit limited now) in both The Shop and The Watch Brand. Put yourself in my shoes and you may, just may, feel like I do. BTW, how many thread counts do I need before I can express emotion G gdevine View Public Profile Send a private message to gdevine Find all posts by gdevine Add gdevine to Your Contacts #12 Today, 06:37 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 1,347 Real Name: Paul

heavyjumbo Senior Member Super Geek

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Originally Posted by harley2176 All reserve time pieces are swiss made except the reserve lupah. NO WAY BRO! Absolutely incorrect. Eyal said it himself. I guess you missed the thread with 3,000 replies. __________________ Paul G. Boca Raton, FL heavyjumbo View Public Profile Send a private message to heavyjumbo Find all posts by heavyjumbo Add heavyjumbo to Your Contacts #13 Today, 06:38 PM


xvrider Senior Member Senior Geek

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Originally Posted by gdevine BTW, how many thread counts do I need before I can express emotion G Go for it G, that's what these forums are for IMO. If you can't find positive vibes here you can always go to the "Look what I got!" thread __________________ Sean

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curiousgeorge Senior Member Super Geek

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Nothing wrong with posting your disappointment. It's an obvious return and I can't blame you one bit. We have ton's of geeks here that know how to zero out chrono's, but if something seems wrong it should go back. This is a very common, fixable problem. Good luck with the next one! curiousgeorge View Public Profile Send a private message to curiousgeorge


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ricard75

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sorry to hear it and I hope the next one sings real loud and is in perfect condition


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