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Jim Skelton recently has been taking shots at a blogger, Betterskills on air and he has in the past sent his rabid rabbits to attack Betterskills for his post speculating on skelton leaving shopnbc. Skelton also used a phony ID, In Cognito to defend himself at the blog. Skelton has a history of doing things like this. At his fuzzy wabbit forum, he attacked those who called him on his claims about Invicta and Seiko working together on a “special” movment made for Invicta. As it turned out, they were right, and he was wrong, as usual. I normally would have this on the fuzzy rabbit forum, watchedgeeks or watchlords.net. But recently Skelton has been at Knife forums pulling crap. When he was called on his past behavior by members there, he again laid blame on others. A man from his past, Iron Bar, who knows him from the Portland Oregon area when he was also known as Corona Gorda laid out the truth on that same forum. This thread from the Cigar family forums was started by Jim Skelton aka Corona Gorda and it shows just what type of person he was then, and how very simialr it is to him behavior now if you read the knife forum posts here in the skelton closet.

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December 30, 2002, 04:25 PM I’m sorry if some feathers were ruffled today by my spontaneous appearance in chat on Saturday night. Let me assure those worried that will not be a common occurrence. I simply popped in to see what was going on out of sheer boredom. I have been faithful to my word and have been offline about 2 years now. Let me also assure those that were so concerned on the clubhouse thread… I am not looking for acceptance, nor am I looking for any type of forgiveness. I am not looking to reconcile with “lost friends”, or make my way back into CF at any capacity. Outside of this particular post, I have not been on CF for about 2 years before the chat on Saturday. You can say what you want about me (and you undoubtedly will), but unlike before, it wont affect my life. Aaron’s post derived from our chat where some people asked me what was “going on” since I left. It was not some clever scheme of mine to test the CF waters. There seem to be many unanswered questions that I left hanging, well I’m sorry. Nothing said then or now by me would be fully believed, and I can fully understand that. Pride was my worst enemy back then, and I tended to get very defensive so threads all went to hell really quick. Simply put I know how bad I hurt some people here. My apology would mean nothing until I have actually taken care of my obligations, so I will offer none at this time. My life has changed dramatically and I was forced to grow up real quick. Regrettably it had to take place in front of thousands, but I always “put myself out there” so it was of my own doing. I made many infantile mistakes, and I paid a very steep price for it. Trust was broken, and that unfortunately is irreparable, so I have lived with that all this time. I never have blamed anyone for my mistakes, but perhaps I was not vocal enough about my own responsibility. Yes I was a screwup. Was anything done by me malicious? No. I never scammed anyone, there was never a scheme. I screwed my own finances and reached out for help. Help was offered. I accepted. No scam. I unfortunately could barely afford to live, thus repayment didn’t happen. No excuses, I flat out didn’t make the money I should have to repay in a timely fashion. I promised more than I could bear. Things are finally now on the upswing, and the time has


come for me to make my peace with those that helped me. Stories will forever swirl about me. I don’t care. I am shocked though at some folks who say I owe dozens of people. I owe 2. Roy, and Bruce. The only addition that can be made is Scotty for my half of the hotel costs at CFC. No one else, EVER. Hobbits rants are usually easy enough to tune out, but his mention of how I owe Jan and scores of other people stands out. Chris respectfully… you are wrong. Maybe some wires got crossed, or you were misled. Jan herself had posted when I left that she and I never had any issues. So please stop spreading more rumors. Folks like RichL who say things like “Maybe he’s back because needs a new Breitling” also add fuel to the misleading rumors. Rich, I had many nice material possessions when I arrived at CF. When my financial demise took hold, I sold everything, and I never bought anything nice since. The folks who helped me saw where every penny went… it helped me live, not live luxuriously. So please, the infantile jabs are far below your intellect. I am posting this only to answer some questions that have been laid out there for some time. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. I don’t expect you to like me, forgive me, or spit on me if I’m on fire. Unfortunately the reach of CF is quite wide, and I have felt that the negative, partially untrue rumors spread about me here could affect my personal life. I don’t think it’s fair to call me a thief of any type. I never stole a thing. I asked for help, I accepted it when offered, I didn’t repay anywhere NEAR when it was agreed upon. Is it right? NO. But it is not stealing. Like someone in chat said… “No one went broke helping you out”. My response was “Yes, but I broke their trust, and therein lies the

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December 30, 2002, 05:01 PM Oh my God. What a bunch of drivel. I personally was never scammed by you CG (thank God), but I have heard from many of the folks you SCAMMED out of HUNDREDS if not thousands of dollars. BTW, I'd call skipping out on rent payments and car payments as stealing too.


I hope like hell that nobody else on this BB gets taken in by this bleeding heart, sob story spewing CON-MAN! You've posted this kind of crap before, time and again. And you've deceived people here, time and again. Don't go away mad Jim, just go away.

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December 30, 2002, 05:35 PM I have to agree with Iron Bar. Theft is theft & you don't have to wear mask to be called a thief. Jim's list of scams are legendary. Tee Shirts, Travels cross country & back...etc.....I'd like to hear from Roy or Bruce about consistent repayments before ANYONE should feel anything for you.

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December 30, 2002, 06:41 PM JIm, It's been 2 years (I think) since the big bang with you and Bruce. And from what I know and read in your post you have yet to make a payment to him. Is this correct? What about Roy? And Scott?<p>I KNOW that if I were ever in a situation even close to the one you are in I would be working 3 jobs, using candles for light and heat and eating tic tacs for supper. It's just not right what you did and it's even worse how you handled it and continue to handle it.<p>As for all of the other people who claim that you scamed them, well when so many people start having the same story's there is usually something to the story.<p>I know you will deny this, but imho you are looking for pity and forgivness. You don't deserve either right now. (#17)

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December 30, 2002, 06:54 PM Shane, On your first question, you are correct. As I stated above, life has begun to turn around, and only now after 2 years is it possible to begin reparations. On your second comment, admirable as it may sound, living on tic tacs may work for you, I however do not need for my son to die of malnutrition. Like it or not, living expenses exist. Life goes on in spite of mistakes. You must supply power to the fridge to keep the food you must eat. You must put fuel in the car (or pay a bus, or buy good walking shoes, etc..) to get to the job that pays these bills.


Claims are just that...claims. I have met people that have made convincing claims that they saw Elvis buying Twinkies at 7 Eleven... that does not make it fact. One person claiming to have seen a "white van" terrified thousands of people into fleeing from every work van in Metro DC for weeks. On your last comment, no pity or forgiveness is deserved, nor is it asked for. I tried to make that clear in the initial post. -J Just a hint of CG Guest

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December 30, 2002, 07:13 PM Mr CG sir maybe it would be better that you just shut up and do what is right. No explanations are needed for what you did in the past since the judges and jury has already passed sentence on your past actions. Once you have honestly made amends for your past transgressions you might want to make a reappearance and once again try posting and pleading your case to the masses of your former family. Until than you and only you have to live with your conscience and the knowledge of what the truth really is.

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December 30, 2002, 07:35 PM "Claims are just that...claims." So Jim, if all the people you scammed out of money came forward and posted on this thread would it still be just a "claim"? How about if I go to the apartment managers of the complexes you lived in here in the Portland Area and got their story and posted it here? Would it be just a "claim" then too? How about if we dredge up the story of the money you stole from the PAD fund? Would that be just a "claim" too? Seems alot of folks have claims about you Jimmy Boy. I for one beleive every one of them.

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December 30, 2002, 08:06 PM CG, I have a really large humidification cabinet I just bought that appears to be twice the size it really is. I'll sell it to you for double its value and I throw in a guy who tries to fit into small cabinets that I've had tied up with a ball in


his mouth for a week. Lemmno.

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December 30, 2002, 08:21 PM Who's banging the missus these days Jimmy boy?

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December 30, 2002, 10:58 PM Jim there is only 1!!!!!!!! Thing you can do is DIED a Firey death you Theiving scumbag.

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December 30, 2002, 11:19 PM CG, if you are worried about posts here affecting your personal life, I would think the wisest thing you could do would be to refrain from posting here. All you have accomplished by visiting the chat room and starting this thread is to


draw attention to yourself and your past issues at the board. I cannot imagine that you would be so arrogant to think people here would be naive enough to buy into any explanation, apology or whatever that you have to offer. Clearly, you still feel the need to draw massive amounts of attention to yourself, even when now, it is primarily negative. CG, I personally see no value in you ever posting at CF again. I would be too ashamed to ever show my face had I did what you did. Clearly, you have absolutely ZERO credibility until you make complete reparations to the people you owe. BTW, CG, you should not flatter yourself into thinking your reputation, character or personal life is being affected int he least by posts made at CF. with all due respect, your name, legacy, etc. is so seldom mentioned at CF any longer, you don't register on the scale. Typical was a Jim skelton buddy. Guest

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December 30, 2002, 09:59 PM These type of posts are typical of some of the registered users of CF and why some people wish to remain anonymous when they post. Sad that Fuente/Newman would allow some of these types of comments and attacks on anybody on there site. It disgusts me to see grown people attack and act the way some of you do. Sometimes it is better to just say nothing and keep your mouth shut. Things like this was contributing factors in the shutdown of the JRBB. It wouldn't surprise me that in the long run the company that runs this board will realize the same thing JR's did and see that it costs more to maintain a place for some of you to tarnish the entire Fuente/Newman name by acting the way you are on there website.

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December 30, 2002, 10:58 PM Jim there is only 1!!!!!!!! Thing you can do is DIED a Firey death you Theiving scumbag.

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December 30, 2002, 11:19 PM CG, if you are worried about posts here affecting your personal life, I would think the wisest thing you could do would be to refrain from posting here. All you have accomplished by visiting the chat room and starting this thread is to draw attention to yourself and your past issues at the board. I cannot imagine that you would be so arrogant to think people here would be naive enough to buy into any explanation, apology or whatever that you have to offer. Clearly, you still feel the need to draw massive amounts of attention to yourself, even when now, it is primarily negative. CG, I personally see no value in you ever posting at CF again. I would be too ashamed to ever show my face had I did what you did. Clearly, you have absolutely ZERO credibility until you make complete reparations to the people you owe. BTW, CG, you should not flatter yourself into thinking your reputation, character or personal life is being affected int he least by posts made at CF. with all due respect, your name, legacy, etc. is so seldom mentioned at CF any longer, you don't register on the scale.

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December 30, 2002, 11:26 PM CG Cronies check in.....LMAO! Jim take a 45Cal. and......well I think you know what to do.

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December 30, 2002, 11:38 PM Hey what happen to my post? okay I'll be nice about this. CG you're done @ CF!

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December 31, 2002, 06:09 AM "Claims are just that...claims." Thieves are just that...thieves.

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December 31, 2002, 06:18 AM CG were you really worried about feeding Hunter at Shelly's before Bruces first Herf? You know when you were doing $8 shots of Patron, while your son was eating my leftovers? No I didn't think so , just more lies. I would like to see you deny this episode, so again you can show yourself as the lying POS that you are. You have always and will always worry about Jimmy first and everyone else second. I am with Bruce on this, you screwed me out of a few hundred bucks , no biggie to me. Just like in a Bronx tale a few hundred bucks to NEVER have to look you in the face again is WELL worth it. I've had money problems in the past and NEVER would I accept money from people and yes is was offered to me as well. I guess that just makes us different, very different- Thank God!!!

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December 31, 2002, 06:19 AM CG, Now listen close. Shut the hell up and PAY BRUCE. You have ZERO opinion until that is done. How you sleep at night is beyond me. I would kill myself if I ever raised a son like you. You are scum of the earth so stop trying to sugar coat it. If you aren't working 4 jobs to pay Bruce back your not doing enough.


And for scamming others how about the countless others that sent you money when you were down and out and then go out and buy a $800 OpusX Dupont. I suppose you don't owe them either big guy. You are scum of the earth and not welcome here. A man is only as good as his word, so that makes you worthless.

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December 31, 2002, 06:54 AM Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, thweetie.

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December 31, 2002, 07:11 AM No amount of money can buy this kind of entertainment. Thanks for playing Jimmy. ? is Jim Skelton using another ID Guest

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December 31, 2002, 07:43 AM Damm, Even I hope nothing happens to some of you but it looks like all of you are going to become saints or angels when you pass over. I feel like I am amoung GODS. Why is it you all think so highly of your selves? Who do you think you are? Most of you have zero lives and lead boring lives. Even I know you all amount to zero in the big picture. Now maybe you should figure it out.

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December 31, 2002, 08:10 AM Yes he does sound sincere. Basic to a good con is "sounding" sincere. Sounding "sincere" is absolutely fundamental to any con working and you've got one under way right now. Read his bs a little more carefully . His ego can't stand an opportunity to show his arrogance about getting away with deceiving and stealing, but wanting to be seen as a noble victim. Buy into this and perpetuate the cycle. If you let him. Anyone mentioning CG having a sense of shame or a conscience is getting a big grin and a laugh out this character. Sociopaths don't have shame or a conscience. He very calculatedly and deliberately ripped people off and would have you believe it's a mere "mistake". Grabbing pepper when you wanted salt is "a mistake" Deliberately screwing people and later trying to pass it off as just a youthful error, is another way of rewriting history. I love the statement "I was forced to grow up real quick" Wait a minute. He was how old when this sudden growing up occurred? Eight, ten, fifteen? More fodder for his deceitful, I am a victim crap. Buy into this and find out how quickly he worms his back into stealing even more. It's worked before. (#55)

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December 31, 2002, 08:35 AM Since I don't post often I couldn't resist on this one!!! Jim you P.O.S.!!! I sent you a package when I first got here of hundreds of dollars of cigars. Not even a thank you!!! To all of you people that are showing this scumbag sympathy...You are nuts!!! When the man has worked out some kind of payment schedule to the people he screwed then you MIGHT acknowledge his existence!!! Until then I think this post should go to the FTC so we don't even acknowledge this puke's existence!!!

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December 31, 2002, 08:45 AM Does anyone here have a 45cal. to loan to CG?<

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December 31, 2002, 09:20 AM Here are some of the more delightful CG passages and what they really mean. "My apology would mean nothing until I have actually taken care of my obligations, so I will offer none at this time." Yeah, or any future time either. This is his way of saying, "you aint ever gettin paid back, sucker" Why would he even post this? The first part of his statement is cancelled by the second. So the point is? He's really bragging about


stealing and getting away with it. "Stories will forever swirl about me." Wow. Talk about an inflated ego. While doing his best to worm his way back in, this very small time grifter/loser can't help but reveal how very much he admires himself. "Oddly, he warned me that Lindsay was somewhat more aggressive about itâ&#x20AC;Ś.It looks like he was right on the dot for that one Nothing more should be expected." The evil aura of this creep can't help but leak out. In this statement he chastises one of the people he most screwed over. Why? She dared to speak out against him after being ripped off. You, that think deep down CG is really alright, look carefully into this insight of how his mind works. He's deeply disturbed and yes, evil. "I donâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;t need a handshake, I just need a clear conscience after all is said and done." Now here's another truly revealing sociopathic statement. A clear conscience after all is said and done? He doesn't a have a conscience, but he does want you to forget what he's gotten away with. Screw your handshake, sucker. He wants to blink his eyes and magicly make all consequences of his lying and stealing to go away. Normal healthy people take their lumps and are remorseful. This sociopath won't and isn't. He justs craves more opportunity to plunder. He's begging you to let him back in your pocket. "If anyone would like me to reply further, I will gladly. I will not however be brought back down to my former ranting rages. I apologize to all those that had to endure those. If no response is warranted, then none shall be forthcoming. I shall slip back into obscurity and let you all enjoy the boards." This one is a real beaut. Earlier he said he wasnt't coming back. No way, no how. Just needed to clear up a few minor misunderstandings, doncha know? Understandably an important person like himself would, of course, want to correct you, the great misunderstanding, out there in CF land. Plus, if, ah, he does, ah maybe, come back, he'll be be a better man than before. No more ranting and such. No sir, that'a a thing of the past too. Pretty generous of him, eh? But if, no one, sniff, wants him back, sob, he'll LET, that's right, he'll LET you enjoy the boards, without him. Wow. Thanks, oh mighty one for the kindness you bestow on us mere mortals. Grifter, be gone. Jake Henslow Guest

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December 31, 2002, 10:09 AM CG please tell us more. No matter how hard you try, your malignance can't be held in check. So please write more of how you are a victim in search of forgiveness. How very much you deserve forgiveness and acceptance. After all you didn't really harm anymore. Well, not more than two or maybe three at most. By your method of counting anyway. Tell us more of how you better get forgiveness and acceptance or else. c'mon, post more entertaining/revealing matter. Tell us more about how conning people, I mean "make a mistake" is really, when you get down to it, a matter of mostly gossip. You didn't do anything wrong. A few youthful mistakes, yes, but, surely no more than that. Keep saying it over and over. People, being trusting and kind, will start to beieve it and before you know it, bam, you're rolling in dough. So come back to this well, it's starting to refill with new suckers, er, members, for you to get to bs/con, er, know. Life is good for a hard working grifter. c,mon, tell us more.

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December 31, 2002, 11:00 AM Why bother posting this dribble here indeed CG. If you wanted to post something it should have been the who, what, and when of the people you made things right with at the very least. Instead, just BS!

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December 31, 2002, 12:23 PM Jimmy when you read this, please recall how I trusted in you.I took you into my home,fed you , drank with you,shared cigars with you,and most importantly shared valuable TIME with you. You introduced me to this site about 4.5 years ago.I was easily impressed by you and your knowledge of many topics. Your an example of how somebody has squandered MANY opportunities, and if you had invested a small percenatge of your talents rather than finding angles you could be a sucess in any endeavour you chose to undertake. I've been in some bad spots in my life Jim, which you know about. For Christ sakes Jim, I had my seperated Wife and my future Wife pregnant at the same time!! But you know what Jimmy,I did the right things,I took the High Road, not the Easy Road...It's so easy when your world starts to crumble to do the easy things, Please examine yourself with some self-effacing scrutiny and start slow. One more itemI'd like you to remember. When DannyM had his site you and I put up several Opus Samplers which all sold to the tune of $ 500-600. I really wanted to go to CFCF,but you convinced me to "lend" you money from the Opus samplers which amounted to about $350. The rest is history, you went, I didn't and you never said a word about re-paying me. I also never mentioned it to you, but it wasn't my responsibility to remind you. Quite franklyI never expected you to pay me back, but when you left the Smoke Shop with a trunkfull of sticks the Cat was let out of the bag at that time. I'm so glad I didn't call in the favors you wanted from ME regarding potential financingof the 5 stores you wanted to purchase. This is another glimpse of your Grandiose ideas you paint in your mind. Jimmy come back to Earth and start small,you'll be suprised at how much you can achieve setting small AND realistic goals.. The ball is still in your court, do something with it FINALLY!!! RSH

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December 31, 2002, 12:37 PM Ok Jim. How about I re-word my "jab." Living above your means at the expense of others is inexcusable to me. Especially when those others are "close


friends." Scott has a heart of gold and would do almost anything for a friend in need. To think you took advantage of that is disgusting in my book.

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December 31, 2002, 12:49 PM Rich you don't need explain yourself to that loser.

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December 31, 2002, 01:38 PM Hummmm, I may be in error, but I sense a "bit" of hostility being directed at CG. LMAO!!! Red Top Guest

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December 31, 2002, 01:57 PM Ya'll all sound like your talkin to a person who feels bad about what he did and what he can do to make it up. Newsflash - he don't feel bad about any of what he done. He feels bad cause he caint hose any of you any more. But he's testing the waters for any willing good hearts to say good things and allow him a chance to steal again. Keep your wallets and purses close. There's a hyena like predator walkin and talkin like a human bein - who ain't. Once Taken Guest

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December 31, 2002, 02:32 PM Colon Gorda Pride was NOT your worst enemy - those having pride don't lie and steal. We're not talking about a one time thing. The sheer volume and variety of thefts and lies you perpetrated is staggering. You - are the WORST enemy. You actually brag about not stealing from those willing to help you out. Now that, is an accomplishment for a thief. You should be very proud. Afterall, you actually turned away a chance to steal. Or so you say. How many other thieves would've done that? So, yes, you're justly derseving of this pride of not stealing when you could've, god love ya. Go buy yourself something. You deserve it.

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December 31, 2002, 02:51 PM No doubt the DOZENS who offered financial assistance were offering small potatoes, so why would he take up their puny offers? He does have some pride you know.

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You're a piece of shit Jim. Live with it.

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December 31, 2002, 03:11 PM WOW RSH's story is a classic! I've never heard that one. What a bag of shit Jim really is. Rectal cancer is your only way out. RichL & Doc will perform heroic surgery.

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December 31, 2002, 05:36 PM Jim, I shouldn't post on this, it seems that every thread I post on dies immediatly. You stole money from PAD. You stole money from landlords. You stole money from friends, and more of them than the two that you mention. You stole much more than money from many more people than you admit to. You stole the love and respect of a great many people here in Portland and even more on the board. You stole some of our ability too trust people and too give the benefit of the doubt to people. You stole the pride of people who helped you, and of those people who called, and even more, those who still call, you friend. You stole so much from so many that you will never be able to pay it back. When the shtf you ran and hid instead of facing your problems like a man. You even told people that those who atarted to question you were lieing if they said any thing bad about you. When you sold the shirts, you had at the time, your sidekick Hobbit posted how you lost money and we should all send you $5. When I said that I didn't think I should pay more for a shirt that wasn't what I ordered, I was shouted down by almost every member of the Portland group. ( a group who trusted you and learned the hard way you are a grifter) At the same time you were ripping off PAD you were telling people that you lost money and were asking for donations to break even. When you accused one of our members of giving Portland a bad name for being slow in repaying a $3 debt, you had already ripped off PAD. And I don't just mean for money, I am including donations that were supposed to be given out as prizes and never were. Many of which ended up on EBAY. I have never been one of your believers or considered you a friend, just someone who could tell some real whoppers and have a lot of people believe him. I hope they don't believe them this time. I don't know why you would pop up at CF now but I personally believe that you have no intention of repaying anyone. If you did you would have started to repay them instead of talking about it. I also hope you get your life together. If you walk into Cascade the next time I am there and ask to have a cigar with me, I will check my wallet and switch


tables. We here in Portland seldom talk about you and when we do it is mostly about humerous things (FULL HOUSE!). So don't flatter yourself that you are a regular topic of discussion. You aren't. Also, don't flatter yourself that you are a man, much less a human being deserving of forgiveness and understanding. You aren't. Although we, well most of us anyway, do understand you. I hope the rest of the people in your life never find out what you really are. Puk Guest

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December 31, 2002, 06:12 PM Jeepster do you know colon gorda? would you defend a criminal because a lot of people he screwed over were reminded of his miserable existance, by him, and spoke their minds? No? then stfu Angus McSlade Guest

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December 31, 2002, 08:47 PM Jim, you remember that late night conversation we had about people on the web sites like CF being akin to human feces? You were laughing your ass off at the good folks on here who actually were stupid enough to believe and trust you? I'm SURE you remember that little talk we had don't you? It scared the hell out of me and of course we haven't talked since. Everything you touch, my cancerous friend, everything you are, is what you used to despise. John Lennon once wrote a song about you. It was titled, "How do you sleep at night?" SAF (check) Guest

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December 31, 2002, 11:17 PM CG the Lord of this site?? LMAO!! Maybe in yours and his mind, but there were a lot of us who watched him come and watched him go without wasting an ounce of energy on him his antics here were loud, self-serving and somewhat immature most of the time. I never quite understood the facination some people had hanging on his every word, but he had an impact on a few of you for sure... CG "ran the site" and "Lord of CF"?? Get real.


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December 31, 2002, 11:26 PM SAF then how do you describe all of the corona gordohlics or whatever they called themselves...no one has approached the following this man had here on the site~

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December 31, 2002, 11:45 PM Everyone knows Harris is the Lord of the Site. Sheesh.

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January 1, 2003, 07:35 AM I still want to know the true story of why he moved from FL to OR. It couldn't have merely been to work in a cigar shop. There was definately something he was running from in FL in my opinion.


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January 1, 2003, 07:48 AM Talk is cheap,it has been 2 years and there have been no payments made.Case closed as far as I see it.

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January 1, 2003, 08:45 AM All my posts on this thread deleted. What a shock! lol. RIchard nailed it, except for the sidekick remark. I was never a sidekick or cronie. Just a friend who, like a lot of other people, got suckered! Jim, your scum and everyone knows it. How DO you sleep at night? Chris

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December 31, 2002, 11:54 PM szatzu, I believe they were called CG's Cronies or something like that. I am proud to say I was one of the first ones to flame the maggot. We got into it several times regarding RAG and then a few times later over other matters. CG was a legend in his own mind, nothing more. He lived in the chat room for awhile, developed a small following and then ventured out onto the board. One of my fondest memories was when the scumbag moved his family across country from FL to OR. Ran out of money about CA, nice people there took up a collection so he would have some bucks for gas and food on the remainder of his trip. Not more than one week later, the POS was posting here at CF discussing a possible purchase of a Harley and a Rolex or something like that. Pretty subtle guy wasn't he? LMAO!!! Sad thing is, I am 100% sure we don't know all the CG stories. I know a couple, that only a few people know, that even further shows what a scumbag he is. I am confident there are many people he duped that are too ashamed to step forward and admit they got taken too by this con man.

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January 1, 2003, 09:13 AM A few definitions of the following Colon Gorda words used above:

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Comments = Rationalizations dismissing anything negative about him. Truth should not count against the grandiose/august person that is his divine self. Let me assure those 'blah blah blah' = He considers himself a prominent politician at large, complete with opening statement platitudes. My spontaneous appearance = Keep repeating these words to yourself and see if a halo doesn't appear over your head. He can't stop himself from exposing his godlike vision of himself Ruffled Feathers = Sneering at and mocking his ungrateful complaining victims but perhaps I was not vocal enough about my own responsibility = Perhaps? Perhaps!!! This means that hell no, HE sure wasn't responsible. Heck, if these folks would've taken more care with their time and money, why shucks, he wouldn't of ripped them off. It's their responsibility they got taken. He was just helping them learn to be more careful. Yeah, that's it. Was anything done by me malicious? = Stealing and lying repeatedly don't count. Please feel sorry for me. I too am a victim. J. Lupe Guest

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January 1, 2003, 09:31 AM If you think for one moment he is a good man who has simply fallen off the path, think again. There is no piling on here. There is a message and a warning. This guy is a crook who simply hasn't been through the justice system. Yet Gatherer Guest

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January 1, 2003, 10:15 AM Would someone please remind Donna that extreme naivte is not a becoming trait? Yes, it's a shame that this trailer park refugee procreated and passed on his genetics, but there's nothing that can be done about that now. And for what's it's worth, I never found even one line of his posts creative or entertaining. Tedious? yes. Amatuerish? Definitely. But never entertaining (unless of course you find White Trash spewing verbal crap amusing).

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January 1, 2003, 12:58 PM I remember that the old guard that was here before him were definitely NOT his cronies. I mostly ignored him, but there was one thread that he posted on after being here about a year, ripping a newbie for trying to trade for Opus. After reminding him that he was a newbie once too, and not very long ago, he then lit into me, which prompted a FOAD from me. This was when he was at his most popular, and I remember Scott from NY sticking with me on that one. I think the only funny thing he ever did was some cut and paste photos of Gary as the Mona Lisa.


Other than that, he was a PITA.

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January 1, 2003, 01:09 PM Take out your yiddish dictionaries and look up "gonif" It is a perfect description of CG. Jailer Guest

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January 1, 2003, 03:21 PM A common theme of the common criminal is an expectation of getting everthing they want with no honest effort or qualification or apology for being who they are. Hey, they are who they are and they by god, deserve the best. You dear sucker, are obligated to provide them what they need. The gutsy of this type do bank jobs, general opportunity stick ups, and when pickings get slim, apply some strong arm. The less gutsy do burglarys and mug the elderly for their social security money. And, the old folks better not resist if they know what's good for em. Then there's the lowest on the food chain, the Colon Gorda type. No explanation needed.

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January 1, 2003, 03:32 PM CG do the right thing and give your child up for adoption. Hunter needs a better example of a father.

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January 1, 2003, 03:41 PM Jim, welcome back to the fold. Always plenty of sheep to shear here at CF. BTW who is laying the wood to the wife these days? BTW you did prove my belief that the only people who buy Rolex watches are those that can't afford them or are nouveau riche.

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January 1, 2003, 04:28 PM CG = The Jeffrey Dahmer of CF. If he wants to prove that's an inaccurate characterization, he should have the courage to post his address and phone number. And instantly start paying back all of those he bilked. Of course, he will stay way, way underground. Kind of like other burrowing creatures, you know, toads, newts, slugs, and any of the various terrestrial gastropods having an elongated slimy body and no external shell. In other words, the sleezy, slimy, boneless we never want to see or hear from. Unless he starts paying back the money he owes, now. What do you say, CG, to four dollars a month, every month, to all you stole from? This is doable.

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January 1, 2003, 04:45 PM Sending out all those checks would take so much time. Plus some might bounce. So I guess not. And to answer the fellow above: The wife sleeps with anyone who has a kind word for her. Hunter still twitches a lot when I'm in the room. I've been into forced celibacy for the past 2 years.

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