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sundowner54 Junior Member New Geek Flame Fusion

I have experienced pitting on my FF crystal, the watch is otherwise not scratched at all. Only thing I can think of that might have done it, was me working in my garage at home. I have been building a custom bike, and occassionally use the cutoff wheel or grinder. But my other watches with sapphire crystals have never done this-even with years of similar use. Perhaps the FF has a coating or something- but compared to sapphire it pales dramatically!!!!!! Just curious if anyone else had had this happen? Last edited by sundowner54; Today at 11:35 AM. Reason: spelling

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Sorry I can't help. I've never experienced any damage/scratches to any of my Invictas with Flame Fusion. __________________


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That can happen with hot sparks on an acrylic crystal.... but I'm not sure if that could happen with FF. Who the heck knows what FF is anyway, since Invicta is never upfront about details of their watches. My guess, though, is that hot sparks would not pit FF. I have never had any issues with FF, to me it behaves exactly like sapphire except that it is not as optically clear (my thicker FF crystals appear cloudy compared to sapphire crystals on other brands). Eric. __________________

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reddog1 Senior Member Senior Geek

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I believe that Jim S. was clear that FF was not impervious to scratch just that it was a little harder to damage than mineral __________________

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Originally Posted by erictrumpet That can happen with hot sparks on an acrylic crystal.... but I'm not sure if that could happen with FF. Who the heck know what FF is anyway, since Invicta is never upfront about details of their watches. My guess, though, is that hot sparks would not pit FF. I have never had any issues with FF, to me it behaves exactly like sapphire except that it is not as optically clear (my thicker FF crystals appear cloudy compared to sapphire crystals on other brands). Eric. I agree there is also a BIG difference in the smoothness of the material __________________


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Originally Posted by reddog1 I believe that Jim S. was clear that FF was not impervious to scratch just that it was a little harder to damage than mineral I believe I have heard from everyone at Shop NBC, Invicta employee and host alike more times then I count "Scratch resistance of sapphire, impact resistance of mineral. Best of both worlds". Now when it comes to Krysterna, that I have heard has a little better scratch resistance of mineral, and even more impact resistant than mineral. Kahuna Cowboy View Public Profile Send a private message to Kahuna Cowboy Send email to Kahuna Cowboy Find all posts by Kahuna Cowboy Add Kahuna Cowboy to Your Contacts #7


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Originally Posted by Kahuna Cowboy I believe I have heard from everyone at Shop NBC, Invicta employee and host alike more times then I count "Scratch resistance of sapphire, impact resistance of mineral. Best of both worlds". Now when it comes to Krysterna, that I have heard has a little better scratch resistance of mineral, and even more impact resistant than mineral. I understand...but who's to say what really happened I have a pair of Rayban Pilot glasses (GLASS) I was standing a little too close to a welding project and a spark hit my lens and actually put a (dent) in the lens indentation from the heat.. he may have received spark damage __________________

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That's also what I'm thinking reddog1 Wow watch out reddog1 for that flame! Geez it melted the glasses right off of your face. lol Quote:

Originally Posted by reddog1 I understand...but who's to say what really happened I have a pair of Rayban Pilot glasses (GLASS) I was standing a little too close to a welding project and a spark hit my lens and actually put a (dent) in the lens indentation from the heat.. he may have received spark damage __________________

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I havent had any problems with FF crystals,I do prefer the saphire more,because of past expericences. timewarped73 View Public Profile Send a private message to timewarped73 Send email to timewarped73 Find all posts by timewarped73 Add timewarped73 to Your Contacts #10 Today, 12:41 PM Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 19

mikebell Junior Member New Geek

ff is not a coating but i would think grinding either the hot sparks which could be in exces of a few hundred degrees or the chips flying off the wheel moving at 11,000 rpm some of wheels are boron carbide the hardest known man-made material im sure that could do it i mean nothings impervious mikebell View Public Profile Send a private message to mikebell Find all posts by mikebell Add mikebell to Your Contacts #11 Today, 12:51 PM

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I have not had any issues with any of my watches with FF crystals. Never a problem with Sapphire for that matter. __________________ Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength. And love your neighbor as your self. Have a great day fellow Geeks!


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Dave B Senior Member Super Geek

We are shown on ShopNBC that FlameFusion Crystal速 by Invicta is tough. But if it were me, for certain jobs, I'd cover my watch with the sleeve of the worker's glove. Or just put the watch in the leg pocket of jeans. Or leave it in the locker. For your situation Sundowner54... like a previous post said, it might have been a spark/heat issue. Wish we had a few sample pieces of this stuff to do our own fun torture test. __________________ "Don't sweat the small stuff?!? With watches, it's ALL about tiny, important small stuff." Dave B View Public Profile Send a private message to Dave B Send email to Dave B Visit Dave B's homepage! Find all posts by Dave B Add Dave B to Your Contacts #13 Today, 01:07 PM


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I have chipped a FF crystal (Lupah), but I wacked it pretty good. I have never tried to shower the FF crystal with molten metal sparks from a grinding wheel. R __________________

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I have had that happen to my scuba automatic when I wore it at work. I contacted invicta sent the watch in and they found out that the ff Crystal didn't bond properly. So basically it was more like a mineral Crystal. It cost me 28.00 for shipping to have the Crystal replaced and I haven't scratched yet. harley2176 View Public Profile


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bugduck Senior Member Master WatchGeek

TO DATE, Still NO Problem with Flame Fusion ! bugduck View Public Profile Send a private message to bugduck Send email to bugduck Find all posts by bugduck Add bugduck to Your Contacts #16 Today, 02:53 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tempe, suburb of Phoenix Posts: 17,756

wave3214 Senior Member True WatchGeek

Ive had no issues whatsoever with the FF and while I submit my timepieces to abuse its not at the same level as you seem to abuse yours. I have no idea what would cause "pitting" __________________


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