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Re: Dubois 2021 & Invicta fiasco From: Christopher Becker Ccadubois@dubois-depraz.ch, emetzger@dubois-depraz.ch Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 02:17 Dear , Thank you for your e-mail. As a matter of fact, I received a call about this from someone inm New Jersey just last week. We are currently investigating what has happened here, and can clearly state the following: 1) Invicta has never purchased a movement or module from Dubois-Depraz. We have had sporadic contact in the past, but to date no movement has ever been supplied to them. 2) The 2021 has been made by the hundreds of thousands, and "opinions" notwithstanding, we have never heard from any customer for this movement regarding the types of problems you have described. After hundreds of thousands, we think we would have by now if there were actually issues. 3) Since Invicta is not a customer of ours, we have no idea if the movements alluded to are in fact genuine DD modules or not. We have seen "duplicates" of our modules in the past (sadly, not bad ones, either), and if they are such, Invicta may very well not even be aware that they are, since they have never had the real thing to compare it to. If they are genuine, we do not know how many hands they passed through before they arrived at Invicta, and what treatment they were subject to. 4) We have contacted Invicta Watch and requested not only their reaction to your email, but also 5-10 samples of cased watches with the modules to determine their origin (see 3) above) and initial sales point (both of which we can do). As you and your members are surely also aware, the casing procedure itself is very delicate and can de-regulate a chronometer-grade movement as well as cause damage to components, such as dials and hands, if done improperly. 5) Obviously, the President of Invicta has not had, nor would he have reason to have had, any "loud conversation" with Dubois-Depraz since he is not even a customer. I would be very surprised if he or anyone from his company publicly blamed DD for something of that nature as claimed; it is not his style as I have known him. Any person making the types of claims you have mentioned in your e-mail should be advised to be very sure of their information, and the veracity of any information, before making pejorative public statements, especially on a national network. You may feel free to post this response on your site, and we appreciate your keeping us informed of these events.


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WOW!!!!!!!!!!! So does this mean invicta customers have been lied to yet again?? I would really like to see a response to this, but something tells me this thread won't last. sunaru View Public Profile Send a private message to sunaru Find all posts by sunaru Add sunaru to Your Contacts #4 Today, 06:23 AM

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I really do not believe it, sorry. I would think Eyal is known by most in the watch industry that is why I feel the above is BS. __________________


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Originally Posted by vbobdriveguy How many times does this have to be posted? Geeze! I think people have been reposting this because it has been deleted numerous times already and the posters as I understand have been banned by admin. I think they feel that the site maybe has something to hide. Personally, I feel admin should have posted this e-mail with some type of disclaimer stating they are aware of this, believe it is a fake and will get to the bottom of it. I think that maybe would have been a better way to deal with it instead, this site and especially Invicta is getting hammered on other watch sites. __________________ There is nothing worse than being alone. But it often takes decades to realize this and most often when you do it's too late, and there's nothing worse than too late vealchop View Public Profile Send a private message to vealchop Find all posts by vealchop Add vealchop to Your Contacts #6 Today, 06:34 AM

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I can make a email for you if you would like, just tell me what you want it too say and I will create it for you! __________________ Not the official Invicta complain Dept RipitRon View Public Profile Send a private message to RipitRon Find all posts by RipitRon Add RipitRon to Your Contacts #7 Today, 06:36 AM Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,605 Real Name: Doug

Ronko Man Senior Member Super Geek

WOW? I hope we all can get some clarification on this & if not, I will no longer be a Invicta buyer. If this is swept under the carpet, that would be insulting to me as a loyal Invicta buyer. I would like answers on this, as I have this model & for now I will hold judgement until further info is giving if this is legit or not? __________________

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I CAN not rationalize a company the size of Invicta ..LYING or out and out DUPING their customers ..how would they benefit by this they would lose all credibility not to mention the lawsuits to follow ...how many times have you heard of this kind of SKULDUGGERY occurring in capitalism.....as for that e-mail.. somebody may claim to have more information than they actually do ... there is much more that has to be disclosed before anybody can judge.... __________________

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Originally Posted by RipitRon I can make a email for you if you would like, just tell me what you want it too say and I will create it for you! Ron thats not the only email out there from DD. They both have been deleted. __________________

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This is the first time I have seen this. WOW. I do find it hard to believe that Invicta would be using a bogus movement, airing it on national tv, and no one from the DD world, or other watch company would know about it. It would be a red flag to someone when they heard that. __________________

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RipitRon

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Originally Posted by reliefcp Ron thats not the only email out there from DD. They both have been deleted. I can make you several if you would like! How many is it that you need? P.S. lets just say that the email is Original, what does this really mean other then Invicta didnt buy it from DD direct. Is that a crime? I bought a brand new Hummer from a non Hummer dealer, does that make my Hummer not a Hummer? When Lior brings Movado to Shop he does not buy them from Movado are they not really Movado's? __________________ Not the official Invicta complain Dept RipitRon View Public Profile Send a private message to RipitRon Find all posts by RipitRon Add RipitRon to Your Contacts #12 Today, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GunMetal This is the first time I have seen this. WOW. I do find it hard to believe that Invicta would be using a bogus movement, airing it on national tv, and no one from the DD world, or other watch company would know about it. It would be a red flag to someone when they heard that. I agree. That's the 1st thing I thought of because someone from that company would eventually find out. A more plausible explanation is that Eyal purchased these movements more cheaply from a vendor claiming they were DD movements. __________________ There is nothing worse than being alone. But it often takes decades to realize this and most often when you do it's too late, and there's nothing worse than too late


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Originally Posted by RipitRon I can make you several if you would like! How many is it that you need? P.S. lets just say that the email is Original, what does this really mean other then Invicta didnt buy it from DD direct. Is that a crime? I bought a brand new Hummer from a non Hummer dealer, does that make my Hummer not a Hummer? When Lior brings Movado to Shop he does not buy them from Movado are they not really Movado's? I dont have a dog in this fight but if I did I would be concerned. Your Hummer would have disclosed where the original car came from or you probably dont care about that either.Also if you opened the hood and found a Hyundai engine inside then I would think you would care then.There are members here that bought this piece under the premise that the movement came straight from DD.I think they have a right to know what exactly these are. __________________

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Originally Posted by reliefcp I dont have a dog in this fight but if I did I would be concerned. Your Hummer would have disclosed where the original car came from or you probably dont care about that either.Also if you opened the hood and found a Hyundai engine inside then I would think you would care then.There are members here that bought this piece under the premise that the movement came straight from DD.I think they have a right to know what exactly these are. Eloquently stated and I agree 100%. __________________ There is nothing worse than being alone. But it often takes decades to realize this and most often when you do it's too late, and there's nothing worse than too late vealchop View Public Profile Send a private message to vealchop Find all posts by vealchop Add vealchop to Your Contacts #17 Today, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by reliefcp I dont have a dog in this fight but if I did I would be concerned. Your Hummer would have disclosed where the original car came from or you probably dont care about that either.Also if you opened the hood and found a Hyundai engine inside then I would think you would care then.There are members here that bought this piece under the premise that the movement came straight from DD.I think they have a right to know what exactly these are. I think you made the Perfect statement " There are members here that bought this piece under the PREMISE that the movement came strait from DD" The ole "Ass of U and me" Deal P.S. 6.0 L Chevy Motor and Hyundai motor on the same level IMHO!!! __________________ Not the official Invicta complain Dept RipitRon View Public Profile Send a private message to RipitRon Find all posts by RipitRon Add RipitRon to Your Contacts #18 Today, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RipitRon I can make you several if you would like! How many is it that you need? P.S. lets just say that the email is Original, what does this really mean other then Invicta didnt buy it from DD direct. Is that a crime? I bought a brand new Hummer from a non Hummer dealer, does that make my Hummer not a Hummer? When Lior brings Movado to Shop he does not buy them from Movado are they not really Movado's? Ron here is the problem with your analogy. Assuming these are real DD movements bought 3rd party of course and not worse..... Eyal specifically mentioned on air several times how "special" a watch company needs to be to even be able to get these movements from DD. I specifically remember words like "what an honor" it is to even have DD sell to you. Then there was the follow up from Jim and Michael, stuff like: "He has had many conference calls with the folks at D-D and they are jointly looking into the issue."


"Dubois-Dupraz is working with us directly on a case by case basis to identify and correct the issues with each of the watches." "Invicta had several large scale projects in the works with D-D that are now ON HOLD until Eyal sees that D-D can take care of this issue." "All involved believe the issue is a D-D issue." Either way we will find out soon enough. I don't think the email is bogus regardless of who sent it and several people on other forums who are industry insiders have verified the names from DD on the email are legit. But it might be Mr. Carney was out of the loop on this deal perhaps. I imagine DD's email boxes are full right now, by early this week we should have all the answers straight from DD. Kahuna Cowboy View Public Profile Send a private message to Kahuna Cowboy Send email to Kahuna Cowboy Find all posts by Kahuna Cowboy Add Kahuna Cowboy to Your Contacts #19 Today, 07:06 AM

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i thnik mike should email eyal and eyal should inform watch geeks this is a serious situation eric rastafadda1953 View Public Profile Send a private message to rastafadda1953 Send email to rastafadda1953 Find all posts by rastafadda1953 Add rastafadda1953 to Your Contacts #20 Today, 07:07 AM Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: THA BRONX Posts: 261

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Originally Posted by reddog1 I CAN not rationalize a company the size of Invicta ..LYING or out and out DUPING their customers ..how would they benefit by this they would lose all credibility not to mention the lawsuits to follow ...how many times have you heard of this kind of SKULDUGGERY occurring in capitalism.....as for that e-mail.. somebody may claim to have more information than they actually do ... there is much more that has to be disclosed before anybody can judge.... I understand what your saying, but companies and organizations lie all the time. Hell did we ever find those WMD's???? Ummm didn't we just find out invictas definiton of "swiss made"? This email may or may not be real but I light of recent events thing are not looking to good on invicta's end. sunaru View Public Profile Send a private message to sunaru Find all posts by sunaru Add sunaru to Your Contacts #21 Today, 07:08 AM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 1,113 Real Name: Ryan

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I am not an Invicta apologist by any means. That being said, manufacturers and retailers often buy products from outside sources (middlemen) other than the direct manufacturer. It occurs ALL the time. I highly doubt that these movements are anything other than true DDs purchased from someone other than the manufacturer. __________________

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Originally Posted by reliefcp I dont have a dog in this fight but if I did I would be concerned. Your Hummer would have disclosed where the original car came from or you probably dont care about that either.Also if you opened the hood and found a Hyundai engine inside then I would think you would care then.There are members here that bought this piece under the premise that the movement came straight from DD.I think they have a right to know what exactly these are. i agree 100%.......this is disturbing....either way......i hope every one involved gets satisfaction..... capthook View Public Profile Send a private message to capthook Send email to capthook Find all posts by capthook Add capthook to Your Contacts #23 Today, 07:18 AM Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: THA BRONX Posts: 261

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Originally Posted by QMZ I am not an Invicta apologist by any means. That being said, manufacturers and retailers often buy products from outside sources (middlemen) other than the direct manufacturer. It occurs ALL the time. I highly doubt that these movements are anything other than true DDs purchased from someone other than the manufacturer. Thing is Eyal said on air numerous times the movements were aquired directly from DD. So there are no third parties involved here. sunaru View Public Profile Send a private message to sunaru Find all posts by sunaru Add sunaru to Your Contacts


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Originally Posted by wantit I really do not believe it, sorry. I would think Eyal is known by most in the watch industry that is why I feel the above is BS. if there wasn't a hint of truth Invicta would have come out and directly addressed the email/problem. By continually deleting the posts and banning the posters, it shows they have something to hide. Why the secrecy? the best way to deal with a problem is to show it the light instead of hiding in the dark. And all of you that dismiss it out of hand, best to remember Richard Nixon caught more hell for the cover up than the actual crime. Geoff150 View Public Profile Send a private message to Geoff150 Send email to Geoff150 Find all posts by Geoff150 Add Geoff150 to Your Contacts #25 Today, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RipitRon I can make you several if you would like! How many is it that you need? P.S. lets just say that the email is Original, what does this really mean other then Invicta didnt buy it from DD direct. Is that a crime? I bought a brand new Hummer from a non Hummer dealer, does that make my Hummer not a Hummer? When Lior brings Movado to Shop he does not buy them from Movado are they not really Movado's? If they weren't bought from DD and they have no knowlege of the problem, how can you be working with them to correct it


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Originally Posted by RipitRon I think you made the Perfect statement " There are members here that bought this piece under the PREMISE that the movement came strait from DD" The ole "Ass of U and me" Deal P.S. 6.0 L Chevy Motor and Hyundai motor on the same level IMHO!!! negative!!! When it came straight from Eyals mouth that he got the movements directly from DD there is nothing to ass u me. sunaru View Public Profile Send a private message to sunaru Find all posts by sunaru Add sunaru to Your Contacts #27 Today, 07:25 AM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 1,114 Real Name: Ryan

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Originally Posted by sunaru Thing is Eyal said on air numerous times the movements were aquired directly from DD. So there are no third parties involved here. Fair enough. So it is possible that buyers were misled, which isn't right. But I still doubt that they aren't true DD movements. But if they are copies or fakes... Invicta just took a huge step backwards. __________________


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Originally Posted by sunaru negative!!! When it came straight from Eyals mouth that he got the movements directly from DD there is nothing to ass u me. Well there you go, where is the Rope, lets hang him up sense he is Guilty because of this email. __________________ Not the official Invicta complain Dept RipitRon View Public Profile Send a private message to RipitRon Find all posts by RipitRon Add RipitRon to Your Contacts #29 Today, 07:36 AM

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George where are you? Avery View Public Profile Send a private message to Avery Find all posts by Avery Add Avery to Your Contacts #30 Today, 07:38 AM

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You guys know that the OP of the thread which contained this "letter" was not actual recipient. That he got off of another website? Just thought I would point that out as I read the original thread. JavaQueen View Public Profile Send a private message to JavaQueen Find all posts by JavaQueen Add JavaQueen to Your Contacts #31 Today, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JavaQueen You guys know that the OP of the thread which contained this "letter" was not actual recipient. That he got off of another website? Just thought I would point that out as I read the original thread. since the actual recipient of the email has been banned someone ese has to post it. Sounds to me as if someone has something to hide Geoff150 View Public Profile Send a private message to Geoff150 Send email to Geoff150 Find all posts by Geoff150 Add Geoff150 to Your Contacts #32 Today, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by freej5050 why does it keep getting deleted? if the the powers that be werent so trying so hard to cover it up, people wouldnt be posting the same thing over and over again. Or Maybe it is all bogus info and has no place here? __________________ Not the official Invicta complain Dept RipitRon View Public Profile Send a private message to RipitRon Find all posts by RipitRon Add RipitRon to Your Contacts #33 Today, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RipitRon Or Maybe it is all bogus info and has no place here? If it were all bogus why hasn't it publicly addressed itstead of being swept under the rug Geoff150 View Public Profile Send a private message to Geoff150 Send email to Geoff150 Find all posts by Geoff150 Add Geoff150 to Your Contacts #34 Today, 07:48 AM Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA but my heart is still in NOLA Posts: 1,295 Real Name: Eric.

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Originally Posted by RipitRon Or Maybe it is all bogus info and has no place here? Wouldn't it be better to lock it after saying it is bogus though? __________________ Eric. emathieu View Public Profile Send a private message to emathieu Find all posts by emathieu Add emathieu to Your Contacts #35 Today, 07:53 AM

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This email originated on a site run by banned members and copied to another site run by banned members who are keeping tallying as to how many times it is posted and deleted. I think the hoax/fake possibility is very high on this one. Look at all of the other posts from the OP. Seems to be someone who joined to start threads about Invicta, __________________

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Again?..... Welp lets hope the buyers of these pieces get resolution..as stated by my buddy c.j. I have no dog in this fight but those that do deserve a response __________________ L.T.R LEARN, TEACH, REPEAT BIGNOIZE View Public Profile Send a private message to BIGNOIZE Find all posts by BIGNOIZE Add BIGNOIZE to Your Contacts #37 Today, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by emathieu Wouldn't it be better to lock it after saying it is bogus though? again only if you're hiding something. its like its my ball and i'm goig home because i dont like your rules. i wanna play by my rules. i am allowed to state anything i want and you are not allowed to debate or challenge what i say. after all this not a free and open society Geoff150 View Public Profile Send a private message to Geoff150 Send email to Geoff150 Find all posts by Geoff150 Add Geoff150 to Your Contacts #38 Today, 07:56 AM


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Originally Posted by Geoff150 again only if you're hiding something. its like its my ball and i'm goig home because i dont like your rules. i wanna play by my rules. i am allowed to state anything i want and you are not allowed to debate or challenge what i say. after all this not a free and open society I'm saying it would be better to lock it rather than just deleting it. Personally, I think it should be left open until some resolution is come to. Is it true or not? __________________ Eric. emathieu View Public Profile Send a private message to emathieu Find all posts by emathieu Add emathieu to Your Contacts #39 Today, 07:59 AM

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To those who doubt the veracity of the email, email emetzger@dubois-depraz.ch. I have an email from then telling me pretty much the same thing. They didn't know what the hell I was talking about. I post later. I'm on cell so its hard to do. I can forward to someone if they'll post it for me. aztecknight View Public Profile Send a private message to aztecknight Find all posts by aztecknight Add aztecknight to Your Contacts #40 Today, 08:00 AM


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This thread will be closed shortly too. I was in the middle of posting in a similar thread yesterday & when I hit submit the thread was closed. I feel sorry for the people who purchased one of these and are now faced with these questions. I ordered then cancelled, ordered and cancelled this watch three times. I am thankful that I did not order it. The owners of the watches have a right to know what they purchased and it should be addressed immediately. I also feel for Jim, I believe that he is a man with integrity and I am sure he doesn’t appreciate his name being associated with all this drama. Yesterday in one of the threads that was deleted someone posted something along these lines. If Invicta stated on the air that these were from DD and had Jim relay this information to the board: "He has had many conference calls with the folks at D-D and they are jointly looking into the issue." "Dubois-Dupraz is working with us directly on a case by case basis to identify and correct the issues with each of the watches." "Invicta had several large scale projects in the works with D-D that are now ON HOLD until Eyal sees that D-D can take care of this issue." "All involved believe the issue is a D-D issue." Then it is reasonable to question all of Invicta’s movements especially the 7750, SW200 etc. That would mean there could be many more of us with a dog in this fight. I hope he was wrong as I own several of them. Once your integrity has been compromised it is hard if not impossible to regain your standing.


I am not passing judgement or assuming anything however there is clearly an issue that needs to be addressed. I have many Invictas, I just got two SANIV’s in on Friday. I HOPE this is a misunderstanding, only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by GunMetal This is the first time I have seen this. WOW. I do find it hard to believe that Invicta would be using a bogus movement, airing it on national tv, and no one from the DD world, or other watch company would know about it. It would be a red flag to someone when they heard that. This is news for me. I check in regularly and never saw this before. So thanx to the OP. hitch View Public Profile Send a private message to hitch Send email to hitch


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Originally Posted by freej5050 one easy solution: email DD yourself

i didnt purchase one either but i agree that if any one here did, they should email DD themselves and that would squash the bs... since the emails from DD look legitimate as someone stated earlier... instead of goin back and forth with each other and all this hostility being tossed around, get your own response... just my 2 cents.... its that simple... thats what i would've done had i bought one... WiZKiD... View Public Profile Send a private message to WiZKiD... Find all posts by WiZKiD... Add WiZKiD... to Your Contacts #43 Today, 08:07 AM

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Exactly what I did. aztecknight View Public Profile Send a private message to aztecknight Find all posts by aztecknight Add aztecknight to Your Contacts #44 Today, 08:12 AM

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IMO if the e mail was fake Jim, MD, or Eyal would post a letter from DD stating the movements are theirs and they are working with Invicta to get this resolved. IMO.


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