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njma53 Senior Member Senior Geek

Badmax ( Michael ) Thank you for your repost perhaps I did take that the wrong way as you worded it to me, I respect your repost and thoughts and have no bad feelings toward you or anyone here on WG's Again Thank You. T

Meijin ( MiKe ) Thank you for your understanding as well on both posts. No hard feelings here as well. T __________________

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tampa8 Senior Member Super Geek

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Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick,...... __________________ Remember, watches are people too. tampa8 View Public Profile Send a private message to tampa8 Find all posts by tampa8 Add tampa8 to Your Contacts #134 Today, 04:45 AM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas - The Metroplex (DFW) Posts: 2,897 Real Name: Guess ; )

StephenC ephenC Senior Member Master WatchGeek

You now know that the DD is the real deal, and not defective. You also know what the issue is. And you know Invicta is going to make it right..... __________________

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NCEngineer

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Originally Posted by meijin Incorrect actually...at least as far as I am concerned. I have not been asked to hold off in making any statements. I am not involved in this process. Therefore, I don't have anything to say. Unlike many here, I am not going to speculate. Speculation does no one any good in a situation like this (or any situation for that matter). For whatever reason, people that have no idea how the business works and absolutely no contact with any of the people/companies involved wish to share their uninformed opinions. That is ok I guess. With some of the silliness that I have read, I feel like I need to put on a tinfoil hat and look outside to see if the black (unmarked) helicopters are circling above me. I have been told that a joint statement is forthcoming and that is what I am waiting for. And in the meantime, I have a job to do and that is what I am concentrating my efforts and energies on until it is released. Thanks for the clarification, Mike. As far as I'm concerned, you are not involved in whatever occured here anyway. Heck, you didn't even showcase these watches when they first came out. But, I appreciate your efforts in keeping things balanced around here. By the way, as you correctly pointed out, many of us do not know much about how this business (watches) runs. Thus, I have a small question: What is a "Technical Brand Manager", exactly? And, what does that entail. It's just that the word "technical" kind of throws me off as it makes me think about the intricacies of the movements and the manufacturing process. But, I think that is incorrect in this regard. I have "Googled" it on the net, but I have not found a comparable definition in any other industry. Thanks in advanced and be well, my friend. PS - This is the only "definition" I have seen thus far on the net: "The Technical Brand Manager is an integral member of the R&D team as the liaison between Marketing and Supply Chain." Is this correct in your case? Thanks. NCEngineer View Public Profile Send a private message to NCEngineer Find all posts by NCEngineer Add NCEngineer to Your Contacts #136 Today, 07:18 AM

Grumpyface Senior Member Senior Geek

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Originally Posted by StephenC

You now know that the DD is the real deal, and not defective. You also know what the issue is. And you know Invicta is going to make it right..... If this is a glass-half-full or glass-half-empty sort of thing I'm tempted to say "What glass?" I don't KNOW the movement is the real deal. There's still something funny about that letter saying they are. I suspect they are, but I'm just not completely sure yet. If they are actually DD, I doubt there is any problem with the movement. These are not something cobbled up a couple of months ago for the first time. I would bet they are as bullet-proof a movement as movements get--or should I say movement modifications? I don't KNOW what the issue is. I KNOW what Invicta says it is but these days I don't have a high confidence level in Invicta statements. Anyone remember "Swiss vx. Swiss Made" just a short time ago? I don't know much about the inner workings of watch movements. There seem to be a number of different problems with the Speedway Elite, and yet not all of them have problems. Did a missing washer cause all these different problems. Possible, I suppose, but it just doesn't ring true. If the missing washer is causing all these problems, why are some of them doing just fine? Why do some have one problem and some another? Wouldn't the "hand assembler" catch some of these things and shout "Stop the presses" (or whatever in the watch world equivalent) until they see just how the assembly process is going wrong? Do some of them have the washer and some not? And finally, I don't KNOW that Invicta is going to make it right. Easy to say, hard to do. I think I remember Eyal on ShopNBC talking about working closely with DD in the making of this watch. DD has a different memory, to put it mildly. Which doesn't surprise me, really. At the time of the show airing I was wondering just why DD would "work closely" with Invicta-unless the movement were being extensively modified from its original production model. They sell 'em, you case 'em. Why would they need to work closely with someone on that? At the time I dismissed it as hype. So, I'm sure Invicta is going to do something, but I'm not sure what, and I no longer have complete confidence that they will make it "right". Might or might not, but it will definitely leave a bad taste in a lot of mouths. I feel really sad for all the honest and honorable people caught in the middle of this. At this point anyone with a bad watch can get their money back or get the watch fixed by someone. But the poor souls caught in the middle of this mess have no such recourse. And I'm real disappointed that it has taken over a week for the wordsmiths to cobble a "statement" together. Be serious... The only reason you have to make an official statement is because all the others didn't fly. Just sad... Grumpyface View Public Profile Send a private message to Grumpyface Find all posts by Grumpyface Add Grumpyface to Your Contacts #137 Today, 08:32 AM


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Originally Posted by StephenC

You now know that the DD is the real deal, and not defective. You also know what the issue is. And you know Invicta is going to make it right..... How do you know Invicta will make it right....the fact it has been almost a week tells me that they probably will never make a statement about it...the reality is even though this is being discussed in a bunch of watch forums the number of people that know about it compared to the number of people that buy their watches is very small....staying quiet will never effect their bottom line and to be honest their lack of response tells me they don't care about the WIS that know what is going on. NewInvictaGuy View Public Profile Send a private message to NewInvictaGuy Find all posts by NewInvictaGuy Add NewInvictaGuy to Your Contacts #138 Today, 08:40 AM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas - The Metroplex (DFW) Posts: 2,897 Real Name: Guess ; )

StephenC Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by NewInvictaGuy How do you know Invicta will make it right....the fact it has been almost a week tells me that they probably will never make a statement about it...the reality is even though this is being discussed in a bunch of watch forums the number of people that know about it compared to the number of people that buy their watches is very small....staying quiet will never effect their bottom line and to be honest their lack of response tells me they don't care about the WIS that know what is going on.

By repairing the defective watch....at no cost to the owner.....that is what I meant by making it right.... __________________


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bwag829 Senior Member Super Geek

Jim, You asked us to sit back and wait for a statement that would be forthcoming. Almost a week later there s still no statement. Any idea when we can expect one?

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