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DB Alpha Going Back I am really disappointed, but I am returning my orange version. While I like it, the accuracy of the 2824 is not what I expected. Over the past 4 days, it's running consistantly 24 seconds fast per day. I know some may say to keep it and have it tuned, but It's not singing that loudly to me. I guess I'll look to buy a master 2000 next. The nice thing is that my black pvd blue T100 with an Asian movement is keeping great time. Go figure. Larry

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Quote: Originally Posted by for watches only I am really disappointed, but I am returning my orange version. While I like it, the accuracy of the 2824 is not what I expected. Over the past 4 days, it's running consistantly 24 seconds fast per day. I know some may say to keep it and have it tuned, but It's not singing that loudly to me. I guess I'll look to buy a master 2000 next. The nice thing is that my black pvd blue T100 with an Asian movement is keeping great time. Go figure.


Larry I have a watch, made by a different company, with the 2824 movement and out of the box it keeps time of within 5 or 6 seconds a day. I don't blame you for sending one back running 24 seconds fast per day. Good luck with your next DB. chuckf1 View Public Profile Send a private message to chuckf1 Find all posts by chuckf1 Add chuckf1 to Your Contacts #3 Today, 11:40 AM for watches only Senior Member Veteran Geek

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Absolutely, Chuck. I am well aware that these movements are capable of preforming much better. Larry for watches only View Public Profile Send a private message to for watches only Find all posts by for watches only Add for watches only to Your Contacts #4 Today, 12:06 PM watchu2 Junior Member Member Geek

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You should return it for not running more accurately. These movements can and should be much


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Most if not all of the Master 2000's are being reported to be + or - 2 seconds per day.This is what Stan usually demands for performance out of his watches. I would send it to him for adjustments since he would not be satisfied with this performance. I know Stan was beating the clock a little to bring in watches for the last show,and that may be how this one slipped buy. __________________

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I own two Master 2000 series and they are flawless and run within 1.5 sec per day. My best friend bought two of the Master 2000 series and they run about the same. I don't recall anyone ever complaining about their M2K running 30 seconds off. I would think that Stan's supplier for the M2K movments was the same supplier for all of his ETA2824 based models. __________________

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24s is within ETA 2824-2 specs. However it's not within COSC specs. The out of box experience to see the movement be disappointingly too fast is a bummer. Others suggestion of getting it "tuned" is a good idea. I'm sure Stan will get this right for you. It's just a matter of sending it in and waiting for its return. __________________

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24 seconds per day is an awful lot of time. About one minute every other day. I'd return also. __________________ Never forget those who are serving to keep our way of life. TimLovesWatches View Public Profile Send a private message to TimLovesWatches Find all posts by TimLovesWatches Add TimLovesWatches to Your Contacts #10


Today, 02:50 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,964 alwaystenpastten Senior Member Master WatchGeek

That the watch is not singing to you is a compelling reason to return it. While 24 seconds/day is considered acceptable by many, it helps make the decision to return it easier for you. Hope you find a model you like better. __________________ Keep your crowns screwed down, my friends.

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24 seconds is not uncommon for that movement, but you're right it can be better. tkromer View Public Profile Send a private message to tkromer Send email to tkromer Find all posts by tkromer Add tkromer to Your Contacts #12 Today, 02:57 PM Azel88 Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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My android 2824 is about 10 seconds fast if your not happy send it back you have till january.. Azel88 View Public Profile Send a private message to Azel88 Find all posts by Azel88 Add Azel88 to Your Contacts #13 Today, 03:05 PM


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Copied from Wikipedia: ETA 2824-2One workhorse of the ETA mechanical line is the ETA 2824-2, The 2824 is an automatic winding, twenty-five (25) jewel movement, available in four executions or grades: Standard, Elaborated (improved), Top and Chronometer[4]. The key components which differ at the line of demarcation between Elaborated and Top are the barrel spring, shock protection system, pallet stones, balance wheel & hairspring and the regulator mechanism. In contrast, since the addition of the "-2" at the end of the movement number, there has been no difference between the standard and the chronometer grades in terms of the regulator mecanism, both being Etachron. To illustrate the differences in accuracy garnered by the successive grades, consider the following specifications:the Standard grade is adjusted in two positions with an average rate of +/-12 seconds/day, with a maximum daily variation of +/-30 seconds/day; Sounds like yours falls within ETA standards even though it's off quite a bit. ZRXBILL View Public Profile Send a private message to ZRXBILL Find all posts by ZRXBILL Add ZRXBILL to Your Contacts #14 Today, 04:56 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,119 jawscollector Senior Member Super Geek

I may return my blue Alpha Marine, the watch is nice, just expected a little more for the price tag. __________________ "This was a good old-fashioned butt kicking. I need to play better."


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Watchaholic329 Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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I have an Alpha Marine 500 with orange numbers and am happy to say that it is highly accurate.


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