Issuu on Google+

3 Years, 321 Days, 19 Hours, 2 Minutes, 40 Seconds Since Forums came online Welcome, . You last visited: Private Messages:

WatchGeeks > WatchGeeks Community Forums > Off Topic

Presentation Skills Advice For ALL TV Hosts Forum

User CP

Forum Rules

FAQ

Community

Calendar

New Posts

Search

Private Messages: Quick Links

Log Out

Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Thread Tools

Search this Thread

Rate Thread

Display Modes

Yesterday, 08:40 AM

#1 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,851

KOKONUTZ Master WatchGeek

Presentation Skills Advice For ALL TV Hosts

Constructive feedback to "ALL" TV presenters.... PLEASE stop telling us how much "YOU" like the item you are selling. 1) Either you work for the company who mfg/markets and is selling the product or 2) You are paid for volume/unit sales as the show host Peace and out __________________

Super Bowl Bound - Go Giants! 3 Lastest Threads by KOKONUTZ Thread

Forum

Presentation Skills Advice For ALL TV Hosts

Off Topic

Giants vs 49ers....Who wins???

The Locker Room

Last Poster

Replies Views

Last Post

watchdude1

66

866

01-22-2012 08:40 AM

watch_crazzy

48

412

01-20-2012 11:16 PM


3 Lastest Threads by KOKONUTZ What is acceptable +/- per day on NH35A?

General Invicta Watch Discussions

Yesterday, 08:50 AM

alkaline

27

354

01-18-2012 07:50 AM

#2

Azel88

Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 3,716

Master WatchGeek

Marketing 101 my friend Yesterday, 08:50 AM

#3

kix1in

Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pa. Posts: 515 Real Name: Joseph

Veteran Geek

Hey, I have been thinking about this same subject since Sats. shows. More about how the Hosts' accentuate adjectives of the watches and talk over reps of companies constantly. These are annoying and a turn off where I turn the station. I know its not an easy job for the most part and they do a great job but this other silliness is a turn off to even buying. I have heard the particular hosts describe and say the exact same thing about diff timepieces. Well Koko since you brought the subject up I had to put my 2 cents in. Its not a big deal overall but may help in selling more... Yesterday, 08:57 AM

#4

timetraveler

Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lovely Louisiana Posts: 5,824 Real Name: just "Bill"

Moderator True WatchGeek

Sorry, I don't get it. It's sales. Everything a presenter says is said to encourage the sale of a product that is being presented to a diverse group of potential buyers. If you expect them to simply provide the specs and then shut up, your expecting too much. Why not just scroll the specifications across the bottom of the screen, play some elevator music,


and do away with the hosts altogether? __________________

Just Bill - And I never met a watch I didn't like. Yesterday, 09:12 AM

#5

watchdude1

Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 4,002 Real Name: Matt

Moderator Master WatchGeek

Well, yes and no...I think that if the host/presenter can "selectively" and I mean VERY selectively and "sparingly" share their enthusiasm or firsthand experience with the product, it can be constructive. They are looked at as the "experts" and that can be persuasive. I'm thinking watches here, but seriously, ALL the main hosts are "collectors" and therefore own and have first hand knowledge of the product. Now, I agree, if EVERY single watch is a "gotta have it," then it is a turn-off. I'll give you a good example...Michael could not contain himself when speaking of the new Cuadro. He was beside himself with excitement and I frankly found that compelling because it was "real." I think the distinction lies when every product in every category is the best of all time. There have been hosts who seemingly owned every watch in the inventory who, IMO, "went to the well" a bit too much with "personal" preferences. As much as people deny they don't buy watches based on the hosts "opinion" I can guarantee you that they listen very closely to anecdotal information re: how much they have enjoyed a certain product. While it may be marketing 101, they have been doing it on Shop for the last 20 years (and other networks) and if it was such a turn-off, I can guarantee you, "top men" would have put the kabash on that approach long ago. __________________ "There's a difference in livin' and livin' well..." -George Strait Yesterday, 09:35 AM

#6


icewolf64

Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 3,067 Real Name: Dave

Master WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchdude1 Well, yes and no...I think that if the host/presenter can "selectively" and I mean VERY selectively and "sparingly" share their enthusiasm or firsthand experience with the product, it can be constructive. They are looked at as the "experts" and that can be persuasive. I'm thinking watches here, but seriously, ALL the main hosts are "collectors" and therefore own and have first hand knowledge of the product. Now, I agree, if EVERY single watch is a "gotta have it," then it is a turn-off. I'll give you a good example...Michael could not contain himself when speaking of the new Cuadro. He was beside himself with excitement and I frankly found that compelling because it was "real." I think the distinction lies when every product in every category is the best of all time. There have been hosts who seemingly owned every watch in the inventory who, IMO, "went to the well" a bit too much with "personal" preferences. As much as people deny they don't buy watches based on the hosts "opinion" I can guarantee you that they listen very closely to anecdotal information re: how much they have enjoyed a certain product. While it may be marketing 101, they have been doing it on Shop for the last 20 years (and other networks) and if it was such a turn-off, I can guarantee you, "top men" would have put the kabash on that approach long ago. pretty well put, I would have to concure with you on this. __________________

Yesterday, 09:39 AM

#7

DiveMaster

Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 793 Real Name: Juice

Veteran Geek

Agree Quote:

Originally Posted by watchdude1 Well, yes and no...I think that if the host/presenter can "selectively" and I mean VERY selectively and "sparingly" share their enthusiasm or firsthand experience with the product,


it can be constructive. They are looked at as the "experts" and that can be persuasive. I'm thinking watches here, but seriously, ALL the main hosts are "collectors" and therefore own and have first hand knowledge of the product. Now, I agree, if EVERY single watch is a "gotta have it," then it is a turn-off. I'll give you a good example...Michael could not contain himself when speaking of the new Cuadro. He was beside himself with excitement and I frankly found that compelling because it was "real." I think the distinction lies when every product in every category is the best of all time. There have been hosts who seemingly owned every watch in the inventory who, IMO, "went to the well" a bit too much with "personal" preferences. As much as people deny they don't buy watches based on the hosts "opinion" I can guarantee you that they listen very closely to anecdotal information re: how much they have enjoyed a certain product. While it may be marketing 101, they have been doing it on Shop for the last 20 years (and other networks) and if it was such a turn-off, I can guarantee you, "top men" would have put the kabash on that approach long ago. If its ever demonstrated that sales volume declined due to that "delivery" it will change. Im not a fan of product over hype. But it does work. Cheers Juice Yesterday, 09:43 AM

#8

watchcrazzedrookie Senior Geek

Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: OHIO,columbus for now Posts: 271 Real Name: richard,rick is cool too

whats wrong with saying how much they like a timepiece or two. why do we watch,because we have the same intrests.would you like someone telling you not to share your likes of timepieces. these people are passionate about timepieces as us. i for onr enjoy all thier passion,im just saying Yesterday, 09:53 AM

#9

fullautoarmalite

Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Roanoke, Tejas in DFW Posts: 6,375 Real Name: Steve

True WatchGeek

I think they should all be lined up and given academy awards and bonuses and raises, there is no way i could talk about the same watch that long, Hell after i buy a watch and i will have it on, i will go and watch them talk about it on the Shop NBC videos and stair at my watch while they lay the smoothie rich dream butter talk on it, i often get goose bumps and start to shiver and wish i had bought two of them.............................................. .............................i think im sharing way way to much with you !!!! __________________


Yesterday, 10:05 AM

#10

toocruisin'

Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 111 Real Name: Paul

Senior Geek

I can wait...

Hmm, I just wait to hear what Magster and Flyback have to say, usually supported by photos, before I make a decision, but that's just me. Paul __________________

Still cruisin' Yesterday, 10:09 AM

#11 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: durham nc. Posts: 6,679 Real Name: Joe

jlovesseconds True WatchGeek

pretty sure they are told what to say,but some do over do it,i can think of one that sticks out more


than the others,but will keep it to myself because i am a gentlemen __________________

Yesterday, 10:09 AM

#12

DiveMaster

Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 793 Real Name: Juice

Veteran Geek

Tim T...THE BEST

"boom"....."we’ll take ninety thousand units" Tim does just the opposite. He can explain to the audience one item on a watch in six different ways without the hype or repetitive syntax. Cheers Juice Yesterday, 10:15 AM

#13 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 5 miles east of omaha Posts: 892 Real Name: norman

stormin Veteran Geek

Got anything better than this? Yesterday, 10:17 AM

#14

watchdude1 Moderator Master WatchGeek

Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 4,002 Real Name: Matt


Let's try to keep this a discussion of "style" and not individual hosts. I mention this because it could quickly devolve from Andy's sales premise into a forum for taking shots at individual hosts or comparisons which are not necessary. __________________ "There's a difference in livin' and livin' well..." -George Strait Yesterday, 10:25 AM

#15 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 311

stevemayer Senior Geek

I wont name names, even though there is a certain host Im thinking of that does this to excess. When a host is in love with, and gushes over, every single watch they present as if they are the most phenomenal things they have ever seen in their entire life, all the time, it loses its believability. Its simply not realistic. Its like bolding every word in a post or using all caps, instead of the emphasis really giving emphasis, it loses something. Yesterday, 10:27 AM

#16 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,628 Real Name: Tom

bearralph

Master WatchGeek

Are you serious? That is the oldest sales trick in the book. That and "I have this same model at home"... Yesterday, 10:30 AM

#17

watchdude1

Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 4,002 Real Name: Matt

Moderator Master WatchGeek

I tend to wonder if Andy's post is the more "textbook" sales approach, like doing live with individual clients or small groups of folks to "close the deal." As we all know, "live television" is a


completely different animal/genre and is hardly scripted. I am not sure some of the textbook rules really apply... __________________ "There's a difference in livin' and livin' well..." -George Strait Yesterday, 10:50 AM

#18

garyh Super Geek

Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,923 Real Name: Gary

I myself usually enjoy the commentary and knowledge the host bring to the presentation. Listening to a particular host of Christmas Past is what got me hooked into taking my collection of watches to a whole new level. The background of a piece, the design the manufacturing etc. I think let's one make a more informed decision. As far as the gushing over a piece I think most of us are aware of what that is...pure marketing an attempt to get someone on the fence excited and motivated to buy! That is thier primary job afterall. JMHO __________________

Yesterday, 10:56 AM

#19

DiveMaster Veteran Geek

Input? Im waiting Quote:

Originally Posted by stormin Got anything better than this? Thanks Juice

Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 793 Real Name: Juice


Yesterday, 01:29 PM

#20

meijin Managing Director/Admin True WatchGeek

Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Eden Prairie, MN Posts: 14,577 Real Name: Michael

Thanks to the OP for the advice, but you'll excuse me if I promptly ignore it. I don't mean that as an insult. But, I didn't get hired to do this job because I am a salesman or have a background in sales. I didn't get hired to do this job because I trained in college to do some sort of broadcasting work. I didn't get hired to do this job because I am a good looking "face". I got hired because I am, at my very core, a watch collector. Strip everything away and at the end of the day I am a watch collector talking to other watch collectors. I don't have a script of things I have to say on ANY watch. I say what I want to say and in the order that I want to say it. I am telling people about the things that I, as a watch collector and a fan of Invicta watches (since 2000 in the case of the latter) what I think I would want to know about the watch. Additionally, the OP has some serious misconceptions about alot of things. I don't get paid for selling more watches. I have no problems at all telling you my personal business in this case because he (and I am assuming others) are very misinformed about that. I don't care if I sell $5K in an hour or $500K in an hour....and I have done both....on many an occasion (seriously...how many people do you think are watching a show at 4am on a Wednesday?). I get paid the same either way. How much I get paid is none of "your" damn business. But, I don't get paid more by making you buy more watches. And NOT ONE SINGLE TIME in almost 3 years have I ever said anything about a watch simply to get anyone to buy a watch. Ever. Period. And, quite frankly, I find it offensive when people talk like I do. When you seem me get all over the top about a watch, it is because I am genuinely over the top about that watch. I either own it or want to own it. Hell, for those that watch the shows on a regular basis, you have seen me say on the air that a watch is "not for me" or a color I don't like...or a size I don't like. And I have done it more than once. I tell people that I own a watch because that is important. Just like my compensation package, there are alot of misconceptions out there. One of those is that I get all of the free watches of whatever I want. Nope. Sorry. Not true. I don't get every watch I want and I damn sure don't get all of the free watches I want. The vast majority of the watches I get, I buy from SNBC. In the last 30 days, I have bought a Zeus on the bracelet, a Zeus on the strap, a Lupah Revolution on the bracelet, a Dreamsicle Grand Diver automatic and a Cuadro on the bracelet. All bought off of SNBC and I paid the same price as all of the folks here. Alot of people out there pitch things they don't like, don't own or if they do own it, they were given it for free. When I tell people I own a watch, I am telling them that I was willing to dip into my own pocket and spend my hard earned money to buy that watch at the same price as "you" are being asked to. For alot of people, that makes a difference. I know that it makes a difference because it made a difference to me when I was sitting on my couch watching the shows. When I was watching Jim Skelton, it made a difference to me what watches he was buying because we have very similar tastes in watches. Once I got to know Jim, I would have email conversations with him prior to his shows to get his opinions and comments as I was making my buying decisions. Back when Shawn Wilsie use to have his laptop on the shows? I would email him to get his opinion on watches. I would get him to give me little "high signs" as to which colors or models he liked when I could not make a decision between models. Why? Because I valued (and still do) his opinion. Every week I get numerous private messages, emails and Facebook wall posts asking me if I own a particular watch. Why did I buy that one. What do I like about it. How long have I had it. All of these sorts of questions. And while I am here and all wound up....let me correct a few myths about the hosts at SNBC as well.


I know of NO watch company that walks around willy nilly handing out free watches to hosts simply because they are selling them. 99% of the time, if you see an Invicta watch on the wrist of a host, they paid for that watch. So, thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll stick with what is working for me and what the vast majority of my customers tell me is useful and helpful. __________________ Michael

Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it. ~ Edward de Bono Invicta...in hoc nomen vinces!

Yesterday, 01:58 PM

#21

UncleDale

Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lawrence, IN Posts: 127 Real Name: Dale Allan

Senior Member Senior Geek

I'm not a salesman, but I could never sell any product I didn't like or believe in. I guess that is why I'm not in sales. However, I could sell watches, cameras, firearms and motorcycles. I like all of these items. I like some of these items more than others, but I like them all and I could say without giving a false statement that "I like this___________" Yesterday, 02:03 PM

#22

WatchWacko Master WatchGeek

Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,366 Real Name: Rick

Yup... "its simply brilliant!" __________________ "QUIT YO JIBBA-JABBA!!!" - Mr. T. .. ... . .. . . . . .yup Yesterday, 03:11 PM

#23


blduckhockey

Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 663 Real Name: Barry

Veteran Geek

I know of NO watch company that walks around willy nilly handing out free watches to hosts simply because they are selling them. 99% of the time, if you see an Invicta watch on the wrist of a host, they paid for that watch." [QUOTE=meijin;2938500]

Well said Michael, but I hope they at least give you a sizable discount. It is amazing how hard you work for this company. You efforts are appreciated. Yesterday, 03:21 PM

#24 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Texas Piney Woods Posts: 1,078 Real Name: Jerry

volscout2 Super Geek

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleDale I'm not a salesman, but I could never sell any product I didn't like or believe in. I guess that is why I'm not in sales. However, I could sell watches, cameras, firearms and motorcycles. I like all of these items. I like some of these items more than others, but I like them all and I could say without giving a false statement that "I like this___________" When I was in retail sales for about 30 years I didn`t ever tell a customer I would recommend ANYTHING I wasn`t sure was a good product. Sales folks have to sleep at night and meet up with St Peter some day too. __________________


Where`s my package?? Yesterday, 03:35 PM

#25

socrates

Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Live in Hawaii on the island of Oahu Posts: 5,893 Real Name: Paul

True WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchcrazzedrookie whats wrong with saying how much they like a timepiece or two. why do we watch,because we have the same intrests.would you like someone telling you not to share your likes of timepieces. these people are passionate about timepieces as us. i for onr enjoy all thier passion,im just saying I think the point trying to be made is some hosts say they like each and every watch they hold in their hands. So for us here that watch sooo many shows take this as a form of insincerity. As much as we all love watches we don't love each and every watch we see. __________________

Dulce bellum inexpertis Yesterday, 03:41 PM

#26

socrates

Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Live in Hawaii on the island of Oahu Posts: 5,893 Real Name: Paul

True WatchGeek

[quote=blduckhockey;2938700]I know of NO watch company that walks around willy nilly handing out free watches to hosts simply because they are selling them. 99% of the time, if you see an Invicta watch on the wrist of a host, they paid for that watch." Quote:


Originally Posted by meijin

Well said Michael, but I hope they at least give you a sizable discount. It is amazing how hard you work for this company. You efforts are appreciated. I remember hearing Michael on occasion say he bought this or that watch. He has even said he missed out on watches he liked because they sold out. He works for Invicta and still has to cough up some money though I'm sure he gets a heck of a good employee discount. :^)> __________________

Dulce bellum inexpertis Yesterday, 04:24 PM

#27 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: northern ca. Posts: 735 Real Name: Larry

rice22

Veteran Geek

So what if a host overhypes or say they love every watch. I buy watches that I like. Since shopnbc and invicta writes the checks, they decide how things are done. Yesterday, 04:33 PM

#28 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,097 Real Name: Bo

Justin Time Super Geek

advice is like @#$#*&@$ . . . everyone has it - file this under broad based assumptions. __________________


My Dream: better parks and libraries in the U.S.A. Yesterday, 04:34 PM

#29

TimLovesWatches

Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Enola Pennsylvania Posts: 5,553 Real Name: Tim

True WatchGeek

Even when I buy a watch at a department store, I will ask the salesperson (presuming I know that person) for their opinion. I have had them say, that isn't for you. And I've had suggestions. Some suggestions from salespeople that made me buy great watches at fanstastic prices. __________________

Never forget those who are serving to keep our way of life. Yesterday, 05:23 PM

#30

nycruza

Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,261 Real Name: A.J.

Moderator Super Geek

What WGs contiue to forget or fail/refuse to recognize is the WG element makes up less then 10% - WAY LESS then 10% of the TOTAL viewership of a watch show!


So although a partucular Host or Hosts have habits that may annoy you, THEY are playing to the VAST MAJORITY of viewers that are not Geeks! I too find myself on occasion wanting to wrap my head with duct tape But guess what? Since their formula seems to work, guess who's right? AJ For answer to the last question please switch to your local SHOPNBC channel (for DirectTV that's 316) sit in your favorite chair, coach, or lounger, or recliner, and stare directly into the TV.

__________________

SANIII on the Rocks with a Twist of Lemon

Yesterday, 06:12 PM

#31

DiverFan

Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rockland Cty, New York Posts: 2,040 Real Name: Gerald(Jerry)

Super Geek

Quote:

Originally Posted by meijin Thanks to the OP for the advice, but you'll excuse me if I promptly ignore it. I don't mean that as an insult. But, I didn't get hired to do this job because I am a salesman or have a background in sales. I didn't get hired to do this job because I trained in college to do some sort of broadcasting work. I didn't get hired to do this job because I am a good looking "face". I got hired because I am, at my very core, a watch collector. Strip everything away and at the end of the day I am a watch collector talking to other watch collectors. I don't have a script of things I have to say on ANY watch. I say what I want to say and in the order that I want to say it. I am telling people about the things that I, as a watch collector and a fan of Invicta watches (since 2000 in the case of the latter) what I think I would want to know about the watch.


Additionally, the OP has some serious misconceptions about alot of things. I don't get paid for selling more watches. I have no problems at all telling you my personal business in this case because he (and I am assuming others) are very misinformed about that. I don't care if I sell $5K in an hour or $500K in an hour....and I have done both....on many an occasion (seriously...how many people do you think are watching a show at 4am on a Wednesday?). I get paid the same either way. How much I get paid is none of "your" damn business. But, I don't get paid more by making you buy more watches. And NOT ONE SINGLE TIME in almost 3 years have I ever said anything about a watch simply to get anyone to buy a watch. Ever. Period. And, quite frankly, I find it offensive when people talk like I do. When you seem me get all over the top about a watch, it is because I am genuinely over the top about that watch. I either own it or want to own it. Hell, for those that watch the shows on a regular basis, you have seen me say on the air that a watch is "not for me" or a color I don't like...or a size I don't like. And I have done it more than once. I tell people that I own a watch because that is important. Just like my compensation package, there are alot of misconceptions out there. One of those is that I get all of the free watches of whatever I want. Nope. Sorry. Not true. I don't get every watch I want and I damn sure don't get all of the free watches I want. The vast majority of the watches I get, I buy from SNBC. In the last 30 days, I have bought a Zeus on the bracelet, a Zeus on the strap, a Lupah Revolution on the bracelet, a Dreamsicle Grand Diver automatic and a Cuadro on the bracelet. All bought off of SNBC and I paid the same price as all of the folks here. Alot of people out there pitch things they don't like, don't own or if they do own it, they were given it for free. When I tell people I own a watch, I am telling them that I was willing to dip into my own pocket and spend my hard earned money to buy that watch at the same price as "you" are being asked to. For alot of people, that makes a difference. I know that it makes a difference because it made a difference to me when I was sitting on my couch watching the shows. When I was watching Jim Skelton, it made a difference to me what watches he was buying because we have very similar tastes in watches. Once I got to know Jim, I would have email conversations with him prior to his shows to get his opinions and comments as I was making my buying decisions. Back when Shawn Wilsie use to have his laptop on the shows? I would email him to get his opinion on watches. I would get him to give me little "high signs" as to which colors or models he liked when I could not make a decision between models. Why? Because I valued (and still do) his opinion. Every week I get numerous private messages, emails and Facebook wall posts asking me if I own a particular watch. Why did I buy that one. What do I like about it. How long have I had it. All of these sorts of questions. And while I am here and all wound up....let me correct a few myths about the hosts at SNBC as well. I know of NO watch company that walks around willy nilly handing out free watches to hosts simply because they are selling them. 99% of the time, if you see an Invicta watch on the wrist of a host, they paid for that watch. So, thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll stick with what is working for me and what the vast majority of my customers tell me is useful and helpful. Thank you Michael for this post! Your honesty shines through as it always does! I ordered the Zeus yesterday because I believed in the enthusiasm you had for it! I was in retail for years and my experience is that if I had an opinion about a product, it helped the customer make a decision. Not to be patronizing,but with Invicta watches it is really not difficult to be enthusiastic about any of their watches! Keep up the good work! __________________ Love is a Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier named Bailey! Jerry


Yesterday, 07:24 PM

STILL TICKIN

#32 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kernersville,North Carolina Posts: 6,157 Real Name: Rick

True WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by meijin Thanks to the OP for the advice, but you'll excuse me if I promptly ignore it.

One of those is that I get all of the free watches of whatever I want. Nope. Sorry. Not true. I don't get every watch I want and I damn sure don't get all of the free watches I want. The vast majority of the watches I get, I buy from SNBC. In the last 30 days, I have bought a Zeus on the bracelet, a Zeus on the strap, a Lupah Revolution on the bracelet, a Dreamsicle Grand Diver automatic and a Cuadro on the bracelet. All bought off of SNBC and I paid the same price as all of the folks here. Alot of people out there pitch things they don't like, don't own or if they do own it, they were given it for free. When I tell people I own a watch, I am telling them that I was willing to dip into my own pocket and spend my hard earned money to buy that watch at the same price as "you" are being asked to.

I witnessed a time when you were trying to get watches for free but security at the warehouse stopped you!!!!! __________________

Today, 04:43 AM

curiousgeorge Master WatchGeek

#33 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mpls Posts: 4,280 Real Name: George

I think they would get a lot more sales and probably a pay raise if they said look I'm here for the paycheck, personally I think this item is a steaming pile of turd, but if you think you'd like to waste your hard earned money on it go ahead but I wouldn't waste mine on it. Maybe throw in that it's probably a little overpriced for what you actually are getting, and if you just wait a couple of months the price is going to drop to almost half. Their bosses would just trip over the bank vault running to put that extra money for all the sales it would cause. I can see the team meeting before the shows where the bosses say I want less enthusiasm for the products out there, I want brutal honesty. Go out of business in a month. Today, 05:20 AM


#34

giuseppefrank1

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 248 Real Name: Giuseppe Orlando

Senior Geek

Michael Davis and the host presentation skills Quote:

Originally Posted by meijin Thanks to the OP for the advice, but you'll excuse me if I promptly ignore it. I don't mean that as an insult. But, I didn't get hired to do this job because I am a salesman or have a background in sales. I didn't get hired to do this job because I trained in college to do some sort of broadcasting work. I didn't get hired to do this job because I am a good looking "face". I got hired because I am, at my very core, a watch collector. Strip everything away and at the end of the day I am a watch collector talking to other watch collectors. I don't have a script of things I have to say on ANY watch. I say what I want to say and in the order that I want to say it. I am telling people about the things that I, as a watch collector and a fan of Invicta watches (since 2000 in the case of the latter) what I think I would want to know about the watch. Additionally, the OP has some serious misconceptions about alot of things. I don't get paid for selling more watches. I have no problems at all telling you my personal business in this case because he (and I am assuming others) are very misinformed about that. I don't care if I sell $5K in an hour or $500K in an hour....and I have done both....on many an occasion (seriously...how many people do you think are watching a show at 4am on a Wednesday?). I get paid the same either way. How much I get paid is none of "your" damn business. But, I don't get paid more by making you buy more watches. And NOT ONE SINGLE TIME in almost 3 years have I ever said anything about a watch simply to get anyone to buy a watch. Ever. Period. And, quite frankly, I find it offensive when people talk like I do. When you seem me get all over the top about a watch, it is because I am genuinely over the top about that watch. I either own it or want to own it. Hell, for those that watch the shows on a regular basis, you have seen me say on the air that a watch is "not for me" or a color I don't like...or a size I don't like. And I have done it more than once. I tell people that I own a watch because that is important. Just like my compensation package, there are alot of misconceptions out there. One of those is that I get all of the free watches of whatever I want. Nope. Sorry. Not true. I don't get every watch I want and I damn sure don't get all of the free watches I want. The vast majority of the watches I get, I buy from SNBC. In the last 30 days, I have bought a Zeus on the bracelet, a Zeus on the strap, a Lupah Revolution on the bracelet, a Dreamsicle Grand Diver automatic and a Cuadro on the bracelet. All bought off of SNBC and I paid the same price as all of the folks here. Alot of people out there pitch things they don't like, don't own or if they do own it, they were given it for free. When I tell people I own a watch, I am telling them that I was willing to dip into my own pocket and spend my hard earned money to buy that watch at the same price as "you" are being asked to. For alot of people, that makes a difference. I know that it makes a difference because it made a difference to me when I was sitting on my couch watching the shows. When I was watching Jim Skelton, it made a difference to me what watches he was buying because we have very similar tastes in watches. Once I got to know Jim, I would have email conversations with him prior to his shows to get his opinions and comments as I was making my buying decisions. Back when Shawn Wilsie use to have his laptop on the shows? I would email him to get his opinion on watches. I would get him to give me little "high signs" as to which colors or models he liked when I could not make a decision between models. Why? Because I valued (and still do) his opinion. Every


week I get numerous private messages, emails and Facebook wall posts asking me if I own a particular watch. Why did I buy that one. What do I like about it. How long have I had it. All of these sorts of questions. And while I am here and all wound up....let me correct a few myths about the hosts at SNBC as well. I know of NO watch company that walks around willy nilly handing out free watches to hosts simply because they are selling them. 99% of the time, if you see an Invicta watch on the wrist of a host, they paid for that watch. So, thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll stick with what is working for me and what the vast majority of my customers tell me is useful and helpful.

To Michael Davis and the rest of the ShopNBC hosts, Keep on doing what you are doing. I find it refreshing, informative, and quite entertaining. Your passion for your craft and the superlative products that Invicta creates is the type of "excitement" that watch collecting needs. Let me tell you, if I was watching some hum drum drone peddling product, I would change the channel immediately. Thanks for all that you do. Keep the public informed and excited. I applaud all of you for the hard work that goes into producing and bringing us all of Invicta. Joe Orlando SUPER MINION!!!!!!!!!

Today, 07:31 AM

#35 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Suffolk County L.I. Posts: 817 Real Name: Mitch

caneman Veteran Geek

Hey Today, 07:33 AM

#36

oltime

Senior Geek

Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Baby! #1 Bklyn > NJ Posts: 285 Real Name: Joe ... a Flatbush boy

It's OK to sell

If the hosts aren't excited about the product, it's not likely the viewer will be either.

The hosts,

(most) like us, collect watches. The hosts that are not real collectors don't have the same passion and those shows are very different and to me not as enjoyable. I think it's cool when they,(host /collectors), are "hyping" features that they want or appreciate on a watch. Isn't that why collectors buy new ones or multiples of the same model? Hey it's hard trying to talk for two or more hours and not have some repetition in there, especially when selling essentially the same item.


Today, 08:27 AM

#37

weakskills

Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 143 Real Name: Andy

Senior Member Senior Geek

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchdude1 Well, yes and no...I think that if the host/presenter can "selectively" and I mean VERY selectively and "sparingly" share their enthusiasm or firsthand experience with the product, it can be constructive. They are looked at as the "experts" and that can be persuasive. I'm thinking watches here, but seriously, ALL the main hosts are "collectors" and therefore own and have first hand knowledge of the product. Now, I agree, if EVERY single watch is a "gotta have it," then it is a turn-off. I'll give you a good example...Michael could not contain himself when speaking of the new Cuadro. He was beside himself with excitement and I frankly found that compelling because it was "real." I think the distinction lies when every product in every category is the best of all time. There have been hosts who seemingly owned every watch in the inventory who, IMO, "went to the well" a bit too much with "personal" preferences. As much as people deny they don't buy watches based on the hosts "opinion" I can guarantee you that they listen very closely to anecdotal information re: how much they have enjoyed a certain product. While it may be marketing 101, they have been doing it on Shop for the last 20 years (and other networks) and if it was such a turn-off, I can guarantee you, "top men" would have put the kabash on that approach long ago. On second thought i removed my post, i was just trying to be funny which didnt work all that well on re-read. Today, 08:45 AM

#38

rjgawriluk@ameritech.net

Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,963

Super Geek

That person on the TV screen is not speaking to you. They are speaking to the many first time customers that they are targeting. I suspect many of those first time customers and one time buyers also wonder why things such as watch diameter, movement type, and weight are mentioned. A good salesman covers as many bases as possible and speaks to the general public i.e. the viewer. __________________ We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. T. S. Eliot


Today, 09:09 AM

#39 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 793 Real Name: Juice

DiveMaster Veteran Geek

If it aint broke dont fix it

I have opinioned on the style of the hosts and what I prefer. Hindsight reveals that my preference is relevant to me. It’s the product I need to be concerned about. For me as long as the host can give me as a minimum a factual overview of the piece he/she can use whatever style they like. When impassioned on a subject I get verbally animated, happens to all of us. So… I look at what the crux of this thread is and mull over the comments. The drivers for the exhibited enthusiasms are suggested. And in truth, if fleshed out very well may be factual. In first person MD explains his position on the topic. He has demonstrated his in depth knowledge and enjoyment of wristwatches. He and another guy would get one free watch a week if I had it my way. Great Job CARRY ON Juice Today, 09:13 AM

#40 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,851

KOKONUTZ Master WatchGeek

Thanks for everyone providing their perspectives and opinions on the subject raised. Glad to see so many passionate and heart felt responses. That's what is so great about this community __________________

Super Bowl Bound - Go Giants! Page 1 of 2 1 2 > « Previous Thread | Next Thread » Posting Rules

Forum Jump


3 Years, 321 Days, 19 Hours, 4 Minutes, 2 Seconds Since Forums came online Welcome, . You last visited: Private Messages:

WatchGeeks > WatchGeeks Community Forums > Off Topic

Presentation Skills Advice For ALL TV Hosts Forum

User CP

Forum Rules

FAQ

Community

Calendar

New Posts

Search

Private Messages: Quick Links

Log Out

Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Thread Tools Today, 10:46 AM

Search this Thread

Rate Thread

Display Modes #41 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Here - now Posts: 2,978 Real Name: William (Bill)

Hotspur

Master WatchGeek

Almost always amusing entertainment. __________________

They all wound - the last one kills (inscribed below a 15th century clock) Today, 10:50 AM

#42 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 7,726 Real Name: Jim B

the B True WatchGeek

Remember they are their to sell the product and to convince one to purchace it...If they win you over into likeing them the sale is halfway made! "I do not wont you to miss out on this one Watch Collectors" cracks me up all they care about is unit sales and nothing wrong with that... __________________


PEACE TO ALL Today, 10:54 AM

#43

meijin

Managing Director/Admin True WatchGeek

Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Eden Prairie, MN Posts: 14,577 Real Name: Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by the B Remember they are their to sell the product and to convince one to purchace it...If they win you over into likeing them the sale is halfway made! "I do not wont you to miss out on this one Watch Collectors" cracks me up all they care about is unit sales and nothing wrong with that... So very wrong...but at least this was an enlightening thread. __________________ Michael

Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it. ~ Edward de Bono Invicta...in hoc nomen vinces!

Today, 11:10 AM

RipitRon True WatchGeek

Here is what cracks me up!

#44 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 5,885 Real Name: Ron F-ing Myers


#1 the best sales person is not a sales person by trade but a geniune/ passionate person of his work. #2 who in the Hell are we to critique or tell someone how to do there job? #3 At the end of the day nobody's opinion of how Mike or anybody else does there job..............that would be Eyal's and the Brass at shop to do. In the end what we as consumers who want to critique should do is too make a video of ones self selling watch or anything else for that matter and post it here. You want to see critiquing I double dog dare you! LOL __________________ You cant fix STUPID!!! Today, 11:32 AM

#45

jericho

Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tampa fla Posts: 7,668 Real Name: jeff

True WatchGeek

what is wrong with a host or mike saying they like the watch? the watches for the most part are very nice looking i would probably say the same thing. besides what are they upposed to say is ugly Today, 12:14 PM

#46

BG

Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 4,308 Real Name: Barry

Master WatchGeek

Totally agree with you Ron... I see the title of the thread is "Presentation Skills Advice for ALL TV hosts" and then you go about telling them what to do for all of us... "PLEASE stop telling us how much "YOU" like the item you are selling" is what you wrote...

I don't think there is anything constructive or anything that has to do with Presentation skill advice, ( I didn't see any presentation skills talked about anywhere), and it seems the only thing accurate is your statement that some of the TV presenters (the others actually work for Shop NBC) work for the company that manufacturers the product. You also assumed that they get paid based on how many watches are sold. I am in sales as Regional Sales Manager, and my clients look to me to give them advice as they know I want them to have the product or service that will suit them best, and that I will not sell them something that won't work for them. I like when Michael talks about more than just the specs


on the watch. I like to know which color he likes and why or what he is buying and why.. He always gives his opinion, reasoning,and some technical information to help us all. I don't buy based on what he likes, but it does help me make a decision if I am leaning one way or the other.. As he said, he is a watch collector at heart and that is what comes across. If you don't like how it's done, just change the channel. __________________ Barry G Fort Lauderdale, FL Last edited by BG; Today at 01:43 PM. Reason: correction

Today, 12:16 PM

#47

krang Super Geek

Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 1,325 Real Name: Steve

My only irritation is to have a rep explaining something about a particular piece and he's interrupted repeatedly by the host and never gets back to his explanation. I like all the reps and I would expect them to have the pertinent info, particularly on new releases. If the info is lost because the host feels it necessary to interject how the face reflects the lights of the camera then I have to hope the piece is presented again on another show. That's my only peeve. Not just for watches but any items be it cookware etc. I've watched shows where the reps can't finish a sentence with out being interrupted every few seconds. Other than that, evedryone does a great job. Just let the rep finish their info. BTW, Mike I love the look on your face when it happens. You have one of the great poker faces when you stare at the camera. __________________

Hang tough-ain't room for second best. Judas Priest Today, 12:17 PM

#48

Gregg Master WatchGeek

Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vallejo, Calif. Posts: 4,776 Real Name: Gregg (New Geek)


Quote:

Originally Posted by meijin So very wrong...but at least this was an enlightening thread. As you have said many times, Michael, you were a watch collector, horologist long before you went to work for Invicta. You do bring your knowledge, enthusiasm and personality into the mix. You did not start off selling watches, but presenting/selling is now part of your job description and to present Invicta so Shop NBC customers will purchase the product and become educated in the process is one of your objectives! I've got an excellent example of your handy work on my wrist right now!!!! The Propeller SH in White. Today, 12:48 PM

#49 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Eden Prairie, MN Posts: 14,577 Real Name: Michael

meijin

Managing Director/Admin True WatchGeek

Quote:

You now know that none of them get paid based on how many watches are sold. Just to comment...I never said that no one who is a vendor host/guest (watches or otherwise) does not get paid based on how many items sell during their shows. I would never dare to comment on how someone else is compensated for the work that they do...even if I had that information. I am speaking only for and about myself. __________________ Michael

Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it. ~ Edward de Bono Invicta...in hoc nomen vinces!

Today, 01:23 PM

#50

jskelton

WatchGeeks Founder Emeritus True WatchGeek

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16,921 Real Name: Co-Founder of WatchGeeks


Quote:

Originally Posted by KOKONUTZ Constructive feedback to "ALL" TV presenters.... PLEASE stop telling us how much "YOU" like the item you are selling. 1) Either you work for the company who mfg/markets and is selling the product or 2) You are paid for volume/unit sales as the show host Peace and out

I will continue to voice my personal opinions of the products I like in particular, and exactly why I do. I point these things out as a watch collector, speaking to watch collectors who have similar wants & desires. Remember.... this is where I came from, and I've never lost touch with that. I came from watch forums, I came from this group about 8 years ago. I took my insights and passion and brought it to the TV watch arena. Others were TV sales hosts who at some point began selling watches (after selling jewelry, handbags and TVs for years)... I brought my passion for watch collecting to a watch program and carried on in a different manner than anyone else. And until "they" (whomever you may believe "they" may be) come even close to HALF of the numbers I have produced... I will continue to do things very differently from everyone else. Now, in sales it is your job to sell what the company puts out there for you to sell. To do anything less is stupid, and will leave you jobless. However, it is up to you HOW you sell it. When I am presenting a watch, I try to find something in EVERY watch that a person may find interesting. That person may not always be a collector. I've had a few I have despised (and you could easily tell that), and there have been brands that came on board at my previous employer that I refused to ever air... let me tell you, NO ONE does that. Well, you see how much my caring for the viewers was loved over there... but I digress.... You can tell when I am airing a watch that's "good" and one that is something that I truly love, or recognize as a really hot item (a must-have) for the viewership. Fawning over EVERY item placed in front of you is dishonest to the viewer, and does no great good for the network IMO. You can ask Michael.. I kiss no one's butt, and I'll be brutally honest about the products that I am asked to sell. If I lose the inter-office battle to air an item (again.. I no longer have to battle about this these days), I have been known to even go as far as to mock the product on the show. Of course that is an EXTREME case (remember the faux chrono?? Remember when they tried to slip one single Stauer into my show???). If I say I love the watch for a particular reason.. you'd better believe that I do. And if I say I own it, well there's enough of you on my FB page that see me post what I wear each day to know I'm never lying.

To your second point: I get paid the exact same amount if I sell 1 watch or 6000 watches in an hour. So your assumption is way off base. Please don't post opinions as if they are facts when you have no facts to work with. This is not directed solely at you Koko, but to many people who tend to say things like this in a public forum with no facts at all.


Oh, and Michael's post is absolutely dead-on by the way. Thanks Mike!

Why would anyone take it upon themselves to tell anyone else how to do their job, when they, themselves have never done it???? I find that terribly rude and presumptuous.

Ok, talk amongst yourselves.. __________________

On-Air Host - WorldOfWatchesTV Email: jim@worldofwatches.tv Today, 01:30 PM

#51

jskelton

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16,921 Real Name: Co-Founder of WatchGeeks

WatchGeeks Founder Emeritus True WatchGeek

And one thing I forgot to mention... TV Host 101... you MUST make a personal connection between yourself and your audience. You must find things in the product that you like, and identify to your viewer what they are in hopes that they like it as well. So your advice is the exact OPPOSITE of what we are trained to do. By our profession. For which we get paid. And have done for years. And would like to think that we do well. Just puttin' that out there... __________________

On-Air Host - WorldOfWatchesTV Email: jim@worldofwatches.tv Today, 01:30 PM

#52 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 873 Real Name: David E Horsfield

dhorsfield Veteran Geek

More silly CRAP

Kudo's to you Michael. All of this crap gives me a headache. What's the expectation other than to


sell a watch and make it compelling for me to or anyone else to buy. I would say, if you don't like to format don't watch. Let us always remember, it's ONLY a watch. Today, 01:55 PM

#53

watchdude1

Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 4,002 Real Name: Matt

Moderator Master WatchGeek

The bottom line is that the hosts do a fantastic job and they make those connections Michael and Jim discussed. Believe me, "top men" would and do make changes when necessary, but the watch program at Shop has been the largest on TV ever since Tim made it a powerhouse and then subsequently Jim built on that and now, the beat goes on... It obviously is like nothing else on TV and carries a good deal of Shop's sales. Not even fools are going to mess with a winning formula. Nuff said... __________________ "There's a difference in livin' and livin' well..." -George Strait Today, 02:00 PM

#54

jskelton

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16,921 Real Name: Co-Founder of WatchGeeks

WatchGeeks Founder Emeritus True WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchdude1 The bottom line is that the hosts do a fantastic job and they make those connections Michael and Jim discussed. Believe me, "top men" would and do make changes when necessary, but the watch program at Shop has been the largest on TV ever since Shawn built the shows and then subsequently Jim built on that and now, the beat goes on... It obviously is like nothing else on TV and carries a good deal of Shop's sales. Not even fools are going to mess with a winning formula. Nuff said...

Fixed that for ya __________________

On-Air Host - WorldOfWatchesTV Email: jim@worldofwatches.tv Today, 02:28 PM


#55

watchdude1

Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 4,002 Real Name: Matt

Moderator Master WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by jskelton Fixed that for ya There you go again with your revisionist history...Shawn was no doubt a huge contributor and he was the "original" watch host, but to say Tim did not build and make the watch show a powerhouse from 1998 until 2004, when you had the good fortune to get your chance is just absurd..Tim had ALL the primetime shows during those 6 years, including the 4-6pm Sunday shows, Monday night and the Wednesday night tradition was set with Tim. Just want to make sure we "get it right." __________________ "There's a difference in livin' and livin' well..." -George Strait Today, 02:44 PM

#56 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: las vegas nv Posts: 294 Real Name: Dave

lv777

Senior Geek

What offends me about the hosts is they all wear nice suits and ties, but under the table they all wear shorts and flip flops Today, 02:56 PM

#57

WatchWacko Master WatchGeek

Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,366 Real Name: Rick

yup... Everybody should do it like Avi!!!! YOWZA! __________________ "QUIT YO JIBBA-JABBA!!!" - Mr. T. .. ... . .. . . . . .yup Today, 03:26 PM

Hotspur Master WatchGeek

#58 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Here - now Posts: 2,978 Real Name: William (Bill)


As my grandpappy used to say, "Salesmanship is lot like hog calling. You must not only have power in your voice, you must have appeal as well - you have to convince the swine that you have something for them!" __________________

They all wound - the last one kills (inscribed below a 15th century clock) Today, 03:58 PM

#59 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 287 Real Name: Andrew

julius6000 Senior Geek

You guys might get paid the same for selling one watch as you do 6000, but you wouldn't get paid for long. __________________

Today, 04:04 PM

#60 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 287 Real Name: Andrew

julius6000 Senior Geek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregg As you have said many times, Michael, you were a watch collector, horologist long before you went to work for Invicta. Mike, I didn't know you were a horologist. Learn something new every day... __________________

Today, 04:05 PM

#61


Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 287 Real Name: Andrew

julius6000 Senior Geek

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchWacko yup... Everybody should do it like Avi!!!! YOWZA! Yeah I wanna see mike in a dress like I want another hole in the head. __________________

Today, 04:32 PM

#62

socrates

Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Live in Hawaii on the island of Oahu Posts: 5,893 Real Name: Paul

True WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotspur As my grandpappy used to say, "Salesmanship is lot like hog calling. You must not only have power in your voice, you must have appeal as well - you have to convince the swine that you have something for them!" That's an interesting concept, customer=swine! __________________

Dulce bellum inexpertis Today, 04:58 PM

#63

socrates

True WatchGeek

Quote:

Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Live in Hawaii on the island of Oahu Posts: 5,893 Real Name: Paul


Originally Posted by krang My only irritation is to have a rep explaining something about a particular piece and he's interrupted repeatedly by the host and never gets back to his explanation. I like all the reps and I would expect them to have the pertinent info, particularly on new releases. If the info is lost because the host feels it necessary to interject how the face reflects the lights of the camera then I have to hope the piece is presented again on another show. That's my only peeve. Not just for watches but any items be it cookware etc. I've watched shows where the reps can't finish a sentence with out being interrupted every few seconds. Other than that, evedryone does a great job. Just let the rep finish their info. BTW, Mike I love the look on your face when it happens. You have one of the great poker faces when you stare at the camera. Though that bothers me as well one has to remember the host AND the vendor both have devices in their ears with a producer/director talking to them and encouraging the host to keep the show moving along. If you notice the sign on the left of the screen has at the top right a running timer allotting so much time for the particular item being shown. Vendors can if left up to their own devices run past that time because of their enthusiasm. So I would suppose the hosts are told to move on to the next item. To do this they have to take control. There is nothing I like more than to see/hear what the vendors have to say about their watches. Who after all knows more about them than the folks involved in their design and manufacturing. I would love to see a show devoted to discussions by vendors sitting around a table and showing their latest creations and of course selling them. Once a month for a couple of hours (The Watch Enthusiast Show) showing only new watches with no host per say just a moderator making sure no one takes up all the time. __________________

Dulce bellum inexpertis Today, 05:14 PM

#64

jskelton

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16,921 Real Name: Co-Founder of WatchGeeks

WatchGeeks Founder Emeritus True WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchdude1 There you go again with your revisionist history...Shawn was no doubt a huge contributor and he was the "original" watch host, but to say Tim did not build and make the watch show a powerhouse from 1998 until 2004, when you had the good fortune to get your chance is just absurd..Tim had ALL the primetime shows during those 6 years, including the 4-6pm Sunday shows, Monday night and the Wednesday night tradition was set with Tim. Just want to make sure we "get it right."

Before addressing me like that, I'd like you to rethink your position a little bit. Some respect is earned and expected here. Perhaps next time you'd like to be disrespectful, you can do it via PM and I'll gladly reciprocate. Again, SHAWN is the one who started the watch program. Shawn and Joleen Benoit were the 1st


hosts to do a true, full watch show. This show was with David Mermelstein. Some time later, Tim did get into the watch shows after presenting many other categories like everyone else. My statement was about the genesis of the watch program, and that came with Joleen and Shawn. I am not comparing my era with Tim's, but the public filings from Shop can easily be referenced if you're actually curious about what the most dominant period was... __________________

On-Air Host - WorldOfWatchesTV Email: jim@worldofwatches.tv Today, 05:29 PM

#65 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 494 Real Name: Ken

mekenical Senior Geek

I always enjoyed watching a host who called himself The Watch Commander. Today, 05:43 PM

#66 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 287 Real Name: Andrew

julius6000 Senior Geek

Quote:

Originally Posted by mekenical I always enjoyed watching a host who called himself The Watch Commander. Oh God, you just opened up a can of worms there... __________________

Today, 05:46 PM

#67


Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 4,002 Real Name: Matt

watchdude1 Moderator Master WatchGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by jskelton Before addressing me like that, I'd like you to rethink your position a little bit. Some respect is earned and expected here. Perhaps next time you'd like to be disrespectful, you can do it via PM and I'll gladly reciprocate. Again, SHAWN is the one who started the watch program. Shawn and Joleen Benoit were the 1st hosts to do a true, full watch show. This show was with David Mermelstein. Some time later, Tim did get into the watch shows after presenting many other categories like everyone else. My statement was about the genesis of the watch program, and that came with Joleen and Shawn. I am not comparing my era with Tim's, but the public filings from Shop can easily be referenced if you're actually curious about what the most dominant period was... Again, this is not about "respect" it's about "facts." I believe I stipulate that Shawn started the watch program. My only point is that Tim took the program to another level and was the "watch guru" for many years and was the "go to" guy...Yes, you are also correct in that Tim also did multiple product categories, but watches became his niche. Again, I am not sure why you are so unwilling to give Tim his due as the dominant watch host during "HIS" time. I am not comparing the two of you, although your ego seems to suggest it bothers you. And when you talk about respect, I suggest you consider a little reciprocity...it is a two-way street. You can't "expect" anything, respect is earned and I don't bow down to anyone as you so clearly explained in a prior post....I call it like I see it. I am not going to address this again as it is foolish. What you need to understand is that there are many people who got their start with Tim Temple and have a lot of "respect" for him. The posture and tone you have taken of late is uncalled for where Tim is concerned and frankly, makes you lose a lot of credibility. I hope you can understand that, or at least give it some thought... __________________ "There's a difference in livin' and livin' well..." -George Strait Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 ÂŤ Previous Thread | Next Thread Âť Posting Rules You may post new threads You may post replies You may not post attachments

Forum Jump


catfight1