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Cannon aka Kayfaber at WUS is also a moderator at watchgeeks.net accused of being a Scammer & Dishonest in a watch deal at Watchuseek. The Admin at Watchlords will not take sides in this but present the posts about this found on the internet. It is up to the readers to decide who is telling the truth or if there are grey areas in this transaction.

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suitekids Junior Member New Geek

Cannon & Kayfaber = the Same

you decide!! and still won't refund my money http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=103786 http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=422442

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bentley85 Senior Member Veteran Geek

I guess welcome to the Fourm...now what happened? Why do you want a refund? *Update* I am sorry for your situation but this matter does not involve me and I do not want to get


involved with this thread I am on this site to enjoy my hobby and I will be backing away from this thread. I wish you the best of luck with your dilemma. __________________ If it don't make dollaz...Then it don't make sense!

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suitekids Junior Member New Geek

check out the links

CANNON

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New to me SMP Chrono arrived

Here are some quick pics, this just arrived today...

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Nice condition for a pre-owned, I did a little clean-up on the clasp and it looks great now. Thanks to CharlieB, he convinced me to give the SS bezel a chance and I love it. __________________


Ω Aqua Terra 2502.33 Ω Seamaster Pro 2220.80 Ω GMT 2234.50 Ω GMT 2538.20 Ω Planet Ocean 2208.50 Ω Seamaster Chrono 2598.80

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Anybody like 7750's

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Let's see your Planet Oceans New to me SMP Chrono arrived

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wave3214 Senior Member True WatchGeek

Well done Pete its outstanding. Gorgeous Omega __________________


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TexasTee Senior Member True WatchGeek

Loooove the look of that Pete! Congrats on a BEAUTY of an Omega! . __________________ OG580

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tkromer Senior Member True WatchGeek

Awesome watch! There's not a bad Seamaster, no convincing on any color necessary for me Looks great for being pre-owned, not sure anyone could tell. tkromer View Public Profile Send a private message to tkromer Send email to tkromer Find all posts by tkromer Add tkromer to Your Contacts #5 05-08-2010, 07:17 AM

Hotspur Senior Member Super Geek

Classy and classic! __________________

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That watch defines perfection, a HUGE congrats to you on that one!!!! __________________

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watchfan7 Senior Member True WatchGeek

Beautiful Omega timepiece, Congrats!!! __________________


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Congratulations looks beautiful and the SS white bezel outstanding.Wear and enjoy! __________________

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Awesome pickup! __________________

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Very nice - I want it! What's the case size on that one? jaw503 View Public Profile Send email to jaw503 Find all posts by jaw503 Add jaw503 to Your Contacts #11 05-08-2010, 12:39 PM

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CANNON

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Originally Posted by jaw503 Very nice - I want it! What's the case size on that one? Officially it is listed as 41mm, looks more like a 42, but wears a tad larger. __________________

Ω Aqua Terra 2502.33 Ω Seamaster Pro 2220.80 Ω GMT 2234.50 Ω GMT 2538.20 Ω Planet Ocean 2208.50 Ω Seamaster Chrono 2598.80 CANNON View Public Profile Send a private message to CANNON Find all posts by CANNON Add CANNON to Your Contacts #12 05-08-2010, 09:04 PM

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Pete...welcome to the club!!! the more you wear it, the more you will love it. when i wear mine to work, my performance dips dramatically...too busy looking at my wrist to concentrate on work!


congrats! __________________

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Congratulations on your new Omega. You will absolutely love wearing that watch. I am wearing my blue dial blue bezel now. Waremaster View Public Profile Send a private message to Waremaster Find all posts by Waremaster Add Waremaster to Your Contacts #15 05-14-2010, 08:47 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: On the Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,226 Real Name: Charlie

CharlieB Senior Member True WatchGeek

Yey Pete!!! Congrats brutha, you now sport on your wrist what I humbly consider to be the most immpecibly perfect designed watch in the history of the world! If you love yours half as much as I love mine, you're gonna be a very happy man. Take good care of it and enjoy it for a lifetime. __________________

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That is a great looking Omega, congrats and enjoy it __________________

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Male_Hor Senior Member Super Geek

That's the final straw! I'm looking into a bone reduction on my wrist! If Omega would make a Seamaster in a 44mm I'd be all over that! I honestly don't think I could remove that watch. That would be it. DONE. that is such a gorgeous watch,......wear it in good health my friend. __________________


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vbobdriveguy Senior Member Master WatchGeek

Just doesn't get much better than that! Charlie was right in guiding you in that direction. Enjoy! __________________

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ukrany1 Senior Member True WatchGeek

Wow Pete Fantastic, Congrats __________________

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Wow! Beautiful. I love that watch. That's big time right there. Congrats and enjoy __________________

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suitekids

July 10th, 2010 14:31

Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Just letting you all know this chap is as dishonest as it gets, read the thread and see the part that says "I want to disclose everything" Unfortunately for me, he lied. ALL THE SERIAL NUMBERS WERE GROUND OFF THE WATCH CASE AND THE CASE WAS OPENED AND THE SERIAL NUMBERS WERE GROUND OFF THE MOVEMENT TOO. ITS A STOLEN WATCH FROM SOME POOR CHAP OR A BOGUS GRAY MARKET AND THE PAPER WORK HE MENTIONS WERE SOME COPY MACHINE PAPERS SAYING JOE BLOW WATCH REPAIR, NO NUMBERS NO DATES NO ADDRESS, NOTTA NOTHING. He will not respond to pm's/e-mails. His name is Pete Conlon from Sanford, FL CAVEAT EMPTOR


http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthr...=Omega+2598.80

Jeje3325

July 10th, 2010 15:35

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest bump Man sorry to hear that ! Thanks for letting us know The post was looking good and clean. Maybe post pics of the damage?

newmedia

July 10th, 2010 16:39

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest WOW, very shady and hope you can get your money back.<|

suitekids

July 10th, 2010 18:09

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Here are the pics showing the ground off serial number on the inside of the lug, and the grinding of the matching movement number gone, rendering this watch as useless as the seller. notice the brassy color thats was where the serial number was http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/r...ndmarks004.jpg


Underside of lug where you can see the grind marks polished out http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/r...ndmarks002.jpg


Jeje3325

July 11th, 2010 00:31

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Did you pay with PP credit card?? If so I would contact Visa ASAP and try to cancel the transaxtion. After all this looks like pure stolen goods! Much easier than dealing with paypal

watchking1 Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

July 11th, 2010 05:23


How far is Sanford from Palm Springs, FL? Take a drive up there and see what's what?

suitekids

July 12th, 2010 12:58

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Quote:

Originally Posted by watchking1 (Post 3158043) How far is Sanford from Palm Springs, FL? Take a drive up there and see what's what? ;-)

JayVeeez

July 12th, 2010 17:33

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Makes you kind of wonder what some people might do for less than $2k. That is nuts, and I hope it all gets worked out some how.

Jeep99dad

July 12th, 2010 18:42

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Wow I almost bought a great white from him<| and actually the guy who bought it I think posted he waas a great seller yesterday or the day before.:-s That is VERY disappinting to see this among our enthusiast community and looking at your pics, there is no way he did not notice. I am curious about his side of the story now. I am sorry you're having to deal with this! Make sure to report it with yuor credit card company or Paypal.... I would probably be tempted to pay him a visit in person knowing myself if I Was in the same state... though it is probably not the best/wisest course of action of course:-|

J.D.B.

July 13th, 2010 01:52

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest I feel bad for you, man. Guy's a real piece-o-work, eh? Maybe report this to law enforcement and the Postal inspector? (Selling stolen goods through the mail?) Sucks.


Josh

voodootomato

July 13th, 2010 01:53

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest 1st let me say that im very sorry that you had those issues with your watch and hopefully Kayfaber will step-up. Please keep us posted. I felt compiled to comment on this tread since i was the one who left POS feedback on the Omega Great White from Kayfaber. All of my serial numbers are intact and match all of omega cards. J'ean Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeep99dad (Post 3161668) Wow I almost bought a great white from him<| and actually the guy who bought it I think posted he waas a great seller yesterday or the day before.:-s That is VERY disappinting to see this among our enthusiast community and looking at your pics, there is no way he did not notice. I am curious about his side of the story now. I am sorry you're having to deal with this! Make sure to report it with yuor credit card company or Paypal.... I would probably be tempted to pay him a visit in person knowing myself if I Was in the same state... though it is probably not the best/wisest course of action of course:-|

OH Redhawk

July 13th, 2010 01:55

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Chances are he didn't even know the S/N's were removed. Unlikely, but possible. I can't say that I pull bracelets and casebacks off within a couple weeks of receiving a used watch.

suitekids

July 13th, 2010 14:07

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Quote:

Originally Posted by OH Redhawk (Post 3162625) Chances are he didn't even know the S/N's were removed. Unlikely, but possible. I can't say that I pull bracelets and casebacks off within a couple weeks of receiving a used watch.


Yes, that is a remote possibility, but I did contact him regarding this and said "do the right thing and refund my money and I'll send the watch back and keep my mouth shut" He will not respond!!! and he could have been vinticated by doing the right thing and chose not to. So here I am stating my case to the public, nothing more, and nothing less, He had to have known by the bogus paper work, no cards, actual printed papers from Bogus watch works, and no serial number on the lug, you don't have to pull the bracelet to see it, it's very very small, but its there in plain view, when I looked after I recieved it and it wasn't there it promped me to open the case for further inspection, and it wasn't there either, hence the pics.

Kayfaber

July 15th, 2010 02:59

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest I've been out of town for several days, so I will respond now. This watch came in on a trade from another WUS member about two months ago. My watch guy (a second generation Omega dealer) took a look at the watch after I received it, the watch was ok by his standards. I'm not aware of any numbers being removed from the watch. I included all the paperwork I got with the watch. This was an honest deal with a remorseful buyer airing his sour grapes. I resent the statements that I lied, for all I know this watch was "damaged" after it was received by the buyer or these pics are of another watch entirely. I have never scammed a buyer at this forum or any other. I suggest the buyer seriously rethink any ideas about appearing at my home or around my family as he will be met with unfavorable results including handcuffs and a trip to the local jail. Due to the threatening tone of the buyers PM I was advised not to respond. Sorry you are unhappy, but everyone else with whom I have dealt has been satisfied. Your defamation and threats prevent me from contacting you via PM. I will post no more information regarding this matter. Pete

suitekids

July 15th, 2010 09:28

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Your reply, as pitiful as it is, has just confirmed you are a LIAR too, the three usually go together. LIAR, CHEAT, THIEF. I saved all of our correspondence, I would be glad to post them aswell, Sour grapes? You bet I do, you took almost 1300 of my money for a useless watch, under false pretenses. You know it. and I know it, and everyone I know will know it too. I send you PM's regarding this and you refused to answer, I gave you the chance to vinticate yourself and you refused, you kept the money and sold your integrity along with it. All you need to do is return the money and get your watch back and call it a day.

2BATTRANGER

July 16th, 2010 06:44


Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest This is just plain WRONG!!! Dude, you sold the man a STOLEN watch!!! Man up and give him his money back!!! And it woundn't hurt to give the watch back to the rightful owner too!!!:rodekaart <| :think:

suitekids

July 18th, 2010 16:17

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BATTRANGER (Post 3171976) This is just plain WRONG!!! Dude, you sold the man a STOLEN watch!!! Man up and give him his money back!!! And it woundn't hurt to give the watch back to the rightful owner too!!!:rodekaart <| :think:

Sums it up!!

Broker

July 19th, 2010 17:07

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayfaber (Post 3168475) I've been out of town for several days, so I will respond now. This watch came in on a trade from another WUS member about two months ago. My watch guy (a second generation Omega dealer) took a look at the watch after I received it, the watch was ok by his standards. I'm not aware of any numbers being removed from the watch. I included all the paperwork I got with the watch. This was an honest deal with a remorseful buyer airing his sour grapes. I resent the statements that I lied, for all I know this watch was "damaged" after it was received by the buyer or these pics are of another watch entirely. I have never scammed a buyer at this forum or any other. I suggest the buyer seriously rethink any ideas about appearing at my home or around my family as he will be met with unfavorable results including handcuffs and a trip to the local jail. Due to the threatening tone of the buyers PM I was advised not to respond. Sorry you are unhappy, but everyone else with whom I have dealt has been satisfied. Your defamation and threats prevent me from contacting you via PM. I will post no more information regarding this matter. Pete


I wouldn't post no more information regarding this matter either after I've screwed a guy out of $1300 and blamed him for it. Stay classy my friend. And this is the funniest part yet: Quote:

Your defamation and threats prevent me from contacting you via PM. Not really. All you have to do is hit the button to send a message.

suitekids

July 19th, 2010 22:37

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Due to the threatening tone of the buyers PM I was advised not to respond. Well I guess he asked for it again: this is the threatening PM I sent him. seems rather professional to me after getting screwed for 1300 quote to Kayfaber on July 6 2010 at 18:10

I'm a little dissapointed you didn't disclose every serial number there is on this watch has been ground off, the only way to authenticate is by the dial and rotor everything else has been removed and repolished, why didn't you mention this??? Nice looking watch but it's basicly worthless without any verification numbers. What do we do now?? I think you can do the right thing and refund my cash and I'll return the watch and I will keep my mouth shut about this unfortunate transaction. You could have let me know this upfront. A very dissapointed buyer. here it is 2 weeks after I wrote that "threatening PM" as he calls it, he still has not replied or resolved this matter, classy guy huh?

Uber

July 20th, 2010 15:52

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Funny how all the Photobucket pics of the watch have totally disappeared from the original post eh? Especially considering that his Photobucket pics posted in way earlier threads are still available... Suitekids....did you save all those pics on your HD? I have learned to take actual screenprints of the thread when I buy now....

Psychedelic Ranger Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

July 20th, 2010 20:43


kayfaber doesn't get it. o| His reputation is shot and he keeps opening his mouth. The only thing to do is give a full refund and take his bogus watch back.

suitekids

July 22nd, 2010 03:42

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Here is an Update, this fellow is a moderator on another forum, and never posted the watch forsale on his own forum, that's curious. All of the pics he deleted here are posted there, bragging about this watch, except the pic that shows the serial numbers and thats out of focus he is also here under another name aswell, It's Cannon from watchgeeks and he is a moderator there, Kayfaber & Cannon = same dude, beware peeps!!!

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