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JULY 2020

The Parish of Hythe St. John the Baptist St. Anne

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THE PARISH OF ST JOHN’S AND ST ANNE’S, HYTHE We are delighted that there has been some easing of lockdown restrictions. This has enabled us to open for individual private prayer on Wednesdays and Saturdays for the last two weeks. From 5 July we will be holding Sunday morning worship at 10:30am in St John’s. As numbers are restricted due to Social Distancing Restrictions we will be livestreaming this worship via Zoom so that all of our church members can come together virtually. We will continue to open for private prayer from 9am to 12pm on Wednesdays. Covid-19 restrictions will apply. Other acts of worship and our many other activities will continue via our church website and Facebook pages (see next page for screenshots). https://www.stjohnshythe.org/ https://www.facebook.com/stjohnshythe/ https://www.facebook.com/St-Johns-St-Annes-Youth172652072776655/ On the website, simply click on the ‘Coronavirus’ tab on the black bar and a new menu will appear. Jo is posting recordings of daily services of morning prayer and weekly Sunday services. These are on the ‘Recorded Services’ tab. Also on this menu you will find other useful resources related to the Coronavirus crisis. On Facebook, simply click on the relevant section to find out more. During the shutdown we have and continue to have a big reduction in our income. Every contribution will help. If you feel you can support us as we support you through our virtual groups, please may I ask you to donate as generously as you are able through the link to our online giving scheme: https://www.give.net/stjohnshythe/oneoff Alternatively you may donate via bank transfer or by cheque. Please contact office@stjohnshythe.org for details. Thank you!

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VICAR’S LETTER Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, This last month, as part of the Generous June initiative, we’ve been reflecting on God’s generosity to us and how we can respond to that. Our reflections have focused on Luke’s gospel and specifically on Jesus’ generosity to all those he encounters. This includes those who come to him because they like what he’s saying and want to know more, those who come to him with needs and those who oppose or challenge him. In one of the reflections on the Generous June website Amy Roche writes “Luke’s Gospel is characterised by things that Jesus says and does that surprise those whom he encounters. Jesus challenges their embedded assumptions regarding the Kingdom of God; what it is actually like, when and where it is experienced, and to whom it belongs?” Luke’s gospel when read in this way can make uncomfortable reading. Indeed, I would say that it should unsettle all of us, for none of us is perfect. The Black Lives Matter campaign has challenged us all to examine our assumptions towards others. We come to Jesus in order to be changed and to be transformed into his likeness. When we get things wrong his generous love forgives us. We don’t need to be defensive or try to justify our actions: we’re simply called to repent, to recognise when we’ve done things that are wrong, to say that we’re

VICAR’S LETTER sorry, to change our attitudes and to live in the way that Jesus did. If each of us was to do this not only would our lives be transformed - our whole world would be transformed.

Generosity isn’t only about our financial giving, although that’s part of our calling, it’s about our attitude towards others. It’s about having a generous spirit, of seeking the common good before having our own needs met. Whilst we may not always agree, it’s important that we listen to others and try to understand others’ points of view. Generosity of spirit requires us to examine our own reactions and to think about how our actions will impact on others. It also requires us to speak out when there’s injustice, when things are not in line with God’s will, as set out in the Ten Commandments and to listen to and follow the teaching of Christ. St. Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 13:3-7 3 If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it;[a] but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing. 4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5 or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6 It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. (NLT - New Living Translation). Amy Roche states that “The radical calling to Kingdom generosity; is not about measuring merit but following the counter-cultural calling as the people of God, to be characterised by the radical generosity we Images: Advanced Image search free to use

VICAR’S LETTER At the last supper Jesus says to his disciples “I am giving a new commandment to you now—love each other just as much as I love you. Your strong love for each other will prove to the world that you are my disciples.” (John 13:34-35 NLT). In response, let us all seek to live in this way so that through us God’s Kingdom will Come, and His will be done in each of us. Amen. With love in Christ


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OPENING OF CHURCH FOR THE OVER 70S: IMPORTANT NOTICE It is a blessing that the lockdown restrictions are beginning to be eased. However, we must all remember that the Coronavirus is still present and is still a serious risk to health and life. In view of this as we prepare to begin some worship in church we are having to restrict access to the building. With the Social Distancing measures the capacity for St. John’s is 25 worshippers which means that we are having to rota those who are permitted to attend under the current Covid-19 guidelines. The guidelines also state that if you have underlying health conditions or are over 70 years of age there should be only 4 reasons to be out of our home, which are: 1. To go to work 2. To go for a medical appointment 3. To go for your daily exercise 4. To go for essential shopping (please note the word essential.) There are some over 70s who have chosen not to follow the guidelines, however as a church we have a duty to protect you and others and would like to see all our church family back together, fit and well at the end of this pandemic. Therefore, until we are advised further, those in the above categories cannot be on the attendance rota. However, we're delighted that we will be live streaming our worship via Zoom, which means that although we can’t be together physically we can all be worshipping together spiritually. We'd love it if you could join us on Sundays at 10.30 from the safety of your homes.

Please e-mail: churchoffice@stjohnshythe.org if you would like us to send you the link to the service, giving your name and e-mail address. Rev Jo Elvidge Sue Blomley




REOPENING OF CHURCH BUILDINGS FOR PUBLIC WORSHIP Following the Government announcement that church buildings will be able to reopen for public worship from 4th July, providing physical distancing remains in place, the Bishop of London, Sarah Mullally, who leads the Church of England’s Recovery Group, said: "I welcome the Prime Minister’s announcement today that we will soon be able to begin to meet and worship together in our church buildings again.

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"The last three months have been an extraordinary time - the first period without public worship and the sacraments in England in more than 800 years. There will be real joy as we begin to come together again – if even at a physical distance – but I also know that many will be understandably cautious at this news. “We will not be returning to normality overnight - this is the next step on a journey. We’ve been planning carefully, making detailed advice available for parishes to enable them to prepare to hold services when it is safe and practical to do so. It is important to say that the change in Government guidance is permissive, not prescriptive. "I would particularly like to thank clergy and lay leaders for all they have done during the time our buildings have been closed. Not all church buildings will be ready to hold regular services from July 4th, but we are providing whatever support we can to enable them. “There will still be restrictions and we must all still do everything we can to limit the spread of the virus to protect each other, especially the most vulnerable. The online services and dial-in

REOPENING OF CHURCH BUILDINGS FOR PUBLIC WORSHIP worship offerings we have become used to will continue. “This has been an incredibly difficult time for the whole country, especially for those who have been ill, who have suffered financial hardship, the loss of livelihoods and indeed, for many, those they love. We know that is not over and the Church has a task ahead to bring consolation and hope. “Churches and cathedrals have risen to the recent challenges, finding new ways of meeting for worship, of serving our neighbours, and ©PrestonPics of reaching new people with the love of God. The challenge before us now is to take the next steps carefully and safely, without forgetting all that we’ve discovered about God and ourselves on the way.”

Guidance for parishes and cathedrals Detailed advice for parishes and cathedrals is available on the Church of England website. It will be updated, as necessary, in the coming days to reflect the detail of the Government guidance once published.

Weddings will be able to resume, along with other services. Updated advice for couples will be published on our website this week. The Church of England Recovery Group will also issue advice on subjects including singing and music for which a review by Public Health England is currently in progress. https://www.churchofengland.org/more/media-centre/news/ reopening-church-buildings-public-worship

MOTHERS’ UNION Our programme of meetings is postponed until we can meet in safety, we will contact members individually when we have a date. The first meeting back will be our AGM (postponed from July 9th) The good news is that the annual subscription will not be due until 2021. A prayer written by one of our members: Loving Lord, When this is over, may we never again take for granted a handshake with a stranger, full shelves at the shop, conversations with neighbours, a crowded theatre, a Friday night out, the taste of Communion, a routine check-up, the school rush each morning, coffee with a friend, the stadium roaring, each deep breath, a Boring Tuesday. Life itself. When this ends, may we find that we become more like the people we wanted to be, we were called to be, we hoped to be, and may we stay that way – better for each other, because of the worst. Amen

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POETRY CORNER ALWAYS WILLING My child, do not dwell in shades of night. I am never far away always ready to hear you when you're ready to pray.

I'm always willing to listen but you must be willing to speak your problems are all mine your burden I will take. Author Unknown


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FOOD FOR THOUGHT Leave God to order all your ways, And hope in Him, whatever betide; Thou’lt find Him in the evil days, Your all-sufficient Strength and Guide; Who trusts in God’s unchanging love, Builds on the rock that nothing can move. What can these anxious cares avail, These never-ceasing moans and sighs? What can it help us to bewail Each painful moment as it flies? Our cross and trials do but press The heavier for our bitterness.

Only your restless heart keep still, And wait in cheerful hope; content To take whatever His gracious will, His all-discerning love has sent. Doubt not our inmost wants are known To Him who chose us for His own. He knows when joyful hours are best, He sends them as He sees it meet; When you have borne the fiery test, And are made free from all deceit, He comes to you all unaware, And makes you own His loving care. Sing, pray, and swerve not from His ways, But do your own part faithfully, Trust His rich promises of grace, So shall they be fulfilled in you; God never yet forsook at need The soul that trusted Him indeed.

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Georg Christian Neumark (1621-1681) Translated by Catherine Winkworth (1829-1878)

PARISH OF HYTHE MONTHLY PRAYER LIST In July we pray especially for: Peter & Kate, Colin & Barbara, Kayleigh, Jenny, Anne, Debbie, Nancy, Colin, Jill, Gary and Phil B. We pray for everyone we know who is unwell, and we pray for those who have lost loved ones especially the family and friends of Lou. This month we pray especially for the end of inequality that exists in our world. May people understand that all lives matter. We pray for the continued containment of the Covid-19 Coronavirus, people infected by the virus and the families of virus victims. We also pray for people who are suffering financially. May our church family be united in our worship of God, in fellowship with one another, and in ministry to the community.


The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul. Johann Sebastian Bach

The glory of God shines, indeed in all creatures on high and below, but never more brightly than in the cross. John Calvin ©PrestonPics


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BIBLE READING FELLOWSHIP BIBLE READING FELLOWSHIP - What is it? Back in 1970 our Vicar, John Hobbs, said to me (in that pleasant tone vicars use for such requests) " I wonder if you could help me with a little job?” Thus I became, and have continued to be, our Parish Representative responsible for ordering and distributing the study notes produced by the Bible Reading Fellowship. This organisation was set up 90 years ago to help people connect with the Bible and to support churches as they seek to encourage regular Bible reading. These days the work has widened to provide other creative programmes and resources for individuals, churches and schools - for instance the popular ‘Messy Church' family events. The Bible notes provide four months of daily Bible readings and comment, with a regular team of contributors drawn from a range of church backgrounds. The notes are ideal for anyone wanting an accessible yet stimulating aid to spending time with God each day. We get a discount by being a parish group, making the present cost £14 for a year. In these sadly restricted times a new resource for home prayer and thought might be welcome, and I can provide a trial copy of the Notes for anyone thinking of becoming a regular subscriber. Just give me a call, and a sample can be delivered to you . (023 80842965 ) Pamela Gilson. https://www.brf.org.uk/

DAILY HOPE Daily Hope is a free national phone line offering a new way to bring worship and prayer into people’s homes while church buildings are closed because of the coronavirus. Daily Hope offers music, prayers and reflections as well as full worship services from the Church of England at the end of a telephone line. The line – which is available 24 hours a day on 0800 804 8044 – has been set up particularly with those unable to join online church services during the period of restrictions in mind.


ONE WORLD Primates and bishops in joint call against “environmental racism” Nine Anglican Communion Primates and a further 70 bishops – including a number of former Primates – have signed a joint letter drawing attention to “environmental racism”. In the open letter, organised by the Anglican Communion Environmental Network, the bishops highlight examples of where people of colour are disproportionately affected by the environmental crisis. “We call attention in particular to the impact of environmental racism on indigenous peoples decimated by the effects of colonisation”, they said. “Tribes of people were enslaved, and annihilated by harsh conditions and by diseases for which they had no immunity in the first decades of colonisation. Later Photos: Advanced Image search free to use indigenous groups such as the Taíno in what is now Haiti and the Dominican Republic were replaced by enslaved peoples from Africa. “From the Gwich’in in the Arctic Circle to the many tribes in the Amazon River Basin, indigenous people continue to be subjected to intense, sustained racism.

“Unjust economic structures and extractive industries subject indigenous peoples and traditional Black communities to forced, violent removal from lands with which they have been integrally connected for centuries. Prominent indigenous leaders – defenders of the land – from tribes such as the Guarani in Brazil, have been murdered and tribes terrorised.

ONE WORLD “For example in Panama, the Guna and Embera were granted land rights under the Comarcas (Reservation). However, land grabbers – non indigenous farmers – seize this land for their own farms, leading to escalating levels of violence from house burnings to murders.” The letter draws attention to the refugee crisis – much of it created by climate change; and adds: “in Central America thousands of indigenous people have been made climate refugees. Upon reaching the United States, they are often subjected to double discrimination, firstly for being refugees and then as people whose first language is a tribal language rather than Spanish. “Pacific Islanders in places such as Tonga and Fiji face the destruction of their homes and cultures due to sea level rise. “Even in the midst of the wealthiest countries Black people bear the brunt of environmental racism. Dumpsites for toxic chemicals are situated near poorer Black communities. These communities become food deserts – lacking both access to nutritious food and safe water.” The statement was released on 19 June (Friday) to coincide with what is known as Juneteenth in the US – a day marking the legal end of slavery. You can read it in English, Spanish, French and Portuguese on the ACEN website: acen.anglicancommunion.org.

THE LONG SILENCE At the end of time, billions of people were scattered on a great plain before God's throne. Most shrank back from the brilliant light before them, but some groups near the front talked heatedly - not with cringing shame, but with belligerence. "How can God judge us? How can he know about suffering?" snapped a young brunette. She ripped open a sleeve to reveal a tattooed number from a Nazi concentration camp. "We endured terror... beatings... torture... death!" In another group a black boy lowered his collar. "What about this?� he demanded, showing an ugly rope burn. "Lynched for no crime but being black! We have suffocated in slave ships, been wrenched from love ones, toiled till only death gave release." In another group, a young girl stared with sullen eyes. On her forehead was the stamp 'illegitimate'. "To endure my stigma," she murmured, "was beyond, beyond..." and her voice trailed off, to be taken up by others. Far out across the plain were hundred of such groups. Each had a complaint against God for the evil and suffering he permitted in his world. How lucky God was to live in heaven where all was sweetness and light, where there was no weeping, no fear, no hunger, no hatred. Indeed, what did God know of what man had been forced to endure in this world? After all, God leads a pretty sheltered life, they said. So, each of these groups sent forth a leader, chosen because he had suffered the most. There was a Jew, a black woman, an untouchable from India, an illegitimate person, someone deformed by arthritis, a person from Hiroshima, and one from a Russian gulag. In the centre of the plain they consulted with each other. At last, they were ready to present their case. It was quite simple. Before God would be qualified to be their judge, he must endure what they had endured. Their decision was that God should be sentenced to live on earth - as a man! But, because he was God, they set certain safeguards to be sure that he could not use his divine powers to help himself: Let him be born a Jew. Let

THE LONG SILENCE the legitimacy of his birth be doubted so that none will know who is his father. Give him work so difficult that even his family will think he is out of his mind when he tries to do it.

Let him try to describe what no other man has ever seen, tasted, heard or smelled. Let him try to describe God to man. Let him be betrayed by his dearest friends. Let him be indicted to false charges, tried before a prejudiced jury, convicted by a cowardly judge.

At last, let him see what it means to be terribly alone, completely abandoned by every living thing. Let him be tortured and beaten, and then let him die. Let him die so that there can be no doubt that he died. Let there be a great crowd to verify it. As each leader announced his portion of the sentence, loud murmurs of approval went up from the great throng of people assembled. When the last person had finished pronouncing sentence, there was a long silence.

Those who had spoken their judgement of God quietly departed. No one uttered a word. No one moved. For suddenly all knew. God had already served his sentence. A T L Armstrong (edited)


AN OBITUARY PRINTED IN THE TIMES Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as: • • • •

Knowing when to come in out of the rain. Why the early bird gets the worm. Life isn’t always fair. And maybe it was my fault.

Common sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don’t spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge). His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6 year old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted an abortion. Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense took a beating when you couldn’t defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault. Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to

AN OBITUARY PRINTED IN THE TIMES realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement. Common Sense was preceded in death... By his parents Truth and Trust, By his wife, Discretion, By his daughter Responsibility, And by his son, Reason. He is survived by his stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, I Want It Now Someone Else Is To Blame I’m A Victim Pay Me for Doing Nothing. Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.

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THOUGHTS DURING LOCKDOWN Just to be clear, the Church has not been closed, so it doesn’t need to be re-opened. We have simply stopped worshipping in our buildings for a time to protect the health and well-being of our people and our communities. The Church does not require a building in order to be the Church. What is required is love, compassion and the presence of God. Traffic has gone, fuel is affordable, bills extended. Children are at home with their families, parents are home taking care of their children. Fast food replaced by home cooked meals. Hectic schedules replaced by naps, rest and relaxation. The air is cleaner, the world is quieter. People are conscious about hygiene and health. Money doesn’t make the world go round anymore. Designer clothing is pointless and nobody ever really needed it. Doctors and nurses are being praised and recognised instead of celebrities. And we now have time, finally, to stop and smell the roses. Don’t forget to look up at the stars, our world is really amazing. Contributed by Sue Blomley HUMOUR CORNER •

I told my suitcases there will be no holidays this year. Now I’m dealing with emotional baggage.

Words of wisdom. Always give 100% in everything you do, except when giving blood!

I’ve been trying to sell my glue business for years. No luck. I guess I’m stuck with it.

We recently formed a rock band, we named it “The Marmalades.” We have our first jam session tomorrow.

ANGEL MAKING During this time of staying at home can I make a plea for people to make angels? Knitted or sewn are lovely, or angel shapes cut out of wood and painted, or shapes made out of wire, shells, etc. We had 620 last year by November. I’m trying to beat that for this year, if we’re able to give them out, if not we’ll have double for next year. If you need ideas or patterns just let me know. My number is at the front of the magazine. With many thanks, yours Sue

PARISH OF HYTHE ZOOM QUIZ Our parish Zoom quizzes started in May and will continue every fortnight on Saturdays at 7:30pm during lockdown. They last about 90 minutes and the questions are on a variety of topics. Here are some questions from the last quiz in June.

The next quiz will take place on Saturday 11 July. For more information and to be sent your Zoom invitation please contact me at philmex123@gmail.com Phil



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WHO’S WHO VICAR: Revd. Jo Elvidge (023 80845615) The Vicarage, 14 Atheling Road, Hythe SO45 6BR vicar@stjohnshythe.org LICENSED LAY MINISTER: Sue Blomley (023 80849482) sue.blomley@gmail.com CHURCHWARDENS: David Blomley (023 80849482) daveblomley@yahoo.co.uk Andy Pearce (023 80848540) andy.p22@hotmail.co.uk CHILDREN & FAMILIES MINISTRY COORDINATOR: Chris McMahon via Hall Office (023 80844336) families@stjohnshythe.org ST JOHN’S HALL: (023 80844336) office@stjohnshythe.org ‘CONTACT’ EDITORS: Phil & Catherine Preston (or contributions to the parish office) philmex123@gmail.com ADVERTISING: via Hall Office (023 80844336) office@stjohnshythe.org DISTRIBUTION: Maureen Curtis (023 80846861)

NOTE FROM THE EDITORS We hope you enjoy this issue of ‘Contact’: you are warmly invited to contribute items to the magazine. Contributions by the 14th of the month please!

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PARISH CONTACT NUMBERS Bible Reading Fellowship notes Pamela Gilson 80842965 Brass cleaning June Smith 80848201 Catering Coordinator Parish Office 80844336 Children & Families Ministry Coordinator Chris McMahon 80844336 Children's Society Trish Murphy 80893243 Choir Master & Organist Philip Dowd 80844336 Church Treasury Team Sue Harvey 80842333 Clergy Secretary Parish Office 80844336 Copyright Information Norman Curtis 80846861 Data Protection Officer Phil Preston 80844336 Electoral Roll Officer Shadia Aazar 07834820541 Fairs Committee Jill James 80847283 Gift Aid Secretary Martin Deadman 80849482 St John's Hall bookings Parish Office 80844336 Hythe2000 Management Geoff Read 80848748 Intercessions Ann Heslop 80842256 Julian Group Norman Curtis 80846861 Mothers' Union Committee Sue Harvey 80842333 One World Group June Smith 80848201 Parish Prayers Ann Heslop 80842256 Parish Visitors Coordinator Margot Lewis 80844336 P.C.C. Secretary Peter Lawson 80866794 Prayer Chain Margot Lewis 80844336 Sacristan & servers (St John's) Trish Murphy 80893243 Safeguarding Officer Catherine Preston 07377259012 St John's cleaning Parish Office 80844336 Sidespeople Roy German 80843198 Verger Team (Funeral & Weddings) Trish Murphy 80893243 Website enquiries Elizabeth Deadman 81782640

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'Contact' July 2020  

The parish magazine of St John's and St Anne's Hythe, Hampshire

'Contact' July 2020  

The parish magazine of St John's and St Anne's Hythe, Hampshire

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