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Manchester Learning Disability Partnership Board

College places for disabled people

Issue 25 • Free • Every two months July and August 2008

In this issue: Minutes of May Meeting w w w. p a r t n e r s h i p b o a r d . o r g



Meetings for 2008 Meetings start at 10:30am Tuesday 8 July Tuesday 9 September Tuesday 11 November The venue will be changing after the July meeting.

May Meeting Minutes from the last meeting Agreed the minutes from the last meeting were true. Matters arising Mark Burton said there has been a delay in the opening of the shared ownership scheme at Chatsworth Grove, in Whalley Range. But he hopes to sort out a visit in the next month for Partnership Board members. Mark said people should see him in the break if they want to come, or ring him on: 958 4014, or e-mail: Mark has asked the mortgage broker for the shared ownership scheme to give a presentation at a Partnership Board meeting. Update on transforming Adult Social Care Diane Eaton came to the meeting to give us what has gone on since she came to the last meeting. Diane said the ‘assessing your needs’ form has been tested with some customers.

There has been useful feedback about how to make the forms more person-centred. Sheila Dawber who is a Team Manager in one of the Community Learning Disability Teams will look at this. Bernie Woods said she is working with Sheila to try out the assessment form with two cases from Talbot House. All assessments will be done using these forms from 30 June 2008. A referral form will be put on the Council’s website. Diane said 67 learning disabled people have an Individual Budget, and more are getting them. Later this year customers will be asked about how best to describe the different types of Individual Budget. Everyone understands the term ‘cash budget’, but there is confusion over the terms ‘virtual budget’, and ‘individual service fund’. New homecare contracts have now been given and the Council is aiming for a smooth transfer of services for those customers who are affected. This will mainly affect older people and people with physical disabilities. The re-ablement service helps older people and people with physical disabilities get their independence back. Care managers have said this service could help learning disabled people. This is being looked into. Diane introduced Neela Mody, who has set up a group to review information, in light of changes to Adult Social Care.

Neela needs volunteers to test customer access to the website and look at other items of customer information. Stephen Hughes and Delia Murphy said they would help. Diane wants examples of positive experiences of using social care services and Individual Budgets, so they can be publicised in the local media and the Council’s publications.


Anyone who has a positive message, and wants to promote it, can contact Diane or Neela: Diane Eaton: phone 234-3909, e-mail Neela Mody: phone 234-6367 e-mail Learning and Skills Council funding for college Susan Heyes and Sandra Blackmore came to the meeting on behalf of the Learning and Skills Council. Susan explained that she is a Partnership Manager for the Learning and Skills Council. They fund further education colleges, sixth form colleges and adult learning. This is usually for learners aged from 16 – 25 years. Susan reported that Mancat and City College are merging to form the new Manchester College in August. Once Manchester College is up and running it would be worth getting a representative to talk to the Partnership Board about college placements. Delia Murphy said she has good links with the social care tutors at City College. Susan said these staff would stay in their jobs. Susan explained that the government has cut further education funding by 25%, which will have an effect on additional learning support budgets in colleges.


The following issues were raised: Bernie was concerned about cuts in specialist support. Richard Hughes queried the effect this may have on the support role that Mencap provide in colleges. Paul Brannick asked why some classes are run in the evening rather than during the day. Susan said this is the responsibility of the colleges. Ros Nesbit raised concern about her daughter not having a place at college after the age of 30.

Councllor Curley said the government wants to have less people needing benefits and have more education and employment. He said he is happy to lobby Manchester MPs on the issue of additional learning support. Mark Burton asked about independent learning assessments. Susan said she did not have the detail, but she would look into this and get back to Mark. Sandra Blackmore said she works for the Learning and Skills Council’s regional team in Manchester, who give funding to individual learners at specialist colleges. Sandra said the government’s plans focuses on local college places, rather than out of area placements. The aim is to move on from education to work. There is some funding for learning support from European Social Fund and Invest to Change. Referrals for funding of individuals at specialist colleges are made to the Learning and Skills Council by Connexions and the Council. The Learning and Skills Council hold a placement meeting, and make their decision based on the funding criteria. The funding criteria looks to see if needs can be met locally, the individual’s needs for a residential placement and their medical and care needs. The yearly cost of a placement at a specialist college can be £68,000. This year there have been 30 requests for placements at specialist colleges. People who meet the criteria will have all of their costs paid for. People who are refused a place have the right to make their case to an independent appeal panel. There are 7 specialist colleges in the North West. The Learning and Skills Council is responsible for checking quality of service and getting feedback from students.



Members of the board said they were concerned about local courses being cut. Councillor Curley said the Partnership Board was concerned that learning disabled people get fair access to education. Sandra and Susan said that, despite some reduction in funding, the Learning and Skills Council is working hard to meet needs. Employment figures update Denise presented the current employment figures to the Partnership Board, and said updated figures will by presented 2 times a year. Since October last year there has been an increase in the number of people in employment from 191 to 201 people. There has been an increase in the number of people doing paid work from 53 to 73. Denise said the system for collecting information about people in employment has got better. Loreto College and Manchester Learning Disability Partnership have helped to increase the numbers in paid employment since October 2007. Stephen Hughes said that when Manchester People First’s service audit assistants often speak to learning disabled people who want a job. Crimes against disabled people Sergeant Kate Crompton from Greater Manchester Police, came to the meeting to speak to members about hate crime against disabled people. Kate works in Diversity Command and is responsible for the Police’s Hate Crime Policy, which was re-launched in August. Kate said how the Police define a hate incident. Some hate incidents are criminal offences, and are known as hate crimes. Incidents and crimes are classed as hate-related if the victim has been targeted for one or more of the following reasons: disability, gender, race, religion or sexual orientation.

The Police can take hate crime cases to court, if there is enough evidence. Information was given to members about how to report a hate incident or crime, and the action the Police will take. The Police will always listen to what the victim wants to happen, and can support victims if cases go to court. Kate brought an example of the True Vision self-reporting pack that will be launched soon. This pack is for people who want to report a disability-related hate incident or crime. The Partnership Board can help distribute the packs, colleges would also be a useful route for distribution. Theresa Hunt said there are training issues for care staff. Richard Hughes said some people were afraid of revenge, if they reported a hate incident. Rob Riley said he was concerned about people being put under pressure to testify in court. Kate said Police Officers have had training about how to handle hate incidents and crimes, and that newly recruited Officers also get training. Disability sports programme This will be looked at in a future meeting as Nicky Boothroyd was unable to come and give her presentation.

Health and wellbeing conference Stephen Hughes agreed that this item could be looked at in the next meeting. Any other business Partnership Board venue People First are moving to a new office, so the venue for the Partnership Board meeting will change after the next meeting. Details of the new venue will be provided to members in time for the meeting in September.


Government consultation on care and support The Government wants people’s views on how the existing care and support system can meet future challenges. They have set out the issues in a consultation paper called ‘The Case for Change – Why England Needs a New Care and Support System’. The consultation period runs until November 2008. Members who want to take part in the consultation can find information on the Department of Health website at: Publications/PublicationsPolicyAndGuidance/DH_084725

Review and planning day This event is being held on Thursday 12 June 2008 at the Mechanics Institute, Princess Street, Manchester, from 10am to 3pm. Members have already been sent invitation to this event, and were reminded to book their places by 2 June. To book, ring Gill Parkinson on 434-7316, or email Goodbye Riz Hussain said he is moving to another job after the next Partnership Board meeting. He will be replaced by Lee Morgan from the Supporting People team. Jobs fair for disabled people Richard Hughes reminded members that the Council is holding the above event on Thursday 22 May from 11am – 4pm in the Great Hall at the Town Hall.


Date of the next meeting Tuesday 8 July 2008, 10:30am at Manchester People First, Unit 21, Wilsons Park Business Centre, Monsall Road, Manchester, M40 8WN. Together is produced for the Partnership Board by Manchester People First and is printed by Trinity Press.

Together issue 25  
Together issue 25  

Manchester Learning Disability Partnership Board newsletter July and August 2008