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George: Attack in black? Dallas: I think JohnnyTruant is gonna take the cake. George: I would love to tour with Torch! Wade: I‘d like to tour with The Bronx. Dallas: Yeah, Torch and The Bronx ... what is there more to say? If you could walk in another person‘s shoes for one day who would it be and what would you do? Dallas: Chris Steel, our bassist because he‘s a psychopath and I would like to know what it‘s like to be in his mind. Wade: Yes, me too. I think everybody would say that, he is a very special guy. Where do you see yourself in let‘s say 20 years? Will you still make music or rather settle down and have a family life? Dallas: I‘d like to be settled down, I‘d like to have a family and I‘d like to be playing guitar on a porch in twenty years...and not worrying about this stupid music business. It sucks. Wade: I agree. Outspoken Magazine deals with hardcore music in the first place, so I would like to know what you think about hardcore as a genre but also as a lifestyle. Dallas: I hate both of them! I think hardcore lifestyle is ridiculous. I mean most lifestyles are pretty messed up. What about you just live the way you want to live and that‘s cool? Following rules of the scene or live in that way, its just... Wade: I think it‘s something that‘s very, very attractive when you are younger. You know, the reason we all dropped into hardcore/ hardcore scenes and started to go to all those shows was because you thought there were the minding people. You thought they were something different and maybe that the people you could meet there were more intelligent then the kids around the high school. I wouldn‘t know George, I wouldn‘t know Dallas if I hadn‘t gone to these shows when I was young. But the more you spend time around it, the more you realize that people are just as closed-minded or even more closed-minded then probably the people that are on the football team of the high school. You know, there is a band called Haymaker, they are a hardcore band that has nothing to do with anything except for hating everything and tattoos. They got a song called “Love the music,
hate the kids” and that kind of sums it up if you just keep to spend a lot of time around it. I love hardcore music, I love punk rock music, I love all the people I have met there...but having ideas that Ian MacKaye wrote down in the 70es, when I was 16, dictate my life?! It doesn‘t make any fucking sense! George: I think of what people would do for their ideology but I think an important part of growing up in some sort of rebellious music is eventually recognizing how soft-headed you can be at times. Ultimately it‘s not like „ Punk is gonna save the world“ or anything like that. You just kind of grow up and maybe you stop wearing those pins on your jacket and start exploring other types of music. Wade: It doesn‘t mean you necessarily care about it any less. If I didn‘t care about it as much as I ever have, I wouldn‘t buy all those records and stay on top with new bands that are coming out... you just look at it in a different way. George: It‘s just like a ball rolling, I makes you think about some things. But when you get older and you don‘t want to take your ideology from the Dead Kennedys anymore, maybe you wanna take it from another band. When you try to figure out in what you‘re believing punk can get you