INGA GUZYTE JON KOOLEY KEITH HAINES MATT WIER JONAS JUNGBLUT NITRO NIGHTSHIFT Kayaking the Pacific, making sculptures out of skateboards, surfing in the desert of Arabia, talking about life AND TATTOOS, talking about snowboarding and L1 outerwear, PICTURES THAT NEVER SLEEP
photo: Jonas Jungblut
photo + responsibility: Jonas Jungblut
IN THIS ISSUE ...
INGA GUZYTE - Skateboard artist
JON KOOLEY - L1 outerwear mastermind
KAYAK - go beyond!
NITRO NIGHTSHIFT - by lorenz holder
WADI - Desert surf
keith hanes - his blood is ink
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POLARIZATION DOES NOT WORK HERE In a conversation with Keith Haines (read it a few pages down from this) we talked about polarization of society as an effect from engaging online. The hypothesis is that we simply find other people who share our interests online and socialize with them instead of our community neighbors, who most likely have other interests than us. We aren’t exposed to as much random human behavior, and approaches to solving life’s riddles, anymore because we choose to pay attention only to the doings of people who have the same ideologies and interests. We are creating all these polarized sub groups who aren’t bound by a physical location, more likely they are separated by hundreds or thousands of miles. Much thinking about this later I came to a different hypothesis. Might it be the opposite of polarization? Are we heading towards an increase in tolerance? Let’s say there is a group of people socializing online who are into growing their own vegetables. They all hate Monsanto, compost and believe in humans having a direct impact on the global climate. But one of them likes vintage, European race cars. And he has a few of them, which he races on the weekends. And another smokes. Yet another wanted to save money on gas and put a lawnmower engine on his bicycle, no exhaust, which is about as backwards of an undertaking as they come, taking a zero emission vehicle which keeps you healthy by working you out and making it a polluter that you just sit your fat ass on. When racer dude posts pictures of himself burning rubber online all the other people in his group are exposed to it. Polarization does not work here. People are to unique to find groups in which they don’t end up bumping into resistance rather quickly. Interacting online actually demands tolerance! We leave so much information about ourselves online for everyone to see that anyone can find something about
anybody else which they will disagree with. Your best buddy turns out to “like” a product that you consider complete garbage for example. The difference between online and real-life interaction is that one has no control over what other people research about. The information about us is there without a filter. While you might not share your appreciation for energy drinks in a conversation with a person you admire at a fund raiser for the Green Party, your “liking” of the energy drinks facebook page is impossible to hide. So instead of the future being dominated by polarized splinter groups I wonder if we all are going to have to be a lot more tolerant to what people do and “like”. Staying away from online interaction might be more polarizing than engaging in it!
PBSP // INGA GUZYTE
interview by Jonas Jungblut photography by Inga Guzyte / Catrin Hedström
Inga Guzyte is a sculptress working with used skateboards. Having been in skateboarding since her teens, recycling broken boards into sculptures made a lot of sense. Relying on the skateboarding community to supply her with materials Inga sculpts beautiful pieces that blend a street art style and white box type work. We love it and if you do too visit her virtually at: IngaGuzyte. com Where is home and how much time do you spend there? For now I shall call Switzerland my home because my family lives there and I do spend quite a lot of time there but not enough to get attached. I moved several times growing up to different countries so I feel comfortable in many places. You travel a lot. How do you find materials and space to work when you enter a new environment? In fact, I like to go to a new place/city and set up a little workshop where I can make sculptures. Every time I do it, its new, different and challenging. Starting all over again is not the most comfortable feeling but the experience is worth it in the end. Usually I look for local wood shops, cause they mostly have the tools and big machines I need and my material I collect through skate shops and skaters. I still go out there in person and ask skaters if they have some old decks for me. I made a lot of good friends that way. You spend time in Europe and the U.S. What would you like to see each continent adopt from the other? Well, I think it would be nice to have a whole bunch more warmer days in Europe. I really appreciate the fact that I didn’t have to worry about the weather in Santa Barbara, while making my sculptures. In Europe on the other hand it’s really cold during the winter time at my studio, so I have to help myself with a little fire place. But it is a really neat studio space, quite charming, old and unique in the middle of Zurich. What I really enjoyed having in Europe were the on time lunch and tea breaks with my woodworker friends, where you leave your work
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behind and only concentrate on chatting and enjoying your meal. How long have you been involved in skateboarding? I can say, skateboarding has been watching over me since I was 17 years old. It’s quite late to start out with skateboarding but it was enough time to fall into the dwell of eternal youth, for sure! Do you perceive differences in skateboarding between the U.S. and Europe? I don’t think there is much of a difference between the U.S. and Europe but what I could perceive is this: Everywhere you go you see great skaters only in Europe skateboarding seems to be a little more special than in the U.S. Skaters in Europe still tend to keep their old decks as a good memory but inthe U.S. skateboarding seems such a common thing to do. The weather differs of course, so there is less skateboarding going on during the winter time in Europe. To overcome the cold days most of the skaters are shredding the skate halls. How much and what kind of skating do you do at this point in time? I started out with a regular board and stick with it until this day. I always enjoyed meeting my skater friends at our special skate spots. Not only the skateboarding was fun but also the feeling of belonging was great. All in all, good times. These days I don’t skate as much anymore but every time I do it is very special to me. Do you work with other materials/media? Until now my main media has been old/used skateboard decks. Sometimes, I do add spray paint in form of stencil or some pen drawing to the sculptures. I did a little experiment with sequins in Vienna during my artist in residence program and that turned out great. But I also have other ideas for the future, that include metals and other materials. You said you don’t want to be a full-time fine artist, what do you do full-time or want to get into? In fact, I would like to be a full-time fine artist and I see myself as a fine artist, but I think it’s important to be open for other media as well, it’s good for your creative
flow and of course your wallet. Mixing media is one of my favorite things to do. So I intend to continue doing more and learning more in graphic design and motion graphics field. What is important to you in life? I think, to me it is important to find the one true thing I love doing and be happy with it but never stop progressing. What is your position on social media and technology in general and how it influences society? How do you use it? I believe the social media makes you who you are, it is hard to exist without it as an artist and it is hard to not be a part of it. So of course I am just a little puzzle part of the social media and I share my work with others over diverse social media websites as well as my own website: ingaguzyte.com. I think it is important to share new work and ideas with the world. It’s a give and take. Perhaps the words LOVE, CREATE, INSPIRE describe it best. Considering all the factors like climate, cost of living, culture, community, politics, etc, where on this planet can you see yourself living permanently? To be honest, I don’t think I found the perfect place for myself yet... but I orient myself after people, weather and the character of the city/place. For instance, Barcelona and NYC are some of my favorite places to be. Would you settle on Mars and explore if given the opportunity? After I explored all cities on earth, I would! :)
To be honest, I donâ€™t think I found the perfect place for myself yet ...
PBSP // NITRO NIGHTSHIFT
NITRO NIGHTSHIFT Nightshift is selection of my work that was shoot after the normal snowboarder was done with his day. Every picture was taken in the night between sunset and 5 oâ€™clock in the morning. Shooting in the night is just pure magic - the silence, the cold, the lonlyness, the fact that you might be caught by authorities - all of those things make shooting in the night special. As a photographer you also have a lot of more dimensions you can work with. You can on one hand highlight things with flashes and on the other hand leave some parts of the picture in the dark and make them invisible. This gives you a pretty cool tool to show places in a totaly different way, that nobody sees like you see it. I just love to show places that people know in a new way. When it comes to selecting spots, shooting at night also has a lot of advantages, because there are just no people. So you can ride and shoot preaty much everywhere you want to. Sometimes you get caught by landlords and house owners or just by peolple who want to make themselves important, than most of the time the session is over - so you always try to be as silent as possible. For me, working in the nightshift is just pure magic and my passion. Lorenz Holder
Rider: Marco Smolla Trick: Method Air Location: Leogang - Austria
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Rider: Xaver Hoffmann Trick: Air to fakie Location: Raisting - Germany
Rider: Basti Rittig Trick: 5-0 Location: Ume책 - Sweden
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Rider: Dominik Wagner Trick: Laybackslide Location: Ume책 - Sweden
Rider: Knut Eliassen Trick: Method Air Location: Ruka - Finland
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Rider: Basti Rittig Trick: Wallride Location: Ume책 - Sweden
Rider: Benny Urban Trick: 5050 Location: Ume책 - Sweden
Watch out for Markusâ€™s upcoming Movie
PBSP // JON KOOLEY
JON KOOLEY INTERVIEWED AT THE SALTON SEA IN CALIFORNIA DURING A PHOTOSHOOT FOR L1 OUTERWEAR. INTERVIEW AND PHOTOGRAPHY BY JONAS JUNGBLUT & BOB PLUMB.
JJ: Where are you based and why? JK: I live in Salt Lake City. I moved there probably 14 years ago to snowboard. And now I’m designing outerwear for L1. JJ: How old were you when you got into snowboarding. What circumstances brought you into snowboarding? JK: I moved from Germany and I skated a little bit when I lived in Germany. And when I moved to Alaska it was winter so there was snow on the ground so you couldn’t skate year round. I had some friends I met snowboarding so I was like uh kind of looks like skating so… JJ: How old were you when you moved from Germany? Were you born in Germany? JK: No, I was born in Portland. Then I moved to Germany when I was like 4. And then I moved to Alaska when I was in 6th grade. How old are you then, like 12 or something. JJ: So you moved around quite a bit. JK: Yeah. My dad was in the military. JJ: Oh okay, I see. Cool, so you came from skateboarding and transferred over into snowboarding. And what happened there. You were pretty successful in that route. How did that all work out? JK: I have no idea. I think it was, … honestly I think it’s just I never was trying to be a pro snowboarder. I didn’t move to Salt Lake with the intention of being a professional snowboarder, I moved because I wasn’t ready for college
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yet, and my friends were. One of them was going to school and one of them just wanted to go there to snowboard, because we saw the magazines and every photo was Brighton backcountry so we thought, aw that’ll be awesome. We’ll go, we’ll move to Salt Lake with our buddy Adam. He’s going to school and we’ll snowboard everyday at Brighton. And I was like I’ll take the winter off because I went to the first semester of college, and then I was like I’ll take the fall semester off, then go back, in the uh, next summer.
JJ: Yeah so tell me about that transition. That’s always a big thing for athletes, they have their good years and then it’s figuring out what to do after. And it sounds like you’re kind of at that transitional point right now, right?
JJ: How did you turn pro?
JK: Yeah, with snowboarding in general. For my video parts, for all the companies I rode for I was always very opinionated about what I feel like we should do. And I was very fortunate to get on L1 because they listened to that, you know? I was able to send in pretty crude designs of outerwear that I wanted. And they gave me the opportunity to do signature outerwear, which was pretty cool. And I got to basically have full control over what I got, which was awesome. And I think that was just the foundation for my new job. I was just always given that input. And I had some design experience just through that. Not fully, I had to learn it.
JK: Um, it was just pure luck. One of my friends called, it’s kind of a long story. JJ: Maybe you can give me a quick, you know overview. JK: Uh, it was just circumstance I think because I got on K2 and they switched team managers. One of my friends got me on K2 and then he put me in touch with a photographer, um, Kevin Zacher. JJ: Okay, I know Kevin. JK: Yeah, he was the staff photographer for K2 at the time, and he went and shot photos of me. At that point I was doing this trick that everybody does now, it’s a front blunt on a snowboard. But I was doing that before anyone. It wasn’t done. You know? But I didn’t even know what I was, I was just like yeah, like a front board, on a snowboard, if I can do a front board I can probably do a front blunt. But anyway, Zacher shot that photo and showed it to Mikey LeBlanc and he was like this is crazy! We gotta get this kid out with us. So I went and filmed a couple shots that year for Kingpin. I think it was Happy Hour. Yeah, I don’t know what year that was, it was a long time ago. But uh, it just happened from there it was like we did Shake Noon and I think once you are in MacDawg it’s just a solidified deal. JJ: Are you still riding? Or what’s your snowboarding look like at this point? JK: Uh, well, I snowboarded a lot last year. Or not this past winter but the year before I still filmed um and design the outerwear.
JK: I think it happened. Transition is complete. JJ: You’ve always been involved with L1 (outerwear) from day 1.
JJ: So you had a successful transition to a job in the industry without getting left behind. JK: Yeah, I got lucky. JJ: I mean there are a lot of people who don’t do this, right? Who kind of get stranded a little bit. JK: Yeah, well you just think like, I mean you sign your contracts year to year basically. And then when you’re done it’s just a very aggressive cut, you know. And I wasn’t done yet. But, uh, I came into the meeting after Mike Dawson left. I came into one of the meetings in Salt Lake and I had my designs that I usually like and I’m like, “who do I give these to?” And Sepp’s like: “Well, you want a job?” JJ: What else do you dedicate time to in your life, besides the whole snowboarding grand realm of, you know, snowboarding? JK: Uh, ah man I have three dogs. I love my dogs, I play guitar a lot. I used to draw and paint for fun. But now that I do it for work it’s not really like, I don’t really do it for fun anymore. I skate a lot. That’s my only exercise.
JJ: I mean, are you competing at this point? JK: I still go up to the resort and take runs and try and take photos and stuff. But, um, I have a job now.
JJ: Street skating or downhill skating or…? JK: I usually skate parks. I’m too old for street skating.
JJ: What do you think is important in life? What’s important to you? JK: I feel like for me, the most important thing is doing something that makes you happy, and you feel rewarded, you know? Something you feel, uh, self-satisfaction from. And I
got that with skateboarding because I had a video part every year. And now I’m essentially getting the same thing where you have a finished product at the end of the year. And you’re like: This is 2014. This is what I did that year. So I have an entire line, where I’m like this is what I did. So, it’s nice.
I love my dogs, I play guitar a lot. I used to draw and paint for fun.
PBSP // WADI ADVENTURE
WADI ADVENTURE TEXT AND PHOTOGRAPHY BY MATT WIER
I first learned of Wadi Adventure last year after seeing the Electric Blue Heaven video featuring Dion Agius absolutely annihilating what looked like a super fun beach break with a series of mind boggling airs and the occasional whip-lash inducing turn. However, the video wasn’t filmed at a beach break… or even the ocean. Wadi Adventure is a wave pool located on the eastern edge of the Arabian Desert in Al Ain, about a two hours’ drive from both Dubai and Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates. While considered one of the more Westernized countries in the Middle East, it is still uncommon to see women driving, the government controls telephone and internet communications, blocking many websites and services such as Skype, and you will definitely not find any pork. And even though the U.A.E. boarders the Persian Gulf, it is not a country you would expect to find any surf. The first week of June I was scheduled for a 12-day trip to Abu Dhabi (my second journey to the Middle East in 2 months) to assist on a shoot at a new hotel. I had been traveling nearly non-stop for the last 6 months
assisting a hotel photographer at over a dozen different luxury properties around the world tucked into several incredible locations - Bora Bora, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia to name a few. However, being away working in these faraway lands had left little time for me to get in the water at my favorite home breaks in Santa Barbara, CA. I was incessantly looking to go for a surf any chance I had, no matter where it was or what the conditions were like. Not wanting to miss the opportunity to visit Wadi Adventure, I did my best to find a break in our work schedule that would allow enough time to drive the 4 hours round trip to Al Ain and fit in at least a couple hours of surfing. That day came just one day before we were scheduled to leave, and lined up perfectly with scheduling availability at the wave pool. After booking my surf slots I spent every free minute I had obtaining a rental car and planning my trip to Al Ain. The two hour drive passes through a large portion of desert containing
sand dunes. Using online maps, I found a road just off the main freeway that extended about 20km straight into the desert, away from the safety of the highway. Desiring a truly Middle Eastern experience, I planned on spending a couple hours of the early morning exploring this area and taking photos before continuing to Wadi Adventure. I departed the hotel around 5am with a pair of swim trunks, my camera gear, and an assortment of mini bar snacks. The first 30 minutes of my journey were spent watching inquisitively as tremendous pieces of architecture rolled by. Structures such as the Etihad Towers and the Sheikh Zayed Grand Mosque seemed to rise from the sand like pieces of art standing in a museum viewing room. As my driving route led me out of Abu Dhabi, I stared straight ahead into the burnt orange land and sky, which seemed to blend into one. I admired its eerie beauty while my car radio scanned through local stations discovering a wide mix
of Arab music I had never heard before and couldnâ€™t understand, but enjoyed. An hour into the drive I arrived at the turnoff for my detour into the desert and headed straight into the barren landscape. Dozens of dunes began to rise up on either side of the well-paved road as I drove further from the main highway. Two camel farmers offered a friendly wave as I hopped out of my car to snap some photos. I followed the road a few more miles and eventually the sand began to cover the asphalt, seemingly signaling the end of civilization and the beginning of the wide empty Arabian desert. I took a moment to inhale the emptiness and loneliness surrounding me as the sun began to swing higher into the hazy orange sky. After snapping a few more photos I made my way back towards the main highway and set off for Al Ain. In contrast to the flat desert terrain that constituted my drive from Abu Dhabi, Al Ain is located near the boarder between the United Arab Emirates and Oman and is home to Jebel Hafeet, one of the largest mountains in the Middle East. Built into the mountain is Jebel Hafeet
PBSP // WADI ADVENTURE
Mountain Road, often considered one of the greatest driving roads in the world. Its’ 7.3 miles of track are perfectly smooth and offer a series of turns that will lead any driver to believe they are on some sort of closed professional race course. I still had an hour to kill before Wadi Adventure opened when I arrived in Al Ain, so I took my trusty Mazda rental car for a run up the mountain. While I’m not quite sure I set any sort of speed records, navigating the road’s incredible twists was a welcome surprise to the trip and I’m certain I left a bit more tire rubber on the road than the rental car company would care to know. After stopping at the top of the road at an elevation over 4,000 feet I attempted to make out a view of the city through the heavy desert haze and then headed down towards Wadi Adventure. I pulled into Wadi’s large, somewhat empty parking lot just as they were about to open at 10am. Wadi Adventure books surf sessions in one hour blocks, with six slots for surfers available in each hour. When calling to reserve my surfing slots I was told that the first two sessions of the day were fully booked so I planned on surfing at 12 and 1pm. However, thanks to a chance meeting with Mark, a friendly South African surfer who had booked both of the morning sessions to himself and invited me to join, I was able to spend four continuous hours in the pool doing what every surfer dreams: surfing perfect, consistent waves in warm water without any crowd. After checking in and paying I walked into the park and directly in front of me lay the pool. It looked like a glimmering turquoise desert oasis. It’s glassy, sparkling aqua color appeared surreal against the desert hills that sit behind the park. As I began to walk towards the board checkout area I heard a low thud sound. All of a sudden a perfect shoulder-high right hand wave began to rise from the pool. My walk turned into a run as I rushed to choose my board from the park’s quiver of foam and fiberglass sticks. I frantically applied some wax to my board of choice and ran towards the pool as another thud echoed through the park and yet another perfect wave arose. Paddling into the warm water was a welcome feeling compared to the dry desert air I had been in for the past 10 days. As I got into position against the concrete wall of the pool I felt a sense of excitement I hadn’t felt in quite a long time, like a ten year old on Christmas Eve. After sitting anxiously for a few seconds I heard the now familiar thud sound and turned to look behind me. The wave quickly began to form only 15 feet away as I started to paddle. As it approached I looked down
the line just before standing up and couldn’t believe the perfect section that lay ahead. I cut a narrow bottom turn and was surprised at the natural-feeling power the wave posessed. A few small and modest turns later, the wave began to shrink in size as it moved into the concrete beach. I hopped out the back and couldn’t help to contain my smile as I paddled out towards Mark, the only other surfer in the water for hundreds of miles. The next four hours were spent doing the exact same thing. Surfing a perfect wave over and over and over again. I imagine I surfed nearly 100 waves that day, giving me the opportunity to focus and work on aspects of my surfing I would forget to spend time on while surfing in the ocean. The friendly Wadi Adventure staff are able to change the wave type and size every 30 minutes, you simply discuss with the others in the pool what everyone feels like surfing. The pool’s pumps are able to create a left, right, closeout, and A-frame with size options ranging from 1-8, although for general use only sizes 1-5 are allowed. As a goofy footer, I spent much of the day going left, and had a blast experimenting with different turns on the powerful closeout wave setting. The wave is punchy enough to do aerials and also barrels on the A-frame setting if the pump is stopped for 10 minutes to allow time for the pool to glass off. If you are ever in the U.A.E. I highly recommend taking the time to discover the pool. Be sure to book ahead of time as surfing slots book quickly. Each hour of surfing is 100AED along with a 100AED park entry fee. Renting a car is inexpensive and gas is the cheapest in the world. But despite the low cost of the trip, it is an experience that any surfer will consider truly priceless.
It is an experience that any surfer will consider truly priceless.
PBSP // OCEAN LIFE
OCEAN LIFE PHOTOGRAPHY BY MATT WIER
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PBSP // GAVIOTA TO SANTA BARBARA, IN A KAYAK
GAVIOTA TO SANTA BARBARA, IN A KAYAK
PBSP // GAVIOTA TO SANTA BARBARA, IN A KAYAK
PHOTOGRAPHY AND TEXT BY JONAS JUNGBLUT
A couple months back I came up with the idea to kayak from Gaviota, CA south to Santa Barbara. This journey is about 18.5 miles long. I have ocean kayaked before but mostly in the Caribbean. I don’t own a kayak or have extensive sailing (how to not drown in the ocean) knowledge. I had no idea if this was a pretty doable distance or if it was ridiculously far.I did a little research and most sources agreed that even for an experienced kayaker this would be a long day. Nobody seemed to think it was impossible, though, just a lot of raised eyebrows. I decided to go for it. I did not want to go by myself though, so I found a friend, Kevin, who, it turns out, had even less experience with kayaks, or the ocean in general. This just added to the challenge. I knew that the winds usually blow down the coast and that the currents also favor this direction, thats about as much preparation we applied. We left Santa Barbara at 6:15 AM and dropped off my high performance Volkswagen Van at a public parking lot by the Bacara resort. It was a bit chilly and breezy, enough to raise the adrenaline level a little but not to get worried. The weather had checked out to be in our favor all day and we were in good spirits. Our driver’s lifted Tacoma drifted a little from heavy off shore winds right before pulling off the 101 to go into Gaviota State Beach, where we would launch the kayaks and we did get a little worried. The one thing I was afraid of, besides stories of great whites biting into kayaks up here, was off-shore winds. Floating on the oceans surface in a kayak, wind is a big deal, I knew that. When the winds blow off-shore enough a kayak gets pushed out to sea faster than anyone can paddle against it. The guy I bor-
rowed my kayak from told me that there had been a casualty at this very spot due to off-shore winds and the kayaker was very experienced. When we got out of the car the wind blew so hard it ripped the door out of my hand. Gaviota State Beach is located at the bottom of a canyon and winds get channeled through this canyon resulting in wind speeds beyond comfortable. It was cold, too. I looked up at the train bridge hovering high above us and tried to not let the elements get the best of me. We unpacked the car and loaded up the kayaks and I realized that I had forgotten the water at home. BIG BUMMER! There wasn’t a store within 10 miles of us and there was no way that we could do this without water. Classic train wreck. Shanti, our driver, and I hopped back in the truck and drove to Buellton to buy water. So stupid, but there was no way around it. When we pulled back into the parking lot under the train bridge, the winds were still blowing hard. It was time to get this show on the road. We carried the kayaks south a little in order to get shelter from the wind by the cliff that shoots up right away and stands firm for most of the central coast. Kevin got in the water first, I stayed behind to take photos of him. This was the second time he had ever been on a kayak and even though he timed it pretty well he got hit by a wave pretty good and went in the water. I was entertained, mostly driven by excitement to finally get going. He eventually made it beyond the breakers and was cruising. I carried my kayak a few feet further south to paddle out in the channel between the point where waves were braking. While Kevin had a dry bag and nothing on him that couldn’t get wet, I had all my photo gear and the food on my kayak. If I dumped my kayak
over it would be bad news. I made it out fine and we were going. Kevin’s kayak did not have a seat. This means he had no back support. Any ocean kayakers who read this will at this point finally conclude that we deserve to get eaten by a gray guy or get pushed out to sea. Even a short distance without a seat is painful, but almost 19 miles? Kevin had issues keeping the kayak from dumping over, to keep it straight, to paddle, pretty much to do anything. During the first ten minutes I was afraid that we were not going to get a single mile down the beach. I told him that he’d get used to it and he did, surprisingly well, too. We aimed for the furthest point we could make out but
soon realized that this was torture to the mind so we focused on landmarks that seemed within reach. Having an ultimate goal is important but baby steps are what get you there. Seeing these baby steps being checked gave us confidence that the ultimate goal was possible. “Let’s make it to the palm tree down there!” Check. “Lets make it past this bridge up on the cliff!” Check. “Let’s go to the point right there!” Check. That’s how we kept sane. It was warm but not hot. The water’s surface ranged from perfect glass to slight chop, no more off shore winds. Paddling through kelp forests turned out to be a bad idea and staying beyond the breakers also proofed to be key. We were making okay ground. Kevin had to land every 2-3 miles to stretch his back and I just kept
PBSP // GAVIOTA TO SANTA BARBARA, IN A KAYAK
floating for most of his landings. Then I went in with him and we had a little food and both stretched. The beach was incredibly beautiful, the sun was shining, we were in good spirits. Kevin had gotten pretty used to not having the seat and I was pretty impressed he was still going. I felt like I couldn’t have gone this far without a seat. Two figures came walking down the beach. A young guy with wild blonde curls and a girl the same age. We said hello and they told us that they lived in the house that was sitting atop the cliff we were standing next to. Seemed like they had it figured out. They wished us good luck and wandered off. At this point I was pretty sure that we were just about to reach Refugio Beach. Refugio Beach was the half way point of our adventure and past Refugio there was only El Capitan Beach and then no access to the 101. Past El Capitan it was all or nothing to go home. 8+ miles. Refugio turned out to not be so close and what we anticipated to be just another baby step took over an hour and some mental strength. The surf around the point was bigger than anything else we had encountered so far but we landed in the bay where the waves were tiny. We had paddled for about 9-10 miles and when I got out of the kayak I felt exhausted. I got cold, too and felt like landing was a bad idea. An overall weakness overcame me and my body felt off. We spent about 20 minutes on the beach, ate and drank some and then got back in. I felt dizzy, cold and weak. It scared me a little since very
soon we had to make a decision, go all the way or get picked up at El Capitan. The mile or two to El Capitan was uneventful and we actually made good time. I felt all better and back to normal by the time we reached El Cap. Kevin wanted to go in again to stretch and to check his phone for exact positioning and to make a decision on what to do. I stayed out being afraid that the surf was too high for me to get back out once at the beach. I wanted to go the whole way anyways and wasn’t going to stop now. It was about 2pm and we had almost 4 hours of daylight left. Figuring that it had taken us approximately 5 hours to do a little more than half way, including many landings and a rather casual approach, I was confident we could do it. I started drifting towards the point and the surf started getting me uncomfortable so I corrected my drifting and paddled out and around the point a little. I lost sight of Kevin but figured he’d get the idea and come back out and catch up. I drifted some more, no Kevin. Some more corrections to stay out of the surf, no Kevin. It had been a good 20 minutes and I started to get worried. We did not have any time to waste, it was going to be tight already. I had to keep paddling to stay out of the surf and I felt that he had more energy than me and I should get ahead a little since he would have to wait around for me otherwise. I was far beyond the point and really
worried about where he was when I finally reached him on the phone. He was stuck on the beach and couldn’t get back out since the waves were too big. I told him to figure it out and that I was going to slowly paddle south. I couldn’t help him but also couldn’t sit around since I was on my way and needed to not waste time. 45 minutes after I had last seen him I was paddling at a pretty good pace, freaked out about timing, being by myself pretty far from the beach due to waves and generally just uncomfortable with the situation. The challenge set in right there. The water was choppy, it was getting cooler and later in the day, I was all by myself with a long way to go. While until Refugio it had felt like a fun kayak trip, it now felt like an adventure that was
Completely freaked out he had locked in as well... challenging me physically and mentally. My arms started hurting and the muscles started spasming forcing me to stop paddling for a few seconds here and there. I had no idea what was going on with Kevin. The kayak was bouncing on the choppy surface and I locked into zone mode. For about 45 minutes I was paddling hard, trying to stay just beyond the breakers and to swallow up miles. I had just read the novel “The Life of Pi” and started wondering how scary it would be to drift in a lifeboat on the open ocean. Then at some point I looked back and saw Kevin about a half a mile behind me. The relief was immediate and like a shot of morphine. All tension left me and I relaxed. Amazing how the company of a familiar face (or a familiar black dot on the horizon) relaxes in challenging situations. I kept paddling slowly so not to waste time but to let Kevin catch up. The camera came out again and I took some photos. I felt good. Kevin had been paddling like a mad man. Completely freaked out he had locked in as well and just turned the machine mode on. He ended up having to carry his kayak around the point at El Capitan with the help of some (very nice) woman and finally made it back in the water. From there on he was in a similar spot than me, under mental and physical stress. We were laughing and relieved. With about 3-4 miles to go we weren’t done though. The wind and surf died and the water’s surface once again turned to glass which made paddling so much easier compared to the chop we had endured during our
solo rides. Kelp forests so dense birds would just stand on it slowed us down but it was all good. When we came around the last point at Naples and saw the pier at the Bacara it was like a huge weight had been lifted off our shoulders. Exhausted we paddled towards it. But it didn’t seem to come any closer. The wind had picked up and it was blowing in our faces and slightly off-shore. The surf had gotten bigger again and we were fighting. It was like the steak dangling in front of the dogs mouth. It just seemed like we didn’t make any ground. My arms were close to collapsing, I was so done. The wind got a little stronger and I started to question if I could even paddle to shore at this point. I changed my aim from initially wanting to go around the pier to trying to get as close to the beach as possible and going under the pier. It took all I had left. I was so done I had no idea how I was going to make the last couple hundred feet. When I passed under the pier and finally landed and got out of the kayak I had no idea what to do with myself. My body felt like a spaghetti. No idea if I should sit or stand or lay down or what. Kevin felt the same. We were so exhausted it was hard to laugh about it. My left arm was lame and I couldn’t lift it. This made carrying the kayaks up the beach and to the parking lot where my van was parked torture. It took us almost an hour from when we landed to having the car packed up. Usually one can walk from the beach to the lot in about 5 minutes. A great adventure!
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in conversation with Andi Aurhammer and Jonas Jungblut at the Salton Sea in California during a photoshoot for L1 outerwear / photography by Jonas Jungblut
JJ: Where are you based out of?
but I was just like, couldn’t wait to go outside.
KH: I would say right now I’m just on the Texas coast. You know, just doin…, just trying to live on the boat, be a sailor.
JJ: Is he younger?
JJ: What kind of a boat is it? KH: It’s a 37 foot sailboat. It’s a bluewater boat, it’s a big boat, you know. It can handle. It’s perfect to live aboard for two people. I’m just sailing through Texas and want to go up through Louisiana and all that but right now I’m helping some friends out open a tattoo shop, shit like that, you know.
KH: He’s older. 2 years older. Yeah. He’s kind of a, he was definitely more into indoor stuff and I was out fishing every day, fucking catching every snake and animal I could, you know? Like that sort of kid. But yeah and then from there it was I don’t know... JJ: How old were you when you left home? KH: 16.
JJ: Tell me about your life’s past decisions. The ones that really led you to where you are now. KH: Okay, yeah. I grew up in Montana just like in a super small town out in the middle of nowhere, just always bouncing around as a kid you know? I went to 7 different elementary schools, like 3 junior highs, and ended up at 1 high school, and just never felt planted anywhere. Just kind of always been, I dunno, rambling, you know. JJ: Are your parents together or not? KH: No, no. They split up when I was like 5, you know, like really young. Good you know. Both on their own, but part raised by a single father. That’s been the biggest thing in my life. JJ: When you say Montana was that kind of an urban setting, or what it a very outdoor kinda setting? KH: Oh totally outdoor.
JJ: To go do what? KH: To, well I got kicked out for dealing basically. Like dealing drugs with friends. JJ: Kicked out of your house? KH: Yeah, by my dad, but he was a real good single dad, raised 3 sons on his own and was just trying real hard and it was like I was the fucking youngest but it was ah, I was definitely not uh, I didn’t listen to anything he said you know. So he was like you’re 16, get a fucking job. Gotta do it. Which was cool, to a point, then I had to go do it, and you know, so I was like fucking not doing that good at it. But yeah, it was good but I ended up graduating high school on time to kind of prove that to him. JJ: So was it in the same town still? KH: Uh not in Montana, that’s when we ended up moving to Wyoming.
JJ: Like a farm almost? JJ: Okay. So where did you live for that time? KH: Oh yeah, like 7 miles outside of town, with a river, you know, and not like a river runs through it shit, like in the movies, it’s all farmland, a kind of slow, slow river, but it was like everyday growing up fishing, you know, catching freakin’ snakes, you know, doing everything outdoors as a kid. My brother was a super indoors kid, with video games and shit,
KH: Uh just on couches. People’s fucking basements. I worked at Denny’s. Yeah I was the dishwasher at Denny’s. Like fuckin doing that uh, just fuckin trying to get by, I guess making, I think minimum wage was like 4 bucks you know, doing that.
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JJ: So then graduating high school, I mean, was that a big turning point to go somewhere else. KH: It was, it was like uh, it was mainly to prove to my dad that I could still do it and then I had to go to school my junior year when I got kicked out and I got kicked out both semesters then went to summer school, night school, and did all that shit, and worked and fuckin tried. After I graduated, it was like three days later, I just hit the road with a friend and we went to the Midwest, and hung out and uh, just hung out with chicks, and stayed in the car, and fuckin went to fairs, and swap meets and concerts and wherever and then I uh, ended up going back to Casper, Wyoming, and that’s where we were living when I graduated. JJ: How did you get into tattooing? When you were in school were you into drawing? When was it? How old were you? KH: 35. So 96, 97. JJ: So were you in the 90s skateboard movement? Graffiti? KH: Yeah, punk rock scene. My brother was in kind of a, for being from a small town he was in a pretty big punk rock band. So they would go tour and shit and they came and played in Denver, and I ended up catching a ride with some people to Denver, and they all got tattooed at a shop, so I went and hung out with the shop at sixteen and just saw everything that was going down and was like, that’s what I’m doing but I’m not gonna go get a tattoo gun and fuck a bunch of my friends up, I want to kind of apprenticeship and try to do it you know, right. JJ: Did you draw before that? KH: Yeah. Yup, yup, I started drawing super early.
Thomas Kinkade, Bob Ross. And then even like a lot of Monet. JJ: Have you ever done a tattoo that’s kind of like that? Where it’s like this landscapy realism? KH: Yeah, like it would be in Utah, where there’s a lot of people that want a certain mountain range with, you know, their dog on it, like the sunset or whatever, so I did, I got to incorporate some of that, too, for sure. JJ: So tattooing became your profession? KH: Yeah, well I ended up getting the…, like I said we hit the road, and then I got a random letter, sent to my mom, for a scholarship thing. I don’t know, and then, it was to go back to Casper for that art school like we had talked about that was a full ride scholarship but I went back to that, um, let’s see, moved back to that, and then uh, my dad let me move back in with him, and it was like um, I ended up getting that, and fuckin I wanted to be a tattoo artist, I knew it. And he was mad. JJ: Were you able to start tattooing, in Wyoming? KH: Yeah. JJ: That’s kind of an interesting spot. Was there a scene? KH: It wasn’t cool at all. No, if anything it was like a bunch of garbage biker tattooers. JJ: Tell me, where are you now in life and how did you, first of all, get where you are. What’s your living situation? And how do you maintain doing art?
JJ: What’s the guy’s name?
KH: Okay so I did that, and got an apprenticeship and ended up working in a shop in 99. And then just fucking focused on it man. You know? Gave up everything. Like that was it, you know. I partied for a little bit but then got super serious about trying to travel and keep tabs on everything going on in tattoo, and just got totally consumed by it up until basically 2 years ago, you know, and owned a shop in Utah. Worked in Utah for about 10 years, moved from Vegas to Salt Lake, Salt Lake to Logan, Utah, moved up there, worked for a dude up there. And then we took over the shop, and then owned that shop. And through all that my dad lived on a sailboat, he kind of got an early retirement, so like, out of the 3 brothers, I was the only one that would come down and spend time with them on the boat, ‘cause they have families, you know, they got married, career dudes, and I just was always kinda...
KH: Bob Ross. Totally, totally. So I was doing shit like that.
JJ: So you stick out from them in the family photo?
JJ: How did you get into drawing? KH: Well my grandma was a painter, and made a living, kind of doing a lot of oil painting and shit, so she would have me, … I was water coloring and shit at 6 years old every time I would come and hang out with grandma you know. She was a cool lady. Real, real into art and shit. So I would say through that and I just always wanted to be a painter, you know. Like that’s all that I was into. From in 4th grade to all the way through elementary school and junior high. Doing wildlife like realisms stuff, you know and send it out and doing that.
KH: Yeah, yeah, yeah and my brothers, they’re super, super humorous, super understanding dudes you know, awesome, and they found a different path in life and I’ve always set up, you know, for a freedom sort of life. My dad would always really push like you’re the dreamer, don’t get a credit card, don’t do this, don’t do that, you know, so I never did. JJ: I don’t know if you told me this, or if Andi told me, but you barely have a cell phone, right? You’re very disconnected from what is happening in society right now as far as media, right? KH: Mmhm. Yeah I just got Instagram a couple months ago. And that paid off profoundly, you know.
JJ: So no video games either? KH: No video, I fucking sucked at it. My brother was so good. JJ: And you couldn’t play together really? KH: No it would be like, if I would bitch about it, then he would be like, “Dad, Don won’t let me play!” And he’d be like alright, here. And then uh he’d be like no go talk to that guy. And I’d be like okay. And walk away and you’re dead my turn, you know. Jump in that hole! And get to the next level and like birp, I’m like fuck this, dude I’m going fishing.
JJ: So now let me ask, do you think you might get interested in participating in that sort of media more? Or no?
JJ: We have this society now where everybody is always plugged in to these things and it’s interesting to see somebody that is not really. I’m wondering if you think that this is the right way of doing it or if you started to question it?
KH: No, I’d still just shy away from it. That was the thing, my dad was a computer dude. He started working for a company in the late 70s. In the early computer movement, and always pushed for that, and was like a field service engineer, and just was really tied into the computers all the way up through when he ended up getting his kinda early retirement thing so I just shied way, way away from it. I wanted to do handmade stuff and I never saw…, they were all pushing for like graphic design and all that shit.
KH: Yeah I don’t. I have my heart set on not believing it. I think it’s taking away from where we come from, you know? As much as everybody thinks all that shit connects everybody, I think that it distances everybody because it gives them… I don’t know, there is no pressure to know your neighbor, because you can get on the internet and know someone that’s exactly into what you’re into and you might not ever meet them but it will trick your brain into interaction, you know what I’m saying? Even like TV, like watching TV.
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intact? Without having most of that stuff? JJ: So maybe what’s happening is: Before, you would be a certain personality and have certain trades, but because you had to deal with all these people that had different trades you would become broader. And now, if you have a certain specialty that you like, you’re gonna find people who also have that exact same like-mindedness…
KH: I think so. The more you get out, without that shit, you put yourself in front of people, and it becomes so small and that’s the classic cliché thing, that like the world is small you know, and no one gets out, and explores too much anymore. JJ: Tell me how you got to be involved with Nitro and L1.
KH: And it polarizes everything, and it just separates. How I look at it man, is like, because in everything you have a conscious choice. If you are human to human or interacting in a group to show your best of everything or be very precise about what you want. JJ: Well it’s out of context too, you know. You don’t get the vibe of the person. Plus, I mean given that additionally you don’t even know if that’s really what that person did, they might have just ripped it off somewhere. I guess with this Instagram thing people just take photos that they download from some site, and post them as their own. KH: Or just look at Instagram, and be like, I’m going to bite that. You know, and like, of course I’ve been on the internet and looked at people’s sites and followed and had MySpace years and years ago and that was mainly to connect with people out of country and certain people around the United States. But that ship pittered off so quick for me I would be like a few months and I was like eww, no dude, like I’m gonna go drive and see my homey and you know, and I just kinda never did the Facebook thing, or anything like that so, so it’s like that stuff just seems so false to me. JJ: So would you think that your social life is still perfectly
KH: I was ah, I was tattooing a guy from Alaska, his name is Justin, and he grew up with Jon Kooley, and Jon had went and gotten 1 tattoo, and wasn’t really too incredibly stoked on it, and I started tattooing Justin quite a bit, and that was when I was in Salt Lake, and then right when I was leaving Salt Lake I think like one of the last tattoos I did in Salt Lake… he came in and was like “I want to get this fixed, what could you do?” So I just totally reworked it and you know, did that and it was turning him on to more the like bigger spectrum of stuff you know like heavy coverage or the history of tattooing. So I started tattooing him a bunch, and then through that we built, you know spending all those hours together we built a pretty solid bond, like that. One time I was driving to Wyoming and I was like, dude my truck is running like shit I don’t know, and he straight up gave me his brand new Tacoma, and was like you can take this on your trip, just bring it back safe, you know, and just let me drive it for 2, 3 weeks. And I brought it back and that solidified that shit. JJ: So just to clarify real quick, we are here doing an L1 outerwear shoot. And we just happened to meet because they wanted to photograph my car, so it’s a pretty random meeting.
KH: That’s actually the point though, we didn’t meet on the internet and fuckin do this and be like I’ll meet you here at 6 o’clock and blah blah blah. It’s so funny now because living on the boat and all that I’ll tell people what time you want to meet up? And I’m like let’s meet up at sunset and they’re like, well, what’s that, you know, and I’m like, it’s when the sun fucking goes down, like meet me there. When you see the sun fucking going down start heading that way you know. We lost a connection… JJ: The connection to the outdoors. Everything. It’s like when you go to a place like this, and you spend all day out here, the day seems long and the sunset think about how long the sunset has been going on. It feel’s like forever, right? KH: Yeah, it’s very much that way. JJ: Almost down actually. KH: Wow. But yeah, yeah and then through that and so all these years and I’ve always traveled. It’s not like I just sat in Utah. I ended up going to Mexico and sailing for 3 months with my dad. I had quit working in Logan, and packed everything and put it in a storage unit, and then, was like, cool, I’m going to go on this sailboat trip, when it was supposed to be like a month and a half, with my dad through Mexico. And we got down there and that ain’t even going to be it, so I just got an open ended ticket, out of Florida somewhere and uh, or no, where did I fly, I flew out of somewhere in TX, but we went, and then just did as long as we could I guess. But I left everything in storage at that time, and thought I was like breaking chain, but I took all my shit, and put it in storage. And that was when I first kind of started exploring the breaking out. But I wasn’t ready, you know, consciously, or mentally. It just kept pulling me back in and I was gonna want to open a shop in Wyoming and this and that, and then when I got back I was like, I don’t want to quit traveling, I want to keep doing this, I was just in Mexico. Me and Andi were talking earlier and I was introduced to the most beautiful kindest people and there was a language barrier, they didn’t speak a word of English and I spoke very little Spanish, and I was hanging out with people and their families and they were with their 80 year old grandparents at the beach and they were feeding me beautiful food and partaking in dancing and listening to awesome music, and late nights and having fun but I didn’t need to speak their language because they were just cool, you know? And really giving, so that just kind of started me thinking, well if I can get out and find some sort of truth in that, you know, like what connects people or whatever, anyways. So then I would talk to Jon about all of this and went back to Utah, and started traveling. Constantly, I would work enough to save money to go on a trip, and just like
boom boom boom, like at least every other month, be gone for 2 weeks, traveling, and then uh, and then Jon, asking to come and represent what he’s trying to do with L1. JJ: Explain that. A little bit of what that direction is. KH: Well uh, I think what they’re trying to do is, yeah show free spirits. People, like we were talking, are so polarized. JJ: You don’t get those mix-ups, you have that polarization where you don’t get all this in-between stuff. KH: Because you’re tricking yourself. JJ: Do you get in all that crap on Facebook? It’s just such a question right now, right? KH: It’s either the FB dude, yeah like the best that they have or the worst that they have and people are just looking for a fucking ploy. Pay attention to me for 30 seconds. And then they get this boost. That, oh someone is looking at me! I gotta return and then each time it just hooks them. It’s like, okay, okay gotta get back on there. I gotta get back on there. JJ: People are looking for attention. Facebook gives them the outlet to be somebody that probably they’re not. KH: Or like mine, you know, bitching about their eyeball itching all morning, its like, who cares? I saw that on Facebook, twice! I literally got on one time, because we had one for the shop and I got on and I just saw what was happening on there and was like, oh I know this person and I clicked and I thought, I know that person but I don’t know THAT person. You know what I’m saying? Don’t want anything to do with it. JJ: What inspired L1 about you is your alternative lifestyle, the fact that you haven’t had a bank account for 15 years, for example. How does this work? KH: Yeah, yeah. In barter and help people out, and get helped out. You know what I’m saying? I have guest artists from Scandinavia from Sweden, really good friends of mine that I’ve developed relationships with that come over and will spend a month or two months and just want to chill out, or people from all over the United States. JJ: Get connected more to what’s deeply important to you versus what the common trend is. KH: Yeah, the flavor of the month. And what’s cool, this or that or who’s cool. There’s so much beauty and people are afraid I think to be humbled or be put in their place. Or I don’t
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know, maybe not, maybe that’s casting judgment you know, how people are, and that’s what I’m trying to avoid, and I’m trying to let go of all that shit where it’s like everybody is in their exact perception and how they perceive things you know and perception is everything. Reality is what you make it, all that sort of stuff. As far as you wanna take it, as far as you wanna… I just want to be a ghost in the shadow and see things and experience them I guess, and, and of course, everybody is fucking human, I’m nervous you know, and like that. JJ: Are there any fears about this choice? KH: I don’t think it’s, no, no no. At this point, if I lose…, I don’t have anything necessarily to lose. I know I can handle my shit. I know I can get through any situation, and be in the nastiest situation, and come out just fine, you know. As long as I wake up, I’m fine. With the tattooing I think I was set up perfect for it because I traveled and always bounced around as a kid. I was always the kid that would show up to school, and like, be like, I don’t want to hang out with the fucking cool kids, but I need to fit in somewhere. And if someone talked to me then yeah the next day I would show up with a drawing as good as I could do, with their name on it or anything dude and they were like, woah you can draw! And they would tell their friends, so it’s always been in that rhythm. JJ: Do you feel that living on a boat is something you’re gonna do for a while? Do you have a plan or an idea of where you’re going to go next? KH: You know right now its loose plans but the boat thing I want to, I kicked off in 2012. I wanna do that for like 5 to 7 years but I own that land, and I own some land in Montana that I grew up on. I ended up buying that property from my father before he passed. And I want to keep that as my family’s property. Eventually build something there. But I can’t you know, just go up there and build something. So I think right now with the boat, if I can keep traveling and keep it… that’s the ultimate vessel for it. I want to get down to Central America, that would be awesome dude, just kinda coast hopping down. If I can get over, get over the Yucatan then I think I’m gold. And over there, there’s no storms necessarily. AA: He told me about his scariest life…, his scariest moment in life, was like 18 hours caught in that storm with your dad. On that boat. KH: Yeah, yeah, straight up. At one point, on the GPS it said we were 26 feet above sea level, like on some big fuckin water, trying to get to Varacruz, Mexico, and we’re trying to get to this island, and we’re coming up on this island of Lobos, and
uh got hit by this fuckin storm dude, and we speak very little Spanish, we’re like, reading our things, trying to get storm reports they let us out of the jetties, me and my pops, yeah. And this storm just like comes in and it’s starting to build starting to build, and he’s spooking, and I’m like, we’re 50 miles out dude, that’s like 10 hours to get back to land, you know, and we’re out on a sailboat you’re doing 5 knots and you’re kind of truckin, you’re making ground, and we’re like 50 miles out, and the storm starts building dude, and it’s coming and he’s like, take down the sails we’re, 1st reef, 2nd reef, and then he’s pulling the jib and I’m like, we need some shit to keep us you know pinned against the waves, and he’s, you know, he’d sailed a bit, but I think what he saw comin’ was gonna squall up and pass, you know? No one is really hitting us back on the… They are calling him out on 16, like we can see some shrimp boats, and then they are leaving and it’s like, okay. Building. Anyway it ended up turning into this nasty fuckin storm. And it’s like hitting rocks dude, where literally it was close to 20, it had to be 20 foot, like some waves were 20 foot you know, when you’re on top of the boat, given where the GPS is, and we were up and down, just caught in that shit, and then when the sun started coming up finally… JJ: That was at night? KH: Yeah, all night. Yeah, you’re like a cork in a toilet. You know what I’m saying? Because at that point this little 50 horse diesel motor kind of keeps it pointing in the right direction, and at that point you pulled in sails it’s not like you can go pop them up, you know what I’m saying, and it’s just like okay, like harnessed in, and just sat there, and the waves would come, and then would leave, and then would drop, and then there was a 6 foot gap, where a fucking 8 ton boat would, wop, be hittin’ concrete, and it just jars your guts, jars your bones out of your body. For hours dude, like 18 fucking hours. That was a trip man, and then uh, yeah, I didn’t get back on the boat for almost 2 days. It was frightening. And then another time we got hit by a fuckin barge coming down the ICW, coming under a bridge, and it was really heavy wind. Um, barge coming under a bridge, and we were coming this way, a little sailboat, keeping on the 1, which is traffic, you stay to the right, and they stay to their right. And you just pass each other, because the wind is coming from this way. Well, he cut it too hard, and we dig into the mud, and he’s empty, so he’s coming like this, and uh, coming in, and uh, I’m behind the helm, I’m like gunning it in and bearing it in the mud, and he’s like trying not to hit us and he’s like, I’m gon clip you, I’m gon clip you, we’re like fuck dude he could have ran us over like us stepping on a bug you know. It’s what, like an 80 foot and it’s empty so it’s sitting 30 foot above, 40 foot across, this big metal monster coming right at us, we’re like,
aah! And we had a little lunch anchor hanging off the side of the back right here and it fuckin hit that lunch anchor and as the wind’s blowing it’s slowly leaving us but it’s grinding this lunch anchor down and literally, it’s right here (knock knock) and I’m just like, aaaah! Fucking gutted it dude, fuckin like… just tyring not to look there. Like shard of fuckin metal flying off and I’m like… If we would have been 3 feet back, if it would have grabbed enough of our boat, it would have flipped us over and ran us in the mud, you know, and it was very…, it ended up grinding inches off that anchor, just ate
into it dude, just pheeewwwww as it was going by the whole time. When it was finally trying to ease up and wasn’t eatin us as hard, I stood up, and I literally fell into the fucking fetal position dude and was like Nooo Nooo… JJ: How old were you when this happened? KH: Oh that was like, shit that wasn’t even that long ago, it was maybe 3 years ago? Yeah, 2, no that was our last trip, 2 years ago, yeah that was in, uh, June of 2011.